Big Band Drumming | Recreating Iconic Drum Sounds
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
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The big band era of the 1930s and 1940s laid the foundation for pop and rock music as we know it today. During this period, drummers like Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson became quite popular. Their playing and performance style changed the public perception of the drums. This video is meant to give you an idea of how their drum kits sounded back in the day and how you can recreate that great and full tone today.
00:00 Introduction
01:03 The Kit
03:43 Sing Sing Sing
05:30 24th Day
06:39 Conclusion
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Would you consider doing a video demonstrating The Motown Drum Sound or the James Brown early 60s drum sounds?! I love Old school Jazz drumming but it's a little intimidating to me but thanks for making it fun !
For someone ho never plays swing (or jazz) in his videos, you really played marvelously!
Thanks Matt!
Great tour! The second arrangement brings in more color and expression without losing the swing.
Thanks Robert for your feedback!
My favourite big band tune, bar none.
And the drums, along with those crazy horns and cool clarinet, make it magical.
Cheers
I really dig the second cymbal setup. The K ride is distinct and the broad array of textures allows for expanded expression.
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for a video like this. Wait, actually, I can: like FOREVER.
Your channel deserves to big so much bigger - all of you involved in this channel: keep up the good work, we really appreciate it.
Also, the drummer in this video plays perfectly. I like your style.
My favorite configuration would be 24 - 13 - 16 drums and 14, 18, 8, 22, 20 for big band.
Cheers and stay safe everyone! :)
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it! :)
This is so good! keep making this!
THAT ROGERS SNARE!!!!!! 😍 Fantastic playing as always! The second cymbal setup was my favorite, and for drums 13,16,18,24
Then I have my Mitch Mitchell kit too!
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The playing is always great on this channel, but the playing in the second track here is just wonderful. So relaxed, subtle. And a beautiful sound out of those drums, especially the snare.
Great job guys.
It is sacreligious to play Big Band music with match grip! Haiyaaa!
I do it all the time! I’m a quad player and a jazz drummer. I just hold the sticks match grip naturally
The most majority of big band drummers nowadays actually are using match grip now… this comment isn’t meant to be correcting or degrading but an observation that I myself, a match grip user, also find surprising
Such a great sound, great drumming, great equipment and execution.
Also some background info, and some great fills to steal ;-) Thank you for the inspiration, keep it up!
Limp Bizkit sound, Spin Doctors sound, anything 90s with that hot knife snare.
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I've made a long journey through music, never touched the drums though. I wanna thank you so much for your brief and colorful summaries! I love your work, your knowledge and the will to share it. Got your beats in mind! Take care!
I started at 26 with an electronic kit and advanced from there to an acoustic kit. Played everyday for about 9 months and can hold my own on drums quite well now. Point is, it's never too late. Once you get over the one-two month hump it feels like breathing
Awesome playing and great sounding drum kit. 🤎✨🥁
Informative. Your hard work is appreciated.
This kid is a great drummer & really good @ re-creating the classic sound & incredible swing feel! I had a 1952 Slingerland Krupa signature, wish I never got rid of it. Great vid!
This series is so great. Please makes more!
Thanks so much for your feedback! 🙏 we're constantly releasing new Videos every Tuesday at 9am EST. Since we have already released more than 30 videos there’s a lot for you to discover until next Tuesday 😃.
You play with great feel-nothing like bangin’ some swing with a couple of rows of horns-great video to reminisce with!👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Nice to see videos like this. I play in a eighteen piece swing band. I'm using a 1958 4PC.
slingerland set with remo fiber skins, love that old school sound.
Thanks for sharing your story and your feedback. Of course a slinger land would have also been great to use in the video ;-) .
Amazing channel! I aways wondered how could i sound like this or those drummer....and you show the way!
Thanks for that
Congrats from Brazil 🇧🇷
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That Sonor snare, actually sounded better for this music..
Some drummers were actually using Sonor drums back then.
I think they were mostly Ludwig Brass,
Radio Kings, and Gretsch PJ like Billy
Gladstone
Wonderful! After watching some of your other brilliant modern rock drum covers, I was going to give you a challenge to recreate some older Jazz/Swing/Big Band covers. Luckily I scrolled down through your list and saw that you already created this one 2 years ago, lol. Now I’m truly impressed! So difficult for many modern Rock and Progressive drummers to cross over into the different feel and finesse of Jazz, but you did a good job here. Even the professor, one of my favorite drummers Neil Peart, tried his hand at Jazz for a while. And in my opinion, although he of course could technically play it correctly, he somewhat lacked the swing, subtle relaxed touch, and timing of an experienced Jazz drummer such as Joe Morello, and vice versa. No way Joe could play Tom Sawyer, heh.
Grazie!!!
Ottimo e utilissimo video!!!
Great sound
Mille Grazie 🙏!
I have an original White Slingerland drum kit from 1970 which is the sound you are striving for. Good job.
Wow congrats!
I've actually only taught myself to tune my toms and snare this way, but always end up having to use dampening rings to get a deeper tone since I'm going for a heavier, rock sound.
For me, nothing under a 24” kick for big band. Mainly because many of the drummers were unmic’d back then and needed the “boom” to cut through a bit.
Bigger toms and cymbals rounded out the need.
Great video!!
Awesome sounds!!!
Excellent video, Thank you!
Thanks timothy for your feedback!
Sounds amazing!
Thanks 🙏
This is great! I found you by your Ringo vid and went to exploring your content! Question, can you maybe try to recreate Bonzo's kit?
Thanks! Sure we will add this to our list. In the meantime make also sure to check out ArtOfDrumming.com. If you enjoy the content here you will love this site.
@@ArtOfDrumming thanks so much! Keep up the amazing work.
Love it!!
The shells you used here I never heard of that maker...
Then you bring out my dream snare... The exact kind Rogers Chromatone I started on
Nice video. I love the big band era of music. My favorite configuration is 5.5x14, 9x13, 2 16x16, 14x22, 14" hats, 2 18" crashes, 10" splash, and 20" ride.
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Great as usual.
Very Nice!! I did not know about 'fiber heads'. I use 'Coated Heads'. I'll be on the lookout for fiber heads...
Thanks for your feedback John 🙏
I [icked up a DW Classics Buddy Tribute kit a few years back. Never had a 24 Bass Drum before and fell in love with it. 24 x 14 on my other kit too. For this Genre I like 24-13-16 with a Solid Shell snare. Die cast hoops all the way and if room I use a 2nd Floor although that's not really needed. Great Presentation here by the way
Those drums are beautiful
Yes they are 😊
Nice!!
Fanstastic playing!
Thanks 🙏
the drums sound beautiful knowing how to tune it is very important in determining the sound of the drums
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What is it with Drummers and Cargo-pants? 😂 Great Video!
I'd much rather see cargo pants than man buns.
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To store about 10 drum keys in each pocket.
This channel is awesome
Thanks Gabriel 🙏
Que som essas peles tem!!!
When you say, "Medium High", about what frequency is that for toms/snare?
I love Pascals hair 😂😂😂
I often have big band drum entrances stuck in my head for whatever reason
I was born in the wrong decade. I absolutely love this music!!! Thank you for this video....
I actually like the first set up a lot, despite my actual setup being way closer to the second set
Yo!! Awesome video!! I also loved the Ringo video. P.S. Can you try to recreate Michael Giles’ drum sound from the album “In the Court of the Crimson King” by King Crimson or Jaki Liebenzeit from the band Can?
Thanks and definitely will consider your suggestion
@@ArtOfDrumming No problem, mate! Thanks for considering the suggestions. I appreciate it very much
I know I am annoying, yet Representing the iconic sound of the big band era, but playing matched grip instead of traditional grip triggers me deeply. Anyway, still some great content and noice display of knowledge. I wish you guys the best.
SUPERTOP !!!
2nd kit sounds great
Fiber heads---wish Mel Lewis were around. He would have loved them and may have given up calf skins
I will use this video to better tune my edrums!
Some of Nick Mason pls!!!
Mix video!!
I've heard this introduction song my whole entire life and I have no idea what it is 🤓
Sing sing sing
Anthony King it’s called Sing, Sing, Sing and it’s by Benny Goodman.
No wonder why jazz always have drum solos!
Note: Baby Dods along with a representative from Ludwig/WFL were instrumental in inventing the
“Charleston” cymbals/ hi-hats. This happened during Dods river boat band days. Two 12in cymbals were used on a very primitive stand. It’s said Dods didn’t like the idea, and only used the “Charleston” cymbals for a short time. I’d like to know what information you have on the invention/inventor of the kick drum pedal. Great channel guys! I’m really enjoying the videos you do on trying to match a popular drummers unique sound. 🥁👍🏼
The kind of kick pedal that we all play today was invented by Ludwig in 1909. Some earlier designs exist, but they were unwieldy and not good at playing fast tempos.
@@shiningarmor2838 Yeah no s*** they weren't good at playing at fast tempos because the kind of music playing back then was over 90 beats per minute and any pedal they tried to make back then would break good luck to you and best in all your endeavors
check out "The Century Project" 100 years of drumming by Daniel Glass...drummer for Royal Crown Revue. It's on UA-cam broken into eras of drumming
@@bryanherward4679 Thanks, I've always liked RCR & Daniel's lessons on the history of our favorite instrument is priceless.
What kind of drum key are you using here? I love it!
That‘s the Remo Quicktech drum key.
Love the feel and handling of this one
First time you use it it seems a little big but once you got used to that the handling is very good 👍
@@ArtOfDrumming Thank you so much!
That Sakae Trilogy kit sounds great! Awesome kit. Good playing too.
Weird snare choice for the first song, in comparison with the rest of the kit, but it works very well..
Well done 👍
I wished I could get my 26 to sound like that. All I get is either thud or bong.
are you the guy from house of drums?
Yes, home if drums was a project we did for an exhibition company. Since they didn’t want to continue, we decided to start our own channel. Hope you enjoy our content!
Those sakae........hope they bring them back!
They sounded fantastic indeed
24th day full drum cover?
Hey guys, who knows the title of the song in the beginning?
Can you make a Video of the Rock drumsound?
Hey Philipp,
What kind of rock are you talking about?
We already did one about alternative rock for example:)
1/17/2024 Do you have more videos of you playing, especially big band?
Can you do something about MUSE???
Pretty nice work, now you have a new subscriber 👏
Thanks! And welcome to our channel! :)
I‘m going to add Muse to our future list 👍🏻
I would argue the set up off the Bass drum on the 2nd kit…..
Drummer’s like Ronnie Verrell had a pillow in the bottom on the drum and had it loose tuned, and a hard beater.
This gave more of a smack for when the band needed more poke from the drum sound.
I realise this video is more intended for early big band sound but everyone needs to remember a big band Bass drum needs Some wallop about it.
As a power Drummer i'll go with the second one...
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Thanks
0:15 "Here's how to get that sound typical of this great musical period"
*cuts to intro*
Intro: "Just. Play. Drums."
Can you do the drum sound of John Bonham?
were you rushing or were you dragging
Tasty Good!
Daamn Winter Soldier got some grooves
I think that the best era of drums was beetween 1920's and 1940/50's
Idk bout you but I think the version I listened to had a lower Tom tuning
The drum sound reminds me of Fly Me to the Moon by Frank Sinatra.
Love the video and the drumsounds but for that K ride in the 2nd half. Sounds annoyingly pingy and bright, and I think conflicts with brass and reeds, and possibly could actually annoy them. Larger and slightly heavier 22" ride sure, but this one is awful to my ears.
Thanks for your feedback!
i know its historically correct, but the sound of tiny cymbals is just so goofy to me it always makes me laugh
This Drummer is really fantastic.
AMEN BREAK NEXT!!!!!!!!!!
Yep....there was only one Gene Krupa, one Louie Bellson and of course, only one Buddy Rich.
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Played Bellson with only one kick drum...
Two floor toms would've been perfect
So basically if you want a big band sound just make your kit sound like every rock or metal drummers worst nightmare.
If the bass drum is not 26 X 14 it ain't got that swing
^^^^this. this all day.
Buddy Rich who was the Best Drummer who ever lived made a video about holding the drum sticks, Buddy Rich’s words not mine, “You can not get the Correct sound, Match Grip is good if you’re playing in a marching band But otherwise it’s the WORSE way to play”.
Not really accurate for Vintage kit replication.
Those Fiberskyn heads sound nothing like calfskin. Snares were almost never 6 1/2" back in the 40's. Louis Bellson wasn't around in Gene Krupa's time. The SIng Sing SIng rhythm has a stronger accent on the "2". Accents in general were more with the snare and ride, not the kick.
Pascal has really downgraded his hair style haha
It’s hurts to see a tom in a basket stand. Kills the resonance.
Nope. You want that big band sound , you play SLINGERLAND DRUMS. NOT ANY ELSE.
How high, is “medium high”? 🤔
probably higher as "medium low".......
@@andreasbreitwieser1449 But is it higher or lower than higher medium?
@@SAHBfan in between......
high is where things start to require force to turn the keys, medium high is a half/quarter turn lower