More Polyrhythms - Music Theory Crash Course

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2021
  • There are many different ways to look at polyrhythms in music and today we are looking at a different one, using star shapes. Last time we visualized these rhythms using straight sided polygons but I had a great comment on the last video that suggested using a star shape. So after many hours of making the new animations here are the more common polyrhythms you will find in music visualized using star shapes. This is an exercise in visualizing musician not a method for teaching polyrhythms. I hope you enjoy!
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  • @oenwilson2486
    @oenwilson2486 Рік тому +731

    That 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm could've sounded awesome if you chose notes that harmonized well with it but great video nonetheless

    • @GOATaro_
      @GOATaro_ Рік тому +13

      Agree

    • @vuedanto8576
      @vuedanto8576 Рік тому +33

      It sounds great when it was 1:2:3:4:5

    • @TimothyLowYK
      @TimothyLowYK Рік тому +18

      I think it was meant to be a quartal chord built on perfect fourths

    • @oenwilson2486
      @oenwilson2486 Рік тому +14

      @@TimothyLowYK guess that explains why quartal harmony probably only sounds nice to a certain degree cuz when a lot of the fourths are stacked it doesn't sound as great compaerd to the stack of fifths probably

    • @tomdekler9280
      @tomdekler9280 Рік тому +9

      Maybe if he adjusted the pitch to match the relative frequencies? I know 2:3 makes a perfect fifth if you speed it up enough.

  • @neopessimist7326
    @neopessimist7326 2 роки тому +301

    Its quite interesting how you can hear the rythmn go almost go to unclear noise. Like a toddler that over enthausiastic rings the doorbell.

    • @cl0p38
      @cl0p38 Рік тому +5

      It all started with 7, nobody likes 7

    • @LaurensHouweling
      @LaurensHouweling Рік тому +1

      to be fair it was played really fast

    • @circumplex9552
      @circumplex9552 Рік тому +1

      @@cl0p38 all prime numbers are weird except 2 3 and 5

    • @scrapgrace
      @scrapgrace Рік тому

      Go 2x speed

  • @mmm-tacos
    @mmm-tacos Рік тому +162

    i want to see that 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrythm:
    1. with just the dots
    2. using the harmonic series as the notes

    • @PabloGambaccini
      @PabloGambaccini Рік тому +5

      Was going to say the same, numbers equal harmonic series ❤ it's like a recursive harmonic series in that way.

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@PabloGambaccinitrue yeah actually

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 10 місяців тому +1

      59th like

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 10 місяців тому

      ​@@PabloGambaccini3rd like

    • @Whydoiexisthere-
      @Whydoiexisthere- 6 місяців тому

      I feel like the out-of-harmony notes can make its own unique song for certain scenes in like, a movie. Each polyrhythm adds onto the chaos, until it eventually transitions from music to noise…

  • @netric9084
    @netric9084 Рік тому +188

    I like how the ending sounded like someone playing random keys, laying their whole arm on the keyboard, playing random notes again, and repeating.

  • @gvmrpg
    @gvmrpg 11 місяців тому +21

    I've been playing drums for 16 years and for the first time in my life I managed to REALLY visualize what a 6:7 is actually doing in the background. Seeing it was so much easier than just clapping to the beat. Thank you for this!

  • @Rarok666
    @Rarok666 Рік тому +14

    6:00 The fact you chose the tritone of all things on this exact polyrhythm

  • @seanofpeace
    @seanofpeace Рік тому +248

    I love how the sound of all the combined polyrhythms take a little 'breath' on the beat (at the bottom of the circle).
    Great video! Thank you!

  • @tristanhmusic
    @tristanhmusic 2 роки тому +43

    I think the stars are really effective, visually!

  • @tamarpeer261
    @tamarpeer261 Рік тому +76

    You can also visualize x:y polyrhythms using an y:x billiard table with a ball that starts with 45 degrees. The reason it works is that reflection (the way the ball bounces off the wall) is the same as if your replicated the rectangle across the plane, and looked when the equation x=y hit the walls. It hits a vertical wall every y seconds, and a horizontal wall every x seconds.

    • @circumplex9552
      @circumplex9552 Рік тому +2

      shouldnt the dimensions be 1/y:1/x?

    • @circumplex9552
      @circumplex9552 Рік тому +1

      actually no wait, you explanation makes sense because (1/x)/(1/y) = y/x

  • @coleozaeta6344
    @coleozaeta6344 2 роки тому +8

    The end was everything I wanted.

  • @jaybonn5973
    @jaybonn5973 Рік тому +54

    I think there's a metaphor for the tritone being the most dominant sound in a cacophony of noise.

  • @ferudunatakan
    @ferudunatakan Рік тому +15

    5:2 is the best of di-rhythms. Because more points makes it so strident and fast. Others like 2:3 and 3:4 are simple ratios.

  • @ci.netproductions
    @ci.netproductions Рік тому +5

    8:29… ah yes… SHEAR CHAOS!!!

  • @piacomispl2023
    @piacomispl2023 Рік тому +15

    The more complex the polirythm the more it sounds like a jackpot

  • @komander2365
    @komander2365 Рік тому +80

    7:47 the last visualisation was a bit messed up, becasue there were many different stars hitting at the same spots. It would be super interesting to hear how prime-numbered stars would sound like. Great work tho, keep it up

    • @elskieuwu
      @elskieuwu Рік тому +13

      2:3:5:7:11:13:17

    • @ojd9145
      @ojd9145 Рік тому +2

      :19:23:29:31:37:41:43:47:53

    • @victorvirgili4447
      @victorvirgili4447 Рік тому +1

      “This next song is called ‘A World on Fire’”

  • @viviwu5404
    @viviwu5404 2 роки тому +6

    17 is so ridiculous it’s so hard to see and I love that!

  • @kengyangtan
    @kengyangtan Рік тому +3

    The 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 sounded like an alarm that got more stressful every second

  • @lmilli8124
    @lmilli8124 Рік тому +5

    This reminds me of watching someone else's turn signal swap from in phase to out of phase with my own.

    • @timothysmudski1058
      @timothysmudski1058 3 місяці тому

      Nice, similar concept: watching the footsteps of two people walking abreast. If you're like the rain man you can calculate the ratio of their heights by observing their steps fall in and out of phase

  • @superactinide
    @superactinide Рік тому +9

    love this, but it would be so much cooler if the notes matched the interval ratios of their polyrhythm

  • @lorenzoreesor1228
    @lorenzoreesor1228 2 роки тому +27

    Each number in the sequence is the sum of the two numbers that precede it. So, the sequence goes: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, and so on. The mathematical equation describing it is Xn+2= Xn+1 + Xn

    • @whiteboardDSA
      @whiteboardDSA 2 роки тому

      there is proof that musician actually use left brain more than right you seem to be the proof

    • @rs-tarxvfz
      @rs-tarxvfz 2 роки тому +14

      Uhm, Not sure, that is Fibonacci series. But the polyrhythm goes
      1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 which is not the Fibonacci Ratio

    • @MRX-ji3rh
      @MRX-ji3rh Рік тому

      @@rs-tarxvfz was about to say that

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 Рік тому

      I was like, "is this the right video?"

  • @crep50
    @crep50 Рік тому +3

    Time to make a song based off of the elusive 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm

  • @Mikeinator_
    @Mikeinator_ Рік тому +7

    I love how once the 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm is fully assembled it sounds like a pianist have a seizure while periodically having moments of clarity.

  • @alexandremigueldoromal
    @alexandremigueldoromal Рік тому +3

    13 against 17 sounds the best in my opinion.

  • @echolegend4400
    @echolegend4400 Рік тому +3

    1:2:3:4 sounded really good and then 5 brought chaos with it

    • @tristantheoofer2
      @tristantheoofer2 Рік тому

      even 1:2:3:4:5 doesnt sound bad and tbh that and 7:9 ontop sounds ok i guess. beyond that tho is chaos

  • @user-gh2ys6jb3u
    @user-gh2ys6jb3u Рік тому +3

    The 3 points star is the most unique looking and sounding i've ever seen.

  • @AhmedAldoori
    @AhmedAldoori Рік тому +2

    This is absolutely brilliant, thank you so much for making this!

  • @BananaDude508
    @BananaDude508 Рік тому +2

    the best way to think about polyrhythms is 2 different car blinkers started at the same time, looking like they are in tune but they they leave sync then join again

  • @spacetrucker2196
    @spacetrucker2196 2 роки тому +5

    This is really good, I didn’t understand how to visualize polyrhythms other then playing by ear before this.

  • @duality4y
    @duality4y Рік тому +2

    5:2 is pretty neat sounding

  • @Paruthi.618
    @Paruthi.618 Рік тому +2

    Amazing video..
    very cool video watched today on UA-cam

  • @Polyrhythms
    @Polyrhythms Рік тому +2

    This is very cool!

  • @smun2931
    @smun2931 Рік тому +3

    you can use bezier curve to do better stars and having the point following the curves better

  • @joeboi8216
    @joeboi8216 Рік тому +3

    God dammit, now I want a music maker using polyrhythms!

  • @sirbanjorochambeaux
    @sirbanjorochambeaux Рік тому +2

    i did some learns, but maybe do a more distinct sound like bass vs guitar (i'm not the greatest on the keys, and it was hard to tell them apart without watching). thamk.

  • @lubricustheslippery5028
    @lubricustheslippery5028 Рік тому +4

    If you speed up an rhythm you get a tone. If you speed up a polyrhytm you should get a chord. It would be interesting to se the correspondens between chords and polyrythms.

  • @yoffo_
    @yoffo_ Рік тому +6

    Funny thing is, in the end i could clearly make out the 2:3 rhythm against the noise

  • @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215
    @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215 Рік тому +1

    Ligeti would Looove this big combined one at the end

  • @rickard.eriksson
    @rickard.eriksson Рік тому +2

    2 Years of explaining how polyrhtym works, and i look confused, and ask;" Why? ".
    10 minutes of a YT video, and i go;" ooooooh, that explains a lot. ".

  • @johnellison3030
    @johnellison3030 Рік тому

    Extremely educational video for me in understanding time signatures and changes to them in music. Very well done. Please do more of these.

  • @robbes7rh
    @robbes7rh Рік тому

    I love how you built up to that tour de force polyglot polyrhythm. Chaos that is completely coherent, symetrical, and orderly.

  • @robertpien8708
    @robertpien8708 2 роки тому +3

    I think polyrhythms are amazing so many colorful possibilities at your fingertips. Thanks for helping us expand are creativity.

    • @KororaPenguin
      @KororaPenguin 7 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/vN838j1cAwA/v-deo.html

  • @damiennightmaresx7950
    @damiennightmaresx7950 Рік тому +1

    i love the final design and for what ever reason i thought i heard E before the 17 star got added-

  • @armcannon1998
    @armcannon1998 Рік тому +2

    Tritone interval on the 911 polyrhythm, I see you

  • @Hariztoteles7178
    @Hariztoteles7178 2 роки тому +4

    Cool tutorial. . quite easy to play

  • @ejb7969
    @ejb7969 Рік тому +4

    Consider using the harmonic series for the final omnipolyrhythm!
    But yours sounds great!

  • @skelenize
    @skelenize Рік тому +2

    5:56 yeah im pretty sure it sounded like that

  • @leocrian3194
    @leocrian3194 2 роки тому +1

    Loved it man!!! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @jmegapixel7
    @jmegapixel7 2 роки тому

    Absolutely brilliant video thank you so much. 👏🏻

  • @guiltfilterrecords
    @guiltfilterrecords 11 місяців тому

    Great video, have been struggling to understand polyrthyms, I am self taught musician and this is the best video, thanks so much dude!

  • @fennelcomeaux9663
    @fennelcomeaux9663 Рік тому +1

    that final polyrhythm almost sounded like something from a horror movie

  • @DeathZeroTolerance
    @DeathZeroTolerance 2 роки тому +7

    5:2 has great tension, beautiful! Is this software available? Did you build it with manim? thanks

  • @Rheologist
    @Rheologist Рік тому +1

    I noticed that the (high) frequency ratios of each of the first examples polyrhythm matched ;) nice

  • @clasesdepercusion
    @clasesdepercusion Рік тому +1

    very interesting! thanks

  • @Isaac-1028
    @Isaac-1028 Рік тому +1

    5:56 "9 against 11 sounds like this" *Airplane crash sounds*

  • @willrandship
    @willrandship Рік тому +2

    That last one sounds like a sorting algorithm.

  • @carmengomez8189
    @carmengomez8189 Рік тому

    Thank you for teachimg me the basics

  • @itsdjpenguin
    @itsdjpenguin Рік тому +1

    funny how the 9:11 example has the two notes a tritone apart (which is a rather dissonant interval); wonder if that implies something related to said numbers

  • @jaybonn5973
    @jaybonn5973 Рік тому +1

    The use of the tonic fiths dominants and octaves majors and minors for the different ratios are not lost on me.

  • @eltonwild5648
    @eltonwild5648 2 роки тому +1

    Really interesting. Thanks

  • @6ixty9nine24
    @6ixty9nine24 4 місяці тому

    THAT 3:4 SOUNDS TOO AMAZING

  • @haniel_0652
    @haniel_0652 Рік тому +1

    9:11 sounds like an emergency if you think about that

  • @Green24152
    @Green24152 9 місяців тому

    even with all that noise the 2:3 combo moment shines through like a beacon

  • @Tristanchatoy07
    @Tristanchatoy07 Рік тому +1

    but if you do 1000:2000 for a star, then it will look like a circle with a thick edge.
    and if you use marks for 1000:2000, then it will be 2 lines.

  • @Flat_cones
    @Flat_cones Рік тому +6

    Can you maybe also talk about if there is a difference between 2:3 and 3:2 as an example

    • @phildiop8248
      @phildiop8248 Рік тому

      There no real difference I think. Might be wrong, but I think it's just visually note a smaller number:larger number.

    • @inari.28
      @inari.28 Рік тому +1

      @@phildiop8248 there is a difference actually, the second number in 2:3 and 3:2 is the "main" pulse, so if it's in 2:3 it is a beat of 3 with 2 beats countering it, and vice versa for 3:2

    • @phildiop8248
      @phildiop8248 Рік тому

      @@inari.28 That's interesting. If both pulses act equally or if there's no ''main'' pulse, would it be small:large?

  • @Mr.timboo
    @Mr.timboo 2 роки тому +3

    It’s very interesting that its has 17 parts

  • @maker0824
    @maker0824 6 місяців тому

    6:42 that kid’s going ham on that piano

  • @yahoo5726
    @yahoo5726 Рік тому +1

    Primes against squares are nice.

  • @parsa.mostaghim
    @parsa.mostaghim Рік тому +3

    overlaping stars are much better to show the phase difference between two divisions

  • @lorenzoreesor1228
    @lorenzoreesor1228 2 роки тому +5

    Do poly rythrms of Fibonacci sequence .

  • @paulcastro7507
    @paulcastro7507 Рік тому +4

    I know some polyrythm because I know how they sound and I can imitate, but if I have to make a new polyrithm that I don't know (like 5:7) I would need to do the "maths" and after that remember the rythm and just playing it by memory. Is there any trick to not play the polyrythm by memory and doing the rythm just by heart?

  • @Ducjk711
    @Ducjk711 Рік тому

    This visualization makes a lot of sense now that you can actually over lap them and see which beat plays when

  • @mr.theking2484
    @mr.theking2484 6 місяців тому

    Pneumonic devices for 2:3, 3:4, and 4:5, respectively.
    2:3: Hot cup of tea.
    3:4: Pass the gosh darn butter.
    4:5: I'm looking for a place to stay.
    Say these to yourself while the respective polyrhythms are playing to get it down easier.

  • @pyrokinetikrlz
    @pyrokinetikrlz 2 роки тому +4

    Chopin's Nocturne in B flat minor op9 no1 has a 11:6 polyrhythm in the second measure

  • @joshuakinder
    @joshuakinder 10 місяців тому

    9:06 ngl it was emotional, I was about to cry but the video ended soon later

  • @kristianbruneteau206
    @kristianbruneteau206 Рік тому

    Visually and mathematically beautiful

  • @nileprimewastaken
    @nileprimewastaken Рік тому +1

    at the end, was the volume of the 3:4 polyrhythm boosted? I could still hear it through the noise, even when i was focusing on something else

  • @PUDBG
    @PUDBG 7 місяців тому

    A Decision has happened 8:58
    Last one sounds fire

  • @cooperblankenship7055
    @cooperblankenship7055 Рік тому +1

    5:2 sounds like a horror movie

  • @destroyerrider02
    @destroyerrider02 Рік тому

    Can you use all polyrhythms (i.e. 1:2, 2:3, 3:4, 4:5, 5:6, 6:7, 7:9, 9:11, 11:13, and 13:17) to make a song?
    Reason why I asked this question is that some polyrhythms can be used to make music. For instance, 50s music uses polyrhythms to make the music more upbeat and hip.

  • @ericscheit5540
    @ericscheit5540 6 місяців тому

    Its amazing.

  • @ItzCataIO
    @ItzCataIO Рік тому

    The 1-:>17 looks like all the colours are chasing the white one, it looks so funny.

  • @IMINYOURWALLSHARHARHAR
    @IMINYOURWALLSHARHARHAR 6 місяців тому

    4:5 sounds so good

  • @conjunctionjunction8890
    @conjunctionjunction8890 2 роки тому +1

    That last one was a real toe tapper

  • @mansursher1764
    @mansursher1764 Місяць тому

    4:3 is amazing

  • @SerenityMusic3
    @SerenityMusic3 Рік тому

    Love ❤️ this, where can I get one of those stars 🤩

  • @sarahaprincesa
    @sarahaprincesa 7 місяців тому

    🤩 amazing

  • @xochitlmtzgcia
    @xochitlmtzgcia Рік тому

    3:4 sounds awesome

  • @tydino101
    @tydino101 Рік тому

    5:2 sounds like heaven

  • @CeliaNightstep
    @CeliaNightstep Рік тому +1

    5 to 6 soudns very much like church bells to me. Not sure if church bells sounds different but the ones where i live sounds like it

  • @Linxyorca
    @Linxyorca Місяць тому

    i like to imagine that the last mega polyrythm is what alien music sounds like

  • @atasscomfort6237
    @atasscomfort6237 6 місяців тому +1

    8:52 AAAAAAAAAAAAAA THERE'S 78 BEATS IN THIS!!!

  • @ridgidrumors
    @ridgidrumors Рік тому +2

    Soo when is the app coming out?

  • @Jamiereed9
    @Jamiereed9 5 місяців тому

    Idea:Use number lines and mark the position of each tick when the number is to high use a different scale

  • @kamenriderfaiz5558
    @kamenriderfaiz5558 Рік тому +1

    5:6 sounds like an ambulance

  • @Sora0934
    @Sora0934 Рік тому +3

    7:43

  • @DJUnifishOfficial
    @DJUnifishOfficial Рік тому +1

    ufhauid... this is chaos but cool!

  • @foreverkurome
    @foreverkurome Рік тому +1

    1:2:3 reminds me of the music for minecraft survival mode.

  • @chrisangelpl
    @chrisangelpl Рік тому +1

    after 6:7 i was wait for Still D.R.E xD

  • @frankboul5823
    @frankboul5823 Рік тому +1

    I would pay for an app that trigger sound like that..

  • @The7thLysineinyourDNA
    @The7thLysineinyourDNA Рік тому +1

    I just realized that 6 and 9 overlap with 3 because they're multiples of 3.