I am glad that you posted this video. I bought a pair of ms1000 . They sound awesome. Great price and a lot of value for your hard earned cash. I stream music from UA-cam and they are used for home use. I feel like being in a night club. They sound great at low and high volume. I am not disappointed. I will buy a subwoofer next. This will be my DJ audio set up and it will replace my old broken down high end audio sound system. The bluetooth pairs up quickly and I can be 30 feet away and change sound tracks. It is so easy to set up and tear it down to move.
WOW...Through my $250 Sony Bluetooth headphones, the Harbinger actually has a clearer, higher fidelity sound than the QSC with the CP8 speaker. I am impressed. I heard the MLS900 a couple years ago, and was impressed with it. I saw the MLS1000 at Guitar Center today, and I really like it. I did not listen to it in person though. Now with the 10" Sub, I am digging it. I had no intention of buying new speakers this year, but I might just go and buy a pair of these.
I could not help myself but to buy an affordable Harbinger S12 subwoofer for my MLS1000. It was on sale for $349 at Guitar Center. I was able to price match my MLS1000 and used the $217 credit towards my subwoofer. Wow! It sounds fantastic. I make adjustments to all audio adjustments to avoid clipping the subwoofer. This DJ set up sounds great for the price and value. It is used for home entertainment. I am very happy with the sound reproduction.
The Harbinger struggled a small bit keeping up with the QSC but as long as you aren't maxxing out the speakers I think it'll be good. For 1/3 the price I'll take the Harbinger. Nice video, cool cat lol
Ok let's be real as possible I have a friend that owns that harbinger system we work on bourbon st. When I come through with my 2 qsc k12.2 you can't hear his speakers at all and I run my speakers below 1 so that settles that plus at my local guitar center they have a whole section of these blown harbinger speakers
I will also add to my comment below that I did listen to the Harbinger Vari 4412 today. I currently use Alto TS312s, and love the sound of my Alto set up. However, the Vari 4112 is the first conventional speaker that Harbinger has come out with that are at least as good as my Altos, and probably better on the high end. They seem to get real loud. Harbinger use to have horrible sounding speakers 7+ years ago. They have come along way since then with the quality of their more recent speaker offerings!
Yeah, I have each version from the Vari 2112, 2215, 2312, and I deejay with the 4312’s and QSC KS118. The 2100 and 2200 were good for monitors at small events but they can’t handle ANY KIND of heavy power because they will shut the sound off. The 2300 version changed all that and we have a set at the early church service I play keyboard for on Sunday mornings that sound good. I have pushed the 4312’s at several events deejaying this year and they haven’t disappointed at all. Of course when I put them beside the JBL SRX 815P’s at a larger event they couldn’t compete, but the SRX are in a 4x higher price range. Overall Harbinger has come a very long way to have a set of 12” speakers for $800 that don’t punk out or distort when you push them at an event.
A complete qsc system will outperform the harbinger complete every time. But depending on the gig you don’t have to lug around those heavy ass speakers lol. The pricing is also another factor the qsc setup is more than double the price.
I really appreciate this video. Thanks. Look, the next time you do one, please include some fusion or jazz/rock music, heavy on 80s and 90s electric piana sounds. I'm always in the market and while I love percussion I also need to hear melodic stuff. Thanks again.
You forgot to mention the price wise between the two you can buy 3 harbinger for the qsc price and not all that to haul around to your car load and unloading
I just got the Harbinger mls1000 a few weeks ago only 1 for now when I dj and I will be using it at a 40 person gig Sunday and I can't wait the sub really Kicks for how small it is
Clarity is way better on column array for sure. The QSC sub hits harder. IMO clarity is king. If I had to buy today I would get 2 column arrays and and then I8” qsc sub for when I need the extra sub.
How do you feel about the sound quality between the two? It's hard to tell from a video. Also do you know if tge harbinger has feedback protection like the bose systems? Thank you for your video .
if your gonna get the Harbonger get the MLS1000 ...i just gt the mls900 and it does great on ceremony and cocktail but for reception it wont work for over 80 people ..so it does have to be a small party ...that said im still satisfied with my harbinger purchase because i got a great deal on it and i already used them in 2 weddings so i already made manoney on them .
I play in a Johnny CASH tribute with a Upright Bass.. The MLS has has no problem with distorting and the Upright Bass is a very boomy instrument. We put all the instruments through them the sound is very good.. I have a few PA's and i also have a couple of those K12 QSC subs . I will use those for larger venues
I thought the Harbinger had better dispersion, and kinda makes sense that it would. QSC is known for making good solid equipment, and as far as sound quality I thought the 2 were very close in that regard. So word is Harbinger has been uping their game and I think it shows.
It sounded louder with the Harbinger set. Maybe because of the pole style mids and highs. Bass sounded the same. I like less work carrying stuff. I have the QSC C212 set and it's so heavy at the end of the night.. 🥺.. I just bought the Harbinger S12 compact subs and I like those for most small indoor events.
Haha the cat 🐈⬛ was extremely entertaining 👏 think im going to dodge the Bose l1 pro 8 and get this Harbinger because I listen to him about that guitar center last night and that 10 inch subwoofer 🔊 sounds great.
I bought the L1 used it once and returned it for the pro 16. The sound was excellent and im sure it would beat both of these. i thought about the harbinger but the price was only like 500.00 more so i splurged and went for the Bose. in terms of set up and sound Bose beats them all imo
MLS100 took it ...that said i do own a mls900 and i own those QSC subs that he is using with qsc k12.2 and the qsc system rocks hard . But i am impressed with the MLS1000
In this particular case, the harbinger sounds louder but that could just be the different ways the two speakers act with their volume controls at the same volume levels at higher volumes the QSCs should sound cleaner as I can already hear distortion starting up on the Harbingers even at these low levels.
right, the distortions started to set in. at least someone who recognized it. the qsc sounds cleaner and will also be more efficient with more power. harbinger sounds louder, but the sound pressure of the qsc is clearly at the top. yes bad if not. the price of harbinger compared to qsc is certainly worth considering. recommended for medium-sized events, no question. if you have good ears, you can clearly hear the difference between the two.
Imo the Harbinger is clearer,the QSC is a little muddy in comparison, ive seen other Harbinger products reviewed and I'm impressed but unfortunately these are not sold in the UK in Europe,i think they are Guitar Centers own brand.
😁 🐈 😁. Personally I would prefer the QSC setup, but I would also invest in a system just like the Harbinger setup. The sound test is pointless really as we are not getting a true representation of quality and loudness. But in saying that the Harbinger system is known to be more punchy.
I'm a dj here in Brazil and I would like to know your opinion. A set of 2 QSC CP12 + 1 sub of 1000w is good for an event, such as a wedding for example, with 300 people? I'm a dj in Brazil I love your videos
I've use both brands Harbinger will get the job done and is more cost effective. But Qsc will sound better and have more headroom , Harbinger will distort easier at high volume.
I have never been hired because of how fast my set up and breakdown time is but I have gotten plenty of engagements because of how clean my sound is. The QSC system will destroy that harbinger system all day everyday!!!!!
They both sound good but they sound different… The Harbinger is a little brighter but in a big room the QSC takes the win. Some thing that I forgot to mention in the video is I think the subwoofer in the QSC system overtakes the CP8 top.
It is hard to make a sound comparison when the two speakers are clearly at different volumes and with different EQ settings. The gain knob positions are an absolutely worthless point of comparison. You can only compare using an external SPL meter. The louder speaker will always sound better so you need to remove that variable from your test. I could go on... BTW, I sold speaker testing solutions to the pro-audio industry (among other industries) for many years.
I did use an SPL meter and the QSC was louder… The QSC has more headroom. I think the reason why the Harbinger sounds louder is because it’s crisper than the QSC.
@@NoizTheDj First set both speakers to a flat EQ. Then feed a pink noise source into both speakers. Place an SPL meter (A wtg is fine) equidistant to each speaker about 10 feet in front. Measure the SPL from first speaker. Then measure the 2nd and adjust its input gain knob until the level matches the 1st speaker. Now you can go back and forth with ease. BTW, make sure your mixer is in mono when you play music. If one speaker is playing the left channel and the other the right, you are listening to the differences of the mix, not the speakers.
Eh brah, how'z it? You dakine oh wat? On a gig you get there early and on time, so the difference in time is negligible. The sound quality is more important. To me, the QSC sounds more solid than the cheaper Harbinger. You get what you pay for, most of the time. QSCs are quality product compared to the Harbinger.
This is pure comedy! You’re comparing a 1000W rig with a 10” sub to a 3000W rig with a 12” sub. And you’re saying that the dramatically inferior system is better because it’s quicker to setup. If that’s true, then an even better rig would be a Mackie Thump Go! You don’t need a power cable, it costs half as much as the Harbinger rig, and you could set it closer to the mic and pretend it sounds better! 😀
I am glad that you posted this video. I bought a pair of ms1000 . They sound awesome. Great price and a lot of value for your hard earned cash. I stream music from UA-cam and they are used for home use. I feel like being in a night club. They sound great at low and high volume. I am not disappointed. I will buy a subwoofer next. This will be my DJ audio set up and it will replace my old broken down high end audio sound system. The bluetooth pairs up quickly and I can be 30 feet away and change sound tracks. It is so easy to set up and tear it down to move.
WOW...Through my $250 Sony Bluetooth headphones, the Harbinger actually has a clearer, higher fidelity sound than the QSC with the CP8 speaker. I am impressed. I heard the MLS900 a couple years ago, and was impressed with it. I saw the MLS1000 at Guitar Center today, and I really like it. I did not listen to it in person though. Now with the 10" Sub, I am digging it. I had no intention of buying new speakers this year, but I might just go and buy a pair of these.
I could not help myself but to buy an affordable Harbinger S12 subwoofer for my MLS1000. It was on sale for $349 at Guitar Center. I was able to price match my MLS1000 and used the $217 credit towards my subwoofer. Wow! It sounds fantastic. I make adjustments to all audio adjustments to avoid clipping the subwoofer. This DJ set up sounds great for the price and value. It is used for home entertainment. I am very happy with the sound reproduction.
The Harbinger struggled a small bit keeping up with the QSC but as long as you aren't maxxing out the speakers I think it'll be good. For 1/3 the price I'll take the Harbinger. Nice video, cool cat lol
I think at the end of the day when you add a good amount of people the qsc will sound better and have more headroom.
You are absolutely correct, the QSC does have more headroom.
Ok let's be real as possible I have a friend that owns that harbinger system we work on bourbon st. When I come through with my 2 qsc k12.2 you can't hear his speakers at all and I run my speakers below 1 so that settles that plus at my local guitar center they have a whole section of these blown harbinger speakers
Hello can you set up the MLS 1000 pair with added QSC Sub ?
I will also add to my comment below that I did listen to the Harbinger Vari 4412 today. I currently use Alto TS312s, and love the sound of my Alto set up. However, the Vari 4112 is the first conventional speaker that Harbinger has come out with that are at least as good as my Altos, and probably better on the high end. They seem to get real loud. Harbinger use to have horrible sounding speakers 7+ years ago. They have come along way since then with the quality of their more recent speaker offerings!
Yeah, I have each version from the Vari 2112, 2215, 2312, and I deejay with the 4312’s and QSC KS118. The 2100 and 2200 were good for monitors at small events but they can’t handle ANY KIND of heavy power because they will shut the sound off. The 2300 version changed all that and we have a set at the early church service I play keyboard for on Sunday mornings that sound good. I have pushed the 4312’s at several events deejaying this year and they haven’t disappointed at all. Of course when I put them beside the JBL SRX 815P’s at a larger event they couldn’t compete, but the SRX are in a 4x higher price range. Overall Harbinger has come a very long way to have a set of 12” speakers for $800 that don’t punk out or distort when you push them at an event.
Love the sound of column array speakers
A complete qsc system will outperform the harbinger complete every time. But depending on the gig you don’t have to lug around those heavy ass speakers lol. The pricing is also another factor the qsc setup is more than double the price.
Harbinger is trash they make nothing worth buying just cheap trash!
I really appreciate this video. Thanks. Look, the next time you do one, please include some fusion or jazz/rock music, heavy on 80s and 90s electric piana sounds. I'm always in the market and while I love percussion I also need to hear melodic stuff. Thanks again.
You forgot to mention the price wise between the two you can buy 3 harbinger for the qsc price and not all that to haul around to your car load and unloading
I just got the Harbinger mls1000 a few weeks ago only 1 for now when I dj and I will be using it at a 40 person gig Sunday and I can't wait the sub really Kicks for how small it is
Great review
Clarity is way better on column array for sure. The QSC sub hits harder. IMO clarity is king. If I had to buy today I would get 2 column arrays and and then I8” qsc sub for when I need the extra sub.
DAMN! Harbinger seems to win this battle!!!!
How do you feel about the sound quality between the two? It's hard to tell from a video. Also do you know if tge harbinger has feedback protection like the bose systems? Thank you for your video .
Would a pair of Harbinger MLS1000s work well with an EV 12" powered sub for weddings? I currently run Mackie DRM 212's or 215 mains wood cabinets.
Can you do an outdoor test? Thanks
hows the low end on the harbingers? i'm really interested in a compact setup. would you recommend another sub such as the harbinger s12 or s15?
if your gonna get the Harbonger get the MLS1000 ...i just gt the mls900 and it does great on ceremony and cocktail but for reception it wont work for over 80 people ..so it does have to be a small party ...that said im still satisfied with my harbinger purchase because i got a great deal on it and i already used them in 2 weddings so i already made manoney on them .
I play in a Johnny CASH tribute with a Upright Bass.. The MLS has has no problem with distorting and the Upright Bass is a very boomy instrument. We put all the instruments through them the sound is very good.. I have a few PA's and i also have a couple of those K12 QSC subs . I will use those for larger venues
I thought the Harbinger had better dispersion, and kinda makes sense that it would. QSC is known for making good solid equipment, and as far as sound quality I thought the 2 were very close in that regard. So word is Harbinger has been uping their game and I think it shows.
It sounded louder with the Harbinger set. Maybe because of the pole style mids and highs. Bass sounded the same. I like less work carrying stuff. I have the QSC C212 set and it's so heavy at the end of the night.. 🥺.. I just bought the Harbinger S12 compact subs and I like those for most small indoor events.
Haha the cat 🐈⬛ was extremely entertaining 👏 think im going to dodge the Bose l1 pro 8 and get this Harbinger because I listen to him about that guitar center last night and that 10 inch subwoofer 🔊 sounds great.
I bought the L1 used it once and returned it for the pro 16. The sound was excellent and im sure it would beat both of these. i thought about the harbinger but the price was only like 500.00 more so i splurged and went for the Bose. in terms of set up and sound Bose beats them all imo
The bass hits hard with qsc
MLS100 took it ...that said i do own a mls900 and i own those QSC subs that he is using with qsc k12.2 and the qsc system rocks hard . But i am impressed with the MLS1000
In this particular case, the harbinger sounds louder but that could just be the different ways the two speakers act with their volume controls at the same volume levels at higher volumes the QSCs should sound cleaner as I can already hear distortion starting up on the Harbingers even at these low levels.
right, the distortions started to set in. at least someone who recognized it. the qsc sounds cleaner and will also be more efficient with more power. harbinger sounds louder, but the sound pressure of the qsc is clearly at the top. yes bad if not. the price of harbinger compared to qsc is certainly worth considering. recommended for medium-sized events, no question. if you have good ears, you can clearly hear the difference between the two.
Two 1000s and the qsc sub would sound clean, I would lower the bass on 1000s for no clip.
How do you set up a d j controller to a pair of the mls 1000s
Imo the Harbinger is clearer,the QSC is a little muddy in comparison, ive seen other Harbinger products reviewed and I'm impressed but unfortunately these are not sold in the UK in Europe,i think they are Guitar Centers own brand.
Good Job 👍🏻😎
Can we play Roland HPD 20 handsonic on JBL PRX ONe line column array PA system?
Harbinger was definitely cleaner and louder. A little less low end punch, but I give the Harbinger the win 🥇on that sound test.
😁 🐈 😁. Personally I would prefer the QSC setup, but I would also invest in a system just like the Harbinger setup. The sound test is pointless really as we are not getting a true representation of quality and loudness. But in saying that the Harbinger system is known to be more punchy.
QSC has a bit more bass but sounds hollow....at least on this track....Harbinger sounds fuller
Anyone knows whats the best budget bass 12'' speakers for small bar or party without use of subwoofer?
I'm a dj here in Brazil and I would like to know your opinion. A set of 2 QSC CP12 + 1 sub of 1000w is good for an event, such as a wedding for example, with 300 people?
I'm a dj in Brazil I love your videos
Get 2 qsc Cp8's and 1 Bose Sub2.
Best 3000 watt micro system for right around $2000.
@@DJBpartyTV thanks for the tip
only problem is the Harbinger is now worth like 40% of what you paid for it, i kid you not. Also it would be a lot easier to sell the QSC
Harbinger sounded really good mids amd highs. But qsc had a Lil stronger bass
I've use both brands Harbinger will get the job done and is more cost effective.
But Qsc will sound better and have more headroom , Harbinger will distort easier at high volume.
I have never been hired because of how fast my set up and breakdown time is but I have gotten plenty of engagements because of how clean my sound is. The QSC system will destroy that harbinger system all day everyday!!!!!
Great review but its no comparison to a better speakers QSC and sound to a harbinger.
The cat lol
I love this review. And I’m glad I’m the only one obsessed with systems
Which one sound better?
Qsc
They both sound good but they sound different… The Harbinger is a little brighter but in a big room the QSC takes the win. Some thing that I forgot to mention in the video is I think the subwoofer in the QSC system overtakes the CP8 top.
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I can't help but imagine kids throwing food and garbage into the ports on that QSC sub...
The Harbinger is just loud, but no feeling, It's a toy compared to the QSC. The QSC is fuller a sound.
It is hard to make a sound comparison when the two speakers are clearly at different volumes and with different EQ settings. The gain knob positions are an absolutely worthless point of comparison. You can only compare using an external SPL meter. The louder speaker will always sound better so you need to remove that variable from your test. I could go on... BTW, I sold speaker testing solutions to the pro-audio industry (among other industries) for many years.
I did use an SPL meter and the QSC was louder… The QSC has more headroom. I think the reason why the Harbinger sounds louder is because it’s crisper than the QSC.
How would you set the speakers at the same volume?
@@NoizTheDj First set both speakers to a flat EQ. Then feed a pink noise source into both speakers. Place an SPL meter (A wtg is fine) equidistant to each speaker about 10 feet in front. Measure the SPL from first speaker. Then measure the 2nd and adjust its input gain knob until the level matches the 1st speaker. Now you can go back and forth with ease. BTW, make sure your mixer is in mono when you play music. If one speaker is playing the left channel and the other the right, you are listening to the differences of the mix, not the speakers.
If you're doing something that small just do a 15 inch.. or two no sub
That looks kinda like a big cactus from Arizona.
Sorry but the harbinger is a toy where as the qsc is a serious piece of gear.
Please do not compare a toy with qsc.
PERO QUE ABISMAL DIFERENCIA DE TIEMPO ENTRE UNO Y OTRO EN DESMONTARLO, CASI 1 HORA DE DIFERENCIA. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Sorry QSC win 🥇♥️
If the sound left and right was stereo balanced and not mono.....the test was completly wrong. If it was mono ...then QSC sucks.
Eh brah, how'z it? You dakine oh wat? On a gig you get there early and on time, so the difference in time is negligible. The sound quality is more important. To me, the QSC sounds more solid than the cheaper Harbinger. You get what you pay for, most of the time. QSCs are quality product compared to the Harbinger.
QSC sounds better to me Deeper Bass
This is pure comedy! You’re comparing a 1000W rig with a 10” sub to a 3000W rig with a 12” sub. And you’re saying that the dramatically inferior system is better because it’s quicker to setup. If that’s true, then an even better rig would be a Mackie Thump Go! You don’t need a power cable, it costs half as much as the Harbinger rig, and you could set it closer to the mic and pretend it sounds better! 😀
Sounds like tin box....ugh
👎🏼qsc
Cp is not a real qsc
Great comparison. Thanks. I was impressed with the Harbinger. I agree with @j-new6278.... For 1/3 the cost Harbinger clearly won.
Har a lot clearer, bass weaker but clean. The other one whooofs too much, sounds like distortion. I'll go with Har.