The FASTEST SSD Technology Explained - M.2, U.2, and MORE

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  • M.2? AHCI? NVMe? With the knowledge in this video, you should be able to comfortably pimp out your storage setup to the next big thing.
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  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta 7 років тому +772

    That M.2 slot that leaves the drive just sticking up feels super sketchy.

    • @Svenz0r
      @Svenz0r 7 років тому +26

      If you look there are screw holes either side that iirc are for mounting a support for the drive.

    • @RousedPotato
      @RousedPotato 7 років тому +9

      It probably comes with (or you can get) a bracket for it.

    • @TheDaidai05
      @TheDaidai05 7 років тому +8

      was thinking the same thing. It looks ugly to me compared to the ones that lay down too

    • @Tatsumaru2005
      @Tatsumaru2005 7 років тому +4

      it has 1 tiny screw that holds it down at the end away from the connector. the drive is so lightweight it doesn't need any more than that

    • @aliancemd
      @aliancemd 7 років тому +3

      I would like mine to be like that because NVMe gets very hot and it would help to cool it down.

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 7 років тому +1033

    *Reads title
    Oh cool, a new TechQuickie video! Wait a minute
    "Uploaded by LinusTechTips"
    Huh.

    • @Lucifer3230
      @Lucifer3230 7 років тому +11

      Same thought came in My mind.

    • @kylenetherwood8734
      @kylenetherwood8734 7 років тому +4

      LazerLord10 That's why I miss AFAP

    • @Ph4tT0ny
      @Ph4tT0ny 7 років тому

      Same

    • @YK-xw4nj
      @YK-xw4nj 7 років тому +2

      That's what I exactly thought my friend.

    • @jesselioce
      @jesselioce 7 років тому +6

      too much info to put in a techquickie video of 4 min

  • @MiniArts159
    @MiniArts159 3 роки тому +126

    2015 Linus: SATA EXPRESS IS THE FUTURE
    2017: Lmao that shiz dead

  • @xxxdroidmonkeyxxx
    @xxxdroidmonkeyxxx 7 років тому +1874

    A better explanation for this would be:
    - AHCI and NVME are like the middleman between your hardware and software. AHCI is a slow middleman (protocols) and NVME is a fast one.
    - Since they're just middlemen, they can work off of any connection, whether it's M.2, PCIE, or SATA (specifically in AHCI devices)
    - Some motherboards support both protocols, while others only support one of them for boot drives. If yours only supports AHCI for boot drives, no matter what you connect your NVME drive (PCIE or M.2 slot) it won't let you boot from it.
    - New motherboards support both protocols so you can connect the NVME drive anyway you want and it'll work at full speed and let you boot from it. So whether you get a PCIE M.2 device or an onboard one, you'll be fine.
    To sum it up. PCIE, M.2 and SATA are all just data highways.
    AHCI and NVME are the things that dictate how fast your "car" will be able to travel in any of those given highways if the country (the motherboard) allows that speed limit.
    I hope that helps better explain it to anyone who's confused.

    • @phaolo6
      @phaolo6 7 років тому +61

      The best explanation : )

    • @SixplusonemediaAu
      @SixplusonemediaAu 7 років тому +22

      great explanation!

    • @morells09
      @morells09 7 років тому +16

      Superb explanation, thank you!

    • @max03tube
      @max03tube 7 років тому +3

      Meow Thanks

    • @thiagofelipedeoliveira6979
      @thiagofelipedeoliveira6979 7 років тому +4

      Still, i have a doubt (Maybe a stupid doubt)
      AHCI, is for SATA HDD's? In this case, i've understand that NVME is the protocol for the SSD chips that Linus showed in the video, but AHCI i didn't get it as many people have understanded.

  • @EpicLPer
    @EpicLPer 7 років тому +719

    I'm currently building a PC and now I'm even more confused...

    • @coopercummings8370
      @coopercummings8370 7 років тому +67

      You will probably be fine with a sata ssd, nvme ssds can be much faster but the difference isn't nearly as noticable in most applications as the difference between a hdd and sata ssd. Nvme ssds are also much more expensive per gb than sata ssds of the same capacity, so most consumers that don't need the extra speed are better off sticking to sata until the price drops.

    • @EpicLPer
      @EpicLPer 7 років тому +2

      Cooper Cummings Yeah, oh well... SATA SSDs are fast enough for me tbh but the next thing would also be the PCI lane speeds and such. Like, if I attach an "unsupported" or slower PCI device to a lane it'll drag down all others from what I understand. So what's the best place to put one then? And where for the GPU? I am so freaking confused even tho I'm an IT technician myself and should know it...

    • @coopercummings8370
      @coopercummings8370 7 років тому +7

      most z170 and z270 boards suppord ahci (sata protocol at sata speeds) and nvme (new protocol at pci express speeds) on their m.2 slots, and you just have to switch the mode in the bios, but for the best place to put them I haven't done too much looking at them because of their expense, but I have seen a few places find they will run cooler directly underneath an open air style gpu (because even though it is hot air being blown onto it it is some airflow over the device, but others say to put it as far from the gpu as possible to avoid the heat source. Every source I have seen says not to use a behind the motherboard m.2 slot if there is one on the front because there is better airflow, but the drives dont actually run over their temperature ratings without airflow, so it doesn't make much of a difference unless you put it next to a heat source with no airflow.

    • @mytten
      @mytten 7 років тому +3

      If you only game, just go for a sata ssd ;)

    • @WhiteoutTech
      @WhiteoutTech 7 років тому +10

      EpicLPer just put your gpu in your first pcie 16 slot, connect your sata drives to your sata connectors and if you really want to have 3000mb/s write speeds put your m.2 ssd in your m.2 motherboard slot. the video just makes it seem difficult. :P unless you use a motherboard from 2010 you can't really do anything wrong nowadays.

  • @The_RoboDoc
    @The_RoboDoc 7 років тому +358

    The fastest SSD is as fast as linus in bed

    • @Tailslol
      @Tailslol 7 років тому +14

      he is neutered no?

    • @linusmlgtips2123
      @linusmlgtips2123 7 років тому +9

      Tailslol someone didn't watch WAN show

    • @Red9419
      @Red9419 7 років тому +24

      He still has those man juices.

    • @Tailslol
      @Tailslol 7 років тому +1

      i didn't used the right word because i m not a native English speaker,but you got the idea... but putting no with an interogation point at the end of a phrase is a key point here too...
      and yea wan shows are too long ...

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 7 років тому +9

      he still has the balls, no worries about that.
      apparently the specific operation he did is also possible to be reset, as in, he can go back to how he was before if i understood correctly.
      still, are we really going to keep talking about linus balls for weeks?

  • @JonIceInternational
    @JonIceInternational 7 років тому +887

    I like this kind of videos. I don't understand anything, but I like it.

    • @DihelsonMendonca
      @DihelsonMendonca 5 років тому +27

      Although I work with computers for some 30 years, there´s so much new technology arriving, that is impossible to know everything.

    • @elissitdesign
      @elissitdesign 5 років тому +8

      I don't like to read comments but I read yours anyway.

    • @keifuchan7265
      @keifuchan7265 5 років тому +10

      These videos make me realize just how dumb I am....but I also don't even know just how dumb I am...make sense?

    • @ReyomHD
      @ReyomHD 5 років тому +6

      @@keifuchan7265 Well hey, the more you watch the more you learn. So in a way, you are a little smarter at the end of each video.

    • @robmanabat8293
      @robmanabat8293 4 роки тому

      Me too

  • @erikcastro3431
    @erikcastro3431 5 років тому +11

    Much props Linus. Your explanation saved me from buying a slower M.2 SATA, and instead buying a much faster M.2 NVMe instead.

  • @Onibaka
    @Onibaka 7 років тому +2392

    I am more confused now...

    • @tbonenom3736
      @tbonenom3736 7 років тому +76

      I thought i knew basic PC tech, i got like 20% of all that in the video... Apparently i'm getting old. :(

    • @kenkalajdzic
      @kenkalajdzic 7 років тому +12

      Aaron Luedemann There are already some NVMe drives on the market that aren't too expensive. Samsung 960 EVO for example has great performance and OK price. Upcoming (mid-february IIRC) WD Black SSD will be even cheaper - 200$ for 500GB.

    • @joshisnot11
      @joshisnot11 7 років тому +4

      I'll just stick with the 1TB 850 evo for a while. Thing is still around 300.

    • @nermanus
      @nermanus 7 років тому +11

      I thought the same until I realized stuff in this video concerns maybe the 10% of tech literate people from the 1st World that have the extra cash for these types of hobbies. Most people will just go with a 1 to 2 TB HDD for storage and the cheapest 120 GB ADATA or Kingston SSD for OS.

    • @sandylie1655
      @sandylie1655 7 років тому +2

      i'm definitely not one of them since i will install os and games on them, and game is huge 20-60gb....

  • @god2172
    @god2172 7 років тому +131

    Who else is pooping while watching this?

    • @jonnathan780
      @jonnathan780 7 років тому

      OBX Sand Devil holy shit deadass how did you know

    • @loryferli
      @loryferli 7 років тому

      OBX Sand Devil me

    • @joseruiz6626
      @joseruiz6626 7 років тому

      just about 2 wipe...creepy

    • @kakashi99908
      @kakashi99908 7 років тому

      any girls pooping or just guys?

    • @OMGYasuke
      @OMGYasuke 7 років тому +2

      Duck Girls don't poop lul

  • @moodymann_nl1526
    @moodymann_nl1526 5 років тому +50

    I always get depressed because I don’t understand shit after a few minutes... and then thinking I’m doing everything wrong

  • @le4848
    @le4848 6 років тому +1

    Thanks Linus! You answered all the questions I had regarding m.2

  • @eligrey
    @eligrey 7 років тому +127

    You seem to have SATA and AHCI mixed up. SATA is a physical data transfer interface and AHCI is a storage protocol that can run over PCIe or SATA. There is no such thing as an AHCI-only M.2 slot, only PCIe or SATA.
    There are PCIe AHCI M.2 SSDs that will blow normal SATA drives out of the water, like the SM951.

    • @Uraveragegamer172
      @Uraveragegamer172 7 років тому

      Eli Grey I have an sm951, how does that stack up to other drives?

    • @_clemens_
      @_clemens_ 7 років тому +7

      Your are totally right...they should fact check their videos better...the Ethernet video some while ago was also crap...

    • @kwarkon1
      @kwarkon1 7 років тому +8

      Yes, but to be exact, m.2 PCIe AHCI drive can connect only through PCIe lines directly CPU (it has its own AHCI controller) while m.2 SATA needs AHCI or SATA controller in between (usually build in PCH or on SATA -> PCIE adapters ). PCIe AHCI are not limited by SATA limitations so they can run much faster than SATA drives. NVME is a redesigned protocol that has lower latencies than ACHI.
      Please go to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2 and especially this diagram: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#/media/File:SATA_Express_interface.svg
      The adapter shown two slots has the lower slot for m.2 PCIE ( so both AHCI and NVME) and the upper slot is for M.2 SATA drives ( thats why there is a sata connector for SATA cable that you have to connect to have it working).
      The drive MZ-N5E250BW shown is a SATA drive.
      the difference between m.2 SATA and m.2 AHCI is expecially important in older laptops where often you have m.2 SATA support but not m.2 PCIe ( both AHCI and NVME).

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 7 років тому

      Now that makes more sense as well... The Kingston HyperX Predator is also an example of this, right???

    • @_clemens_
      @_clemens_ 7 років тому

      Yes but that's an PCIe 2.0 x4 drive

  • @hole1stdrillpresschannel
    @hole1stdrillpresschannel 7 років тому +89

    Time to learn something. Thank you!

    • @cyancoyote7366
      @cyancoyote7366 7 років тому +6

      I'm subscribed to you, but fucking hell, you're everywhere. Great channel tho :D

    • @hole1stdrillpresschannel
      @hole1stdrillpresschannel 7 років тому +2

      Thank you coyote! But I'm not everywhere, just at good channels! :-)

  • @EveryLittleThings
    @EveryLittleThings 7 років тому +2

    Thank you Linus! You saved me so much time reading about them. And you consolidate all the into in one video! Kudos! Keep it up!

  • @saadsiddiqui9881
    @saadsiddiqui9881 7 років тому

    Oh my god why your every video sounds so good and it always has so much meaning , like every time there is new and amazing things to know about i love your videos

  • @elijah_9392
    @elijah_9392 7 років тому +160

    The reason this isn't a techquicky video is because it's 8 minutes long.

    • @christiandeuctor3606
      @christiandeuctor3606 7 років тому +30

      And the fact that it's uploaded on LinusTechTips.

    • @Thinker145
      @Thinker145 7 років тому +3

      The actual video minus the ads is just 7 minutes though kinda like all the LTT videos these days.

    • @bluefoxtv1566
      @bluefoxtv1566 7 років тому +1

      Remove the ad's and the dicking around and it would fit with in that window.

    • @TheZaman_
      @TheZaman_ 7 років тому +1

      well you guys use adblocker.. instead only depend on google ads that you block they make ads in the videos.

    • @davidoke3909
      @davidoke3909 6 років тому

      Elijah _ no, its a guide, that's why

  • @MrabEzreb
    @MrabEzreb 7 років тому +68

    holy crap 522 views in less than a minute

    • @eduardonazario
      @eduardonazario 7 років тому

      Mrab Ezreb i got 101 views here

    • @MrabEzreb
      @MrabEzreb 7 років тому

      you got here earlier than me

    • @rocketlaunch99
      @rocketlaunch99 7 років тому

      Mrab Ezreb Most people have no life. Just like me.

    • @slickm7
      @slickm7 7 років тому

      2278 in about 3

    • @wizzo2280
      @wizzo2280 7 років тому

      I seen 5k views in a minute before.

  • @Ausskip87
    @Ausskip87 7 років тому

    dude your videos are great , I'm not much of a tech head but I get what you're you on about, you explain things well.. cheers

  • @gaiustrollius9920
    @gaiustrollius9920 7 років тому +325

    I'll just sit here with my single 1 tb hdd.

    • @Joe-xb8bf
      @Joe-xb8bf 7 років тому +7

      Gaius Trollius lucky, 480GB. its slow too, its like 4 or 5 years old.

    • @gaiustrollius9920
      @gaiustrollius9920 7 років тому +1

      Maybe a format will help.

    • @Fosi94
      @Fosi94 7 років тому +5

      +Joe check your sectors, do a defeag, fresh install os?

    • @Joe-xb8bf
      @Joe-xb8bf 7 років тому

      Fosi94 its just the age

    • @bringitlp5177
      @bringitlp5177 7 років тому +3

      yeah got only 250gig ssd for games like bf1 fallout etc which got long load times other hit is on hdd and fuck off ppl who say mimimi long wait times ...meanwhile u can ....roll a joint,smoke some other shit,take a shit etc xD

  • @joelmathew616
    @joelmathew616 5 років тому +7

    You're the only youtuber that I know of who explains complex tech terms and gets into tiny details
    This is my go to channel for gathering information or to increase my understanding about the various new tech and terms

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 4 роки тому

      Nah mate. Check out Explaining Computers. He does a much better job.

  • @benjaminoechsli1941
    @benjaminoechsli1941 4 роки тому +3

    We need more videos like this. Videos explaining just what a term(s) means, and what it means for the end user.

  • @JasonOFlaherty
    @JasonOFlaherty 7 років тому

    Thank you for spelling it out in step by step plain English with visuals. It helps keep it all in order.

  • @SuperHolyWater_
    @SuperHolyWater_ 5 років тому

    thank you so much man. you answered all my questions and more. im looking into upgrading the drive inside my kids inspirion 3050 and had no clue where to start on what type to get. this cleared it all up for me. i knew i subscribed to you for a reason!

  • @solomonshv
    @solomonshv 6 років тому +435

    I really don't like U.2, their last few albums have been dreadful.

    • @lakechocolate9785
      @lakechocolate9785 5 років тому +3

      Lol 🤣

    • @shawncruz732
      @shawncruz732 5 років тому +25

      Well U2 doesnt like u 2.

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 5 років тому +1

      last few, like since Rattle and Hum! They've been blagging it ever since...

    • @SkankHunt-rv8qo
      @SkankHunt-rv8qo 4 роки тому +3

      I dont like how they forced themselves into my Apple music library

    • @GJBedrin
      @GJBedrin 4 роки тому

      Has anyone ever actually liked them?

  • @jdtechgear
    @jdtechgear 7 років тому +309

    Did anyone else see the little bug @1:06?

  • @007vsMagua
    @007vsMagua 7 років тому

    I'm glad your covering this new storage format. Can't wait to hear more.

  • @jordansean18
    @jordansean18 7 років тому

    perfect timing!
    I only have a 2242 m.2 available for my laptop, so I'm deciding between using it or just keeping an external for supplemental use

  • @blodstainer
    @blodstainer 7 років тому +3

    Good to note: Pretty much *EVERY* ATX Z97, Z170 and Z270 Motherboard got M.2 slots. And I think you can even BIOS update a Z87 to support NVMe. Not sure about Z77 though

  • @laurensi1
    @laurensi1 7 років тому +17

    "I'm already confused": Yup

  • @llamasplosion684
    @llamasplosion684 7 років тому

    iv been watching your videos over the past 2 years and i finally built my first pc the other day and these videos really helped me out thanks

  • @Kroeg
    @Kroeg 7 років тому

    Love these information rich videos. You guys are ever improving on yourself!

  • @nbrikha
    @nbrikha 7 років тому +19

    I was hoping for a performance review. I want a performance review. Why has it taken this long to compare the four or five M.2 sticks out there right now? Intel 600p, Samsung 960 Pro and Evo, Corsair MP500, and the OCZ RD400. Just like, a quick video on which is best value and best performance.

    • @nbrikha
      @nbrikha 7 років тому +4

      There's also a value M.2 NVMe ssd on amazon that has amazing review but I've never of the company before. MyDigitalSSD BPX

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 7 років тому +3

      Agreed! Dont forget about the Plextor drives though!
      I would also like to add in comparing the AHCI M.2 drives like the Kingston Predator, Samsung SM951, Adata XPG SX8000 (is that one nvme?) as well!

  • @mtstechgamingtherapy5850
    @mtstechgamingtherapy5850 7 років тому +6

    why you don't do more in depth video about M.2 and U.2

  • @firstnamelastname-xt5kn
    @firstnamelastname-xt5kn 4 роки тому

    This video is concise, clear, and brief. Subscribed

  • @MadMaxBLD
    @MadMaxBLD 7 років тому

    Very good and clear explanation of this confusing topic, well done!

  • @TheUnclejulian
    @TheUnclejulian 7 років тому +4

    Hey Linus, thanks for the informative video. Perhaps you could do a custom build video where you discuss the reasoning on how to get the most bang for your buck? Which drive you chose and why, etc.

  • @Ampera_
    @Ampera_ 7 років тому +9

    Hey linus, the inability to boot from PCI-E storage isn't a problem almost whatsoever. Bootloaders can be used on a small hard drive, even a cheapie 80GB one, and then that can hand the deal off to the SSD. While this isn't that elegant, this is what I use to dualboot Windows Server 2016 and Windows 7.

    • @joem3082
      @joem3082 7 років тому

      Bah guess i was beaten to the punch.

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 7 років тому

      but why get an M.2 if you're not going to use it for booting? Seems pointless to me as the larger storage size drives are WAYYYY too expensive.

    • @Ampera_
      @Ampera_ 7 років тому

      Itsneight If you actually read what I said, you would know how stupid that was.

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 7 років тому

      I assumed since you said 80GB that you were referring to a 2.5"ssd or AHCI M.2 since 80gb M.2 nvme drives dont exist.

    • @Ampera_
      @Ampera_ 7 років тому +3

      No, I was saying if you put a bootloader on some random ass hard drive, I gave 80GB as an example, you can boot off of that, but store the OS on an SSD. That way when the PC boots, it hands you off to the bootloader, which then hands you off to your OS.
      My config is a 300GB HDD with a Server 2016 install disc image on it, and the disc image's bootloader allows me to boot into Windows 7 and Server 2016 because Windows 7's bootloader refuses to load Server 2016, and Sever 2016 doesn't want to boot into Windows 7.
      The same thing can be done with PCI-E storage that can't boot. Load GRUB on a small hard drive, configure it to load your OS off the SSD, and you're good.

  • @ArmandAlberts87
    @ArmandAlberts87 7 років тому +1

    Dude, i gotta say, i like your channel!. Keep it up man!

  • @mylifestartsat8k
    @mylifestartsat8k 7 років тому +1

    I had to watch this a couple of times, it'll eventually lock in :o !!

  • @mellifont96
    @mellifont96 4 роки тому +28

    2019...just bought one to use as a stream library...

    • @solidanlive6313
      @solidanlive6313 4 роки тому

      Yup....

    • @sean8102
      @sean8102 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, it's fantastic how much pricing has come down on NVME and solid state storage in general. Got a 1 TB NVME PCI E drive for ~$120 bucks recently. And thank god DRAM prices are finally getting back to sane pricing.

    • @provet1
      @provet1 4 роки тому

      Or steam library

    • @wrifraff
      @wrifraff 4 роки тому

      @bittercottoncandy Micro Center has a Crucial 1TB NVMe drive for $109 right now 4/20/20.

    • @wrifraff
      @wrifraff 4 роки тому

      @bittercottoncandy www.microcenter.com/product/513534/crucial-p1-1tb-ssd-3d-qlc-nand-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-30-x4-internal-solid-state-drive

  • @SolomonCornish
    @SolomonCornish 7 років тому +9

    whats the point of picking up an M.2 drive and using a converter to plug it into a PCI-e port? Wouldn't it make sense to just pick up a pci-e based NVM-e drive instead, versus haggling with a converter and 1-2 separate drives?

    • @MattSena1
      @MattSena1 6 років тому +1

      At 5:53 he says "go through the same steps as our previous board that supported it natively". I have a feeling they had a longer video that included them installing a drive on a motherboard with an m.2 slot and that clip got cut, but they didn't bother updating the script.

    • @yaeshraj
      @yaeshraj 6 років тому +3

      Maybe they want to talk about motherboards that do not have m.2 slots but support NVMe drives.

  • @marks372
    @marks372 5 років тому

    Awesome! Great Job! Dude! Keep doing all the great work! Thank you so much!

  • @iggytse
    @iggytse 4 роки тому

    I’m glad I’ve spent the time researching and didn’t rush off to buy hardware. We have a 10 year old computer at work I wanted to upgrade with ssd. It looked like the cheapest option was to get a pcie adaptor for nvme ssd but didn’t realise you can’t boot from it for old motherboards. So will have to go the 2.5 sata route. Will need a USB 3 pcie adaptor as well to speed up cloning.

  • @MuhammadAhmed-wh5kv
    @MuhammadAhmed-wh5kv 4 роки тому +6

    Watching it again in 2019 And still very informative!

  • @GnuB0ot
    @GnuB0ot 7 років тому +3

    So you could just install the Bootloader on a normal SSD and use that to boot from the NVME Drive if your Mainboard does not support that?

    • @sahibjot01
      @sahibjot01 7 років тому

      GnuB0ot what is bootloader.. fuck it this pc shit id confysssingsgsgshsjsks

  • @3rdaxis649
    @3rdaxis649 4 роки тому +1

    hahahahaha I love how you guys put Schluter tile membrane up on the walls!!

  • @rusinsr
    @rusinsr 7 років тому

    Been waiting for a video like this for so long! :D

  • @darkflux
    @darkflux 7 років тому +4

    wow, thanks for keeping me from having to google to find all that info...

  • @scubaac753
    @scubaac753 5 років тому +3

    My brain is mush from watching linus explain this, lol. If only I had went to computer school instead of hvac school.

    • @liby5958
      @liby5958 4 роки тому +2

      i didnt go to any school about computers and i pretty much understand all of this...

    • @martyisokay
      @martyisokay 3 роки тому

      Sheeeit, I appreciate you guys in the HVAC school! I have no friggin' clue how that sorcery works.

  • @axlsumanreloaded
    @axlsumanreloaded 7 років тому

    A video that was definitely needed. Thanks Linus

  • @JMotion
    @JMotion 6 років тому

    I dropped out of follwing tech news at all for a couple years after 2014, then came back this year and was super confused what these little ram looking things were. Can't believe that this kinda thing came along and just became a standard so quickly that nobody talked about them by the time I started following tech news again.

  • @mbahmarijan789
    @mbahmarijan789 4 роки тому +28

    2019? ......
    still confused

    • @liby5958
      @liby5958 4 роки тому

      what you confused about?

    • @cosmosofinfinity
      @cosmosofinfinity 3 роки тому

      2020 and still confused. I got on here to learn specifically about Ultra M.2...

    • @shadi6160
      @shadi6160 3 роки тому

      @@cosmosofinfinity 2021 and still confused

  • @Henrix1998
    @Henrix1998 7 років тому +3

    I wish this video was longer

  • @brandonturbo9911
    @brandonturbo9911 7 років тому

    This was a great basic explanation to Hard drives and connectivity.

  • @morganpaul185
    @morganpaul185 7 років тому

    This was amazing please make more videos like this

  • @Dexter101x
    @Dexter101x 7 років тому +5

    Just what we don't want, confusing computer standards regarding cables

  • @dubious6718
    @dubious6718 7 років тому +23

    Whats with the useless info in the start, about cables?
    Which has nothing to do with M.2

    • @rexyliusde7681
      @rexyliusde7681 7 років тому +1

      The video is not only about the m.2 standard

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 7 років тому

      Rexylius De But it has nothing to do with cables

    • @Marcus-OK
      @Marcus-OK 7 років тому +21

      He's trying to explain the difference between the connector standard and the wire. Otherwise, people would think all the m.2 stuff is the same. Kinda like how people think USB C is an upgrade from USB 2.0 or 3.0

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 7 років тому +2

      Marcus Kapoor He might as well explain the difference between a BMW and a Audi

    • @AlifAmzariAzamee
      @AlifAmzariAzamee 7 років тому +10

      It's not about cables. It is about explaining physical interfaces (USB-C, SATA, M.2, U.2, Sata Express, Thunderbolt, Display Port, HDMI) vs Protocols (AHCI, NVME, USB 3.0, USB 3.1, ).
      It is like, not all USB-C is having the 3.1 speeds. USB-C is not necessarily USB 3.1 protocols. The same thing apply to M.2. Some M.2 have fewer PCIE lanes. And some don't speak NVME language.

  • @delcambrem
    @delcambrem 7 років тому

    Amazingly helpful. Thanks!

  • @alyeakitty
    @alyeakitty 7 років тому

    Should also note; for many boards using m.2 slots on board will disable one or two SATA ports as with ASUS (some especially if running in SATA mode). While this is a good trade off for some, when planning a rig make sure to check the motherboard specs of which ports are disabled (usually in the fine print), if you need those ports and not think the board is bricked because a drive isn't connecting because the port is disabled.

  • @ModrunOfficial
    @ModrunOfficial 7 років тому +21

    touching the mobo with a screwdriver making me hurts

  • @BrawndoQC
    @BrawndoQC 7 років тому +7

    I've the samsung 950 Pro in my build and it's faster than my 3 x 850 Evo storage in Raid-0. Very impressive. To be fair to apple, my 2014 Macbook Pro PCI-e benchmarks are twice as fast as a regular SSD.

  • @Gsoda35
    @Gsoda35 5 років тому

    This is the best Linus Tech Tips I have ever seen!
    Thanks, Team Linus!

  • @sheenobi
    @sheenobi 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the helpful tech tips! Your video really helps, particularly on the SSD variants! I had bought a Dell Inspiron 15 a month ago. The laptop included an 8th gen Intel CPU, 1TB HDD and 32GB RAM. I knew the 1TB HDD is a standard 5400rpm. I opened up the laptop for inspection, it have a slot to support an M.2 SSD. I gave my laptop an upgrade of using a newly 250GB M.2 SSD, and it is running blazing FAST! just freakin' awesome! ALOHA!

  • @tdog7326
    @tdog7326 7 років тому +6

    as a gamer and photo editor will I realistically notice a difference between NVMe and SATA III?

    • @iNick90
      @iNick90 7 років тому

      You'll likely experience faster boot times and loading times (take GTA5 for example) that game will load 2-3x faster on NVMe

    • @QuantumWrench
      @QuantumWrench 7 років тому +1

      Oh Yeah.
      I have an OEM Samsung ahci m.2 256GB drive, x99-pro that yields 2200/1200 MB/s throughput for r/w according to CrystalDiskMark. It is four times faster than my moderately fast SSD on sata. Since storage will always be the slowest HW component, an X4 improvement in potential read and write will always help.
      NVMe will be faster than ahci. Less code and designed for FAST devices using four lanes of PCIe.

    • @polyjohn3425
      @polyjohn3425 7 років тому

      Considering how bulky most photo/video editing programs are, an increase in your drive's throughput is gonna make a pretty big difference.

    • @tdog7326
      @tdog7326 7 років тому

      thanks, I planned to already get a 7600k but I didn't know that

  • @hattrickster33
    @hattrickster33 7 років тому +25

    meh I'll stick with a SATA III 480 GB SSD. The load times are already 2 fast I can never read the loading screens anymore :(

    • @ssssaa2
      @ssssaa2 5 років тому

      The areas where you see a major difference between M2 and SSD are a light less numerous than between SSD and HDD, but they do exist and are once again a several times increase. The big reedeming factor here is that it isn't actually that much more expensive, the gap between HDD and SSD is waaaay bigger than between SSD and M2. It's also very small and frees up a Sata port, so I could see it outside of a budget build.

    • @TheFluffernutter12
      @TheFluffernutter12 5 років тому

      @@ssssaa2 Why not both?
      or is that just pointless?

  • @RoqueSantosJunior
    @RoqueSantosJunior 7 років тому

    Linus thank you for your videos. I feel like my latest rig is 80 years old with a 2 year life span so far... But i've heard about this M.2 standards when i bough the ASRock Beebox for my HTPC.
    BTW why don't you analyze NUC devices? That would be fun.

  • @babybesner
    @babybesner 6 років тому

    Interesting video very educational! Wish I had known all of that a while back...

  • @elijahdunwoody5091
    @elijahdunwoody5091 7 років тому +4

    after 1 year of trouble shooting I finally fixed my computer... FML

  • @NorthshireGaming
    @NorthshireGaming 6 років тому +6

    When he said, "That product already exists", I was tabbed out for a moment and started thinking, "Wait, someone's made a USB to coathanger adapter?"

  • @dudelee1181
    @dudelee1181 6 років тому

    @Linus, Thanks for all your research on this.

  • @Professor__Cow
    @Professor__Cow 4 роки тому

    I just installed my M.2 drive directly into my motherboard, but I really enjoyed your explanation and the visuals, and I had no idea that PCIE devices existed that could basically port your M.2 drive in. :)

    • @laowai2000
      @laowai2000 4 роки тому

      Not only do they exist but they also do not appear to lose any bandwidth. Good to know if you want to run multiple M.2 and motherboard does not have multiple slots.

  • @hunterloli
    @hunterloli 7 років тому +331

    worst written script of LTT....this is super super confusing....

    • @aoshi1992
      @aoshi1992 6 років тому +6

      Agreed

    • @pinkspiders34
      @pinkspiders34 5 років тому +13

      I'll make it simple,get a samsung evo pro nvme m.2

    • @johnabuick
      @johnabuick 5 років тому +5

      Yah, 970 1 tb.

    • @Joostinonline
      @Joostinonline 5 років тому +24

      The script was fine. It's just an incredibly confusing topic.

    • @JAYRAY00
      @JAYRAY00 5 років тому +1

      I thought it was just me who was "wha??" 😞

  • @dexty112
    @dexty112 6 років тому +6

    Are NVME and M.2 the same thing??

    • @ChrisThomasBone
      @ChrisThomasBone 5 років тому +11

      M.2 is a hardware connector. NVMe is a protocol.
      So no, they aren't quite the same thing, but there's some overlap between them.
      You can think of protocols as languages that different components use to communicate with each other, and the hardware connectors as just what they're talking through. Some connectors support multiple protocols, and some protocols can be used over different connectors.
      The question you're asking is analogous to asking if English and Email are the same thing.
      NVMe protocol can be sent over the M.2 connector, but AHCI protocol can also be sent over M.2, the same way you can write an email in English, but you can also use French. NVMe can also be sent over PCIe, the same way you can choose to write the same English information over a text message instead of email.

    • @jefffy7775
      @jefffy7775 5 років тому +1

      @@ChrisThomasBone i thinks he will be more confuse now😂

    • @VijitChandna
      @VijitChandna 5 років тому

      No

    • @cst256
      @cst256 5 років тому

      M.2 is a 'socket', a port, a bus or an interface, a physical (a hardware) thing like a USB/PCIE/SATA ports. Some are faster than the other. Like how a USB 3.0 port is faster faster than the 2.0 one.
      NVMe is a protocol like AHCI, so is not physical thing. NVMe is a new protocol while AHCI exists since early 200 and was designed for hard drives so you could imagine that NVMe is much faster. It sort of a procedure of how the data should be handled during transfer. Like http or tcp protocols for instance -- they sort of handle the rules regarding data transfer. NVME manages to be faster because is reduces the CPU overhead and some more magic that I don't understand like NVMe having more queues and more command in each queue bullshit.

    • @Sheed96
      @Sheed96 5 років тому

      Chris Thomas I totally understood that

  • @FrancoContreras
    @FrancoContreras 7 років тому

    This is the kind of content i miss from LTT, very useful

  • @navblank6848
    @navblank6848 7 років тому

    When I built my brother's computer, I just got him a SATA SSD. I knew nothing about M.2 even though my brother's motherboard supports it. Thank you for explaining this! It will help me in my future builds.

  • @jeyendeoso
    @jeyendeoso 7 років тому +6

    this was barely an explanation of m.2, just a small lesson on how to install a m.2 ssd.

  • @The_LIC
    @The_LIC 7 років тому +6

    This video makes no sense to me and I don't understand it but I watched it all anyway.

  • @Wrathlon
    @Wrathlon 6 років тому

    You CAN boot them on X79 with a simple mod of the BIOS to add the X99 NVME UEFI boot ROM.
    I'm currently using the 960Pro in that Silverstone adapter that has both AHCI and NVME on my Rampage IV Extreme as my boot drive and it reports and benchmarks at full speed as well.

  • @tablatom
    @tablatom 6 років тому

    Linus, you are amazing. You have helped me, a pro user, but not a pro builder,
    to understand what i need to TELL MY BUILDER what i need. Thank you a million times. And i love your fun style.

  • @SavolX
    @SavolX 7 років тому +4

    I feel like an idiot.
    And hey - I've built all my PCs to date myself (hardly an achievement, but still). Damn.

  • @AstroRamiEmad
    @AstroRamiEmad 5 років тому +4

    I understood totally none! First video from Linus that was really not that clear!

  • @DytliefMoller
    @DytliefMoller 7 років тому

    Thank for the research linus....most don't realise ho many variables there usually are....

  • @easternwind4435
    @easternwind4435 6 років тому

    THanks, a graph would also be cool for understanding

  • @jordanallison7105
    @jordanallison7105 7 років тому +9

    Still confusing AF

  • @snackymcgoo1539
    @snackymcgoo1539 5 років тому +6

    Thanks, but I still don't understand.

    • @BenitoFan760
      @BenitoFan760 5 років тому

      I ended up more confused after this video

    • @kyeronelma4835
      @kyeronelma4835 4 роки тому

      @@BenitoFan760 Then you should watch again, a few times if needed, and do a bit of research on your own (GASP!) about the things that confused you the most.

    • @kyeronelma4835
      @kyeronelma4835 4 роки тому

      TLDR - M.2 PCIe SSD is the fastest form of storage.

  • @kaffeetrinker
    @kaffeetrinker 7 років тому

    Nice Video, added this to the specs for the next pc to build :)

  • @EdwardBerryy
    @EdwardBerryy 7 років тому +1

    This stuff is deep man!

  • @mathboy_
    @mathboy_ 7 років тому +6

    One Plus 3 at 1:03 ?

    • @skweej
      @skweej 7 років тому

      Mathboy first

    • @mattthetechguy5057
      @mattthetechguy5057 7 років тому

      I was first Skweej

    • @mathboy_
      @mathboy_ 7 років тому

      wow i'm so pleased with my self. this has truly been the pinnacle of my existence as a human being.

    • @denis_dg
      @denis_dg 7 років тому

      yes, the normal oneplus 3 or the oneplus 3t

    • @kenkalajdzic
      @kenkalajdzic 7 років тому

      Denis G It's a "normal" 3. 3T's gunmetal casing has a slightly different tint.

  • @Epicvampire800
    @Epicvampire800 7 років тому +21

    i misread the title as "the fastest std"

    • @yaeshraj
      @yaeshraj 6 років тому +1

      That easy: its ebola

  • @emptyempty8199
    @emptyempty8199 5 років тому

    This video is really chill

  • @Mr_i_o
    @Mr_i_o 6 років тому

    Efficient and informative so thanks :D

  • @Govadina
    @Govadina 7 років тому +6

    m.2 ahci is not the same as sata

    • @WorBlux
      @WorBlux 7 років тому +2

      AHCI or the Advance Host Controller Interface, is an Intel standardized implementation of a Serial ATA host controller.

    • @_clemens_
      @_clemens_ 7 років тому

      Indeed AHCI can also be used over PCIe...then it isn't Sata! e.g. the SM951 has also a AHCI flavour, which can be used in M.2 PCIe compatible slots. All the new PCIe SSDs use NVMe, but in the eraly PCIe SSD days there were PCIe AHCI cards...unfortunetely the video is confusing about this...

  • @agentp92115
    @agentp92115 5 років тому +9

    Why do you guys always pronounce it "N.V.M.E", when it's clearly meant to be pronounced "Envy Me"? You know, because the performance of the interface is to be envied.

    • @Sheed96
      @Sheed96 5 років тому +1

      agentp92115 because it’s an abbreviation for non-volatile memory express

    • @BabaNamKevalamGames
      @BabaNamKevalamGames 4 роки тому +3

      Lol.
      That was clever.
      Like the GPU company nvidia.
      Envidia...

  • @ianbender5090
    @ianbender5090 5 років тому

    You saved me within the first 4:30 of this video... I was doing a bunch of research because I was afraid an M.2 I was gifted would need an adapter to x4 PCIE.
    My mobo had one all along! It sits between the two x16 slots, perpendicular to them (horizontal with the mobo), so I just could barely see it! Never thought to check if one was embedded because I figured--not a laptop? Most likely no M.2 slot!

  • @BLKJ7
    @BLKJ7 5 років тому

    thanks for the video,,,way easier than reading different web-pages over and over and getting things misinterpreted and confused

  • @KakkoiSan
    @KakkoiSan 7 років тому +2

    Does it matter if I get the fastest ssd for gaming? The only difference I know is the loading times 🤔

    • @slipknotboy555
      @slipknotboy555 7 років тому +1

      Scythe I believe the loading times are the only benefit in terms of gaming (which you already mentioned). There's also faster boot times, but I think those two are it in a gaming context (of course, there's generally also faster reads and writes, but I don't think that's very relevant for gaming)

    • @torpedohippo8493
      @torpedohippo8493 7 років тому

      SSD/HDD/Whatever has no effect on performance, only loading times (mainly the initial start-up load of the game)

    • @techpanda2022
      @techpanda2022 7 років тому

      most folks just get it for the operating system and programs. My motherboard, x99 taichi, has two m.2 slots, so I thought about getting one for gaming. Pricewise its just not going to happen, plus my steam library wouldn't fit on any ssd right now. For a game drive, I would look at western digital gold drives as the loading times are improved with a good hard drive.

    • @stabilisedchaos
      @stabilisedchaos 7 років тому

      I went back to a old HDD for 30 minutes because my SSD broke,that's how long it took me to rip the HDD out and throw it in the trash,the game load times were horrendous.

  • @MrBuash
    @MrBuash 7 років тому +5

    I wish I could just plug everything into my hole.

  • @nimoy007
    @nimoy007 7 років тому

    Well-explained tough topic!

  • @patrice373
    @patrice373 7 років тому

    Many thanks again for this video, you're the best