@@iXShadow Myers? Juulsen and Soucy are far worse! Myers is fine on the 3rd pairing. He just isnt a top 4 guy. Canucks need to stop relying on these AHL caliber players in their D core. Trade Boeser for Dumba + pick. Trade Soft AF Petey to Sabres for Thompson and Byram.
What is his issue with the timeouts? Why he never takes one to change the momentum? Can a reporter ask him? How many times have this happened this year and he doesn’t take a timeout
How is that suppose to make Myers and Juulsen play better? The problem is with the staff we have on the ice you have to look higher to the management. Your asking Tocchet to make a beautiful sculpture out of piles of shit.
@@Cobra85291 who said calling a time out magically makes a player play better lol, calling a time out can mentally calm things down for the players if things are too hectic at the time, or you can tell the players to form different defensive structure or strategy, etc..lots of reasons to call time out But nobody said or thinks that calling a time out will make a player become a better player lol.
Seattle took one when we basically needed to take one anyways. We've all noticed his reluctance with taking TO's but I don't think yesterday is a good example.
Allvin probably regretting not giving Zadorov 5 mil, instead giving Myers 3mil and Desharnais 2mil, even though Zadorov does come with longer term but that 5 mil could’ve been better spent with both Hughes and Hronek out
Not so much ruthless, more like people who's brains are on auto erase. One day chanting "JT Miller!", next day "Trade the Bum! He's a Cancer!". One day, "Toccet is a genius", next day "Fire the coach!". Saying they're reactive is an understatement...lol
The fans are basically all insane because it rains all the time and they are constantly in a traffic jam to go anywhere plus they need to make a half million just to pay their mortgage. But they still chant "best place in the world, I live in the best place in the world".
Not sure why the media keeps saying without 2 of your best players when Hronek is by far the 2nd best defenseman so it's actually 3 which is a lot. If these top 2 defenders are playing there's no way that result happens.
Scratch Myers and Juulsen for next game. There needs to be consequences for their god awful play. Anyone from the AHL would be an upgrade for those two at this point.
57 minutes Canucks played a solid game... last 3 minutes ohhhhhhh boy that's tough! I was pissed watching that and o.t. I already knew the outcome... oh well brush it off kick ass in the next one
I like your opinion sir 100 percent agreed everyone is way to negative about this team we played great and then we shit the bed, these types of things happen in hockey
Aside from the usual problems between their stars and poor defense, the amount of risky extra passes in the offensive goal that lead into interception giving breakways/odd man rushes are a huge problem. 2 of the many examples this game are the PP with over a minute of clean puck possession with 0 attempted shots on net into a turn around. In OT Myers went for a pass between 2 Krakens instead of shooting the free shot he had infront of him gave the 2 man breakaway turnaround to lose. They have good players that thrive on rebounds but they just don't shoot enough always 1 pass to many to give the opponents breakaways/odd-man rushes. Right Now their strength is pressure pressure pressure and chaos they win the forecheck and board battles just get the puck infront. Boeser Debrisk and Sherwood will bury them.
Were at a point where we either NEED to make a trade for better Dmen and if that costs us our future im fine with it, or just sell some of these players off at their high value and get some assets for last season
These incoming trades will be interesting..for once I have a bit of faith in the front office,and I think they’re gonna pull something good off.Miller,Demko,Hoggi,and first round picks should be on the table
it felt like it looked, a gut punch indeed.. it's not the end of anything. maintain pts pace with 1 pts. work off that stuffing and go get the flames in the next one.
This is embarrassing. 2 weeks ago I went to a game where the Canucks handily beat the reigning champs. Where did that team go? It's funny how the Canucks look like contenders and basement dwellers all in the same period, never mind the same game. I have a feeling that the word is out in the league, that if you put the pressure on, the Canucks will self destruct. I've been a Canucks fan most of my life, so I understand heartache. But, I was looking forward to this year. Now, I'm afraid to watch. Just when you think it can't get any worse, it does. Something has got to give.
How is that suppose to make Myers and Juulsen play better? The problem is with the staff we have on the ice you have to look higher to the management. Your asking Tocchet to make a beautiful sculpture out of piles of shit.
With how piss poor the d play infront of demko. Any goalie wouldn't save those. Turning a puck over right infront of demko in the slot . For the seattle kraken player to get a free slot shot with all the time in the world on demmer.
@@TheBlazersfan22I disagree Demmer needs to stop 1 of those last 3..Lanks is the clear number 1.and we have a bigger sample size than silovs,Lanks is not a fluke..we can’t have Demkos salary as a backup
Who thought that Desharnais would be the fix our blueline needed? Who thought that Soucy & Myers would be an acceptable 2nd pair, let alone the top pair as they are now? This isn't on Tocchet. He's not the one acquiring players.
@@goldenchest2000 yes but he is the one choosing to play them. He doesn’t have to play them. Maybe it’s time to let some of our defensemen in Abbotsford have a go
Myers and desharnais were bad signings from the start. Letting cole walk was a mistake. Miller > petterson. People do not understand this team got good after getting nhl defensemen last year. You dont have a top 4. Myers, juulsen, brannstrom dont cut it. Cole was a acceptable
Last year Soucy was better then Cole and Cole was dreadful in the playoffs on top of having four own goals so I can understand going with Soucy over him but resigning Myers was absolutely brain dead. We were finally free after six years of torture but nope.
Fair. Yeah i feel like myers and cole were opposite in that cole had a bad, and unlucky, playoff and myers was amazing, physical etc. but overall myers never been great and cole is solid. Atleast the zadorov debacle was avoided. #4-5 dman, paid like a #3. Which we need rn
Very tired of how the media always frame their questions about the game results by referencing the players that are hurt and not playing. Always the out for the players to agree and get in their heads that we lost cuz these guys were missing. Then when the Canucks get everyone back healthy, the excuse won`t be hurt players, it will be lack of talent, pride, work ethic, chemistry and systems. The Canuck perenial excuse train continues.
Unacceptable. Tocc is losing the room. Make some trades front office. It's up to you. Because this shit sucks and why would you pay a cent to watch this live?
Tocc is still one of the best coaches in the nhl we have no 2nd pair dmen and it shows we are at a point where d petey needs to be brought up and maybe willander too when he is done with the world juniors
Team is a joke, coaching staff is in way over their head. Foote is completely lost with the defence and the players dgaf. Burn it down and attract over ffs.
Absolutely disgusting, unbelievable lack of tenacity to put Kracken away. Last year the Canucks were better than what is playing in front of us today. Demko is not the same goalie he once was.
Ian Macintyre couldn't ask questions any slower. He should clue in as to that's why he gets his questions cut off all the time. And giving his personal opinion during his own questions is unnecessary and another reason why no one likes him
I have been getting inti Canucks the last five years and love the players they have got recently but after getting to know Vancouder fans OMFG these people do not deserve a cup at all! seriouslu worst community ever.
As a fan of over 35 years , I find comfort and familiarity in this pain
Agreed, for me it’s been 54 years …
Yup. "It will be different this year". I've made the mistake of believing that more than once as well. Including this year.
Lol
Me too, nothing surprising about this game, the knucklehead motto “at least we got a point “
Good teams find a way to win games. Bad teams find a way to lose games.
Allvin should have addressed the D before the season even began.
Well said, Myers needs to go
@@iXShadow Myers? Juulsen and Soucy are far worse! Myers is fine on the 3rd pairing. He just isnt a top 4 guy. Canucks need to stop relying on these AHL caliber players in their D core. Trade Boeser for Dumba + pick. Trade Soft AF Petey to Sabres for Thompson and Byram.
If the Canucks don’t address this soon , they WILL miss the playoffs
@@Lion-ci8bmBoeser for Dumba and a pick 😭 no way you said this bro
@@Lion-ci8bm yes Myers, tonight isn’t the first night he’s played like an AHL player. I agree with you, but Myers is no better
“Slipped away” isn’t the phrase I’d use for blowing a 4-1 lead in your own barn. That was full melt. Guy is a robot in these pressers.
What is his issue with the timeouts? Why he never takes one to change the momentum? Can a reporter ask him? How many times have this happened this year and he doesn’t take a timeout
Exactly. How come he never calls a time out when things are getting out of hand ? He never does it, I don't get it.
How is that suppose to make Myers and Juulsen play better? The problem is with the staff we have on the ice you have to look higher to the management. Your asking Tocchet to make a beautiful sculpture out of piles of shit.
@@Cobra85291 who said calling a time out magically makes a player play better lol, calling a time out can mentally calm things down for the players if things are too hectic at the time, or you can tell the players to form different defensive structure or strategy, etc..lots of reasons to call time out
But nobody said or thinks that calling a time out will make a player become a better player lol.
Seattle took one when we basically needed to take one anyways. We've all noticed his reluctance with taking TO's but I don't think yesterday is a good example.
Juulsen was drunk the whole game holy moly. When he is in your lineup consistently, you know its bad!
Soucy is the real issue guy is a pylon
its not the coach . He needs to deal with his hand dealt with having a poor defence
The issue is the GM that has yet to do something about it
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I agree its the staff we have on the ice. Everyone is asking Tocchet to make a beautiful sculpture out of piles of shit.
This team worked hard only to lose it under 5 minutes . Bone head plays. Beer league guys make smarter plays
Unacceptable. Crazy how much can change in the span of what maybe 15 minutes? Why do we get so comfortable to where we end up throwing the game
They almost lost to Sharks too last game.
@ It’s depressing to see
@@bakikountwa2192when Hughes and hronek hop off the ice it. Our defence can’t keep the puck or clear the puck.
Ya I dunno why they lay back when they’re in the lead
Four goals in just over seven minutes so 15mins is being generous
Allvin probably regretting not giving Zadorov 5 mil, instead giving Myers 3mil and Desharnais 2mil, even though Zadorov does come with longer term but that 5 mil could’ve been better spent with both Hughes and Hronek out
The only team that learns nothing by their mistakes.
I’m so happy I decided not to renew my Sportsnet package this season
Man Canucks fans are ruthless 😂
It’s all just reactive to the last thing that happened, the takes change every game 🙄
@@r.giulianothey choked the worst lead in franchise history and their will still be fanboys saying you can't judge the team at all 😂
Not so much ruthless, more like people who's brains are on auto erase. One day chanting "JT Miller!", next day "Trade the Bum! He's a Cancer!". One day, "Toccet is a genius", next day "Fire the coach!". Saying they're reactive is an understatement...lol
@@tlevans62goldfish
The fans are basically all insane because it rains all the time and they are constantly in a traffic jam to go anywhere plus they need to make a half million just to pay their mortgage. But they still chant "best place in the world, I live in the best place in the world".
Defense is atrocious! Costing us the games. Desharnais, Soucy and Juulsen were brutal today
They should never have let Zadarov go!
@@MartieNov newsflash, Zadarov is not the answer here. especially not for the price he was demanding. and this comes from a guy who loved big Z
@@MartieNov For 5x6 ? The Bruins were fools to give him that
Soucy is an all star compared to the giraffe on skates that is Myers. We were finally free after six years of torture and they resign him.
You cannot be serious Soucy is the biggest pylon on the team
The loser point means nothing when you choke a 3 goal lead at home with 5 minutes remaining. Embarrassing.
Reminded me of some Luongo games.
Juulsen shouldnt be resigned
He belongs in Buffalo
MYERS shouldnt have been resigned after six years of torture
@@emperoralvis6559he belongs in siberia
Also Juulsen was resigned in 2023 when he was more of an AHL guy and did alright. No one could of predicted hed be a mainstay in the line up.
Julssen danger play down the middle, not using the boards. Unacceptable.
Not sure why the media keeps saying without 2 of your best players when Hronek is by far the 2nd best defenseman so it's actually 3 which is a lot.
If these top 2 defenders are playing there's no way that result happens.
Tocchet seems to put the wrong guys out in overtime and it has cost the Canucks at least 4 OT wins.
Scratch Myers and Juulsen for next game. There needs to be consequences for their god awful play. Anyone from the AHL would be an upgrade for those two at this point.
You say that, but you wouldn’t be too happy to find out the replacements would be worst
Vinny Mcward and Woo on RD. Look out nhl. Would rather watch it than Myers n Juulsen though.
Same word salad over and over.
That's a top three NHL history moment, fellas. Don't flood the rink, Fraser.
57 minutes Canucks played a solid game... last 3 minutes ohhhhhhh boy that's tough! I was pissed watching that and o.t. I already knew the outcome... oh well brush it off kick ass in the next one
I like your opinion sir 100 percent agreed everyone is way to negative about this team we played great and then we shit the bed, these types of things happen in hockey
Why not take a time out coach and keep myers on the bench please or maybe all of them
Aside from the usual problems between their stars and poor defense, the amount of risky extra passes in the offensive goal that lead into interception giving breakways/odd man rushes are a huge problem.
2 of the many examples this game are the PP with over a minute of clean puck possession with 0 attempted shots on net into a turn around.
In OT Myers went for a pass between 2 Krakens instead of shooting the free shot he had infront of him gave the 2 man breakaway turnaround to lose.
They have good players that thrive on rebounds but they just don't shoot enough always 1 pass to many to give the opponents breakaways/odd-man rushes.
Right Now their strength is pressure pressure pressure and chaos they win the forecheck and board battles just get the puck infront. Boeser Debrisk and Sherwood will bury them.
Were at a point where we either NEED to make a trade for better Dmen and if that costs us our future im fine with it, or just sell some of these players off at their high value and get some assets for last season
These incoming trades will be interesting..for once I have a bit of faith in the front office,and I think they’re gonna pull something good off.Miller,Demko,Hoggi,and first round picks should be on the table
If they dont get rid of Myers, Juulsen and Hoglander in the next couple weeks this season is a wrap
@@Cobra85291 agreed
@@picklerick9906 don't agree with the pick but i 1000% agree with the players you named.
Miller + Willander for Fox
Drop Myers' minutes...he's a third line at best, and Juulsen has no business playing in the nhl.
Why is demko is net LOL. we had the hottest goalie in the league.
People blaming Toch are brain dead. Alvin set him up with this garbage defence.
Loss At Home And Division Opponent And Calgary Is Next Another Division Opponent Get Your Shit Together Or Fin Will Be Belly Up
it felt like it looked, a gut punch indeed.. it's not the end of anything. maintain pts pace with 1 pts. work off that stuffing and go get the flames in the next one.
This is embarrassing. 2 weeks ago I went to a game where the Canucks handily beat the reigning champs. Where did that team go? It's funny how the Canucks look like contenders and basement dwellers all in the same period, never mind the same game. I have a feeling that the word is out in the league, that if you put the pressure on, the Canucks will self destruct. I've been a Canucks fan most of my life, so I understand heartache. But, I was looking forward to this year. Now, I'm afraid to watch. Just when you think it can't get any worse, it does. Something has got to give.
Miller can take his assists elsewhere, same with Soucy and Desharnais. Trade them to Detroit for Moritz. Easy fix.
What do u expect when u sign Myers for 3 years… no excuse Demko couldn’t stop a fuckin beach ball…
Myers is doing exactly what he needs to be doing for his contract
@@johnnybaxter1953 agreed. myers is not their problem haha
Why didn’t he fucking call a time out when it was 4-3???????????? Lost an insane amount of respect
How is that suppose to make Myers and Juulsen play better? The problem is with the staff we have on the ice you have to look higher to the management. Your asking Tocchet to make a beautiful sculpture out of piles of shit.
He didn’t have to. Seattle called a time out!
The definition of insanity … keep doing the same thing over and over again , but expect a different result…
That is not the definition of insanity. Why do people always say this? There isn't even proof that Einstein said it.
Demko a bit of a siv now. Taking a long time to reclaim his form.
He was good the past few games, no?
Demko only allowed 1 bad goal. Every other goal he had literally no shot at . High danger shots below the hashmarks and a rebound of soucy leg
With how piss poor the d play infront of demko. Any goalie wouldn't save those. Turning a puck over right infront of demko in the slot . For the seattle kraken player to get a free slot shot with all the time in the world on demmer.
I don’t know if you noticed but the Canucks defense core is BAD.
@@TheBlazersfan22I disagree Demmer needs to stop 1 of those last 3..Lanks is the clear number 1.and we have a bigger sample size than silovs,Lanks is not a fluke..we can’t have Demkos salary as a backup
If Juulsen is anywhere other than the press box next game, Tocchet needs to be fired.
Hell Myers can join him in there. Any AHL call up would be better then those two right now.
@@Cobra85291 yeah why dont they call up mcward, pettersson (D) and willander or something like that
Sorry but this loss is on Tocchet, for continuing to play these god awful defensemen.
I bet some forwards can go onto defence and do better than soucy
Who thought that Desharnais would be the fix our blueline needed? Who thought that Soucy & Myers would be an acceptable 2nd pair, let alone the top pair as they are now? This isn't on Tocchet. He's not the one acquiring players.
Make a trade now. Trade Hoglander, 1st ,2nd, Desharnais and get a quality top four defender.
@@goldenchest2000 yes but he is the one choosing to play them. He doesn’t have to play them. Maybe it’s time to let some of our defensemen in Abbotsford have a go
@@seanworre1l ... you cant be serious if you think the abby defensemen will be better than our current lineup
Why is Tocchet so reluctant to use his fricken' Time Out when the guys are running around like chickens with their heads cut off?
Tocchet says the team will learn from this...grow from this.
Myers and desharnais were bad signings from the start. Letting cole walk was a mistake.
Miller > petterson.
People do not understand this team got good after getting nhl defensemen last year. You dont have a top 4. Myers, juulsen, brannstrom dont cut it. Cole was a acceptable
Last year Soucy was better then Cole and Cole was dreadful in the playoffs on top of having four own goals so I can understand going with Soucy over him but resigning Myers was absolutely brain dead. We were finally free after six years of torture but nope.
Fair. Yeah i feel like myers and cole were opposite in that cole had a bad, and unlucky, playoff and myers was amazing, physical etc. but overall myers never been great and cole is solid.
Atleast the zadorov debacle was avoided. #4-5 dman, paid like a #3. Which we need rn
Personally I like the myers signing, he is solid for his price.
Myers n Juulsen should go on waivers
Whos the goof with the lisp? He's only been around for a few weeks but you can tell the team is tired of him already lol.
Very tired of how the media always frame their questions about the game results by referencing the players that are hurt and not playing. Always the out for the players to agree and get in their heads that we lost cuz these guys were missing. Then when the Canucks get everyone back healthy, the excuse won`t be hurt players, it will be lack of talent, pride, work ethic, chemistry and systems. The Canuck perenial excuse train continues.
Unacceptable. Tocc is losing the room. Make some trades front office. It's up to you. Because this shit sucks and why would you pay a cent to watch this live?
Fire the coach already! WTF
Lmao these comments are delusional
Tocc is still one of the best coaches in the nhl we have no 2nd pair dmen and it shows we are at a point where d petey needs to be brought up and maybe willander too when he is done with the world juniors
I fear his shelf life is expiring. It’s getting to be obvious.
Team is a joke, coaching staff is in way over their head. Foote is completely lost with the defence and the players dgaf. Burn it down and attract over ffs.
Absolutely disgusting, unbelievable lack of tenacity to put Kracken away. Last year the Canucks were better than what is playing in front of us today. Demko is not the same goalie he once was.
This team needs to rebuild again
We have been rebuilding for 50 years.
Trade Petey to the Rangers for Fox
Shouldve kept sprong
Take a timeout, maybe gain some Composure.
Horrible defence! Shooting right up the middle near the end… ugh. All around GREAT game though until last 5 min… 😮
Sounds like the team is content with being sub par. That attitude will never win a championship.
Trade miller ASAP
Miller needs to go
Need entirely new defence. Canucks will always be a shit team and choke artists..If this team ever wins a Stanley Cup, I'd be beyond shocked.
Couple of mistakes? Never learn. You have 4-1 lead you should win a game. Defense sucked in last 5 mins.
Canucks are going no where with old time hockey.
Tocchet is a joke. Same shit over and over.
Couple of mistakes???? WTF. Get rid of DEMKO
Get rid of Myers.Pathetic excuse for a defenceman
Only 3 more years before his next extension
Ian Macintyre couldn't ask questions any slower. He should clue in as to that's why he gets his questions cut off all the time. And giving his personal opinion during his own questions is unnecessary and another reason why no one likes him
I have been getting inti Canucks the last five years and love the players they have got recently but after getting to know Vancouder fans OMFG these people do not deserve a cup at all! seriouslu worst community ever.
Leave just leave. Beyond sick of this inept coach
Timeout. 4-2. Take a timeout???
FIRE the coach. The players hate him
I think he’s actually liked lol not the coach’s fault
trade miller. he is the real issue... we could get a very solid top4 d for him.
Im starting to question this stubborn rigid coach.