Great video - adjusters DO NOT understand true reparability. Someone at a desk decided this tool would solve all those problems without actually testing it!
So hammer it down untill the hit before you damage the shingle then slightly tilt, the nail is driven so far down at this point it will still be perpendicular to the roof....
I appreciate you video and I see the point you are driving at (ha). Yes a little bit of refinement of the tool is required. But it's also obvious to me that a little finesse is required for a better job. Fly-by-nighters and guys who are trying to pay their mortgage off within a few jobs are the type of repair men that would use the tool the way you do. It it just a matter of slowing down. Slow down and use some finesse.
I've witnessed professionals use the tool and drive crooked nails. They took their time. When they reuse the nail holes that are there, there is less issues, but are we supposed to re-use nail holes that are likely now bored out a little. Either way the new shingle going in won't have that ability. Fact: This tool reduces the control over the nail being driven. No shingle manufacturer has endorsed the tool.
No tool is perfect. Your review and demonstration are found wanting. I’ve seen other vids showing adept use of this tool. Tools are as good as the tool using it.
If you can send me a link with those videos, I'd be happy to watch them. My video is specific to the use of the tool for insurance claim restoration. There is no way to drive the nail perpendicular to the plane without causing impact damage from the tool. If you are holding the bottom of the tool the entire time, then the nail is being driven at an angle. Its not a perfect tool. That is why insurance carriers and/or engineers should not be pushing the use of this tool for insurance restoration.
Lifting the tab on 3 tab to clear for hammer might be okay and not bend it too much but architectural shingles with no slit and multiple glued up layers makes repairs darn difficult with just a hammer. Roof snake only viable tool that minimizes above shingle lift to drive nail in the one below. If held carefully in initial setting of nail and kept flat on the nail while driving it home the tail will barely (not at all if adept) touch lower shingles. What do you use on arch shing repairs - just hammer ?
@@ListentothisBULL I'm a different person but I saw this yesterday. It's from Drew's roofing. He only uses it when nailing the last run when you can't lift the shingle tabs up as easily as you can on the lower rows. I think it would be better to have a little clearance under the pry bar side of the handle. I did notice Drew keeps his fingers under the bar. I've seen hand nailed shingles with crooked nails in them. Here's the video. Skip to around 7:35 or so. ua-cam.com/video/9CzQf1RLP4Q/v-deo.html
I watched the video. I had to cringe a few times as I watched him crease the shingles. I did an update video that you might take a look at. ua-cam.com/video/Xe5dqpHhNNM/v-deo.html
Just because you don't know how to properly use a roof snake doesn't mean it's not a great tool. Don't let the end of the roof snake rest on the lower shingle when nailing...it's that easy and the nail is perfectly straight. I have used a roof snake hundreds of times without collateral damage to adjoining shingles. Just saying. Squirrely? I think not. It's easy for a hungry contractor to attack the insurance companies over their approach. When they try to minimize unnecessary payouts for a full roof replacement they should be thanked since it helps keep the cost of insurance lower for all of us.
The cost of insurance is a whole other issue. Insurance companies often tell policyholders that the damage they claimed happened on a different date of loss or by a different cause of loss. Then they tell the policyholder to file a new claim for that different date or cause of loss to get coverage. Now the policyholder has two claims for the same damage. The carriers can now complain to the department of insurance that there are more claims in that zip code than expected so the rates need to be increased. They could easily have just changed the cause or date of loss in their system on the original claim. Why don't they do that? The tool is garbage. It is what it is. There are better ways to do things than others. Personally I think everyone should install Euroshield roofs and have basically hail and Wind proof roofs to begin with. THAT would decrease insurance rates.
I find it comical to see folks claiming that a little scuff on a shingle would drastically reduce its life. As if a contractor never scuffed a new roof on install.
Seems like a slight mod to the tool easily remedies the problem. Adding self adhering foam strips to bottom of tool might prevent marring the shingles.
Are you a roofing contractor, meaning, someone who has received payment for roofing services? If so, do yo separate yourself from your role as a public adjuster? As a public adjuster, do you take a legitimate stance towards completing spot repairs, or do you always push for full replacement?
I was a roofing contractor that performed repairs for money before becoming a public adjuster. As a Public adjuster I did not always go for full replacements, but it was often. Generally PAs get involved in Claims with a lot of BS.
@@ListentothisBULL The PA's usually bring the BS, such in this case, your video. Its hard to watch a PA complain when they are paid on a % basis of the claim. Conceding that repairs can be made would lighten your paycheck. Funny how that works.
@@richardwellington4747 does the fact that someone is paid a percentage automatically make that person's opinion unreliable? The argument is easily reversed to say that no insurer wants to pay out more, so of course they push the repair. Who is right? Who's opinion is more reliable? This perception just has to stop.
So what you're saying is don't everyone try a repair at all and just get insurance to pay for a full replacement for damages to 1 shingle. So smart guy show us a repair on an architectural shingle sealed up nicely with 6 nails in it
you don't go straight on you can move tool on an and easily drive nail as straight as with any hammer... theres a thing called finesse and a learning curve,which only takes common sense to master... plus i used my regular hammer and had to go on a slight angle or i would have messed up the old shingle... I never saw any roof with all nails installed perfectly vertical...That first nail that was bent obviously hit another nail...this guy will try to sell owner a entire new roof if it was only missing a few shingles from a storm...
Where would you put the pad? Would you put it on just the tail end, or also around the nail? Both the head of the tool and the tail leave impact damage.
Great video - adjusters DO NOT understand true reparability. Someone at a desk decided this tool would solve all those problems without actually testing it!
So hammer it down untill the hit before you damage the shingle then slightly tilt, the nail is driven so far down at this point it will still be perpendicular to the roof....
I appreciate you video and I see the point you are driving at (ha). Yes a little bit of refinement of the tool is required. But it's also obvious to me that a little finesse is required for a better job. Fly-by-nighters and guys who are trying to pay their mortgage off within a few jobs are the type of repair men that would use the tool the way you do. It it just a matter of slowing down. Slow down and use some finesse.
I've witnessed professionals use the tool and drive crooked nails. They took their time. When they reuse the nail holes that are there, there is less issues, but are we supposed to re-use nail holes that are likely now bored out a little. Either way the new shingle going in won't have that ability.
Fact: This tool reduces the control over the nail being driven. No shingle manufacturer has endorsed the tool.
No tool is perfect. Your review and demonstration are found wanting. I’ve seen other vids showing adept use of this tool. Tools are as good as the tool using it.
If you can send me a link with those videos, I'd be happy to watch them. My video is specific to the use of the tool for insurance claim restoration. There is no way to drive the nail perpendicular to the plane without causing impact damage from the tool. If you are holding the bottom of the tool the entire time, then the nail is being driven at an angle. Its not a perfect tool. That is why insurance carriers and/or engineers should not be pushing the use of this tool for insurance restoration.
Lifting the tab on 3 tab to clear for hammer might be okay and not bend it too much but architectural shingles with no slit and multiple glued up layers makes repairs darn difficult with just a hammer. Roof snake only viable tool that minimizes above shingle lift to drive nail in the one below. If held carefully in initial setting of nail and kept flat on the nail while driving it home the tail will barely (not at all if adept) touch lower shingles. What do you use on arch shing repairs - just hammer ?
Did you find the videos that you were describing?
@@ListentothisBULL I'm a different person but I saw this yesterday. It's from Drew's roofing. He only uses it when nailing the last run when you can't lift the shingle tabs up as easily as you can on the lower rows. I think it would be better to have a little clearance under the pry bar side of the handle. I did notice Drew keeps his fingers under the bar. I've seen hand nailed shingles with crooked nails in them.
Here's the video. Skip to around 7:35 or so. ua-cam.com/video/9CzQf1RLP4Q/v-deo.html
I watched the video. I had to cringe a few times as I watched him crease the shingles. I did an update video that you might take a look at. ua-cam.com/video/Xe5dqpHhNNM/v-deo.html
I just got mine today. I'll try for myself and see if it's quicker and more practical than the standard method.
how was it
How come you did not demo the way you can hammer a nail perfectly straight using your hammer method without over bending a shingle???
Just because you don't know how to properly use a roof snake doesn't mean it's not a great tool.
Don't let the end of the roof snake rest on the lower shingle when nailing...it's that easy and the nail is perfectly straight.
I have used a roof snake hundreds of times without collateral damage to adjoining shingles. Just saying.
Squirrely? I think not.
It's easy for a hungry contractor to attack the insurance companies over their approach. When they try to minimize unnecessary payouts for a full roof replacement they should be thanked since it helps keep the cost of insurance lower for all of us.
The cost of insurance is a whole other issue. Insurance companies often tell policyholders that the damage they claimed happened on a different date of loss or by a different cause of loss. Then they tell the policyholder to file a new claim for that different date or cause of loss to get coverage. Now the policyholder has two claims for the same damage. The carriers can now complain to the department of insurance that there are more claims in that zip code than expected so the rates need to be increased.
They could easily have just changed the cause or date of loss in their system on the original claim. Why don't they do that?
The tool is garbage. It is what it is. There are better ways to do things than others. Personally I think everyone should install Euroshield roofs and have basically hail and Wind proof roofs to begin with. THAT would decrease insurance rates.
Imagine this guy reviewing hammers, when they first came out...
I find it comical to see folks claiming that a little scuff on a shingle would drastically reduce its life. As if a contractor never scuffed a new roof on install.
Those granules have a purpose my friend.
Tell me you don't work for the insurance without telling me you work for the insurance. Great video my dude.
Seems like a slight mod to the tool easily remedies the problem. Adding self adhering foam strips to bottom of tool might prevent marring the shingles.
maybe. should roofers be expected to use a tool differently than the manufacturer of the tool suggests?
Practice makes perfect.
Indeed (:
OK, I purchase this but did not get to use it yet. But you killed it.
hold on a sec, Is your cameraman perched on the skid of a helicopter? What is that ungodly noise! LOL
South Atlanta.
Just put a shingle tab under it so not to damage the nailed down shingle. Your demonstration is exaggerated.
Should a roofing contractor be expected to use a tool differently than the manufacturer of the tool suggests?
Are you a roofing contractor, meaning, someone who has received payment for roofing services? If so, do yo separate yourself from your role as a public adjuster? As a public adjuster, do you take a legitimate stance towards completing spot repairs, or do you always push for full replacement?
I was a roofing contractor that performed repairs for money before becoming a public adjuster. As a Public adjuster I did not always go for full replacements, but it was often. Generally PAs get involved in Claims with a lot of BS.
@@ListentothisBULL The PA's usually bring the BS, such in this case, your video. Its hard to watch a PA complain when they are paid on a % basis of the claim. Conceding that repairs can be made would lighten your paycheck. Funny how that works.
@@richardwellington4747 does the fact that someone is paid a percentage automatically make that person's opinion unreliable? The argument is easily reversed to say that no insurer wants to pay out more, so of course they push the repair. Who is right? Who's opinion is more reliable? This perception just has to stop.
He used to be a roofer you know what they say about people that use to be a roofer?? They were no good at it..
I use an old piece of 30 pound tar paper and get perfect results
Can you post some video and photos? Please do it on a roof that is brittle.
Firs coment by the time I put a nail with that tool I've put 5 with my hands + Hummer
I assume you mean hammer. Otherwise that is way too fast.
Use a ShingleShock. ua-cam.com/video/gpPeLGCJZng/v-deo.html
So what you're saying is don't everyone try a repair at all and just get insurance to pay for a full replacement for damages to 1 shingle. So smart guy show us a repair on an architectural shingle sealed up nicely with 6 nails in it
alright, so how many shingles does it take before it's reasonable to you?
@Listen to this BULL 25% plus. If your lucky. Here's the deal in NYC insurance doesn't pay for wind damage at all. So you have to be good at repairs
Give a roofer or a PA an inkblot test and what will he see? "Hail damage - unrepairable."
That's user error my dude. 🤣
You nail as far as it will go. Then pull tool and put it on top of nail to finish driving.
Use a ShingleShock. ua-cam.com/video/gpPeLGCJZng/v-deo.html
you don't go straight on you can move tool on an and easily drive nail as straight as with any hammer... theres a thing called finesse and a learning curve,which only takes common sense to master... plus i used my regular hammer and had to go on a slight angle or i would have messed up the old shingle... I never saw any roof with all nails installed perfectly vertical...That first nail that was bent obviously hit another nail...this guy will try to sell owner a entire new roof if it was only missing a few shingles from a storm...
Now put an inch in a quarter nail in it. And all of a sudden it's not flat wow
I would use the tool
and use a pad
Where would you put the pad? Would you put it on just the tail end, or also around the nail? Both the head of the tool and the tail leave impact damage.
@@ListentothisBULL Use a ShingleShock. ua-cam.com/video/gpPeLGCJZng/v-deo.html
Look at the Shingle Shock. It isn't offset.
What I think is "squirrely" is that you don't know how to spell "squirrel."
gripe about a tool and give no solution
The solution is to replace the roof section.
U DONT KNOW HIW TO USE IT BUDY I GOT 3 YEARS USING IT AND IT WORKSHEET PERFECT