USA Is Getting Worse At Baseball And MLB Loves it
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"Winning a tournament in a sport they invented shouldn't seem surprising" tell that to England
IT'S COMING HOME
England are the current ODI and T20 world champs in cricket. Won the 2003 Rugby world cup
@@broncos435 It grew up in England, quickly left to see the world, reluctantly visited back home once in 1966, like visiting a weird uncle, and now it's never coming back!
@@stackhat8624 2003 is 20 years ago.
Give England some credit, they have created a lot of popular sports around the world.
to hear Ichiro say that it was the most humiliating defeat of his life really says something when you remember that he was a Mariner.
LOL
Because of nationalism?
Japan and Korea just hate each other that much for him to say that
@@miguelbesana6468 they got smoked in the playoffs it wasn’t just a loss
@@newsieboys1171 100%. The nationalism goes both ways. Both countries are at fault.
I, an American, consider myself a casual baseball fan and I think the fact that I had not heard of this tournament until 2 days ago when I saw it on a tv at the bar speaks volumes to how little it means here in the US, which is a shame because it was great to watch
Yeah, I've been watching it religiously since I saw a video on Facebook a couple of days ago. It's been very entertaining!
I know exactly how you feel. I am now obsessed with it. I absolutely love this tournament
Honestly that's crazy to me bc I live in PR and literally the only ppl who aren't watching it are those who don't have access to it,despise sports or are literal babies pretty much everyone else is watching the WBC over here
sad to hear... dominicans watch every tournament... its unfortunate that the MLB nerfs our dominican team and doesnt let their all stars actually play
@@JustNel lol. If that lineup ain't your stars than idk who else you're talking about
Australian baseball fan here, been supporting the Yankees since ‘96. Seeing our Aussie team get up and compete at the international level means more to me than the 2009 WS. It barely got mentioned on the mainstream news, no one I know outside of baseball had a clue what I was talking about. The WBC is incredibly important for the sport of baseball. It can’t be understated.
Yankees have fans overseas? Ewww!!!
@@rustyshackelford4224 I think they like the most popular mlb team tbh
@@GGMONTANA it’s actually more a case of mlb marketing only the popular teams. Like it’s a million times easier to get Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers merch here than it is to even see any kind of Mariners, Brewers, Rays merch.
It’s very slowly getting better as baseball starts to slowly get bigger here in Aus but as a Mariners fan I still have to buy all my stuff from the US cos no store stocks anything other than those “popular” teams gear. It’s kinda like a rigged system
@@rustyshackelford4224the Yankees are literally the most recognizable sports team in America 99% of new yorkers wear a yankees hat even if they don't watch baseball
@@rustyshackelford4224we worldwide baby
The World Baseball Classic actually being successful after nearly dying is such a good thing. I really hope this turns into the next big international sporting event that the whole world pays attention to.
Agreed!
The time of FIFA is over…long live the WBC
The Japanese are the best in baseball no way around it. It's just the facts.
Their pitching is amazing.
And probably have the goat in ohtani.
Then it's Jeremy Pena then Mike trout.
The best player In all of baseball is not American.
Nor the best pitcher it's between alcantara or julio.
Usa invented this game but really their not the best.
They always play home with all the advantages it's not fair for the visitors. And still they lose.
Mexico beat them twice in their own house in a baseball classic.
And in 1 they did have their best alex rodriguez,Derek Jeter etc...
So that's just and excuse that they dont send their best in why they don't win.
Ultimately the Japanese would of won anyway again their pitching is simply superior. It's just the facts like I said.
It’s just a pure damn joy
And it exists because baseball was kicked out of the Olympics.
To me, a 40+ year MLB fan (Giants), the WBC is the peak of baseball excitement. A true World Series.
No not really Not if we do not have are best players playing in it.
It’s a world championship game, not a series. Just one game
I see it as a true all star game, sorta.
@@spencerjones9807 true-the baseball version of March Madness lol
Lame
As a Dominican I can tell you that we take our baseball VERY serious, you can see lots of people with their favorite local team's flag all year round, people go out to the streets hitting pans and playing horns when their team wins they actually had to ban horns a couple years ago cuz it was getting so loud and unsanitary, also playing baseball is like the default hobby for young boys here
As an Asian, I was surprised to see comments about how the United States should appreciate the World Baseball Classic more. I just assumed that it would be popular among every baseball fan. This was a very informative video!
I'm a Filipino in Singapore and I wish Baseball would become bigger over here as it is with our other Asian neighbours. (Softball is pretty well known in SG tho. But sports overall is not something that is pushed by society.)
You would think so, except that our American sports media spends practically all of its time covering the NFL and NBA.
International tourneys for team sports are looked down upon in this country. They are treated like some unimportant exhibition akin to the NBA all star game.
Not to mention that MLB's brand of no fun baseball is dying in America.
@@sportscardsandthings Cause less and less people are watching baseball here in the US
I just found out this existed today lol
Singapore is a tiny island (31 miles in diameter/50km). They will never have enough talent or resources dedicated to something like sports.
What i do appreciate about the Japanese is that they want to compete on the international stage and put their best players. MLB will never allow that, unfortunately.
Doesn't help that the seasons literally don't line up and there wouldn't be as much money in it
MLB teams can only stop their players from participating in the WBC if they meet certain injury conditions
Well, if you ran the league. Would you allow your top players go out to compete, get hurt, and likely come back worse? It would hurt viewership. And really, it is not the MLB's fault the International League decides to hold their competition during the season.
Plus, Japanese baseball teams are not like MLB teams. Japanese teams are owned by literal corporations. The team is slapped with the corporate name and logo. And it isn't uncommon for a team to end up with a corporate name change in the middle of the season. And those who manage the team are not always the best fit. A lot of the time, it is seen as a bonus, and for whoever is put into the management role to flaunt around to impress others (manly women). Also, to party and have a good time. Never seriously managing the team.
So this is why Japanese teams can send players to go play on the international stage. It is because they don't play in a very well centralized league. At best, Japanese Baseball is like the Profesional Beer League.
And I know that is a bit of an insult. As I know, Japanese baseball players are insanely good. And do get paid pretty fairly, these days, to play. Just compared to an MLB player. They make pocket change. And I call it a "Beer League" because those put into management roles do not take it seriously or really do not care. It is an image thing. And it is on couching staff to do basically everything. While trying to please the "manager's" whims.
@@Qardo "couching staff" sounds like a position I was born for lol
@@Qardo What a joke. MLB is the most coperate one. Japan follows the US model yet you said they don't care lol.
MLB is the beer league. International baseball is the most pure baseball game out there.
I mean team USA rotation could be absolutely nasty with Burnes, Verlander, Manoah, Cease, Scherzer, etc, but MLB teams/players themselves either want to protect their high price assets or the younger players themselves want to ensure a massive payday. It sucks, but I get it. Cool to see baseball becoming more of a international game.
Cool to see it growing internationally but ultimately sucks to see less and less Americans playing for American teams. American sports leagues should implement a system like the Japanese do where there needs to be a specific number of natural born citizens playing for their leagues.
So many pitchers could replace Manoah and Cease haha
@@dtice69
Ew, no. The best players should be in the MLB regardless of where they come from.
How do you not have Jacob degrom in that list?
@@jj2hostetler108
Because we all know he’s going to throw a no-no against Mexico…and then tear his rotator cuff
I think this year WBC tournament is turning point. USA was invested in this tournament. It was extremely fun to watch. I’m a huge fan now. I hope USA wins next one. Hats off to Japan
US was not invested in this tournament.
Yeah lots of people at my school watched
Being American, I'm so invested in watching the game in the WBC. It's getting more and more important. It might not be as big as the world cup but this is the next best thing.
I feel this is what was needed. As a soccer fan I have to say, international games will always be the most important game. There is no division about which team you face go for, your nation is your team, and nothing brings more pride than seeing your country win every time.
Soccer sucks
@@tooltime4640 not as much as you
@@tooltime4640 american football is dogshit sport lmao
@@Sgt-Toxin The fact you call it soccer says it all. International football is not nearly as important as club football.
I love how much Japan loves baseball. It warms my heart tbh.
It really isn't that popular at the pro level due to having such a small pro league. It's hugely popular at senior high schools, who bring in ringers that they have recruited from all over the country.
Ichiro was a legitimate superstar over there (probably still is to a degree). At least in terms of popularity he’s the Japanese Babe Ruth.
@@warlordofbritannia Not so...the remarkable Sadaharu Oh (mr. Oh) is obviously a player you need to learn about.
@@flamingfrancis
I know who that is-again, I was judging in terms of raw popularity not actual stats
Soccer/Football is also as popular specially after the last world cup
Crazy how popular baseball is all over the world considering it doesn't exist.
what doesn’t exist??
This comment confused then hell out of me.
Underrated comment!
@@poluticon .........he's referring to the name of the channel
@@aubreypassey6086 r/whoosh
I got a 70 dollar ticket to the WBC vs Korea in Tokyo. It was reselling for 1500 bucks. The WBC final in Miami has tickets for 200. That tells you what you need to know about baseball in the US and Japan.
I just saw a Korean vlog about watching the Korea vs Japan WBC 2023 match and he paid 1500$ per ticket for him and his Japanese wife
It’s all about passion. When I was a kid I used to play baseball back in Venezuela EVERY SINGLE DAY. Sometimes we used our fists to hit the ball, other times we used broom sticks with bottle caps. I never saw that kind of passion among Americans. Just look at the atmosphere when South Americans play in the Classic, it’s out of this world. We are crazy about baseball.
It’s like American football in the the American South. It’s like a religion there to them.
Well. Tonight..
@@erikletendre7512 the best game of the whole WBC .
@@lmarquezgiron I thought U ppl played soccer? Er...excuse me "futbol". I didn't know y'all played REAL sports too lol
@@UltraClassicGaming Nah man, Venezuela’s national sport it’s Baseball. It’s a fucking religion
Biggest tournament in soccer is the World Cup, in Cricket its the World Cup, in Rugby its the World Cup. Baseball is a international game, and a tournament like this really has to be top priority for both the MLB and the WBSC.
biggest international basketball tournament is the Olympics. Problem with baseball is that its a summer sport and MLB teams dont want to release players during the season. NBA and college basketball isn't played during July/August when the Olympics are on.
It's the same issue hockey is finding. The NHL doesn't want to release players for the winter Olympics anymore. The players themselves have to want it and demand it from ownership. That's where the NHL tried their own thing like the WBC a number of years back in pre-season. The players demanded to go for the last Olympics, but decided not to for fear of China's COVID quarantine and isolation rules.
The world STOPS their soccer leagues for the world Cup. Heck the world soccer leagues STOP for qualifier and practice windows.
The Japanese are the best in baseball no way around it. It's just the facts.
Their pitching is amazing.
And probably have the goat in ohtani.
Then it's Jeremy Pena then Mike trout.
The best player In all of baseball is not American.
Nor the best pitcher it's between alcantara or julio.
Usa invented this game but really their not the best.
They always play home with all the advantages it's not fair for the visitors. And still they lose.
Mexico beat them twice in their own house in a baseball classic.
And in 1 they did have their best alex rodriguez,Derek Jeter etc...
So that's just and excuse that they dont send their best in why they don't win.
Ultimately the Japanese would of won anyway again their pitching is simply superior. It's just the facts like I said.
All you have to do is figure out how the owners could make money from that.
@@ultrainstinct63 nice bait
06 and 09 WBC got Japanese kids hooked on baseball and those kids are now professional players. Otani is one of them and he has always wanted to participate in the WBC. There is no doubt that the WBC is one of the main reasons to start playing baseball in Japan.
And not only that, the WBC is one of the reasons to look into MLB. Since Japan has a huge popular league called NPB, the attention to MLB has been low (compared to NPB). We didn't even know Yadiel Molina, but since 2013, everyone knows him.
I've been saying this for years and if MLB switches to a similar model to how things are run in European soccer, the interest and viewership will skyrocket. Sure those leagues have their own problems, but if you show a random kid at an American mall a photo of Messi or Ronaldo, they'll easily recognize them compared to Trout and Betts.
Doubt a kid in America will recognize Messi or Ronaldo over Trout or Betts.
@@josephsimmons9241 you’d be surprised
What do u mean by “similiar model” ?
@@josephsimmons9241 dude it’s not even a competition. Everyone knows Soccer players
The only baseball players I’d recognize would be Ruth & Tatis Jr. ones a legend, the other cause of controversy (well Tbf I think I’d recognize some of the Padres players like Manny and the cool WBC players now but in a year? Idk.)
@@StripedJacket not Americans
And this is why I’ve always been so intrigued by the nippon league, Japanese baseball overall, but what I admire most is the baseball fans in Japan.
Check out ebbets field they have the best apparel from that league actually made me a fan before I watched a pitch in that league
@Karl with a K and what about television? You saw in the video how many tuned in. They care more.
The Japanese are the best in baseball no way around it. It's just the facts.
Their pitching is amazing.
And probably have the goat in ohtani.
Then it's Jeremy Pena then Mike trout.
The best player In all of baseball is not American.
Nor the best pitcher it's between alcantara or julio.
Usa invented this game but really their not the best.
They always play home with all the advantages it's not fair for the visitors. And still they lose.
Mexico beat them twice in their own house in a baseball classic.
And in 1 they did have their best alex rodriguez,Derek Jeter etc...
So that's just and excuse that they dont send their best in why they don't win.
Ultimately the Japanese would of won anyway again their pitching is simply superior. It's just the facts like I said.
Do they eat hotdogs at baseball games?
@@ultrainstinct63 I would say Dominican Republic is also one of the best baseball countries next to japan.
As a Puerto Rican, this definitely means a lot to the players and especially the fans because we are proud to be from our island and baseball is literally part of our culture. And the players on the team love every second and will be hyped up After every play
If you’re so proud to be from your island. Why leave for America?
@@gbrown8523 One thing has nothing to do with the other
@@gbrown8523 what does that have to do with anything?
Baseball games in Japan f-ing suck. The cheering is robotic and constant. It isn't even in regards to what is happening in the damned game. Moronic. Americans like to cheer good play, no matter which side. In Japan it's these groups of fans showing up and just making noise all the time.
@@gbrown8523 Do you know Puerto Ricans are Americans? What are you doing in America ? You should be in Europe
WBC went from irrelevant, a joke, to "pretty fun" after America won it, is the most American reaction possible. Hopefully the WBC can expand baseball to even more international audience and keep baseball relevant in American sport.
I grew up in Puerto Rico. Baseball has been a thing for us since the early 1900s. First Latin hall of famer was a Puerto Rican. We used to play baseball during lunch time at school with tennis balls and our fist. We played in the neighborhood with broom sticks. Pretty much all my friends played baseball since we were 5yrs old. It’s in our blood
As a Dominican, I love this!
Never realized the talent level in Japan. That's crazy.
Yep. Baseball is the true national sport of Japan and has been for decades now, since right before WWII.
The Nippon League is probably Quad A quality, despite the severely limited talent pool.
Prob the Nippon League is the 2nd best league in the world behind MLB. I can assure you that in that league a least a couple of hundred japanese players could enter to the MLB, the real reason imo is that japanese athletes like to play more in their country than in others. the only ones who go to MLB is more to test themselves than anything.
It's been that way for a long time
@@dallio900 The ones who come abroad are doing to measure themselves to the pile of superstars here. The fact MLB backups often either are starters or fail to find playing time in Japan says there's a lot of solid MLB quality players in Japan although remarkably few of them are superstars.
Japanese baseball is more fun to watch imo
MLB doesn't even seem to want Americans to watch baseball with all the blackout restrictions & extra financial steps needed. I'm a local Braves fan about to enter my third year of watching pirated streams because Bally Sports won't make a deal with UA-camTV.
Damn shame, but I respect you getting it done. 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Bally is worse than China
I know the feeling as an Astros fan. I remember in the 90's watching baseball in my local channels for free and then one day we had to make a channel exclusively for the Houston Astros and Houston Rockets because of deals blocking games for streams during home games. How crazy is that?
I used to be a huge Twins fan but haven't watched a game in years and have no idea how to even find them on tv. Its sad.
Got any links to those streams ? I’m looking to watch baseball but everything asks for a cable provider.
Watching this after coming back from watching the horrible loss Mexico gave to the US at Chase Stadium, it genuinely proves it. 11 to 5, fricken crazy man. The stadium was packed though and it was still a good time lol 😆.
Anyway, the US is in the final now, haha
@@IRanOutOfPhrases 11-5
@@Lol-ic8ee Huh?
Mexico beat USA in baseball and USA beat Mexico at soccer
This is crazy I'm literally watching this 2 hours after Japan and Ohtani beat the US on the final.
I need to see Ohtani vs Trout
I’m sure we’ll see plenty of that starting next season
Ohtani is the better overall player
@@eddieshane4175 not a chance.
@@Hazesorry big chance! Trout is a over rated player IMO
@@Hazesorry lol. Trout was literally irrelevant last 2 seasons 😅
A big part of the decline of US baseball is the select/travel system in place at the youth level. It’s become rife with politics and also requires a pretty significant money investment as well. This has caused a lot of talented athletes to choose different sports. This system is supposed to foster high level competition, which it definitely does, but it also causes the game to miss out on a lot of great talent.
It will be interesting to see if a MLB linked academy system gets adopted in the US like there is for soccer who suffers from similar issues
@@fizzedball7078 that would be interesting for sure. I think if they really care about creating US born players they need to institute a system like the football academies in Europe and South America. At least that way they’d get proper training/coaching. It seems like the main goal of select teams is getting their kids scholarships or possibly making the major while many of those teams lack the proper guidance to develop those players.
Travel ball system definitely alienated folks I knew people who were excellent players that left baseball because of travel ball and other bureaucracy in youth baseball. I played varsity baseball on HS in the 9th grade but some one my friends who were better than me went into wrestling,basketball,football instead of HS baseball or even sports like soccer.
@@fizzedball7078 I think u.s soccer academies are getting better the L.A galaxy is sending guys to barca now and other european clubs. The salary cap in MLS is what is crippling the league they have the money now they got to spend like euro clubs to develop world class talent.
@@fizzedball7078 Soccer is more popular than baseball in America or at least growing faster than baseball
Watching Dominican baseball is so much fun. It's utter chaos, and the players treat every game like it's game 7 of the world series. Unmatched atmosphere.
Just found this after the US team got beat 11-5 by Mexico
I’m a huge WBC fan. Last tournament was so much fun man. And the fact we won the whole shibang was awesome man. It was edge of seat baseball every game
Sports are only ever interesting and meaningful on some kind of an ethnic basis. As MLB tries to become as foreign as possible to me as an American, I will inevitably become less and less interested in it, because I simply don't care that much about foreign players on a team that's supposed to be local to me in some way that I can understand. Sports is a metaphor for war, so celebrating the MLB being filled with foreign players is just like rooting for the wrong country.
They're always moaning also about how MLB hasn't been taken over by blacks as the NBA and NFL have. Well, blacks as a whole clearly aren't the best at baseball. Investing in the inner city doesn't seem to pay off that much. They would clearly get better returns by investing in England, Germany, Netherlands, Australia. Or even American suburbs, how about that? Those are untapped economic markets, and those peoples are historically the best baseball players. Even if they were the 4th best I'd rather watch them.
Nothing like international games
@@guyincognito320I wish more american baseball players go to WBC to represent America
@Mago de oz I like the World Cup, not league football. I imagine in 100 years the WBC will have long since eclipsed MLB which is run poorly. They make foreign players dress up in old timey clothes and play in a corn field. Then they ban Bauer for two years because he was falsely accused of rape by some piece of crap prostitute because he supports Trump on social media or something. Or because he says obviously true things about the game and its management, and reaches out to fans better than MLB ever has or will. Bauer is the most important player of this generation, and these cretins banned him for two years.
How is Puerto Rico competing against us I thought they were part of this country.
After watching Japan play today i just have to say how different the atmosphere is. Its crazy and i love it.
Football took over America
They are persecuted for having national pride
@@mangomangay7747 so?
I hope WBC gets more love in the US. It should feel like the baseball World Cup where everyone wants to play at.
Yep, I hate how it gets no coverage.
US is so obsessed with its self no wonder it gets no coverage there
I hope it’s get coverage too. But the problem is that people dont care. They have too many options here in the states for entertainment
@@LOLxUnique This is probably part of it, but surprisingly the US can do international sports coverage pretty well. You will see a lot of coverage of top foreign athletes and events the US has no chance to win during the Olympics.
I think a big part of the WBC’s problem is that it doesn’t work like the World Cup. During the WC, the entire soccer world comes to a total stop, there isn’t any other high level soccer on anywhere except for the WC. The event is also hosted by a single country (or sometimes a couple of neighboring countries). This means that fans can basically spend the whole month hopping from stadium to stadium watching as many games as they can, but it also adds a certain intangible feeling that makes each tournament special. Everyone in the soccer world remembers Italia ‘90 or South Africa 2010 or the infamous Qatar 2022.
If the WBC wants to really be the World Cup of baseball (which I think it should), it needs to actually work like a World Cup.
Man this videos already not aging well. The boys just made Cuba look like a little league team.
And Japan won again, if they had a good pitcher the US could had done way better
I love that when US wins against themself they claim "World champions", then they actually make a world championship, and cant win, then they wanna cancel it and its suddenly just a practice tournament.. what a joke
Anything that grows baseball internationally, I'm for it.
Will you be for it if the MLB turns out like the NBA now whereby they sell out their own country to China?? Riddle me that.
Why?
@@bloodwrage wdym do you not want to grow the game??
@@dee8518 No. "Growing the game" usually just means it becomes more commercialized. That's how you wind up with tenth inning ghost runners
@@bloodwrage did you watch this years postseason? 18 inning games aren’t fun for anyone
It's basically USA vs Greece 2006 all over again.
Different game same result.
America has this league superiority complex that translates in undermining international competitions, with few exceptions.
But at the same time it's interesting to see that Italy baseball team is basically a proud detachment of New Jersey.
Junior Soprano would be proud.
NFL and Basketball own USA
Lets tell the truth here...Please take what is said at face value...THE MAIN REASON THIS IS THE CASE...is because SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BLACK AMERICANS ARE PLAYING BASEBALL..the past two decades. The shift is happening again recently (4 of the 5 top 5 pics in 2022 mlb draft were black americans). If the world baseball classic existed in the 70's through early- mid 90s US would've won (hank aaron, eddie murray, Ozzie smith, willie randolph, barry bonds, Dwight Gooden, bo jackson, Gary Sheffield, ken griffey jr, tony gwynn, devon white, bary larkin, etc) Just look at the all star game lineups in the 80's and 90's
Israel had a team in this and their players were largely from you-can-guess-where.
@@digitalhistorian7786 Are they going more into Football?
@@digitalhistorian7786 no it’s not they’ll win again soon enough
The 2023 WBC was the first WBC I've ever been invested to and I couldn't get enough of it. This was the best WBC in history and I cannot WAIT for the next one.
Lmao now they’re in the finals for a seccond straight time
It would be embarrassing if they didnt when its the sport americans invented. and even then Japan now have the new babe ruth and are 3 titles to 1 over america
I am from Venezuela and I can say there are a lot of differences. I live in Kentucky and have for the past 10 years or so. I am not sure how it is in other states like Texas, Florida, and Arizona. In Venezuela, you get more focus on learning techniques and developing players. It is more about learning how to play than playing itself. When I played in college here you could tell the contrast. It was just scrimmaging and a little bit of conditioning. The same seems to be the case for high schools here from one kid I have helped coach. Seems like if you want to get actually coached to improve as a player you have to pay extra for that. Also in the USA athletic superiority is rewarded while in countries like Venezuela that is also rewarded but so is developing your skills. That is how guys like Altuve exist. When I was coming up it was not unusual to be coached by a former professional player or someone who went to the academies and they would bring that knowledge with them. Also, Latin American players don't care about not getting paid millions at first. When you get drafted down there you become a hero in your community. Also, the conversion rate can allow you to buy a house with a few thousand dollars, the minimum wage in Venezuela is a few dollars a month. Whereas if you are an American drafted here you have a higher cost of living and 15,000 bucks won't get you anywhere, that is not even minimum wage here.
I've been a diehard baseball fan for basically my entire life and this is the first year I've went outta my way to watch the WBC, so it's definitely something different this time around. I'm getting ready to watch the 11pm game right now and planning to wake up at 5am for the Korea vs Japan game. Every game has been good so far.
I remember watching a U.S. vs. Korea game--I think it was in a WBC--and learning that if we won our players would get a trophy or such and if the Koreans won they would get exempted from having to do their mandatory military conscription. The incentives didn't seem equal LOL.
Indeed, there is something different this time. I'm from Venezuela and in this edition, the whole country is thrilled with our team, myself included despite not being a baseball fan. I don't recall Venezuela ever being so passionate about the WBC. I love this! This now actually feels like a true baseball world tournament.
Well this thumbnail didn't age well. USA is in the final
MLB wanted to cancel it because they couldn't win it????!!!! LoooooL
I never knew how big baseball was in Japan or in any other Country, I'm not that knowledgeable on baseball in general but hearing how stacked each country is to compete in the WBC makes me wanna watch it myself this year. Definitely keeping an eye on this.
Can someone explain to me how Puerto Rico has its own team?
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music It is a US territory and not a US State.
@@flamingfrancis So if it's part of the U.S. how is it competing against the U.S.? They're U.S. citizens.
@@flamingfrancis So why doesn't the District of Columbia compete against the U.S. in international sports?
They have enough of a distinct identity - and fanaticism towards baseball - that it would make hardcore Texans cry by comparison. Subnational territories having their own national teams is nothing new. Did you not notice the Pool Team USA was in at the World Cup had 2 teams from the island of Great Britain?
Damn Ichiro was wildin' in the WBC loll
Bro said he wanted to end their whole career
@@Windjammer19
Their whole country
It’s just a Japan vs Korea thing it goes back hundreds of years 😂
True that. I had never seen Ichiro displaying any emotion whatsoever. He might have even cursed *gasp*.
@@d.g4466 Yeah, but the Japanese were usually the perpetrators so it's perplexing that he'd be the one with a chip on his shoulder.
Well, we'll see on Tuesday 😎
omfg this wbc has been crazy and I’ve been enjoying every minute of it. From PR hair bleaching antics to the fans straight up calling over the umpire in the USA- Mexico game. HILARIOUS 😂😂😂
This video made me realize Americans simply don't care at all about international sports competitions. In *any* sport. Whereas, most other countries care a lot about their national team in *every* sport. It's weird, and I never realized it until now.
unless it's the Olympics( they do very well in the summer )
or the Fifa World cup (even though their team is not as good as other countries)
It’s super weird huh, especially since we all believe Americans are extremely patriotic
I find it weird tbh
If you’re the best it shouldn’t be a problem with competing with others
Especially if it is a sport we don’t dominate in internationally.
it’s because, as i see it as an american, the us is barely even a country. to use football (soccer) as an example, most americans support the national team of their heritage, not even the us team.
pretty much the only americans that view themselves as american are white americans of british, scandinavian, german, or french descent with roots in the us going back to the 18th century. outside of that group a lot of americans don’t even view themselves as american.
Korea and Japan ABSOLUTELY HATE eachother....but they both really really LOVE baseball. So the WBC is the perfect forum for this to play out.
Baseball has been getting worse in this country for a long time. When was the last time you drove past a vacant lot and saw kids out there playing a pick up game? If you are in Cuba or the Dominican Republic you will see this every day. Also, when I was a kid, if you wanted to play little league then you simply showed up on the day of try outs. These days you have to sign up months ahead of time and your parents have to pay some big bucks for your spot on the team.
It's no wonder baseball is failing, especially in the black community where grabbing a basketball and shooting some hoops is a lot easier
13:08 As a Twins fan this made me laugh and cry at the same time
I didn't know there were any Twins fans actually
💯😄
@@TroysSweetCornhole I'm a minnesota dude
@@TroysSweetCornhole there are dozens of us
@@poopmcgee2410 twins fan number 17 checking in
The problem about sports in the US is we put capital above pride in country. And let’s be honest here, in those other countries who act like WBC is actual war, baseball is the most popular sport by far. Here in America the majority of people couldn’t even tell you who Mike Trout is. We just have a lot going on in the US. Your attention can only be on so many things. In some of the Latin countries it’s pretty much all that’s actually going on, in life and sports.
Tbh that’s neither good or bad
To some degree, true. While baseball has been played in Australia for around 170 years, it is very much in minority and kids / adults have choices you have not heard of like surf lifesaving for example. We pull well above our weight in terms of number of MLB players produced and also that, despite the huge distances involved, we have had a national champonship tournament since WW2. The sport attracts little media attention which does not help growth.
I agree. The US has the premier baseball league, football, hockey, and basketball. Many countries have 1 maybe 2 leagues to watch and both are not the same level as the US, maybe 1 is, maybe.
@@j.c.spencer9897 Although the points in the video were correct, Japan overall is still not even close to being as big and as high-skill of a player in baseball as MLB, Or for now at least.
“In some Latin it’s pretty much all that’s actually going on.”
This comment would be laughable if it weren’t so breathtakingly ignorant. I am Dominican, and I can assure you, every country has a lot of bs going on 24/7. The difference is, except for a few big cities that are considered “baseball capitals” like NY, Boston and LA, Americans have largely abandoned baseball.
Under every baseball post all you will see if a bunch of American trolls complaining about how “boring” it is. Americans have become so addicted to instant satisfaction and constant non stop stimulation. Baseball is more tense and exciting than football and basketball in my opinion, but you have to actually pay attention, which is hard for Americans of millennial ages and under.
In Dominican Republic, it’s practically a religion and part of our culture. Basketball is becoming popular as well but baseball is in our blood. Everyone, women, men, children, watch baseball regularly. Kids play baseball with sticks and bottle caps. We love baseball.
For us, baseball is a way for a very few to pay for college. For some kid in Cuba or the DR it’s the ONLY WAY out of absolute, generational poverty. The motivations are very different.
Truth
American kids are playing basketball now. I've worked at a school for seven years and the number of kids who can even name a single baseball player is miniscule. They laugh when I tell them my favorite sports team is a baseball team
I'm from Argentina and your channel made me interested in baseball. A sport I considered boring a few weeks ago. Your videos are top notch!
You have to play it, it's a great sport to play. Watch TrueRGM's channel in October for post season baseball in awesome consensed game format.
But this channel is trying to convince you that baseball doesn't exist.
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music I believe in God.
@@andresgirardo8481 Can God throw a 103 mph fastball?
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music he can steal third base while standing on first.
The fact that half of Japan watched the game more or less is crazy I never would have known great video
@Karl with a K I- where did you get these stats?
I do agree that seats are too expensive but c'mon
Honestly it’s so good that this mutualistic relationship between the mlb and the south American/Central American has happened… the amount of money that goes back to those countries when via the organizations themselves is already incredibly helpful… the money that goes back from the players that fully make it(cause lets be honest even them making it to the minors now is a huge financial difference than it used to be) just exponentially makes it better… like the cherry on top
I'm glad to see the World Baseball Classic becoming relevant again
I absolutely love the fact that baseball is becoming a worldwide game. I think it's great for the sport to have talent coming in from all over the world. I'll always cheer for the US on an international stage, but I love seeing the success of other countries too.
baseball is not growing right now if anything its following a steep decline.
@@propertymanager9149 Well the MLB is
It shows America's influence on the world.
The UAE now has a baseball ⚾ league
Played baseball for 20 years and still learn something new on every video you post. Always a good day when you post, keep it up.
How far did you get?
@@leonscottkennedy3143 probably D3 college ball
The Japanese are the best in baseball no way around it. It's just the facts.
Their pitching is amazing.
And probably have the goat in ohtani.
Then it's Jeremy Pena then Mike trout.
The best player In all of baseball is not American.
Nor the best pitcher it's between alcantara or julio.
Usa invented this game but really their not the best.
They always play home with all the advantages it's not fair for the visitors. And still they lose.
Mexico beat them twice in their own house in a baseball classic.
And in 1 they did have their best alex rodriguez,Derek Jeter etc...
So that's just and excuse that they dont send their best in why they don't win.
Ultimately the Japanese would of won anyway again their pitching is simply superior. It's just the facts like I said.
@@ultrainstinct63 yeah no that’s just wrong but go off bro
Lets tell the truth here...Please take what is said at face value...THE MAIN REASON THIS IS THE CASE...is because SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BLACK AMERICANS ARE PLAYING BASEBALL..the past two decades. The shift is happening again recently (4 of the 5 top 5 pics in 2022 mlb draft were black americans). If the world baseball classic existed in the 70's through early- mid 90s US would've won (hank aaron, Dave Parker, eddie murray, Ozzie smith, willie randolph, barry bonds, Dwight Gooden, bo jackson, Gary Sheffield, ken griffey jr, tony gwynn, devon white, bary larkin, etc) Just look at the all star game lineups in the 80's and 90's. It's the Elephant in the room. MLB baseball was at its peak when more Black Americans were in the league in the late 60s- late 90s
I have an Ichiro story for the 2009 WBC. I usually refer to it as the "time Ichiro almost got me killed". in 2009, I lived in Beijing, in Wudakou, which is pretty much where many of the universities are located, so there are many intl students. At the time I lived near a korean restaurant called "熊家餐厅" that was frequented by many intl students, especially, koreans and korean salarymen. I lived in one of those old apartment buildings across from it with my Japanese roommate, very well educated and knowledgeable on the past things his country had done in the name of imperialism. Yes, you know where this story is going.
The restaurant normally opened during lunch time, but because of the time difference opened extra early and let the yanjing beer, soju, sake, 二锅头 flow at 9am ish. since the game was played 6 or 7pm back stateside. My roommate and I had classes that morning but we were free late morning and really wanted to watch the final match. By the time we had arrived, that restaurant which I bet usually held max of 70-80 people was closer to 150 capacity, raucous, loud, and full of alcohol, I can remember the metal kegs just not even put out near the front door, they were legitimately just parked near the front entrance. Majority of the drunk were of course koreans, singing, swearing and just alcohol being spilled left and right. A few were expats from other countries, just wanting to be part of the moment, some Americans of course.
As it was getting to the 9th inning, Ichiro was at bat in one of the most cliché styles, and it was I believe a full count. The korean pitcher threw what seemed like a straight fastball down the middle, one of those moments of, you're either going to swing and miss or hit it and you're winning. It was a classic showdown of like two gunslingers about to draw, go watch it on youtube, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Ichiro in dramatic fashion hits it and has his teammates run for home plate as he gets on base, the classic Ichiro hit where the infielders cant get to the ball and neither can the outfielders. With Japan scoring and Korea practically losing this wbc finals, my roommate, in quick lack of judgment (and of the history he is so well versed on), decides to yell in a place packed full of pissed and drunk koreans, "Nippon Bansai!" or in chinese writing “日本万岁！" . Now, this has several connotations: 1. a gesture of celebration and/or chant, because translated it does mean "Japan, 10,000 years" or long live japan (think of it as we Americans chanting "USA! USA! USA!" 2. and perhaps the more important travesty is than the word "bansai" brings up negative images of the past when you know Japanese soldiers went on massive murderous sprees of fixing bayonets and charging and committing acts of genocidal atrocity. Think of what the Japanese soldiers used to do when they would charge american marines known as the "bansai charge".
Knowing the faux pas my roommate just committed,his face turned white as the many Koreans in that fine establishment threw a combination of curse words at us in korean and chinese, "shibal" "cao ni ma!" " qu si!" "日本鬼子去你妈！“ and what not. I have never reached for my money so fast to throw on the table, grabbed my roommate and booked it out of there as bottles were being thrown at us and whatever other plates and hot grill pans for the korean bbq. We ran out, kicked the bikes/scooters over so they would be able to ride it, got on ours and rode as hard as possible in our honda clone 125cc scooter. All throughout that speed and torque in which the 125xx motor was straining, was my Japanese roommate apologizing profusely, and me swearing up and down about how much of an idiot he was.
We didn't get back until later that night when things had died down and i drove to my apartment compound and parked the scooter and we went back safely to our apartment.
I'll never forget that time as well as that korean restaurant. It still is one of my all time favorite places to eat. the owner, this korean lady, was the one who taught me how to cook dokdoritang and kimchi jiggae. as for my wife, she was my girlfriend back then, she really enjoyed that place because she was a big fan of their korean cold noodle dish, perfect for a hot summer. I had many good memories of this place, As for my roommate, he never stepped foot in that restaurant again.
Well this didn’t age well
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absolutely love japanese and korean baseball culture.. it's my dream to watch a game in one of these countries
You should aldo check out Taiwanese baseball. It's pretty cool.
Been going to baseball games for over 20 years. I went to the USA/Japan semifinal game at Dodger Stadium in 2017 and it was probably the most fun I've had at a baseball game.
To think the Japanese squad was weaker than their Olympics and Premier12 rosters made you think "damn". (Oh yeah, the weaker squad still consist of dynamite arms which went to MLB like Fujinami, Senga, and Hirano, plus the submariner Makita).
I respect your comment because if you've been going to baseball games for over 20 years then you've probably had sex during a baseball game.
This didn’t age well
My Puerto Rican coworkers were really into it this year. As an American with a congressman I found that endearing, but it makes sense. It's the world cup but for baseball.
I was at the Us vs Japan game in 2017 and that atmosphere was electric. Best game I’ve ever been to.
There is general hype for this tourney and I love to see it
Baseball is by far one of the more expensive sports for parents in the U.S. to maintain (not even counting special training/coaches/camps). Equip, uniforms, league fees. Etc. With other sports at least by the time they get to middle school/Jr. High- the schools take on the expense leaving practically little to none to parents but baseball is also usually not offered at all at this level in school. Which causes alot of baseball players to naturally shift to football/basketball. A lot of former little leaguers do jump back into baseball at HS level but obviously some or most have not played since before middle school so talent isnt as strong. So u only get a handful of players in big scheme whove had the luxory of being able to play every year from tee ball through Highschool who also play select, get afforded special training & camps etc.
Makes me wonder why so much is invested by MLB to other countries for facilities and professional training instead of back into the U.S to spare parents here and keep kids here pursuing, engaged & playing baseball who always end up playing football but always say baseball was their #1 sport. Especially minority kids who were talented at baseball but end up in football due to lack of financial resources. I'm not saying that MLB has not invested in the United States but it would be interesting to see a comparison of investments in our own country versus investments in rest of world. And I'm not saying we shouldn't be investing in other countries either but are we giving ourselves a chance or rather our own kids a chance?
As a Canadian the Japan Korea final in 2009 was the best ball game ever (imo)
massive rivalry between the countries and good level of playing. The two irrenounceable ingredients to a great game.
Ichiro has always been viewed as a polite guy, that did not talked much and let his bat speak for him. But there was a game vs Korea once that the koreans won, and planted their flag on the pitching mound.
I don't know how to speak japanease, but when a guy is swearing you know it. Ichiro was spitting fire in the dugout
This guy is criminally underrated. It's travesty how few subscribers this guy has.
I remember when this channel only had a thousand and a half, way back with the first Greinke video.
@@warlordofbritannia a favorite of mine.
who’s here after they’re in the final? lol
it's incredible how badly Team USA embarassed themselves just three days after this video was uploaded
True, but at least they rebounded the next day.
@@jackhampton2062 nothing personell, kid
USA has 118 world series, with 117 back to back titles
It's crazy how I've never really watched or cared about baseball but the videos on this channel always manage to hold my interest lol. Keep up the good work!
Nah. Not crazy. Not “crazy.” /
The MLB is seeing the same thing that the English Premier league saw with soccer.
Great players were coming up internationally, and the english clubs started picking them up to bolster their teams
About to play Cuba for a chance at the finals
Baseball is the number one sport in all of these countries (besides the Netherlands) baseball was a tradition in the United States, and then football took over, because baseball lost popularity in the states, the MLB needed to go international to keep popular, and they’ve struck gold
Best you check on that, it is not #1 in several nations represented at this WBC.
Seems like only in the native land of this great sport do you find people who say it's "boring." Good for Japan, Dominican and Korea, they deserve their success.
This didn’t age well bro USA just beat Cuba 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ichiro saying Korea smelled like garlic had to be the burn of the century.
I love baseball doesn’t exist❤
Who doesn’t love him
Me too
Same, he's one of the best UA-camrs discussing this sport right now
Between BDE, iTalk Studios, and Jomboy, they’ve turned me into a huge baseball fan.
the intros are so intense in a good way. One of the best youtube channels, lucky for us, it's only dedicated to the great game
What I learn from this video:
1 Ichiro is a Mad man.
2 Don't visit Japan or South Korea during WBC.
3 Japan runs out of water during WBC.
4 Visit Puerto Rico during the WBC because it becomes the safest place on earth.
Kids aren’t growing up playing baseball like 80’s and 90s everybody in us wants to play basketball and football
One of the main trends I see is US players tend to need more time in minors but foreign players come up and peak much earlier (position players at least). However many of the top foreign born players seem to have an earlier/sharper decline. It's as if they are more prepared but have been overworking since they were children (and let's face it some just get their big payday and lose focus)
That's been a big thing especially in Japan. The players are overworked to the Nth degree. That's why they have such a sharp decline so early, and why they are more injury prone
WBC games definitely have a different feeling from MLB, I'd love to see international baseball grow and become kinda like international cricket
You will find that there were more qualification games from nations that are not represented at the WBC than there are for any Cricket WC. Cricket's popularity is mostly attributable to the presence of India (1.3 + billion) and Pakistan (230 million). CWC has maybe five competitive nations but look at the outcome of games in this WBC.
@@flamingfrancis that's true, but what I mean is that in cricket, playing for your country is generally the most important aspect of becoming pro, in baseball it hasn't always been like that but it seems like going in that direction
@@danielsalas3394This is mostly because in baseball the league appeared first while in cricket the league appeared much later.
Had a guy tell me baseball is by far the least diverse sport and that the commissioner and General Managers are racist. I told him I don't see any Japanese, Mexican, Korean or Cuban basketball or football players. Bro needs to watch this video.
Exactly.
Then you are not looking. There are multiple Japanese players in the NBA and basketball is more global than baseball. The dude you are talking about is wrong however. Baseball is very diverse as well. Morons love to talk just to talk.
@@Ayo601 NBA: composed of 74.4 percent black players, 23.3 percent white players, 1.8 percent Latino players, and 0.2 percent Asian players
MLB: White - 57.5%
Hispanic - 31.9%
Black - 7.7%
Asian/Other - 2.9%
I don't watch baseball. But this channel is great.
Sees Team USA tearing in up in the WBC
Yeah video checks out :P
Because it's too expensive to play organized sports in America. In all other countries every kid gets a chance to play just to see if their any good and if they are they are sponsored by the organization. In America if you can't afford to join an organization you can't play
The World Cup of baseball 🏆
Update. USA back to the finals. We still compete with the Elite 🤝
Thanks to this video, I have been convinced to equate all of Ichiro's NPB hits as the same as all of Pete Rose's MLB hits. Good job. 👍
I think NPB is roughly equivalent to a Quad A League, something like only ten percent worse
They always were. All hail the true hit king
The Japanese are the best in baseball no way around it. It's just the facts.
Their pitching is amazing.
And probably have the goat in ohtani.
Then it's Jeremy Pena then Mike trout.
The best player In all of baseball is not American.
Nor the best pitcher it's between alcantara or julio.
Usa invented this game but really their not the best.
They always play home with all the advantages it's not fair for the visitors. And still they lose.
Mexico beat them twice in their own house in a baseball classic.
And in 1 they did have their best alex rodriguez,Derek Jeter etc...
So that's just and excuse that they dont send their best in why they don't win.
Ultimately the Japanese would of won anyway again their pitching is simply superior. It's just the facts like I said.
The thing to remember about Japan is that they have been amazing at baseball for decades. It is just absurdly difficult for Japanese players to transition to the MLB in their prime. Americans are typically naval gazers, so they think that the NPG must be a notable step down from the MLB, but that is nonsense. The majority of the players in the NPG are MLB caliber.
I jus commented on how I vaguely remember being at the 96 Olympics in Atlanta and seeing Japan just demolish USA like 20 to 2 or something with the best players to ever play in American History
@@Megatron_James_Brady8121 Baseball at the Olympics in 1996 was amateurs-only. The US got beat 8-10 by Cuba in the Groups, beat Japan 15-5 in Groups, then lost 11 to 2 to Japan in the semi-finals. Not at all "best players in American history".
Do we really have to resort to throwing around insults?
As a Cuban I can only say Thank you 😢 so much information
USA isn’t getting worse at baseball😂 if anything we’re getting better and better. We’re about to make the WBC championship that includes the ENTIRE WORLD. Meaning not only did we win the last WBC but we are bound to win another one. Oh yeah, and our lineup to me might be one of the best lineups I’ve ever seen
hahah the new babe ruth is from japan closing the game on us soil and make it 3 titles to 1.
I remember people said baseball is dead but it's very popular in Japan and Asia especially if Japan is getting 30% of its population watching a Shohei hit two home runs then its still alive
The japanese people i know in america absolutely adore watching mlb purely to cheer on anyone japanese lol,, the baseball culture in japan is also very lively and its great to see that support!!
@@JM-uw8vz that's because those other teams are trash bro haha
The Japanese are the best in baseball no way around it. It's just the facts.
Their pitching is amazing.
And probably have the goat in ohtani.
Then it's Jeremy Pena then Mike trout.
The best player In all of baseball is not American.
Nor the best pitcher it's between alcantara or julio.
Usa invented this game but really their not the best.
They always play home with all the advantages it's not fair for the visitors. And still they lose.
Mexico beat them twice in their own house in a baseball classic.
And in 1 they did have their best alex rodriguez,Derek Jeter etc...
So that's just and excuse that they dont send their best in why they don't win.
Ultimately the Japanese would of won anyway again their pitching is simply superior. It's just the facts like I said.
@@ultrainstinct63 wrong. Mike Trout is still the best position player in baseball. Only thing that puts ohtani on the same level/above is the pitching. Also, there is simply no way that a guy with one good season is better than a man with three MVP awards and three more 2nd place finishes in MVP.
Best pitcher you can argue for a whole lot of guys. Degrom, Verlander, Scherzer, Julio, Sandy, Cole.
You have not provided facts at all. Only opinions.
Why are these Asians playing baseball?
I love bde it has some of the best content on MLB I've seen in a while
it's a shame that the tournament is not taken more seriously by some