Those high frame rails saved my life. I was in a bad accident 20 years ago. Had a 1993 Vette and was clobbered by a drunk driver at very high speed. My Vette was obliterated into fiberglass dust. A combination of the seatbelt locking up and those high frame rails is what saved my life.
I'm near 70 years with a bad foot, and a fused neck,I still manage getting in and out of my 87 rag top, easier with top-down. getting in is fairly easy as I have the gravity assist entry option, unfortunately, it works against you getting out, some folks seem mildly amused at my egress methods, though one guy(my age) while chuckling added,"don't worry,I have even more trouble getting out of mine. It is reassuring to know you have plenty of frame around you,I just agreed to buy a '95 coupe to give the 87 a stablemate, and for whatever reason, it seems much easier to get out of. My 87 has the added cables for the hood release, they work well, I will have to replace the hood opening cylinder, as it does not help any more, and that sexy big hood is HEAVY!
The reason for the high frame rails is that the car did not have T tops with the center part of the roof the cars top came completely off there fore structural strength for the car required the higher door sills I own a '89 my father owned a '89 that he bought brand new and he explained this to me
@@chrisbudai409 That's right and the reason for the bolts instead of latches on the targa top. I think the top carries some torsional load. The car seems stiffer with the top in place.
I was a Corvette tech in a dealership.I can't tell you how many times I had to show owners how to release the parking brake on a C4.The top not getting latched and flying off was also common and it would cost them $1400 for that mistake.Knowledge of the car you drive is a must.
Thank you for the video. My brother had nearly that exact Vette when he died in 06 of cancer. Same year, color etc. Only difference is his seats and other minor interior pieces were caramel colored. We had to let it go later on 07. Lots of great memories with that car. When you showed the shot of the frame rails I was hit with the memory of the smell of his C4. Brings up a lot of emotions. Especially it being the same color.
Nice job on the video. I have a 1993 Ruby Red 40th Anniversary Edition C4. When these cars were manufactured they were way ahead of their time and are still competitive and a blast today.
Great video. I would also add the headlight gears. I would think most C4 owners have to go through this at some point in time. I spent the extra money to upgrade to brass headlight gears instead of the stock nylon. Works great with no failures. Those nylon gears are crap.
FYI Get a flat piece of metal bent in an “L” shape that battery can sit on . Make sure it’s wide enough to fully cover the side of the battery. The way a thief steals those cars is Jamming an ice pick thru the panel an into the battery. It drains the battery which allows thief to pick up the car and tow it away without the alarm triggering.
I find it totally amazing how so many people say a C4 is hard to enter and exit. REALLY ? simple you turn backwards putt your butt on the seat and swings your legs in.. exit reverse procedure .. It is that bloody easy... As for the top, O i TOTALLY agree, they could have done better.. But i love my C4..
I have sat in a C4 before and I totally get why the high rails were nixed for the C5 as it is a common complaint of Corvette owners that they had to do body gymnastics to get in and out of the C4. Given the typical demographics of these cars it would make sense they would address this in the C5. However, I think that is part of the charm of the C4 because you feel lower and this makes it feel more like a cockpit where you lose that to a degree in the C5. If you compare a C4 to a C7 the layout does feel rather similar in how snug you fit when you are seated.
I LOVE THE PHILIPPINES I agree. It's not that hard. Move the seat all the way back and just sit on the frame rail and slide in that way. I also put my left hand on the bottom bolster and slide on the back of my hand to minimize wear on the leather. Works well.
Thank you, so glad someone else knows this and actually this is the proper way to enter any vehicle unless it sits too high to do so as it will save wear and tear on your seat edges from your backside rubbing them every time you enter and exit the vehicle.
No the government was try to change rules on removable tops. They stopped making convertibles for a few years because the government was considering banning them. They thought t tops were next so that's why they were bolt on it was some kind of loop hole but right before the c4 was released the government decided not to ban t tops with latches. Something about roll over safety
New subscriber here ! I had a brand new 1976 Corvette and was just about to trade for a C-4 when the family came along and took all my time and money. After the college tuition and appartment rent, (whew) I was again ready for a sports car. I decided that I would buy what I had planned in 1990 and looked for a year to find my white C-4 with 55000 miles ( Carfax no problems), and it was a 6 speed stick which was exactly what I loved. On the 1990 it has a glove box, so that quirk is gone. Getting in and out is good exercise for a senior like me so that quirk is no problem. I just put in a new battery, and I now plan to install the emergency hood release (thanks for that tip) . I love the car and keep it spotless- my wife has named her PRECIOUS. The worst thing I have found is the noisy first gear and I've been told this is a 1990 bug. Thanks for posting Jeff.
I had a 93 convertible which still has a glove box. I sold it and the next day picked up a 94 coupe. Guess what? The glove box was replaced with an air bag.
It is still lacking in stability with the top out as my '96 vibrates very much. I never ride with it out because I do not want the vibration over time causing wear and tear to my vehicle. Plus when putting it back in it is difficult to get to seat just right without having a little leak in the corners in mine.
had a 94 up until about 10 years ago, Loved it so much. I do miss it. The only thing I didn't like was, when I took off the top, I could tell that the body was unstable. turning into a driveway or parking lot with a small rise on it, I could feel the car twist because it just wasn't braced well enough. Damn fast, great mileage, comfortable and looked great.
What’s so bad about it? My 1990 MR2 Turbo the roof comes out and stows behind the seat in literally 2-3 secs? NVM I missed it the first time through. That is a bit worse but surely can’t take more than a few mins.
D é n k C h r i s I knew it because the Supras use the same setup and the part that takes the longest is finding the tool pack. The actual removal may be 10x longer than my MR2 Turbo but that still only amounts to a few minutes. Luckily my MR2 uses the car’s key to release (but only if you’ve locked it. Other wise it’s just a release lever while holding the secondary safety lever. 2-3secs tops
I owned a 1973 for 25 yrs prior to my buying a 2004 2yrs ago. The 2004 is much improved in every category you mentioned as quirks on the C3. Removing targa top ,ease of entry,emergency cables to open rear hatch,gas door,hood. So many creature comforts and guts galore.👍😀
Thank you! I get so annoyed with the # things I hate. I'm like do people understand what it means. Anyway thanks for the video. Oh and thanks for filming the car as you talked. Most guys stick a camera in their faces and you have to look at them and not the car.
They used to have a kit to replace the bread box with a shallow glove box. I kind of like the bread box, I hit my head on the top of the glove box, the first time in my brothers 67 427. He dropped it to 1st on a turn and I didn;t expect it to decelerate as amazing as it accelerated. You might want to look for a nice sill covers they're easier to clean and look great. Good combo choice in your vette.
My personal quirk on my 1987 C4 Corvette is, when you open the hood, it seems that getting to the several parts and removing them for service or when they need to be fixed, will be very easy. Well, I can tell you that nothing is less true! For example: try to remove the spark plug on the passenger side that is closest to the fire wall.....with ordinary tools......I wish you good luck! LOL But for the rest: I AM LOVING IT!
I have a 89 Corvette...I had a 1974 & a 1980...C3s...I had to part with them in an unwanted way..divorce..but.i landed on my feet..saved enough to get another one..I bought the 89 needing a little work that the past owner had no mechanical ability he just thought it would be too expensive to take to a garage to have fixed...so I took it on..I had to replace some fuel Injectors...correct a starting problem..replace a brake master cylinder...and rear wheel bearings...and the hardest thing was replacing the the headlight gears...but I did most of it by following your videos and others on utude...but I enjoy working on it almost as much as driving it...I have been a Corvette man since I first saw one when I was 5....my next goal is to add a 2003...50th anniversary edition....I'm a proud Corvette owner...
I HAD AN 1989..IT HAD 45,000 MILES ON IT..IT WAS MINT BUT STARTED TO TURN INTO A MONEY PIT..ALSO EVEN AFTER REPLACING THE 4 BILSTEINS AND GOING WITH KYB'S IF YOU HIT A BUMP IT WOULD RATTLE YOUR TEETH OUT...IT DID HANDLE NICE THOUGH..GO WITH A C5...BIG IMPROVEMENT...
"Emergency release cable." Translation: public access to your engine bay. That's only good for garage queens. For those of us who daily drive, the $15 tool works excellent. Easy to make one if you don't want the prefab. I keep it behind the driver's seat. No cable break yet, but one did slip out of the retaining clip. On a trip to Tail of the Dragon, of all things. I recently put new lifts on my hatch. Love triggering the release now at the grocery store. It pops open fully now with authority. Good luck with your switch fix.
If you are stepping in that car you are not entering it correctly. You are supposed to back in, sit down, and spin around and to exit just do it in reverse. Actually this is the proper way to enter any vehicle as it saves on the wear to your seat edge by keeping your backside from brushing it a thousand times which ultimately wears a hole in the leather or velour seats. I have a '96 and before anyone rides with me I have to educate them on this maneuver. Also, while riding with the targa top out is cool I never do it because it decreases the stability of the vehicle and causes a lot of vibration which can be felt in the steering wheel. Over time this will have an adverse effect on the vehicle with all that vibration loosing joints and such.
I bought my '90 convertible in 2006 and my '16 convertible in 2018. The Z51 Stingray is so much better but, the C4 gets more "thumbs ups." The C4 (58,000 mi.) is white/white top/Adrenaline Red interior and the C7 is white/Spice Red top and interior. I love 'em both.
I have a friend who is a Corvette technician and he says in his experience that the C4 designs are the most difficult to work on. Anything before or after this design is easier. Regardless, it's a beautiful design. I love the color theme from the Vette on TV series "The A-Team". That car was hot...!!!
The strongest point on this car is handling and the performance. The design is actually the poorest approach an engineer can take to produce a machine that they claim to be the very best. I assure you that a racing car such as Ferrari, McLaren, Koenigsegg first take a look at the actual design for the engine and they also take an approach to ergonomics so as to make sure the driver takes priority and comfort to driving. They also make sure the design make sense, This goes back to the C4 from 1984 when air bags first were in legislation to become a law. Thus we have the break fox in the C4. Poor approach to half ass fix the dash, pyt an airbag and make it look like something that does not belong in the car.
QUENTIN WILSON - Oh.... oh yeah!?!?!? Well well.... there! I guess I showed you. 🥴 How many miles Quentin? Mine has 48K. I inherited it from my father, he stared at the car more then he drove it. 😂
QUENTIN WILSON Very Nice! I have heard those LT1s will last forever, any issues with it? I am considering doing the opti spark as a preemptive, and replacing the water pump, actually putting in an electric. Mine as well put a dual core radiator while I’m at it. But this is all talk at this point, she runs great so probably leave it as is for now. I was also considering putting in some sound proofing and new carpet, those cars weren’t designed to be quiet 😂 Mine is blue with black interior.
Very informative. I've had my 1988 C4 since 1989. I still have it but now it's retired because it won't pass California smog tests. We did replace that bulging thing on the passenger side. We don't remove the top very much so dealing with the screws was no big deal. The battery removal had me stumped. I kept looking at it and saying there must be an easier way. I finally figured it out. Quirk # 5 was new to me. I did not know about an aftermarket kit for unlatching the hood. I may look into that.
You have a very nice Vette! I am always pleased when younger people can appreciate these cars as they are awesome! I will offer a piece of advice on your hatch release as this is a tricky repair. I have a 1988 and mine also failed. The solenoids are no longer available unless you can find New Old Stock. You can dimple the case near the output with a center punch and it may ground the coil, restoring operation. I did this and it worked for a couple of years or so. Otherwise plan on cutting the case and soldering new wires inside. I finally did that to mine and it now works flawlessly. Enjoy your car and remember, repairs are a labor of love.
I had an '88 35th Anniversary Edition with 40K miles. I had 2 panels for my roof, one solid and the other smoked. GM described getting in and out as falling in and climbing out. I'm like you though and loved this Vette.
Another one is the hand brake, who does not know how it works, they can start driving with Hand brake activated if not given attention to the info center ( Aston Martins have similar hand brake activation...) After pulling it goes all the way down for easy get in and out.than you need to pull with push button to release and again goes all the way down ... Same position for on and off ☺️
I had a 87 Black Coupe from new.... for 10 years as a daily Driver....the 4 + 3 Manuel had a few problems, the overdrive unite had to be rebuilt...Still I Loved it! got married... car had to go... SUV now daily Driver.... still miss her...
My mother bought a brand new 1985 C4 Corvette Candy Apple Red & only drives it in the spring & summer months & it's garage kept the rest of the time. My mother just turned 80 years old so she no-longer drives it bc it's hard for her getting in & out, so she gave it to me & it only has 78,500 miles on it. She had the dealer repaint it about 10 years ago, so it still looks brand new. All the time she's owned it, she's never rode with the top off. So when I drove it to my Prom years ago of course I removed to top & that was her 1st time seeing it like that. In 2023, that Vette is 38 years old & I get a lot of looks when I'm out driving it. I wish I could show puctures on here bc you guys wouldn't believe how good it looks 👀
C4 is a great car, everyone should have one! The later C4's were better, no junky TPI and ZF is a much better trans. In the battery panle, the first time you take it out, cut a slot in the panel for the lower screw, it will go right back in easy. My 93, great car. Runs 163+ mph and gets 28 MPG at 75 mph!
The targa top is great. A hard top and convertible feel in one car. Get the aftermarket kit that allows the rear glass to be raised about 2 inches. It lets the wind flow through the car and eliminates that buffeting you would get otherwise. At home I use a battery powered drill to remove and install the top. Start the bolts by hand first so you don't cross thread them.
Check Batee.com for C4 dash parts, videos, dash cluster repairs. I replaced dash cluster lights to LEDs and looks great (a friend helped me remove the cluster).
Thanks for making an actual high quality video on this! Way too many C4 owners put out videos long ago or filmed them with potatoes! Lol I am buying a C4 soon and it's good to see one in such detail over the interwebs. Speaking of which, yours is gorgeous! I've subscribed c:
I know a guy who has a yellow 1986 C4. He has a full black interior, except the seatbelts are beige for some reason. He also has that passenger safety pad delete plate you mentioned, the plate has the Corvette logo in the middle.
I have a 93 c4 with 90,000 miles and a 1997 c5 with 225,000miles and both cars are really strong. I would not trade either one for anything. I love my vettes.
Bart Pangilinan is correct on the battery removal. You only have to disconnect the cruise control and brace, and the battery will lift out at a semi vertical angle. Very easy and quickly done. Nice looking Machine in your garage. Love the color, and it has a nice interior. I Hope to renew my '86's interior next year. Its 35 years old and today it runs better than new with 192,000 miles. The engine and th700 transmission has never been cracked open. It had 77k miles when I bought it in 2001. The important thing to realize with this machine is regular quality maintainence and lubes. Don't ignore having a full transmission service done every 3 to 4 years. I love my automatic. Its flawless. It Carries me to that magic number of a Buck-Fifty whenever the time and place is right. Keep on with producing the great videos. Wishing you success.
Just sold my 96 a few months ago. I owned it for about 12 years and only had 1 problem, antilock brake controller/ traction control device failed. It is not available anywhere except as a used part. That particular unit was only used in 95 and 96, and was hard to find. Local Corvette dealer wanted $3000 to replaced it with used part. I was able to find a wrecked 95 Vette and buy the part for $300 and take about 2 hours labor to replace it. If you have a Vette, you better learn to do the work yourself, the dealers will kill you on service. Otherwise, it was a great car, good economy, good handling, few problems.
Mine's a 1992 convertible. Agree with the egress in/out of the car: you 'fall in, climb out'. Fortunately mine has the redesigned dash so that 'dash pad' on the passenger side is not an issue. Two other 'quirks': the power antenna mechanism often fails on C4's: mine did but it's stuck with the antenna halfway up so the radio still works fine so I don't worry about it. Also mine has the LT1 engine and I've read that the water pump location near the 'opti spark' unit could be a problem should the water pump start leaking: carefully watching for signs of water pump leakage. The ride control on mine doesn't work either; permanently stuck on the 'tour' setting which is fine with me. All these issues are addressable and I plan to have fixed at some point in time; mine has a little over 59,000 miles on the odometer and a lot of life left in her. Love my C4: perfectly tractable at normal highway speeds and more than enough power for me. When the C8's came out I was tempted, but I love the C4 styling and decided to keep mine and keep her in good shape.
Have a 1995 purchased new. Q1 - Doesnt apply to mine. Q2 - High frame rails give it character. Also a place to sit at the ATM. Q3 - Agree Q4 - Agree, Q5 - Agree, fortunately I havent had this problem. My 95 has the window switches in the door. I would prefer the center like like yours, and, as you should know, like myv1986 Z28.
You overlooked one of the most unique things about these in both video. The parking brake. Pull the handle up to engage, then push it down so you can get out. To disengage hold release button, pull handle back up to release like a regular parking brake.
The biggest quirk was the Doug Nash 4+3 overdrive unit in early C4s. Mine was an '85. They all blew up. My first one let go at 40k miles. And nobody could fix it. Doug Nash went out of business. Also "Targa" is a registered trademark of Porsche. Chevrolet never uses that word. The other quirk I remember was the first to fourth lockout if you were not going fast enough. Everybody bought the bypass kit for that. I had a '92 and the optispark distributor would get wet if you drove in the rain. You had to remove the water pump to get to it. I went through a couple of those. What a pain. I also fried the computer on that one. But they were really BIG fun to drive.
@@ReynoldsRides It wasn't the transmission. It was the overdrive unit that failed. I think I had it rebuilt 3 times. The third rebuild stayed together but it didn't function exactly right. The real fix would have been a Tremec or ZF 6 speed.
Thank you for your video on C-4. I purchased all new weatherstripping as well as re-set top, still leaks! Also common problem is headlights that don't lift properly, replacement plastic gears available. I agree a simpler latch system for top like C-5 method is superior. Brittle ABS plastic fascia trim. Do not over tighten top bolts, plastic top will split in two dead center.
If you have a stick shift, there is the 1st to 4th skip quirk which can be really annoying since for me it blocks me from shifting to second right at the point where I want to shift to second. Also, with the 6 speed manual, a drink in the cupholder will block reverse.
Not a problem for me as I rarely hit second anyhow. Unless taking off slowly for some reason I usually go to third or fourth in all my manual cars since the reason I like a manual is to be able to run the rpm's up when taking off.
High frame rails were installed to stiffen up the suspension because the original plan was to produce a T-Top corvette (as in the Firebird) for torsional rigidity. I believe it was GM's CEO at the time which insisted on a Targa design at the last minute (after the C4 was fully designed) to compete with the Porsche 911's. Despite kickback from the engineers, the decision was overwritten. I own a 6 spd '94 and I can feel the front ends dance, especially when the top is removed. Such a bummer because this flaw placed a big limitation on it's handling. IMO, a true sports car (performance) should always be a hardtop.
Wow, you have A C7, and you can still say alot of nice things about a C4...it will keep you humble......... and appreciate More...the New Technology, ride, performance, interior design n material's, exterior, wheels, frame, enter n exit, switches, gauges, tires, exhaust pipes n verity of Sounds, quietness, smoother ride, easy targa top removal, more trunk space, better gas mileage, more HP n torque, colder A/C, no gas cap, more luxury, n Refinement in the C7... I replaced my 90' c4 with afew C5's and now have a C7... The C4 drive trains have lasted well over 200k miles, it's just the rest of the car that fails over a much shorter period of time.
You have to get into a Corvette, like into a Racecar. Most People dont know how to get into those Cars. They get into a Corvette like into ever other ordinary Car. They start with the right Foot, than sit down, than pull the left Foot into the Car. Wrong! You have to sit in first. Means your both Foot stay beside the Car, than you sit first, and after you sit, you lift your both Feet, and make a 90 degree turn, while lifting the Feet into the Car. Your Ass is always the first Part who join the Car, and after them comes both Feet. Getting out of the Car is the same Deal backwards. Put bouth Feet outside, on the Ground. and than stand up.
I have an 87 and prefer the 87 88 and 89s the ride isnt as smooth as later ones but you definetly want the TPI and dont let the low horse power ratings scare you alot depends on the rear end gear.88 also has the much improved window regulators without the plastic strip 88 they wend to 17 inch wheels and larger calipers .16" tires are limited to a couple of companys The dash with the bread box been one of the few cars that I can see the gauges well. One other thing is the stupid opti-spark ignition behind the water pump on 90 and up (what were they thinking ???) .I have a C4 5 and 6 the C4 is just too good for me to sell for what they are going for.
To get in, face away, sit down, then swivel and pick up your legs. Reverse to get out. When I was young, I could step in and out... this is easier and faster.
The battery panel will flex without damage. Remove the bolt on,the top near the door, and the top bolts in the wheelwhell and you can flex that panel out enough to get the battery out without totally removing the panel. Some guys removed that crossbar... So
I leave the bottom screw in but, only loosen it enough to slide the cover out. It's really is easy. I found a receipt for a new DieHard battery from Sears in the paperwork for my '90 convertible. They charged the first owner (I'm the third) an extra $50 for "installation difficulties." Apparently, they forcibly pulled the battery out and ended up breaking the bracket that holds the computer so that it was just held there by its own weight. I picked one up from an owner on CorvetteForum and replaced it myself. NOW, IF SOMEONE HAD JUST READ THE OWNER'S MANUAL....
The 'breadbox' is actually a functioning crashpad. It was required for the '83 production of the C4. Delays caused the C4 to not debut until as an '84 model and by then the legislature changed not requiring the crash pad but Corvette decided to just leave it on the models. ( I think it looks cool.) I have an '85 C4 with 180,000 km and still own for for 25 years. Save the wave....
Great video, the Bread Box isn't a problem with my '92 but I do agree with the battery being a pain in the ass. And my hood latch cable is not broken but VERY loose which sucks total ass.. But the bolting targa top and frame rails are not a problem for me, both featurss make me feel more secure.
The roof on coupes are semi structural. The roof coming off was a last minute design, and it is needed as a brace for performance body stiffness. That is why it is bolted and not clipped. Roof on or off doesn’t damage the car even on nasty pot holes. But the uneasy feeling of the body twisting a lot more can be a deterrent. X braces were put on the convertibles. Lowering the ground clearance by an (significant) inch as they attached below the exhaust. Remedied by the convertibles being raised. After, I believe, 85 the coupes would have the ability for install minus a couple holes in the rear for ease of manufacturing. A slightly less obtrusive way would be the No Flex Frame, still readily purchasable today. These would run along the rockers and not lower the car. Same effect, only down side is jacking up and placing a jack becomes a process, not hard just inconvenient. I am all too aware but still love it.
I took the cruise control loose. Just lifted it up all the way. It doesn't take more than 15 minutes. Some Corvettes may have more but I got a 1984. And that's the way I took mine out.it my be slow lol.other chevy guys come from no were lol. How to make it faster. Me lol . Looking good is what matters most.they put a motor in every year or 2 .me on my first
Funny tidbit on the targa top. That's the reason there was no 1983 Corvette. GM couldn't make the targa top work right in time for the '83 model year. If the top was out, the car had to be parked on a perfectly level surface to be able to re-install the top.
I had a 1987 C4 and didn't like anything about it, but even with a 240HP rating it could definitely smoke the tires. Then traded for a '93 with 300HP was faster that the "87 and had a beautiful body style. Now driving a 345 HP C5 with the optional 3:15 axle ratio and love it, especially the spacious trunk, and the pin you in your seat acceleration. Sometime in near future will be trading for a C6.
4:30 you can make emergency release by running a short wire through the rubber seal. you can use cable ties and the cable can be a bicycle shifter cable
Those high frame rails saved my life. I was in a bad accident 20 years ago. Had a 1993 Vette and was clobbered by a drunk driver at very high speed. My Vette was obliterated into fiberglass dust. A combination of the seatbelt locking up and those high frame rails is what saved my life.
Wow, glad you’re ok!
I'm near 70 years with a bad foot, and a fused neck,I still manage getting in and out of my 87 rag top, easier with top-down. getting in is fairly easy as I have the gravity assist entry option, unfortunately, it works against you getting out, some folks seem mildly amused at my egress methods, though one guy(my age) while chuckling added,"don't worry,I have even more trouble getting out of mine. It is reassuring to know you have plenty of frame around you,I just agreed to buy a '95 coupe to give the 87 a stablemate, and for whatever reason, it seems much easier to get out of.
My 87 has the added cables for the hood release, they work well, I will have to replace the hood opening cylinder, as it does not help any more, and that sexy big hood is HEAVY!
The reason for the high frame rails is that the car did not have T tops with the center part of the roof the cars top came completely off there fore structural strength for the car required the higher door sills I own a '89 my father owned a '89 that he bought brand new and he explained this to me
@@chrisbudai409 That's right and the reason for the bolts instead of latches on the targa top. I think the top carries some torsional load. The car seems stiffer with the top in place.
@@buffdelcampo of course
I was a Corvette tech in a dealership.I can't tell you how many times I had to show owners how to release the parking brake on a C4.The top not getting latched and flying off was also common and it would cost them $1400 for that mistake.Knowledge of the car you drive is a must.
Thank you for the video. My brother had nearly that exact Vette when he died in 06 of cancer. Same year, color etc. Only difference is his seats and other minor interior pieces were caramel colored. We had to let it go later on 07. Lots of great memories with that car. When you showed the shot of the frame rails I was hit with the memory of the smell of his C4. Brings up a lot of emotions. Especially it being the same color.
Nice job on the video. I have a 1993 Ruby Red 40th Anniversary Edition C4. When these cars were manufactured they were way ahead of their time and are still competitive and a blast today.
Good car love that ruby red
If it weren't for our C4's we wouldn't have the rocket ships we have now..
Absolutely true.
And Model Ts before that.
Amen. The C4 changed the Corvette from a luxury GT to a world-class supercar contender.
Great video. I would also add the headlight gears. I would think most C4 owners have to go through this at some point in time. I spent the extra money to upgrade to brass headlight gears instead of the stock nylon. Works great with no failures. Those nylon gears are crap.
FYI
Get a flat piece of metal bent in an “L” shape that battery can sit on . Make sure it’s wide enough to fully cover the side of the battery.
The way a thief steals those cars is
Jamming an ice pick thru the panel an into the battery. It drains the battery which allows thief to pick up the car and tow it away without the alarm triggering.
Woah!
I find it totally amazing how so many people say a C4 is hard to enter and exit. REALLY ? simple you turn backwards putt your butt on the seat and swings your legs in.. exit reverse procedure .. It is that bloody easy... As for the top, O i TOTALLY agree, they could have done better.. But i love my C4..
I LOVE THE PHILIPPINES I can get in and out of my C4 without any problems... for now anyway, that might change as I get older 😅
@@slash2335 Trust me IT WILL,but still well worth the effort!
I have sat in a C4 before and I totally get why the high rails were nixed for the C5 as it is a common complaint of Corvette owners that they had to do body gymnastics to get in and out of the C4. Given the typical demographics of these cars it would make sense they would address this in the C5. However, I think that is part of the charm of the C4 because you feel lower and this makes it feel more like a cockpit where you lose that to a degree in the C5. If you compare a C4 to a C7 the layout does feel rather similar in how snug you fit when you are seated.
I LOVE THE PHILIPPINES I agree. It's not that hard. Move the seat all the way back and just sit on the frame rail and slide in that way. I also put my left hand on the bottom bolster and slide on the back of my hand to minimize wear on the leather. Works well.
Thank you, so glad someone else knows this and actually this is the proper way to enter any vehicle unless it sits too high to do so as it will save wear and tear on your seat edges from your backside rubbing them every time you enter and exit the vehicle.
I was told the targa top has to bolt in bc of the car's torque. I just bought a 1996 a few months ago and I love it!
I have a 96 convertible, polo green with beige leather interior and it is awesome!
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I still want one, but in Europe its not easy to find a good one. Most of them are in bad shape leather , all torn up and thats the easy thing to fix
No the government was try to change rules on removable tops. They stopped making convertibles for a few years because the government was considering banning them. They thought t tops were next so that's why they were bolt on it was some kind of loop hole but right before the c4 was released the government decided not to ban t tops with latches. Something about roll over safety
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Well said, dont use the word Hate so freely!
First time I see someone doing that comment, excellent!
New subscriber here ! I had a brand new 1976 Corvette and was just about to trade for a C-4 when the family came along and took all my time and money. After the college tuition and appartment rent, (whew) I was again ready for a sports car. I decided that I would buy what I had planned in 1990 and looked for a year to find my white C-4 with 55000 miles ( Carfax no problems), and it was a 6 speed stick which was exactly what I loved. On the 1990 it has a glove box, so that quirk is gone. Getting in and out is good exercise for a senior like me so that quirk is no problem. I just put in a new battery, and I now plan to install the emergency hood release (thanks for that tip) . I love the car and keep it spotless- my wife has named her PRECIOUS. The worst thing I have found is the noisy first gear and I've been told this is a 1990 bug. Thanks for posting Jeff.
I had a 93 convertible which still has a glove box. I sold it and the next day picked up a 94 coupe. Guess what? The glove box was replaced with an air bag.
Good c4 content keep up the good work c4 are the bang for the buck
As the car gets older, petty things need attention. Weather strips, rubber hoses, ect. Nature of the beast.
The high sill was to give the frame enough rigidity to support the last minute change to have a one piece targa top.
It is still lacking in stability with the top out as my '96 vibrates very much. I never ride with it out because I do not want the vibration over time causing wear and tear to my vehicle. Plus when putting it back in it is difficult to get to seat just right without having a little leak in the corners in mine.
This is true. The bowl design is for rigidity without the T-top.
had a 94 up until about 10 years ago, Loved it so much. I do miss it.
The only thing I didn't like was, when I took off the top, I could tell that the body was unstable.
turning into a driveway or parking lot with a small rise on it, I could
feel the car twist because it just wasn't braced well enough. Damn
fast, great mileage, comfortable and looked great.
2nd and 3rd gen F-bodies flex all the time.
You c4 coupe owners, do what racers do. add convert x member to frame. adds needed rigidity, especially to z51 cars.
The C4 Corvette demonstration video makes removing the targa top look simple and effortless....😂
What’s so bad about it? My 1990 MR2 Turbo the roof comes out and stows behind the seat in literally 2-3 secs?
NVM I missed it the first time through. That is a bit worse but surely can’t take more than a few mins.
Neg Ative it really doesn’t I can take mine off in about 3 minutes and have it back on in another 3 don’t know what he’s on about😂
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I knew it because the Supras use the same setup and the part that takes the longest is finding the tool pack. The actual removal may be 10x longer than my MR2 Turbo but that still only amounts to a few minutes. Luckily my MR2 uses the car’s key to release (but only if you’ve locked it. Other wise it’s just a release lever while holding the secondary safety lever. 2-3secs tops
4 Screws..Never ever had a problem Small ratchet in the console that came with the car..
My brother had a 1975 Bricklin that had very tall side rails, made for safer side impact. Love Corvettes!!
I owned a 1973 for 25 yrs prior to my buying a 2004 2yrs ago. The 2004 is much improved in every category you mentioned as quirks on the C3. Removing targa top ,ease of entry,emergency cables to open rear hatch,gas door,hood. So many creature comforts and guts galore.👍😀
73 is a classic beauty wow!! Keep both!!!
Thank you! I get so annoyed with the # things I hate. I'm like do people understand what it means. Anyway thanks for the video. Oh and thanks for filming the car as you talked. Most guys stick a camera in their faces and you have to look at them and not the car.
They used to have a kit to replace the bread box with a shallow glove box. I kind of like the bread box, I hit my head on the top of the glove box, the first time in my brothers 67 427. He dropped it to 1st on a turn and I didn;t expect it to decelerate as amazing as it accelerated. You might want to look for a nice sill covers they're easier to clean and look great. Good combo choice in your vette.
I have a C6 and my neighbor just bought a C4 now I can tell him all about his corvette thanks to you ,Great video
My personal quirk on my 1987 C4 Corvette is, when you open the hood, it seems that getting to the several parts and removing them for service or when they need to be fixed, will be very easy. Well, I can tell you that nothing is less true! For example: try to remove the spark plug on the passenger side that is closest to the fire wall.....with ordinary tools......I wish you good luck! LOL But for the rest: I AM LOVING IT!
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Nice car have the same one only convertible. I love it, cheers
I have an 89 convertible also 6 speed transmission
I have a 89 Corvette...I had a 1974 & a 1980...C3s...I had to part with them in an unwanted way..divorce..but.i landed on my feet..saved enough to get another one..I bought the 89 needing a little work that the past owner had no mechanical ability he just thought it would be too expensive to take to a garage to have fixed...so I took it on..I had to replace some fuel Injectors...correct a starting problem..replace a brake master cylinder...and rear wheel bearings...and the hardest thing was replacing the the headlight gears...but I did most of it by following your videos and others on utude...but I enjoy working on it almost as much as driving it...I have been a Corvette man since I first saw one when I was 5....my next goal is to add a 2003...50th anniversary edition....I'm a proud Corvette owner...
I HAD AN 1989..IT HAD 45,000 MILES ON IT..IT WAS MINT BUT STARTED TO TURN INTO A MONEY PIT..ALSO EVEN AFTER REPLACING THE 4 BILSTEINS AND GOING WITH KYB'S IF YOU HIT A BUMP IT WOULD RATTLE YOUR TEETH OUT...IT DID HANDLE NICE THOUGH..GO WITH A C5...BIG IMPROVEMENT...
"Emergency release cable." Translation: public access to your engine bay. That's only good for garage queens. For those of us who daily drive, the $15 tool works excellent. Easy to make one if you don't want the prefab. I keep it behind the driver's seat. No cable break yet, but one did slip out of the retaining clip. On a trip to Tail of the Dragon, of all things. I recently put new lifts on my hatch. Love triggering the release now at the grocery store. It pops open fully now with authority. Good luck with your switch fix.
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If you are stepping in that car you are not entering it correctly. You are supposed to back in, sit down, and spin around and to exit just do it in reverse. Actually this is the proper way to enter any vehicle as it saves on the wear to your seat edge by keeping your backside from brushing it a thousand times which ultimately wears a hole in the leather or velour seats. I have a '96 and before anyone rides with me I have to educate them on this maneuver. Also, while riding with the targa top out is cool I never do it because it decreases the stability of the vehicle and causes a lot of vibration which can be felt in the steering wheel. Over time this will have an adverse effect on the vehicle with all that vibration loosing joints and such.
Even though I will be in the market for a C7 GS, I love my c4 1987😎👍🏾🔥
I bought my '90 convertible in 2006 and my '16 convertible in 2018. The Z51 Stingray is so much better but, the C4 gets more "thumbs ups."
The C4 (58,000 mi.) is white/white top/Adrenaline Red interior and the C7 is white/Spice Red top and interior. I love 'em both.
I have a friend who is a Corvette technician and he says in his experience that the C4 designs are the most difficult to work on. Anything before or after this design is easier. Regardless, it's a beautiful design. I love the color theme from the Vette on TV series "The A-Team". That car was hot...!!!
The strongest point on this car is handling and the performance. The design is actually the poorest approach an engineer can take to produce a machine that they claim to be the very best. I assure you that a racing car such as Ferrari, McLaren, Koenigsegg first take a look at the actual design for the engine and they also take an approach to ergonomics so as to make sure the driver takes priority and comfort to driving. They also make sure the design make sense, This goes back to the C4 from 1984 when air bags first were in legislation to become a law. Thus we have the break fox in the C4. Poor approach to half ass fix the dash, pyt an airbag and make it look like something that does not belong in the car.
mechanics have been complaining about working on these cars since 1984.
I have a 1985 c4 L98 tpi best car ever
Mikey 137 - Sorry, but my 95 LT1 is the best ever!
@@sdcoinshooter sorry but my 91 lt1 is obviously the best
QUENTIN WILSON - Oh.... oh yeah!?!?!? Well well.... there! I guess I showed you. 🥴 How many miles Quentin? Mine has 48K. I inherited it from my father, he stared at the car more then he drove it. 😂
@@sdcoinshooter ooo you got me there 141k but its white with white interior and black top
QUENTIN WILSON Very Nice! I have heard those LT1s will last forever, any issues with it? I am considering doing the opti spark as a preemptive, and replacing the water pump, actually putting in an electric. Mine as well put a dual core radiator while I’m at it. But this is all talk at this point, she runs great so probably leave it as is for now. I was also considering putting in some sound proofing and new carpet, those cars weren’t designed to be quiet 😂 Mine is blue with black interior.
Very informative. I've had my 1988 C4 since 1989. I still have it but now it's retired because it won't pass California smog tests. We did replace that bulging thing on the passenger side. We don't remove the top very much so dealing with the screws was no big deal. The battery removal had me stumped. I kept looking at it and saying there must be an easier way. I finally figured it out. Quirk # 5 was new to me. I did not know about an aftermarket kit for unlatching the hood. I may look into that.
You have a very nice Vette! I am always pleased when younger people can appreciate these cars as they are awesome!
I will offer a piece of advice on your hatch release as this is a tricky repair. I have a 1988 and mine also failed. The solenoids are no longer available unless you can find New Old Stock. You can dimple the case near the output with a center punch and it may ground the coil, restoring operation. I did this and it worked for a couple of years or so. Otherwise plan on cutting the case and soldering new wires inside. I finally did that to mine and it now works flawlessly.
Enjoy your car and remember, repairs are a labor of love.
Thanks for the advice!
I found Firebird parts would work on my 94. They were less pricey too. Miss my 94 Admiral Blue Corvette.
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I had an '88 35th Anniversary Edition with 40K miles. I had 2 panels for my roof, one solid and the other smoked. GM described getting in and out as falling in and climbing out. I'm like you though and loved this Vette.
I just saw your Utah plate! I’m also from Utah and I’m getting a 84 C4 this month. I’m so excited for it! I can’t wait to transform it.
My brother just picked up an 89. He really likes his.
Another one is the hand brake, who does not know how it works, they can start driving with Hand brake activated if not given attention to the info center ( Aston Martins have similar hand brake activation...) After pulling it goes all the way down for easy get in and out.than you need to pull with push button to release and again goes all the way down ... Same position for on and off ☺️
beautiful car, shines clean, perfect :)
I had a 87 Black Coupe from new.... for 10 years as a daily Driver....the 4 + 3 Manuel had a few problems, the overdrive unite had to be rebuilt...Still I Loved it! got married... car had to go... SUV now daily Driver.... still miss her...
My mother bought a brand new 1985 C4 Corvette Candy Apple Red & only drives it in the spring & summer months & it's garage kept the rest of the time.
My mother just turned 80 years old so she no-longer drives it bc it's hard for her getting in & out, so she gave it to me & it only has 78,500 miles on it.
She had the dealer repaint it about 10 years ago, so it still looks brand new. All the time she's owned it, she's never rode with the top off.
So when I drove it to my Prom years ago of course I removed to top & that was her 1st time seeing it like that. In 2023, that Vette is 38 years old & I get a lot of looks when I'm out driving it.
I wish I could show puctures on here bc you guys wouldn't believe how good it looks 👀
Keep those tips coming - thx
on my 3rd C4--84,,87,,,now a 92,,,super reliable-fast,,love it
That’s awesome!👊
C4 is a great car, everyone should have one! The later C4's were better, no junky TPI and ZF is a much better trans. In the battery panle, the first time you take it out, cut a slot in the panel for the lower screw, it will go right back in easy. My 93, great car. Runs 163+ mph and gets 28 MPG at 75 mph!
The targa top is great. A hard top and convertible feel in one car. Get the aftermarket kit that allows the rear glass to be raised about 2 inches. It lets the wind flow through the car and eliminates that buffeting you would get otherwise. At home I use a battery powered drill to remove and install the top. Start the bolts by hand first so you don't cross thread them.
I had an 85 and 86 and they were good cars for the day but they were famous for the electronic dashed going out and it was $500 to fix them back then.
These panels are well documented and most any issues are easy to fix if you have a soldering iron.
The #1 reason I bought a '90.
Check Batee.com for C4 dash parts, videos, dash cluster repairs.
I replaced dash cluster lights to LEDs and looks great (a friend helped me remove the cluster).
You basically fall in and crawl out but I still love it.
So true.
Thanks for posting! Looking to buy the ‘91 roadster. These are bonus tips to check out before buying.
I have an 88 convertible. Love it!
Me too! I've had mine since 2000. Still gets plenty of looks although it's starting to show its age
Thanks for making an actual high quality video on this! Way too many C4 owners put out videos long ago or filmed them with potatoes! Lol
I am buying a C4 soon and it's good to see one in such detail over the interwebs. Speaking of which, yours is gorgeous! I've subscribed c:
It's really simple sit down sideways swing legs in very simple and comfortable
Very informative video. I’m a Ford guy but someday I’d love to get a C3 or C4.
I know a guy who has a yellow 1986 C4. He has a full black interior, except the seatbelts are beige for some reason. He also has that passenger safety pad delete plate you mentioned, the plate has the Corvette logo in the middle.
I have a 93 c4 with 90,000 miles and a 1997 c5 with 225,000miles and both cars are really strong. I would not trade either one for anything. I love my vettes.
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
THX! 86 FOR ME...GOOD FILM.
On the 84-91 C4s you can change the battery by unbolting the CC and the frame brace under it.
Bart Pangilinan is correct on the battery removal. You only have to disconnect the cruise control and brace, and the battery will lift out at a semi vertical angle. Very easy and quickly done.
Nice looking Machine in your garage. Love the color, and it has a nice interior. I Hope to renew my '86's interior next year. Its 35 years old and today it runs better than new with 192,000 miles. The engine and th700 transmission has never been cracked open. It had 77k miles when I bought it in 2001. The important thing to realize with this machine is regular quality maintainence and lubes. Don't ignore having a full transmission service done every 3 to 4 years. I love my automatic. Its flawless. It Carries me to that magic number of a Buck-Fifty whenever the time and place is right.
Keep on with producing the great videos. Wishing you success.
Nice Vette...Just Bought an 87" C4.. I got a Video on mine I Posted..I love these Cars 💯🇺🇸💪
Just sold my 96 a few months ago. I owned it for about 12 years and only had 1 problem, antilock brake controller/ traction control device failed. It is not available anywhere except as a used part. That particular unit was only used in 95 and 96, and was hard to find. Local Corvette dealer wanted $3000 to replaced it with used part. I was able to find a wrecked 95 Vette and buy the part for $300 and take about 2 hours labor to replace it. If you have a Vette, you better learn to do the work yourself, the dealers will kill you on service.
Otherwise, it was a great car, good economy, good handling, few problems.
Mine's a 1992 convertible. Agree with the egress in/out of the car: you 'fall in, climb out'. Fortunately mine has the redesigned dash so that 'dash pad' on the passenger side is not an issue. Two other 'quirks': the power antenna mechanism often fails on C4's: mine did but it's stuck with the antenna halfway up so the radio still works fine so I don't worry about it. Also mine has the LT1 engine and I've read that the water pump location near the 'opti spark' unit could be a problem should the water pump start leaking: carefully watching for signs of water pump leakage. The ride control on mine doesn't work either; permanently stuck on the 'tour' setting which is fine with me. All these issues are addressable and I plan to have fixed at some point in time; mine has a little over 59,000 miles on the odometer and a lot of life left in her. Love my C4: perfectly tractable at normal highway speeds and more than enough power for me. When the C8's came out I was tempted, but I love the C4 styling and decided to keep mine and keep her in good shape.
My antenna is stuck on the up position in my 89 how do I fix that?
Have a 1995 purchased new. Q1 - Doesnt apply to mine.
Q2 - High frame rails give it character. Also a place to sit at the ATM. Q3 - Agree Q4 - Agree, Q5 - Agree, fortunately I havent had this problem. My 95 has the window switches in the door. I would prefer the center like like yours, and, as you should know, like myv1986 Z28.
same as a lotus tithe it's titanium tub..very strong and safe
The targa top is structural. With the top off the chassis is very flexible.
Love the car. Great color.
You overlooked one of the most unique things about these in both video. The parking brake. Pull the handle up to engage, then push it down so you can get out. To disengage hold release button, pull handle back up to release like a regular parking brake.
The biggest quirk was the Doug Nash 4+3 overdrive unit in early C4s. Mine was an '85. They all blew up. My first one let go at 40k miles. And nobody could fix it. Doug Nash went out of business. Also "Targa" is a registered trademark of Porsche. Chevrolet never uses that word. The other quirk I remember was the first to fourth lockout if you were not going fast enough. Everybody bought the bypass kit for that. I had a '92 and the optispark distributor would get wet if you drove in the rain. You had to remove the water pump to get to it. I went through a couple of those. What a pain. I also fried the computer on that one. But they were really BIG fun to drive.
What did you do about your transmission since nobody could fix it?
@@ReynoldsRides It wasn't the transmission. It was the overdrive unit that failed. I think I had it rebuilt 3 times. The third rebuild stayed together but it didn't function exactly right. The real fix would have been a Tremec or ZF 6 speed.
Nice video good looking car , i had several corvettes , i have an 85 mow love these cars
That hood cable idea is something I need to get for my C4 because like you said if the cable breaks is no bueno!!
Fish a brand new lightly oiled line in. And it wont break until looooong after you're gone and then it won't be your prob :)!!
Thank you for your video on C-4. I purchased all new weatherstripping as well as re-set top, still leaks! Also common problem is headlights that don't lift properly, replacement plastic gears available. I agree a simpler latch system for top like C-5 method is superior. Brittle ABS plastic fascia trim. Do not over tighten top bolts, plastic top will split in two dead center.
I use to remove the cruse control module back in the day .I had 3 C4 , 84, 88 and 94...
Nice Car Man :-) That car was my dreamcar in 1990 :-) I drive a Camaro but next car after that it will be a Corvette c 4 :-)
I just bought a Camaro and made a couple videos on it.👊
If you have a stick shift, there is the 1st to 4th skip quirk which can be really annoying since for me it blocks me from shifting to second right at the point where I want to shift to second. Also, with the 6 speed manual, a drink in the cupholder will block reverse.
Not a problem for me as I rarely hit second anyhow. Unless taking off slowly for some reason I usually go to third or fourth in all my manual cars since the reason I like a manual is to be able to run the rpm's up when taking off.
@@wayne3302264 This video is not about 'me' it's about the C4's quirks.
The size of the cup holders. The cup holders sit on top of the trans tunnel were all the heat comes through.
Great to keep drinks hot lol, use a thermos cup for cold drinks
High frame rails were installed to stiffen up the suspension because the original plan was to produce a T-Top corvette (as in the Firebird) for torsional rigidity. I believe it was GM's CEO at the time which insisted on a Targa design at the last minute (after the C4 was fully designed) to compete with the Porsche 911's. Despite kickback from the engineers, the decision was overwritten. I own a 6 spd '94 and I can feel the front ends dance, especially when the top is removed. Such a bummer because this flaw placed a big limitation on it's handling. IMO, a true sports car (performance) should always be a hardtop.
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I followed your advice and got one :D
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Wow, you have A C7, and you can still say alot of nice things about a C4...it will keep you humble......... and appreciate More...the New Technology, ride, performance, interior design n material's, exterior, wheels, frame, enter n exit, switches, gauges, tires, exhaust pipes n verity of Sounds, quietness, smoother ride, easy targa top removal, more trunk space, better gas mileage, more HP n torque, colder A/C, no gas cap, more luxury, n Refinement in the C7... I replaced my 90' c4 with afew C5's and now have a C7... The C4 drive trains have lasted well over 200k miles, it's just the rest of the car that fails over a much shorter period of time.
You have to get into a Corvette, like into a Racecar.
Most People dont know how to get into those Cars. They get into a Corvette like into ever other ordinary Car. They start with the right Foot, than sit down, than pull the left Foot into the Car. Wrong!
You have to sit in first. Means your both Foot stay beside the Car, than you sit first, and after you sit, you lift your both Feet, and make a 90 degree turn, while lifting the Feet into the Car.
Your Ass is always the first Part who join the Car, and after them comes both Feet.
Getting out of the Car is the same Deal backwards. Put bouth Feet outside, on the Ground. and than stand up.
I have an 87 and prefer the 87 88 and 89s the ride isnt as smooth as later ones but you definetly want the TPI and dont let the low horse power ratings scare you alot depends on the rear end gear.88 also has the much improved window regulators without the plastic strip 88 they wend to 17 inch wheels and larger calipers .16" tires are limited to a couple of companys The dash with the bread box been one of the few cars that I can see the gauges well. One other thing is the stupid opti-spark ignition behind the water pump on 90 and up (what were they thinking ???) .I have a C4 5 and 6 the C4 is just too good for me to sell for what they are going for.
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To get in, face away, sit down, then swivel and pick up your legs. Reverse to get out. When I was young, I could step in and out... this is easier and faster.
The battery panel will flex without damage. Remove the bolt on,the top near the door, and the top bolts in the wheelwhell and you can flex that panel out enough to get the battery out without totally removing the panel. Some guys removed that crossbar... So
I leave the bottom screw in but, only loosen it enough to slide the cover out. It's really is easy.
I found a receipt for a new DieHard battery from Sears in the paperwork for my '90 convertible. They charged the first owner (I'm the third) an extra $50 for "installation difficulties." Apparently, they forcibly pulled the battery out and ended up breaking the bracket that holds the computer so that it was just held there by its own weight. I picked one up from an owner on CorvetteForum and replaced it myself. NOW, IF SOMEONE HAD JUST READ THE OWNER'S MANUAL....
I had the same 89 C4. Same color too.
The 'breadbox' is actually a functioning crashpad. It was required for the '83 production of the C4. Delays caused the C4 to not debut until as an '84 model
and by then the legislature changed not requiring the crash pad but Corvette decided to just leave it on the models. ( I think it looks cool.)
I have an '85 C4 with 180,000 km and still own for for 25 years. Save the wave....
Great video, the Bread Box isn't a problem with my '92 but I do agree with the battery being a pain in the ass. And my hood latch cable is not broken but VERY loose which sucks total ass..
But the bolting targa top and frame rails are not a problem for me, both featurss make me feel more secure.
Strange that he said the "bread box" was 84-89 and it disappeared in the redesign in 1990. So how does your '92 have one?
@@dantresohlavy7323 that's why I said it's not a problem, I don't have one 😅
The roof on coupes are semi structural. The roof coming off was a last minute design, and it is needed as a brace for performance body stiffness. That is why it is bolted and not clipped. Roof on or off doesn’t damage the car even on nasty pot holes. But the uneasy feeling of the body twisting a lot more can be a deterrent.
X braces were put on the convertibles. Lowering the ground clearance by an (significant) inch as they attached below the exhaust. Remedied by the convertibles being raised. After, I believe, 85 the coupes would have the ability for install minus a couple holes in the rear for ease of manufacturing.
A slightly less obtrusive way would be the No Flex Frame, still readily purchasable today. These would run along the rockers and not lower the car. Same effect, only down side is jacking up and placing a jack becomes a process, not hard just inconvenient. I am all too aware but still love it.
I took the cruise control loose. Just lifted it up all the way. It doesn't take more than 15 minutes. Some Corvettes may have more but I got a 1984. And that's the way I took mine out.it my be slow lol.other chevy guys come from no were lol. How to make it faster. Me lol . Looking good is what matters most.they put a motor in every year or 2 .me on my first
Had a 95 loved it
Funny tidbit on the targa top. That's the reason there was no 1983 Corvette. GM couldn't make the targa top work right in time for the '83 model year. If the top was out, the car had to be parked on a perfectly level surface to be able to re-install the top.
I had a 1987 C4 and didn't like anything about it, but even with a 240HP rating it could definitely smoke the tires. Then traded for a '93 with 300HP was faster that the "87 and had a beautiful body style. Now driving a 345 HP C5 with the optional 3:15 axle ratio and love it, especially the spacious trunk, and the pin you in your seat acceleration. Sometime in near future will be trading for a C6.
4:30 you can make emergency release by running a short wire through the rubber seal. you can use cable ties and the cable can be a bicycle shifter cable
I took my bread box out and installed a 10 disc CD changer and covered it with a Corvette license plate cover
Beautiful car brother!!!!!
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The bolts on the top were for rigidity. The Camaro had the T in the top for stability.
Hello hey i heve a 1989 chevycorvet i love it is funn to drive
I'm about to buy one, the c4 is the coolest Corvette in my opinion, nice one u got there.
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C3's baby!!
Great Info!
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Last year you could rotate wheels and tires front to back. Not side to side of course.
As far as I know, the speedometer digits fade out in virtually all C4s. That's the part I despise about them.
Thanks for your efforts.. great review.. I think fuel tank kind of Quirky too ..
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The C4 was definitely easy to clean under the hood.
Great cars that still perform today, and can be had for a pretty cheap price
True. These builders are buying C4s and using the suspensions on tube-frame cars. Says A LOT about the engineering and development of C4 components.
My 1984 has the plastic rails.
I HATE....that I don't own a C4.
The bread box is there instead of an airbag because the regulations changed and there was no time to upgrade the airbag system.