Real World PDR Training Be realistic. You can practice For a years and you wont shrink metal just for pushing it out with any “shrinking tips” only best method is push behind and tap it down to shrink it. and also not every time, all depend how big is overstretched area.
@@RealWorldPDRTraining Bonjour quel est le modèle précis que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo l’outils stanliner ? Car sur le site je vois trois modèle (2 pour garde boue ) et (1) outil de cuillère à rouler ) lequel est celui que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo ? Merci au passage votre travail est fantastique
On the dolly technique: Look into old school metalfinishing tools known as "Ring Hammers" and "Ring Dollies" I used to do all my small detail work with those and small "Jeweler's" hammers. Also, if you are using a polished chasing hammer, or a Jewelers hammer, you can use the dolly technique with the VIP tip as well. Just make sure you are very gentile with the way you strike.
As a 30 yr body tech , what amazes me are your knock down techniques , I like the stanley dollie on a stick hammer on technique as well ,always more to learn !
Great video Jim I like the look of both tools, very interesting the stanliner one, is there much chance of pushing the metal outward from the centre as appose to the vip tip pulling the metal towards the centre? Being a panel beater and knowing all about dollies and techniques (some covered in my next vid 😉) I’d say you would be limited to size/depth using the stanliner before the dent stretched? What you think? Cheers martin
And the point? These are different tools, they are for different types of damage. You did the same peak cons, and everywhere there were different leftovers. It’s easier to push the center with a bullet with a cap. Tap the skirt and squeeze the point with a needle. In any case, no one is forbidden to search and analyze, this is my personal opinion. I put Like from the beginning, then looked.
Ремонт Вмятин 100% Spiked tips was created long time ago by Russian guy, and this is not shrinking metal at any stage, but now they released “new idea” shrinking tips🤦🏻♂️ its just marketing scam, peoples buying and waisting his money on this useless VIP or GLEXO tips to hoping shrink metal, Overstrained metal means , to much metal. And no way shrink just for pushing or taping, only way to shrink it is push and tap at the same time as Jim shows with stanliner tool.
@@Emigraves Yes, we did a lot of such attachments,and the search was long.And a hedgehog and a petal, but the best was a Cactus.It was first made by Yuri Petrenko, the oldest paint-free artist in Russia.Cactus is made in Austria, he gave the development and ptent there.It really works,and some defects without it, I will not take in repair.This nozzle has a needle tilt, works both soft and hard.She kicks her can fix Chris on itself when the lamp is not parallel and perpendicular.If interested, I can throw you a video description and where the original is sold.Jim please excuse me for these messages, in any case this is Your channel.I didn't test the Glexo and VIP attachments,and I can't say anything for them.But I immediately understand that they are not applicable on the peak cons of single ones.Sometimes manufacturers make and sell.And then they ask the masters how?
@@РемонтВмятин Добрый день Николай.Объясните на русском в двух словах.В чём прикол? Давил давил он этим ноу хау ананасом или чем там и всё равно остались зажованности и дно вмятины в спичечную головку во всех случаях.Я чтото не досмотрел или так надо?
Bonjour quel est le modèle précis que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo l’outils stanliner ? Car sur le site je vois trois modèle (2 pour garde boue ) et (1) outil de cuillère à rouler ) lequel est celui que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo ? Merci au passage votre travail est fantastique.
Stanliner has a bunch or tips like this if you make it to the shows. Unfortunately other than that you’ll be using the killer whale tail which is still kind of rare to come across. If you see one for sale, snatch it up.... that’s the first tool I experimented with this technique using. Worked like a charm. 2 dents I wouldnt normally even take on (bb style) done in 15 minutes 100 bucks a piece no need for wet sand or any kind of rework. The killer whale also has tons of other uses, totally worthwhile tool if you can snag one
Your pdr videos are by far the best on UA-cam. Thanks for all your uploads!! Have you seen the alligator tools. It's a European company similar to stanliner.
@@RealWorldPDRTraining it's just I live in the UK to get stanliner tools costs the price of a tool to delivery. The alligator tools are similar i think but cheaper to get delivered. I was hoping for a pro like you could say they are good. Thanks anyways
I’ll tell you what. It goes against everything in me. But I’ll order some and try them out. My problem is they are using stanliner designs, and they are actually family of Stanliner. So because I have a good relationship with stanliner I hadn’t bought any. But because a subscriber wants to see it, I think that overrides any personal affiliation I have (which is minimal anyway)
@@RealWorldPDRTraining thank you very much.. I'll look forward to your new uploads. It's like this skill is almost a hidden trade that body shops paint suppliers don't want people to know about. Some of the dents you remove are very impressive. What a great skill to have and share.. Your a great UA-cam teacher with a great attitude. 👍
@@RealWorldPDRTraining do you want me to speak with alligator tools to see if they will send you some of their unique tools for review? I'm nothing to do with them but have already spoken to someone about doing some review's in English for usa and UK market. They seemed keen. Cheers
That technique looks awesome man I want to sign up for your online classes being a new pdr tech I enjoy your videos brother 👍 That technique wouldn’t be possible on a door without taking out glass and all that correct ? I don’t see that stanliner tool fitting in there
On an oversized stretched hail dent (non bb) would you still approach it with a sharp tip? or VIP/Glexo Sonic? I'm curious to know if it's worth the investment
Your objectivity and lack of an ego problem makes you an excellent instructor. I have pretty much quit watching other pdr videos, especially when the instructor has a foreign accent.
Good job comparing both tips! Both tips seems to do their job in different ways. But killer whale tail does not shrink the metal....(?) So if the dent it's quite stretched where do you "send" that extra streched metal?
I think this would be an excellent time to combine both of these tools. The killer whale won’t shrink anything, but will allow you to send the displaced (into the dent) metal back to its home. Leaving just the area needing gathered. The VIP tip would kill it in that situation.
That stanliner tip is priceless. If you guys aren't signed up for real world pdr monthly at www.realworldpdr.com your missing out there are so many tips like this.
Thank you for this video i wait for it from this time when this useless shrinking tips was released, as VIP AND GLEXO. WHEN I SEE IT FIRST TIME. I SAID. THIS TIPS VONT SHRINK METAL. AND I WAS RIGHT. THERE IS BIG MARKETING GUYS, dont waist your money on “shrinking tips, as its very expensive and useless, Thanks again for this video you busted myth of shrinking tips👍🏻
Let it be known VIP makes awesome tools. I still need to practice with this tip.
Just showing two different ways.
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Be realistic. You can practice For a years and you wont shrink metal just for pushing it out with any “shrinking tips” only best method is push behind and tap it down to shrink it.
and also not every time, all depend how big is overstretched area.
R M it does gather metal quickly. These dents were too tight to work well with them.
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Bonjour quel est le modèle précis que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo l’outils stanliner ? Car sur le site je vois trois modèle (2 pour garde boue ) et (1) outil de cuillère à rouler ) lequel est celui que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo ? Merci au passage votre travail est fantastique
That's how I've tested my tools and tips. Scrap hoods and stands aren't just for trainees. Great job
Hell no! Practice is for everyone!
Awsome content, and it was good to meet you in Orlando MTE 2020🙏
On the dolly technique:
Look into old school metalfinishing tools known as "Ring Hammers" and "Ring Dollies"
I used to do all my small detail work with those and small "Jeweler's" hammers.
Also, if you are using a polished chasing hammer, or a Jewelers hammer, you can use the dolly technique with the VIP tip as well. Just make sure you are very gentile with the way you strike.
I think the VIP tip will be awesome for an oil can situation , but whale tail dolly is the way to go 👍
Agreed
As a 30 yr body tech , what amazes me are your knock down techniques , I like the stanley dollie on a stick hammer on technique as well ,always more to learn !
Always! As a 30 year body tech I’m willing to bet there’s more than a thing or two you could show me too!
Awesome job with the dolly
Great video Jim I like the look of both tools, very interesting the stanliner one, is there much chance of pushing the metal outward from the centre as appose to the vip tip pulling the metal towards the centre?
Being a panel beater and knowing all about dollies and techniques (some covered in my next vid 😉) I’d say you would be limited to size/depth using the stanliner before the dent stretched? What you think?
Cheers martin
Can’t wait to watch.
Yep, as I mentioned in another comment, I think in that situation, the two used in tandem would be fantastic.
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Great vid !!!!
Jim hi, all the techs are good.Each in its own defect will work.But everything will always end with a clean needle and an accurate hit to the point.
Yes, we didn’t clean these dents up afterwards. We just used the tools we were comparing
And the point? These are different tools, they are for different types of damage.
You did the same peak cons, and everywhere there were different leftovers.
It’s easier to push the center with a bullet with a cap. Tap the skirt and squeeze the point with a needle.
In any case, no one is forbidden to search and analyze, this is my personal opinion.
I put Like from the beginning, then looked.
Ремонт Вмятин 100%
Spiked tips was created long time ago by Russian guy, and this is not shrinking metal at any stage, but now they released “new idea” shrinking tips🤦🏻♂️ its just marketing scam, peoples buying and waisting his money on this useless VIP or GLEXO tips to hoping shrink metal,
Overstrained metal means , to much metal. And no way shrink just for pushing or taping, only way to shrink it is push and tap at the same time as Jim shows with stanliner tool.
@@Emigraves Yes, we did a lot of such attachments,and the search was long.And a hedgehog and a petal, but the best was a Cactus.It was first made by Yuri Petrenko, the oldest paint-free artist in Russia.Cactus is made in Austria, he gave the development and ptent there.It really works,and some defects without it, I will not take in repair.This nozzle has a needle tilt, works both soft and hard.She kicks her can fix Chris on itself when the lamp is not parallel and perpendicular.If interested, I can throw you a video description and where the original is sold.Jim please excuse me for these messages, in any case this is Your channel.I didn't test the Glexo and VIP attachments,and I can't say anything for them.But I immediately understand that they are not applicable on the peak cons of single ones.Sometimes manufacturers make and sell.And then they ask the masters how?
@@РемонтВмятин Добрый день Николай.Объясните на русском в двух словах.В чём прикол? Давил давил он этим ноу хау ананасом или чем там и всё равно остались зажованности и дно вмятины в спичечную головку во всех случаях.Я чтото не досмотрел или так надо?
Bonjour quel est le modèle précis que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo l’outils stanliner ? Car sur le site je vois trois modèle (2 pour garde boue ) et (1) outil de cuillère à rouler ) lequel est celui que vous utilisez dans votre vidéo ? Merci au passage votre travail est fantastique.
Nice job Jim
Where did you get the Stanliner dolly tip tool? I can't find anything like it on their site.
Stanliner has a bunch or tips like this if you make it to the shows.
Unfortunately other than that you’ll be using the killer whale tail which is still kind of rare to come across. If you see one for sale, snatch it up.... that’s the first tool I experimented with this technique using.
Worked like a charm. 2 dents I wouldnt normally even take on (bb style) done in 15 minutes 100 bucks a piece no need for wet sand or any kind of rework.
The killer whale also has tons of other uses, totally worthwhile tool if you can snag one
Your pdr videos are by far the best on UA-cam. Thanks for all your uploads!! Have you seen the alligator tools. It's a European company similar to stanliner.
I have seen them I don’t currently own any of them though
@@RealWorldPDRTraining it's just I live in the UK to get stanliner tools costs the price of a tool to delivery. The alligator tools are similar i think but cheaper to get delivered. I was hoping for a pro like you could say they are good. Thanks anyways
I’ll tell you what. It goes against everything in me. But I’ll order some and try them out.
My problem is they are using stanliner designs, and they are actually family of Stanliner.
So because I have a good relationship with stanliner I hadn’t bought any.
But because a subscriber wants to see it, I think that overrides any personal affiliation I have (which is minimal anyway)
@@RealWorldPDRTraining thank you very much.. I'll look forward to your new uploads. It's like this skill is almost a hidden trade that body shops paint suppliers don't want people to know about. Some of the dents you remove are very impressive. What a great skill to have and share.. Your a great UA-cam teacher with a great attitude. 👍
@@RealWorldPDRTraining do you want me to speak with alligator tools to see if they will send you some of their unique tools for review? I'm nothing to do with them but have already spoken to someone about doing some review's in English for usa and UK market. They seemed keen. Cheers
That technique looks awesome man I want to sign up for your online classes being a new pdr tech I enjoy your videos brother 👍
That technique wouldn’t be possible on a door without taking out glass and all that correct ? I don’t see that stanliner tool fitting in there
Correct. Door pad off would work well too.
And sign up! We are waiting for you.
Hey bud, where can I find that whale tail dolly rod like that. Thank you!
On an oversized stretched hail dent (non bb) would you still approach it with a sharp tip? or VIP/Glexo Sonic? I'm curious to know if it's worth the investment
Your objectivity and lack of an ego problem makes you an excellent instructor. I have pretty much quit watching other pdr videos, especially when the instructor has a foreign accent.
Thanks man!! I figure there are enough “god” characters out there a dude who does this for a living might be good to hear from.
Can you use the dolly method on the vip tip?
I’d be scared shitless!
Yeah me as well. I wouldn't try it on a customers car.
Nice job mate🇭🇲
Good job comparing both tips!
Both tips seems to do their job in different ways.
But killer whale tail does not shrink the metal....(?) So if the dent it's quite stretched where do you "send" that extra streched metal?
I think this would be an excellent time to combine both of these tools.
The killer whale won’t shrink anything, but will allow you to send the displaced (into the dent) metal back to its home. Leaving just the area needing gathered. The VIP tip would kill it in that situation.
@@RealWorldPDRTraining
That's what I was trying to understand. Perfect explanation!!
Thanks Jim
Which stanliner tool is that exactly?
That’s the killer whale tail.
@@RealWorldPDRTraining I want one but can’t find it!
That is sometimes the problem with SL. They don’t make large batches of tools, so sometimes you’ve gotta just be constantly checking the site
It’s a pain, I know.
That stanliner tip is priceless. If you guys aren't signed up for real world pdr monthly at www.realworldpdr.com your missing out there are so many tips like this.
Thank you! I’m glad I’ve been able to help people!
I do dents that can become oil canners all the time and most people work them wrong from the start.
Couldn’t agree more
Thank you for this video i wait for it from this time when this useless shrinking tips was released, as VIP AND GLEXO. WHEN I SEE IT FIRST TIME. I SAID. THIS TIPS VONT SHRINK METAL. AND I WAS RIGHT.
THERE IS BIG MARKETING GUYS, dont waist your money on “shrinking tips, as its very expensive and useless, Thanks again for this video you busted myth of shrinking tips👍🏻
Vip vs dolly better and betterer 😊
Badass
I don’t get it
Man I just use eyebrow wax on the end of my ignition puller 😂
I’d like to see the results of that.
Syper
Thank you
This nozzle will never work correctly. Just a scam for the money of dent repair masters. Not always plagiarism gives the desired result