THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting the opening analysis of the 10.49, and this race as a whole. It crushes all these 30 year later haters who simply can't accept the fact that she was JUST THAT GREAT.
Steroids, that's the problem. She went from a good sprinter to a record even now cannot be broken in just 1 year. She was enhanced. Should've been banned like Ben Johnson. It's a travesty that needs to be revisited. I put a * on that BS by Joyner. Ashford was the real deal.
@rebeltvr6046 Never a truer word said my friend. The athletes who have lost out since her drug cheating grows. What a horrible piece of athletics history.
I miss these years. They've slipped into olden days very quickly. I look at these images and ache for wishing I'd known how truly magical they were at the time.
@georgemallory797 They were horrendous years, a world record NOT believed by virtually all professionals. It still has an acrid stigma affecting all top female sprinters. She robbed athletics that day, how wrong you are.
@@HopeIanHopeFacts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Unfortunately, she only ran with Taka Forma one season in '88 And then she retired And worst of all, FLO JO died at a young age Now there is a lot of speculation about it R.I.P FLO JO
@@carlkinglewis She had a brain blood vessel abnormality which caused her epileptic seizures. She had one during her sleep and was suffocated. Her autopsy revealed no illicit drugs. She said online that she never used or would use drugs to cheat a victory. I believe her words 100 %.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Flo Jo’s form was so close to PERFECTION!! It always looked like she was Gliding on air!! May she continue to Rest Easy up there in that Eternal Track in Heaven🙏🏾🏃🏻♀️💨 There will never be another quite like her💯
@@timcollins3794 She had an aggressive form of cancer, which took her life. Do you understand? She could have been in chemotherapy, radiation or taking meds that were experimental for the cancer, at the time. They basically accused her with only speculative evidence. Flo Jo did not speak about her diagnosis with anyone outside of her circle. She would pass on not long after calling in her retirement, which was not long after they accused her, while battling the cancer... I believe she and her family are owed an apology.
There will be no other Flo Jo no other Evelyn Ashford and no other Gwendolyn Torrance. They are all fast in their own right. Evelyn paved the way for Flo Jo. Flo Jo paved the was for Gwendolyn. And Gwendolyn paved the way for Gail Devers and so on. But let's no forget about Wilma Rudolph. Who paved the way for them all. Oh my goodness. Wilma was like lightning. Now we have on more sprinter. Even though, she's not American. Merlin ottey the Jamaican sprinter. Fast in her own right as well. But I would have to say . The three lady's I looked up too all my life as a sprinter, was Wilma Rudolph, Evelyn Ashford and there will be no other like her Flo Jo.
The analysis about the wind controversy in this puts an end to all the controversy. So, for ~5 minutes, the wind was blowing at the side of the athletes and not a tail or head wind during Flo Jo's race. Brilliant.
Today is the 25th anniversary of FloJo's death. She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. There are people in our world who can do admirable things without any doping. Credit to FloJo. REST IN PEACE❤
Absolutely.. let’s not forget Evelyn Ashford , Gail Devers, Valeri Brisco Hooks, Alice Brown, Mary Decker- Slaney, Gwen Torrence, Jackie Joyner Kersey these women are legends in their own rite. 😅😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
Saying that FloJo could’ve beaten Jesse Owens was such a shit take. Jesse Owens ran on dirt/cinder, not the modern bouncy tracks. Shoe technology changed in those fifty years as well.
I agree! Also, that’s the same as folks saying Elaine today would’ve beaten FloJo. There will be major adjustments in training, diet, technique, track surfaces, and shoes. Don’t even get me started on the supplements and knowledge on science in many different fields that play a role. Simply put, Jesse Owens, all things considered, would have smoked Bolt today…running 10.2 under those conditions is like running a low 9 second 100M today. FloJo’s 10.49 in Tokyo or Eugene with those trampoline Nike’s everyone is wearing today would’ve been a friggin’ 10.3 today! The conversions, especially in just the shoes and track surfaces alone, are tremendous.
@@stevie586 Also, she would have tested positive. Even in my home country, people were saying that she was on drugs, just like many other runners from East Germany and Russia, who ran a couple of races and then retired when the anti-doping testing became more rigorous.
@@spanishlessons4075 not true! FloJo tested left and right, and they even ripped her body apart after she died…not sign of drug use was found whatsoever. Also, I’m laughing at you folks who keep repeating deceptive and untruthful information without first doing your research; FloJo retired February 1989, the ANNOUNCEMENT for random drug testing was in July 1989 (yah’ know, months after she retired?), and it was approved in October/November 1989, to later be enforced. So, please explain what’s up with this narrative she retired as a result of this when she retired prior to all of this? I’m waiting…
@@spanishlessons4075 Same O Same O Talk Talk Talk But Never Any Proof Or Facts. When You Have Nothing For Almost 35 Years And You Still Continue To Accuse Slander and Lie. Have You No Decency Or Shame? God Is Not Mocked As You Sow So Shall You Reap The Whirlwind! Very Sad And Pathetic! May God Have Mercy On Your Soul. Peace...
I said that two years ago with modern training knowledge Flo Jo would have been 10.3. Her consistent performances would have been 10.5. Her 200m would've been 21.0 or slightly better.
In a couple of her most recent faster races I've noticed Sha'carri start to show that same slightly leaning back 'floating' fluid running style as Flo-Jo in the latter part of the 100 metres.......it seems to be working well for her
She's not as smooth as FloJo but she's only 5'2''' or something, so she's not going to be able to duplicate FLoJo's form exactly. She definitely benefits from all of the improvements in technique and training that all female sprinters enjoy in the last couple of decades, something that FloJo was one of the first to start doing. She's surprisingly strong and her knee lift is beautiful, textbook.
It doesn't matter what the haters say, her form was perfect. People can make assumptions about steroid usage all they want, but I've never known roids to give a person perfect running form.
Was blesssed to be on the elevator at Embassy Suites hotel with Al and Flo Jo on our way to the final of the 200. I just told her she looks great but runs even better. Al Joyner said thank you and Flo Jo had a hugh sorta shy beautiful smile.
Evelyn Ashford....a class act! She had the fastest second place time in history in this race at her age..I think looking over her entire career. And time..on top. .our Greatest Sprinter ever!!! ..she graciously answered the reporters question in support of Flojo......I have to say Florencs voice was so deep....and the change in her body from the Olympics in 84 to the next few years was like night and day....her legs and how muscular she became....Like Evelyn said its possible.... and I love Flo jo.....I'm just not certain if I believe she was totally clean after watching Marion Jones unravel and Ben Johnson.🎉never the less 2 great champions here..🎉🎉🎉🎉
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
This is nonsense. There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice. Aside from her hair her body is EXACTLY the same size it was in 1984 four years later. There is a bit more definition in her shoulders but she is not larger and if anything her legs were larger in 1984 but less defined. Richardson, Jackson, and Fraser-Pryce look like trucks next to her. If she was juicing then definitely so are they. And FWIW, it was not so easy to avoid getting caught like everybody seems to think. If you remember and as you mentioned, the winner of the men's 100m (Ben Johnson) was stripped of his title and banned a day after he won at the very same Olympics in 1988. Please stop with the accusations you can't prove and have no basis in fact. As a former bodybuilder, if she was juicing, the drugs were not working.
They had similar body structure. Torri Bowie had a sweet, calm demeanor. Gwen Torrence had a defiant personality. The comparison is correct. Both women are beautiful athletes and sprinters.
I am a backyard meteorologist and i can tell you FloJo's 100 meter record was Not wind aided! The wind apparently did stop. And I can prove it. If you look at the full version about 2 minutes before the race started (when they were all standing there in their assigned lanes) any reasonable person can see the strands of their long hair was not blowin in the supposedly 15 mph wind. I seen a couple of strands move a little ,then it was not moving at all. If the wind was blowing 15 mph, their hair would be moving in the wind all over the place while simply just standing no matter if you use a whole bottle of Spritz hair spray or not. Even the judges around them hair was not moving. If you got long hair and you stick your head out of a car window at 15 mph your hair will be blowing like crazy. Sometimes the weather does crazy things. How does dirt devils spin right next to you at 30 mph and you feel no wind at all? How does it rain across the street but your house remains completely dry? Hurricane Patricia produced 215 mph winds but zero wind in the center? A tornado can wipe out all the houses on your side of the street and not touch the house right across the street. Even in high winds, the atmosphere can create pockets of no wind. Pilots deal with it all the time. It can cause a plain to suddenly drop 50 feet. There was no wind during that race.
You are simply wrong about there being no wind during FloJo’s “WR” 10.49. I was there. I was standing a few meters behind the start line extended, essentially in line with the wind gauge. There was definitely an aiding wind. Whether it was 3.0 m/s or 4.0 m/s will be forever unknown. But a triple jump essentially simultaneous with the 100 had a 4.3 m/s aiding wind. The TJ wind gauge and the 100 wind gauge were in fact rather close to each other. Had the wind reading for the 100 been even 2.0 m/s, I would not argue. But the actual wind was not 0.0 m/s.
Here's the problem with your theory: The race you described was not the 10.49 WR race. You gave a detailed description of the 10.79 she ran in this video. This clip shows a snippet of the 10.49 race, but it does not show the standing around and still hair before the 10.49. Your perfectly described her 10.79 race. Additionally, she gets a micro jump on the entire field. Was that *reaction time* or a *false start?* Put this clip on slow-mo at 6:56 and 8:18. She definitely moves before everyone else, but without sound, I cannot conclude that it was a false start.
@kelvikelv5322 OK, that's a very interesting argument because I've never heard that the video was actually 2 different videos spliced together. So where is the missing 2 minutes lineup for the 10.49 race? Even without it, your argument still proves my theory that the wind did stop blowing by admitting it wasn't blowing in her 10.79 run. There are clowns that claim they were there. And they're screaming the wind was blowing 15 mph the whole time. You just proved that there were times when the wind was not blowing.
@@hellbent7066 Remember... the 10.49 race was *the day before* the 10.79 race. Weather condition could likely have been very different. They inserted just the actual race in this video here. The video quality of the 10.49 race was really poor IMO, so I doubt you can see still or blowing hair in the wind.
Flo Jo had the most perfect top end sprinting form ever to this day. Men included. End of story. Her ability to ever so slightly lean back, get her hips and forelegs up so she could get her feet to actually accelerate backwards before they hit the ground was where her ability to maintain top speed lies. She relied heavily on her hamstrings to support her force when her foot hits the ground.. More so than any sprinter I have ever seen. She was no where near as muscular as the Jamaican women are and they still can't run as fast as she did.. I think she was the only sprinter to actually maintain her fastest 10 meter split times for 50 meters. Incredible. My question for all the coaches out there is why haven't they tried to replicate it. It's quite obvious that hurt form was that good
In a couple of her most recent faster races I've noticed Sha'carri start to show that same slightly leaning back 'floating' running style as Flo-Jo in the latter part of the 100 metres.......
@@jazzymars30 Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Amazing Video! I love the evolution of Flojo. While in college in the 1990s, that was my nickname for my appearance. Lol. I wish i had her skills😂😂❤❤❤❤
For the folks who keep talking about how windy it was that day, the explanation of the announcer makes tons of sense to counter their claims. Also, what many don’t realize, is, the winds are all over the place within the same day; it’s not a constant, and it doesn’t come from the same direction. For example, think 2021 when ShaCarri ran that first round into positive tail wind. The second round, a slightly (tail) windy 10.6. The third round, the ran 10.8 into a pretty strong head-wind! This is at the exact same track, and it went from too much tail wind to too much headwind. This happens, folks…the wind isn’t always consistent, and if it were blowing, it doesn’t mean it was specifically a tailwind. I’m not saying it wasn’t windy during her event, because it appears to be the case, but, we sprinters know that ish’t switches up on us fast, and before we know it, we are fighting a headwind; this especially got me in the hurdles!
I was there in 1988. Throughout the 100 “WR”, the wind was blowing from nearly directly behind the runners, and it was plenty strong. As the reading been 2.0 m/s, I might have believed it. But 0.0 m/s? No way!
@@ConsciousFBA FloJo’s 200 WR of 21.34 was set at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul with a legal +1.3 m/s aiding wind. Her supposed 100 WR of 10.49 was set at the 1988 US Olympic Trials in Indianapolis with a fictional 0.0 m/s wind. (A triple jump just a few meters away had a +4.3 m/s aiding wind.) Her actual 100 WR set that year was 10.61 with a legal +1.2 m/s aiding wind.
A Flo Jo biopic would be about 15 minutes long. Except 87-88 when she started running suspicious times, she was routinely beat by Ashford, Alice Brown, Merlene Ottey and more. If anybody knows the real deal it should be Carl Lewis.
Katochvilova, Koch, and Flo-Jo have some things in common. Same generation, impossible world records. I have the same respect all of them and I give them the same credit. Great athletes from "other era".
these 3 women produce 4 of oldest world records still exist in the book. kratochvilova 800m wr sets in 1983, Koch 400m wr sets in 1985, and flojo 100m & 200m wr set in 19988. also other world reords were set in the 1980's are still existing in the book, and among them are, men mammer throw wr sets in 1986, women shotput wr sets in 1987, women long jump, discus, heptathlon, and 4x400m relay wr set in 1988.
Nobody ran like 88 Flojo. Her form is something that no one after her has been able to emulate. Many athletes before and after her doped yet nobody ran like her.
The lady had epilepsy!!! And she was young but she lived for ten years after the Olympics! Look at the side by side and you can see her form was unbeatable
Exactly... she looks like she's flying over the track. I saw a video analyzing her strides, saying her feet spent the least time touching the track as any runner known, male or female, including the top male runners, like Bolt. She was so fast because her form was the best ever, and you can plainly see it as she runs. Steroids didn't create that flawless form. Training and talent did. No one since her has run with such perfection. Her running is virtually art. Amazing!
the jamacan girl got close a year or 2 ago well a lot closer than anyone has ever been but its true no one else has been anywere close since it was run im gonna take a guess and say the record will fall in the next 10 years its getting to that time now but if it does she was still 40-50 years ahead of her time
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
I don’t care what anyone says, I think there was a performance enhancer involved. She never ran in another Olympics. One of the other ladies even eluded to it.
Classic female sprinting from Flo Jo she looks like a weight 🏋️♂️ strong upper body and superb technique. Evelyn, typical female running style. I don't know about drugs. Some people are born to be great for a short time. No one has it all together everytime. Don't confuse a gift from God as ordinary...it's a dangerous thing in us when we love who we love and hate those we don't love.
Just before outa competition testing ? In reality I seriously don't think Griffith joyner was anywhere near as quick as Evelyn Ashford ? Good video though 👌
How do you know she doped, she couldn't have been that good because of her own dedication to her craft her training, her belief in her self and the goals she had set for herself. Give the woman her flowers
She wasn't..at all no shade .. FloJo knew what had to be done to better Evelyn.. everyone knew it!! .she couldn't touch Evelyn until the 88 Trials . May she rest in her Eternity🙏
I beg to differ. Half her organs were enlarged @ autopsy. Though there was no test for HGH @ time, no doubt in my mind she was drugging. 11.2 at best. Then, suddenly 10.49. Ashford was class act always.
she was abusing hgh and steroids- her face,body and voice changed to almost looking like a man (huge makeup to cover acne, plus facial hair can even see a moustache )
Now these are the women who REMAINED HUMBLE while they pioneered womens' track with grace, humble sportsmanship, dignity, integrity and never made controversy their "selfish attention hog" agenda. Ladies REMEMBER THOSE rising up against another..... it's not as much as a competion more than a collaboration. Stop helping race baiting and making controversy your agenda. "Its not if or when you win or lose or rise to the top.... it's how you play the game" #WatchThese #SportsWomen
The fact that so many ppl seem to have a lingering doubt... the majority it seems as well,that time should not have been ratified. Everyone knew and everybody knows the gut feeling told and still tells us... fowl play.
The mystery over Flo Jo was her unprecedented improvements over her form in 1984. PEDs or improvements in training? Either way, it remains unique in athletics.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
@@lalib.53You wrote it again and again,she was juiced,none can lowered her best from 11.00 to 10.5 in a year,being 28-29 years old . Had never been caught???East Germans had never been caught neither.
In the case of Flo Jo's doping accusations, no one has come forward with concrete evidence, which is why it cannot be based on rumours. The sad part is that the accusations continue with zero evidence. People spread malicious accusations fueled by jealousy and envy, but when I ask: Do you have concrete evidence to support the accusation? The answer is always missing... RIP Flo Jo❤
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
I personally think the 10.61 is probably what the record should be, but either way, no denying Flo Jo was IT. And for those on the US Team that wanted to talk that cash money ish about her being doped weren’t complaining when they medalled in the 4x100 and 4x400.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." DYOR
@@lalib.53 You're naive. Using her own quote is research? My former coach was an assistant on 88 Olympic team and he told me it was common knowledge that Bob Kersee drugged his athletes and that includes FloJo. When Ben Johnson got busted that sent a message that the IOC was taking an aggressive stance against PEDs and Griffith retired right before random testing was instituted. Then you had Darrell Robinson who said he sold HGH to FloJo. and Kersee said he could get anabolics for him. Get real.
Evelyn is still my favorite female sprinter of all time
I'm with you on that one!💯
Flo jo was juicing... Evelyn knew it... And was not happy
She's probably the cleanest as well. Seb Coe is probably the cleanest male track athlete of modern times. When he was running and now.
Mine to
Mine too ❤❤
THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting the opening analysis of the 10.49, and this race as a whole. It crushes all these 30 year later haters who simply can't accept the fact that she was JUST THAT GREAT.
Amen.
NMRK
@@cavaleer Stop it.😂
Steroids, that's the problem. She went from a good sprinter to a record even now cannot be broken in just 1 year. She was enhanced. Should've been banned like Ben Johnson. It's a travesty that needs to be revisited. I put a * on that BS by Joyner. Ashford was the real deal.
@rebeltvr6046 Never a truer word said my friend. The athletes who have lost out since her drug cheating grows. What a horrible piece of athletics history.
When FloJo turned around and said “Gwen” and went to embrace her, my soul smiled.
I miss these years. They've slipped into olden days very quickly. I look at these images and ache for wishing I'd known how truly magical they were at the time.
@georgemallory797 They were horrendous years, a world record NOT believed by virtually all professionals. It still has an acrid stigma affecting all top female sprinters. She robbed athletics that day, how wrong you are.
I saw FloJo win in 1988 Seoul Olympics. I was 8 years old. I never forgot this woman. I was saddened that she passed away.
YES WHAT A PITY THIS IS THE AMERICAN DREAM YOU CAN EAT SLOWLY NOW
@liongordel9088 Putting her up on a pedestal is your life-long mistake. I actually feel for you.
Flo Jo was poetry in Motion. However,Evelyn Ashford is my favourite...
Yes!
And on drugs
@@HopeIanHopeFacts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them.
FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Flo Jo was steroids in motion
@@docmarvel2388 then how did she pass all the doping tests?????
I LUV T&F...and these ladies.
Those ladies were the "Best of the Best" back in the day! 🦋🌹
Thanks. This is very valuable footage and commentary because there are plenty of haters who still try to slander her WR.
Not possible that the wind was zero.
Please somebody digital remaster these. The children need to see these races.......
Awesome to watch these great women! I love Flo Jo ❤
Boy, this is a true runners lineup. Wow.
Incredible Competition. Incredible Queen of the Women's Sprint Florence G Joyner
This is true Carl.😊
Her form is sooo unique. Never seen anyone male or female run like that. It's perfect.
Unfortunately, she only ran with Taka Forma one season in '88
And then she retired
And worst of all, FLO JO died at a young age
Now there is a lot of speculation about it
R.I.P FLO JO
@@carlkinglewis do us all a favor stfu. She took all drug tests and never failed one. I thought it was only the pink people. Guess not.
@@carlkinglewis only haters can hate on that form. The rest of us believe that smoothness & panache is sth no amount of drugs can do.
Elaine Thompson runs like her
@@carlkinglewis She had a brain blood vessel abnormality which caused her epileptic seizures. She had one during her sleep and was suffocated. Her autopsy revealed no illicit drugs. She said online that she never used or would use drugs to cheat a victory. I believe her words 100 %.
Evelyn Ashford was the best of her generation hands down!
A humble talent and a seemingly sweet soul ❤️
Evelyn Ashford was one of my track heroes when I started running.
Absolutely…..and CLEAN…..
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Yes she was and I ran track with the at the 1988 Olympic trails, in Indiana.
I have never seen anyone be so excited and joyous after coming third in a race. 🥰. FloJo, Ashford and Torrence. 🤗
Flo Jo’s form was so close to PERFECTION!! It always looked like she was Gliding on air!! May she continue to Rest Easy up there in that Eternal Track in Heaven🙏🏾🏃🏻♀️💨 There will never be another quite like her💯
Enough Said!!! Thank You!!! Peace...
@@timcollins3794That makes no damn sense.
@@timcollins3794 She had an aggressive form of cancer, which took her life. Do you understand? She could have been in chemotherapy, radiation or taking meds that were experimental for the cancer, at the time. They basically accused her with only speculative evidence. Flo Jo did not speak about her diagnosis with anyone outside of her circle. She would pass on not long after calling in her retirement, which was not long after they accused her, while battling the cancer... I believe she and her family are owed an apology.
@@timcollins3794 Form needs to be learnt. The addition of steroids gave her a significant edge. Combine the two and you have 10.49.
@@Nii1978that’s your opinion not proven. Stop 🛑 the nonsense
Love Flo's running style.
There will be no other Flo Jo no other Evelyn Ashford and no other Gwendolyn Torrance. They are all fast in their own right. Evelyn paved the way for Flo Jo. Flo Jo paved the was for Gwendolyn. And Gwendolyn paved the way for Gail Devers and so on. But let's no forget about Wilma Rudolph. Who paved the way for them all. Oh my goodness. Wilma was like lightning. Now we have on more sprinter. Even though, she's not American. Merlin ottey the Jamaican sprinter. Fast in her own right as well. But I would have to say . The three lady's I looked up too all my life as a sprinter, was Wilma Rudolph, Evelyn Ashford and there will be no other like her Flo Jo.
The analysis about the wind controversy in this puts an end to all the controversy. So, for ~5 minutes, the wind was blowing at the side of the athletes and not a tail or head wind during Flo Jo's race.
Brilliant.
Gwen and I went to H.S. together and hung out at my Aunts house with my cousins! We got up to all kinds of tomfoolery 😊
Gwen was my favorite. I saw her run at the 96 games.
Today is the 25th anniversary of FloJo's death. She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. There are people in our world who can do admirable things without any doping. Credit to FloJo. REST IN PEACE❤
Rest in peace while 10.49 flares agonizingly.
A filthy cheat and everyone knows it.
Absolutely.. let’s not forget Evelyn Ashford , Gail Devers, Valeri Brisco Hooks, Alice Brown, Mary Decker- Slaney, Gwen Torrence, Jackie Joyner Kersey these women are legends in their own rite. 😅😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
It's funny how Johnson and Joyner were doing this at the same time. Joiners family should be paying Ashford millions.
@@jonathanlegg4308 Funny how you make accusations with zero evidence in hand. You should pay the Joyner family millions for your false accusations.
I love the commentary to show how the times progressed. They should do that more often to show how amazing some world records are.
Legends never die! Flo-Jo!❤️
Wow, both very fast competitors!! Thanks for posting this
Saying that FloJo could’ve beaten Jesse Owens was such a shit take. Jesse Owens ran on dirt/cinder, not the modern bouncy tracks. Shoe technology changed in those fifty years as well.
I agree! Also, that’s the same as folks saying Elaine today would’ve beaten FloJo. There will be major adjustments in training, diet, technique, track surfaces, and shoes. Don’t even get me started on the supplements and knowledge on science in many different fields that play a role. Simply put, Jesse Owens, all things considered, would have smoked Bolt today…running 10.2 under those conditions is like running a low 9 second 100M today. FloJo’s 10.49 in Tokyo or Eugene with those trampoline Nike’s everyone is wearing today would’ve been a friggin’ 10.3 today! The conversions, especially in just the shoes and track surfaces alone, are tremendous.
@@stevie586 Also, she would have tested positive. Even in my home country, people were saying that she was on drugs, just like many other runners from East Germany and Russia, who ran a couple of races and then retired when the anti-doping testing became more rigorous.
@@spanishlessons4075 not true! FloJo tested left and right, and they even ripped her body apart after she died…not sign of drug use was found whatsoever. Also, I’m laughing at you folks who keep repeating deceptive and untruthful information without first doing your research; FloJo retired February 1989, the ANNOUNCEMENT for random drug testing was in July 1989 (yah’ know, months after she retired?), and it was approved in October/November 1989, to later be enforced. So, please explain what’s up with this narrative she retired as a result of this when she retired prior to all of this? I’m waiting…
@@spanishlessons4075 Same O Same O Talk Talk Talk But Never Any Proof Or Facts. When You Have Nothing For Almost 35 Years And You Still Continue To Accuse Slander and Lie. Have You No Decency Or Shame? God Is Not Mocked As You Sow So Shall You Reap The Whirlwind! Very Sad And Pathetic! May God Have Mercy On Your Soul. Peace...
I said that two years ago with modern training knowledge Flo Jo would have been 10.3. Her consistent performances would have been 10.5. Her 200m would've been 21.0 or slightly better.
Nobody ever beats this version of Flo Jo. No one.
florence sprint technique is phenomenal. Never repeated by anyone.
Wish that sprint technique were displayed in Los Angeles in 1984! It would have made her 10.49 less controversial.
Flo Jo technique is crazy
In a couple of her most recent faster races I've noticed Sha'carri start to show that same slightly leaning back 'floating' fluid running style as Flo-Jo in the latter part of the 100 metres.......it seems to be working well for her
True, she just needs to work on her starts
She's not as smooth as FloJo but she's only 5'2''' or something, so she's not going to be able to duplicate FLoJo's form exactly. She definitely benefits from all of the improvements in technique and training that all female sprinters enjoy in the last couple of decades, something that FloJo was one of the first to start doing. She's surprisingly strong and her knee lift is beautiful, textbook.
Shacaari nothing near flo jo.......
It doesn't matter what the haters say, her form was perfect. People can make assumptions about steroid usage all they want, but I've never known roids to give a person perfect running form.
Exactly!! Her form is perfect! And it did not come from steroids!
Was blesssed to be on the elevator at Embassy Suites hotel with Al and Flo Jo on our way to the final of the 200. I just told her she looks great but runs even better. Al Joyner said thank you and Flo Jo had a hugh sorta shy beautiful smile.
The greatest American female sprint trio.
flo jo, the GOAT..
You hear that haters?! Officially 10.49 was not aided by a tail wind, it was coming in from the side which was why the sensors didn't register it.
Did you hear her talk at the end, no woman has a voice like that unless ...
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Evelyn Ashford....a class act! She had the fastest second place time in history in this race at her age..I think looking over her entire career. And time..on top. .our Greatest Sprinter ever!!! ..she graciously answered the reporters question in support of Flojo......I have to say Florencs voice was so deep....and the change in her body from the Olympics in 84 to the next few years was like night and day....her legs and how muscular she became....Like Evelyn said its possible.... and I love Flo jo.....I'm just not certain if I believe she was totally clean after watching Marion Jones unravel and Ben Johnson.🎉never the less 2 great champions here..🎉🎉🎉🎉
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
This is nonsense. There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice. Aside from her hair her body is EXACTLY the same size it was in 1984 four years later. There is a bit more definition in her shoulders but she is not larger and if anything her legs were larger in 1984 but less defined. Richardson, Jackson, and Fraser-Pryce look like trucks next to her. If she was juicing then definitely so are they. And FWIW, it was not so easy to avoid getting caught like everybody seems to think. If you remember and as you mentioned, the winner of the men's 100m (Ben Johnson) was stripped of his title and banned a day after he won at the very same Olympics in 1988. Please stop with the accusations you can't prove and have no basis in fact. As a former bodybuilder, if she was juicing, the drugs were not working.
Facts just like Marion
Passed drug test until her husbands divorce he spilled the tea…. She confessed….
Gwen Terrence reminds me of Tori Bowie 🙏
They had similar body structure. Torri Bowie had a sweet, calm demeanor. Gwen Torrence had a defiant
personality. The comparison is correct. Both women are beautiful athletes and sprinters.
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I am a backyard meteorologist and i can tell you FloJo's 100 meter record was Not wind aided! The wind apparently did stop. And I can prove it. If you look at the full version about 2 minutes before the race started (when they were all standing there in their assigned lanes) any reasonable person can see the strands of their long hair was not blowin in the supposedly 15 mph wind. I seen a couple of strands move a little ,then it was not moving at all. If the wind was blowing 15 mph, their hair would be moving in the wind all over the place while simply just standing no matter if you use a whole bottle of Spritz hair spray or not. Even the judges around them hair was not moving. If you got long hair and you stick your head out of a car window at 15 mph your hair will be blowing like crazy.
Sometimes the weather does crazy things. How does dirt devils spin right next to you at 30 mph and you feel no wind at all? How does it rain across the street but your house remains completely dry? Hurricane Patricia produced 215 mph winds but zero wind in the center? A tornado can wipe out all the houses on your side of the street and not touch the house right across the street. Even in high winds, the atmosphere can create pockets of no wind. Pilots deal with it all the time. It can cause a plain to suddenly drop 50 feet. There was no wind during that race.
Very Well Said👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
You are simply wrong about there being no wind during FloJo’s “WR” 10.49. I was there. I was standing a few meters behind the start line extended, essentially in line with the wind gauge. There was definitely an aiding wind. Whether it was 3.0 m/s or 4.0 m/s will be forever unknown. But a triple jump essentially simultaneous with the 100 had a 4.3 m/s aiding wind. The TJ wind gauge and the 100 wind gauge were in fact rather close to each other. Had the wind reading for the 100 been even 2.0 m/s, I would not argue. But the actual wind was not 0.0 m/s.
Here's the problem with your theory: The race you described was not the 10.49 WR race. You gave a detailed description of the 10.79 she ran in this video. This clip shows a snippet of the 10.49 race, but it does not show the standing around and still hair before the 10.49. Your perfectly described her 10.79 race.
Additionally, she gets a micro jump on the entire field. Was that *reaction time* or a *false start?* Put this clip on slow-mo at 6:56 and 8:18. She definitely moves before everyone else, but without sound, I cannot conclude that it was a false start.
@kelvikelv5322 OK, that's a very interesting argument because I've never heard that the video was actually 2 different videos spliced together. So where is the missing 2 minutes lineup for the 10.49 race? Even without it, your argument still proves my theory that the wind did stop blowing by admitting it wasn't blowing in her 10.79 run. There are clowns that claim they were there. And they're screaming the wind was blowing 15 mph the whole time. You just proved that there were times when the wind was not blowing.
@@hellbent7066 Remember... the 10.49 race was *the day before* the 10.79 race. Weather condition could likely have been very different. They inserted just the actual race in this video here. The video quality of the 10.49 race was really poor IMO, so I doubt you can see still or blowing hair in the wind.
Flo Jo had the most perfect top end sprinting form ever to this day. Men included. End of story. Her ability to ever so slightly lean back, get her hips and forelegs up so she could get her feet to actually accelerate backwards before they hit the ground was where her ability to maintain top speed lies. She relied heavily on her hamstrings to support her force when her foot hits the ground.. More so than any sprinter I have ever seen. She was no where near as muscular as the Jamaican women are and they still can't run as fast as she did.. I think she was the only sprinter to actually maintain her fastest 10 meter split times for 50 meters. Incredible. My question for all the coaches out there is why haven't they tried to replicate it. It's quite obvious that hurt form was that good
Thank you very much for the comment
Elaine still looks more feminine and they are around the closest in terms of muscle to fat ratio
The queen of drugs shame
In a couple of her most recent faster races I've noticed Sha'carri start to show that same slightly leaning back 'floating' running style as Flo-Jo in the latter part of the 100 metres.......
@@jcornwall6228Elaine arms are much larger
Mother Nature is cruel, not allowing her to grow old. Her star still shines.
It's the drugs not nature
abusing HGH, Test,,winstrol being a female has its own consequences
@@bernardo2151 Any evidence?
@lalib.53 you have any evidence she didn't?
@@jazzymars30 Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them.
FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
These are the best female runners in the World
Thanks so much for sharing this.
Flow flow amazing track runner God bless you in heaven God bless you in heaven
Evenlyn and Gwen are naturally my selections.
FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
@@lalib.53 with hgh and anabolics too
@@bernardo2151 Any evidence?
Evelyn Ashford! ❤❤❤💖💖💖💯
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Real Queen
@@totypr Definitely! ❤❤
FloJo the real Queen❤
@@lalib.53 FloDope the Queen of Dopin' fo' sho! She even had the mustache to prove it!
The greatest female sprinter of all time
Amazing Video! I love the evolution of Flojo. While in college in the 1990s, that was my nickname for my appearance. Lol. I wish i had her skills😂😂❤❤❤❤
This race would have been even more legendary, if Gail Devers was running in it too.
I love her in the hurdle races❤️❤️🔥🔥
To think Gail was almost dead during this trials due to graves
@@Poundcakebowler exactly they actually told her she'd never run again...but she did
@@tericaclark4871 yep.
With her two back to back wins…….she made it 9 in a row for the US women in the 100
@@Poundcakebowler yes and she did those hurdles like it was nothing 💪🏾💪🏾🔥🔥
For the folks who keep talking about how windy it was that day, the explanation of the announcer makes tons of sense to counter their claims. Also, what many don’t realize, is, the winds are all over the place within the same day; it’s not a constant, and it doesn’t come from the same direction. For example, think 2021 when ShaCarri ran that first round into positive tail wind. The second round, a slightly (tail) windy 10.6. The third round, the ran 10.8 into a pretty strong head-wind! This is at the exact same track, and it went from too much tail wind to too much headwind. This happens, folks…the wind isn’t always consistent, and if it were blowing, it doesn’t mean it was specifically a tailwind. I’m not saying it wasn’t windy during her event, because it appears to be the case, but, we sprinters know that ish’t switches up on us fast, and before we know it, we are fighting a headwind; this especially got me in the hurdles!
I was there in 1988. Throughout the 100 “WR”, the wind was blowing from nearly directly behind the runners, and it was plenty strong. As the reading been 2.0 m/s, I might have believed it. But 0.0 m/s? No way!
The other thing is she also set the record in the 200. Was that wind aided too? These people are ridiculous with all their theories. RIP to the Queen.
@@ConsciousFBA
FloJo’s 200 WR of 21.34 was set at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul with a legal +1.3 m/s aiding wind. Her supposed 100 WR of 10.49 was set at the 1988 US Olympic Trials in Indianapolis with a fictional 0.0 m/s wind. (A triple jump just a few meters away had a +4.3 m/s aiding wind.) Her actual 100 WR set that year was 10.61 with a legal +1.2 m/s aiding wind.
@@RichardIILionheart The point is, she was still fast. Get that?
@@ConsciousFBA
Yes, FloJo was very fast. I have a problem only with her 10.49 being ratified as the WR when I know the 0.0 m/s wind reading was bogus.
Flojo’s record of 100m can’t be broken
Probably not as the drug testing is way better these days😢
@@chrisspellman8545 she never used any drugs
@@chrisspellman8545never used drugs yall wish
what are you talking about someone ran a 10.54. you all trippin
@@chrisspellman8545she was the most tested athlete even she died and the all came back NEGITIVE..
All of these women were my favorite and they were no joke on that track!!!
This final acceleration is definitely her trade mark
As proven by her still standing 200m WR.
A Flo Jo biopic would be about 15 minutes long. Except 87-88 when she started running suspicious times, she was routinely beat by Ashford, Alice Brown, Merlene Ottey and more. If anybody knows the real deal it should be Carl Lewis.
Great Legendary Runners
Katochvilova, Koch, and Flo-Jo have some things in common. Same generation, impossible world records. I have the same respect all of them and I give them the same credit. Great athletes from "other era".
these 3 women produce 4 of oldest world records still exist in the book. kratochvilova 800m wr sets in 1983, Koch 400m wr sets in 1985, and flojo 100m & 200m wr set in 19988. also other world reords were set in the 1980's are still existing in the book, and among them are, men mammer throw wr sets in 1986, women shotput wr sets in 1987, women long jump, discus, heptathlon, and 4x400m relay wr set in 1988.
Those days were magic, Flo Joe runs like a guzzle beautiful motion, especially in slow motion. Love her❤
Great video quality 👍🏽
Nobody ran like 88 Flojo. Her form is something that no one after her has been able to emulate. Many athletes before and after her doped yet nobody ran like her.
Beautiful
Jesse Owens wasn't coming out of blocks, big difference.
The lady had epilepsy!!! And she was young but she lived for ten years after the Olympics! Look at the side by side and you can see her form was unbeatable
Flo Jo the greatest ❤️
Jesus Christ! She's floating!
Exactly... she looks like she's flying over the track. I saw a video analyzing her strides, saying her feet spent the least time touching the track as any runner known, male or female, including the top male runners, like Bolt. She was so fast because her form was the best ever, and you can plainly see it as she runs. Steroids didn't create that flawless form. Training and talent did. No one since her has run with such perfection. Her running is virtually art. Amazing!
I don’t understand how the record has stayed so untouched this long. Not even close.
the jamacan girl got close a year or 2 ago well a lot closer than anyone has ever been but its true no one else has been anywere close since it was run im gonna take a guess and say the record will fall in the next 10 years its getting to that time now but if it does she was still 40-50 years ahead of her time
Ashford was the best clean American women's sprinter ever
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them.
FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Flo Jo 🎉what a running tactics 👏 she applied. ❤😂🎉
It perfectly combined the qualities of strength, calmness, tactics and relaxation. RIP Queen.❤
This goes to show she really was that fast.
Jesse ran the 100yd dash. You not only need to convert the hand dime but the length too. He ran 10.2 at ncaas after olympics
Usa's greatest women's track and field team, EVER!
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I don’t care what anyone says, I think there was a performance enhancer involved. She never ran in another Olympics. One of the other ladies even eluded to it.
You are just jealous. Take a hike
The drugs they say she never took was the same drugs that took her life. Let's leave it at that!
Classic female sprinting from Flo Jo she looks like a weight 🏋️♂️ strong upper body and superb technique. Evelyn, typical female running style. I don't know about drugs. Some people are born to be great for a short time. No one has it all together everytime. Don't confuse a gift from God as ordinary...it's a dangerous thing in us when we love who we love and hate those we don't love.
Just before outa competition testing ? In reality I seriously don't think Griffith joyner was anywhere near as quick as Evelyn Ashford ? Good video though 👌
U saw it with your own eyes thar she was quick n still gonna say Griffith Joyner wasn't as quick as Evelyn? Where were your eyes
How do you know she doped, she couldn't have been that good because of her own dedication to her craft her training, her belief in her self and the goals she had set for herself. Give the woman her flowers
In Other Words>Don't Believe Your Lying Eyes! Very Sad And Pathetic!
She wasn't..at all no shade .. FloJo knew what had to be done to better Evelyn.. everyone knew it!! .she couldn't touch Evelyn until the 88 Trials . May she rest in her Eternity🙏
Flo Jo was no joke🔥🔥
Pressure 🔥🔥
I beg to differ. Half her organs were enlarged @ autopsy. Though there was no test for HGH @ time, no doubt in my mind she was drugging.
11.2 at best. Then, suddenly 10.49.
Ashford was class act always.
@@saladinallah5299 she ran a 10.61 dude go sit down
she was abusing hgh and steroids- her face,body and voice changed to almost looking like a man (huge makeup to cover acne, plus facial hair can even see a moustache )
Carl Lewis should give back Ben Johnson his gold medal from 88 olympics since six of the eight athletes were on “juice”. To me that was a fair race
Now these are the women who REMAINED HUMBLE while they pioneered womens' track with grace, humble sportsmanship, dignity, integrity and never made controversy their "selfish attention hog" agenda.
Ladies REMEMBER THOSE rising up against another..... it's not as much as a competion more than a collaboration.
Stop helping race baiting and making controversy your agenda.
"Its not if or when you win or lose or rise to the top.... it's how you play the game"
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The fact that so many ppl seem to have a lingering doubt... the majority it seems as well,that time should not have been ratified.
Everyone knew and everybody knows the gut feeling told and still tells us... fowl play.
Lol Karma Is Real.
....chickens were involved?!!.....
The mystery over Flo Jo was her unprecedented improvements over her form in 1984.
PEDs or improvements in training?
Either way, it remains unique in athletics.
when are we going to have another Flo Jo?
Jessie Owen ran On dirt without a starting block..
Her feet barely touches the ground. That form was amazing
Was FloJo's voice that deep when she won the silver in the 200m? Just asking. Plenty of people have naturally deep voices. I do myself.
And, maybe I'm reaching here, but Evelyn Ashford both looks and sounds a bit like Chris Rock.
Evelyn Ashfird never juiced. FloJo absolutely did.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
@@lalib.53You wrote it again and again,she was juiced,none can lowered her best from 11.00 to 10.5 in a year,being 28-29 years old .
Had never been caught???East Germans had never been caught neither.
In the case of Flo Jo's doping accusations, no one has come forward with concrete evidence, which is why it cannot be based on rumours. The sad part is that the accusations continue with zero evidence. People spread malicious accusations fueled by jealousy and envy, but when I ask: Do you have concrete evidence to support the accusation? The answer is always missing... RIP Flo Jo❤
Florence Griffith Joyner G.O.A.T jak na razie.Ale czekam na Następczynie
Her records still stands, but Elaine Thompson and Shericka Jackson have come close to her records so her records are underthreat
juiced,juiced,juiced! and Evelyn knew it just read into her interview ,in fact, Gwen knew it too, Evelyn was the best ever during that time period.
You are so bitter .. Get off the couch and go exercise you failed athlete
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
I personally think the 10.61 is probably what the record should be, but either way, no denying Flo Jo was IT. And for those on the US Team that wanted to talk that cash money ish about her being doped weren’t complaining when they medalled in the 4x100 and 4x400.
American Sprinters Are The Best In The World 🌎🌎🌎 Period... Just Look At Our Legacy... God Has Really Blessed & Is Blessing ❤️🙏🏼❤️ Us.
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Legacy?
Of what drug cheats?
You know the spiteful Jamaicans are going to be all over this post, even if they know in reality it is true.
This is for all those who dont know hx and didnt realize Americans BEEN winning in Track & Field. Ha! They're def out there wandering. ☺
The 80's were made for 4K
10:61 is still Olympic Gold right now!
FloJo L👀Ks spankin’ in that outfit! 🤩❤
Evelyn Ashford is the best and cleanest female USA athlete.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them.
FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Evelyn was fast!!!
FloJo the best ever❤
I watched her run at the Seoul Olympics
Veronica Campbell brown of Jamaica runs like Evelyn Ashford.the sprinting style ,the way they put their legs when running
The real suspicion was Flo-Jo retiring at the top of her game the day before they instituted random drug testing
Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all."
DYOR
@@lalib.53 You're naive. Using her own quote is research? My former coach was an assistant on 88 Olympic team and he told me it was common knowledge that Bob Kersee drugged his athletes and that includes FloJo. When Ben Johnson got busted that sent a message that the IOC was taking an aggressive stance against PEDs and Griffith retired right before random testing was instituted. Then you had Darrell Robinson who said he sold HGH to FloJo. and Kersee said he could get anabolics for him. Get real.
Pure beauty..!
Sha’Carri needs to study Flo Jo’s technique and she’ll be a force to reckon with.
Her husband did something to her, and everybody knew it! Jealous mfkr...
He help them to do away with her.