@@simonlawrenson6972 That's the rub. they can say "lower taxes" knowing full well that the rich hear it and understand that it means primarily for them, and the poor will hear it and think it's for them when it's not really, but the Tories won't have technically lied because they did lower taxes (for the rich, mostly). And where as any other policy that would sound good to a poor person (build homes, increase pay, fund the NHS) would actually benefit poor people. "Lower taxes" is the one thing they can promise that sounds like a good a thing to the poor people, but unambiqiously benefits the rich.
australian conservatives are now saying lower taxes for low wage earners is 'welfare' but its ok for extremely rich people. it's basically 'rich people deserve tax cuts and the rest of you can fuck yourselves. Vote for us!' And then; lower wage earners vote for the right wingers because they say 'we have tortured refugees and you love that'
The UK likes to think of itself as an isolated island halfway between the US and Europe and now it has the economy of an isolated island stranded in the atlantic
Keep in mind that both of these dipshits have been sitting across the room from each other in the House of Commons spitballing each other since Sunak came into office. If there was any vengeance to be sworn, it’s been done already and they both just want this over with at this point.
uh no, raising taxes will actually hurt working middle class more as the ultra wealthy simply would move their finance elsewhere while continuing to operate in the uk.
Wild af Starmer says “taxes and government costs are at an all time high for people” and Sunak actually says “why are you talking about the past? I’m here for the future and we’re going to make things better” fucking insane haha
He could actually lose his seat, there is an independent to the left of him running and no conservative on the ballot. The constituency was pretty solid labour before Starmer's left wing purge and there has been a turn in recent months towards independents, greens and the workers party. There has also been a steady growth of third parties, independents and local associations/parties on local councils for the last 4 or 5 years.
@@Phyt5 that's what we are doing now. We need time to build them. Vaush has even said there can be economic reasons to limit immigration and this is one of them.
If you listen to other Labour MPs on immigration, they actually make a good arguement for limiting immigration. Yes, immigration is a net good that enriches the UK, but neither side of the arguement seem to want to acknowledge that it's an incredibly complex and nuanced issue (particularly when it comes to things like housing and public services). The UK, for example, is currently massively reliant on migrant labour to fill in vacancies within our public services, instead of training people here in the UK. However, this also means we are taking skilled workers (such as doctors and nurses) from poorer countries that also need those workers. We're literally taking doctors and nurses from red list countries. Imo, that is unethical and we should be training people here to do those jobs.
"I really can't help but feel like you guys deserve all you're getting." Vaush... I've been watching you for a while, that was probably the worst thing you've ever said. I voted against brexit, I voted againt leaving the EU, I voted for Scottish independence. Why do I deserve what's going on?
Where the title says don't watch this... maybe I really shouldn't have watched this, it's definitely ruining my day. I always do my best to stand against ignorance and bigotry. But instead of encouragement to keep trying, I get told that I deserve what I'm getting.
@@LaylaSpellwind Vaush is simply incredibly ignorant when it comes to the UK and really anything outside his particular small area of knowledge. He is very dogmatic about many things and assigning blame to people that don't deserve it is common rhetoric for him. When it comes to this stuff, he is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Vaush’s comments on the UK are ignorant and pointlessly insulting. The US voted in Trump for 4 years and is uncomfortably close to doing so again. Maybe put your own house in order first?
@@DonQuickZote Yeah, I doubt he'd have the same mind to say that everyone in America deserves 4 more years of Trump. I'm taking a break from Vaush, I like him, but he does say some stupid stuff sometimes. This one really bothered me. It's going to be tough to let go of that.
Right! Also missing context here is how the day after the debate Sunak was called out for lying during the debate and got loads of bad press. Ends up being a win for Starmer Even though he wasn't great on the night
I need to stop watching these. Vaush really doesn't know much about the UK at all. Basically has enough knowledge to have a passing conversation with another American, but shows his ignorance massively to a British audience. (aware the title told me not to watch, but the thumbnail made me curious)
Yeah the only time he'll say "I'm not familiar with this" or "I don't know" is when he thinks 99% of his audience is uninformed as he is. But when it's like 50% he'll try to BS his way through by confidently pretending he knows more than he actually does.
Completely true. Vaush talks constantly about voting for the lesser of two evils, but the second it's about the UK his brain turns to soup like 'durhgh Kid Starver both sides r baddd'. Starmer and Sunak are nowhere even close to equally bad, and this is no time to pretend otherwise. One is a spineless lib, the other is a corporate vampire who wants to hunt the homeless for sport, if you can't conceive a harm-reduction argument on that basis then you really shouldn't be talking about politics.
@@PhoeniX199777 Basically if you see Vaush talking about politics in any country other than the US run in the other direction. His takes on Turkey are absolutely crap as well
Would you mind elaborating a bit on why? I'm not trying to criticize, I'm just genuinely curious because I'm just another American and take shit here at face value like Vaush is doing, however I do actually care to learn more and just don't know where to start.
Starmer let Sunak repeat the lie about Labour's £2000 tax increase several times so he could well and truly implement himself. A classic case of not interrupting your enemy when he's making a mistake.
@@DrippyWaffler nope, the 2k thing has been thoroughly rebutted by the media to the point that most people dont know anything about the debate other than than that sunak lied, alongside the D-Day fiasco the tory party is finished
You know it's bad. I as an American who is truly expecting a shit show in my country in November is watching this and the only thing I can think of is holy shit This sounds like a political debate that you do in high school.
So this guy repeats that the labor party would raise taxes. Guy from labor party points out that the PM raised taxes. PM guy response with "Of course you would bring up the past, this is about the future" LMAO What!?
"I'm going to cut taxes and protect your pensions!" Sure, let's say I believe you, Sunak, but with what infrastructure? Without taxes, you aren't paying for any supposed protections. It's like they never left the austerity strategy behind even after years of failure.
The future for the UK is grim, very grim! That's why i got out after the brexit vote, sad to say I have no love for my country any more and plan to never return.
"Sir how are you going to ensure that I'm not so terribly in debt?" "I'm going to lower taxes. Also the economy is doing great!" Completely detached from the concerns of people. That's why rich people shouldn't even be allowed near the reigns of power.
I understand people hating the UK but if you lived here and saw just how many people are in poverty I think you'd be less likely to say we 'deserve' it. Yes, a lot of people don't want to use their brains/do some critical thinking and would rather be told the immigrants, trans people etc are to blame and vote against their own interests. But there's also a lot of decent people too. I get the meme of hating us but idk it does feel a bit grim. Call me a snowflake or whatever but I do find the extent of it bizarre. And I get the thing about we should protest more and we definitely should, but never underestimate the fatigue of being overworked and underpaid. People are so tired they don't want to think or go out and protest on their day off, that's part of the problem
Don’t watch the video btw. Vaush on the UK is really painful, taking joy in the downfall of my home is really painful. It’s definitely not very leftist of him.
@@Pee-z9nit’s not as bad as he makes out m. He’s pretty clueless on most of his takes. He looked at one study a while back about income and thinks everyone is in abject poverty. He’s an idiot
As a 55 year old Brit all I can say is that I am completely sickened and utterly depressed... and broke. And now my large university employer has said it wants to get rid of 400 of it's 2000 non-academic staff, because the poor economy, social instability, and hostile environment, means the intake of domestic and foreign students has plummeted.
You remember the "meme" of Dad's saying "Don't Touch the Thermostat"? "The car AC stays off if you don't chip in with gas?" "Are we feeding the whole damn neighbourhood?" For most people, money was tight, money is tighter even now and despite the "economy" growing and big corporations making it record profits, it is pooling at the top.
@@kingflynxi9420 In a general election you vote for an MP true, but, people vote for the broader vision of the party, which is set out by the leader, and supposedly delivered by their MP. I don't think anyone can honestly say what we have now under Sunak and the disaster under Truss was, in any way, chosen by the electorate.
35:08 No, the ECHR isn't being enforced by the European Commission, the European Commission is the executive power of the European Union, which the UK left in 2020. The ECHR is from the Council of Europe, a different group that enforces human rights and also contains countries like Turkey, Serbia and Ukraine. The UK pulling out the ECHR and thereby probably the CoE would put them at the same level of Russia and Belarus.
Even worse that the £2000 figure that Sunak threw at Starmer has been found out to be a completely fictionalised figure made up to try to hurt his image, which is now being used to hurt Sunak by calling out the lie.
It's so funny to me how Keir Starmer is literally *just a guy* and he's going to win the biggest parliamentary majority since like the Victorian era, lmao.
I think it's a pity that charisma is a quality people think matters in a leader. I want a boring leader. I don't want anything g they do or say to be exciting. Politics isn't supposed to be exciting.
Tbf, charisma isn't everything. Boris Johnson invested all of his skill points into charisma and look how that turned out. A boring leader might actually be a good change.
I can only hope the way the election shakes out is that Labour forms a coalition with the SNP and Green party. It's a long shot, but it would possibly set the groundwork for some kind of forward progress.
The closest hope we have is the opposite outcome. No shot of a coalition if you've seen any polls and predictions. The Tories are so fucked at the moment that the more likely outcome is Lib Dems becoming opposition. With that being possible, I still support voting the Tories out even if the tactical vote is Labour, because the best shot we have at getting Labour to move left and/or allowing for proportional representation (which is necessary for us to get Greens and Lib Dems in that will actually do anything good), is a Lib Dem opposition where they complain about PR whenever they can at PMQs. Obviously that outcome doesn't guarantee PR at all but I doubt a smaller but still massive majority for Labour where the Tories are opposition is preferable. The slightly smaller majority won't give the Labour cabinet any less power and in fact I think a bigger majority makes factionalism more viable and allows any remaining left-wing MPs to fight Labour.
It is weird here, like things changed with Brexit, how have we become the terf country when we were the leading country on trans issues and have a long queer history, amd amazing queer history. It does sometimes feel like its not the same country anymore
it seems so strange to see Americans talk about British politics or Britain in general i always assumed they didn't understand our culture, lingo, and politics or were not interested, seeing an American accent reacting to the British Prime minister debate is so strange i don't know why it is 😂
I find it frustrating as a Brit watching this. American lefties trying to superimpose their outlook on to the UK as if it’s the same as the US is just stupid. Not saying you can’t have a broad outlook, but without the proper context you make yourself open to getting a load of stuff wrong. This video is case in point.
It’s kind of irritating watching Vaush analyse this as a Brit, because there is so much context he doesn’t understand. Entirely understandable, but still.
Vaush has grown so much since the huge debate bro days, I almost got a little disappointed when i saw debate in the thumbnail. I feel like the debates don't even do anything anymore lol
@@pllpsy665 I mean they did bring me over from being more right leaning, although I am still definitely glad he's turned down the edge a bit. Even if it is what got me to follow him in the first place.
Vaush really doesn't understand the UK, I wish he would better inform himself if he's going to give his opinion. There's a lot to criticise but the takes he has - like everyone outside of London living in poverty - just make him look ignorant.
@@PhoeniX199777 that's simply not true though is it? Ever been to Aberdeen? Harrogate? Edinburgh? Dorset, most of Cornwall, Brighton? Lots of parts of Cheshire etc etc. And I'm pretty sure you're lying about dialup, apart from the fact that the lines are being switched off and everyone's getting transferred to broadband most of the UK's internet is faster and cheaper than the US. I've got a 1gig connection for ~£40 a month and someone I know has the same for around £25ish
@@davidhughes4089 mate im joking, im getting a literal upgrade on monday to full fibre so ive got 1gb up and down, rn its like 1gb down but 100 up. I live in a relativley poor area too and life is still pretty decent here. Vaush really needs a reality check and perform some actual research on this country but he just wont unfortunately...
The energy bills thing is literally closing down restaurants in the UK. A family friend had to shut their chip shop down because they couldn't raise prices enough to cover the costs of running the appliances.
"I will cut your taxes and protect your pensions" Litterally mutually exclusive promises. How do you pay for services like pensions without taxes? Hmm?
Yeah, that's pretty weird. He's being tricked by the right wing European politician narrative that "immigrants don't assimilate" which is BS if you just look at any community in London. Rishi Sunak wouldn't be the archetypal upper class anti-immigrant, anti-working class Tory snob if his parents lived in one enclave only exposing him to Punjabi culture.
Vaush, mate. I would genuinely love to be your UK correspondent. Socialist Libertarian living in the UK. Would answer all your questions with fun memes.
Really is painful to hear Vaush talk about the uk on this video. We don't have the infrastructure for the numbers at the moment. Its crazy that Vaush said that there's a crisis at the southern border of America for logical reasons but not the UK.
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) and the council of Europe are separate from the EU - The UK still has representation there and it guarantees a huge number of UK workers (human) rights { Pensions, Holiday pay, Sick Pay, Working hour, Working environment...} - It is being targeted by the 1% to make slaves of us all - and the weapon used is the fear of asylum seekers. Hating the ECHR is hating Humanity. Funny story - the Council of Europe represents 46 countries and was signed into existence by the Treaty of London in 1949 - Heavily promoted by that hero of the right - Winston Churchill - It upholds Human Rights and the Rule of Law - two things the Right want to destroy.
Corbyn was an effective activist but is not close at all to being an effective politician. He may be better than Starmer but he would have been a disaster in his own right. He isn't like Bernie who actually is an effective socialist politician.
Corbyn can't be compared to Sanders. The UK labour party has sold out and become a right wing party that does not care about the working class. They are the Tories 2.0 and it's harming the UK because their tradition of strong working class rights and strong social benefits are being gutted decade by decade. The English NHS is falling in quality, Union strength has collapsed and wages have stagnated and now they parrot the same anti-immigrant scapegoating the right does. It's pathetic.
The principle is correct but the idea that the UK doesn't do it is wrong. The UK is one of the best at integration in Europe and is arguably better at it than US. Honestly I still don't know why he thinks immigrants here don't integrate: most people complaining about immigrants, like in US and Europe, are those who haven't met them. Whether they integrate or not doesn't stop bigots moaning. He keeps suggesting that Muslims in Britain are mostly Islamist, which is insane and sounds like something Tommy Robinson or Farage would say.
@@wumpyjumpsI think he's saying this based on his impression of London diasporas, who are pretty fucking nuts on average. Still, to say the UK is better at integrating immigrants than the US is laughable, though it is depressingly less so to say that they're probably better than most of Europe, especially France.
@@MrGksarathy I know what he said and I think he's wrong. Immigrant groups in London aren't generally radical, hence the city works well as a multicultural hub. Frankly I don't know where the impression comes from that it isn't, apart from far-right Twitter accounts.
I have family over there, but watching someone elected to high office getting a round of applause for telling them that he wants to pull away human rights... yeah lost country. I hope my relatives gets out of there before the witch burnings picks back up again.
reishi and keir are the epitome of why politics are failing, they both have no business in the positions they are in and it can only be explained that they most realiably do the bidding of the wealthiest propping them up.
@@rorysparshott4223starmer has been praised by the corporations he has worked with... Corbyn had a completely united media war against him. I wonder which one is more of a threat to the established wealthy?
@@mallardofmodernia8092 Certainly not Corbyn when he can hardly run a bath, let alone an election campaign. The established wealthy will be quite happy with that "opposition"
@@damedusa5107so true, I live outside of London and not in poverty and live in a comfortable first world country, tho it has stagnated under Tory rule, he thinks everywhere outside of London is African level poor where everyone lives in mud huts
I love how the solution to make things affordable is to "cut taxes" thus gutting all the social services people depend on....rather than making things like housing and shit affordable via better government policy. I want to get to the point where there is no more taxes to cut, like 0 taxes, and a band aid is $3000, a house is 4 trillion, pizza pops are $70 but hey...no taxes right. Now you will pay negative taxes.
I know it's only anecdotal but I gotta say, I experienced way more direct racism than I've ever had to before when I moved to the US. Tbf it was Florida but the relief I felt moving back to London was intense. It really is a melting pot, I love it.
Vaush is California brained and biased. I believe you. He says similar, objectively inaccurate things about canada. There's a reason our economies arent doing well, but people are generally more happier with life.
Grats, Vaush managed a whole one and a half minutes before talking about what they were wearing, good to see he's focusing on the more important issues. :p
Corbyn couldn't have done much and he sucked up to Putin. Let the neolibs bear the political brunt of these hardest of times. Then when Labor finally gets its act together, they'll stand a fighting chance.
I agree he is way to friendly with Russia and wanted to get rid of our nukes. Even after the Russia Ukraine war started Corbyn has been on Russia Today.
Part of the surge pricing comes from the use of intermittent renewables. It's part of the way they make intermittent renewables work with the lack of storage.
Why did Vish ulod a video if he doesn't want us to watch it? Is he stupid? Is he the Jonkler?
Vinch is Ritler's chief propagandist
"VoWosh" is definetly having their Joker moment rn
Oh lord I can never escape you people
The pin of SHAME
How would we know what not to watch if he didn't upload anything? You ignoramus.
"lower taxes" is literally the ONLY thing conservatives can think of as a solution to everything.
What other solution could anyone expect from a billionaire?
Lower taxes would be great if it was only lower taxes on the poor, but they wanna lower taxes on the rich :/
I'd always take higher wages of lower taxes, but that way you can't lower the taxes from the rich, so...
@@simonlawrenson6972 That's the rub. they can say "lower taxes" knowing full well that the rich hear it and understand that it means primarily for them, and the poor will hear it and think it's for them when it's not really, but the Tories won't have technically lied because they did lower taxes (for the rich, mostly).
And where as any other policy that would sound good to a poor person (build homes, increase pay, fund the NHS) would actually benefit poor people. "Lower taxes" is the one thing they can promise that sounds like a good a thing to the poor people, but unambiqiously benefits the rich.
australian conservatives are now saying lower taxes for low wage earners is 'welfare' but its ok for extremely rich people. it's basically 'rich people deserve tax cuts and the rest of you can fuck yourselves. Vote for us!' And then; lower wage earners vote for the right wingers because they say 'we have tortured refugees and you love that'
The UK likes to think of itself as an isolated island halfway between the US and Europe and now it has the economy of an isolated island stranded in the atlantic
The UK doesn't, Russia poured money into propaganda and duped people.
Both Europe and North America wants to see UK be an isolated island in the Pacific.
Except for the fact that the island you talk about is northwest europe and not in the middle between US and Europe 🤷🏻♂️
@j.p.gonzalez9218 "likes to think of itself as an island halfway..."
I guess Literacy rates must be dropping in the UK as well.
Yeah, that’s exactly what we think. You’re a genius.
As an American I’m confused. This is a debate right? Why aren’t they swearing eternal vengeance on each other’s bloodlines?
Keep in mind that both of these dipshits have been sitting across the room from each other in the House of Commons spitballing each other since Sunak came into office.
If there was any vengeance to be sworn, it’s been done already and they both just want this over with at this point.
It's British, you think they'd be down with that kind of clan killing shit.
Talking over the top of one another is the British equivalent
Dennis skinner retired
@@Mattchupichue We all miss the Beast!
So pathetic, cutting taxes, cutting taxes. Doesnt mean anything to poor or middle class. Its all for the rich.
They want to be America so bad
Actually taxes drive inflation, biggest spender in this country is the government
How the turn tables, King George III
@@jeffersonclippership2588not really.
uh no, raising taxes will actually hurt working middle class more as the ultra wealthy simply would move their finance elsewhere while continuing to operate in the uk.
Wild af Starmer says “taxes and government costs are at an all time high for people” and Sunak actually says “why are you talking about the past? I’m here for the future and we’re going to make things better” fucking insane haha
Unfortunately many people are too stupid to underestand why what Sunak said is terrible.
@@mileenaeupheme1975 given Labour is on course for a 500 seat win, they're starting to come round
"I lied five times, but this time it's for reals!"
Tories party pretending they haven't been in power for 14 years
>Infront of the judge for murder
Your honor you're living in the past, why are we talking about this
"Either keir starmer, or I, will be prime minsiter." Don't be so doom n gloom, there's always heart failure, a car crash, a nasty fall.
starmer looks he is due a stroke tbh
@@Letheansound Getting me excited.
I live in Scotland, I don't want either of them to do well. They're essentially both Tories.
He could actually lose his seat, there is an independent to the left of him running and no conservative on the ballot. The constituency was pretty solid labour before Starmer's left wing purge and there has been a turn in recent months towards independents, greens and the workers party. There has also been a steady growth of third parties, independents and local associations/parties on local councils for the last 4 or 5 years.
"On the bright side, there is also a chance of an asteroid impact!"
a short sighted hunter....
“Don’t watch this.” Never have I clicked on a video faster…
Vaush knew this was going to be a reverse psychology thing 🤣🤣
Them arguing most passionately about who is harshest on immigration really encapsulates the state of alot of european political discourse
They’re the examples I point to when trying to convince people that immigration is good actually.
The UK has a good argument to limit immigration. We don't have enough homes. We stopped building, and now we have a massive shortage.
@@mazking1366so build more houses
@@Phyt5 that's what we are doing now. We need time to build them. Vaush has even said there can be economic reasons to limit immigration and this is one of them.
If you listen to other Labour MPs on immigration, they actually make a good arguement for limiting immigration. Yes, immigration is a net good that enriches the UK, but neither side of the arguement seem to want to acknowledge that it's an incredibly complex and nuanced issue (particularly when it comes to things like housing and public services). The UK, for example, is currently massively reliant on migrant labour to fill in vacancies within our public services, instead of training people here in the UK. However, this also means we are taking skilled workers (such as doctors and nurses) from poorer countries that also need those workers. We're literally taking doctors and nurses from red list countries. Imo, that is unethical and we should be training people here to do those jobs.
"His collars are actively afraid of his lapels" That killed me!🤣🤣
Rishi's like a year 6 kid who's trying to become a prefect
"I really can't help but feel like you guys deserve all you're getting."
Vaush... I've been watching you for a while, that was probably the worst thing you've ever said. I voted against brexit, I voted againt leaving the EU, I voted for Scottish independence. Why do I deserve what's going on?
Where the title says don't watch this... maybe I really shouldn't have watched this, it's definitely ruining my day.
I always do my best to stand against ignorance and bigotry. But instead of encouragement to keep trying, I get told that I deserve what I'm getting.
@@LaylaSpellwindas someone who lives in the UK, I feel you.
Vaush like to shit on the UK but some of us are a little stuck here :(
@@LaylaSpellwind Vaush is simply incredibly ignorant when it comes to the UK and really anything outside his particular small area of knowledge. He is very dogmatic about many things and assigning blame to people that don't deserve it is common rhetoric for him.
When it comes to this stuff, he is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Vaush’s comments on the UK are ignorant and pointlessly insulting. The US voted in Trump for 4 years and is uncomfortably close to doing so again. Maybe put your own house in order first?
@@DonQuickZote Yeah, I doubt he'd have the same mind to say that everyone in America deserves 4 more years of Trump.
I'm taking a break from Vaush, I like him, but he does say some stupid stuff sometimes. This one really bothered me. It's going to be tough to let go of that.
As a British trans woman who peaced out of terf island nearly two decades ago I can confirm I will not be watching this
Wishing you the best life, queen. 👑✨✨✨
GG, you got more willpower than me there sister.
I too will be covering my ears, closing my eyes, and shouting "lalalalalala I cant hear you" during this video.
gods bless you sister
TERF island… Jesus is it really that bad compared to the US? Glad you’re free from there in any case
I will keep insisting that he needs to bring someone from the UK on with him. Vaush is missing out so much.
Right! Also missing context here is how the day after the debate Sunak was called out for lying during the debate and got loads of bad press. Ends up being a win for Starmer Even though he wasn't great on the night
If that's the real BowlerHatMan you should throw your bowler hat into the ring.
Its honestly extraordinary how little he knows, given that it's literally his job
He just stopped learning, but I'm not surprised, as it can be tough to stream a lot and keep yourself educated any more than superficially.
@@rorysparshott4223He has said often he doesn’t actually care about European issues. And when he does it’s only cause it directly concerns the US.
I need to stop watching these. Vaush really doesn't know much about the UK at all. Basically has enough knowledge to have a passing conversation with another American, but shows his ignorance massively to a British audience.
(aware the title told me not to watch, but the thumbnail made me curious)
Yeah the only time he'll say "I'm not familiar with this" or "I don't know" is when he thinks 99% of his audience is uninformed as he is. But when it's like 50% he'll try to BS his way through by confidently pretending he knows more than he actually does.
I always look at the comments first before i think about watching these videos, thanks for warning me not to waste my time
Completely true. Vaush talks constantly about voting for the lesser of two evils, but the second it's about the UK his brain turns to soup like 'durhgh Kid Starver both sides r baddd'.
Starmer and Sunak are nowhere even close to equally bad, and this is no time to pretend otherwise. One is a spineless lib, the other is a corporate vampire who wants to hunt the homeless for sport, if you can't conceive a harm-reduction argument on that basis then you really shouldn't be talking about politics.
@@PhoeniX199777 Basically if you see Vaush talking about politics in any country other than the US run in the other direction. His takes on Turkey are absolutely crap as well
Would you mind elaborating a bit on why? I'm not trying to criticize, I'm just genuinely curious because I'm just another American and take shit here at face value like Vaush is doing, however I do actually care to learn more and just don't know where to start.
you can't tell me what to do, editors
Ahhh, rishi Sunak, the most powerful rat in the UK.
Only for 4 more weeks.
But is he as powerful as Charles Entertainment Cheese?
@@basedeltazero714 That is King Charles entertainment cheese, show some respect mate 😤
@@cloudycolacorpCharles Entertainment Cheese III, the 1st brother perished in the war. Put some respect on his name
please don't insult rats like that, they're very cute and intelligent creatures
Starmer let Sunak repeat the lie about Labour's £2000 tax increase several times so he could well and truly implement himself. A classic case of not interrupting your enemy when he's making a mistake.
Except that voters will hear the 2k line over and over and not hear yhe refutation
@@DrippyWaffler nope, the 2k thing has been thoroughly rebutted by the media to the point that most people dont know anything about the debate other than than that sunak lied, alongside the D-Day fiasco the tory party is finished
@@DrippyWaffler You obviously didn't listen to the news the day after. It was on the radio constantly and online print media. Believe me, people know.
The word you're looking for is "implicate"
@@HappyGingerWolf Yes. The spell checker must've changed it.
Sunak will be cutting taxes all right, only not for that woman, for the oligarchs that own the country.
Debate bros in the community dying of dehydration and surviving off of debate review videos
please sir, may I have a crumb of content 🥶
@@LimeyLassen one day, my friend. One day 😔
The prayers have fallen upon deaf ears, may the debate-god grant us salvation
You know it's bad. I as an American who is truly expecting a shit show in my country in November is watching this and the only thing I can think of is holy shit This sounds like a political debate that you do in high school.
This debate was quite horrific but the format payed a large role in that. They didnt have more than 45 seconds
That title won't stop me because I can't read!
Me too!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
How do you know the title is trying to stop you if you can't read?
@@Beltorchika12They might be engaging in a spot of dishonesty
@@hayleyxyz lying on the internet? Who would so such a thing!
You're not my mom or my Domme, your warnings mean NOTHING!
stealing this
@jidk6565 you may have it 💜
Mommy or Mommy
Neither dommy nor mommy
@@Rose_HarmonicI chortled
Did someone not inform Sunak that the Trickle Down Economics hustle has been debunked?
So this guy repeats that the labor party would raise taxes. Guy from labor party points out that the PM raised taxes. PM guy response with "Of course you would bring up the past, this is about the future" LMAO What!?
"I'm going to cut taxes and protect your pensions!"
Sure, let's say I believe you, Sunak, but with what infrastructure? Without taxes, you aren't paying for any supposed protections.
It's like they never left the austerity strategy behind even after years of failure.
britain needs to gain independence from britain
I'm rooting for Welsh independence because their flag has a cool dragon on it
@@LimeyLassen I'm rooting for Wales to put the Dragon on the union jack
@@mileenaeupheme1975I’m rooting for the dragon
@@mileenaeupheme1975 You make a compelling argument
The future for the UK is grim, very grim! That's why i got out after the brexit vote, sad to say I have no love for my country any more and plan to never return.
So much doomer posting.
Where did you go
"Sir how are you going to ensure that I'm not so terribly in debt?"
"I'm going to lower taxes. Also the economy is doing great!"
Completely detached from the concerns of people. That's why rich people shouldn't even be allowed near the reigns of power.
First question: my bills are through the roof
Sunak: we'll cut your taxes!
That doesn't lower her food and utility bills you muppet
If you’re here it’s too late there’s no going back
“It’s not too late, it’s never too late”
-Nickleback probably
I'm gonna watch this harder
C u m
Sunak began answering the first question and thought "wow i should have listened to the title of this video"
I understand people hating the UK but if you lived here and saw just how many people are in poverty I think you'd be less likely to say we 'deserve' it. Yes, a lot of people don't want to use their brains/do some critical thinking and would rather be told the immigrants, trans people etc are to blame and vote against their own interests. But there's also a lot of decent people too. I get the meme of hating us but idk it does feel a bit grim. Call me a snowflake or whatever but I do find the extent of it bizarre. And I get the thing about we should protest more and we definitely should, but never underestimate the fatigue of being overworked and underpaid. People are so tired they don't want to think or go out and protest on their day off, that's part of the problem
Don’t watch the video btw. Vaush on the UK is really painful, taking joy in the downfall of my home is really painful. It’s definitely not very leftist of him.
Just abandon ship while you can.
@@JARV9701 "Just move bro"
Yeah if it was that simple this wouldn't be an issue, would it?
@@Pee-z9nit’s not as bad as he makes out m. He’s pretty clueless on most of his takes. He looked at one study a while back about income and thinks everyone is in abject poverty. He’s an idiot
@@JARV9701My whole life is here you can't sunken cost fallacy this kinda thing
@Zeberai US politics where a convicted felon is gonna win the election? Funnier imo
As a 55 year old Brit all I can say is that I am completely sickened and utterly depressed... and broke. And now my large university employer has said it wants to get rid of 400 of it's 2000 non-academic staff, because the poor economy, social instability, and hostile environment, means the intake of domestic and foreign students has plummeted.
Sunak's faux empathy needs a lot of work lol
I lost it at "reduce immigration." OK, Uncle Sunak, no relations. 🤡🤡🤡
You remember the "meme" of Dad's saying "Don't Touch the Thermostat"?
"The car AC stays off if you don't chip in with gas?"
"Are we feeding the whole damn neighbourhood?"
For most people, money was tight, money is tighter even now and despite the "economy" growing and big corporations making it record profits, it is pooling at the top.
So-called free thinkers when Vowsh says to not watch a video:
There’s a reason no one pays me to think
I can listen without watching
Checkmate tankies
What? Doing what others tell you not to is literally being free.
He became PM because it wasn't decided by the electorate
PM is never directly decided by the electorate. The role is representative of the votes of MPs, who you DO vote for.
@@kingflynxi9420 In a general election you vote for an MP true, but, people vote for the broader vision of the party, which is set out by the leader, and supposedly delivered by their MP.
I don't think anyone can honestly say what we have now under Sunak and the disaster under Truss was, in any way, chosen by the electorate.
@@jrd1811 And none of his bs was part of the 2019 manifesto.
@jrd1811 💯 Also none of his bs was part of the 2019 manifesto
And he won the party election because literally no one else stood for the race
35:08 No, the ECHR isn't being enforced by the European Commission, the European Commission is the executive power of the European Union, which the UK left in 2020.
The ECHR is from the Council of Europe, a different group that enforces human rights and also contains countries like Turkey, Serbia and Ukraine. The UK pulling out the ECHR and thereby probably the CoE would put them at the same level of Russia and Belarus.
Even worse that the £2000 figure that Sunak threw at Starmer has been found out to be a completely fictionalised figure made up to try to hurt his image, which is now being used to hurt Sunak by calling out the lie.
Electricity comparison ($):
UK - $278.99 per year standing charge regardless of use PLUS 31.8 cents per kwh
US - 16.68 cents per kwh
Horrible. I'm paying 15 cents € so about 17 cents US in Finland. And Finland is cold, networks are sparce and energy expenditure high. Tf UK?
@@elmosaarelainen9671 I should note this has come down. In early 2023 we were paying 80 cents per kwh.
@@nenasadie Thank God the Tories got rid of those communist EU price controls
Privatised infrastructure. Blame Thatcher the snatcher in the 80s when she sold it all off!
that sign can't stop me because I can't read!
Bro, the UK having price surging for appliances is INSANE. How is that legal over there?!?!
You'd think after The Absolute Dumpster Fire that was Brexit, The UK would be tired of Tory rule by now?
British are incapable of learning from their mistakes.
It is, look at the polls. The only people who'll vote Tory are lifelong middle class aspirationists, the ruling class and idiots.
They are. Labour is killing the Tories in the polls
Well based on the polls and the entire political atmosphere, yeah.
Theyre going to get destroyed. Labour will have the highest majority in modern history.
It's so funny to me how Keir Starmer is literally *just a guy* and he's going to win the biggest parliamentary majority since like the Victorian era, lmao.
Starmer is also acutely uncharismatic, so it's an equal legendary battle.
It's actually wild, my man rolled up a 3 for charisma but still somehow got to be leader of an anything
Labour is in its 2000s Democrat phase. They'll get an Obamna eventually but right now they're suck on John Kerry.
I think it's a pity that charisma is a quality people think matters in a leader.
I want a boring leader. I don't want anything g they do or say to be exciting. Politics isn't supposed to be exciting.
Tbf, charisma isn't everything. Boris Johnson invested all of his skill points into charisma and look how that turned out. A boring leader might actually be a good change.
@@jeffersonclippership2588You obviously know nothing of the UK then. Blair was our Obama
I can only hope the way the election shakes out is that Labour forms a coalition with the SNP and Green party. It's a long shot, but it would possibly set the groundwork for some kind of forward progress.
Highly highly unlikely with SNP losing ground in Scotland. Labour's on track for a massive 1997 Blair style majority.
No need for alliances
@@nemotoad9315
Damn. That's what I get for thinking there's hope in the UK.
The closest hope we have is the opposite outcome. No shot of a coalition if you've seen any polls and predictions. The Tories are so fucked at the moment that the more likely outcome is Lib Dems becoming opposition. With that being possible, I still support voting the Tories out even if the tactical vote is Labour, because the best shot we have at getting Labour to move left and/or allowing for proportional representation (which is necessary for us to get Greens and Lib Dems in that will actually do anything good), is a Lib Dem opposition where they complain about PR whenever they can at PMQs.
Obviously that outcome doesn't guarantee PR at all but I doubt a smaller but still massive majority for Labour where the Tories are opposition is preferable. The slightly smaller majority won't give the Labour cabinet any less power and in fact I think a bigger majority makes factionalism more viable and allows any remaining left-wing MPs to fight Labour.
The SNP are falling in the polls and the Greens are basically irrelevant.
No idea why people keep talking about a Labour/SNP coalition. They hate each other, it's never going to happen.
The way they both simply refuse to address anything that first poor woman said in any meaningful is so truly ghoulish.
Rishi Sunak can never say I Love our Veterans with a straight face ever again.
It is weird here, like things changed with Brexit, how have we become the terf country when we were the leading country on trans issues and have a long queer history, amd amazing queer history.
It does sometimes feel like its not the same country anymore
Destroying the labour party has aged Kier
it seems so strange to see Americans talk about British politics or Britain in general i always assumed they didn't understand our culture, lingo, and politics or were not interested, seeing an American accent reacting to the British Prime minister debate is so strange i don't know why it is 😂
Vaush definitely doesn't understand UK culture, politics, the current state of the country outside of london, etc.
@@mileenaeupheme1975 i always see people saying this, but they NEVER elaborate, which leads me to think they don't actually have any point lol
I find it frustrating as a Brit watching this.
American lefties trying to superimpose their outlook on to the UK as if it’s the same as the US is just stupid.
Not saying you can’t have a broad outlook, but without the proper context you make yourself open to getting a load of stuff wrong.
This video is case in point.
It’s kind of irritating watching Vaush analyse this as a Brit, because there is so much context he doesn’t understand. Entirely understandable, but still.
I am not watching this (watches this) NOOO dammit
Vaush has grown so much since the huge debate bro days, I almost got a little disappointed when i saw debate in the thumbnail. I feel like the debates don't even do anything anymore lol
Its because all the people who would be worth debating are too big to care debating a niche internet micro-celebrity
Debates have never done anything other than create dumb propaganda material.
@@pllpsy665 I mean they did bring me over from being more right leaning, although I am still definitely glad he's turned down the edge a bit. Even if it is what got me to follow him in the first place.
Vaush titles a debate "don't watch this" as if any debates are worth watching.
You can't stop me!
Instantly clicked the banner notification to watch this. Has Voosh cultivated a community of contrarians(???)
Nooooooo!
No, he didn't!
Vaush really doesn't understand the UK, I wish he would better inform himself if he's going to give his opinion. There's a lot to criticise but the takes he has - like everyone outside of London living in poverty - just make him look ignorant.
He has had these views for several years. He is just dogmatic and refuses to educate himself.
Im in the north of england and i live in a shoe box and use dial up internet, its true that everywhere outside london is poor
@@PhoeniX199777 that's simply not true though is it? Ever been to Aberdeen? Harrogate? Edinburgh? Dorset, most of Cornwall, Brighton? Lots of parts of Cheshire etc etc.
And I'm pretty sure you're lying about dialup, apart from the fact that the lines are being switched off and everyone's getting transferred to broadband most of the UK's internet is faster and cheaper than the US. I've got a 1gig connection for ~£40 a month and someone I know has the same for around £25ish
@@davidhughes4089 mate im joking, im getting a literal upgrade on monday to full fibre so ive got 1gb up and down, rn its like 1gb down but 100 up. I live in a relativley poor area too and life is still pretty decent here. Vaush really needs a reality check and perform some actual research on this country but he just wont unfortunately...
@@PhoeniX199777 sorry, the living in the north and the shoebox struck a chord 😂
The energy bills thing is literally closing down restaurants in the UK. A family friend had to shut their chip shop down because they couldn't raise prices enough to cover the costs of running the appliances.
Nobody:
Rishi Sunak: "Bold action"
Don’t tell me what to do editors
"I will cut your taxes and protect your pensions"
Litterally mutually exclusive promises. How do you pay for services like pensions without taxes? Hmm?
I'm from London and I can say that people here definitely do consider the UK, or at least London, to be a "melting pot".
Yeah, that's pretty weird. He's being tricked by the right wing European politician narrative that "immigrants don't assimilate" which is BS if you just look at any community in London.
Rishi Sunak wouldn't be the archetypal upper class anti-immigrant, anti-working class Tory snob if his parents lived in one enclave only exposing him to Punjabi culture.
WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
*rolls down window*. WE DIDNT LISTEN!!
This moderator is infinitely better than most of our debate moderators.
Vaush, mate. I would genuinely love to be your UK correspondent. Socialist Libertarian living in the UK. Would answer all your questions with fun memes.
Really is painful to hear Vaush talk about the uk on this video. We don't have the infrastructure for the numbers at the moment. Its crazy that Vaush said that there's a crisis at the southern border of America for logical reasons but not the UK.
the uk could definitely have more immigrants. and they would work to be able to if they actually cared about the economy/the working class
You can’t tell me what to do
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) and the council of Europe are separate from the EU - The UK still has representation there and it guarantees a huge number of UK workers (human) rights { Pensions, Holiday pay, Sick Pay, Working hour, Working environment...} - It is being targeted by the 1% to make slaves of us all - and the weapon used is the fear of asylum seekers. Hating the ECHR is hating Humanity.
Funny story - the Council of Europe represents 46 countries and was signed into existence by the Treaty of London in 1949 - Heavily promoted by that hero of the right - Winston Churchill - It upholds Human Rights and the Rule of Law - two things the Right want to destroy.
Corbyn was an effective activist but is not close at all to being an effective politician. He may be better than Starmer but he would have been a disaster in his own right. He isn't like Bernie who actually is an effective socialist politician.
Corbyn can't be compared to Sanders. The UK labour party has sold out and become a right wing party that does not care about the working class.
They are the Tories 2.0 and it's harming the UK because their tradition of strong working class rights and strong social benefits are being gutted decade by decade. The English NHS is falling in quality, Union strength has collapsed and wages have stagnated and now they parrot the same anti-immigrant scapegoating the right does. It's pathetic.
That first picture made me think it was another fashion segment.
It was, seems like they all are.
@@gavinbuck8130 Sad but true.
Vaush’s takes on immigration are entirely accurate. Couldn’t agree more with everything said.
The principle is correct but the idea that the UK doesn't do it is wrong. The UK is one of the best at integration in Europe and is arguably better at it than US.
Honestly I still don't know why he thinks immigrants here don't integrate: most people complaining about immigrants, like in US and Europe, are those who haven't met them. Whether they integrate or not doesn't stop bigots moaning. He keeps suggesting that Muslims in Britain are mostly Islamist, which is insane and sounds like something Tommy Robinson or Farage would say.
@@wumpyjumpsI think he's saying this based on his impression of London diasporas, who are pretty fucking nuts on average.
Still, to say the UK is better at integrating immigrants than the US is laughable, though it is depressingly less so to say that they're probably better than most of Europe, especially France.
@@MrGksarathy I know what he said and I think he's wrong. Immigrant groups in London aren't generally radical, hence the city works well as a multicultural hub. Frankly I don't know where the impression comes from that it isn't, apart from far-right Twitter accounts.
I have family over there, but watching someone elected to high office getting a round of applause for telling them that he wants to pull away human rights... yeah lost country. I hope my relatives gets out of there before the witch burnings picks back up again.
Start vaush video
Vaush criticizes appearance of both people within 90 seconds
Close vaush video
reishi and keir are the epitome of why politics are failing, they both have no business in the positions they are in and it can only be explained that they most realiably do the bidding of the wealthiest propping them up.
Sorry, that's simply not true about Starmer. I get it you don't like that he's not St Jeremy but instead he's actually competent
@@rorysparshott4223starmer has been praised by the corporations he has worked with...
Corbyn had a completely united media war against him. I wonder which one is more of a threat to the established wealthy?
@@mallardofmodernia8092 Certainly not Corbyn when he can hardly run a bath, let alone an election campaign. The established wealthy will be quite happy with that "opposition"
@@rorysparshott4223 diet tory Starmer? I sleep
@@kurisi5563 ah, the Tory attack line that any competent labour leader is just "Tory lite"
🎶🎵My milkshake lands on-to Nigel Farage 🎵🎶
Sold! Watching it!
Don't tell me what to do
as a non uk citizen living there... i'm seriously questioning my sanity for willingly living here
When did Vaush turn into less knowledgable and charismatic Derek Guy?
He’s clueless with his takes on uk. Doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He seems to think everyone outside London is in abject poverty.
@@damedusa5107so true, I live outside of London and not in poverty and live in a comfortable first world country, tho it has stagnated under Tory rule, he thinks everywhere outside of London is African level poor where everyone lives in mud huts
@@Phyt5 he’s so anti uk that it’s like he can’t look at anything objectively.
Every time he talks about something outside of the US.
I love how the solution to make things affordable is to "cut taxes" thus gutting all the social services people depend on....rather than making things like housing and shit affordable via better government policy. I want to get to the point where there is no more taxes to cut, like 0 taxes, and a band aid is $3000, a house is 4 trillion, pizza pops are $70 but hey...no taxes right. Now you will pay negative taxes.
Just a bunch of assumptions about a country youve never visited.
I know it's only anecdotal but I gotta say, I experienced way more direct racism than I've ever had to before when I moved to the US. Tbf it was Florida but the relief I felt moving back to London was intense. It really is a melting pot, I love it.
Vaush is California brained and biased. I believe you. He says similar, objectively inaccurate things about canada. There's a reason our economies arent doing well, but people are generally more happier with life.
I love watching a bunch of aristocrats bore the shit out of everyone on stage!
To which hereditary titles are Sunak and Starmer the scions of?
Grats, Vaush managed a whole one and a half minutes before talking about what they were wearing, good to see he's focusing on the more important issues. :p
gotta love the guy who is clearly from inmigrant descent claiming that he will reduce inmigration
We Indians are always keen to kick the ladder behind us, whether it be in the US or UK.
@@MrGksarathy Ironically, it's the same with us Brits, whenever we migrate to other countries in the Anglosphere.
“don’t watch this”
33,000 people: 🗿🍷
Reminder that Vaush said it was a good thing Corbyn lost.
That's an L
Corbyn couldn't have done much and he sucked up to Putin. Let the neolibs bear the political brunt of these hardest of times. Then when Labor finally gets its act together, they'll stand a fighting chance.
I agree he is way to friendly with Russia and wanted to get rid of our nukes. Even after the Russia Ukraine war started Corbyn has been on Russia Today.
How dare you tell me not to watch this 😤😤 now I'm going to watch the whole thing and like just for that
Every time you talk about the uk, I wonder why I value your opinion, lol.
Now I'm going to watch it even louder
dont watch this (Impossible challenge)
Part of the surge pricing comes from the use of intermittent renewables. It's part of the way they make intermittent renewables work with the lack of storage.
This is the most "out of my ass" economics analysis of all time.