What’s so odd is that this is the same problem affecting Canada and the UK as well. It’s almost as if the governments are using the exact same playbook against the will of the people. What are the odds that both countries governments decide to do the exact same thing with the exact same bad results?
i was raised to be pro immigration and value multiculturalism, but as i see more and more tents in parks and people living in their cars, i feel more conservative and find myself wanting the borders to close. i don’t know a whole lot about politics; im simply trying to get by. but when you get evicted from your home to build units, and every single open house inspection has a queue of 30 people.. and you seem to be the only australians there.. its hard to maintain the values i was taught as a child. i often find myself thinking about death, not in a suicidal way, but in a way that it will be the end of the financial pressure to try and stay afloat, which is all i’ve ever known. i know that sounds dark, but when three paychecks barely cover rent, food, petrol, bills.. it’s hard not to long for all of this to end
I'm the same. I am a son of an immigrant, born here. I find myself hating the flood of migration because it pushes rents higher and higher and supresses wages. The politicians think it's great for the economy and their property portfolios, but it's crowding our country and infrastructure and causing massive poverty nationwide.
that’s what they banking on. you not understanding politics. so they blame the problems on immigration and not the unregulated capitalism that caused it. immigration only helps build nations. but humans have an innate “us vs them” mentality, that politicians and their corporate overlords use to keep you distracted. take the housing issue… politicians get money from property developers, they create laws to assist property developers, they deregulate property developers industry, they stop building public housing. we have a housing crisis, but property developers are wealthier than ever. want to fix the problem, vote for a party that’ll build public and community housing. that’s how every nation has fixed their housing crisis, including australia in the 70’s.
You guys have no idea of the scale of Australia's immigration rate. Britain is rioting over their immigration because they're taking in in 650k net migrants per year and they have a population of 60 million. We have a population of 23 million and we're taking in 620k net a year! Our immigration rate as a % of our population makes Canada look like Hungary. Our universities average 40+% international students with Sydney uni cracking over 50%. The highest in the USA only has 28% with the USA top 10 unis average being 23%. 1 in 10 people in Australia is on some type of student or graduate visa. The numbers are beyond anything in the OECD or the world. So when people say, our immigration isn't to high, I ask, give me an example of a country where immigration has been this high long term and has been success? It doesn't exist.
To be fair, the UK has much stricter land development policies and so everyone is crowded into much smaller homes, so it makes sense immigration would do more damage there
@@pauldiezel4584wether you are a coloniser from 250 years ago or a coloniser from today, over migration is screwing everyone over, even the migrants just getting here.
@@Bevtone well by your definition the Maoris are not the indigenous people of New Zealand as they've inhabited it for less time than the current English genetic stock have inhabited England, and according to the Maoris themselves, wiped out and even ate the previous indigenous peoples. Every place had some one else before. The point is the English all now identify as a people with a common language, culture, set of political and religious institutions.
The government is allowing huge migration so that GDP will grow 0.1 or 0.2% so they technically avoid a recession. Doesn't matter that per-capita GDP has been going backwards for some time now. That isn't politically damaging.
The economic factors are just a smokescreen for their real intentions. None of the people in power will be effected by by a recession or even depression. If anything, that'll make them wealthier. The true purpose of mass migration is to wipe out the indigenous peoples of Europe and their diaspora. That's why you don't see leaders in non-Western countries (except now for Japan, but that's because they're being economically ransomed by the UN) push for mass migration.
Even Philip Lowe when he was the chair of the RBA said that 'temporary migration has caused weak wage growth as employers have been using overseas hires to fill gaps that would have been filled by locals, diluting upward pressure on wages in these hotspots'. Big business loves high immigration, they own the media, and fund the research, hence the negative perception around people who are supposedly 'anti-immigration'.
Essential services are on fire at the moment. House prices are so unaffordable it's disgraceful. Infrastructure is bursting at the seams with all the people. The government has it's head in the sand like nothing is wrong. What a disgusting situation Australians are forced to face due to unchecked artificial population growth without the spending to support the growth.
It's not a long term strategy. You can't just import new people to keep the economy growing without children being born at home because birthrates are dropping worldwide. At some point in the future we are going to have to either A) discover policy that successfully promotes sustainable family formation or B) design our economies around stagnation/decline. Bringing more people into the country is only kicking the can down the road, and seems to encourage social disorder of all kinds.
I think the problem is hiring skilled migrant workers from overseas than giving the same opportunities to graduate/students that are already here in bunches ! My two cents, feel free to throw it into the fountain. Cheers
Why is the government so obsessed with avoiding a recession? I’m not an economist but what’s the issue with having another ‘recession we needed to have’?
Incentive structure is popularity contest, not far-seeing administration. Ticking the box of "not in Recession" ensures you don't definitely lose the popularity contest.
Talk to anyone from the US, Ireland, Spain, etc. People that have actually experienced an economic recession. Please understand that during the GFC, only 2 countries had positive GDP growth. Australia and Poland. It took almost 30 years for a recession (covid) to affect Australia. Currently, immigration has prevented another technical recession. So what does an recession actually feel like? Remember when unemployment shot up to 11% in 2020? That happens. Except instead of hospo and retail staff, it's now white and blue collar staff. Hundreds of thousands of people are forced to sell their properties as they've lost their jobs and can't service a mortgage. Demand for Centrelink explodes with long lines everyday. Homelessness rises. Crime rises. Protests erupt. Government administrations change. If that sounds familiar, it's because we're living in a high inflationary environment right now - GDP per capita recession as some call it. So all those things but not as bad happens. Australia is lucky to have natural resources and tertiary education but the long term economic outlook is grim as we can't rely on China anymore. We must diversify and boost our own productivity. Instead of being lazy and relying on population growth to increase the participation rate. Economically, the outlook for Australia is just as bad as the UK.
It has nothing to do with votes, the overwhelming majority of our politicians are boomers, they're stealing from Australia's future to fund their lavish retirement.
The problem with inflation when the vacancy rate is below 1% is that housing becomes a game of musical chairs and those left with nowhere to live when the music stops are Australia's most vulnerable. Meanwhile Albo is offering a 10% discount on rent which will obviously just result in a 10% increase in rent, basically doing FA except handing tax dollars (OUR money) to the landlords profiteering off suffering. That's not incompetent, that's diabolical, and that he thinks this will get him votes shows his utter contempt for the average Australian.
This is what comedy is best for; delivering salient talking points on hotbed topics, but couched in humour to bypass the knee-jerk response of those who tend to be accusatory or reactionary. As the saying goes, the role of the court jester is to speak truth when no one else will. Well done, mate.
Rent did decline, especially in inner cities. However, people did seek out more space, moving out of sharehouses and into their own dwellings so it didn't drop as much as it would normally
Because they debased the currency through mass printing of money - house didnt go up in value, the currency was worth less (along with your savings and your wage)
This is becoming a cliche pro-migration crutch to lean on, the interest rates were near zero when Covid properties soared. Convenient to skip over that part.
Problem is Australia has no industry really except housing and foreign students.. And the only jobs that are worth it are in real estate or government ... Hence the night migration of cashed up Indians and Chinese...
We shouldnt bring in people who made money and gotten rich off their own tyrannical governments before coming to Australia We're bringing in the worst type of people from countries run by authoritarian governments.
As an immigrant in Aus I have one message for Labor. Please stop! Dial it down mates! The country's housing is in crisis mode and only property investors benefit.. Oh that explains it
The biggest problem with Migration are the student visas. Universities and governments like those tuition dollars and cheap labour student labour brings but it causes the most problems. Bring skilled professionals from overseas instead.
We shouldnt bring in people who made money and gotten rich off their own tyrannical governments before coming to Australia We're bringing in the worst type of people from countries run by authoritarian governments.
All the evidence out there shows that homogeneous nations made up of ethno-religious groups who are 'close enough' to function as a de-facto extended family, work much better than multi-cultural and/or multi-ethnic ethnic ones. Though god help anyone wishing to have a rational and logical conversation about this, due to all the obvious vested interests labelling any such conversation the r word. It doesnt mean a country needs to become a hermit kingdom though, the maintenance of a 'super-majority' of one core ethno-religious group is enough to create enough assimilation/integration pressure. To be autistic about it, in practice this means 90-95% main group and a max 0.1% immigration py (x50-80 over a lifetime giving 5-10% immigration percentage) number. This must be done however with all possible political, economic and cultural policies being enacted to support a positive fertility rate in the main group - but thats another conversation we're not allowed to have and that one is even more of a doozy 😂
Honest? Righto: I moved out of Sydney after my community became non Australian. The community spirit that we were all fond of eroded away over a 10 year period until 2009. I return to all parts of Sydney twice a year to a place I geographically recognize but that's where it stops. Though I try, I can't make good on a conversation with the new locals. We definitely don't care about each other as Australians, that's obvious, maybe they could've stopped in any other country and not cared either? We arrived as wine producers in 1861 and were told to grow citrus. We succeeded and the pun fruits of our success is now given on to our great great great grandchildren. It's abhorrent that a new arrival can get on socialgram and declare themselves Aussie without any heritage. In short, you can't import these peoples and expect our good natured Aussie way to continue to exist. 1.2 million people just arrived, who are they? Did they ask the First Natives/Second Natives if they could come here? It seems to be all by design, maybe they don't want me/us around.
lol I'm Australian born kiwi a product of the Anzac accord both my parents are kiwi lineage wise the family was on the second pilgrimage boat to New Zealand, I meet a lot of Indians, Africans others ethnicity that don't sound kiwi but love telling me there kiwi since they have a passport and moved over here once they got it, am I meant to be happy that you piss on my grate uncles graves and use my island as a skipping stone ? like I have two set of cousin we don't have in the family due to the war but yeah okay...
What do you think the policy should be for new migrants? How do you maintain an in flow of new arrivals while maintaining shared identity and community spirit? Or do you think stop migration entirely? I think if the rate is lower, natural assimilation would occur over a couple of years or one generation.
Your statement at the end is very hypocritical. We all know the history of this country. British people colonised it. Then the dark years of the Indigenous followed. If you're Anglo, did your ancestors ask the Indigenous for permission to mine the land? Clear the forests for cities? Dam rivers? Settle and bring in more immigrants? It's incredibly hypocritical for you to say that given the history of Australia. You're only upset now because now you feel out of place. If that's your biggest problem in life, your community, then you're much more privileged than you realise, mate. Because I guarantee I can find coloured people that will be as whitewashed as you'd like yet you wouldn't know unless you went to school with them, played a sport with them or worked with them. Otherwise, you just wouldn't know. What you're complaining about are complete foreigners. Yet if you go to Alice Springs or Darwin or anywhere with a higher Aboriginal presence, you're the foreigner, buddy. But apparently that's tolerated. Just not others.
Well, we have suffered what Britain has, 10+ years of the same shit. I am glad though both parties are actually willing to do something, or at least claim they can. But there must be some consequences for failure.
As soon as a women or children is crying on camera on the news . Because they have a cancelled visa they will dial it back .. I hope not but I heard Jordon Peterson mention it when asked on mass deportations .
We’ve set up a situation where being proud of your country and culture or just questioning immigration, you get called racist. Where as the culture we are taking in has immunity to practice there bigotry.
The biggest problem I see is that we're taking in the middle to upper class from nations with serious overpopulation and standard of living. Once they get PR they most likely don't work in their skills that they came here to do. Many just want an escape by any means possible. It means an extra person or more to the population and the skilled role they came here for will be vacant again once the PR papers are signed and sealed
the worst part is home building has actually declined. people have no idea whats coming. anyone below middle class is going to wind up in a tent in someones backyard for 400 a week. this is not an exaggeration
It's never been about race like we so often hear. It's culture. Cultures that are happy to put 10 people in a bedroom house puts Australians on the street. Same goes for Islam, I don't have an issue with non religious Arabs. Australians aren't having kids because most can't afford it. The median income is 50k.
No it wouldn't. There is very little to non existent infrastructure in the country outside of the big cities. Towns everywhere are already struggling and can't handle the migrants forced upon them already
I was smoking a ciggy, outside a reggae bar, in my youth, and got told by a drunk Aboriginal lady to go back to where I came from , cos I wouldn't let her grab another smoke. Me being African, I was damn confused. I thought we had each others back😂?! So I started freestyling a diss track 🤣
Black Africans are genetically more closely related to white Europeans than Australian Aboriginals. You literally only looked skin deep and thought "they're black, must be like me". Nah dude, different kind of human.
@@cheeks7050 well aware, but it wasn't that deep..just a tale about a couple of drunk people who've usually found common ground. Besides, who's ever asked to see your DNA results before racially vilifying you?? 🤷🏾♂️
Alright, that last bit is 100% true. I went into the Crown Casino and I saw loads of old asian men, one of whom was dumping THOUSANDS of dollars of chips on the table and they had clearly been there for a long time.
The discussion always ends up as an all or nothing mentality. Immigration is good, I’m a second gen Italian. But just not in these numbers. It needs to be way lower. It’s definitely straining housing and just about everything.
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Australia requires immigration but immigration is being used solely to further enrich the wealthy instead for the benefit of Australia society. With the help of consecutive governments with neoliberal agendas, businesses in Australia have used immigration to not invest in the local labour market by no longer putting money into making sure Australians are skilled, all to keep wages and salaries. The end result is a shortage of skilled labour by design and those who have the brains and the potential, leave Australia where their skills are recognised and rewarded accordingly. Australia needs to return to training its people. Concentrate on skilling up our essential professions. Medical especially. There is no money saved by favouring sponsored nurses from overseas when they're required to complete a nursing degree in Australia no matter how much experience they already have. The costs of this full training would be best invested in those already living in Australia, no matter if they're citizens or permanent citizens. I disagree that the left is anti-religion. They want religion to stop pushing themselves onto everyone else. Keep it in the home, so to speak. In the end, the left and the right are both sides of the same coin. The Left element I am skeptical of are the fabians who say they support raising people out of poverty but only if they don't have to sacrifice any of their hoarded wealth. No society can have every issue solves by a single ideology, so we need to look at which is best from which and even come up with new ideas. Housing policy does need a hard Left turn though. Singapore's housing policy is one that should be considered but adapted to our needs. Stuff the banks and landlords. Nobody needs a road train of housing such as Ben Fordham who once admitted to own over 200 homes. As for infrastructure. Australia does not know how to plan ahead. As a country, we build everything 20 years too late. This needs fixed but Australians will need to drop its NIMBY culture and chill on the tall poppy syndrome which went from preventing people from getting too cocky, to people exacting revenge based on feelings of jealousy and bigotry.
No where 'Requires' migration, you're just trying to justify the status quo. What a cop out.
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@@cheeks7050 No, it's not as simple as you see it. Immigration enriches a nation but I view the current system as incorrectly used solely for the benefit of financial rewards for the capitalist. If you are wanting a mono-cultural society, it's too late for that. I personally prefer a healthy mix. Immigration needs to be done in a way that holistically benefits Australia, not just the money bags who bought out the political system.
The government is working really hard to make housing and renting more affordable by importing large numbers of immigrants, not releasing new land and not building public housing. It's bit like saying I'm putting out this fire with some petrol. Problem is you can't actually vote your way out of the problem anymore
The big problem is that the people who oversee immigration have been gobbled up by the national security blowhards to form Dutton's desired ego trip Department of Home Affairs. Because it fights for resources with border control, the AFP and until recently ASIO, the people who provide advice to manage migration and ensure that people aren't overstaying or playing with the visa system have been playing second fiddle. Why the current government hasn't set up Immigration as its own stand alone Department is still a mystery to me.
Nothing against immigration however it probably needs to be capped at around 75'000 people which is probably more sustainable than 600'000. Australia is only building 160'000 new homes per year which doesn't meet immigration needs or the local population.
My stance on immigration and cultural ownership of a country more broadly is that the culture that conquers a land owns it. Like it or not, this land was conquered by europeans so thats the culture and identity that should be preserved. Not indian culture, not muslim culture, not asian culture, and not even aboriginal culture. This shouldnt be a contraversial stance, because its the way every other country and culture operates.
Love this style of content... you summed it up well - immigration fattens the working class which benefits the business owners and exacerbates wealth inequality.
This is just the beginning, they won't stop until they've replaced the local population, and this is coming from a 2nd gen immigrant. I don't agree with it, but it's easier to import these people than it is to actually address the problems facilitating their necessity in the first place.
So tell me. What happens when you're 'replaced'? Sharia law and every woman covers up? If that's your answer, you're drinking too much far right koolaid buddy
The whole thing is based on short sighted lazy politics of infinite growth. Both sides in every western democracy see the developing world as a tap of cheap labour to turn on in order to make sure gdp keeps going up, even though per capita its been declining since 2000. If they were honest about it, it would take some of the sting out. Instead they mythologise multiculturalism as a virtue and insist that by simply arriving and getting a piece of paper you're as Australian/British/American as anyone who was born and raised there. But of course you don't have to act like it, you can bring your own native language and culture with you, chipping away at the foundational culture that built the civilisation. If our political leaders tell us "we simply won't last without immigration" then I say we need better politicians. Either that or we deserve to not last, but we can still fade away on our terms. Not get turned into a third world ghetto of rolling street battles between competing enclaves which is what we're gonna get.
70k to 100k per year seemed like a good speed. We need to be able work together to integrate reasonably. If we just make pockets of nationalities who don't speak to each other we are just asking for trouble.
Its not the race that migrates that people have an issue with, its the culture that migrates. A lot of these cultures don't want to blend in, see themselves as seperate and would rather "take over" per se.
And what does your Australian culture actually consist of so that we can actually blend in? Stay at home every evening since there is literally no place to go out at night I assumed
i have no issue with a multicultural society, in fact i welcome it (i believe the world will become multicultural), but i think there are things that are "australian" which i dont want to change, the way people drive on the road is one thing (road etiquette). I'm not making a big deal out of it, it's just an example of things that are changing which i wish wouldnt.
No mate. I voted No because it was racist af. But what you just said is redneck as hell. Australia is for everyone.. with the caveat they should absolutely assimilate into our culture and respect it. “Australia is for white people” is incredibly stupid
I agree that the topic of immigration should be talked about in a serious way and not from the perspective of racism. But I rather that the people talking about it are actual experts and professors in the field and not someone like Volderdutton or your local punter. As a first gen, I appreciate and have gotten along well with people of a lot of backgrounds, including locals. Every single community have been nice and represent beautiful values each Australian should have. But I've seen the worst double standards amongst the historic locals. Some claim that me and my community should 'f**k off back to where I came from' (even though I was born here) because I don't represent Australian values. The same people who terrorise children in parks saying, 'you have no right to play here because you don't pay taxes and I do', or steal from your front (and back) yard anything there is to steal, just to sell it on gumtree. Are these the Australian values that are taught?? If these are Australian values, then I surely do not represent them. I represent something better (e.g kindness to your fellow neighbour and respect to each other).
Not to sound conspiratorial, but the Experts are all bought and paid for. Fear of cancellation and economic incentive to tow the line for big business means Experts are frankly useless. Also, do you know what an expert will say? They'll say that the erosion of aussie mateship is fine and dandy because their excel spreadsheet economy is happy and green. The Experts are totally out of touch with the people.
You think that's bad, imagine your homeland being taken over by ingrates who call you racist then post obnoxious youtube comments about how racist your families that fought and died in the world wars are. Try that on for size!
immigration should be viewed through a labor perspective. Most people commenting have probably not stepped foot into a hospital or nursing home in the last 5 years. Without immigration we'd be f'd!
So just like Neel, I'm also Australian with Indian heritage. Like most ethnics, I grew up facing discrimination by anyone mostly white (majority so unsurprising). Something we've learned to put up with. These days, I've noticed a spike in discrimination and profiling. People will treat me poorly until I open my mouth and they clearly understand that I'm Australian. It's a day and night situation when these racists realise I'm not foreign and suddenly switch up. Even getting defensive when I call out on their obvious racism. Because you cant be selectively racist. It's racism. Period. So I can't even begin to imagine what all the actual immigrants are experiencing. That being said, I started asking myself: is immigration the only factor increasing demand and thus, house prices? The answer is it's one of several variables. During 2020 to 2022, house prices increased while borders were shut. Why? Historic low interest rates, super withdrawals, increased savings rate, jobseeker/jobkeeper, insurance moratorium, insolvency moratorium, etc. This all gave people extra cash to spend on housing. This raised prices. As borders were shut, immigration went negative. The first time since WW2. So given we already had a housing shortage back in 2019, why did the government increased temporary immigration? You've all seen the headlines: 500-700K immigrants entered Australia in FY23. Yet, are you aware that those figures are from the ABS? and from closer inspection, it includes ANYONE except citizens that entered Australia? Including tourists and cabin/maritime crew temporarily in the country? So if you were a tourist between July 2022 to June 2023, you were technically an 'immigrant'. 65% of that 500K number are students. They're all temporary visa holders with zero chance of getting permanent residency. Our PR cap is 190,000 per year. It never gets filled completely. International students are allowed to work 24 hours per week. This explains them driving Uber/Amazon/Menulog/Ola, etc because why would anyone else if those jobs pay poorly? Migrants arent taking the best jobs. The best jobs are for citizens and PRs. Ever notice "citizens with a badeline clearance is required" or "onlt citizens and PRs need apply" in job adverts? Thats intentional to only hire Aussies. Because it's expensive to sponsor a migrant. I've worked with migrants. Most of them after getting PR, change jobs after putting up with underpayment and exploitation by their employer. They quickly move on to better jobs after meeting all their legal immigration requirements. As they should by law. But if immigration is one variable, what are the others? Our tax system allowed negative gearing so investors can offset losses against their personal income. Our tax and banking system rewards property investors by encouraging leverage. If you acquire more properties, you can sell on profit because this country is obsessed with property growth. Building materials aren't subsidised yet concrete and glass cost considerably less in developing countries. Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Colombia, Mexico and Nigeria are all countries with greater populations and none have a housing crisis. Why? Because they don't artificially restrict housing supply. We live in the 6th largest country by land mass and we have a housing shortage. Just think about that for a second. Tradie shortage? Apparently we have a shortage of tradies yet where are all the immigrant tradies? Not in high numbers thanks to unions lobbying against this. Yet look ag the build quality done by Aussie builders. Its shockingly poor. No insulation, no double/triple glazed windows in Sydney/Melbourne/Canberra/Perth/Adelaide? Why? This is mandatory in Europe, Canada and US. Maybe we need more tradies from developed countries since our build quality is horrendous. Look at Site Inspections on UA-cam. That bloke is doing God's work. 80% of our politicians including the prime minister owns an investment property. How stuffed is that? They're literally not incentived to do anything about it. So the answer is this country is obsessed with property. It only wants those already in the market to win. But obviously with price growth, it quickly dividea your population. Thats happened in Sydney and Melbourne. Now it's happened to Brisbane/Perth/Adelaide. Only Melbourne has had price falls. Why? Their government is the only one willing to penalise property investors so much that theyve fled. Land taxes, AirBNB cap, vacant property taxes, etc. Melbourne has had more than 6 months of property declines! Yes. Thats right. Meanwhile every other market is either increasing or rock solid. And with rates get cut next year, this party will continue. Even more people will be locked out. This is Australia's housing policy.
You think racism and profiling is bad in Australia? Australia is one of the most liberal, progressive, multicultural, anti-racist countries to EVER exist in history, and fuck heads like you still complain about it!! Maybe stop comparing the country to a fantasy you cooked up in your head and compare it to other places that ACTUALLY exist. You are the problem. A 2nd gen immigrant family complaining about the behaviour of the native population. Sorry it's not to your liking. If it's so bad, why is your family in Australia instead wherever they immigrated from?
Melbourne's house prices have only declined due to investor sell offs, rent has still increased and will be even worse due to the sell off (people tend to buy larger houses than they rent so less investors means more dwelling shortages)
I feel you left a lot out regarding this topic. You side with the people saying that migration is to blame for cost of living and the rent crisis, yet I have seen articles and studies that say migration isn't actually to blame or is only a fraction of a larger problem. And there are pieces that say the stats come from think tanks, such the IPA, with unsubtle agendas and a long history of twisting the facts. One group says one thing, and one group says another -- who is actually right here?
They're fine for the most part. I live pretty close to the airport and Indians are obsessed with using their car horns so that's pretty fucking annoying. Migrant policy is ultimately the issue.
record high prices for groceries, insurances, energy and housing. record high profits for the grocery duopoly, insurance companies, the energy corporations and property developers. the media financially backed by those corporations: the problem is immigration. the people: yeah, immigration is why everything is expensive. if the hate wasn’t scary, y’all would be so funny.
I feel you left a lot out regarding this topic. You side with the people saying that migration is to blame for cost of living and the rent crisis, yet I have seen articles and studies that say migration isn't actually to blame or is only a fraction of a larger problem. And there are pieces that say the stats come from think tanks, such the IPA, with unsubtle agendas and a long history of twisting the facts. One group says one thing, and one group says another -- who is actually right here?
youtube doesnt let you post links but if you search "Australia's Housing Crisis: What I Learnt From 100+ Hours of Research". This guy has done the most exhaustive and least click batey research on the topic. TLDR: 7 main reasons. Immigration is one of them, but even without immigration we have some serious structural issues.
What’s so odd is that this is the same problem affecting Canada and the UK as well. It’s almost as if the governments are using the exact same playbook against the will of the people. What are the odds that both countries governments decide to do the exact same thing with the exact same bad results?
Nothing odd about it. It’s all
planned my friend!
It’s to destroy the white race
A Commonwealth problem.
That’s what I’ve been wondering. It’s all happening everywhere
@@lachlanmartin5573America is doing it as well. It’s not a commonwealth thing…
i was raised to be pro immigration and value multiculturalism, but as i see more and more tents in parks and people living in their cars, i feel more conservative and find myself wanting the borders to close. i don’t know a whole lot about politics; im simply trying to get by. but when you get evicted from your home to build units, and every single open house inspection has a queue of 30 people.. and you seem to be the only australians there.. its hard to maintain the values i was taught as a child.
i often find myself thinking about death, not in a suicidal way, but in a way that it will be the end of the financial pressure to try and stay afloat, which is all i’ve ever known. i know that sounds dark, but when three paychecks barely cover rent, food, petrol, bills.. it’s hard not to long for all of this to end
I'm the same. I am a son of an immigrant, born here. I find myself hating the flood of migration because it pushes rents higher and higher and supresses wages. The politicians think it's great for the economy and their property portfolios, but it's crowding our country and infrastructure and causing massive poverty nationwide.
In the exact same boat, disgrace
that’s what they banking on. you not understanding politics.
so they blame the problems on immigration and not the unregulated capitalism that caused it.
immigration only helps build nations. but humans have an innate “us vs them” mentality, that politicians and their corporate overlords use to keep you distracted.
take the housing issue…
politicians get money from property developers, they create laws to assist property developers, they deregulate property developers industry, they stop building public housing. we have a housing crisis, but property developers are wealthier than ever.
want to fix the problem, vote for a party that’ll build public and community housing. that’s how every nation has fixed their housing crisis, including australia in the 70’s.
@@jirhoud thank you it's not just me that thinks all money issues in countries (mine being UK) are based on immigration....
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That is the opposite of what they are saying. They are saying capitalism is to blame, and not immigration.
You guys have no idea of the scale of Australia's immigration rate. Britain is rioting over their immigration because they're taking in in 650k net migrants per year and they have a population of 60 million. We have a population of 23 million and we're taking in 620k net a year! Our immigration rate as a % of our population makes Canada look like Hungary. Our universities average 40+% international students with Sydney uni cracking over 50%. The highest in the USA only has 28% with the USA top 10 unis average being 23%. 1 in 10 people in Australia is on some type of student or graduate visa. The numbers are beyond anything in the OECD or the world. So when people say, our immigration isn't to high, I ask, give me an example of a country where immigration has been this high long term and has been success? It doesn't exist.
To be fair, the UK has much stricter land development policies and so everyone is crowded into much smaller homes, so it makes sense immigration would do more damage there
@@Jamcad01 Also the White British there are not some descendants of a colonising force 250 years ago. They ARE the Aborigines there.
@@pauldiezel4584yet most are descendants of Anglo-Saxon and Norman's so not exactly true now is it.
@@pauldiezel4584wether you are a coloniser from 250 years ago or a coloniser from today, over migration is screwing everyone over, even the migrants just getting here.
@@Bevtone well by your definition the Maoris are not the indigenous people of New Zealand as they've inhabited it for less time than the current English genetic stock have inhabited England, and according to the Maoris themselves, wiped out and even ate the previous indigenous peoples. Every place had some one else before. The point is the English all now identify as a people with a common language, culture, set of political and religious institutions.
The government is allowing huge migration so that GDP will grow 0.1 or 0.2% so they technically avoid a recession. Doesn't matter that per-capita GDP has been going backwards for some time now. That isn't politically damaging.
You know that if the economy went into an actual recession we would still be in a per capita recession right champ
@@andrewwaddell903 but we're not
@@andrewwaddell903 clearly you don't understand what per capita is champ.
@@andrewwaddell903 Champ
The economic factors are just a smokescreen for their real intentions. None of the people in power will be effected by by a recession or even depression. If anything, that'll make them wealthier. The true purpose of mass migration is to wipe out the indigenous peoples of Europe and their diaspora. That's why you don't see leaders in non-Western countries (except now for Japan, but that's because they're being economically ransomed by the UN) push for mass migration.
Even Philip Lowe when he was the chair of the RBA said that 'temporary migration has caused weak wage growth as employers have been using overseas hires to fill gaps that would have been filled by locals, diluting upward pressure on wages in these hotspots'. Big business loves high immigration, they own the media, and fund the research, hence the negative perception around people who are supposedly 'anti-immigration'.
Come tour in Canada mate, we have exact same cost-of-living crisis and immigrant trends as Australia. Feels like our politicians are collaborating.
It’s on the cards in the next year or two.
Essential services are on fire at the moment. House prices are so unaffordable it's disgraceful. Infrastructure is bursting at the seams with all the people. The government has it's head in the sand like nothing is wrong. What a disgusting situation Australians are forced to face due to unchecked artificial population growth without the spending to support the growth.
It's not a long term strategy. You can't just import new people to keep the economy growing without children being born at home because birthrates are dropping worldwide. At some point in the future we are going to have to either A) discover policy that successfully promotes sustainable family formation or B) design our economies around stagnation/decline. Bringing more people into the country is only kicking the can down the road, and seems to encourage social disorder of all kinds.
I think the problem is hiring skilled migrant workers from overseas than giving the same opportunities to graduate/students that are already here in bunches ! My two cents, feel free to throw it into the fountain. Cheers
Why is the government so obsessed with avoiding a recession? I’m not an economist but what’s the issue with having another ‘recession we needed to have’?
Incentive structure is popularity contest, not far-seeing administration. Ticking the box of "not in Recession" ensures you don't definitely lose the popularity contest.
Talk to anyone from the US, Ireland, Spain, etc. People that have actually experienced an economic recession.
Please understand that during the GFC, only 2 countries had positive GDP growth. Australia and Poland. It took almost 30 years for a recession (covid) to affect Australia. Currently, immigration has prevented another technical recession.
So what does an recession actually feel like?
Remember when unemployment shot up to 11% in 2020? That happens. Except instead of hospo and retail staff, it's now white and blue collar staff.
Hundreds of thousands of people are forced to sell their properties as they've lost their jobs and can't service a mortgage.
Demand for Centrelink explodes with long lines everyday.
Homelessness rises.
Crime rises.
Protests erupt. Government administrations change.
If that sounds familiar, it's because we're living in a high inflationary environment right now - GDP per capita recession as some call it.
So all those things but not as bad happens.
Australia is lucky to have natural resources and tertiary education but the long term economic outlook is grim as we can't rely on China anymore. We must diversify and boost our own productivity. Instead of being lazy and relying on population growth to increase the participation rate.
Economically, the outlook for Australia is just as bad as the UK.
It has nothing to do with votes, the overwhelming majority of our politicians are boomers, they're stealing from Australia's future to fund their lavish retirement.
No idea but friendlyjordies won't be happy with the veiled criticism of the irreproachable Labor government.
@@HyperIndian All those things are already happening.
The problem with inflation when the vacancy rate is below 1% is that housing becomes a game of musical chairs and those left with nowhere to live when the music stops are Australia's most vulnerable. Meanwhile Albo is offering a 10% discount on rent which will obviously just result in a 10% increase in rent, basically doing FA except handing tax dollars (OUR money) to the landlords profiteering off suffering. That's not incompetent, that's diabolical, and that he thinks this will get him votes shows his utter contempt for the average Australian.
He is a landlord, has multiple properties. He wants that extra 10%
Lots of people are saying migration should stop.
Good people yes, bad nasty people no.
@@erroreliminator2.076 Exactly. Good people don't want any more bad nasty people. No more of the usual suspects.
This is what comedy is best for; delivering salient talking points on hotbed topics, but couched in humour to bypass the knee-jerk response of those who tend to be accusatory or reactionary. As the saying goes, the role of the court jester is to speak truth when no one else will. Well done, mate.
What is odd is that the property value didn’t decline during Covid 🤷♂️
interesting... hopefully someone has the answer to this
Because interest rates were dropped, pumping buyers into the market
Rent did decline, especially in inner cities. However, people did seek out more space, moving out of sharehouses and into their own dwellings so it didn't drop as much as it would normally
Because they debased the currency through mass printing of money - house didnt go up in value, the currency was worth less (along with your savings and your wage)
This is becoming a cliche pro-migration crutch to lean on, the interest rates were near zero when Covid properties soared. Convenient to skip over that part.
Problem is Australia has no industry really except housing and foreign students..
And the only jobs that are worth it are in real estate or government ...
Hence the night migration of cashed up Indians and Chinese...
We shouldnt bring in people who made money and gotten rich off their own tyrannical governments before coming to Australia
We're bringing in the worst type of people from countries run by authoritarian governments.
Nothing gets people more riled up than road congestion and immigration.
Topics which so many people are off the mark.
As an immigrant in Aus I have one message for Labor. Please stop! Dial it down mates! The country's housing is in crisis mode and only property investors benefit.. Oh that explains it
Select * where hours_worked_on_restricted_visa > 20 && rental_accommodation == private.
Deport All.
Job for all. Update migrants set Job_status= "Employed", Actual_Paid_Wages = "23.23$" where hours_worked_on_restricted_visa >= 20;
The biggest problem with Migration are the student visas. Universities and governments like those tuition dollars and cheap labour student labour brings but it causes the most problems.
Bring skilled professionals from overseas instead.
We shouldnt bring in people who made money and gotten rich off their own tyrannical governments before coming to Australia
We're bringing in the worst type of people from countries run by authoritarian governments.
All the evidence out there shows that homogeneous nations made up of ethno-religious groups who are 'close enough' to function as a de-facto extended family, work much better than multi-cultural and/or multi-ethnic ethnic ones.
Though god help anyone wishing to have a rational and logical conversation about this, due to all the obvious vested interests labelling any such conversation the r word.
It doesnt mean a country needs to become a hermit kingdom though, the maintenance of a 'super-majority' of one core ethno-religious group is enough to create enough assimilation/integration pressure.
To be autistic about it, in practice this means 90-95% main group and a max 0.1% immigration py (x50-80 over a lifetime giving 5-10% immigration percentage) number.
This must be done however with all possible political, economic and cultural policies being enacted to support a positive fertility rate in the main group - but thats another conversation we're not allowed to have and that one is even more of a doozy 😂
Honest? Righto:
I moved out of Sydney after my community became non Australian. The community spirit that we were all fond of eroded away over a 10 year period until 2009.
I return to all parts of Sydney twice a year to a place I geographically recognize but that's where it stops. Though I try, I can't make good on a conversation with the new locals. We definitely don't care about each other as Australians, that's obvious, maybe they could've stopped in any other country and not cared either?
We arrived as wine producers in 1861 and were told to grow citrus. We succeeded and the pun fruits of our success is now given on to our great great great grandchildren. It's abhorrent that a new arrival can get on socialgram and declare themselves Aussie without any heritage.
In short, you can't import these peoples and expect our good natured Aussie way to continue to exist. 1.2 million people just arrived, who are they? Did they ask the First Natives/Second Natives if they could come here? It seems to be all by design, maybe they don't want me/us around.
lol I'm Australian born kiwi a product of the Anzac accord both my parents are kiwi
lineage wise the family was on the second pilgrimage boat to New Zealand,
I meet a lot of Indians, Africans others ethnicity that don't sound kiwi but love telling me there kiwi since they have a passport
and moved over here once they got it, am I meant to be happy that you piss on my grate uncles graves and use my island as a skipping stone ? like I have two set of cousin we don't have in the family due to the war but yeah okay...
What do you think the policy should be for new migrants? How do you maintain an in flow of new arrivals while maintaining shared identity and community spirit? Or do you think stop migration entirely?
I think if the rate is lower, natural assimilation would occur over a couple of years or one generation.
@@neelk this shit yu talking to you asked for. lol this guy and that guy really dude.
Your statement at the end is very hypocritical.
We all know the history of this country. British people colonised it. Then the dark years of the Indigenous followed.
If you're Anglo, did your ancestors ask the Indigenous for permission to mine the land? Clear the forests for cities? Dam rivers? Settle and bring in more immigrants?
It's incredibly hypocritical for you to say that given the history of Australia.
You're only upset now because now you feel out of place.
If that's your biggest problem in life, your community, then you're much more privileged than you realise, mate.
Because I guarantee I can find coloured people that will be as whitewashed as you'd like yet you wouldn't know unless you went to school with them, played a sport with them or worked with them. Otherwise, you just wouldn't know.
What you're complaining about are complete foreigners. Yet if you go to Alice Springs or Darwin or anywhere with a higher Aboriginal presence, you're the foreigner, buddy.
But apparently that's tolerated. Just not others.
@@johnmuir2487 it seems you have more of a conflict with your identity than they do bro
I think the government needs to say, whoever is already here can stay, but they need to seriously cool down the numbers entering
@marcelr.9035 Unless you're absolutely essential, the doors need to be shut for a decade or two. Couple of hundred a year max.
Remigration is inevitable. One way or another.
That John Farnham line cooked.
Well, we have suffered what Britain has, 10+ years of the same shit. I am glad though both parties are actually willing to do something, or at least claim they can. But there must be some consequences for failure.
And look how fucked the UK is rn
As soon as a women or children is crying on camera on the news . Because they have a cancelled visa they will dial it back .. I hope not but I heard Jordon Peterson mention it when asked on mass deportations .
We’ve set up a situation where being proud of your country and culture or just questioning immigration, you get called racist. Where as the culture we are taking in has immunity to practice there bigotry.
The biggest problem I see is that we're taking in the middle to upper class from nations with serious overpopulation and standard of living. Once they get PR they most likely don't work in their skills that they came here to do. Many just want an escape by any means possible. It means an extra person or more to the population and the skilled role they came here for will be vacant again once the PR papers are signed and sealed
Make Australia Britain again 🇬🇧😎🇬🇧
the worst part is home building has actually declined. people have no idea whats coming. anyone below middle class is going to wind up in a tent in someones backyard for 400 a week. this is not an exaggeration
Yeah, I’ll wind up in jail if that happens so I have a roof.
We’ve already broken years ago.
Come on mate, you know the answer. There's a place that literally exports housing crises, Canada's been their other victim.
It's never been about race like we so often hear. It's culture. Cultures that are happy to put 10 people in a bedroom house puts Australians on the street.
Same goes for Islam, I don't have an issue with non religious Arabs.
Australians aren't having kids because most can't afford it. The median income is 50k.
High-speed rail connecting satellite cities would help people spread out more and ease some of the pressure.
No it wouldn't. There is very little to non existent infrastructure in the country outside of the big cities. Towns everywhere are already struggling and can't handle the migrants forced upon them already
Well done mate
I was smoking a ciggy, outside a reggae bar, in my youth, and got told by a drunk Aboriginal lady to go back to where I came from , cos I wouldn't let her grab another smoke.
Me being African, I was damn confused. I thought we had each others back😂?! So I started freestyling a diss track 🤣
Black Africans are genetically more closely related to white Europeans than Australian Aboriginals. You literally only looked skin deep and thought "they're black, must be like me". Nah dude, different kind of human.
@@cheeks7050 well aware, but it wasn't that deep..just a tale about a couple of drunk people who've usually found common ground. Besides, who's ever asked to see your DNA results before racially vilifying you?? 🤷🏾♂️
@@cheeks7050they’re both more genetically related to primates than they are to Europeans.
Its way too much, everyone is drowning out here
"We will decide who enters Australia" - John Howard PM. 🇦🇺
Using the 'back door' entry indicates you know you don't pass the Test.
Alright, that last bit is 100% true. I went into the Crown Casino and I saw loads of old asian men, one of whom was dumping THOUSANDS of dollars of chips on the table and they had clearly been there for a long time.
The discussion always ends up as an all or nothing mentality. Immigration is good, I’m a second gen Italian. But just not in these numbers. It needs to be way lower. It’s definitely straining housing and just about everything.
Australia requires immigration but immigration is being used solely to further enrich the wealthy instead for the benefit of Australia society. With the help of consecutive governments with neoliberal agendas, businesses in Australia have used immigration to not invest in the local labour market by no longer putting money into making sure Australians are skilled, all to keep wages and salaries. The end result is a shortage of skilled labour by design and those who have the brains and the potential, leave Australia where their skills are recognised and rewarded accordingly.
Australia needs to return to training its people. Concentrate on skilling up our essential professions. Medical especially. There is no money saved by favouring sponsored nurses from overseas when they're required to complete a nursing degree in Australia no matter how much experience they already have. The costs of this full training would be best invested in those already living in Australia, no matter if they're citizens or permanent citizens.
I disagree that the left is anti-religion. They want religion to stop pushing themselves onto everyone else. Keep it in the home, so to speak. In the end, the left and the right are both sides of the same coin. The Left element I am skeptical of are the fabians who say they support raising people out of poverty but only if they don't have to sacrifice any of their hoarded wealth.
No society can have every issue solves by a single ideology, so we need to look at which is best from which and even come up with new ideas. Housing policy does need a hard Left turn though. Singapore's housing policy is one that should be considered but adapted to our needs. Stuff the banks and landlords. Nobody needs a road train of housing such as Ben Fordham who once admitted to own over 200 homes.
As for infrastructure. Australia does not know how to plan ahead. As a country, we build everything 20 years too late. This needs fixed but Australians will need to drop its NIMBY culture and chill on the tall poppy syndrome which went from preventing people from getting too cocky, to people exacting revenge based on feelings of jealousy and bigotry.
Agree with all of this
@@HyperIndian Your name is literally Hyper Indian.
No where 'Requires' migration, you're just trying to justify the status quo. What a cop out.
@@cheeks7050 No, it's not as simple as you see it. Immigration enriches a nation but I view the current system as incorrectly used solely for the benefit of financial rewards for the capitalist.
If you are wanting a mono-cultural society, it's too late for that. I personally prefer a healthy mix. Immigration needs to be done in a way that holistically benefits Australia, not just the money bags who bought out the political system.
Immigration enriches the state, not the nation; be careful not to conflate the two.
The government is working really hard to make housing and renting more affordable by importing large numbers of immigrants, not releasing new land and not building public housing. It's bit like saying I'm putting out this fire with some petrol. Problem is you can't actually vote your way out of the problem anymore
Love ya Neel
The big problem is that the people who oversee immigration have been gobbled up by the national security blowhards to form Dutton's desired ego trip Department of Home Affairs. Because it fights for resources with border control, the AFP and until recently ASIO, the people who provide advice to manage migration and ensure that people aren't overstaying or playing with the visa system have been playing second fiddle.
Why the current government hasn't set up Immigration as its own stand alone Department is still a mystery to me.
Common sense says "The government ignoring the people's will on immigration could lead to civil unrest".
The whole world is NOT entitled to come to Australia.
Another good one!
What do you mean when you said you have benefited from migration? And please explain the height on bumble joke I didn’t get that sorry 😅
his parents were immigrants. And he benefited from growing up in Australia as opposed to India (I assume)
He as Pakistani has benefited from living in (what was) a White country, as opposed to Pakistan.
slow the delivery down a bit, and these videos will bang. The jokes are funny, but you gotta give me a second to absorb them.
Nothing against immigration however it probably needs to be capped at around 75'000 people which is probably more sustainable than 600'000. Australia is only building 160'000 new homes per year which doesn't meet immigration needs or the local population.
That hook was an absolute banger
My stance on immigration and cultural ownership of a country more broadly is that the culture that conquers a land owns it. Like it or not, this land was conquered by europeans so thats the culture and identity that should be preserved. Not indian culture, not muslim culture, not asian culture, and not even aboriginal culture. This shouldnt be a contraversial stance, because its the way every other country and culture operates.
I'm liking this format and the jokes.
Love this style of content... you summed it up well - immigration fattens the working class which benefits the business owners and exacerbates wealth inequality.
This is just the beginning, they won't stop until they've replaced the local population, and this is coming from a 2nd gen immigrant. I don't agree with it, but it's easier to import these people than it is to actually address the problems facilitating their necessity in the first place.
So tell me. What happens when you're 'replaced'?
Sharia law and every woman covers up? If that's your answer, you're drinking too much far right koolaid buddy
The Australian people were never really allowed to choose, we never voted for this.
We have already let to many in and we need to stop now
"I'm more Australian than you"
LOL XD LOL XD
You are bloody hilarious 😂
I like it 😊
So Australia has 1400 MILLION for Ukraine, but Ozies sleeping in tents... yea well... you know... diversity, and stuff...
Ukraine is fighting for everyone
Did you mean $140 million?
If so, shit! Why do our leaders keep wasting money on this damn Ukraine project!?
@nightraven2975 no, he's saying 1.4 billion.
It’s good that the West is finally giving money to a White country. Even more gets spent on Africa, where not a single cent should be given.
Aussies* sleeping in tents lol its called camping
The whole thing is based on short sighted lazy politics of infinite growth. Both sides in every western democracy see the developing world as a tap of cheap labour to turn on in order to make sure gdp keeps going up, even though per capita its been declining since 2000. If they were honest about it, it would take some of the sting out. Instead they mythologise multiculturalism as a virtue and insist that by simply arriving and getting a piece of paper you're as Australian/British/American as anyone who was born and raised there. But of course you don't have to act like it, you can bring your own native language and culture with you, chipping away at the foundational culture that built the civilisation. If our political leaders tell us "we simply won't last without immigration" then I say we need better politicians. Either that or we deserve to not last, but we can still fade away on our terms. Not get turned into a third world ghetto of rolling street battles between competing enclaves which is what we're gonna get.
70k to 100k per year seemed like a good speed.
We need to be able work together to integrate reasonably.
If we just make pockets of nationalities who don't speak to each other we are just asking for trouble.
50k max
honestly 26k max, that means at most 0.1% of the population is what we allow in as migrants
not the 620k it is currently
We need net negative migration.
Well tbh ,this is the pacific ,and most arent from round here,much like europe wants its home back us pacific folk want ours back too
🤣 love the opening.
I'll be there for sure
Tassie always misses the good shows haha
thank you
Bro use hashtags, pay someone to do your display photos too.
Content good but seo isn’t
Its not the race that migrates that people have an issue with, its the culture that migrates.
A lot of these cultures don't want to blend in, see themselves as seperate and would rather "take over" per se.
And what does your Australian culture actually consist of so that we can actually blend in? Stay at home every evening since there is literally no place to go out at night I assumed
i have no issue with a multicultural society, in fact i welcome it (i believe the world will become multicultural), but i think there are things that are "australian" which i dont want to change, the way people drive on the road is one thing (road etiquette). I'm not making a big deal out of it, it's just an example of things that are changing which i wish wouldnt.
Race determines culture; not the other way round.
@@Doofenshmirtz1088 that's naive, because you assume there are no cultures where dominance is a value.
@@ieaatclams ja Islam will take over
Friendlyjordies just unfollowed
Of course he has lol
@@jacobjgleggy1854 the government is irreproachable. All Labor governments are. You clearly have never watched him. Lol
He refuses to talk about immigration, it's embarrassing. Same with Punters Politics.
@cheeks7050 Yeah because they're both Laborgreens supporters it's pretty obvious
Every line is a joke! How long did it take to write the script?
Australia for the Anglo Celtics we built this country it’s ours plain an simple the aborginals whinging about things from 200 years ago boot off
No mate. I voted No because it was racist af. But what you just said is redneck as hell. Australia is for everyone.. with the caveat they should absolutely assimilate into our culture and respect it.
“Australia is for white people” is incredibly stupid
You didn't build sh!t
@Bevtone, you need to read more. They did( I am not white Australian bdw)
Shut up u Fucken muppet
These migrants are getting out of control
I recently migrated to Australia, please give me your job, your boots and your mostercycle
I agree that the topic of immigration should be talked about in a serious way and not from the perspective of racism. But I rather that the people talking about it are actual experts and professors in the field and not someone like Volderdutton or your local punter.
As a first gen, I appreciate and have gotten along well with people of a lot of backgrounds, including locals. Every single community have been nice and represent beautiful values each Australian should have.
But I've seen the worst double standards amongst the historic locals.
Some claim that me and my community should 'f**k off back to where I came from' (even though I was born here) because I don't represent Australian values. The same people who terrorise children in parks saying, 'you have no right to play here because you don't pay taxes and I do', or steal from your front (and back) yard anything there is to steal, just to sell it on gumtree. Are these the Australian values that are taught??
If these are Australian values, then I surely do not represent them. I represent something better (e.g kindness to your fellow neighbour and respect to each other).
2 sides to a coin...
Not to sound conspiratorial, but the Experts are all bought and paid for. Fear of cancellation and economic incentive to tow the line for big business means Experts are frankly useless.
Also, do you know what an expert will say?
They'll say that the erosion of aussie mateship is fine and dandy because their excel spreadsheet economy is happy and green. The Experts are totally out of touch with the people.
You think that's bad, imagine your homeland being taken over by ingrates who call you racist then post obnoxious youtube comments about how racist your families that fought and died in the world wars are. Try that on for size!
immigration should be viewed through a labor perspective. Most people commenting have probably not stepped foot into a hospital or nursing home in the last 5 years. Without immigration we'd be f'd!
It had better or ALOT of Aussies are going to be HOMELESS. WAKE UP AUSTRAILA.
So just like Neel, I'm also Australian with Indian heritage.
Like most ethnics, I grew up facing discrimination by anyone mostly white (majority so unsurprising). Something we've learned to put up with. These days, I've noticed a spike in discrimination and profiling. People will treat me poorly until I open my mouth and they clearly understand that I'm Australian. It's a day and night situation when these racists realise I'm not foreign and suddenly switch up. Even getting defensive when I call out on their obvious racism. Because you cant be selectively racist. It's racism. Period.
So I can't even begin to imagine what all the actual immigrants are experiencing.
That being said, I started asking myself: is immigration the only factor increasing demand and thus, house prices?
The answer is it's one of several variables.
During 2020 to 2022, house prices increased while borders were shut. Why? Historic low interest rates, super withdrawals, increased savings rate, jobseeker/jobkeeper, insurance moratorium, insolvency moratorium, etc. This all gave people extra cash to spend on housing. This raised prices.
As borders were shut, immigration went negative. The first time since WW2. So given we already had a housing shortage back in 2019, why did the government increased temporary immigration?
You've all seen the headlines: 500-700K immigrants entered Australia in FY23. Yet, are you aware that those figures are from the ABS? and from closer inspection, it includes ANYONE except citizens that entered Australia? Including tourists and cabin/maritime crew temporarily in the country? So if you were a tourist between July 2022 to June 2023, you were technically an 'immigrant'.
65% of that 500K number are students. They're all temporary visa holders with zero chance of getting permanent residency. Our PR cap is 190,000 per year. It never gets filled completely.
International students are allowed to work 24 hours per week. This explains them driving Uber/Amazon/Menulog/Ola, etc because why would anyone else if those jobs pay poorly?
Migrants arent taking the best jobs. The best jobs are for citizens and PRs. Ever notice "citizens with a badeline clearance is required" or "onlt citizens and PRs need apply" in job adverts? Thats intentional to only hire Aussies. Because it's expensive to sponsor a migrant.
I've worked with migrants. Most of them after getting PR, change jobs after putting up with underpayment and exploitation by their employer. They quickly move on to better jobs after meeting all their legal immigration requirements. As they should by law.
But if immigration is one variable, what are the others?
Our tax system allowed negative gearing so investors can offset losses against their personal income.
Our tax and banking system rewards property investors by encouraging leverage. If you acquire more properties, you can sell on profit because this country is obsessed with property growth.
Building materials aren't subsidised yet concrete and glass cost considerably less in developing countries.
Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Colombia, Mexico and Nigeria are all countries with greater populations and none have a housing crisis. Why? Because they don't artificially restrict housing supply.
We live in the 6th largest country by land mass and we have a housing shortage. Just think about that for a second.
Tradie shortage? Apparently we have a shortage of tradies yet where are all the immigrant tradies? Not in high numbers thanks to unions lobbying against this. Yet look ag the build quality done by Aussie builders. Its shockingly poor. No insulation, no double/triple glazed windows in Sydney/Melbourne/Canberra/Perth/Adelaide? Why? This is mandatory in Europe, Canada and US. Maybe we need more tradies from developed countries since our build quality is horrendous. Look at Site Inspections on UA-cam. That bloke is doing God's work.
80% of our politicians including the prime minister owns an investment property. How stuffed is that? They're literally not incentived to do anything about it.
So the answer is this country is obsessed with property. It only wants those already in the market to win. But obviously with price growth, it quickly dividea your population. Thats happened in Sydney and Melbourne. Now it's happened to Brisbane/Perth/Adelaide.
Only Melbourne has had price falls. Why? Their government is the only one willing to penalise property investors so much that theyve fled. Land taxes, AirBNB cap, vacant property taxes, etc. Melbourne has had more than 6 months of property declines! Yes. Thats right.
Meanwhile every other market is either increasing or rock solid. And with rates get cut next year, this party will continue. Even more people will be locked out.
This is Australia's housing policy.
Shut up
You think racism and profiling is bad in Australia? Australia is one of the most liberal, progressive, multicultural, anti-racist countries to EVER exist in history, and fuck heads like you still complain about it!! Maybe stop comparing the country to a fantasy you cooked up in your head and compare it to other places that ACTUALLY exist.
You are the problem. A 2nd gen immigrant family complaining about the behaviour of the native population. Sorry it's not to your liking. If it's so bad, why is your family in Australia instead wherever they immigrated from?
Melbourne's house prices have only declined due to investor sell offs, rent has still increased and will be even worse due to the sell off (people tend to buy larger houses than they rent so less investors means more dwelling shortages)
@@HyperIndian Shut up
Yeah, 620k a year, I just don’t want to be replaced in the land I was born in.
All about chasing gdp
I feel you left a lot out regarding this topic. You side with the people saying that migration is to blame for cost of living and the rent crisis, yet I have seen articles and studies that say migration isn't actually to blame or is only a fraction of a larger problem. And there are pieces that say the stats come from think tanks, such the IPA, with unsubtle agendas and a long history of twisting the facts. One group says one thing, and one group says another -- who is actually right here?
You've seen propaganda that says immigration isn't to blame.
Well who else is going to do night shift at the servo or security at chemist warehouse?!? You!? You can’t even turn up sober.
😂🎉😢
LOL
Migrants shouldnt be the scapegoat for the failures of our political class.
They're fine for the most part. I live pretty close to the airport and Indians are obsessed with using their car horns so that's pretty fucking annoying. Migrant policy is ultimately the issue.
They aren't, they are not copping anywhere near the amount of blame they actually deserve.
I’d come and see you live but you’re not funny…
record high prices for groceries, insurances, energy and housing.
record high profits for the grocery duopoly, insurance companies, the energy corporations and property developers.
the media financially backed by those corporations: the problem is immigration.
the people: yeah, immigration is why everything is expensive.
if the hate wasn’t scary, y’all would be so funny.
...What do you think is driving the increase in the demand for all that stuff?
@@georgefrench6487 there is no increase in demand. they’re just price gouging.
@@jirhoud Rofl what are you talking about no increase in demand? What do you think migrants eat or buy or live in?
@@jirhoud you a dumbass
Migration is not high enough
I feel you left a lot out regarding this topic. You side with the people saying that migration is to blame for cost of living and the rent crisis, yet I have seen articles and studies that say migration isn't actually to blame or is only a fraction of a larger problem. And there are pieces that say the stats come from think tanks, such the IPA, with unsubtle agendas and a long history of twisting the facts. One group says one thing, and one group says another -- who is actually right here?
200k houses are built a year, yet 700K foreign people are brought in every year.
We already have peopel living in tents bro, do the basic math.
@@Yap-e6i Rent yes. Buy no. Higher rents have had only a small affect on property prices. Only 1% of property is bought by foreign buyers.
youtube doesnt let you post links but if you search "Australia's Housing Crisis: What I Learnt From 100+ Hours of Research". This guy has done the most exhaustive and least click batey research on the topic. TLDR: 7 main reasons. Immigration is one of them, but even without immigration we have some serious structural issues.
Housing aside, dealing with indians everyday is disgusting.