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Yes I am. But I may add a couple extra feet heading up on the outside. I ran a Timelapse one night and caught a spark of an ember. Nothing serious but I think another foot or 2 would be perfect. In my opinion even at 36' I think this pellet stove or similar size would be perfect. Maybe a smaller pellet stove would be more efficient? Just depends how much heat you need. But I can say in my RV this pellet stove has been great keeping us toasty warm on the coldest (-40) days! Good luck!
@@OneStrangeJourney I’m also curious about wall mount pellet stoves. 1000 sq ft rating on them. Only issue might be hanging it on a slide out wall. Not much there to anchor it to.
love your video, I have been wanting to pull the trigger on this and now you have talked me into it, I used to have a 110volt 12volt pellet stove in my house, now I'm in a 35foot rv ,nice video brother and the background music works well, thanks for the share.
I did the same thing removing my couch as it was not needed. I left the exterior chimney removable , so in transit I would have no issues… my problem, which was good problems to have, was that I would have to run the heater on the lowest possible setting with a windows cracked, otherwise I would heat us out of the camper… on the newer camper, you have to be carefully because the vinyl “stickers” that acted as trim on the ceiling would peel off from the heat.
Lol, we have to do the same sometimes. Open the windows to cool it down rather then shut off the pellet stove cause it won’t restart for like 30 minutes!
How do you keep your water tanks from freezing when it's that cold? Me and my wife just started full time RV living and arent in as cold of an area as you but are worried about freezing tanks even with an insulated underbelly
So that year I would flip the furnace one once a day for a bit to heat up the area with the pipes. As you know the ducking radiates the heat in that area. I had temp sensors in there so I could keep track of the temps. As for the tanks I installed tank heating pads and I insulated out underbelly with 1.5” foam insulation. I do have videos of both installs. They are cringy as heck but you’ll get the idea. But I’m working on something different this year to simplify it. I’ll have a video soon. But if you search up on Amazon “recpro tank heating pads” you’ll see what I got. Under $50 I think and wire up to your battery. They even have a built in thermostat so they only run during cold temps.
Just got one do you need to set the speed of the fan? I am not sure if the fan is blowing enough or if its just me thinking it needs to be set to blow the heat out more into a room like a standard heater?
Just set it at like speed 1 or 2 and give it some time. It should heat things up. if it's like mine the up and down arrows control fan speed. And please post any updates.
Hmm... I thought I did a update video. I'll do another this year before cold season starts. Right now I have it on standby with the chimney off because we have been traveling a little. But will have in full swing again soon as we get somewhere for the winter. I will say I love it. With that pellet stove I feel confident we can make it through any winter. Definitely recommend.
There really isn't any cons. If you can get past the slight sketchy side of installing one, and the space it takes up its the only way to heat an rv during cold winters. Been running a Thelin in my 32 ft 5th wheel last few years absolutely love the dry constant warmth of it vs the loud annoying propane heater.
Yep I understand. I would recommend one mainly if your daytime highs are in the 20s farenheigt or lower. When it's in the 30-40s it bakes out the rv fast and you just use it a few times a day. Plus in those temps you can't leave it running at night or it's a sauna. But we love this one and have zero issues and it has been peace of mind knowing we can stay heated no matter what temps we get. @@BrandonPeterson-c6n
Good Catch Scooter! SO last year I had a small oil heater in the compartment with the pipes and I would keep its thermostat super low. But this year I have a mod, I added some small vent fans under that circulate air into the under compartment and run off few watts. It works great and I have a video coming out in a week or so with my custom install. If you would like to see consider subscribing and you can see the complete vid!
Been running a pellet stove for a few winters in my 5th wheel. But I wasn't brave enough to cut a hole into my wall. I built a frame for my window and installed the exhaust through the window.
Looking back thats what I wish I would have done for sure. I got to looking code up and it said stay at least 1.5 feet from any windows. I shouldnt have worried about that. This way works just fine but would have bee easier that way and less permanent your way!.
@OneStrangeJourney ha I looked at the codes as well, then pissed on them since an rv isn't part of that code, and nowhere near the norm. But followed the rest of code as far as installation. I will never go back to LP as primary heat in an rv, but I'm living in mine full time at 6k ft and snow, only thing I wish I did different is a autolight/temp controlled unit as this Thelin runs hot even on low settings and I'm opening windows in negative temps. But was the only pellet stove I could find that would run off 12v in case of power outage. I doubt you'll ever see any issues with your install, keep it sealed up and water out you'll be just fine.
Yes exactly! We were opening windows in negative temps also just maintain 75 degrees. because shuttig it off is like 15-25 minutes of cool down. by the time she's cooled down and finally off its time to turn back on. Screw propane, thats our back up or mild weather source. Not to mention the moisture it brings. I am actually days away from getting the pellet stove hooked back up for winter. We are in North Wyoming this year. @@YourDadsBoyfriend
so the pipe comes right apart and I have a vent cap to cover the hole. Only takes a few minutes to disasemble. I think i have a vid showing that process.
Wish someone would make a smaller pellet stove for off-grid/RV situations. I want to do the same thing, but I don't need to heat 2000 sqft! I've tried using the factory heater, catalytic propane heaters (Big Buddy and Wave-6), a diesel heater, and electric space heaters. Where I live and work, the electric space heaters gave me the most efficient and consistent heat in the RV. I see that you're in Conrad. I'm currently working for IHS in either Browning or Crow Agency. Great minds think alike in cold weather!
There is a smaller pellet stove on Amazon. I noticed all the big stores like home-depot discontinued it though so worried it may have issues but it was made for 800sqft. Also it only held like 18lbs of pellets so needed to be refilled every 4 hours. So far this one is doing great. On low she keeps it nice and warm when we are in the teens. And I love knowing I have plenty of more heating power if I want it! That’s pretty wild your right up there. How do you like it? We went through Browning once.
@@OneStrangeJourney Rez life is not just for anyone. My wife is a nurse and will join me on the road soon, but I won't let her work out here. Wayyyy too dangerous for someone like her. It amazes me to see the living conditions here. In some ways worse than a 3rd-world country.
If you can afford it, I recommend the Thelin stoves, they look great, smallish footprint (although still takes up a lot of space in an rv) and can run them on 12v if needed. Love mine, but will still make you open windows until it gets really cold outside. Also different brands of pellets provide a wide range of btu value and you could test which works best for you.
Just installed one my self my only concern is heating the underbelly i bought a comfortbilt hp 50! Has eco mode to set a temp and turn on and off. My concern now is heating my underbelly havent figured the problem yet.
Nope. It worked just fine like that. Zero issues. I had the extra pipe to do so but never felt necessary. No pellet ash ever even made it out the pipe.
Looks like a much better heat source Than propane. Instead of cutting a large hole in your slide out would it be possible to open or remove a window, then install in it's place a sheet of thick aluminum and then cut your venting in that?
Are you finding that it is hard to move the heat throughout the RV? Does using your A/C fan "on" move it evenly? Also, what do you expect your heating cost to be living in the RV? I love the idea, but wonder if a multi zone mini split would work better, if you had the power.
Mini-splits don't work well up here in the winter. Air is too dry and temps too cold. I run my pellet stove at home for about $5 a day. Was -20F outside last week without the wind chill and my living room was 72F. My gas furnace would be quadruple the cost. Bought my place in Dec 2016 and spent $1000 the first month we were there trying to keep the place warm with wind chills @ -54F. Wood stove would also do it, but I'm not stacking/hauling wood. Grew up doing that and its pretty messy compared to a bag of pellets.
A mini split is def going to happen this year but mainly for cooling aspect. The pellet stove definitely heats the 5th wheel evenly without much need for fans. No issues there. As for the heating costs a bag of pellets is $6 and we can run the pellet stove on low for maybe 16 hours on one bag. But usually it will bake us out if we run non stop so we turn off every 3-4 hours. One bag usually last 1.5 - 2 days when it’s in the teens outside.
@@OneStrangeJourney The mini split would be a great complement to your pellet stove. My buddy has one that he uses to heat his shop and it will work decently down to the single digits. They work better today than they did years ago. Summer time is a no brainer, you could actually hear the TV when you watch it. IMO, the cost is entirely based upon the acquisition costs. You said $6 for a bag of pellets, I see $9-11 where I look, but that is not in bulk, you probably buy it by the pallet/ton. From past experience you have to run high grade pellets to make the stoves work when using them full time. Weekend warriors can burn the cheap stuff, but when you need the stove 24/7 that is another story. Propane is the same way, filling 30-100 lb bottles at Tractor Supply, at 3.69/gal is way different than a 500 gallon tank at 1.25 to 1.60. I do not live in an RV full time but stay in my 40' destination trailer during the weekends, for ice fishing. My RV is not by any means a 4 season RV, but it's new and built decently. (decent as far as any RV could be) They are all horribly built. With any wind at all and temps down in the single digits, my 50K BTU propane furnace and (1) 5K BTU electric heater will keep it in the 60's inside, but they run non stop when the sun is down. Your RV has to be built way different than mine for a 32K BTU pellet stove to keep it warm inside below zero. Based off of the BTU factor, 91K for 1 gallon of propane, 320K for 40lbs of pellets, using $6/bag and $1.50 for propane, here is my math for running a 32K BTU device. Propane is $.53/hr to run and Pellets are $.60/hr to run. If you buy your propane in a portable bottle at $3.60/gallon (my local costs) it would be $1.27/hr to run. If you buy a bag of pellets one at a time for $10 it would be $1/hr to run. Sorry I have a tendency to over analyze stuff, I am by no means saying you are doing any wrong, I am just interested in what you have in the works.
@@matthewhidy852 I agree. Our pellets at $6 per bag and we were told they are great quality over the $10 per bag ones. But who knows. The auger would feed them at the same speed not matter what, and on the lowest setting we cant run all day unless we are below zero. Its on for 3-4 hours then off for another few hours. But another few reasons are when our gas furnace is on we are still using at least 1,000 watts. The pellet stove less then 100 watts. Big difference when boon docking. Another issue was my bonehead kid broke a propane line when it was -25 f out swapping tanks. Our regulator switch was also malfunctioning and we couldn’t stop the leak even when running off the other side. Luckily I was able to plug the line up with some epoxy but it made me think. We need a second dependable way to heat our RV if we are going to be in these temps or we could die. We have 3 kids, 3 dogs, a cat and 2 guinea pigs (sp?). Thats when I came up with the bright idea for the pellet stove. Few moving parts and easy to work on. In our situation its more cost effective because in -30f our furnace will blow through a 30lb tank in a day and the wood stove would use maybe 1.5 bags if ran for 24 hours strait. As for the Chimney piping. I can remove it all in 5 minutes and have a vent cover that will go over the hole and you'll never know it was there. It is not for everyone, but I like redundancy. I like knowing I have a backup plan if shit hits the fan. Also in the future I want to be full solar. And I think its just COOL😎.. But my next upgrade will be a 12k BTU pioneer mini split. I have used them before and they cool great and can heat real well until it gets below 30 outside then their performance goes down from my experience. But still under normal conditions will run on much less electricity then these 2 roof mounted ac units!
We love it. Usually dont use much till it's in the 30s or it will heat you out. But once we are in the 30s or lower it's great. Once it hits 80 we usually sit her off but there are times in middle of the night instead of shutting off I would just open windows to regulate temps. Fellow RVers though we were crazy opening windows in -20F.
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Castle Serenity Stove 12327 Wood Pellet with Smart Controller
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SELKIRK Corp Type L Pellet Kit, 3-4-Inch
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IMPERIAL GROUP USA BM0415 Stove Board
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Ryobi Battery powered Caulking tool
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I'm getting ready to install a pellet stove in my fifth wheel. Thank you for doing this video...
No problem and good luck!
Are you still using the same chimney set up?
Any recommendations on a smaller unit? My 5th wheels only 36ft.
Yes I am. But I may add a couple extra feet heading up on the outside. I ran a Timelapse one night and caught a spark of an ember. Nothing serious but I think another foot or 2 would be perfect. In my opinion even at 36' I think this pellet stove or similar size would be perfect. Maybe a smaller pellet stove would be more efficient? Just depends how much heat you need. But I can say in my RV this pellet stove has been great keeping us toasty warm on the coldest (-40) days! Good luck!
@@OneStrangeJourney I’m also curious about wall mount pellet stoves. 1000 sq ft rating on them. Only issue might be hanging it on a slide out wall. Not much there to anchor it to.
love your video, I have been wanting to pull the trigger on this and now you have talked me into it, I used to have a 110volt 12volt pellet stove in my house, now I'm in a 35foot rv ,nice video brother and the background music works well, thanks for the share.
Thank you! Glad it helped. I have zero regrets! It’s -15f right now and my Rv is 72 with it set on lowest setting!
I did the same thing removing my couch as it was not needed. I left the exterior chimney removable , so in transit I would have no issues… my problem, which was good problems to have, was that I would have to run the heater on the lowest possible setting with a windows cracked, otherwise I would heat us out of the camper… on the newer camper, you have to be carefully because the vinyl “stickers” that acted as trim on the ceiling would peel off from the heat.
Lol, we have to do the same sometimes. Open the windows to cool it down rather then shut off the pellet stove cause it won’t restart for like 30 minutes!
How do you keep your water tanks from freezing when it's that cold? Me and my wife just started full time RV living and arent in as cold of an area as you but are worried about freezing tanks even with an insulated underbelly
So that year I would flip the furnace one once a day for a bit to heat up the area with the pipes. As you know the ducking radiates the heat in that area. I had temp sensors in there so I could keep track of the temps. As for the tanks I installed tank heating pads and I insulated out underbelly with 1.5” foam insulation. I do have videos of both installs. They are cringy as heck but you’ll get the idea. But I’m working on something different this year to simplify it. I’ll have a video soon. But if you search up on Amazon “recpro tank heating pads” you’ll see what I got. Under $50 I think and wire up to your battery. They even have a built in thermostat so they only run during cold temps.
Does it heat you out? Does it put out too much heat? Is it too warm?
Just got one do you need to set the speed of the fan? I am not sure if the fan is blowing enough or if its just me thinking it needs to be set to blow the heat out more into a room like a standard heater?
Just set it at like speed 1 or 2 and give it some time. It should heat things up. if it's like mine the up and down arrows control fan speed. And please post any updates.
Best video ever! Thank you 🙏
Well thank you so much!!
Good stove I have one now for 4-1/2 years it will Crank the heat out
Thats great to hear, I love how simple and effective these pellet stoves are! Do you have yours in a home or RV?
Would love an update of pros and cons! I think this is how I want to go for heating!
Hmm... I thought I did a update video. I'll do another this year before cold season starts. Right now I have it on standby with the chimney off because we have been traveling a little. But will have in full swing again soon as we get somewhere for the winter. I will say I love it. With that pellet stove I feel confident we can make it through any winter. Definitely recommend.
There really isn't any cons.
If you can get past the slight sketchy side of installing one, and the space it takes up its the only way to heat an rv during cold winters.
Been running a Thelin in my 32 ft 5th wheel last few years absolutely love the dry constant warmth of it vs the loud annoying propane heater.
Absolutely agree!@@YourDadsBoyfriend
Have been wanting put one in our trailer, gets cold and having to run space heaters is really expensive.
Yep I understand. I would recommend one mainly if your daytime highs are in the 20s farenheigt or lower. When it's in the 30-40s it bakes out the rv fast and you just use it a few times a day. Plus in those temps you can't leave it running at night or it's a sauna. But we love this one and have zero issues and it has been peace of mind knowing we can stay heated no matter what temps we get. @@BrandonPeterson-c6n
Have you had water lines freeze in the under belly with no heat running through the ducts?
Good Catch Scooter! SO last year I had a small oil heater in the compartment with the pipes and I would keep its thermostat super low. But this year I have a mod, I added some small vent fans under that circulate air into the under compartment and run off few watts. It works great and I have a video coming out in a week or so with my custom install. If you would like to see consider subscribing and you can see the complete vid!
Been running a pellet stove for a few winters in my 5th wheel.
But I wasn't brave enough to cut a hole into my wall.
I built a frame for my window and installed the exhaust through the window.
Looking back thats what I wish I would have done for sure. I got to looking code up and it said stay at least 1.5 feet from any windows. I shouldnt have worried about that. This way works just fine but would have bee easier that way and less permanent your way!.
@OneStrangeJourney ha I looked at the codes as well, then pissed on them since an rv isn't part of that code, and nowhere near the norm. But followed the rest of code as far as installation.
I will never go back to LP as primary heat in an rv, but I'm living in mine full time at 6k ft and snow, only thing I wish I did different is a autolight/temp controlled unit as this Thelin runs hot even on low settings and I'm opening windows in negative temps. But was the only pellet stove I could find that would run off 12v in case of power outage.
I doubt you'll ever see any issues with your install, keep it sealed up and water out you'll be just fine.
Yes exactly! We were opening windows in negative temps also just maintain 75 degrees. because shuttig it off is like 15-25 minutes of cool down. by the time she's cooled down and finally off its time to turn back on. Screw propane, thats our back up or mild weather source. Not to mention the moisture it brings. I am actually days away from getting the pellet stove hooked back up for winter. We are in North Wyoming this year. @@YourDadsBoyfriend
What do you do with the pipe when you want to go camping?
so the pipe comes right apart and I have a vent cap to cover the hole. Only takes a few minutes to disasemble. I think i have a vid showing that process.
Wish someone would make a smaller pellet stove for off-grid/RV situations. I want to do the same thing, but I don't need to heat 2000 sqft! I've tried using the factory heater, catalytic propane heaters (Big Buddy and Wave-6), a diesel heater, and electric space heaters. Where I live and work, the electric space heaters gave me the most efficient and consistent heat in the RV. I see that you're in Conrad. I'm currently working for IHS in either Browning or Crow Agency. Great minds think alike in cold weather!
There is a smaller pellet stove on Amazon. I noticed all the big stores like home-depot discontinued it though so worried it may have issues but it was made for 800sqft. Also it only held like 18lbs of pellets so needed to be refilled every 4 hours. So far this one is doing great. On low she keeps it nice and warm when we are in the teens. And I love knowing I have plenty of more heating power if I want it!
That’s pretty wild your right up there. How do you like it? We went through Browning once.
@@OneStrangeJourney Rez life is not just for anyone. My wife is a nurse and will join me on the road soon, but I won't let her work out here. Wayyyy too dangerous for someone like her. It amazes me to see the living conditions here. In some ways worse than a 3rd-world country.
@@InTheDirtAgain Yea when we drove through, it looked a little run down and we were told not to stop. But I have seen worse.
If you can afford it, I recommend the Thelin stoves, they look great, smallish footprint (although still takes up a lot of space in an rv) and can run them on 12v if needed. Love mine, but will still make you open windows until it gets really cold outside.
Also different brands of pellets provide a wide range of btu value and you could test which works best for you.
Just installed one my self my only concern is heating the underbelly i bought a comfortbilt hp 50! Has eco mode to set a temp and turn on and off. My concern now is heating my underbelly havent figured the problem yet.
Wondering if you might have any regrets on not extending your exhaust pipe above the roof line?
Nope. It worked just fine like that. Zero issues. I had the extra pipe to do so but never felt necessary. No pellet ash ever even made it out the pipe.
Looks like a much better heat source
Than propane.
Instead of cutting a large hole in your slide out would it be possible to open or remove a window, then install in it's place a sheet of thick aluminum and then cut your venting in that?
Yes and I considered that. Definitely would work and you could reinstall the window during the summer.
Are you finding that it is hard to move the heat throughout the RV? Does using your A/C fan "on" move it evenly? Also, what do you expect your heating cost to be living in the RV? I love the idea, but wonder if a multi zone mini split would work better, if you had the power.
Mini-splits don't work well up here in the winter. Air is too dry and temps too cold. I run my pellet stove at home for about $5 a day. Was -20F outside last week without the wind chill and my living room was 72F. My gas furnace would be quadruple the cost. Bought my place in Dec 2016 and spent $1000 the first month we were there trying to keep the place warm with wind chills @ -54F. Wood stove would also do it, but I'm not stacking/hauling wood. Grew up doing that and its pretty messy compared to a bag of pellets.
A mini split is def going to happen this year but mainly for cooling aspect. The pellet stove definitely heats the 5th wheel evenly without much need for fans. No issues there. As for the heating costs a bag of pellets is $6 and we can run the pellet stove on low for maybe 16 hours on one bag. But usually it will bake us out if we run non stop so we turn off every 3-4 hours. One bag usually last 1.5 - 2 days when it’s in the teens outside.
@@InTheDirtAgain agree 100%
@@OneStrangeJourney The mini split would be a great complement to your pellet stove. My buddy has one that he uses to heat his shop and it will work decently down to the single digits. They work better today than they did years ago. Summer time is a no brainer, you could actually hear the TV when you watch it. IMO, the cost is entirely based upon the acquisition costs. You said $6 for a bag of pellets, I see $9-11 where I look, but that is not in bulk, you probably buy it by the pallet/ton. From past experience you have to run high grade pellets to make the stoves work when using them full time. Weekend warriors can burn the cheap stuff, but when you need the stove 24/7 that is another story. Propane is the same way, filling 30-100 lb bottles at Tractor Supply, at 3.69/gal is way different than a 500 gallon tank at 1.25 to 1.60. I do not live in an RV full time but stay in my 40' destination trailer during the weekends, for ice fishing. My RV is not by any means a 4 season RV, but it's new and built decently. (decent as far as any RV could be) They are all horribly built. With any wind at all and temps down in the single digits, my 50K BTU propane furnace and (1) 5K BTU electric heater will keep it in the 60's inside, but they run non stop when the sun is down. Your RV has to be built way different than mine for a 32K BTU pellet stove to keep it warm inside below zero. Based off of the BTU factor, 91K for 1 gallon of propane, 320K for 40lbs of pellets, using $6/bag and $1.50 for propane, here is my math for running a 32K BTU device. Propane is $.53/hr to run and Pellets are $.60/hr to run. If you buy your propane in a portable bottle at $3.60/gallon (my local costs) it would be $1.27/hr to run. If you buy a bag of pellets one at a time for $10 it would be $1/hr to run. Sorry I have a tendency to over analyze stuff, I am by no means saying you are doing any wrong, I am just interested in what you have in the works.
@@matthewhidy852 I agree. Our pellets at $6 per bag and we were told they are great quality over the $10 per bag ones. But who knows. The auger would feed them at the same speed not matter what, and on the lowest setting we cant run all day unless we are below zero. Its on for 3-4 hours then off for another few hours.
But another few reasons are when our gas furnace is on we are still using at least 1,000 watts. The pellet stove less then 100 watts. Big difference when boon docking.
Another issue was my bonehead kid broke a propane line when it was -25 f out swapping tanks. Our regulator switch was also malfunctioning and we couldn’t stop the leak even when running off the other side. Luckily I was able to plug the line up with some epoxy but it made me think. We need a second dependable way to heat our RV if we are going to be in these temps or we could die. We have 3 kids, 3 dogs, a cat and 2 guinea pigs (sp?).
Thats when I came up with the bright idea for the pellet stove. Few moving parts and easy to work on. In our situation its more cost effective because in -30f our furnace will blow through a 30lb tank in a day and the wood stove would use maybe 1.5 bags if ran for 24 hours strait.
As for the Chimney piping. I can remove it all in 5 minutes and have a vent cover that will go over the hole and you'll never know it was there.
It is not for everyone, but I like redundancy. I like knowing I have a backup plan if shit hits the fan. Also in the future I want to be full solar. And I think its just COOL😎..
But my next upgrade will be a 12k BTU pioneer mini split. I have used them before and they cool great and can heat real well until it gets below 30 outside then their performance goes down from my experience. But still under normal conditions will run on much less electricity then these 2 roof mounted ac units!
Why don’t I have sound?
I dont know, thats a bummer. May be your computer. try it on a cell phone.
ROUND HOLE FOR ROUND PIPE 🤔? Why not 😂
lol
Instead of drilling a circle 🔵 size to fit that.... smh
Yea I know, pretty rednecky. it was cold and I was in rural Montana with not a lot of resources at the time. But Hey it works and looks goo now.
Does it heat you out? Does it put out too much heat? Is it too warm?
We love it. Usually dont use much till it's in the 30s or it will heat you out. But once we are in the 30s or lower it's great. Once it hits 80 we usually sit her off but there are times in middle of the night instead of shutting off I would just open windows to regulate temps. Fellow RVers though we were crazy opening windows in -20F.