Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae | The 1st Way to Prove God's Existence | Philosophy Core Concepts
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This is a video in my new Core Concepts series -- designed to provide students and lifelong learners a brief discussion focused on one main concept from a classic philosophical text and thinker.
This Core Concept video focuses on Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologiae, First Part, question 2 "On The Existence of God". This video focuses in particular on his discussion in article 3, which sets out the famous "Five Ways," each of which is a separate argument for the existence of God, conceived in some specific manner. Each of these is intended to be an a posteriori argument. The first way focuses on motion or change, and argues that God is the Prime Mover.
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Very interesting explanation of the first way. Greetings from a greek palamite scholar!!
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Thanks!
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Forgetting about the mystery of time which is needed for change and may not exist outside of our spacetime, the idea that there was a point where there was no movement and something started it seems almost as bizarre as an infinite regress or endless cyclic reality. It's like saying all of reality had a beginning, hard to find an answer that makes sense?
It sounds like you’re having trouble finding an answer that makes sense to you
Why does Thomas say that the infinite regression of the movers is impossible in essentially ordered series?
It’s right there in the text and in the video
@@GregoryBSadler Is it possible to consider an essentially ordered chain of something as a whole?
@@sigurd2436 I expect you can consider whatever you like as whatever you like, using your imagination. No idea what relevance that has here
I like this.
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I might not be understanding something about the larger context, because I don't see why we're so easily equating a first mover with God. It doesn't seem strange or contradictory to me for an atheist to agree with this argument yet remain an atheist.
Then it doesn’t work for you, I guess. That’s the way arguments about this kind of stuff work
And, just so you’re clear, there’s no “equating” going on here, unless you’re using that term in a weird sense
@@GregoryBSadler Perhaps that's all it is. It just seems unexpected (impossible?) for an argument to be such that one could potentially accept the premises, and the reasoning, and the conclusion yet it not work for them.
Yep. Lots of arguments work like that, you’ll find
It's definition, that is where the problem lies I think. I'm not a theist either, and I find these most religious ideas most valuable and understandable when I understand God as something like "that which is the most correct/right/good".
Those three words and ALL their various meanings share a common origin, and they all relate to an alignment with reality 'that which is' or 'that which is within which we are'.
If reality would not be, or would not have started, or would not have become or whatever, that would not be good, botg because reality obviously is (contradiction is false, false =bad), and because being is better than not being (provable by contradiction again) whatever caused being must be part of the ultimate conception of good/right/correct