Finding Uranium Ore in the Road at Poison Canyon
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2023
- In this video I explore a different uranium mining area around Poison Canyon, New Mexico. This uranium mining area is just north of Grants, NM...along with a bunch of other uranium mines.
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Miners are a resourceful bunch. The reason you can find old cars at mine sites is because they would repurpose the engines to run the compressors and other heavy equipment such as winches for the mine shafts.
If you find a car that looks like it has had the engine taken out that is probably why.
Miners are pretty resourceful that’s for sure.
The cement slab itself covers the hole or pile of radiogenic material. Specifically in the case of the mine marker being on a slab it's a cover for the mine. I know this because I worked on government radiogenic cleanup and concrete filling and slab covers are popular because the obvious benefits of concrete to cover or seal radiogenic materials. Everything from powerplant waste to old outdated damaged warheads encase it in cement thick enough for a bunker. This is also why I love your channel love the footwork you do into potentially vary vary hot crap situations. looking for the stuff that makes a radiogenic detector scream all the time is definitely not a thing anyone really wants to do for a living!
Cement can be a great shield if it’s thick enough. Maybe I can find an old report on the actions they took in the area.
Shouldn't be scared of cancer anymore with whole genome sequencing at 60X+ depth being so cheap now, but the ionizing and toxicity damage to stem cell reserves needs addressing in your diet if this is a common activity. Exposure has a similar life exoectancy drop as smoking and drinking, with different behavioral symptoms
So you’re part of the people destroying historic sites
The American West is so beautiful. If you have never read him Cormac McCarthy (no country for old men) captures it so well in his books.
I haven’t read the book but the film is one of my favorites.
I spent some time in that area earlier this year. There’s a cool mining museum in Grants that informs about the uranium mining in that area. I also made a summit attempt at Mt. Taylor and failed due to the snow levels up high. Great exploration spot and I can’t wait to go back.
I’ll have to check out that mining museum next time I’m in the area.
The museum is really worth wile and has a great mineral display. Some of the older folks who work their used to be in the mining industry.
@mr.microcuries2078 I’ll have to check it out and possibly do a video about it next time I’m in Grants…maybe this April.
Mine air is like old theater air. I totally get you. It's the scent of damp, must, stones, oil, time and secret places. Hard to describe but you know it when you smell it.
I've worked in some and been in others.
With all of the antique pieces, that area would be wonderful to go over with a metal detector.
There would be loads of targets there.
"Well, I don't know but I've been told uranium ore's worth more that gold..."
ohhh...ohhh...ohhh...ohhh...ohhhhhhh.....ohhhhhhhhhhh
Uranium fever
Bro enjoyed this comment way too much 💀
The concrete slab you were standing on was the 'cap' for the old shaft. They seal them up like that in case they decide to open the mine later they just break the slab. Plus its so thick and heavy the general public would not be able to get in there.
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen any that big…if that’s in fact what it was. Usually the caps I’ve seen are much smaller.
May have been a pretty large mineshaft.@@RadioactiveDrew
@EvilTurkeySlices it could have been. I need to look up reports from the area.
Where do you buy Geiger counters and such?
The scenery in these videos is absolutely amazing, and the clicking of the geiger counter adds an eerie backdrop which makes them so compelling! Great camera/video work Drew. Some of these shots are really awesome. Living in the UK this is like an alien landscape, but so beautiful. Best videos on You Tube!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the video. There are some really unique areas to visit out in the desert.
I explored that area about 4 years ago, I think I was on the other side of the road from where you were. There were several small open pit locations with tailing piles. One of the pits even had a few old vehicles pushed in to it. I was lucky enough to arrange a meet up with a local professor by the name of Steven that I met in a geology group. When I came out there he showed me several spots where there was surface deposits. Between us we split about 60 lbs of ore that was between 75k - 160k CPM which we hauled out of there. He has since retired from teaching and takes people on tours . If you revisit the area and want his contact info, let me know.
I think I’ve been out to the area you are talking about the year before. I also think I’ve emailed back and forth with that same guy…maybe. I want to explore Poison Canyon some more this next April.
I went to this site in August and the gates and fences were a discouragement from exploring the area.
Not knowing local laws makes it real hard to know what I could get access to.
There are several other mines in the area which I thought were also worth exploring but much the same situation, not sure what is private and what was not. I did also explore around the Mt Taylor mine and found a ice piece of coffinite on the side of the road. It fits the description of the grey sand-stony minerals typically found in the area.
OnX is a great app to use to see where property boundaries are...seems to be pretty accurate from what I've seen.
Thank you for the great video! From a Japanese uranium enthusiast
Glad you enjoyed it.
Each outdoor venture is entertaining. Thank you for this one. Nice breeze. Those mine odors are a nice surprise.
I love being outside exploring. Kind of the reason why I love living up in Montana.
usually toxic gas lol
I have an idea that might make a good video, since you often drive around in these radioactive areas, I'm wondering how much of that gets stuck in your car's air filter. The next time you have to change it , you could measure it and see if any radio activity can be found 😀
I would imagine very little gets in there.
I know my Japanese Built toyotas have a swirl pot etc and the intake is waynup high in the fender, even on dusty roads very little makes it up there.
@user-mb2yf2em6p exactly.
I wish I knew about this site when my brother and I sprinkled our dad´s ashes! We bypassed that area to get to Trinity and the Valley of Fire. Now I have an excuse to drive through New Mexico again!
I collected in Poison Canyon about 20 years ago. I think I was south of where you were and gained access via a badly washed out old forest service road that got so bad I couldn't make it out to any of the mines. The road was covered in apache tears. I did find a fair number of conical piles of white limestone just dumped on the landscape here and there. If it wasn't white it was a uranium mineral. Lots of fun.
I think that was what you needed, after so much Oppenheimer ?!
I realy LOVE your vids !
Greet's from Poland
After Oppenheimer it was great to finally be free from babysitting that 70mm print.
Thank you showing us the uranium in poison canyon I might maybe go there one day it's an honor to watch your videos
Thanks. Glad you’re enjoying them.
Thanks for taking us to interesting places most of us will never get a chance to visit. Much appreciated.
No problem. Glad you enjoyed the trip.
that's why I carry Bolt cutters! I do it here in Idaho and won't hesitate to open a road
I carry bolt cutters as well for…situations. But I don’t the whole situation there.
Just got back from our trip south of Moab and into Colorado. You've hooked a new hobbyist. My Ranger detector got up to 50,000 on a nice yellow piece we found across the road from Uravan. The campground was full so we must have hit a reunion weekend. Local public radio was having an interview with a woman who grew up there and heads up the local historical society. Real interesting! As a side question, what kind of backpack are you using. It seems to have held up well. Keep up the great videos!!
Glad I got you hooked.
I've been out there a couple of times and found a lot of interesting samples including some non-radioactive but very interesting crystal clusters. Now that I have a Radiacode and a Raysid, I need to find some time to head back out there and do some mapping.
Those camera shots of you walking the trail only makes me think about you doing that just for our entertainment and you having to walk back to pick up the camera lol
Sometimes you have to put in a little work to tell a story.
That concrete that you thought was the foundation, may have been a sealed shaft. The part of the concrete with the rids sticking out of it may have been the base for the cable winch for the elevator. I've seen a lot of coal elevators sealed off the same way.
Some other people have said the same thing. Usually shaft caps are a bit smaller than that…at least at other sites I’ve explored.
@@RadioactiveDrew Looks like a shop foundation. The bolt-down footings were probably for a compressor. Poison Canyon ran rubber-tire equipment underground so shop space would be required for engine/transmission swings and any PM work not done down the hole. I worked a sand mine on one of the Pueblo reservations with a loader operator who previously ran Young Buggy trucks underground at Poison Canyon.
That abandoned mine marker was probably put on that concrete after the mine was filled and sealed with concrete to prevent access. Essentially you where standing directly on an entrance to the mine
That’s what others have said. Guess that would explain a lot.
Ah the ever persistent search for hot rocks. Another great video Drew!
Glad you enjoyed it. Hot rocks are fun to find…especially when you find some that are cookin.
Thank you for the explore Drew. Your videos are interesting and entertaining.
Thanks. I’m glad you liked it.
Even though you didn't find anything really hot or spectacularly interesting, the video was still fun to watch. Thanks for taking the time to film these and then put them together and post them.
Glad you enjoyed it. The journey can be fun even if nothing super fascinating is found.
I love these adventures, these videos are always something to look forward to! Thanks again Drew!!
Stay safe
Thanks for watching. Always nice to hear people like these videos.
There are some interesting channels on UA-cam. You definitely have one of them, I like the way you deliver the video to your audience, I feel like I am on the adventure with you.
My mother lives out in Coyote Springs Arizona.
I had the pleasure of driving through the desert once from California back to Massachusetts, I love the desert, I will go back someday to explore. Nice and dry.
They have uranium yellow glass cup at the Sandwich glass museum in cape cod inside a glass case with a Geiger counter.
Hey, if you ever come to eastern Canada there's a nuclear powerplant that is being decommissioned for a couple of years. I worked there for a week last year as a contractor, the people there were super nice and showed us the place. It's in Quebec, Gentilly and it's owned by Hydro Quebec.
I’ll have to look into it. Would be nice to make another video like that.
I always enjoy your videos Drew. Just the simple exploring in such beautiful country is great to see.
I’m glad you enjoy these little exploring videos. It’s fun to try and make a video of a place when I have no idea what I’m going to find.
Last week i spend the entire day trying to get into Natianl forest but this "Cambell global corp" has bought up all the land bordering it for timber use and gated off all access roads to national forest. Cherry on top is you can call them and purchase a permit for $400 to gain access, not for your car but for a horse bike or walking... even though they are using trucks and logging trucks, dozers etc... really just makes you want to bring an oxy acetylene torch wherever you go...
I don’t like that…when a company gets a lease on some land for lumber or mining there should still be some access for the public.
that company is owned by JP morgan chase.. so you all know
Which National Forest are you speaking of?
@@foxfloofhandy Mt baker-Snoqualmie
@@llama9274 And BlackRock is majority share holder in Jp Morgan chase :D
Thanks for posting
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Thank you for making another video, i do really enjoy them.
Glad you enjoy them...thanks for watching and the comment.
Very cool stuff man. Thx for sharing
No problem. Thanks for watching.
Uranium fever!
Thanks Drew
No problem. Thanks for the comments and the view.
Great vid love seeing this kind of stuff!!
I enjoy making it. It’s always nice to go on a nice hike exploring old mining sites.
Another awesome video. You are great making content. Congratulations.
Thanks Rob.
Just found your site, I am more into history than atomic knowledge but really enjoy your site.You do a fantastic job of explaining things you are showing us.
Thanks...I try and explain it as best I can.
WOW that marker is so cool. And the power lines going there, wow, it's all so shady (in a good way). Amazing how you can see the bright yellow in the rocks on the ground! Can't wait to check that place out myself soon.
It’s a cool place to explore. I’m hoping to do some more exploring in the future.
Cattle ranchers will often lock gates when the public leaves them wide open after driving through them. Doesn't make it right, but I can understand why they do it in some circumstances. Especially since it can cause huge problems if their cattle are found grazing on the wrong land.
But that doesn't look like very good grazing land, so who knows why the gates are locked.
Land owners just want to keep everyone out, so by locking the gate they will keep those who aren't so sure about actual laws and BLM land will simply stay off ultimately reducing the number of folks who come onto the land. Also, depending upon grazing rights, during grazing season they may have the authority to lock the gates and then during non grazing season they are required to open or unlock them.
Had a cattle rancher try to tell me I didn’t belong on BLM land lol. I educated him on the fact that he’s leasing public land from the state and that I do in fact: belong.
I get it though. His gate was wide-open when I arrived so I closed it. Although, his cattle had already escaped by then.
You can’t camp within 1/4 mile of most watering holes ‘round here, but no rancher is gonna kick me off of public lands. Buy your land if you want that control, but when you’re leasing land from the state - you are leasing the land from all of us. Cattle ranchers sure think they can push everyone around, but I wasn’t gonna take any beef from him. 😂
@paraglidingprospector I’m sure the rancher knew all that. He probably just wanted to play dumb because he was giving you a hard time.
Oh and i think that brass marker is something they put in the conctete to designate that there was a shaft there and its been plugged.
That’s what some other people have said.
great footage
Thanks.
When Drew finds a "hot piece," he brings it home.
Very true. I have a couple 5 gallon buckets full. I slowly go through the buckets and add stuff to my online store.
Awsome video thanks for sharing👍👍
Like the little walk down the paths of historic mines/outposts etc.
Have you heard of Project Rio Blanco? I believe it's close by and might be an interesting storyline for this channel.
I’ll have to check it out.
I like your videos. When you come to see the B reactor at Hanford i have a place you can camp at.
You got me interested in uranium mines in Australia! Lowkey do want to get a geiger counter one day and go around these mines but I am a tad scared for my safety haha
Dude, fellow australian here, theres verry little of a risk radiologically here, Your more likely to die from dehydration, car break down, snake bite etc etc etc. way out where the mines are than even get remotely sick from anything hot here.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi good to know fellow Aussie! Only forgot to say all the mines are like ages away from main cities so alotta driving involved 🥲
@p.g6492 it’s fun looking for hot rocks. I find all kinds of cool things when out exploring. But it can be dangerous like the other Aussie said. Spending time out in the desert is really the only way to know how to survive out there.
As a kid I spent lots of time playing and exploring the mines at Captain’s Flat, ACT (near Canberra). A schoolmate’s dad bought the ruins. I became sooo interested in old machinery, gold mining, etc. We were only in 5th grade and we played for entire days unsupervised in the ruins. Not only was there that characteristic mine smell you mentioned (you can’t unsmell it once you get it), but around the mill works there was a curious smell of almonds and marzipan. It smelled so sweet, something you definitely wanted to find and taste. Oh, it was just leaking drums of potassium cyanide! They were marked as such and they use it as a really efficient way to extract gold from lower grade ore. Luckily, I was a bit of a chemistry buff and knew what cyanide was, otherwise they would have found two dead kids. Still, having the run of an intact mine and surface works was a kid’s dream and nurtured a. fascination that remains some 50+ years later.
@TheGreatGastronaut as soon as you described the sweet smell I knew what was coming. Gold mines can be very hazardous if you know nothing about them.
GREAT VIDEO
mean while in Australia ;Authorities in Australia have succeeded, after a six-day search, in locating a dangerously radioactive capsule that fell off a truck last month.
The find, announced on Wednesday, concluded a high-stakes hunt along 870 miles (1,400km) of highway that one official likened to searching for a "needle in the haystack."
The capsule was part of mining equipment - an industral gauge - that was being transported from a desert mine to Perth on January 10. Emergency services were first notified it was missing on January 25, nine days after the truck arrived, the Associated Press (AP) reported.
Though tiny, the capsule emits powerful radiation, the equivalent of receiving 10 x-rays an one hour, with prolonged exposure leading to risks of cancer, the AP reported.
I did a video about this when it happened.
@@RadioactiveDrew ok missed that,cheers mate
That's old news now......yawnnnnnn
Another cool video!
Thanks. Glad you like it.
man this is the kind of history i love. i recently visited an abandoned dig site where it looked like they dug for a week and then just abandoned all the equiment! still so much mystery.
There are a lot of mysteries out at old mining sites.
That was a nice hike indeed!
I don't know what emergency kit you take with you while walking, but a good sat phone could come in handy in such remote areas.
As for the car, a good and well concealed GPS tracker can help to find it back, hopefully it won't get stolen!
No need anymore for a Sat phone or EPIRB. The more recent cal phones (Apple iPhone for sure) have emergency sat com built in. Google it and you’ll se it’s true. Your cel phone IS your EPIRB now. One less piece to haul, one less set of dead batteries when you need it and one less subscription to maintain!
Being on semi flat land it was probably plugged and or bulldozed in. Could try looking at the spread of material like where natural ground was bulldozed to fill the mine. Wouldn't require anything but the entrance being blocked. Could even be under a concrete pad to plug. A rough edge on a pad might be where.
Radical!
Uranium fever has done and got me down!!!
Great video as always! Really makes me wish I lived out there, so many cool historic finds.
I'm curious if any of the many structures in the area ended up at the DOE Ambrosia Lake disposal site during remediation given the proximity. Or how hot the soil in that area is (even just on the side of the road) given how much of the mill tailings were just blown around before it was all sealed up.
I was seeing some hot spots on the roads and I think this was mainly from hauling the ore out on the roads over the years. Also I’m sure the natural geology also contributes to some of those readings. That Ambrosia Lake area is pretty big. It’s all fenced off, so there’s no fun exploring trips to be had.
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There are probably old abandoned cars at all closed mine sites it’s just you spend most of your time in uranium areas that makes it feel special lol
I use to live near there 😅 Great video!
Thanks. Didn’t see much to do in town. But to be fair I wasn’t there for very long.
@RadioactiveDrew
I was born and raised in Grants. Nothing to do at all. Drinking, fighting and f$%#ing. It is always worth taking the extra hour to go to Albuquerque.
Those people who lock up places that don't belong to them suck 😡
I agree. Really puts a damper on learning about the past.
An e-bike would be great those long road hikes seem to be doing.
I don’t mind the hike. It’s nice to take your time and see everything.
7:20 that`s one very angry rock right there
Buy an older car with a distributor , remove the cap, take the rotor with you. The car will be there when you get back to it.
I wish i could go there and grab me a few of those rocks.
Thanks Drew! AWESOME as Usual!! You are so lucky! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching…glad you liked it.
Have you ever been to the Rio Blanco or Rulison sight? Plowshare tests that I've been interested in and am close to. I don't have equipment to measure, but really want to see.
I haven’t been there yet.
Do you ever check any of the radioactive rocks you find for florescence?
I have never seen the ore from Grants flouresce. I was born and raised there and have seen uranium everywhere.
😊 I visited the University of Utah's nuclear reactor, and got a chance to talk to the guys it was fun
That does sound like fun.
Nothing that a 4 1/2 inch battery powered angle grinder can’t solve
Years ago here in Washington state a wood products corporation bought a bunch of timber land surrounding thousands of acres of state owned timber land, they tried to get the state to close the only access road but were denied that request so they went in and posted hundreds of bright orange signs saying No Camping No Campfires No Shooting then they sat back and waited for the idiots to fall for the set up and shoot a bunch of the signs and continue to camp along the creeks where the locals had been doing so for decades, the company took all kinds of pictures of the damaged signs and camp sites then went before the state claiming vandalism was out of control and were then granted permission to lock the gate.
Thousands of acres of state owned prime hunting and fishing land was closed to the public
I hate hearing stories like this. But thanks for sharing.
What will you do with the uranium rocks you picked up. Is it dangerous to handle them or to keep them?
I have some in my collection. Usually I sell what I find on my site uraniumstore.com
What is the shoulder bag you carry? I love it and I'm in the market for a new one. Thx.
Here’s the one I’m currently using. G4Free Tactical Sling... www.amazon.com/dp/B00YM3D1TI?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
People from Montana can be a funny Lott.
Where would you go to buy Geiger counters and other such devices?
intresting video. what CPM on your counter would you be worried about? i cant seem to find a converter for CPM to msv or roentgen, i know htey dont translate over/correlate to cpm so thats probably why. did i see 17kcpm? i imagine that is in the single figures milesievert range? so youd need to see millions of cpm to be worried? as you can probably tell, i have absolutely no idea on this sort of thing
Usually when I’m measuring a point source like some uranium ore or a radioactive antique and I see it get into 200,000+ CPM range then I’m more careful. That’s usually around the 1 mSv/hr range on my Radeye B20.
need a higher frame rate, cos its jittery for me. 60fps would be best. great video though, just discovered your videos, love them! had a binge.
I see the advantages of 60fps but I like the look and feel of 24fps. I’m a film guy so it’s kind of baked in at this point.
You said that you brought some of the uranium back with you. What do you do with it?
I wonder if the abandoned mines under the slab with the marker
Get a cheap set of lock picks and learn how to use them. You will learn very quickly and have fun teaching yourself to pick locks and you can stop hopping fences and drive the rest of the way.
What's the strongest piece you have found? Maybe you made a video on it and I missed it!
Probably those tiles in CA. They were mm per second readings
The strongest thing I have in my collection is that Pyrotechnics F3 radium smoke detector. I also have a couple radium personal markers that are very hot. Strongest thing I’ve found out and about was a piece of uranium ore that is around 350,000 CPM.
I might do a video on the objects I keep in my safe.
I had to look up to see what that smoke detector was@@RadioactiveDrew . Wild! Would love a tour of your collection, would make a cool video.
So speaking of yellow, if the mining company that is reopening Shirley Basin (in situ recovery) has a reopening reception, do you think they will serve lemon cake with chocolate frosting?
If they have a sense of humor they’ll do that.
At what level radiation would is actually start becoming dangerous when dealing with sources?
might be a cold cathode effect taking place around the radiated area. truck joke 😂ikr. any drones aloud in that area. im sure im not the only one that would love some nice geographic shots. ik some places are drone free zones.
i could just google earth it too lol
Is the green coloring an oxide of Uranium or a salt? Can Uranium be found in it's metallic form?
Uranium is never found in its metal form in nature. Its always its oxides in different states giving it different colors.
12:20 when yur hot yur hot, when yur not yur... "decontaminated!"
Sir , I am huge fan of your . Can u please make a detailed video on nuclear bomb developing . How can be made that ? What are the components , detailed processes are made to built bomb . For educational purposes 😜. Please sir
There's already a lot of videos and books out there.
I used to Collect Uranium in the Past but I stopped Collecting Uranium Because my Sister isn't a big fan of Uranium
Radioactive Drew
Awesome Footage of Poison Canyon New Mexico
I thought there was a Uranium Mine Disaster near Gallup NM ???
I believe that was a disaster caused by the EPA messing with some tailings ponds. They ended up flooding a river with a bunch of contaminants. I think it was a gold mine and not a uranium mine…but I could be wrong.
@@RadioactiveDrewnear gallup is a pond that contaminated the Rio Puerco and surrounding areas of Church Rock.
@MrStaybrown yes, that was a tailings pond that the EPA broke open into the river.
@RadioactiveDrew I thought you were referencing the Gold King Mine into the San Juan River. 👌
Hey if you see this and have time to respond. Could you make a video of your EDC (every day carry) on your hunts.
Yeah, I could do that.
Nuclear energy has got a bad rap from ignorance. I think that we need to keep our nuclear powerplants and build new ones.
I totally agree. Nothing beats the energy density you get from nuclear.
Wow that’s a really hot ‼️sample 🤪
So are we not going to talk about the fact that the sky is discolored green whenever you point the camera towwards the mountains?
Whats going on with that?!?!?
It’s the variable neutral density filter that I’m using to control the light. It works by using two polarized lenses. This can make the sky look a little weird.
If the BLM gates and closes an area they always place multiple signs saying they did so. I've spent many, many days and weeks on multiple areas managed by the BLM over many years. I've rarely seen them close an area but like i said,if they do they very much let people know.
18v Portable angle grinder, cut the whole friggin gate off and drag it away.
True but without knowing the whole story of why it’s closed I can’t make that call.
yeah, I worry to about my vehicle, I get so far away a times.
Which Gieger counter do you have?
Thermo Fisher Radeye B20 and the Radiacode 102…in this video.
mmm, spicy desert nuggets :)
Hahaha…oh yeah.
The only complaint I have about your videos is the volume/sound pressure differences when you have that counter screaming it's head off. does your editing software have an auto volume normalization feature?
I kick the levels down on the Geiger counter in my recent videos. I try and mix the sound with head phones to keep an eye on the levels.
@@RadioactiveDrew i think it comes down to sound pressure rather than volume, but it's the primary reason i drop out of your videos, as I have to keep changing volume.