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- Two generations go head to head! ⚔️
Their rivalry was fiery and fierce making the on-track battles between Valentino Rossi and Casey Stoner a truly outstanding spectacle! 🤩
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Rossi, Dani and Stoner in one shot... Those times were unbelievably amazing
Stoner was a beast on that Ducati. Every season he rode it he had won a race, even in 2010 before Rossi took over. Seeing other greats like Rossi, Capirossi, Melandri, Hayden, Checa, Gibernau, Elias who were all GP winners/champs but not able to ride the Ducati the way Stoner did speaks a lot about Stoner's talent and skill. Ducati is still the best straight line weapon in GP, but no one has made it dance and slide and wrestled it like Stoner did.
That's a very good comment. I agree 100%
Capirossi on the Ducati>Hayden on the Repsol Honda
Stoner was so committed it's crazy
They both are great riders, but we all know Ducati IS stoner!
Totally agree. Power goes to the dukes every season. But my god stoner had that thing sliding round corners making it look easy
It was a true privilege to watch Stoner.
He really was something special.
Casey was an absolute monster on that Ducati
Stoner was always quick.
I saw him racing in the UK before and there was just something you could feel from it.
That earlier ducati was pretty good too.
I'm pretty sure Capirossi would have been a title favourite had Gibernau not destroyed him with heavy injuries.
Even Bayliss won on it as a one off wildcard.
The combination of that early Ducati and Stoner was so fast, just a shame Ducati were too ignorant towards rider comments when the bike was getting worse, even when Rossi and Burgess were there
@@nickfruit4579 if Stoner was only fast because of Ducati's amazing engine then why wasnt his teammate anywhere near when he was fighting for victories and podiums?
@@KsCHL1 I don't say that,I saw that Ducati engine help him I'm 2008 to win the championship,Capirossi was so fast in 2006 like Casey,I repeat:Casey was the best MotoGP rider that I have seen,but in 2008 Ducati was much better than Yamaha(in 2008 they have big mechanical problems) or Honda..I respect Casey,really,but in 2008 Ducati was absolutely the best bike.
@@nickfruit4579 yeah, you need the best rider in the best team to win. Casey got both
@@KsCHL1 do u know how suck ducati until 2014?
Two of the best to ever ride a bike in this sport
Marquez plays golf I see
@@aboredperson4202, I said two OF the best, not the two best, Marquez is obviously up there
@@amroge8703 oh my bad sorry.
@@aboredperson4202, no problem man no need to apologise
”Obviously your ambition outweighed your talent”…..I’ll always remember when Casey Stoner said this to Rossi after Jerez 2011. Sad to see Rossi retire but he’ll still be there every week with his team so he’s not gone
To give some context, the 2007 Ducati was a 'straight monster' with tons of other issues tho...
Capirossi arrived 7th in that championship with Casey's bike, while the other Ducatis were even lower in the rankings at the end of the season.
It's not like he dominated thanks to the bike, it was the other way around.
Guess what?? Bridgestone make the different in 2007 and also the best combination B2win Duc and stoner, but Rossi is still the master, he knew the key to beat stoner, 2009 Rossi switch to Bridgestone from Michelin, and he won
@@javaeastern7257 Yeah and when he switched to Ducati... he SUCKED.
Worth mentioning the other Yamaha’s weren’t anywhere either? Only Rossi winning on that bike till 2008 for the first 4 years against all the hondas and dukes, and still beat Lorenzo till he broke his leg in 2010
And Stoner finished behind Rossi in his last year on the Ducati even with Rossi’s leg break that year.
Both exceptional riders getting as much as they could out of their bikes awesome to watch
@@143DREWID
You telling me that Rossi need to do the same out come in 2011 the same thing like stoner..
but you don’t understand, the bike 2007 and the bike 2011 is different, and the tire supply also different, 2007 and Ducati team the only team that used Bridgestone.
@@143DREWID The 2011 and 2012 Ducati bikes sucked and he _still_ managed to humiliate Stoner on the all-powerful Honda of 2012 at a wet French GP with it. ;)
but how many duels he won on the last lap ... unbelievable
I do not know
That was what I loved the best about Vale..so exciting! Never boring
And Marquez has lost most of the last lap duels ahhah. Unless he was much much faster
@@emmanouilgoulidakis7712 when will you realise that Marc being part of that fight with the Ducati was an achievement on itself.
@@jayathranps1319 Which fight do you mean? This year after the injuries? I mean even before. If I remember correctly, Honda is overall the best bike on the grid.
Beautiful rivalry. Would love to see both if these riders on the Gp21 bike from Ducati to see how the modern Era would have gone for them. At the time they both experienced the Ducatis, the bike was the most difficult on the grid to ride in general, let alone quickly. Amazing and over too soon.
"beautiful" isn't a word I'd use to describe it.
It was pretty clear that they didn't like each other at all.
That's what made BT Sport's coverage of the last round so funny - Suzy Perry asking everyone why the loved Vale... including Stoner.
At least he was diplomatic.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 beautiful meaning even though the tension was real, each brought out the most fierce racing from each other. If we had not had this rivalry, much excitement would have been lost and thus made the experience less beautiful. Ty for reply.
"Your ambition overweights your talent."
Great quote. And accurate.
And that`s why Rossi won 9 Championships.
And Stoner only has two championships. So Stoner was talking about himself, clearly.
@@mikep11218 You haven't watched the video, clearly.
Quote from a 2-time champion about a 9-time champion. It sounds so salty 😂
Some Rossi fans are absolutely delusional. Look at all the comments claiming the Ducati was a better bike 😂. Ducati has ONE riders championship.....ONE and it was Casey. The Ducati was fast in a straight line and that's it, other riders said it themselves that they couldn't believe Casey could win on that bike, like Hayden for example.
100% STPbasss………….. the Ducati has always and still does pass all the other bikes on the straights but still no one has been able to win a championship on it apart from Stoner. Look at last years championship because the slowest bike in the championship ended up winning it so it’s hilarious hearing all the “only pass on the straights“ or “straight line speed” comments.
It was because of the bike. It's not because the bike is better but because it was suitable with Casey's riding style. It's not because he was better. If he was, he at least would win more championships. Was he a champion in 125cc? No. Was he a champion in 250cc? No. Did he ever win championship back to back? Nope. He won only 2 out of 6 seasons. So stop treating him like a god lol
@@googleanassundala5912 Oh go cry somewhere because you're wrong 😂.
@@googleanassundala5912 stop treating him like a god ???
Ha ha ha ha, no one was treating anyone like a god.
You’ve got no idea what your talking about.
If what you say is right than both Stoner and Rossi won a world championship on a Honda so their riding styles must be similar in some ways according to your theory yet Rossi went backwards when he was riding the Ducati.
All the other MotoGP riders from the 2007 season all said they don’t know how Stoner won the 2007 championship on the Ducati and I’m pretty sure their comments are a lot more valid than your comments.
Your right, Stoner didn’t win a 125cc or 250cc championship but he wasn’t riding anything that gave him a chance to u line the Ducati so again your comments are irrelevant.
I’m not making Stoner out to be a god at all but if people want to comment with their opinions and interpretations instead of the facts than they’ll always get a reply comment back.
You could put all the top riders ( Rossi, Stoner, Marquez )on the best bikes and it would be close between them all as it has already been proven over the last 2 decades but only one person has stood out and had the skill no one wise had to win consistently and a championship on a bike that was far from being the best and that was Stoner.
*Check out the Ben Spies interview about all the riders he raced in MotoGP, Ben explains it the best !!!
@@googleanassundala5912 Casey literally said that Ducati didn't suite him and that he knew it would be very hard to race on it, but he managed because he is insanely talented, maybe listen what riders say and not believe your fan fiction. Also did you know that if someone says that Stoner is great that doesn't mean that Rossi sucks, you understand that right?
3:31 the legendary overtake of 2009 is born here
🤯🤯🤯
The desmosedici of 2007 was an absolute beast. That straight line speed is not normal
And that's all it had, it was not the best bike at all.
Not normal ??? Ducati’s are still the same now so your saying Ducati’s haven’t been normal for nearly 20 years ??
Ok🤔🤔🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@bicbouy4126 Yup that's why Ducati has only won 1 riders championship. Anyone who thinks the Ducati was the best bike back then doesn't know what they are talking about.
@@stpbasss3773 You just described most Rossi fans with that comment.
Blind moped riding minions.
I feel that Ducati should be investigated because their straight line speed is not normal
These 2 were the Best of their area
JL99> Casey Stoner
@@chamindujanith6337 no, big no, just no.
@@chamindujanith6337 nope
@@Nudel-nc1cp Yes.
@@chamindujanith6337 no :)
These were fun to watch… Casey is a class act
He is an incredible bike rider,hats off to all guys on the track...it takes a lot of hard work and determination to preform at such a high level...thank you
Rossi is a freak of nature! There won't be another rossi !!! Man the sport is going to miss him but I'm sure he still has a lot to offer the sport. Not riding and it's going to be exciting to see what that is so watch out moto GP. Rossi isn't done with the sport I'm sure, and what ever he touches will turn to gold.
You really meant to say Casey Stoner, didn't you?
Goated battles with two goated riders. Miss this MotoGP era 😢❤️.
Dani Pedrosa provileged spectator of most of their duels
Stoner rode like an artist.... Even at high speed... He really wrung the socks out of the Ducati and made it look beautiful to watch... There was something about his riding style that was balletlike... Similar to the way Roger Federer played tennis.... Fantastic rider Casey Stoner... It was an absolute privilege to watch him ride in Motogp.
Two legends 💛❤️
Hands down one of the greatest rivalry’s in sporting history, Stoner was probably the only great rider to beat the Doctor in his prime
But as we all know Valentino was still untouchable even in the latter stages of the 2000s
I miss these good old days
Grazie Valentino 🏍🇮🇹🏍🇮🇹🏍🇲🇽🏍🇮🇹🏍🇮🇹🏍
I wouldn't particularly say Rossi was untouchable. once the fellow aliens came along Rossi was shown to be human. Tbh I think really only Stoner ever dominated the other aliens.
He didnt untouchable, stoner won stats vs rossi, so he definitely beat rossi 2006-2012
@@tghfadillah9917 you’ve got to remember from 2010 onwards Rossi was no longer in his prime so it was easier for the other great riders to beat him
@@aboredperson4202 if he didn’t suffer from all the problems he had then Stoner would have gone on to dominate MotoGP and probably would have only retired a couple of years ago so people like Marquez wouldn’t have stood a chance against him
But still Rossi has everything thrown at him and he always found a way to deal with it
I mean come on between 1997-2010 Rossi finished no lower than 3rd in the world championship
He finished in the top 3 for 13 consecutive years and there are still people that say he struggled I don’t think so
@@StephenLMW you've got to remember stoner was in his second year when he beat PRIME rossi, so prime or not whether you like it or not, stoner beat rossi in stats when they are together in motogp, period haha
In my opinion, the best MotoGP rivalry of all time
Came here after Casey's visit at Tavullia. I am smiling ear to ear.
2:48 so the Ducati was faster on the straights? watch how the special tyres only Rossi had and superior handling of the Yamaha allowed Rossi to ride around Stoner at the end of a long straight.. but Stoner outrode Rossi through the next corners; Stoner was 2007 champion due to skill, not the bike.
special tyres only Rossi had? WTF u overproud Stoner
Delusional comment again from Stoner fan, maybe an Aussie. Special tyre only Rossi had? lol 😂😂
Interesting that the video is edited to show Rossi more positively but the positive comments very much support Stoner who is truly talented.
Most of them are arrogant Aussies who cant accept failures 😂
MotoGP Deutsch TT Assen..it's incredible Rossi's back 👍.
Great race VaLe 👏👏👍
Rossi vs Stoner in Catalan are best combination. But Rossi vs Stoner in Laguna Seca is legendary.
Some people say, He win cause ducati's power. But in fact, only Him can use that bike good and right.
And again, We love the way Rossi handle that all. Rossi gacor!
Two of my favorites. Hopefully Stoner can rid himself of chronic fatigue syndrome..
Always epic battles between these two. In spite of their occasional off track dramas, there was always a deep respect for each other...unlike the grinning chimp, Marquez who thinks everyone is beneath him and thinks nothing of dangerous riding and foul play. Casey and Vale were true champions and role models.
Unforgettable moment👍👏
Notice they didn't show Casey beating rossi in those two races strange that
CS27!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mi fa ridere… gli stessi che l’hanno incu…….to ora gli dedicano un sacco di video ricordo!! Bravi bravi 👏🏻
Great Motions by These Motorcyclists 🔥
The best talent have ever appeared in MotoGp History : Casey Stoner.
Stoner was no where until he got to MotoGP, on the Ducati. Unlike Rossi and Marquez for example, who won championships in all three classes.
Grazie Vale !!! Sei il migliore ! Forza VR46 !
From Hellas !
watched the entire season of 2007, was so frustating looking how beast ducati was nothing can rossi do on long straigt line. but rossi came back on 2008
That's why I believe Rossi is one of a kind. Definitely somebody will beat his championship wins, nonetheless I doubt anyone is going to have as many rivalries as Valentino. I'll probably miss a couple but there's Biaggi, Capirossi, Gibernau, Stoner, Hayden, Melandri, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Alex Barros, Marquez. Apologies for the ones I missed.
Dovizioso and maybe Vinales too? Qatar 2015 and Le Mans 2017 comes to mind. They are bigger rivals than someone like Barros.
@@chamindujanith6337 well I said I would miss a few damn xD
3:18 Nicky (RIP) had amongst the best POV in the history to watch a MotoGP race at that time
dos caballeros ...del deporte!!!
libraron las mejore batallas
Stoner with the straight line speed and Rossi with late breaking. Both utilized the advantage they had to the max
Golden era 💛
What a classic
The straight line speed of that Ducati was ridiculous not fair really lol
We beg to bring Rossi to Indonesia as an ambassador for the Indonesian Mandalika racer. because the most Valentino Rossi fans in the world are Indonesia. we as Indonesian people hope that Valentino Rossi can appear in the international MotoGP competition at the Mandalika circuit in Indonesia.. Rossi is the best Rossi is the fastest
Valentino gave the moto world splendid delight!
🤙
Afraid to comment because any positive Stoner comment is met with heavy backlash from the Rossi diehards lol. But I think the clip at 8:00 says a lot. Rossi takes him out and the track crew swarm to help him up and get him going, they almost walk off before Stoner begs them to push him off as well.
Also, while I understand it is racing, Rossi tends to make room through force, Stoner only ever took what was there. To me that makes what he was able to do so much more impressive.
Wow Goosebumps 🔥❤️
After Sete and Biaggi, Stoner and Lorenzo come. Pedrosa should be on the list of Rossi's rival though not manage to win championship.
Still remember Rossi, Stoner, Jorge, and Pedrosa dominated all podiums.
Dovizioso????
Dovi got 20 podiums from 2010-2012. That's very little isn't it?😁😁
Salamat hanjewu wal,narai kabar tuh
Respect 🦘
Casey is a great rider but to dominate like Rossi did for soo many years is nothing short of miraculous. His mental strength plus ability is something to behold
He is the Legend....
¡Muchas gracias por enviarme estos videos que son excepcionales!
¡Saludos desde México 🇲🇽!
An Other ITALIAN LEGEND VAI ROSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIII Amazing MGP-DRIVER
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥outside craziness
Not gonna lie Rossi should have quitted MotoGP many years ago. Greed himself to reach his 10th trophy and delaying his own retirement. Only to take 0 cups between 2011-2022.
Not completely his fault, though. Bro is an icon of an entire sport, which basically drives MotoGP sales, and Dorna milked the hell out of him.
Always uttering words bigger than his talent. Bragging Australian cs27. His quotes outweighing his talent everytime.
Such intense rivalry
Rest of field was never a match for these two.
I believe that Casey was always the better talent, a fair rider and the best Australian rider ever.
If he had the mentality of a Doohan, only Rossi might be able to challenge him. But, casey was not like that. Rossi never used to give up which is why he is the GOAT.
Casey's intermediate absence and early retirement ment that we lost some (what might have been) great races...
Lorenzo>Stoner
@@chamindujanith6337 Especially in 2015! 😂
Him and Marquez did a number on Rossi which was not fair.
However, I will always admire Lorenzo for his mental strength (at par or better that even Rossi) and doing whatever it took to win.
He created the pressure that eventually lead to Rossi breaking his leg in mugello.
@@dfaf33 Lorenzo was surrounded by Superior Hondas in 2011, 2012 and 2013. And still beat most of them and never finished lower than 2nd. That's how good he was. 2013 was his title but missed out barely even though he missed a race because of injury.
@@chamindujanith6337 Well, In 2010 Yamaha is all dominating and 2011 onwards (as quoted by you) all of a sudden surrounded by Hondas!
Simply put, Rossi left Yamaha and things got shakey.
@@dfaf33 Rossi was in Yamaha in 2013 though🙄🙄
We should appreciate Rossi for improving from 2014 onwards because his level in 2013 wasn't good enough.
Amazing race vale!👍👍👍👍👍
LEGEND
El mejor sin dudas vamos😅😅😅
Sampe meriinding gua liat duel nya di catalunya + suara komentator favorit gua
This video's title should be. "Rossi trying unsuccesssfully to beat Stoner and the super fast Ducati, till that race in Laguna Seca".
Those were the days 👍
Fiat Yamaha didn't have enough power to compete with Ducati in those years. If it wasn't because of skill and talent, Rossi wouldn't even be that close to Stoner.
To me speed doesnt matter the matter is how you able to catch up
Cornering is the important thing whether you notice which is better
@@frankcoguidaben7554 if you just watch the video again, it does matter. Rossi did overtake in corners only to be easily overtaken again in straight lines. If your logic is true then they should just merge moto2, moto3 and motogp since speed doesn't matter.
@@googleanassundala5912 you dont understand the logic here speed is important yes but it its really depends on the cornering that will decide if your good at im not saying speed is not important its really how good are you at a race
@@googleanassundala5912 Do you know why he overtook in the corners in the first place? Cause he had the best bike for corners in the grid, if speed mattered so much this would be a drag race, there are 20 laps in a lap and only 2 to 3 straights max, your comment is the BS of the century.
Casey its the best! Que lindo habría sido verlo batiendose en un duelo con Marc. Los dos con la misma honda!!
Pero se retiró por orden de su mujer 😂😂 que tipo de campeón se retira en su auge por orden de una mujer??
@@felipe0102031 Para empezar, si las razones por las que el afirmó que se retiraba no son ciertas, eso solo lo sabe él. Segundo, cualquiera que sea la razón por la que se retiró no lo hace menos campeón, sus títulos siempre estarán ahí, y mucho menos le quita ser el piloto más talentoso de su generación y uno de los más talentosos de la historia del motociclismo. Puedes cuestionar su falta de ambición, que sin duda es algo que a Valentino y a Marc les sobra, y no digo que eso esté mal en lo absoluto, pero nunca, por más pesado y necio que seas podrás cuestionar ni su talento y sus títulos como campeón y como leyenda de motoGP.
Fans Valle46 from indo 🔥
Ducati has some serious staright line speed
This right here is my childhood
V. R. 46. Bester Biker aller Zeiten. Für mich.
CLASS!!
Salamat hanjewu vallentino rossi,en narai kabar muh wayah jituh
What a hard breaking rossi vs stoner catalan gp 2007
He's the best rival... No doubt
Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa all big rivals retired pretty early. Marquez has issues as well. Only Valentino managed to stay at the top so many years. 17 years between first and last win
He was riding a Yamaha. If Lorenzo didn't move to the most difficult bike on the grid in 19, he would have been champion in 2020 and 21.
@@jayathranps1319 He didn't want to race anymore. Why didn't Rossi retire after the 2 years in Ducati?
You know retirement is a choice right? Retiring doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to compete for 17 years, some people just want to make that bag and go enjoy their lives with their family.
@@Nobody-su9kmIt's a mental thing, not a physical. If you don't want to compete, if you dont have that passion every day, then you simply cannot. It's not to blame anyone for his choices, but nonetheless having the passion to compete for 17 years is remarkable. Of course we don't know how many years each of those riders would last at the top.
That Ducati was damn quick
Casey GOAT
With only 2-time champions 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Валентина Росси Красавчик!!!💪💪💪👊👊👊
I love the doctor as many do. But every once in a while it's nice to see him get his ass handed to him lol🏍️
yup & to be quite honest, the way he acted recklessly while racing (I get it, you want to win & will win at all costs) & the way Rossi fans spat on Stoner, boo’d him, would try to yank him & his wife off the scooter, literally made it all so enjoyable to watch Stoner finally put his foot down & stop “being nice.”
Rossie casey dani hayden are amazing 👍🙏
08:16 marssal :🗣️Rossi dulu rossi
800cc era was one of the best if not the best
2007 season level
Stoner, Rossi
Pedrosa
Rest of the grid
Only 5 motoGP rider can win championship with different bike,
Rossi and Stoner are one of them.
Casey Stoner, the only one man on earth that can beat Marc Marquez. Unfortunately they don’t have a chance ☺️☺️☺️
Dear DORNA, if you are making a documentary on vale please make it free to all. 🙏🙏🙏
love rossi
I used to be an big Fan of Casey Stoner because of him
To me, 2007 proves that Rossi was on another level that year. Even with an underpowered bike suffering from the occasional tyre troubles, he dragged a championship battle out of it all the way until the mid-season, winning a few races even. Obviously 2008 and 2009 were better for him but that's because Casey's bike was also getting worse. 2007 showed they were both on another level, but Rossi especially.
What? Seriously what you said didn't make any sense. Valentino finished behind Pedrosa in 2007. lol.😆😆
@@chamindujanith6337 Learn how to look at the stats. Rossi was still in the title until the halfway point of the season and the only reason he finished *ONE POINT* behind Dani is due to him crashing out at the last race and Dani winning it.
@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva Yes. But at the end of the day Rossi got beaten by Pedrosa in 2007. So how was he on another level? Rossi was also in the title hunt for much of the 2017 season.
@@chamindujanith6337 Cope. It was *one point* and Rossi won four races compared to Dani's two.
@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva My problem is you saying Rossi was on another level in 2007. He clearly wasn't. Stoner dominated that championship. Rossi may have deserved 2nd place more than Pedrosa I agree.
Mnyaksikan rossi vs stoner di GP2007, menyadarkanku betapa ngerinya skill brakingnya VR. Dibalapan sekarang, kita bisa lihat di WSBK Toprak R. Bersama yamaha melawan gempurannya Ducati, dimana yamaha benar² bekerja keras ketika berada di entri corner untuk menghambat pergerakan ducati ketika berada di lurusan nanti.
The only way to compare Rossi and Stoner is when they both rode a Ducati. Ducati -stoner 4yrs, 68 starts,23wins 33% of the time he won,42 podiums,65% he was on the podium, 21 poles 30% he was on pole and 1 world Champioship. Rossi 2 yrs, 27 starts, no wins,3 podiums no poles.On a Ducati Casey was the GOAT by a very very big margin, on the best factory bikes in the world Rossi was the Goat,except when Casey rode a Honda.
That Ducati is a bulldozer strapped to a rocket engine
who can't turn, brake, conserve tyres and so on and on and on and on.
Rossi💖💖💖👍
Stoner was the real rival for Rossi
I would also inculde Dani Pedrosa as Rossi biggest rival.There were 6 bigest rivals for Rossi:Biaggi,Gibernau,Pedrosa,Stoner,Lorenzo and Marquez.
VR46 ❤️❤️❤️❤️ forever and ever 😭😭🙏