Good tip for those who don't know. I have the Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals and I use the Next Level DD wheel stand along with my Fanatec CSW 2.5 wheelbase. I use an elastomer mod with my pedals to replace the springs, and use the calibration software to adjust the brake force to suit my needs.
@@kylerobinson6102 I like them. I initially bought them to replace the T3PA pedals that I got with my T300. When I switched to the CSW 2.5, there was no need for me to switch the CSL Elite or the Clubsport v3. I was an early adopter, having pre-ordered them when they were first announced. I haven't had any issues with them. I race on both pc and console, again with no issues.
Been holding off on these for this exact reason. in fact my situation is a little worse because i have an aftermarket pedal tray for my playseat challenge. Basically it just has a sort of rail that the front leg of the challenge rests on and stops it from moving backwards, but its not physically connected, so tilting is still an issue, even with my regular brake pedal on the CSL pedals. Been trying to come up with a solution, but this works!
Dude I just got my v3’s over this past weekend and I’ve been putting off setting them up but I’m going to get to it today and this is hopefully going to be very helpful
The other thing is mounting the pedals on the Playseat challenge. Because there is no supporting rod on these pedals you'll have to have the throttle and brake somewhat close together to meet the back piece of the Playseat. I'd like to see you do a video on how you set them up. Two and three pedal version.
Very much interested in this as well. No sort of structural plate at the bottom, so wouldn't the brake be just floating? Sounds like it would flex a lot, etc.
Hey Karl, hope you get to read this…As many of us are ordering the CSL DD pro with load cell pedals for ps5 as it just released and is anticipated for major use with the awaited Gran Turismo 7, and for the use of portability, many of us need a foldable rig. Is it possible for you to make a video with the F-GT lite using the load cell pedals and CSL dd and compare the same setup with the Play seat challenge. I’m sure that video will gain a TON of traction towards your channel. my main objective is making sure which rig handles the CSL DD with fanatec load cell pedals better & to see you review them both back to back would great. Even if you can solely review the above with just the FGT lite , showing us which position to have the pedals to reduce seat lift and all of that good stuff, ect. Would be super helpful for us all as you have all the equipment mentioned above. Thanks!
@@KarlGosling Its all good , After some research and watching one of your videos , i will be getting the playseat challenge and doing some rigidity mods to it . Folds up easier as you mentioned and the mods for it are available. BTW do you know why low down shifters website is down no where to place orders ? thanks for the reply!
@@anthonydemola Hey man, I’m in the same exact boat as you and I’m thinking of going with the play seat for the same reasons you mentioned. I was looking to reinforce the play seat but was skeptical until I saw this website.. looks legit but there seems to be some delays.. How long have you been waiting to order?
With my V3 pedals on playseat that whole lifting up thing was annoying and something I just got used to lol now I'll have to get used the higher sensitivity, great video as always Karl!
I have an Playseat Challenge and the t-lcm brakes. Works fine with a couple of simple mods. Pedal tray is done for as the threads on the plastic knobs holding it in place has begun to fail. Almost no flex with the pedals but horrible flex on the wheel plate itself. I need something more sturdy haha.
There are mods for the wheel plate as well. I watched a video the other day of a guy using a DD on the Challenge with no problem. He made his own mods but they look similar to others.
The easiest way to make it stop lifting while braking hard is to put some weights on the piece thats connecting the seat and the pedals, weight plates are great if you have some. I personally just use a sixpack of water bottles
Thanks for the video, I love your Playseat challenge videos. I have one more question. Once I would regulate the maximum force, so the middle of the chair doesn't lift off when braking. What about these 2 red knobs/screws that are holding the regulation of the pedals length from the chair? These are made from plastic and they hold enough for me when using T3PA. But will they do enough to hold the Fanatec Load cell? Or will I need to compensate even more? Or should I ask - What would happen first when putting pressure on the brake pedal, the middle of the chair would lift off or these 2 red screws won't hold enough to withstand the force I would put on the brake pedal? Unfortunately I can't put it near the wall or something, to make it stable. It's just standing in the middle of room sort of.
I’ve pre ordered the CSL dd pro bundle with load cell and was wondering about this so many thanks. I assume the strength set on the pc app would be carried over to work on the PS5 too? Can you do a video showing how to mount them on the play seat challenge please? Then I will be ready for when they turn up in the new year.
I don't have a PS5 mate so I couldn't say. The PSC just uses a big velcro strap (which I don't actually have) so I guess you'll just have to use that mate?
@@KarlGosling I think the velcro strap that comes with the PSC is not elongate enough to secure the Fanatec CLS pedals. So i dont know how to mount them on my PSC when they arrive on March 14 next year (CSL Pro DD)
I have same problem and I have thinking about montage. Strap will not help. There is a big difference in how Pedale is designed. I thinking to try with for montage an wooden plate and than an playseat challenge
@@LadrimSlump Thanks for sharing the video but I think the pedals in the video are the old CSL ones so not sure if the new ones will have the same holes as those to use to fix it with zip ties etc. unfortunately. As mentioned by other’s comments, I am not sure the Velcro strap will be big enough and as the pedals have no end plate at the front I am thinking they will likely shift around - this is my concern at least.
Hi Karl, thanks for the great content as always, super helpful. Was just wondering if you could show how to mount them nicely to the playseat challenge.
Thanks for the video. How would I adjust the required breaking force with these CSL pedals using a PS5 and GT DD Pro instead of using them witha PC? Thanks again. Cheers.
Just got my Playseat challenge 2 days ago and my CSL pedals and load cell kit yesterday, 55% braking force seems to be the highest I can get that’s comfortable for me and also doesn’t lift the chair up
Still on 55%? I'm waiting for my LoadCell upgrade to arrive and looking forward to the best setting and also how did you mount it to your PlaySeat Challenge? Do you use 3 pedal config or 2?
I'm sure there's something mate, just have to bare in mind most people own a PSC to be able to fold it away so whatever we do should not compromise that function.
Hi Carl, love the videos, looking for one advice. Just ordered my GT DD pro to use with my PS Challenge. I’m wondering how to mount the LC pedals as I don’t know if it comes with a reinforcing bar at all? Any help would be great thank you!
Karl hello, don't know if you get this. I've set my g29 for me PS4 with what you set it at and it's all good. Thanks. Could you do a video for wrc10 for PS4. Your settings are bang on and you explain so then I understand alot more. PLEASE
On PS looking to upgrade to Fanatec. I assume I can still connect Fanatec devices to a computer and upgrade firmware, tweak the settings, etc and those changes are applied to be used on a PS?
Is the "Braking Force slider %" the place to lower the weight? E.g.: from 60Kg to 10Kg. By the way, the travel distance is too shorty, not sure if I am missing something. Thank you!
The physical weight will not change but you will not have to press as hard to hit 100% in game. Travel is personal preference but cannot be changed with these pedals.
I think there are some Lime 3d printed extensions that can help you with this issue. Has anyone use it already and can confirm? I'm playing to buy playseat challenge next week and then buying CSL DD, eventually updating to loadcells. Before that I wanted to buy reinforcement bundle from Lime + maybe mod something by myself. Is that even worth it?
Anyone know if we have these controls on Playstation to lower the brake pressure? Either through the steering wheel itself or console? Looking at getting my first sim setup and I'm tempted by the load cell but it could be problematic using when using the playseat without these controls.
I was waiting for this video!!!!!!!!! Thanks! Now we need a video of how to mount it on a playseat challenge
Good tip for those who don't know. I have the Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals and I use the Next Level DD wheel stand along with my Fanatec CSW 2.5 wheelbase. I use an elastomer mod with my pedals to replace the springs, and use the calibration software to adjust the brake force to suit my needs.
How do you like the Thrustmater Load Cells overall? Are they 'worth a buy'?
@@kylerobinson6102 I like them. I initially bought them to replace the T3PA pedals that I got with my T300. When I switched to the CSW 2.5, there was no need for me to switch the CSL Elite or the Clubsport v3. I was an early adopter, having pre-ordered them when they were first announced. I haven't had any issues with them. I race on both pc and console, again with no issues.
Been holding off on these for this exact reason. in fact my situation is a little worse because i have an aftermarket pedal tray for my playseat challenge. Basically it just has a sort of rail that the front leg of the challenge rests on and stops it from moving backwards, but its not physically connected, so tilting is still an issue, even with my regular brake pedal on the CSL pedals. Been trying to come up with a solution, but this works!
You give the best reviews and take away on gear. As basically a new comer I really appreciate that. Cheers from the U.S. of A!
Thanks mate, happy to help!
Karl - you are proof that nice guys do not always finish last.
Thanks Steven! :)
Dude I just got my v3’s over this past weekend and I’ve been putting off setting them up but I’m going to get to it today and this is hopefully going to be very helpful
Karl, you’re the best! You answered the exact question I had after just watching the csl load cell pedal review. Thank Ya sir!!
No problem!
The other thing is mounting the pedals on the Playseat challenge. Because there is no supporting rod on these pedals you'll have to have the throttle and brake somewhat close together to meet the back piece of the Playseat. I'd like to see you do a video on how you set them up. Two and three pedal version.
Maybe I'll have a play around :)
Very much interested in this as well. No sort of structural plate at the bottom, so wouldn't the brake be just floating? Sounds like it would flex a lot, etc.
Hey Karl, hope you get to read this…As many of us are ordering the CSL DD pro with load cell pedals for ps5 as it just released and is anticipated for major use with the awaited Gran Turismo 7, and for the use of portability, many of us need a foldable rig. Is it possible for you to make a video with the F-GT lite using the load cell pedals and CSL dd and compare the same setup with the Play seat challenge. I’m sure that video will gain a TON of traction towards your channel. my main objective is making sure which rig handles the CSL DD with fanatec load cell pedals better & to see you review them both back to back would great. Even if you can solely review the above with just the FGT lite , showing us which position to have the pedals to reduce seat lift and all of that good stuff, ect. Would be super helpful for us all as you have all the equipment mentioned above. Thanks!
Sorry Anthony I do not have a F-GT Lite any more, I only have room for so much stuff so can't keep everything.
@@KarlGosling Its all good , After some research and watching one of your videos , i will be getting the playseat challenge and doing some rigidity mods to it . Folds up easier as you mentioned and the mods for it are available. BTW do you know why low down shifters website is down no where to place orders ? thanks for the reply!
@@anthonydemola Hey man, I’m in the same exact boat as you and I’m thinking of going with the play seat for the same reasons you mentioned. I was looking to reinforce the play seat but was skeptical until I saw this website.. looks legit but there seems to be some delays.. How long have you been waiting to order?
@@legeaonmybluebag I have my Playseat and all mods done to it. It’s perfect and folds up and is able to be stored away instantly
@@anthonydemola Thats awesome, were the mods from lowdownshifter? And did it make a big difference in stability?
With my V3 pedals on playseat that whole lifting up thing was annoying and something I just got used to lol now I'll have to get used the higher sensitivity, great video as always Karl!
Yeah we can get used to anything after long, good to have another option though :)
I have an Playseat Challenge and the t-lcm brakes. Works fine with a couple of simple mods. Pedal tray is done for as the threads on the plastic knobs holding it in place has begun to fail. Almost no flex with the pedals but horrible flex on the wheel plate itself. I need something more sturdy haha.
There are mods for the wheel plate as well. I watched a video the other day of a guy using a DD on the Challenge with no problem. He made his own mods but they look similar to others.
The easiest way to make it stop lifting while braking hard is to put some weights on the piece thats connecting the seat and the pedals, weight plates are great if you have some. I personally just use a sixpack of water bottles
This is stupidly effective! Do you have a load cell brake?
Thanks for the video, I love your Playseat challenge videos. I have one more question. Once I would regulate the maximum force, so the middle of the chair doesn't lift off when braking. What about these 2 red knobs/screws that are holding the regulation of the pedals length from the chair? These are made from plastic and they hold enough for me when using T3PA. But will they do enough to hold the Fanatec Load cell? Or will I need to compensate even more? Or should I ask - What would happen first when putting pressure on the brake pedal, the middle of the chair would lift off or these 2 red screws won't hold enough to withstand the force I would put on the brake pedal? Unfortunately I can't put it near the wall or something, to make it stable. It's just standing in the middle of room sort of.
This is exactly what I'm dealing with now, how to attach to my Playseat Challenge
I’ve pre ordered the CSL dd pro bundle with load cell and was wondering about this so many thanks. I assume the strength set on the pc app would be carried over to work on the PS5 too? Can you do a video showing how to mount them on the play seat challenge please? Then I will be ready for when they turn up in the new year.
I don't have a PS5 mate so I couldn't say.
The PSC just uses a big velcro strap (which I don't actually have) so I guess you'll just have to use that mate?
@@KarlGosling I think the velcro strap that comes with the PSC is not elongate enough to secure the Fanatec CLS pedals. So i dont know how to mount them on my PSC when they arrive on March 14 next year (CSL Pro DD)
I have same problem and I have thinking about montage. Strap will not help. There is a big difference in how Pedale is designed. I thinking to try with for montage an wooden plate and than an playseat challenge
@@mirkopolirko6097 This should help i guess
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@@LadrimSlump Thanks for sharing the video but I think the pedals in the video are the old CSL ones so not sure if the new ones will have the same holes as those to use to fix it with zip ties etc. unfortunately. As mentioned by other’s comments, I am not sure the Velcro strap will be big enough and as the pedals have no end plate at the front I am thinking they will likely shift around - this is my concern at least.
Hi Karl, thanks for the great content as always, super helpful. Was just wondering if you could show how to mount them nicely to the playseat challenge.
More great info. Thanks again Karl!
No worries!
Thanks for the video. How would I adjust the required breaking force with these CSL pedals using a PS5 and GT DD Pro instead of using them witha PC? Thanks again. Cheers.
Just got my Playseat challenge 2 days ago and my CSL pedals and load cell kit yesterday, 55% braking force seems to be the highest I can get that’s comfortable for me and also doesn’t lift the chair up
Sounds good mate, whatever works best for you! :)
Still on 55%? I'm waiting for my LoadCell upgrade to arrive and looking forward to the best setting and also how did you mount it to your PlaySeat Challenge? Do you use 3 pedal config or 2?
@@UniQue1992 no I'm on around 80% now, you kinda grow with it
@@CJ-uh8bk Awesome! So do you use the 2 pedal or 3 pedal config?
@@UniQue1992 2 because it's f1 cars I mainly drive but the third one is in it's box in case I want it
There has to be a way to reinforce the seat to pedal connection to prevent the challenge raising up. Maybe some kind of weighted solution.....🤔
I'm sure there's something mate, just have to bare in mind most people own a PSC to be able to fold it away so whatever we do should not compromise that function.
Hi Carl, love the videos, looking for one advice. Just ordered my GT DD pro to use with my PS Challenge. I’m wondering how to mount the LC pedals as I don’t know if it comes with a reinforcing bar at all? Any help would be great thank you!
Thank you
I just noticed this setting and by default it's 50% I think it would twist my playseat evolution up if I went to 100
lol It sure would!
Karl hello, don't know if you get this. I've set my g29 for me PS4 with what you set it at and it's all good. Thanks.
Could you do a video for wrc10 for PS4.
Your settings are bang on and you explain so then I understand alot more.
PLEASE
As usual mate, Qualify video. Can you adjust the BF like this on a PC, then use it with those settings on PS5?
Thanks! No mate you can't.
Man late to this but such good content!
Hey Karl! do you know how the fanatec csl pedalss without the load cell kit will compare to the pedals that come with the TM T300RS GT Edition?
The Fanatec pedals are still better built and feel smoother in operation, just no load cell as you say mate.
On PS looking to upgrade to Fanatec. I assume I can still connect Fanatec devices to a computer and upgrade firmware, tweak the settings, etc and those changes are applied to be used on a PS?
Any video of them mounted in the challenge? At say 100 vs 50%? And showing the flex?
No mate, this will be personal based on your seating angle.
Is the "Braking Force slider %" the place to lower the weight? E.g.: from 60Kg to 10Kg. By the way, the travel distance is too shorty, not sure if I am missing something. Thank you!
The physical weight will not change but you will not have to press as hard to hit 100% in game.
Travel is personal preference but cannot be changed with these pedals.
@@KarlGosling Thanks very much for the reply and details! Best.
I think there are some Lime 3d printed extensions that can help you with this issue. Has anyone use it already and can confirm? I'm playing to buy playseat challenge next week and then buying CSL DD, eventually updating to loadcells. Before that I wanted to buy reinforcement bundle from Lime + maybe mod something by myself. Is that even worth it?
Is there a way to mount these on a profile rig without the heel plate? Cant find any videos on mounting just the pedals alone.
There's bolt holes in the back half of each pedal so you could just bolt each pedal down individually.
How do you mount them to playseat challenge w load cell?
Strap mate, same as any other pedals.
@@KarlGosling Sorry, can you explain how that works with the middle load cell pedal, isn’t it floating as it has no pedal plate?
@@imjustinb Yeah I would also love to know
Does this adjustment remain when using on console?
What about loadcell on Xbox series X ?
Anyone know if we have these controls on Playstation to lower the brake pressure? Either through the steering wheel itself or console? Looking at getting my first sim setup and I'm tempted by the load cell but it could be problematic using when using the playseat without these controls.
I'm assuming they'll be fine bolted down on a Gt omega art rig tho yeah?
Yes mate.