They were real to me the moment Sanemi used his style. How is he ranked lower than Tengen in strength and can just create “air” able to destroy an entire area??
Also lets not forget the prime moment where the fire from tanjiros sun breathing slows down a demons healing process and gives them the feeling that they were burning
@@firstplayers396 And don't let this distract you from the fact that Texas personally threatened any citizen who loitered on their highways with an AC-130 carpet bombing
Sure, that could be caused by shock-waves that are just likened to the elements for a visual metaphor. But, Tanjiro literally trains with dead-people he's never met in basically the second arc of the series. At that point I'd just let you believe whatever.
And by breathing properly he can... magically enchant his katana with the durability to withstand a full powered swing at a boulder..... And also cut a giant boulder in half with one swing of a little sword.
The show isn't /devoid/ of supernatural things, demons themselves, aside from the transformation process being "purely biological" are supernatural creatures since, for the most part, the blood demon arts are magical powers. Just because the human characters can't create fire out of thin air (which wouldn't be able to block air shockwaves in the first place), doesn't mean they can't do ANY supernatural things. Their speed & strength are supernatural, being born with 8x muscle density is supernatural, the slayer marks are caused by them /somehow/ heating their bodies up to over 200 degrees, and then spreading that heat to their blades.
@@jeff3221 The durability of the katana is quite literally just "oh the sword is made of [insert fictional metal] so its way more durable than ordinary weapons". This is VERY common in fictional settings such as marvel's uru, vibranium, adamantium, etc.
and cutting the boulder in half is again, an example of the supernatural elements of the story. The humans are by no means 'ordinary', however that doesn't mean they can just magically conjure fire & water.
@@Aster_ace That just the breathing technique and total concentration, all the sword does is allow them to kill demons. They'd still have the same feats without the sword just not the sword techniques.
@@Aster_ace the power comes from the sword technique, not the sword. If they used those techniques with regular blades that weren’t made to kill demons, the techniques would still work, it’s just that the weapon wouldn’t actually make purchase as well on a demon than the custom made demon killing swords
@AnimeToonia they hold the energy of the sun, turn different colors to represent their users, and slow down demon regenration and desintigrates their bodies. The swords are fucking magic.
And you CAN NOT tell me that when Zenitsu was flying through the air at mach speed to cut that demon lady's head for at least 10 minutes, there was no lightning used to propel him! He sure as heck wasn't using happy thoughts and pixie dust!
1. Tell me how electric can be a thruster the constant Zenitsu to fly ? 2. It's not really 10 minutes if we throw out all the scenes where the slayers were imagining. 3. Thunder breathing is all about focusing the strength of user's leg. That's why Zenitsu can fly for so long.
@@itwasntoptional5114 yes we can because zenitsu is basically a low budget version with a sword. They both can leap of things at superspeed. So can Kong Kenan aka Super-Man (not Superman).
I'm 100% sure that Tanjiro made a ranged slash attack in the fight with the spider family. He made a blade of water come out of his sword, fly 15-30 feet away and cut down a tree to help Inosuke escape the jacked spider dad. Even if you take away the water effects that's still a ranged attack, it just becomes another basic bitch anime air slash technique. Which would still fly in the face of physics and be a superpower.
But the thing with the tiger or the flying tiger it’s literally rengoku charging at him like right after he uses the flame tiger in the next frame he’s right at the demon so no he did not shoot out of flame tiger projectile
@@RIP-hd8ln Ya reed Baki? If you imagine something hard enough it becomes real. I don't care what the author says, that's a Fing supernatural power right there.
Did you just compare another anime to another anime that have no correlation that are not part of the same universe and don’t have the same author totally makes sense to me
When Rengoku was fighting Akaza, most of Akaza's body was charred also in the zoom out, when the crow is flying away to break the news, you can see a scorch mark on the ground from the fire tornado.
@@sloantempest9421 I👏🏼 finished 👏🏼 the 👏🏼 manga👏🏼 and what trees? The entertainment district was literally destroyed with nothing left but rubble (he literally never landed on one of those buildings once)
@@spiderhey1535 When fighting the Spider Demon, he was leaping off trees. You have no idea how motion works in real life do you? Go watch Omni-Man destroyes an entire planet & the Flash K.O.ing Brainiac. They literally ran/flew & destroyed their surroundings. It is basic science. The faster you move, the move damage you will cause.
Fun fact: the creator only ever said this about water breathing not every single breathing. Its headcanon to assume she was talking abt every other breathing art when some breathing styles like sound breathing and moon breathing being confirmed real
@@vonaxelnuevo2754 For real. Like Insect Breathing creating butterflies that not only Shinobu can see but the DEMONS too? Bruh, breathing arts are real.
Because that's not what was happening Gyokko never stated that he saw any mist only that it was as if Muichiro was covered in it because he was confused by his movements, and no Tanjiro didn't behead Rui with no blade he beheaded him with a broken blade you can clearly see what remains of Tanjiro's sword is roughly if slightly shorter than Rui's is wide he also technically didn't cut Rui's head off either as next episode Rui reveals that he cut his own head of to avoid death.
@ZmeiTheDarkdragon whelp, first off you really can't say he wasn't throwing bombs because he only has one hand, Tengen has shown that he's _really_ good with that one had just look closely at how he's handling his swords during the fight. Second, if you also pay close enough attention, you'll notice that all the explosions occur at the point of impact of Gyutaro's slashes meaning it's possible it's coming from him but not likely. Not all of Gyutaro's slashes seem to explode but all explosions seem to because of Gyutaro's slashes case and point during their epic last clash when the camera is rotating around them the ground that's exploding is first struck by Gyutaro's slashes. Third, Sound Breathing has only ever been depicted as Uzui reading movements as soundwaves and musical scores and never about generating explosions, the bombs are always something he physically carries on him so unlike the other Breathing Styles it kinda impossible to confuse it for being part of the Breathing Technique. There's really only one Breathing Style that's effects can be considered "real" and that's Wind Breathing for obvious reasons other than that all Breathing Styles effects are real and can be explained away by _artistic license_
@@theonewayroad3867 no flame breathing is clearly real as he uses that fire to block akaza in both the manga and the anime also in the beginning and when teen rushed to whim he was holding his swords and causing explosions by swinging we see that’s how tegan initiated the battle by causing a massive explosion also saying not all tegan slashes causes explosions is irrelevant as not all of tanjiros slashes causes fire or water to sprout so also we see by watching is slow motion a explosion and then a slash during their iconic battle hearing is only part of sound breathing just like how senses is part of beast breathing
@ZmeiTheDarkdragon literally not true for one simple reason....how does fire block an blast of compressed air ? He's simply blocked it by spinning the sword, the fire is just visual flair Flame Breathing along with every other Breathing Style does not interact with the environment or Demons like said element should they don't even acknowledge said elements outside of saying that their attacks _are like_ said elements. The explosions are easily explained as the same thing that causes the majority of this debate "animated spectacle", the anime extends the fight scene adding in their own interpretation visual flair to spice it up this case with this fight as well because Gyutaro and Uzui's "last dance" takes place over a whopping 5 pages and on those 5 the explosions only appear once and the majority Tengen's body obscured....
My take is that the projections are there, but they aren't actually the element they appear to be. (Otherwise rengoku would have lit the train on fire) A basic tl:dr of what I just said: the extra damage is force not elemental (dnd refrance)
*exactly!* Sloan Tempest 0 seconds ago The elements aren't there. This can be explained by multiple powers that exist: Expanded Force: The user can exert forces onto other things and people that cover and affect more area of their bodies than the usual force, meaning instead of exerting force on a certain area of that body, more parts, such as a whole torso and the head can be affected with the same strike or push. Pressure Strike: The user can strike from a distance by generating with a wave of pressure/shockwave. Slash Projection: The user can project the slashing effect of bladed weapons as if they were a projectile. Rather than simply creating razor-sharp air currents via movement pressure, this actually acts as an extension of the blade, carrying its sharpness and properties to a range longer than the physical weapon. Cutting Wave: The user can project matter/energy in a way that allows them to cut through matter from a distance. Although this attack does usually slashing damage, some users are able to focus it into single piercing stab like immaterial bullet.
@@sloantempest9421 I said dnd refrance. In dnd force damage is basic magic damage. Like magic missile, or what happens if you get stuck in a wall. Not physical force.
I still don't understand why the creator even said this, you made a world filled with people and demons at super human levels of speed and strength yet you felt it was necessary to say the visuals from the breathing techniques aren't real. I just don't see why you'd ever do such a thing
Originally they said "He isn't summoning water" which doesn't stop a sword from getting so got that it burns your skin or the ability to slow your fall by simply slashing the ground beneath your feet to slow your fall
Because it shows the heroism that without magic and without natural powers humans can still fight back against demons and win. They have ALL the disadvantages yet they're still able to win by sheer training and will.
@@liber5964 Yeah but if thats what she wanted she should've made this clear from the beginning or structured the powers differently. This feels like an afterthought.
@@xtreme808 Trust me, it would've sold much less and be much more strange if there were no elemental animations. We'd see Rengoku using a slash and going "what the f does.that swing have anything to do with a burning universe"
@@liber5964 There's really only a select few pillars in the series, so it's not like 99% of humanity is going to kill Muzan with sheer effort and willpower. Shounen always does that crap and then make some super prodigies that came out of the womb gifted lol. It takes away from the message in my opinion.
I believe (personally) that Sanemi's breathing technique is an exception and that HE specifically is creating slicing wind currents with the strength & speed of his swings.
I take what the creator said with a grain of salt cuz while yes she is the creator and whatever zhe says goes it doesn't explain the crazy things that happened in ds that now sound batshit crazy when ur realize that it isn't "real" in the cannon. So even if it isn't real by the creator it's really to me cuz I don't wanna have an internal conflict over some anime abt teenagers killing demons with the power of asthma inhalers and the elements now being "effects for the viewers"
Due to that fact that real life humans can do, yeah we can cut that some slack. There’s a human who pulled that kind or large black plane that transports soldiers. G Book of World Records 2011 look it up.
Zenitsu. Case closed. The spider demon legit said the air was vibrating around Zenitsu, and Tanjiro heard a sound like a thunderclap. Ain’t no way Zenitsu made that sound by slicing a demon’s head off
Omg do any of you anime fans know science?! Breaking the sound barrier. Frick, Superman can make the air vibrate. Many comic book characters do that in fact. Read up on physics & then say something.
@@sloantempest9421 No normal human can make air vibrate by STANDING STILL. Zenitsu that entire half of the fight made air vibrate by standing still and grabbing his sword and saying three words. The elements are real. The thunderclap is real. Case is closed.
@@yaboigamerdouji7573 manga spoilers also zenitsu is faster than thunder given he dodged real thunder from a demon and speed bltiz em breathing makes you faster and strong but not any real powers like fire
yall forget he’s basically superhuman with a breathing technique that mimics lighting itself no shit the air is vibrating he’s moving sound barrier speeds same with the thunderclap the entire point of the breathing style is to mimic the speed of lightning by using total concentration breathing
@@mrprince6260 The demon that shinobu killed was able to interact with butterflies and giyuu was able to see shinobus butterflies and dodge her attack.
@@xanmenoI argue death of the author occurred when the animators and studio absolutely did not know the effects were supposed to be fake, hence the various examples given by people in the comments. So between that and the fact the author clearly doesn't understand physics as many point out, a lot of tanjiros water attacks don't make sense without real water. Air pressure, no matter the form, would need way more air (volume? Density?) to replicate water.
Okay the slayers clearly have some level of powers. Look at infinity train there are mentions of heat levels rising and that someone moved quick enough to save everyone on the train. That would require some super human skills.
@@RevolutionaryLoser Then don't portray magical tattoos and techniques that spawn elements into existence that physically affect reality and people's senses (i.e. there's no way Muichiro would defeat Gyokko if that mist effect was just artistic). At this point, this argument is just being obnoxious and stupid.
EXACTLY! Renkogu used his flames for mobility, Tanjiro used his water as a physical object multible times and it makes no sense if he hit the spider dude with his sun breathing dragon unless it specifically gave him energy or unless it moved by itself. Also, Zenitsu has used lightning breathing to shoot away a bunch of small spider demons without cutting them, cause the ground around him to break apart, cause the air around him to vibrate, and jump through the air incredibly quickly and also for an extended period of time in the entertainment district.
Its shown literally every cut tanjiro is making against ruis strings is his actual blade, especially the last cut. The hinokami just uses every bit of power with each movement, thats why its the strongest breathing style
@@kadensas3021 I might have to call BS on that, Tanjiro's blade was so short at it got cut and you can visibly see the Hinokami flames slicing through Rui's strings
Yes he somehow sliced off all of their hand, 3 different demons coming out of the ground at 3 different locations with one slash. He used fucking water, its like the creator wanted to make the effects real but then stated otherwise
@@mrprince6260 Which makes it even more unbelievable as even if he wasn't water breathing;swinging a sword with enough force to cut three heads, Underwater takes inhuman levels of strength to pull off.
@@randomonlineuser6401 Ok, but demon slayers do have inhuman strengh tho. Being able to break a giant solid gourd with just breathing, moving faster than the normal eye can track, gyomei swinging giant metal balls like it's made up of paper, tanjiro slicing a literal boulder. I don't get why people think demon slayer characters are just normal humans, it's like saying baki or yujiro are just normal humans. The elements aren't actually real in the same way the giant mantis that baki sparred with isn't actually real, they are simply image based techniques meant to replicate something to such a degree that it actually FEELS real.
Zenitsu: (moves faster at lightning speed with Thunder Breathing) Tanjiro: (slows a demons healing factor with Sun Breathing) Inosuke: (relocates his HECKING ORGANS with Beast Breathing) I recognize the creator made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid ass decision, I’ve elected to ignore it.
The healing factor being slowed is again, just how sun breathing works. Inosuke relocating his organs is just his flexibility. and Zenitsu's speed is just him being fast due to his enhanced speed & strength from breathing
@@gwagwa7260 all of which, cannot be done normally in real life (you'd either get enhancements or go through surgery to be able to do at least A QUARTER of those things)
I have a simple theory for this. It is represented with elemental stuff as fire or water, but what if it's actually just wind pressure produced by their intense swordsmanship. That would explain why they can do stuf like Rangoku blocking attacks with the "fire" he generates or Tanjiro's redirecting arrows with "water" and saving his life from a free fall. So in conclusion: it's just wind pressure with skins reflecting their fighting style. I could be wrong tho, there are things I'm not too convinced about, so feel free to correct me on those.
Or the element is just mimicked effect of the REAL element that only works on demons, not the environment. Like when Rengoku blocked Akaza's air attack, yes AIR ATTACK. If it mimicks the effect of the element, then that would mean: "Fire needs air = Fire survives with air" Now I posted a half theory on a another video, it is a long comment. If you want to read it, just tell me and I will post it here. Another thing when people start implying science into this, (not you, you said you could be wrong😊) I think those people don't think about the author. I'm preaty sure the author wasn't like: " I will put in this manga air friction, shock waves, breaking sound barriers...". SHE IS A MANGA WRITER/ILLUSTRATOR, she dosen't have a PHD in science Also when people explain how the attack is performed, you know "He Is JuSt DaShIng". Those people are pulling that s**t from wiki FANDOM, The author has never said how every individual attack works, she said in that note about the elements "they think they see and feel it" (chapter 151.5 ). And peope say IMAGINING. Imagining and thinking are not the same, she said the think they see it. She also said they FEEL it, people leave that part out. Now if you want to read my theory, just say it. I have some proof there that backs me up. Again for all those, theory is about THE ELEMENTS NOT BEING REAL, IT IS A ENERGY THAT MIMICKS THE EFFECT OF THE REAL ELEMENT. It is based on the authors words.
@@lucianvukusic795 Hmm, that does sound plausible, it's not exactly how I put it in my theory above but it's more or less how I figured in my mind. TBF I never really paid much attention to the elemental stuff in the show in the first place, since the first time I saw Tanjiro doing water breathing techniques all I thought was "hah, rule of cool, nice" I never really thought to myself that he was summoning water or any of the others respective elements, since from my point of view it was more about visual representation of what the technique itself is doing without necessarily being exactly what's happening on the spot. That being said, now that the question was posted I still find it fun to theorise and see what people, such as yourself, come up with to try and explain this stuff, either scientifically or philosophically since both could apply to an extent so I too felt inclined to ponder about what is it they're doing from my personal perspective and inviting others to share their thoughts for the sake of argument and, of course, for fun. And on that same token, sure thing, I'd like to see your theory. ^^ As for me I personally don't have much else to add since my knowledge of this series is currently limited to the anime so I might be missing some stuff, but I'd still like to discuss this kinda stuff.
@@pepenaman This is the theory, I hope you like it. Share to me your thoughts after you read it. At the end of the day, everybody has the right for their own opinion😊 The author also said that they can see them and feel them, they are not real elements. It is like mimicking the effect of the real element, the mimicked effect only works on demons, not humans or the enviroment. That is because the breathing styles were created only for killing demons and helping demon slayers, not killing humans and destroying places. When Tanjiro had that water dragon (Enmu fight) people say " the dragon riped his head of", no it didn't. If you look caerfuly the dragon pushed Tanjiro's blade deeper. If the elements were real, then Tanjiro's dragon would fall because of gravity, fire would burn everyithing.... The mimicked effect of the element serves demon slayers as a booster for their movements and attacks, like mimicked lightning incresing Zenitsu's speed, mimicked water incresing flexibility, mimicked fire dameging demon's bodies and making shields. But the mimicked effect works only on demon's attacks and bodies. I think they can see the mimicked elements because of their fighting spirt and confidence. You will ask me " If it is a mimicked effect of the element, how did Akaza and his clothes not get burned?" He did but his clothes regenerated too. Let me explain. When Tanjiro goes berserk and has blood eyes he uses hinokami to fight Daki he catches her leg and cuts it of with her sock and shoe, she regenerates her leg and clothes/shoe. She is UM 6 and Akaza is UM 3 so he has greater and faster healing factors then Daki. Ofcourse not all demons do this, but most of them do, in the manga and anime. Kokushibo's kimono gets torn to shreds, he had the same thing for 490 years and he was a good swordsmen so he probably didn't get hit that often and didn't see the need to repair it. When people say that Rengoku didn't make a shield of fire and was actually swinging his sword fast like Flash, I think neither is correct. First it is not real fire, it is energy (ki energy/spiritual energy) mimicking the effect of fire, and Akaza's attack was an air attack. That is right AIR. If it is mimicking the effect of real fire then that would mean: Fire needs and cons1umes air. That is probably how he was blocking it. Now if he really did move his sword that fast he would have probably killed Akaza, because no one moves that fast except Giyu when he uses 11th form but has to stay still to keep his calmness. This manga is in my opinion half shonen and half realistic. There are ghost children, transparent world, marks that increase power, movement, flexibility, mimicked effect of the real elements. Yorrichi was born with the mark and was the stongest demon slayer, people referred to him like a spirit, so he was probably some kind of demigod( hafl human, half god), he lived above 25 and was still in his prime at 86. So if he existed and all the other things that I said, we can probably say that some kind of higher force (God) gave him the mark and the ability to mimic the effect of the Sun's fire. It probably made Yorrichi so he can scare/kill Muzan to end his tyranny. It probably made the ability only to mimic the elements and hurt only demons because demons are evil and no one should have the power like Muzan and the power to destroy everything with elements. Now the last two things before I end this essay, due to the Japans belif in many Gods it was prbably Hinokami (fire god) that made this mimicking ability. 2nd thing is Akaza did have burn marks in the anime and the manga. After he put his fist through Rengoku, you can see the side of his face has burn marks, in the anime they are colored and in the manga they are black. Due to the fact that Rengoku used a large amount of mimicked effect of the fire it realy burned Akaza. Both addaptations are correct. When you really burn something in real life (meat, flesh) it is black and burning yourself when you lose a limb can stop 90% of the bleeding. That was why Akaza wasn't bleeding so much. He didn't burn all the way because he is a demon and has high resitances but he is not invincible. He didn't feel pain because the sun only causes him pain. Now this whole essay was based on the authors statement and a little bit of theory. And again: THOSE ARE NOT REAL ELEMENTS, IT IS PROBABLY AN ENERGY THAT MIMICKS THE LOOKS AND EFFECTS OF THE REAL ELEMENTS.
@@lucianvukusic795 Hmm, that's a fairly interesting concept for the series, and it does seem to fit with the theme of Demon Slayers using techniques exclusively for killing demons and demons only. I could also be a way to explain how certain characters seem broken in comparison with other supposedly powerful characters. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it was an informative read. ^^ Now I don't 100% agree with everything stated here, but I also don't think there is a definitive answer unless the author explicitly states so, but even then it's always fun to theorise and discuss so I don't really have much of an objection to that, so thanks again for this exchange, twas a pleasure. 👍
Another thing that backs up your statement is during Rengoku Ninth form after the dust went away and you saw the outcome of the clash you can see burn marks on Akaza face before they heal. If that's not proof the elements aren't real than nothing is.
The steel has the power of the sun. Additionally, masters of breathing styles can put so much power into their swings that the blade heats up which is why they change color. This is explained like 7 different times.
There are elements that are actually real. The ninth form of Rengoku is a particular example of this. But most others aren't. This is an exception to the rule not the norm.
@@RevolutionaryLoser that doesn't explain it at all. If the steel burns because it's hot, then it being sun powered doesn't matter. If it being from the sun matters then it should always burn
Like you gonna tell me that when Tengen used 5th form shit wasn't actually exploding all around him? Yeah I call cap, that and Rengoku blocking the blasts with fire AND Tanjiro turning the arrow with water
Didn't Tengen just use bombs? What? Rengoku's sword swings could've created air pressure because of how fast and hard he swung blocking the blast. The arrows followed the trajectory of his sword.
@@redryujin9395 So you believe that a human was so capable in the series that he could literally go beyond supersonic speed. Even supersonic doesn't cut it, otherwise fighter jets irl would be leaving trails of fire from their wings at full speed. But you don't see that happening. A normal man could produce that much force, stronger and quicker than mach speed, but refuse to believe the fact that he could create fire with his breathing. I mean if you want to accept such far fetched explanations about the topic then them actually producing those elements isn't that far off
@@stealth6375 The problem is the author themself stated that water breathing isn't real water. I'd be fine if it was real as long if it weren't for the author's statement. As for the speed of demon slayer characters. Tanjiro was casually dodging Kyogai's claw marks which were speed of sound. When a slayer becomes a hybrid, their blood demon art enhances their breathing, and the two hybrids seemed to create real elements because of this. That would mean the high tiers in the show are faster than lightning, including Zenitsu who was faster than Kaigaku.
This is how I feel. Ppl say the elements aren’t real but like there’s instances in the show that would suggest they ARE real. Cuz otherwise idk how just some fancy sword swings could do some of the stuff that happens no matter how powerful they are
Sun breathing may be the only “exception” from this since it “burns” demons through the bright red nichirin sword. Its like being sliced with a really hot iron sword Daki felt burning not because the hinokami fires are actually there but because the sword is literally burning her since tanjiro is tapping into his hinokami powers
They explain that the reason the swords burn is because the immense strength of the user gripping the sword heats up the metal. This is achieved bc Breathing gives users a huge increase in strength at the cost of decreasing their lifespan. This is just physics. When the users get their black marks on their skins they've unlocked the most powerful level of Breathing at which point the metal is so hot it burns. This is true of every style, not just Sun breathing.
@@RevolutionaryLoserI argue death of the author occurred when the animators and studio absolutely did not know the effects were supposed to be fake, hence the various examples given by people in the comments. So between that and the fact the author clearly doesn't understand physics as many point out, a lot of tanjiros water attacks don't make sense without real water. Air pressure, no matter the form, would need way more air (volume? Density?) to replicate water.
@@manyharmons4308 I have no idea what example you are talking about. As I said, they say several times they explain that the reason the blades burn is because the immense pressure on the grip of the blade causes the metal to heat which is pretty basic physics, primary school physics actually.
@@RevolutionaryLoseri meant in general all comments and thats an example of the authors level of physics understanding if they think that explains the wind shit tanjiro does i mean rengoku whatever but water and wind are very different things and he uses his "wind pressure" like its pure water which would never work.
@@manyharmons4308 As I said, I have no idea what wind/water pressure you are talking about. Ive seen plenty of people in this comment section who have a baby's understanding of applied physics so you are going to have to elaborate.
The sound of lightning is just the sound any object makes if it travels through air fast enough. He is just moving really fast. It has nothing to do with electricity.
@@waffleten9750 The size of the object is irrelevant. Lightning makes that noise and in that case we're talking about literal molecules of air moving at incredible speed.
For moment's like when tanjiro redirected the arrows or when rengoku block that attack, I think that is the pressure from the swinging of their swords and the air pressure took form of their breathing stances.
@@usmcmanatee2591 It's feels like fire (that's the burning feeling) but it's not actual fire that's burning her but it feels like it. Breathing styles can mimic their element but it isn't real.
The description of the Breathing Style: “ this Breathing Style focuses on channeling strength into the user's legs, and maximizing the output of every single muscle and blood vessel in them”
@@josephwalker9329 If you are physically strong enough you can create enough down force to oppose gravity. This is the exactly same physics that wings in real life use.
@@josephwalker9329 okay, what episode is this. I need to see this because if he isn't levitating & moving in a circle with the camera still, then it can be chocked up in anime being so dang overdramatic they do unexplained shiz. Which isn't unheard of.
They literally explain how it works using the english language. By controlling the breathing they pump their body with extra oxygen allowing them to briefly surpass their bodies' limitations. That's regular science not magic.
@@Horrorcrusher8312 As the author already explained that's just a visual metaphor. That's why water doesn't drown, fire doesn't burn and sunlight doesn't kill demons.
@@Horrorcrusher8312 rengoku's fire never burned anything, tanjiros water never made anything wet, zenitsu never electrocuted anybody, etc, etc. The only exceptions are /demons/ who use breathing techniques because they are using a blood demon art to ACTUALLY manifest the element of their breathing style.
I believe this is just anime logic to what is "real", but in concept, most of these things are anime-only features. There is some unholy logic sometimes but its like Sword styles in OP not being "powers". This is only Breathings tho, actual paranormal things in Demon slayer can be listed: - The Demons themselves - The Demon Blood Arts - The "Slayer Mark" technique - The "Bright Red Nichirin" technique - "See Through World" - The Breathing technique as a whole. Not the styles, but the technique to breath to enchanted your styles, which lets them move at auperspeed, superstrength, etc. They are necessary for the Breathing Styles to work and yet the Author feels like he was lazy to explain it properly, which causes most of the confusion. - ... Ghosts.
Doctor: Uh tanjiro, u realize ur not actually using water right? Tanjiro(head cocked to the side swinging his sword trying to drink the water): Y-yes i am!! I worked too hard for it NOT to be real. Doctor: Um tanjiro? Why are u swinging your body like that? Tanjiro (in a strait jacket in an enclosed room): Because Im thirsty and want a drink!!
Not to mention Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's Thunderclap from a distance twice. Once when they're at the woods with the brother and sister demons, and again Tanjiro hears Thunderclap from outside the Mugen Train
Thank youuuuuu! I’ve been hoping that someone would bring this up because I thought I was the only one. Let’s not forget about god speed, my guy was literally soaring through the air so no one should mention visual representation to me
I still believe that the elements are moreso a representation of the movements, force, and techniques behind there actions rather than actually being there
Expanded Force: The user can exert forces onto other things and people that cover and affect more area of their bodies than the usual force, meaning instead of exerting force on a certain area of that body, more parts, such as a whole torso and the head can be affected with the same strike or push. Pressure Strike: The user can strike from a distance by generating with a wave of pressure/shockwave. Slash Projection: The user can project the slashing effect of bladed weapons as if they were a projectile. Rather than simply creating razor-sharp air currents via movement pressure, this actually acts as an extension of the blade, carrying its sharpness and properties to a range longer than the physical weapon. Cutting Wave: The user can project matter/energy in a way that allows them to cut through matter from a distance. Although this attack does usually slashing damage, some users are able to focus it into single piercing stab like immaterial bullet. All of these can be covered artistically with the elemental affects.
Kinda defeats the point of the elements “not being there” if they’re still using some illogical super power type shit to block it like at that point just say the fire is blocking it. Not some “wind pressure.” Because not only is that in-precise but also isn’t happening from one very slow swing.
The elements aren't there. This can be explained by multiple powers that exist: Expanded Force: The user can exert forces onto other things and people that cover and affect more area of their bodies than the usual force, meaning instead of exerting force on a certain area of that body, more parts, such as a whole torso and the head can be affected with the same strike or push. Pressure Strike: The user can strike from a distance by generating with a wave of pressure/shockwave. Slash Projection: The user can project the slashing effect of bladed weapons as if they were a projectile. Rather than simply creating razor-sharp air currents via movement pressure, this actually acts as an extension of the blade, carrying its sharpness and properties to a range longer than the physical weapon. Cutting Wave: The user can project matter/energy in a way that allows them to cut through matter from a distance. Although this attack does usually slashing damage, some users are able to focus it into single piercing stab like immaterial bullet. All of these can be covered artistically with the elemental affects. As for Rengoku- Enhanced Leap: The user can jump farther than average members of their species. They can leap farther than even the greatest human athlete. Impressive feats include being able to jump over large fences, clear big holes in the ground, jump from building top to building top, and etc. Supernatural Leap: User can jump incredible distances and land safely, covering frighteningly tall heights and long distances. Usually comes with extremely strong and durable legs. In some cases, a jump can fool an observer into believing the person is "Flying", such as with early Superman comics. The distance of how far a user can jump can be across neighborhoods, canyons, cities, or even across a planet. Height will be equivalent to buildings, mountains, the mesosphere and eventually reaching space. Enhanced Speed: (go to superpower wiki, he literally in the main user of the power) Supernatural Speed: Users can move at speeds drastically beyond what is naturally possible over other beings in their universe because their capabilities are pushed far beyond the natural level, making them immensely faster than regular beings (in that verse) as they can travel anywhere from supersonic to hypersonic speed or even lightspeed and infinitely beyond.
this is some high level cope if ive ever seen it. If they're all ready super human, why not give them the ability to harness the elements??? It's so boring if it's trying to take the elements out of the show
Gaining super human strength, speed, senses, etc is completely different from learning to summon FIRE. Real life people have learned ways to push trucks over with their bare hands, & pull large planes (G Would of Records, look it up) so yeah learned to to do that makes more sense than learning to breathe & cut with water. Heck, with peak human strength we can kick a tree in half, with a SINGLE kick.
@@sloantempest9421 or Gotouge just sucks at differentiating normal sword techniques as she admitted. And byproduct failed on making it look like real sword techniques and instead anime bullshit powers
I guess. Because if the elements are there all the time, a lot more damage would be done. Everyone on the train would be dead cuz the whole train was wood
EXACTLY MY POINT AND IT'S NOT EVEN RENGOKU BY HIMSELF THAT THIS IS PROVEN. When Zenitsu was fighting that spider demon he literally killed the demon and hit THE WOODEN HOUSE SO HARD IT SOUNDED LIKE LIGHTNING and Tanjiro actually acknowledges the sound and wonders if it was actual lightning. Same goes for the Mist and Wind Hashira with some of their attacks actually affecting the area around them from a distant and or making the Demon themselves acknowledge the very element is actually real... EXPLAIN THAT SO CALLED CREATOR This is literally the first time you can't take wat the creator of said as Truth with their own work
It's called jumping really hard. Lightning is just the sound of something travelling through air really fast so if you jumped hard enough it would sound like lightning.
Then you have Daki, who didn’t have ptsd from Tanjiro’s Sun breathing fire, but did when Nezuko used her blood art. Sure elements may exist, but even if they do they’re still so fucking inconsistent.
I don’t understand how this is a shock to people. I feel the series makes it clear that these are simply visualizers and the affects they have on other objects are the results of the sword wielder’s enhanced physical ability. The breathing techniques are so important because of how they boost the users natural ability. Sometimes to the point you swing a sword so fast it burns someone.
For all people say We never see a demon getting wet after fighting tanjiro or something get caught on fire becuz of rengoku,electricity around zenitsu is just static from moving to fast its prolly the reason its called thunder breathing
@@Misto8990 Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away? Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon. Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful. Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that? Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me". like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
@@thatrandomguy362 my brother in christ its called thunder breathing becuz it is as loud and quick as a lightning bolt it has nothing to do with spawning lightning yourself,also if zenitsu was truly spawning a lightining bolt why didnt tanjiro see it just hear it? We dont even see tanjiro be lit up by the thunder's light
Yeah although tengen, kaigaku, and kokushibo are the main ones that actually manifest their breathing styles. Kokushibo and kaigaku because they're demons. Tengen because he using actual bombs and explosions. Although I wish all of the effects were real, I mean that scene were tomioka is with tanjiro and nezuko, there were butterfly effects which tomioka noticed before shinobu came in to attack. If the effects aren't actually meant to be visible how would tomioka have known shinobu was coming? Plus if the effects aren't real, how would yoriichi have been able to scar muzan with sun breathing? I mean if it's basically not actual sun effects then muzan should have been able to regenerate from it since its just swordsmanship, along with flame breathing like he said in the video. Unless they spin it with anime/manga logic like "you can see the effects but they just don't effect the environment, just the opponent" sort of direction with it
Even if it was the actual sun, Muzan would've been able to regenerate. I'm pretty sure Muzan didn't regenerate because of the mental impact Yoriichi had on him
its cuz of red nichrin blade thats how they defeated upper moon 1 and how they basically defeated muzan by exerting enough pressure snd grip into your sword you can in turn rapidly heat up the sword however unlike styles it has a actual chemical effect against demons (cuz nichrin is just a sunlight enhanced metal) thus why yourichi was able to scar and heavily damage muzan
@@redryujin9395 The whole point of the end of the manga is that he CAN'T beat the sun. What? The sun being a weakness is an all-demon thing, it's explicitly stated that *SPOILER* . . . Muzan can't die to nichirin blades and must be forced into the sunlight.
@@rashan141 I know, but demons who get partially burned by the sun don't get scars from where they got burned. It's not technically an all demon thing but I know what you mean
Didn't one of the demons once said he heard a thunder boom when zenitsu used his sword technique, I don't buy that it's not real nonsense because there been numerous times were the demons acknowledged the effects.
Yeah from I remember manga spoiler also when Zenitsu used a more powerful version of thunder breathing first form the brother said “the air is vibrating” When Muichiro was fighting upper moon 5 after he got his mark up5 said something like “the mist is too thick I can’t see!”
@@elfumidoreviscaratoroflung You can vibrate the air by just vibrating your body really fast, and the demon said "it's as if...as if this whole placed is enveloped in mist". Key word being "as if", meaning there's actually no mist there and it's just his techniques giving off the same confusion a thick mist would.
@@elfumidoreviscaratoroflung There are plenty of explanations for Zenitsu and the vibrating air (The strength of his leap created a shockwave etc) but idk about Muichiro. I'm gonna assume the mist is either caused by dust kicked up by Muichiro or Muichiro is exhaling so much that clouds of mist are actually being formed. I'll just chalk it up as an inconsistency.
@@elfumidoreviscaratoroflung firstly zenitsu coudlve just been moving rlly fast causing the breaking of the sound barrier and in that exact same scene there is so called lightning around zenitsu but that same demon doesnt acknowledge it
Fr, no way a dude is making a regular sword slash so deep and loud that people halfway across the forest think it's thunder. I understand if it's a few meters away, but they were in a whole other part of the forest with tons of trees between them, and I'm supposed to think that's not real lightning? Okay.
Honestly the only breathing style ( that has special affects and is not used by demon ) I think is really is wind. I may have to reread just in case but at the moment that's what I think.
I can actually excuse most of the actions shown here with air Since we can see how ridiculous some breathings are, you could make a point that rengoku moves are just him using his breathing to move that fast and fire himself Same goes for tanjirou, rather than using actual water to re direct the attacks He's using the wind created from the blade to redirect it But I seriously can't explain rengoukus fire block
Probably just style, and that scene where he blocked probably lasted just 1-3 seconds, i mean akaza was floating So that block just blocked akazas attack not by making a fire wall looking thing, just by normal blocking and the reason why it showed that is because of style and for us to better understand what happend it just showed that fire wall looking thing
I think the fire block could just be he blocked all of them at the same time I don’t know like you know how an anime the block a attack when they send multiple act them in like one swing it might’ve been something like that idk Don’t make sense how he blocked it I’m just trying to make sense of it myself
You can't explain the Fire Block bcus he swung his sword 1 time and he blocked multiple hits from Akaza AFTER he already swung and he kept his arms in the air while the other attacks were coming at him
@@kaimobley5324 breathing is ridiculous,I can get behind doing that since their are far more difficult feats others have did with breathing But like I said couldn't explain the fire block
@@mrprince6260 Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away? Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon. Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful. Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that? Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me". like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
It’s vary confusing cause sometimes demon say stuff like they can’t see it like when daki was confused by the way tanjiro cut her belt and she commented that it was burning and was not Regenerating normally
It's not the flames themselves that cause it. it's the sword itself changing it's color to red while using sun breathing. The red color transfers heat which mimics the sun's shine that's why it halts the demon's regeneration.
@@mysteryman9488 I find that to be incorrect as the blade didn’t turn red in entertainment district against Daki yet still interfered with regeneration
@@notthefbi7015 Anime adaptations can get things wrong too tho. Yorichii's sword is red due to his sun breathing so why would Tanjirou's be any different?
@@mysteryman9488 the red sword is caused by the mark that’s why others can use the red blade without sun breathing. Tanjiro didn’t get the mark till fighting gyutaro
Supposedly, these effects are just the wind or shockwaves with the elemental effects overlapping them, like One Piece but with extra flair. The only time these things are actually real are if blood demon arts are included with the attack.
Absolutely not. There's literally a thunder breathing form called distant thunder, that shoots lightning from the sword. Kaigaku did not invent a new form because he had demon power. The form actually exists and was just corrupted. And don't get me started on Zenitsu's super speed that can surpass a demon who is also using thunder breathing.
Absolutely not. There's literally a thunder breathing form called distant thunder, that shoots lightning from the sword. Kaigaku did not invent a new form because he had demon power. The form actually exists and was just corrupted. Tanjiro's sword burnt the spider demons threads. They weren't cut, they were burned. That fire was very real. Giyuu actually saw the butterflies from Shinobu's attacks. And the demon hit by her slashes also saw the butterflies. The demon slayers could actually see the crescent moons in Kokushibo's slashes. These were actual breathing techniques, not blood demon arts. His demon art just regenerated his sword And don't get me started on Zenitsu's super speed that can surpass a demon who is also using thunder breathing.
@@sloantempest9421 That's not what the maga shows. Distant thunder is a perfect example. The technique is meant to shoot lightning. You can't tell me that it only worked because Kaigaku was a demon. Also, Tanjiro could hear the sound of lightning from Zenitsu moving. Sanemi created an actual tornado and a hurricane. And he is not a demon Those things are very real, otherwise the red blade makes no sense
@@Problemsolver434 the demons that use breathing styles actually summon their elements because of their blood arts. It’s the best of both worlds there. As for the other things, I honestly don’t have a good excuse. The Wiki straight up says that the elements aren’t real, just the wind or shockwaves. I believe they aren’t happening, but if you do, power to ya.
I mean yeah, just let the blades which are already made from a special medal which absorbs sunlight and require unique breathing and movements for each technique cause the elements, like just have water breathing pull from the breath and air to make the water, lightning breathing be from static and pulled into the blade, flame breathing pulling in heat, and so on
Wait they aren't real? I always thought they were real! They even made a whole plot about how Tanjiro's using a water form in his fighting when he should be using a fire form cuz of his family dynasty
@Filip Medak But He literally used water to break his fall and redirect a demon's magic arrows. How TF do u redirect arrows and break your fall with a sword FFS
@@sarmadhabibkhan3036 Hiting the ground so hard with your sword that he breaks your fall, and when the arrows came you just redirected them with his sword. It's still an anime you know they are superhuman.
@@randomguy4157 he swings and as it is about to touch the ground the water effects surround him causing him to hit the ground. Plus since the water isn't real, he either hit the ground with his sword or swung it so hard that it made like some sort of wind blast.
That's the whole point. Demons are nigh immortal killing machines with magic. And the best at killing them are people who can only rely on human, mundane means to fight back
In my headcanon, the reasons why breath users are able to achieve the elemental effects of their respective elemental breathing style to the point we've been deceived into thinking that they've been created via supernatural means (aka magic) is the same way the Pillar Men from JJBA can use their respective elemental attacks via their mastery of their biology as immortal vampires. -Wammu (the Pilar man of the Wind): Can twist & turn his arms to the point where he can create winds from IT capable of tearing apart objects (and or living things) regardless of their sturdiness. -Esidisi (the Pilar Man of Fire & Heat): Can raise his internal body temperature (much like how breath users can do in DS to unlock their marks) to the point that his blood LITERALLY is as hot & scalding as FRICKING LAVA. -Kars (the Pilar man of Light): Is fast AF (as the definition of light itself) and not only that, he has a mode that increases his already insane speed, in which he can turn his retractable blades as chainsaw and not only that the light emanating from the blades are a reflection from light instead of his own product from his biological mastery. Now use the logic of how the Pilar Men's abilities from JJBA works as a base formula for you to solve the mysteries of the Breathing techniques of whether or not their elemental attacks/techniques are created via supernatural means (magic or something idk) or through sheer superhuman prowess (much like Pilar Men's body manipulation).
They literally could have just made breathing styles similar to Hamon from Jojo. Yes it’s a bit copyrightish, but they could have argued for the rights to go with that idea.
@@RevolutionaryLoser Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away? Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon. Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful. Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that? Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me". like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
@@mrprince6260 Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away? Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon. Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful. Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that? Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me". like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
@@thatrandomguy362 None of those things are magic. Breathing is just a way to overload your body with oxygen and gives you two stated benefits: It gives you a boost in strength and it heightens your senses. Water breathing style was designed to be useful in water. Being able to swing a sword in water isn't magic. It is stated in several chapters that the massive force employed during Breathing causes objects to become very hot from the pressure and muscle activity and obviously objects moving through air at great speed make a lot of noise, indistinguishable from thunder sometimes. This isnt magic. It's just basic physics. They literally explain all this several times.
no matter what facts are given to me i will always believe the elements are real like come on Demon slayers are already at superhuman level let just have them there elemental abilties
Yeah when the creator makes the elemental effects have physical evidence that they exist in the world. the whole "It's just in their mind" thing becomes absolute bullshit.
Then why when Giyu “summons” water how come water was no where to be seen after. And don’t get started on Rengoku. Akaza had no burns on him to be seen.
What if its just to show how powerful they are? Sure it would take more than one swing to block something or to save your life. But that could just show how much weaker we are to them.
That’s because the sword style are like this element to regular people like how yourichi looked like a spirte rather then a human while performing his techniques
And especially when demons already exist, like that concept already breaks any logic for it being realistic since you know demons don’t exist, plus every demon has a blood art which is already a power system for the demons so just make the Hashira and demon slayers have there own power system, the way they utilize swordsman ship and elements is already unique so why throw that away by calling it “visual effect” just kinda ruins it to be honest
Nah deadass. These elements were real to me the moment Zenitsu used Sixfold and the AIR WAS VIBRATING
They were real to me the moment Sanemi used his style. How is he ranked lower than Tengen in strength and can just create “air” able to destroy an entire area??
The air vibrating was him sensing a vibe change from him. Rengoku did the same thing but fire doesn't cause air vibrations.
Not to mention that Tanjiro literally says that he heard thunder, and then asked if Zenitsu was awake
@@Nax_uthala Hearing thunder can literally just mean a sonic boom. It just means Zenitsu moved at the speed of sound or faster.
Yeah, anyone moving at inhuman speeds can do that.
Also lets not forget the prime moment where the fire from tanjiros sun breathing slows down a demons healing process and gives them the feeling that they were burning
Yea then I gotta agree at that point just let it be real
It is because sun breathing actually destroys the cells of the demon unlike other breathings
@@doodun3619 The elements being real makes a lot more sense than just by breathing tanjiro harms a demon
@@kettlebop1093 I know, but the elements are not supposed to be real, so it is kinda confusing
@@doodun3619 at this point just let it be real.
don't let this distract you from the fact inouske can rearrange his vital organs at will.
And don't let THIS distract you from the fact that Bungee Gum has the properties of both rubber and gum
@@DWC99484 and don’t let this distract you from the fact that the world is the same stand as star platinum
@@firstplayers396 And don't let this distract you from the fact that Texas personally threatened any citizen who loitered on their highways with an AC-130 carpet bombing
@@firstplayers396 i wanna make a dbz reference but idk how
@@firstplayers396 dont let this distract you from the fact that hakai can destroy any animal, mineral or ghost
Sure, that could be caused by shock-waves that are just likened to the elements for a visual metaphor.
But, Tanjiro literally trains with dead-people he's never met in basically the second arc of the series. At that point I'd just let you believe whatever.
And by breathing properly he can... magically enchant his katana with the durability to withstand a full powered swing at a boulder.....
And also cut a giant boulder in half with one swing of a little sword.
The show isn't /devoid/ of supernatural things, demons themselves, aside from the transformation process being "purely biological" are supernatural creatures since, for the most part, the blood demon arts are magical powers. Just because the human characters can't create fire out of thin air (which wouldn't be able to block air shockwaves in the first place), doesn't mean they can't do ANY supernatural things. Their speed & strength are supernatural, being born with 8x muscle density is supernatural, the slayer marks are caused by them /somehow/ heating their bodies up to over 200 degrees, and then spreading that heat to their blades.
@@jeff3221 The durability of the katana is quite literally just "oh the sword is made of [insert fictional metal] so its way more durable than ordinary weapons". This is VERY common in fictional settings such as marvel's uru, vibranium, adamantium, etc.
and cutting the boulder in half is again, an example of the supernatural elements of the story. The humans are by no means 'ordinary', however that doesn't mean they can just magically conjure fire & water.
@@gwagwa7260 you are really the re-carnation of 🤓
So the breathing techniques can make them superhuman, but we draw the line at the elements stemming from the magic swords being real?
@AnimeToonia they legit breath in a certain way and it let's them move at inhumane speeds
@@Aster_ace That just the breathing technique and total concentration, all the sword does is allow them to kill demons. They'd still have the same feats without the sword just not the sword techniques.
@@headcannon5105 then how do you explain the effects wind breathing has
@@Aster_ace the power comes from the sword technique, not the sword. If they used those techniques with regular blades that weren’t made to kill demons, the techniques would still work, it’s just that the weapon wouldn’t actually make purchase as well on a demon than the custom made demon killing swords
@AnimeToonia they hold the energy of the sun, turn different colors to represent their users, and slow down demon regenration and desintigrates their bodies.
The swords are fucking magic.
And you CAN NOT tell me that when Zenitsu was flying through the air at mach speed to cut that demon lady's head for at least 10 minutes, there was no lightning used to propel him! He sure as heck wasn't using happy thoughts and pixie dust!
1. Tell me how electric can be a thruster the constant Zenitsu to fly ?
2. It's not really 10 minutes if we throw out all the scenes where the slayers were imagining.
3. Thunder breathing is all about focusing the strength of user's leg. That's why Zenitsu can fly for so long.
Google "Jumping" 😂😂😂
The Flash can do the same thing & he’s not flying. He’s jumping with superhuman momentum generated from superhuman speed.
@@sloantempest9421 I know we’re not about to start comparing the flash to demon slayer
@@itwasntoptional5114 yes we can because zenitsu is basically a low budget version with a sword. They both can leap of things at superspeed. So can Kong Kenan aka Super-Man (not Superman).
I'm 100% sure that Tanjiro made a ranged slash attack in the fight with the spider family. He made a blade of water come out of his sword, fly 15-30 feet away and cut down a tree to help Inosuke escape the jacked spider dad. Even if you take away the water effects that's still a ranged attack, it just becomes another basic bitch anime air slash technique. Which would still fly in the face of physics and be a superpower.
I still remember a scene from the mugan train movie where rengoku used a move that sent a TIGER MADE OUT OF FIRE to attack akaza
@@boundinggem932 I heard manga spoilers that Zenitsu's gonna do something similar with a lightning dragon.
But the thing with the tiger or the flying tiger it’s literally rengoku charging at him like right after he uses the flame tiger in the next frame he’s right at the demon so no he did not shoot out of flame tiger projectile
@@RIP-hd8ln Ya reed Baki? If you imagine something hard enough it becomes real. I don't care what the author says, that's a Fing supernatural power right there.
Did you just compare another anime to another anime that have no correlation that are not part of the same universe and don’t have the same author totally makes sense to me
When Rengoku was fighting Akaza, most of Akaza's body was charred also in the zoom out, when the crow is flying away to break the news, you can see a scorch mark on the ground from the fire tornado.
1. Because God forbid that air friction creates heat....
2. Was that burn mark on the field in the Manga?
@@TheGloryXros Hard to tell if it was in the manga honestly. It’s not colored on that panel I don’t think
@@TheGloryXros thank you!
air friction: am I a joke to you
Why are people actively advocating for the affects to be fake. Like yall are boring as shit
Creator:The elements aren't real
Zenitsu: *using godlike speed and LITERALLY FLYING IN THE DAMN AIR*
That example is kinda bad since zenitsu trained the first form to be really powerful and he is one of the fastest characters.
@@TheeGreenApple ok. Dude was still flyin.
👏🏾he 👏🏾is 👏🏾jumping 👏🏾off 👏🏾trees 👏🏾with immense speed. You anime fans need to read about physics cuz it is scary how you don’t know these things.
@@sloantempest9421 I👏🏼 finished 👏🏼 the 👏🏼 manga👏🏼 and what trees? The entertainment district was literally destroyed with nothing left but rubble (he literally never landed on one of those buildings once)
@@spiderhey1535 When fighting the Spider Demon, he was leaping off trees.
You have no idea how motion works in real life do you? Go watch Omni-Man destroyes an entire planet & the Flash K.O.ing Brainiac. They literally ran/flew & destroyed their surroundings. It is basic science. The faster you move, the move damage you will cause.
Fun fact: the creator only ever said this about water breathing not every single breathing. Its headcanon to assume she was talking abt every other breathing art when some breathing styles like sound breathing and moon breathing being confirmed real
Except even if we assume it’s just water it’s still wrong given 2 of the examples in the video prove otherwise
@@palaupale7782 What are the two examples?
@@thecompiler3769 Waterfall Basin breaking Tanjiros fall and using water wheel to redirect Yahabas arrows
Serpent, Sun breathing, and Insect are real too.
@@vonaxelnuevo2754 For real. Like Insect Breathing creating butterflies that not only Shinobu can see but the DEMONS too? Bruh, breathing arts are real.
The demons themselves even addressed the elements. Last episode gyokko was seeing mist.
Tanjiro even beheaded rui with no blade.
Because that's not what was happening Gyokko never stated that he saw any mist only that it was as if Muichiro was covered in it because he was confused by his movements, and no Tanjiro didn't behead Rui with no blade he beheaded him with a broken blade you can clearly see what remains of Tanjiro's sword is roughly if slightly shorter than Rui's is wide he also technically didn't cut Rui's head off either as next episode Rui reveals that he cut his own head of to avoid death.
@@theonewayroad3867ok but what about Teagan blowing stuff up during his battle he only had one hand so he wasn’t throwing bombs mid fight
@ZmeiTheDarkdragon whelp, first off you really can't say he wasn't throwing bombs because he only has one hand, Tengen has shown that he's _really_ good with that one had just look closely at how he's handling his swords during the fight.
Second, if you also pay close enough attention, you'll notice that all the explosions occur at the point of impact of Gyutaro's slashes meaning it's possible it's coming from him but not likely. Not all of Gyutaro's slashes seem to explode but all explosions seem to because of Gyutaro's slashes case and point during their epic last clash when the camera is rotating around them the ground that's exploding is first struck by Gyutaro's slashes.
Third, Sound Breathing has only ever been depicted as Uzui reading movements as soundwaves and musical scores and never about generating explosions, the bombs are always something he physically carries on him so unlike the other Breathing Styles it kinda impossible to confuse it for being part of the Breathing Technique.
There's really only one Breathing Style that's effects can be considered "real" and that's Wind Breathing for obvious reasons other than that all Breathing Styles effects are real and can be explained away by _artistic license_
@@theonewayroad3867 no flame breathing is clearly real as he uses that fire to block akaza in both the manga and the anime also in the beginning and when teen rushed to whim he was holding his swords and causing explosions by swinging we see that’s how tegan initiated the battle by causing a massive explosion also saying not all tegan slashes causes explosions is irrelevant as not all of tanjiros slashes causes fire or water to sprout so also we see by watching is slow motion a explosion and then a slash during their iconic battle hearing is only part of sound breathing just like how senses is part of beast breathing
@ZmeiTheDarkdragon literally not true for one simple reason....how does fire block an blast of compressed air ? He's simply blocked it by spinning the sword, the fire is just visual flair Flame Breathing along with every other Breathing Style does not interact with the environment or Demons like said element should they don't even acknowledge said elements outside of saying that their attacks _are like_ said elements.
The explosions are easily explained as the same thing that causes the majority of this debate "animated spectacle", the anime extends the fight scene adding in their own interpretation visual flair to spice it up this case with this fight as well because Gyutaro and Uzui's "last dance" takes place over a whopping 5 pages and on those 5 the explosions only appear once and the majority Tengen's body obscured....
My take is that the projections are there, but they aren't actually the element they appear to be. (Otherwise rengoku would have lit the train on fire) A basic tl:dr of what I just said: the extra damage is force not elemental (dnd refrance)
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The elements aren't there. This can be explained by multiple powers that exist:
Expanded Force: The user can exert forces onto other things and people that cover and affect more area of their bodies than the usual force, meaning instead of exerting force on a certain area of that body, more parts, such as a whole torso and the head can be affected with the same strike or push.
Pressure Strike: The user can strike from a distance by generating with a wave of pressure/shockwave.
Slash Projection: The user can project the slashing effect of bladed weapons as if they were a projectile. Rather than simply creating razor-sharp air currents via movement pressure, this actually acts as an extension of the blade, carrying its sharpness and properties to a range longer than the physical weapon.
Cutting Wave: The user can project matter/energy in a way that allows them to cut through matter from a distance. Although this attack does usually slashing damage, some users are able to focus it into single piercing stab like immaterial bullet.
@@sloantempest9421 Why did you say exactly, and then say something against my argument?
No I was just backing up your whole statement on force
@@sloantempest9421 I said dnd refrance. In dnd force damage is basic magic damage. Like magic missile, or what happens if you get stuck in a wall. Not physical force.
@@ASMroleplay737 oh
I still don't understand why the creator even said this, you made a world filled with people and demons at super human levels of speed and strength yet you felt it was necessary to say the visuals from the breathing techniques aren't real. I just don't see why you'd ever do such a thing
Originally they said "He isn't summoning water" which doesn't stop a sword from getting so got that it burns your skin or the ability to slow your fall by simply slashing the ground beneath your feet to slow your fall
Because it shows the heroism that without magic and without natural powers humans can still fight back against demons and win. They have ALL the disadvantages yet they're still able to win by sheer training and will.
@@liber5964 Yeah but if thats what she wanted she should've made this clear from the beginning or structured the powers differently. This feels like an afterthought.
@@xtreme808 Trust me, it would've sold much less and be much more strange if there were no elemental animations. We'd see Rengoku using a slash and going "what the f does.that swing have anything to do with a burning universe"
@@liber5964 There's really only a select few pillars in the series, so it's not like 99% of humanity is going to kill Muzan with sheer effort and willpower. Shounen always does that crap and then make some super prodigies that came out of the womb gifted lol. It takes away from the message in my opinion.
Later on in the manga, Sanemi throws a fucking hurricane, no say that aint real
Going off of your comment sanemi dust whirlwind cutter DESTROYED THE GROUND AND SOMW PILLARS
People say the forms create shockwaves for anything that isn't the sword. If that was true then Wind Breathing would still be real, lol.
I believe (personally) that Sanemi's breathing technique is an exception and that HE specifically is creating slicing wind currents with the strength & speed of his swings.
Sanemi bending the air with a thin, sharp blade. How's that's even possible
I take what the creator said with a grain of salt cuz while yes she is the creator and whatever zhe says goes it doesn't explain the crazy things that happened in ds that now sound batshit crazy when ur realize that it isn't "real" in the cannon.
So even if it isn't real by the creator it's really to me cuz I don't wanna have an internal conflict over some anime abt teenagers killing demons with the power of asthma inhalers and the elements now being "effects for the viewers"
Bro said fuck the creator I'll make my headcanon true because fuck the opinion of the person who made the manga that I made a headcanon of.
True, just let it be real. Because it already is to most of us.
That don't make it right.
@@sloantempest9421 neither do the inhuman feats these normal humans do
Due to that fact that real life humans can do, yeah we can cut that some slack. There’s a human who pulled that kind or large black plane that transports soldiers. G Book of World Records 2011 look it up.
@@sloantempest9421 Then we can cut making it real in our heads some slack too.
@@sloantempest9421 what human can make air vibrate around them
Zenitsu. Case closed. The spider demon legit said the air was vibrating around Zenitsu, and Tanjiro heard a sound like a thunderclap. Ain’t no way Zenitsu made that sound by slicing a demon’s head off
Omg do any of you anime fans know science?! Breaking the sound barrier. Frick, Superman can make the air vibrate. Many comic book characters do that in fact. Read up on physics & then say something.
@@sloantempest9421 Superman is an alien with powers. Zenitsu is a normal human. There’s no comparison between those 2 at all.
@@sloantempest9421 No normal human can make air vibrate by STANDING STILL. Zenitsu that entire half of the fight made air vibrate by standing still and grabbing his sword and saying three words. The elements are real. The thunderclap is real. Case is closed.
@@yaboigamerdouji7573 manga spoilers
also zenitsu is faster than thunder given he dodged real thunder from a demon and speed bltiz em breathing makes you faster and strong but not any real powers like fire
yall forget he’s basically superhuman with a breathing technique that mimics lighting itself no shit the air is vibrating he’s moving sound barrier speeds same with the thunderclap the entire point of the breathing style is to mimic the speed of lightning by using total concentration breathing
Let’s not forget that in season one WATER DROPLETS HIT A DEMON’S FACE from Tanjiro’s water breathing
anime adaption did that
She said it felt like it was there it was never there the anime's art style is portraying how she felt
@@mrprince6260 The demon that shinobu killed was able to interact with butterflies and giyuu was able to see shinobus butterflies and dodge her attack.
@@devanplays3509 he never saw them he just reacted to her attack
@@xanmenoI argue death of the author occurred when the animators and studio absolutely did not know the effects were supposed to be fake, hence the various examples given by people in the comments. So between that and the fact the author clearly doesn't understand physics as many point out, a lot of tanjiros water attacks don't make sense without real water. Air pressure, no matter the form, would need way more air (volume? Density?) to replicate water.
Okay the slayers clearly have some level of powers. Look at infinity train there are mentions of heat levels rising and that someone moved quick enough to save everyone on the train. That would require some super human skills.
Breathing styles are literally explained several times. Yes, they give you super strength and senses but you can't use magic.
@@RevolutionaryLoser
Then don't portray magical tattoos and techniques that spawn elements into existence that physically affect reality and people's senses (i.e. there's no way Muichiro would defeat Gyokko if that mist effect was just artistic).
At this point, this argument is just being obnoxious and stupid.
EXACTLY! Renkogu used his flames for mobility, Tanjiro used his water as a physical object multible times and it makes no sense if he hit the spider dude with his sun breathing dragon unless it specifically gave him energy or unless it moved by itself. Also, Zenitsu has used lightning breathing to shoot away a bunch of small spider demons without cutting them, cause the ground around him to break apart, cause the air around him to vibrate, and jump through the air incredibly quickly and also for an extended period of time in the entertainment district.
Its shown literally every cut tanjiro is making against ruis strings is his actual blade, especially the last cut. The hinokami just uses every bit of power with each movement, thats why its the strongest breathing style
@@kadensas3021 I might have to call BS on that, Tanjiro's blade was so short at it got cut and you can visibly see the Hinokami flames slicing through Rui's strings
“Don’t supply me with the cap” 🤣
Isn't there a scene where against the demon with two clones that open a swamp realm tanjiro literally swings down to hit all three or two with water?
Yes he somehow sliced off all of their hand, 3 different demons coming out of the ground at 3 different locations with one slash. He used fucking water, its like the creator wanted to make the effects real but then stated otherwise
He does that while he's under water
@@mrprince6260 Which makes it even more unbelievable as even if he wasn't water breathing;swinging a sword with enough force to cut three heads, Underwater takes inhuman levels of strength to pull off.
@@randomonlineuser6401 well demon slayers are superhuman so
@@randomonlineuser6401 Ok, but demon slayers do have inhuman strengh tho. Being able to break a giant solid gourd with just breathing, moving faster than the normal eye can track, gyomei swinging giant metal balls like it's made up of paper, tanjiro slicing a literal boulder. I don't get why people think demon slayer characters are just normal humans, it's like saying baki or yujiro are just normal humans. The elements aren't actually real in the same way the giant mantis that baki sparred with isn't actually real, they are simply image based techniques meant to replicate something to such a degree that it actually FEELS real.
Zenitsu: (moves faster at lightning speed with Thunder Breathing)
Tanjiro: (slows a demons healing factor with Sun Breathing)
Inosuke: (relocates his HECKING ORGANS with Beast Breathing)
I recognize the creator made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid ass decision, I’ve elected to ignore it.
The Inosuke thing wasn't beast breathing, he's just really flexible
The healing factor being slowed is again, just how sun breathing works. Inosuke relocating his organs is just his flexibility. and Zenitsu's speed is just him being fast due to his enhanced speed & strength from breathing
@@gwagwa7260 all of which, cannot be done normally in real life (you'd either get enhancements or go through surgery to be able to do at least A QUARTER of those things)
I have a simple theory for this.
It is represented with elemental stuff as fire or water, but what if it's actually just wind pressure produced by their intense swordsmanship.
That would explain why they can do stuf like Rangoku blocking attacks with the "fire" he generates or Tanjiro's redirecting arrows with "water" and saving his life from a free fall.
So in conclusion: it's just wind pressure with skins reflecting their fighting style.
I could be wrong tho, there are things I'm not too convinced about, so feel free to correct me on those.
Yeah that's my guess too.
Or the element is just mimicked effect of the REAL element that only works on demons, not the environment. Like when Rengoku blocked Akaza's air attack, yes AIR ATTACK. If it mimicks the effect of the element, then that would mean: "Fire needs air = Fire survives with air"
Now I posted a half theory on a another video, it is a long comment. If you want to read it, just tell me and I will post it here. Another thing when people start implying science into this, (not you, you said you could be wrong😊) I think those people don't think about the author. I'm preaty sure the author wasn't like: " I will put in this manga air friction, shock waves, breaking sound barriers...". SHE IS A MANGA WRITER/ILLUSTRATOR, she dosen't have a PHD in science
Also when people explain how the attack is performed, you know "He Is JuSt DaShIng". Those people are pulling that s**t from wiki FANDOM, The author has never said how every individual attack works, she said in that note about the elements "they think they see and feel it" (chapter 151.5 ). And peope say IMAGINING. Imagining and thinking are not the same, she said the think they see it. She also said they FEEL it, people leave that part out.
Now if you want to read my theory, just say it. I have some proof there that backs me up.
Again for all those, theory is about THE ELEMENTS NOT BEING REAL, IT IS A ENERGY THAT MIMICKS THE EFFECT OF THE REAL ELEMENT. It is based on the authors words.
@@lucianvukusic795 Hmm, that does sound plausible, it's not exactly how I put it in my theory above but it's more or less how I figured in my mind.
TBF I never really paid much attention to the elemental stuff in the show in the first place, since the first time I saw Tanjiro doing water breathing techniques all I thought was "hah, rule of cool, nice" I never really thought to myself that he was summoning water or any of the others respective elements, since from my point of view it was more about visual representation of what the technique itself is doing without necessarily being exactly what's happening on the spot.
That being said, now that the question was posted I still find it fun to theorise and see what people, such as yourself, come up with to try and explain this stuff, either scientifically or philosophically since both could apply to an extent so I too felt inclined to ponder about what is it they're doing from my personal perspective and inviting others to share their thoughts for the sake of argument and, of course, for fun.
And on that same token, sure thing, I'd like to see your theory. ^^
As for me I personally don't have much else to add since my knowledge of this series is currently limited to the anime so I might be missing some stuff, but I'd still like to discuss this kinda stuff.
@@pepenaman
This is the theory, I hope you like it. Share to me your thoughts after you read it.
At the end of the day, everybody has the right for their own opinion😊
The author also said that they can see them and feel them, they are not real elements. It is like mimicking the effect of the real element, the mimicked effect only works on demons, not humans or the enviroment. That is because the breathing styles were created only for killing demons and helping demon slayers, not killing humans and destroying places. When Tanjiro had that water dragon (Enmu fight) people say " the dragon riped his head of", no it didn't. If you look caerfuly the dragon pushed Tanjiro's blade deeper. If the elements were real, then Tanjiro's dragon would fall because of gravity, fire would burn everyithing.... The mimicked effect of the element serves demon slayers as a booster for their movements and attacks, like mimicked lightning incresing Zenitsu's speed, mimicked water incresing flexibility, mimicked fire dameging demon's bodies and making shields. But the mimicked effect works only on demon's attacks and bodies. I think they can see the mimicked elements because of their fighting spirt and confidence. You will ask me " If it is a mimicked effect of the element, how did Akaza and his clothes not get burned?" He did but his clothes regenerated too. Let me explain. When Tanjiro goes berserk and has blood eyes he uses hinokami to fight Daki he catches her leg and cuts it of with her sock and shoe, she regenerates her leg and clothes/shoe. She is UM 6 and Akaza is UM 3 so he has greater and faster healing factors then Daki. Ofcourse not all demons do this, but most of them do, in the manga and anime. Kokushibo's kimono gets torn to shreds, he had the same thing for 490 years and he was a good swordsmen so he probably didn't get hit that often and didn't see the need to repair it. When people say that Rengoku didn't make a shield of fire and was actually swinging his sword fast like Flash, I think neither is correct. First it is not real fire, it is energy (ki energy/spiritual energy) mimicking the effect of fire, and Akaza's attack was an air attack. That is right AIR. If it is mimicking the effect of real fire then that would mean: Fire needs and cons1umes air. That is probably how he was blocking it. Now if he really did move his sword that fast he would have probably killed Akaza, because no one moves that fast except Giyu when he uses 11th form but has to stay still to keep his calmness. This manga is in my opinion half shonen and half realistic. There are ghost children, transparent world, marks that increase power, movement, flexibility, mimicked effect of the real elements. Yorrichi was born with the mark and was the stongest demon slayer, people referred to him like a spirit, so he was probably some kind of demigod( hafl human, half god), he lived above 25 and was still in his prime at 86. So if he existed and all the other things that I said, we can probably say that some kind of higher force (God) gave him the mark and the ability to mimic the effect of the Sun's fire. It probably made Yorrichi so he can scare/kill Muzan to end his tyranny. It probably made the ability only to mimic the elements and hurt only demons because demons are evil and no one should have the power like Muzan and the power to destroy everything with elements. Now the last two things before I end this essay, due to the Japans belif in many Gods it was prbably Hinokami (fire god) that made this mimicking ability. 2nd thing is Akaza did have burn marks in the anime and the manga. After he put his fist through Rengoku, you can see the side of his face has burn marks, in the anime they are colored and in the manga they are black. Due to the fact that Rengoku used a large amount of mimicked effect of the fire it realy burned Akaza. Both addaptations are correct. When you really burn something in real life (meat, flesh) it is black and burning yourself when you lose a limb can stop 90% of the bleeding. That was why Akaza wasn't bleeding so much. He didn't burn all the way because he is a demon and has high resitances but he is not invincible. He didn't feel pain because the sun only causes him pain.
Now this whole essay was based on the authors statement and a little bit of theory. And again: THOSE ARE NOT REAL ELEMENTS, IT IS PROBABLY AN ENERGY THAT MIMICKS THE LOOKS AND EFFECTS OF THE REAL ELEMENTS.
@@lucianvukusic795
Hmm, that's a fairly interesting concept for the series, and it does seem to fit with the theme of Demon Slayers using techniques exclusively for killing demons and demons only. I could also be a way to explain how certain characters seem broken in comparison with other supposedly powerful characters.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it was an informative read. ^^
Now I don't 100% agree with everything stated here, but I also don't think there is a definitive answer unless the author explicitly states so, but even then it's always fun to theorise and discuss so I don't really have much of an objection to that, so thanks again for this exchange, twas a pleasure. 👍
My favorite part of the rengoku vs akaza fight is when rengoku says "it's breathin time" and proceeds to use a fire breathing technique on akaza
Sir it's flame breathing not fire breathing
I'm not even 5 episodes in, and I'm already questioning where stylistic swordplay ends and actual hecking magic begins.
Exactly
They got that Baki levels of Imagination 😂
Another thing that backs up your statement is during Rengoku Ninth form after the dust went away and you saw the outcome of the clash you can see burn marks on Akaza face before they heal. If that's not proof the elements aren't real than nothing is.
The steel has the power of the sun. Additionally, masters of breathing styles can put so much power into their swings that the blade heats up which is why they change color. This is explained like 7 different times.
@@RevolutionaryLoser demons get hit by the swords plenty of times without burning.
@@LP-tf7cy Dog, can you read? I literally just explained why it burns sometimes and sometimes not.
There are elements that are actually real. The ninth form of Rengoku is a particular example of this. But most others aren't. This is an exception to the rule not the norm.
@@RevolutionaryLoser that doesn't explain it at all. If the steel burns because it's hot, then it being sun powered doesn't matter. If it being from the sun matters then it should always burn
Like you gonna tell me that when Tengen used 5th form shit wasn't actually exploding all around him? Yeah I call cap, that and Rengoku blocking the blasts with fire AND Tanjiro turning the arrow with water
Didn't Tengen just use bombs? What? Rengoku's sword swings could've created air pressure because of how fast and hard he swung blocking the blast. The arrows followed the trajectory of his sword.
@@redryujin9395 Tengen's fifth form string performance had explosions all around it
@@nonamehours6428 The anime exaggerated it a bit, but overall he just threw bombs up that he hit with his swords.
@@redryujin9395 So you believe that a human was so capable in the series that he could literally go beyond supersonic speed. Even supersonic doesn't cut it, otherwise fighter jets irl would be leaving trails of fire from their wings at full speed. But you don't see that happening. A normal man could produce that much force, stronger and quicker than mach speed, but refuse to believe the fact that he could create fire with his breathing. I mean if you want to accept such far fetched explanations about the topic then them actually producing those elements isn't that far off
@@stealth6375 The problem is the author themself stated that water breathing isn't real water. I'd be fine if it was real as long if it weren't for the author's statement. As for the speed of demon slayer characters. Tanjiro was casually dodging Kyogai's claw marks which were speed of sound. When a slayer becomes a hybrid, their blood demon art enhances their breathing, and the two hybrids seemed to create real elements because of this. That would mean the high tiers in the show are faster than lightning, including Zenitsu who was faster than Kaigaku.
I’m so happy that somebody else agrees there is now way they don’t really make the element
If fire breathing is real how come nothing gets burnt when it's used?
@@RevolutionaryLoser daki….muzan…kokushibo….akaza….🤨🤦🏻♂️
@@step1saysomethingcontrover320 Daki and Muzan never fought Rengoku... Are you ok?
then there is also the move fake rainbow in the manga which uses sun breathing fire to MAKE AN ILLUSION THAT TRICIED AKAZA
Thank you. Actions are louder than words. Thank you
This is how I feel. Ppl say the elements aren’t real but like there’s instances in the show that would suggest they ARE real. Cuz otherwise idk how just some fancy sword swings could do some of the stuff that happens no matter how powerful they are
Sun breathing may be the only “exception” from this since it “burns” demons through the bright red nichirin sword. Its like being sliced with a really hot iron sword
Daki felt burning not because the hinokami fires are actually there but because the sword is literally burning her since tanjiro is tapping into his hinokami powers
They explain that the reason the swords burn is because the immense strength of the user gripping the sword heats up the metal. This is achieved bc Breathing gives users a huge increase in strength at the cost of decreasing their lifespan. This is just physics.
When the users get their black marks on their skins they've unlocked the most powerful level of Breathing at which point the metal is so hot it burns. This is true of every style, not just Sun breathing.
@@RevolutionaryLoserI argue death of the author occurred when the animators and studio absolutely did not know the effects were supposed to be fake, hence the various examples given by people in the comments. So between that and the fact the author clearly doesn't understand physics as many point out, a lot of tanjiros water attacks don't make sense without real water. Air pressure, no matter the form, would need way more air (volume? Density?) to replicate water.
@@manyharmons4308 I have no idea what example you are talking about. As I said, they say several times they explain that the reason the blades burn is because the immense pressure on the grip of the blade causes the metal to heat which is pretty basic physics, primary school physics actually.
@@RevolutionaryLoseri meant in general all comments and thats an example of the authors level of physics understanding if they think that explains the wind shit tanjiro does i mean rengoku whatever but water and wind are very different things and he uses his "wind pressure" like its pure water which would never work.
@@manyharmons4308 As I said, I have no idea what wind/water pressure you are talking about. Ive seen plenty of people in this comment section who have a baby's understanding of applied physics so you are going to have to elaborate.
Love your commentary
We stay on the grind! 🤙🏾
tanjiro using forms to take directions lol
Not to mention the literal thunderclap shockwave zenitsu makes and they repeatedly acknowledge a thunderclap is being made.
Keyword Shockwave theirs you're answer
The sound of lightning is just the sound any object makes if it travels through air fast enough. He is just moving really fast. It has nothing to do with electricity.
@@RevolutionaryLoser A object that small moving that fast WOULD NOT make that noise.
@@waffleten9750 The size of the object is irrelevant. Lightning makes that noise and in that case we're talking about literal molecules of air moving at incredible speed.
For moment's like when tanjiro redirected the arrows or when rengoku block that attack, I think that is the pressure from the swinging of their swords and the air pressure took form of their breathing stances.
They seem like they're not there 95% of the time then occasionally there's something that contradicts it 5% of the time.
Lmao. When?
Never forget when Tanjiro was literally burning Daki’s scarves
That literally never happened.
@@RevolutionaryLoser she even said she feels burns?
@@usmcmanatee2591 She FEELS it burn, but did she actually get burned?
@@tyr9908 yes…that’s how she feels it in the first place?
@@usmcmanatee2591 It's feels like fire (that's the burning feeling) but it's not actual fire that's burning her but it feels like it. Breathing styles can mimic their element but it isn't real.
Let’s not forget how zenitsu moved at light speed when fighting daki
The description of the Breathing Style: “ this Breathing Style focuses on channeling strength into the user's legs, and maximizing the output of every single muscle and blood vessel in them”
@@sloantempest9421 that doesn’t really explain how he was just flying through the air 💀
@@josephwalker9329 If you are physically strong enough you can create enough down force to oppose gravity. This is the exactly same physics that wings in real life use.
@@sloantempest9421 lol no, he was literally flying in circles and 90 degree turns mid air with no other movement and force.
@@josephwalker9329 okay, what episode is this. I need to see this because if he isn't levitating & moving in a circle with the camera still, then it can be chocked up in anime being so dang overdramatic they do unexplained shiz. Which isn't unheard of.
I agree. At some point you have admit this is straight up Sword Hamon Magic.
They literally explain how it works using the english language. By controlling the breathing they pump their body with extra oxygen allowing them to briefly surpass their bodies' limitations. That's regular science not magic.
@@RevolutionaryLoser And the elemental effects we see when they do this?
@@Horrorcrusher8312 As the author already explained that's just a visual metaphor. That's why water doesn't drown, fire doesn't burn and sunlight doesn't kill demons.
@@Horrorcrusher8312 rengoku's fire never burned anything, tanjiros water never made anything wet, zenitsu never electrocuted anybody, etc, etc. The only exceptions are /demons/ who use breathing techniques because they are using a blood demon art to ACTUALLY manifest the element of their breathing style.
You got me with the last line, can’t disagree with that logic lol
I believe this is just anime logic to what is "real", but in concept, most of these things are anime-only features.
There is some unholy logic sometimes but its like Sword styles in OP not being "powers".
This is only Breathings tho, actual paranormal things in Demon slayer can be listed:
- The Demons themselves
- The Demon Blood Arts
- The "Slayer Mark" technique
- The "Bright Red Nichirin" technique
- "See Through World"
- The Breathing technique as a whole. Not the styles, but the technique to breath to enchanted your styles, which lets them move at auperspeed, superstrength, etc. They are necessary for the Breathing Styles to work and yet the Author feels like he was lazy to explain it properly, which causes most of the confusion.
- ... Ghosts.
The Demons Slayer devoted their life to killing demons so my head canon is that the Sword techniques are hallucinations caused by harsh training.
That it so dumb that it makes sense, that’s my new take on this lmao
Doctor: Uh tanjiro, u realize ur not actually using water right?
Tanjiro(head cocked to the side swinging his sword trying to drink the water): Y-yes i am!! I worked too hard for it NOT to be real.
Doctor: Um tanjiro? Why are u swinging your body like that?
Tanjiro (in a strait jacket in an enclosed room): Because Im thirsty and want a drink!!
Brother he literally disproved that in the video.
@@mythicalthings1796 he didn't
How do the Demons and other regular people see the Demon Slayers Hallucinations then...that makes no sense
I could not have said it better myself.
Just commenting and liking to make sure you get paid my dude
Not to mention Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's Thunderclap from a distance twice. Once when they're at the woods with the brother and sister demons, and again Tanjiro hears Thunderclap from outside the Mugen Train
That was zenitsu creating sonic booms, tanjiro said it sounds /LIKE/ thunder.
This is one of the only things I refuse to consider canon even if said
Yep totally agree
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If the breathing styles were real Sun breathing would kill demons instantly but It doesn't do shit unless the blade touches them.
Thank youuuuuu! I’ve been hoping that someone would bring this up because I thought I was the only one.
Let’s not forget about god speed, my guy was literally soaring through the air so no one should mention visual representation to me
Anime adaptation.
I fully agree with you on this one my brother
I still believe that the elements are moreso a representation of the movements, force, and techniques behind there actions rather than actually being there
it air thats doing those magic boodoo sh, the effects is just not real, accept it
THANK YOU. This is what I was looking for
agreed
But muhhh magicc
It could be some kind of invisible energy or something, and the fire, water, ect is just to visualize it.
Expanded Force: The user can exert forces onto other things and people that cover and affect more area of their bodies than the usual force, meaning instead of exerting force on a certain area of that body, more parts, such as a whole torso and the head can be affected with the same strike or push.
Pressure Strike: The user can strike from a distance by generating with a wave of pressure/shockwave.
Slash Projection: The user can project the slashing effect of bladed weapons as if they were a projectile. Rather than simply creating razor-sharp air currents via movement pressure, this actually acts as an extension of the blade, carrying its sharpness and properties to a range longer than the physical weapon.
Cutting Wave: The user can project matter/energy in a way that allows them to cut through matter from a distance. Although this attack does usually slashing damage, some users are able to focus it into single piercing stab like immaterial bullet.
All of these can be covered artistically with the elemental affects.
Kinda defeats the point of the elements “not being there” if they’re still using some illogical super power type shit to block it like at that point just say the fire is blocking it. Not some “wind pressure.” Because not only is that in-precise but also isn’t happening from one very slow swing.
Bro dont even get me started on MIST BREATHING
In the manga when Tanjiro and Giyu were fighting akaza and Tanjiro used solar heat have his sword waved like a heat haze
That just proves it all
fr how did tanjiro send the arrows to another direction u cant do that with a real katana ffs
The elements aren't there. This can be explained by multiple powers that exist:
Expanded Force: The user can exert forces onto other things and people that cover and affect more area of their bodies than the usual force, meaning instead of exerting force on a certain area of that body, more parts, such as a whole torso and the head can be affected with the same strike or push.
Pressure Strike: The user can strike from a distance by generating with a wave of pressure/shockwave.
Slash Projection: The user can project the slashing effect of bladed weapons as if they were a projectile. Rather than simply creating razor-sharp air currents via movement pressure, this actually acts as an extension of the blade, carrying its sharpness and properties to a range longer than the physical weapon.
Cutting Wave: The user can project matter/energy in a way that allows them to cut through matter from a distance. Although this attack does usually slashing damage, some users are able to focus it into single piercing stab like immaterial bullet.
All of these can be covered artistically with the elemental affects.
As for Rengoku-
Enhanced Leap: The user can jump farther than average members of their species. They can leap farther than even the greatest human athlete. Impressive feats include being able to jump over large fences, clear big holes in the ground, jump from building top to building top, and etc.
Supernatural Leap: User can jump incredible distances and land safely, covering frighteningly tall heights and long distances. Usually comes with extremely strong and durable legs. In some cases, a jump can fool an observer into believing the person is "Flying", such as with early Superman comics. The distance of how far a user can jump can be across neighborhoods, canyons, cities, or even across a planet. Height will be equivalent to buildings, mountains, the mesosphere and eventually reaching space.
Enhanced Speed: (go to superpower wiki, he literally in the main user of the power)
Supernatural Speed: Users can move at speeds drastically beyond what is naturally possible over other beings in their universe because their capabilities are pushed far beyond the natural level, making them immensely faster than regular beings (in that verse) as they can travel anywhere from supersonic to hypersonic speed or even lightspeed and infinitely beyond.
this is some high level cope if ive ever seen it. If they're all ready super human, why not give them the ability to harness the elements??? It's so boring if it's trying to take the elements out of the show
Gaining super human strength, speed, senses, etc is completely different from learning to summon FIRE. Real life people have learned ways to push trucks over with their bare hands, & pull large planes (G Would of Records, look it up) so yeah learned to to do that makes more sense than learning to breathe & cut with water.
Heck, with peak human strength we can kick a tree in half, with a SINGLE kick.
@@sloantempest9421 or Gotouge just sucks at differentiating normal sword techniques as she admitted. And byproduct failed on making it look like real sword techniques and instead anime bullshit powers
I guess. Because if the elements are there all the time, a lot more damage would be done. Everyone on the train would be dead cuz the whole train was wood
@@sloantempest9421 and yet no one is harmed when Nezuko used her flames on them
EXACTLY MY POINT AND IT'S NOT EVEN RENGOKU BY HIMSELF THAT THIS IS PROVEN. When Zenitsu was fighting that spider demon he literally killed the demon and hit THE WOODEN HOUSE SO HARD IT SOUNDED LIKE LIGHTNING and Tanjiro actually acknowledges the sound and wonders if it was actual lightning.
Same goes for the Mist and Wind Hashira with some of their attacks actually affecting the area around them from a distant and or making the Demon themselves acknowledge the very element is actually real... EXPLAIN THAT SO CALLED CREATOR
This is literally the first time you can't take wat the creator of said as Truth with their own work
It's called jumping really hard. Lightning is just the sound of something travelling through air really fast so if you jumped hard enough it would sound like lightning.
@@RevolutionaryLoser Ugh No
@@kaimobley5324 Lmao. Maybe you should study harder at school. This is basic knowledge.
@@RevolutionaryLoser No it isn't. Most people wouldn't even know this
@@kaimobley5324 Lmao. Please stop talking.
Koyoharu Gotouge: B-But then I'd have to let people have fun.... 🥺 😔
Don’t even get me started on Dead Calm HE’S NOT EVEN SWINGING HIS SWORD DON’T GIVE ME THAT HS ABOUT IT NOT BEING REAL
Then you have Daki, who didn’t have ptsd from Tanjiro’s Sun breathing fire, but did when Nezuko used her blood art. Sure elements may exist, but even if they do they’re still so fucking inconsistent.
??? Yes she did we even get a full on explanation about how muzans cells are scared because of Tanjiros sun breathing
I don’t understand how this is a shock to people. I feel the series makes it clear that these are simply visualizers and the affects they have on other objects are the results of the sword wielder’s enhanced physical ability.
The breathing techniques are so important because of how they boost the users natural ability. Sometimes to the point you swing a sword so fast it burns someone.
How abt radiating electricity around you to kill things w/o using his sword against them.
For all people say
We never see a demon getting wet after fighting tanjiro or something get caught on fire becuz of rengoku,electricity around zenitsu is just static from moving to fast its prolly the reason its called thunder breathing
@@AE-or7xd when was this? You do understand the only way he kills demons is simply behead them, right.
@@Misto8990 Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away?
Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon.
Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful.
Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that?
Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me".
like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
@@thatrandomguy362 my brother in christ its called thunder breathing becuz it is as loud and quick as a lightning bolt it has nothing to do with spawning lightning yourself,also if zenitsu was truly spawning a lightining bolt why didnt tanjiro see it just hear it?
We dont even see tanjiro be lit up by the thunder's light
Can't argue with the creator; they created it.
Ok? And his words literally contradict his own creation. I don't care what he said
A rare moment were the creators statements become cap 🧢
But don't worry toriyama has done this too
Yeah although tengen, kaigaku, and kokushibo are the main ones that actually manifest their breathing styles.
Kokushibo and kaigaku because they're demons.
Tengen because he using actual bombs and explosions.
Although I wish all of the effects were real, I mean that scene were tomioka is with tanjiro and nezuko, there were butterfly effects which tomioka noticed before shinobu came in to attack. If the effects aren't actually meant to be visible how would tomioka have known shinobu was coming?
Plus if the effects aren't real, how would yoriichi have been able to scar muzan with sun breathing? I mean if it's basically not actual sun effects then muzan should have been able to regenerate from it since its just swordsmanship, along with flame breathing like he said in the video.
Unless they spin it with anime/manga logic like "you can see the effects but they just don't effect the environment, just the opponent" sort of direction with it
Even if it was the actual sun, Muzan would've been able to regenerate. I'm pretty sure Muzan didn't regenerate because of the mental impact Yoriichi had on him
its cuz of red nichrin blade thats how they defeated upper moon 1 and how they basically defeated muzan by exerting enough pressure snd grip into your sword you can in turn rapidly heat up the sword however unlike styles it has a actual chemical effect against demons (cuz nichrin is just a sunlight enhanced metal) thus why yourichi was able to scar and heavily damage muzan
@@redryujin9395 The whole point of the end of the manga is that he CAN'T beat the sun. What?
The sun being a weakness is an all-demon thing, it's explicitly stated that *SPOILER*
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Muzan can't die to nichirin blades and must be forced into the sunlight.
@@rashan141 I know, but demons who get partially burned by the sun don't get scars from where they got burned. It's not technically an all demon thing but I know what you mean
Didn't one of the demons once said he heard a thunder boom when zenitsu used his sword technique, I don't buy that it's not real nonsense because there been numerous times were the demons acknowledged the effects.
Yeah from I remember manga spoiler also when Zenitsu used a more powerful version of thunder breathing first form the brother said “the air is vibrating”
When Muichiro was fighting upper moon 5 after he got his mark up5 said something like “the mist is too thick I can’t see!”
@@elfumidoreviscaratoroflung You can vibrate the air by just vibrating your body really fast, and the demon said "it's as if...as if this whole placed is enveloped in mist". Key word being "as if", meaning there's actually no mist there and it's just his techniques giving off the same confusion a thick mist would.
@@elfumidoreviscaratoroflung Muichiro moves his body & baggy clothes in a specific manner to create the /illusion/ of mist, it isn't real actual mist.
@@elfumidoreviscaratoroflung There are plenty of explanations for Zenitsu and the vibrating air (The strength of his leap created a shockwave etc) but idk about Muichiro. I'm gonna assume the mist is either caused by dust kicked up by Muichiro or Muichiro is exhaling so much that clouds of mist are actually being formed. I'll just chalk it up as an inconsistency.
@@elfumidoreviscaratoroflung firstly zenitsu coudlve just been moving rlly fast causing the breaking of the sound barrier and in that exact same scene there is so called lightning around zenitsu but that same demon doesnt acknowledge it
Fr, no way a dude is making a regular sword slash so deep and loud that people halfway across the forest think it's thunder. I understand if it's a few meters away, but they were in a whole other part of the forest with tons of trees between them, and I'm supposed to think that's not real lightning? Okay.
It’s like Baki man. It’s not magic, but it’s basically magic
It’s fandom canon that they are real
Honestly the only breathing style ( that has special affects and is not used by demon ) I think is really is wind. I may have to reread just in case but at the moment that's what I think.
No you are right. There are other power that fit these abilities.
Mist
@@kaimobley5324 Wdym?
Sound Breathing is real.
@@HomellAlcautor it doesnt have special effects those are bombs
Don’t forget tanjiro making a ranged attack by changing water breathing first from and he chops through a tree with it.
Thank you
I can actually excuse most of the actions shown here with air
Since we can see how ridiculous some breathings are, you could make a point that rengoku moves are just him using his breathing to move that fast and fire himself
Same goes for tanjirou, rather than using actual water to re direct the attacks
He's using the wind created from the blade to redirect it
But I seriously can't explain rengoukus fire block
Probably just style, and that scene where he blocked probably lasted just 1-3 seconds, i mean akaza was floating
So that block just blocked akazas attack not by making a fire wall looking thing, just by normal blocking and the reason why it showed that is because of style and for us to better understand what happend it just showed that fire wall looking thing
I think the fire block could just be he blocked all of them at the same time I don’t know like you know how an anime the block a attack when they send multiple act them in like one swing it might’ve been something like that idk Don’t make sense how he blocked it I’m just trying to make sense of it myself
Don't forget that Rengoku went through a door without even moving it after talking to Tanjiro
You can't explain the Fire Block bcus he swung his sword 1 time and he blocked multiple hits from Akaza AFTER he already swung and he kept his arms in the air while the other attacks were coming at him
@@kaimobley5324 breathing is ridiculous,I can get behind doing that since their are far more difficult feats others have did with breathing
But like I said couldn't explain the fire block
even tho this was a year ago i still agree with this, everyone always tells me that oh its not real, but bro all these points make sense, and still do
They really don't...
The demons visualize their powers too. At the end of the day it’s aaaall just playground fighting
The blood demon arts are real
The breathing styles aren't
@@mrprince6260 Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away?
Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon.
Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful.
Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that?
Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me".
like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
It’s vary confusing cause sometimes demon say stuff like they can’t see it like when daki was confused by the way tanjiro cut her belt and she commented that it was burning and was not Regenerating normally
Not to mention Sun Breathing has an actual effect on demons causing them pain something no other breathing technique does
SUN BREATHING is the strongest breathing style for a reason their's no elements its just because of sun breathing
It's not the flames themselves that cause it. it's the sword itself changing it's color to red while using sun breathing. The red color transfers heat which mimics the sun's shine that's why it halts the demon's regeneration.
@@mysteryman9488 I find that to be incorrect as the blade didn’t turn red in entertainment district against Daki yet still interfered with regeneration
@@notthefbi7015 Anime adaptations can get things wrong too tho. Yorichii's sword is red due to his sun breathing so why would Tanjirou's be any different?
@@mysteryman9488 the red sword is caused by the mark that’s why others can use the red blade without sun breathing. Tanjiro didn’t get the mark till fighting gyutaro
Supposedly, these effects are just the wind or shockwaves with the elemental effects overlapping them, like One Piece but with extra flair. The only time these things are actually real are if blood demon arts are included with the attack.
Those Demons literally generate those elements & then use their Breathing Styles in unison.
Absolutely not. There's literally a thunder breathing form called distant thunder, that shoots lightning from the sword. Kaigaku did not invent a new form because he had demon power. The form actually exists and was just corrupted.
And don't get me started on Zenitsu's super speed that can surpass a demon who is also using thunder breathing.
Absolutely not. There's literally a thunder breathing form called distant thunder, that shoots lightning from the sword. Kaigaku did not invent a new form because he had demon power. The form actually exists and was just corrupted.
Tanjiro's sword burnt the spider demons threads. They weren't cut, they were burned. That fire was very real. Giyuu actually saw the butterflies from Shinobu's attacks. And the demon hit by her slashes also saw the butterflies.
The demon slayers could actually see the crescent moons in Kokushibo's slashes. These were actual breathing techniques, not blood demon arts. His demon art just regenerated his sword
And don't get me started on Zenitsu's super speed that can surpass a demon who is also using thunder breathing.
@@sloantempest9421 That's not what the maga shows.
Distant thunder is a perfect example. The technique is meant to shoot lightning. You can't tell me that it only worked because Kaigaku was a demon.
Also, Tanjiro could hear the sound of lightning from Zenitsu moving.
Sanemi created an actual tornado and a hurricane. And he is not a demon
Those things are very real, otherwise the red blade makes no sense
@@Problemsolver434 the demons that use breathing styles actually summon their elements because of their blood arts. It’s the best of both worlds there. As for the other things, I honestly don’t have a good excuse. The Wiki straight up says that the elements aren’t real, just the wind or shockwaves. I believe they aren’t happening, but if you do, power to ya.
I mean yeah, just let the blades which are already made from a special medal which absorbs sunlight and require unique breathing and movements for each technique cause the elements, like just have water breathing pull from the breath and air to make the water, lightning breathing be from static and pulled into the blade, flame breathing pulling in heat, and so on
Best points ever and like the Mc has Minecraft breathing
Wait they aren't real? I always thought they were real! They even made a whole plot about how Tanjiro's using a water form in his fighting when he should be using a fire form cuz of his family dynasty
@Filip Medak But He literally used water to break his fall and redirect a demon's magic arrows. How TF do u redirect arrows and break your fall with a sword FFS
@@sarmadhabibkhan3036 Hiting the ground so hard with your sword that he breaks your fall, and when the arrows came you just redirected them with his sword. It's still an anime you know they are superhuman.
@@thats1coldfish896 he slashed his sword before he hit the ground, it didnt touch it
@@randomguy4157 he swings and as it is about to touch the ground the water effects surround him causing him to hit the ground. Plus since the water isn't real, he either hit the ground with his sword or swung it so hard that it made like some sort of wind blast.
It's kinda weird to have the elements be in their mind, especially since they are fighting demons. Demons that do magic.
That's the whole point. Demons are nigh immortal killing machines with magic. And the best at killing them are people who can only rely on human, mundane means to fight back
Exactly. Demons are a very real thing in this universe, these characters using the elements isn’t a crazy idea 🧐
In my headcanon, the reasons why breath users are able to achieve the elemental effects of their respective elemental breathing style to the point we've been deceived into thinking that they've been created via supernatural means (aka magic) is the same way the Pillar Men from JJBA can use their respective elemental attacks via their mastery of their biology as immortal vampires.
-Wammu (the Pilar man of the Wind): Can twist & turn his arms to the point where he can create winds from IT capable of tearing apart objects (and or living things) regardless of their sturdiness.
-Esidisi (the Pilar Man of Fire & Heat):
Can raise his internal body temperature (much like how breath users can do in DS to unlock their marks) to the point that his blood LITERALLY is as hot & scalding as FRICKING LAVA.
-Kars (the Pilar man of Light):
Is fast AF (as the definition of light itself) and not only that, he has a mode that increases his already insane speed, in which he can turn his retractable blades as chainsaw and not only that the light emanating from the blades are a reflection from light instead of his own product from his biological mastery.
Now use the logic of how the Pilar Men's abilities from JJBA works as a base formula for you to solve the mysteries of the Breathing techniques of whether or not their elemental attacks/techniques are created via supernatural means (magic or something idk) or through sheer superhuman prowess (much like Pilar Men's body manipulation).
It was real when Zenitsu used God Speed and blitzed Daki while riding a lightning bolt
They literally could have just made breathing styles similar to Hamon from Jojo. Yes it’s a bit copyrightish, but they could have argued for the rights to go with that idea.
Wait so you're telling me that all the cool shit they're are doing is in their heads and the upper moons are just dying to basic swordfighting
That's kind of the entire point of the story.
You can tell the creator wanted to double down on what he said in season 3
Also Zenitsu apparently can create the sound of lightning strikes with his iado so something is fishy here if that is all imagination
He's just super human
The sound of lightning is just the sound any object makes if it travels through air really fast. He's just moving really fast. It's not magic.
@@RevolutionaryLoser Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away?
Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon.
Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful.
Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that?
Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me".
like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
@@mrprince6260 Tanjiro hears Zenitsu's "thunderclap and flash" despite being miles away. In the mountain arc of the anime, despite Tanjiro being miles away from Zenitsu, he audibly "hears" a loud thunderclap that at the time didn't know what it was, but as the audience we know it was Zenitsu fighting the spider demon. If the effects and elements are all for show, why could he hear Zenitsu fighting from miles away?
Tanjiro uses water breathing to gain footing while underwater. I will use direct quoting from the anime here. S1 Episode 7, (while Tanjiro is underwater) "Not to mention, there are moves that only unleash their full potential underwater! The form that can be utilized even when there's no sure footing. Generating a powerful vortex with a violent upper twist of my upper and lower body! Total concentration! Water Breathing! Sixth form! Whirpool! I mean this one alone proves the elements are real like cmon.
Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to heat up his body. In the second season, Tanjiro uses Sun breathing to raise his body temp. causing fever to allow him to be more powerful.
Inosuke's Beast breathing. Throughout the show, it's been shown that when Inosuke uses his Beast breathing, he's able to completely sense where everything in a given radius is, if it's fake and he's just a normal human, how do you explain that?
Tanjiro switches to 5th form "Blessed Rain After the Drought" to kill the spider mom. I don't know about you guys, but if I just got my head sliced off by a sword, the last thing I would think was "this feels amazing, it's so peaceful as if light rain is showering me".
like anybody who say the effects in demon slayers are fake is an idiot and shouldnt be taken seriously
@@thatrandomguy362 None of those things are magic. Breathing is just a way to overload your body with oxygen and gives you two stated benefits: It gives you a boost in strength and it heightens your senses. Water breathing style was designed to be useful in water. Being able to swing a sword in water isn't magic. It is stated in several chapters that the massive force employed during Breathing causes objects to become very hot from the pressure and muscle activity and obviously objects moving through air at great speed make a lot of noise, indistinguishable from thunder sometimes. This isnt magic. It's just basic physics.
They literally explain all this several times.
no matter what facts are given to me i will always believe the elements are real like come on Demon slayers are already at superhuman level let just have them there elemental abilties
Yeah when the creator makes the elemental effects have physical evidence that they exist in the world. the whole "It's just in their mind" thing becomes absolute bullshit.
not to mention anytime zenitsu uses thunderclap everyone comments on "hearing thunder"
That is just him creating sonic booms
Then why when Giyu “summons” water how come water was no where to be seen after.
And don’t get started on Rengoku. Akaza had no burns on him to be seen.
Bro did you not see how fast akaza's regeneration is?
@@mangolian3773 we could still see his cuts like when he regens his arm when rengoku “summons” fire.
What if its just to show how powerful they are? Sure it would take more than one swing to block something or to save your life. But that could just show how much weaker we are to them.
That’s because the sword style are like this element to regular people like how yourichi looked like a spirte rather then a human while performing his techniques
I swear the creators. Sometimes just need to create and don't say nothing else
And especially when demons already exist, like that concept already breaks any logic for it being realistic since you know demons don’t exist, plus every demon has a blood art which is already a power system for the demons so just make the Hashira and demon slayers have there own power system, the way they utilize swordsman ship and elements is already unique so why throw that away by calling it “visual effect” just kinda ruins it to be honest
Tanjiro literally heard lightning strike when zenitsu used his breathing technique during the mugen train arc. Just let it be real
You can heat your body up and if you gave a trained swordsman that he's gonna do it better
"Supply the cap" 😭