The show is actually following a traditional serialized tv formula. Each episode has an arc with a beginning middle and end. Instead of feeling like just pieces to 4-8 hour movie. That's why I think it works so so well so far.
@@CaptainLuckyLuke Absolutely, Cindy Tolan (who returns after doing American casting for the first Reeves Batman movie) and Suzanne Ryan did an incredible job.
@perenniallachrymosity276 Agreed. It’s bizarre there’s not more awards for casting directors because they really make or break movies and tv shows. They should get their own Oscar category or, at least, get included in the Best Picture Oscar.
I love how they really emphasize penguin 🐧 strengths. He can’t rely on super strength or speed or even flight. His super power is his ability to plot and scheme. His ability to turn people against each other is his main strength. He’s literally the Littlefinger of the Batman universe 😂
I feel like there is a parallel being drawn between Oz's limp and the way he's brilliantly fumbling his way through his schemes. He's got a strong foot and a weak foot, and the narrative always shows him taking one confident step forward with his plotting and then stumbling when something goes bad. Then, he takes another strong step when another piece of his plan bails him out. Let me know if I'm reading too far into it, or if anyone agrees!
I wouldn’t say your reading to much into it, it fits the theme of survival b/c ultimately that’s what Oz is and has been throughout his entire life. Like he said to Victor, if you operate amongst the lions & wolves you need to be quick and witty.
He couldn’t plant the blade on Vitti because if he got Vitti killed then the blackmail the he gave the Maroni’s would be worthless. Since he realized he wasn’t going to get Ervald out, he couldn’t have the Maroni’s be completely empty-handed
I like the way the series sets up how people are a product of the combination of choices, the environment, specific situations, and how others treat them. And the acting is amazing!
I fully am convinced at this point will see a major character in Sofia’s Arkham flashbacks. It seems to me that her PTSD aside, their hinting at something major happened in there while she was doing her bid.
Hector: She killed 7 women Me: Did she? In the rewatch I was reminded in The Batman of Carmine Falcone admitting to strangling Selina Kyle's mom. Carmine attempting to strangle Selina. The recording of Nadia being strangled. Did Sofia Falcone kill 7 women or did she go down for it?🤔
I really like that this show established that Oz's big goal is to eventually make it to the top in this criminal enterprise and they highlighted exactly the sort of mobster-figure he'd like to be when they told that story of the man from his old neighborhood. So you get the idea that he wants to be a part of this criminal lifestyle and he wants to succeed but he also wants to be the type to use that power to do right by people. He wants others to look at him fondly and remember him well because of the small ways he can offer good to them just like that other man did back in the day. He wants that balance of respect and love even when it comes with a side of fear. And you see all of this embodied in the way he interacts with Vic or the different sex workers. He doesn't just pay for the women's time so he can use them and get rid of them which is what you'd expect if he's paying for services only. But we see he buys food and drinks for them, plays music so they'll have a good time, he pays more than what they ask for, gives them compliments and seems to build a level of rapport with them where they're seemingly comfortable around him. Vic gets a similar treatment where he's mentoring, joking with him, creating a relationship beyong boss/goon, sharing parts of his lifestory with him, letting him know about his mom, etc. Not what you'd expect from a typical villain type yet this sort of character makes sense if he might eventually become the mayor or something in this universe (corrupt but doing good).
As much as these guys constantly predict death for Eve and Victor, I can't help but go in the opposite direction in thinking we're witnessing multiple villain origin stories. Victor Aguilar's story is bearing a number of similarities to the much more humble beginnings of Victor Zsasz. Also, it can't be a coincidence that Eve's last name is Karlo. Doubt it'll go full metahuman but I can see a much more grounded master of disguise/social chameleon interpretation of Clayface.
What only occurred to me in this episode about Oswald is why he drives around in such an obviously eye catching colour of car. So he can plainly be seen in Gotham in it, but when he visits his mother ( who we now know people think has died ), he drives a mundane everyday car. Perfect camouflage. Oz is pretty smart 😊
It's a little thing, but the scene between Vic and the cam girl is really sweet. And she is _good_ - not only does she give him the space to speak despite his stutter, but the second she realises that asking him if he'd lost anyone made him withdraw, she changed the subject and kept him engaged. It was nice to see Vic smiling and enjoying the attention of the fairer sex 🙂
👩🏾💻👩🏾💻 When ya'll were talking about this being the only show that made our dear Penguin somewhat of sympathetic character it got me thinking, didn't they do that (all be it fleeting moments) in Tim Burton's "Batman" #2? Of course I was very young the last time I saw it, but I remember the movie's introduction to the character (that was a little heartbreaking). I know he used a lot of his past to manipulate but there were some times when Danny Devito showed real emotion. Then the f***** tried to kill all the kids!😶😶 Sorry, got caught up there for a moment, I do love this show as well and I hope Colin wins some awards for his performance cause "yous" are right sometimes I forget it's him under there. 🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️💜💜
What was Battison doing during that drug heist? Not complaint but I really wanna know where Bruce was or if he’s tracking what’s going on between the family’s.
They’re making Sofia too sympathetic for a serial killer. I predict we will find out she is innocent, and maybe took the fall for her brother (hence the dreams about him visiting in prison) or maybe was set up by Penguin.
@@ForeverBrooklynNYC That's why you would really have to think about it! 😂 Seriously though, if Cobb throws him far enough into the deep end, he successfully completes the task and that builds his confidence, the personality adjustment could very easily take place and 'presto', Zsasz is born! Then again, his transformation into Zsasz may take place between the end of this mini-series of The Penguin and the release of The Batman 2, so we may never actually see it but we will made to know the catalyst for the change.
MASTERFULLY put together, watching Oz navigate - so good! I had NO idea how he'd survive when that truck got torn from earhole to asshole, as Mr. Krabs would say.
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The show is actually following a traditional serialized tv formula. Each episode has an arc with a beginning middle and end. Instead of feeling like just pieces to 4-8 hour movie. That's why I think it works so so well so far.
100% this. It doesn’t feel like a movie chopped up. Every episode has a start middle and end.
And no pointless episodic cliff hangers!!
That's very true. I love the MCU, but the only show that had an actual series format, was Wandavision. And it was their best show, I wonder why..
@@markson810wow Agents of shield was better than Wandavision by a mile
Colin must win an Emmy for this role.
@@vibes4716 And Christin!
I can fix Sofia, guys.
That boy Oz Cobb is ruthless!
You mean "roythless" 😂
And I’m here for it!
@@mark2graves-movies689 😂😂😂
"I'm not safe, I'm home." Ouch, and also true.
Even if you take this show out of The Batman universe it’s still a killer show.
Screw Batman i now want penguin to eat some gabagool lol
@@InfamousDominion oh yeah definitely, Sofia falcone herself gives me chills lmao
It reminds me of sopranos
The Casting Director really needs an Emmy for this show!!
@@CaptainLuckyLuke Absolutely, Cindy Tolan (who returns after doing American casting for the first Reeves Batman movie) and Suzanne Ryan did an incredible job.
@perenniallachrymosity276 Agreed. It’s bizarre there’s not more awards for casting directors because they really make or break movies and tv shows. They should get their own Oscar category or, at least, get included in the Best Picture Oscar.
I love how they really emphasize penguin 🐧 strengths. He can’t rely on super strength or speed or even flight. His super power is his ability to plot and scheme. His ability to turn people against each other is his main strength. He’s literally the Littlefinger of the Batman universe 😂
Cristin Milioti is an absolute POWERHOUSE. Wow.
I feel like there is a parallel being drawn between Oz's limp and the way he's brilliantly fumbling his way through his schemes. He's got a strong foot and a weak foot, and the narrative always shows him taking one confident step forward with his plotting and then stumbling when something goes bad. Then, he takes another strong step when another piece of his plan bails him out.
Let me know if I'm reading too far into it, or if anyone agrees!
I wouldn’t say your reading to much into it, it fits the theme of survival b/c ultimately that’s what Oz is and has been throughout his entire life.
Like he said to Victor, if you operate amongst the lions & wolves you need to be quick and witty.
"Everyone needs to make sacrifices pal" was cold AF!!
He couldn’t plant the blade on Vitti because if he got Vitti killed then the blackmail the he gave the Maroni’s would be worthless. Since he realized he wasn’t going to get Ervald out, he couldn’t have the Maroni’s be completely empty-handed
How can I love Agatha & The Penguin? They are both juicy vilians in different ways.
@@jemmaleofitz1152 need to start Agatha.
I like the way the series sets up how people are a product of the combination of choices, the environment, specific situations, and how others treat them. And the acting is amazing!
I think you guys missed the line where Oz tells Sophia to that his mom was dead.
I want a Harvey Dent series in this universe so bad
He’s all but confirmed at this point, one of the newspapers literally states the new Gotham DA is putting a “dent” in crime
Nah. I want zaas murder mystery with Gordon hunting him down and batman shows up to help here and there
I fully am convinced at this point will see a major character in Sofia’s Arkham flashbacks.
It seems to me that her PTSD aside, their hinting at something major happened in there while she was doing her bid.
High quality television. HBO just does it better.
Hector: She killed 7 women
Me: Did she? In the rewatch I was reminded in The Batman of Carmine Falcone admitting to strangling Selina Kyle's mom.
Carmine attempting to strangle Selina.
The recording of Nadia being strangled.
Did Sofia Falcone kill 7 women or did she go down for it?🤔
I really like that this show established that Oz's big goal is to eventually make it to the top in this criminal enterprise and they highlighted exactly the sort of mobster-figure he'd like to be when they told that story of the man from his old neighborhood. So you get the idea that he wants to be a part of this criminal lifestyle and he wants to succeed but he also wants to be the type to use that power to do right by people.
He wants others to look at him fondly and remember him well because of the small ways he can offer good to them just like that other man did back in the day. He wants that balance of respect and love even when it comes with a side of fear. And you see all of this embodied in the way he interacts with Vic or the different sex workers. He doesn't just pay for the women's time so he can use them and get rid of them which is what you'd expect if he's paying for services only. But we see he buys food and drinks for them, plays music so they'll have a good time, he pays more than what they ask for, gives them compliments and seems to build a level of rapport with them where they're seemingly comfortable around him. Vic gets a similar treatment where he's mentoring, joking with him, creating a relationship beyong boss/goon, sharing parts of his lifestory with him, letting him know about his mom, etc.
Not what you'd expect from a typical villain type yet this sort of character makes sense if he might eventually become the mayor or something in this universe (corrupt but doing good).
Thanks to Adam, Hector and Agustin! 🐧
Cristin Milioti! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That side shot of Colin at the funeral talking to Sophia I couldn’t help but look at him and think omg it’s a fat mobbed up Richard Nixon
As much as these guys constantly predict death for Eve and Victor, I can't help but go in the opposite direction in thinking we're witnessing multiple villain origin stories. Victor Aguilar's story is bearing a number of similarities to the much more humble beginnings of Victor Zsasz. Also, it can't be a coincidence that Eve's last name is Karlo. Doubt it'll go full metahuman but I can see a much more grounded master of disguise/social chameleon interpretation of Clayface.
12:49 Is that Harvey Bullock?
What only occurred to me in this episode about Oswald is why he drives around in such an obviously eye catching colour of car. So he can plainly be seen in Gotham in it, but when he visits his mother ( who we now know people think has died ), he drives a mundane everyday car. Perfect camouflage. Oz is pretty smart 😊
It's a little thing, but the scene between Vic and the cam girl is really sweet. And she is _good_ - not only does she give him the space to speak despite his stutter, but the second she realises that asking him if he'd lost anyone made him withdraw, she changed the subject and kept him engaged. It was nice to see Vic smiling and enjoying the attention of the fairer sex 🙂
It's almost disturbing that Oz and The Coach (in The Gentlemen) are played by the same guy. Collin is so underrated
"It's been two episodes, I feel like we've been watching this show for 3 weeks already!"
Ummmm, you have.
"Thyat was a Jewcy Hamboyger"
Love watching you guys!
👩🏾💻👩🏾💻 When ya'll were talking about this being the only show that made our dear Penguin somewhat of sympathetic character it got me thinking, didn't they do that (all be it fleeting moments) in Tim Burton's "Batman" #2? Of course I was very young the last time I saw it, but I remember the movie's introduction to the character (that was a little heartbreaking). I know he used a lot of his past to manipulate but there were some times when Danny Devito showed real emotion. Then the f***** tried to kill all the kids!😶😶
Sorry, got caught up there for a moment, I do love this show as well and I hope Colin wins some awards for his performance cause "yous" are right sometimes I forget it's him under there.
🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️💜💜
This show is awesome!
🐧
What was Battison doing during that drug heist? Not complaint but I really wanna know where Bruce was or if he’s tracking what’s going on between the family’s.
Diddy in the Batman universe is known as “The Diddler”
Like Condiment King but with Baby Oil 🤣
A diddy party 😂
Is it possible that the Penguin meets his end at the conclusion of this series and isn't in The Batman 2?
Colin Farrell as pretty much hinted that Oz survives and has certain aspirations by the time we get to Part II
Reeves said that this show leads directly into Batman 2
Dangggg no TLOU Season 2 trailer reaction? 🥲
😈
@@HeroesReforged so you’re saying there’s a chance?! 👀
2:15 ayo he’s way too handsy 😭
13:30 😂😂😂
That AI song in the outtro :D
It was made by a viewer.
@@HeroesReforged Fair. It does sound suspeciously a lot like an AI generated song made with something like Suno though. I like it regardless :D
I need an answer now!!!! Where can a 40+ year old man go to , to complain about movies and tv shows made for 12 year olds!!!!!
U just don’t listen about his mother…..maybe they will kill Oz mother 😢
Like the videos, but I can't handle the react faces in the video thumb.
Next one we'll be staring right at camera.
They’re making Sofia too sympathetic for a serial killer. I predict we will find out she is innocent, and maybe took the fall for her brother (hence the dreams about him visiting in prison) or maybe was set up by Penguin.
She literally blasted a kid in the face with a gun in the first episode so her killing 7 women no problem believing that
THANKS for this, @HeroesReforged!!!!
#Penguin #ThePenguin #BatmanUniverse #Max #TheBatman #ColinFarrell #CristinMilioti
Victor Aguilar, if you really think about it, could very well turn out to be Victor Zazz.
The person SMSing him is actually his girlfriend...
Vic would have to have a total personality replacement to become Zsasz. Vic can barely deal with violence while Zsasz revels in it.
@@ForeverBrooklynNYC
That's why you would really have to think about it! 😂
Seriously though, if Cobb throws him far enough into the deep end, he successfully completes the task and that builds his confidence, the personality adjustment could very easily take place and 'presto', Zsasz is born!
Then again, his transformation into Zsasz may take place between the end of this mini-series of The Penguin and the release of The Batman 2, so we may never actually see it but we will made to know the catalyst for the change.
MASTERFULLY put together, watching Oz navigate - so good! I had NO idea how he'd survive when that truck got torn from earhole to asshole, as Mr. Krabs would say.
I hate these Sticks….