I’ve been there! I’m an army combat veteran 31B and I did 7 deployments to Iraq/ Afghanistan and in the end the US government was the worst enemy that I ever faced.
@@spinrash6000not only military but honest police, politicians, lawyers, judges all learn the same as well when the higher ups get a whiff of someone finding their secrets
exactly dude sounds like a fucking robot. I couldn’t listen to the whole interview. Wish he would’ve done the interview with someone else. Maybe he has. I’ll go and look it up. OK, OK OK OK OK. OK OK, not only that he asks such stupid questions.
You mean crack head still looking for a fix just like then because he was a failure he wasn't no great athlete why he failed and turned to drugs and ratting how couldn't they see it he's a rat all day .
It’s always the better guys who are quiet and humble, the nobodies who’ll never accomplish anything bark the loudest because that’s all they’ve got, words.
Imagine dedicating your life literally to what you perceive as doing the right thing only to find out you were working for a bunch of scumbsgs that are worse than the criminals that youve been fighting. That has to be devastating....the ultimate betrayal
Happens to us in the military everyday 😂 most of us realize it early on and it is conflicting with your morals and mental health and causes tons of depression in us sad it has to happen to anyone him included
I could never understand why young men would give into the propaganda. I see it everyday, they are discarded like the plague. Lol for what ? Elites war wake the F up
Horrible principles. Enforcing unconstitutional laws although that is the least of it. Victimless crime laws and unjust kaws. Plus working for an agency which has killed many innocent children, babies, women, etc... Disgusting agency and human. Probably just an ignorant man but should that be an excuse?
What a hell of a interview. I'm happy to know that there are people like this man out there protecting us. It's crazy how you never know who these people are protecting us and you'll never meet/see them.
Makes you think if the Government is prepared to do that to one of their own imagine what they would do to someone they truly hate or who stands in their way 🤔🤔🤔
Don't have to imagine it...its happening right now...all-around us. Christians and parents being investigated as homegrown terrorists, Law abiding citizens being prosecuted and fined for violating un constitutional "Rules" that are not laws, spying on political opponents...
It would be even better if there were less criminals and better citizens so we wouldn't need police, but shifting blame seems to be totally accepted these days.
Well just look at what they did at WACO. Heck when an organization makes you start siding with a cult you know they be messing up. (Not to mention the whole Mexico gun fiasco)
I’ve read the book about his operation in the angels and all I can say is this man has balls of steel doing what he did he also seems like an incredibly nice guy
The ATF is a disgusting pathetic agency though that has killed innocents and children and locked up many for victimless crime laws and unjust laws. The literally enforce unconstitutional laws too. An entire agency to enforce unconstitutional laws. This guy is by extention a horrible person.
Exactly my thoughts. Vlad always has great guests but is horrible in interviewing and having zero interaction with his guests. Seems almost disrespectful.
I'm a longtime Tucson desert rat myself.....I'm 69 in '23 and lived here since 1st grade. I never met Jay....he was from the other side of town but I watched him catch many a football during his U of A playing career. This guy undersells himself......he was damn good. We're all proud of HomeBoy here....and the world would be a lot better if more people emulated his work ethic and attitude about life. God Bless him. joelintucson
Wild! He has a truly mind boggling story in so many ways. Should be a whole cable series on his career as a UC officer. He's being way too hard on himself for having an epic life and I doubt he's quite done with it yet. Maybe a series on corruption in law enforcement instead? Or both? All it takes is one good run JBird and you have what you need already. Much respect and keep it coming.
He is a piece of crap. His job basically is to act like he is your friend. If you know this man on a personal level (as a friend?) - makes you wonder if he is acting, or not.
Sounds like the ATF are basically pissed off over him writing a book. Those ATF losers need the whole force disbanded for treating this man the way they did. They’re about as useless as the F.B.I.
Ehhh this guy was unmasked after he wrote a book and went public. He violated the rules first. It’s like someone paying you a bunch of money to go live in witness protection in Idaho and then a few weeks later you start a public access radio show talking about the reason why you’re in wit sec.
The HA still swear that Jay and his partner never infiltrated them,but his story has never changed. I have seen several interviews and shows with Mr Dobbins, I have mad respect for what he’s done. Great interview
Man I've seen you interviewed before but I never heard about how the ATF outed you and left your butt out there on your own. That is totally F_____ up. As a civilian who worked construction and an OTR truck driver. I would have been head hunting for blood. Man have you got restraint. God bless you and yours. And thank you for your service Sir.
Much respect to Jay. This guy was the real thing. Good to see you on this interview. Hopefully all is well. I met you and had lunch with you at a conference in San Diego back in the late 90s put on for our group outlaw m/c investigators. Be well and cheers from an original Sancatt member. Info only,not my real name on this account.
He is right about people's commitment to the "CLUBS". My Uncle blue dressed up as a baby for Halloween, alongside my father as joke. They beat my uncle and my father within an inch of their life and kicked my uncle out of the "CLUB" he was in almost his whole life. Several months later he took his own life with a shotgun, leaving behind my aunt who had never worked and cousins who were barely just teenagers at the time😢. R.i.p Uncle blue I still remember you allowing me to sit on your motorcycle for the first time as a kid. Everyone stay blessed 🙏
I knew him in HS, played against him, our rival at the time, knew several guys from Sahuaro. Years later I ran into him again, he was using a different name, had no idea who he was at that moment, zero. Then after he wrote his book I was stunned to know I knew both of him.
It’s crazy how this man did so much good for the justice system to take all these horrible people off the streets, and they just tried to do him so dirty
@@macysondheim thanks for commenting, I never knew trying to take down orginizations that kill people and really do no good at all made someone a rat, it's called a hero
Someone explain to me why ATF unmasked his identifying information. I can't tell from the interview how his relationship with ATF went south. Based on the interview, it sounds like the Hells Angels had it out for him, put a hit out on him, and ATF for no apparent reason started treating him badly. If you can fill in the blanks, please help me out on that one. I can tell by the thousand yard stare he has, that he's witnessed some crazy stuff. God bless him for surviving. I've never been a fan of the concept of undercover work. You have to be phony, and gain trust of people, just to betray them in the end. You have some cops who realize that the criminals aren't as bad as they thought they were, and they turn dirty. Some things just don't mix, and need to be left alone.
According to Jay , his complaints of no protection from ATF , eventually pissed off his Supervisors because they just did not care and saw him as a nuisance. Before he knew it, they saw him as a enemy and treated him like one. edit The first legit death threat started it. The ATF took zero action and the problems snowballed from there.
@@allenh7835 I presumed it would take more than that to piss off ATF that much, but I see your point. In the culture of that profession, you don’t complain, just keep suffering through trauma and feeling unsafe, so they can put you in danger all over again. Rinse and repeat. They see it as the job he signed up for. That job is inherently unsafe. So, in other words he was kinda acting like a union rep and fighting for more protection and rights for undercover officers. He basically bruised the egos of management. They figured he got shot and didn’t sue, so he’ll continue to be the fall guy for their missions. Got it, thanks.
This usually happens because the undercover starts dabbling in the lifestyle in such a way that you become a criminal and seen differently by your peers and lose respect for you meanwhile they don't know what's it's like to work undercover
@@tannermackenzie6440 I just don’t think that was it. He was put into that role by ATF, and he never seemed to cross the line into any real criminal behavior. It wasn’t until the undercover work was done and the case was already in court that the relationship between him and ATF went sour. It just seems he wanted more privacy and respect than the organization was willing to provide. They weren’t going to let him tell them how to run the business. In other words, he thought he was more important than he really was. He was just another cop to them, while he thought he earned some clout to dictate the rules.
Why was the ATF mad at him? Because of the book he wrote? Why did they pull the back stops an put his life in danger? This guy is like a military veteran who defended this country and gets nothing in return.
I didn’t know how badly the ATF fucked him over after all the life-risking work he put in for them over decades. That’s beyond disgusting and he still has a good heart you can tell he’s a good man
He did a lot of things he wasn’t suppose to do. He was going against the book and compromised a lot of the cases against the Hells Angels. That’s why after the bust hardly any HA members were charged. The ATF wasn’t happy with his actions.
I wonder how many good ATF candidates were lost after they were turned off by seeing how Jay was treated. If that's true that the ATF wasn't loyal to Jay in the end, who would want to join up as undercover and have that to look forward to?
I love this guy he's a real fkn hero not scared and does what he has to to execute a plan and job he should be uplifted and a movie and documentary as well!! We don't get enough stories about things like this but yet some of us uplift mfkas that do dirt smh I love this interview salute to you brother!!
He has a "thousand yard stare." Look it up, it's interesting. You're witnessing it here. The result of a lot of trauma. Not just the trauma of being shot and run over, but whatever else he witnessed, his family almost burning in the fire, years of a stressful lawsuit and all that.
@@hiphopjewelsthe fire that he lit?. Flashbacks of all the brutal shit he did as a angel. Let’s not forget he was a hells angel. No one eats for free in that club. This guy did dirt no matter how hard he tries to convince us he didn’t.
The same exact thing happened to me when I got shot and I can say that the chest tube they put in my side hurt 10x worse than the gun shot itself. Under anesthesia I remember having a dream that aliens were cutting into my side with a Boade and I kept begging them to stop only to come out of it and realize it was the doctor cutting into my rib cage it was the most horrible thing I have ever experienced.
Damn I felt this! In 2017 I was hit in the chest and robbed for everything except my draws!! I believe I walked about a mile up the street and passed out infront of church! Luckily for me the pastor was there getting new security cameras installed , and he found he me and drove me to the hospital himself! He even stayed during my surgery and help contact my family. Such a nice man and I’m so humbly grateful for him being there. But during my surgery they were stuffing that tube in my chest and he told me I was begging the drs to just let me die it was so damn painful! I experienced chest pains for years afterwards! And I’ll never forget that feeling! Of pure helplessness and despair while being operated on with no family around just a stranger with a huge heart and that’s why I still have so much faith in our humanity! There’s still a lot of really good folks out here! But I’m glad you made it through that fam and is here to still tell your story that’s dope asf peace & blessings to you💯🙏🏽✌🏽
That mf tube is the worst. I was beat by the police at 16 years old. Broke ribs and COLLAPSED LUNG. The reason I had to get that tube. And til this day I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
@@jamestaylor409That's terrible, bro. I'm sorry you had to go through that. The bastards. Hope you at least got some dough out of it (but I know that's prolly unlikely. For everyone you read about who can prove the cops report is lies, there's 5,000 who get f#¢ked up beyond anything, and the cops get a ribbon and a congratulations for it. Hope you been able to try & work through how traumatic that must've been. Maybe some emotionally-focused therapy for PTSD would help if you haven't tried that. But just glad it's over & you lived. Goddamn pigs.
I hope they have someone going undercover to get my aggressive stalker, harasser, crime committing abuser. He’s been in the game so long he can fool and manipulate anyone. I need a real one to stop this creep and remove his access to me. It’s sickening.
Omg I’ve never heard a police shot 1st day on their job. Risk his and family life. Kick in the teeth by the department. God bless you sir thanks for your service
I’m glad he kept reminding Vlad certain situations And true inspired events never works off logic, common sense and hypothetically when dealing with real situations this gentleman been through is off real instincts and mind blowing intentions sometimes you just go you don’t think about the logistics of shit at these moments the choice is really on you. Raw ass interview Vlad you did that
I have only a handful of people I know that I truly believe are heroes. This guy is now one of my heroes! I have nothing but respect and admiration for this man!
I read his book 15-20 years ago- I got it from my Scottish born cousin, who is a high ranking member of the Hong Kong Police force. it’s an incredible read. I remember a nasty sounding character called ‘Rancid’, known as such because he refused to wash… I encourage anyone interested to check out his book.
At least the ATF stayed in character. They got what they needed then they turned on him. This is excatly why you dont trust or help the ATF. Just take the charge and be done
Jay is a well meaning,humble and genuine soul unfortunately he's also not the sharpest tool in the shed especially after what his own agency did to him and still believing 99.9% of law enforcement is good?
Bro, for a second there, I thought he was in a prison jumpsuit.
It is in a way ....Arizona football
Any Given Sunday@peternagy-im4be
Lmao same
Same 😂
😂 me too. I was thinking “HA HA FOO…Finally got caught up. Now he can be undercover in jail”
Imagine fighting a war only to find out that the real enemy is the people you've been fighting for not the ones you've been fighting against
Woo that hits hard. So true. Lots of veterans are homeless
Alotta people in law enforcement and military are finding that out every day.
I’ve been there! I’m an army combat veteran 31B and I did 7 deployments to Iraq/ Afghanistan and in the end the US government was the worst enemy that I ever faced.
@@spinrash6000not only military but honest police, politicians, lawyers, judges all learn the same as well when the higher ups get a whiff of someone finding their secrets
That's what General George S Patton said upon landing in Berlin.
The world's first undercover interviewer. He has mastered the term 'ok.'
My thought's exactly.
Dude the “OK’s-“ were irritating the hell out of me. He does that in every single interview.
I couldnt take it anymore
exactly dude sounds like a fucking robot. I couldn’t listen to the whole interview. Wish he would’ve done the interview with someone else. Maybe he has. I’ll go and look it up.
OK, OK OK OK OK. OK OK, not only that
he asks such stupid questions.
Ok, ok, ok….why does he want to tell the story? Dudes a terrible interviewer
New drinking game...every time the interviewer says "OK" take a shot....you won't remember the interview but you'll have had a great time. 😂
This guy is unbelievably humble. Bro went D1 to a power 5 school and had a great career full of accolades and he says that he wasn’t very good.
He just a dumb f
He really thought the government was going to stop crime and then protect him afterwards????😂😂😂😂😂😂
Guy is a Beast
You mean crack head still looking for a fix just like then because he was a failure he wasn't no great athlete why he failed and turned to drugs and ratting how couldn't they see it he's a rat all day .
It’s always the better guys who are quiet and humble, the nobodies who’ll never accomplish anything bark the loudest because that’s all they’ve got, words.
I think his brother was better
Imagine dedicating your life literally to what you perceive as doing the right thing only to find out you were working for a bunch of scumbsgs that are worse than the criminals that youve been fighting. That has to be devastating....the ultimate betrayal
Like every LEO, biggest bunch of criminals around. 1312
Happens to us in the military everyday 😂 most of us realize it early on and it is conflicting with your morals and mental health and causes tons of depression in us sad it has to happen to anyone him included
I could never understand why young men would give into the propaganda. I see it everyday, they are discarded like the plague. Lol for what ? Elites war wake the F up
Vlad’s use of the word ok after every of his guests statements is really annoying. Like he’s not listening. Ok ?
I know. It sounds like he more interested in sticking to scripted questions in the order they appear.
Exactly what I thought
Yea he has weird segue with his conversation at times.
yea it's annoying as fuck. you'd think he'd notice this after 600 interviews
I love that he is articulate, intelligent and stood by his principles...even when at times he stood alone. Huge kudos to him. 🙌
he's a known liar
@@rassoul420yup
@@rassoul420about what assoul? What has he lied aboot assoul buddy ?were you there assoul?
@@bd-ie5my WOW 🥺 You are very childish .!!!!!
Horrible principles. Enforcing unconstitutional laws although that is the least of it. Victimless crime laws and unjust kaws. Plus working for an agency which has killed many innocent children, babies, women, etc... Disgusting agency and human. Probably just an ignorant man but should that be an excuse?
What a hell of a interview. I'm happy to know that there are people like this man out there protecting us. It's crazy how you never know who these people are protecting us and you'll never meet/see them.
PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE WHAT YOU CALL ANGLES. 🙏
@@shandracrews8238🤣
@@shandracrews8238right or obtuse?
you mean like cops? doctors? firefighters? EMT's? nurses? soldiers? ....like those? Yeah...I've seen all of those. Open your mind
@@Cuckold_Cocklesgood grief. Take the stick out your arse
READ JAYS BOOK YEARS AGO. ONE OF MY FAVORITE TRUE CRIME BOOKS. THIS INTERVIEW DID NOT DISAPPOINT. BIG UPS 🙌
This guy gives off vibes like Mike, from Better Call Saul. I dig it
Right? Got like that I’ll clean it up kinda vibe like Mike
I was thinking the same damn thing
Mike was giving off Jay vibes
@@robertpesa4157jay mike creasy and I are a hell of a team :) I miss my everyone
Haha I thought it was Mike in the thumbnail
Makes you think if the Government is prepared to do that to one of their own imagine what they would do to someone they truly hate or who stands in their way 🤔🤔🤔
Don't have to imagine it...its happening right now...all-around us.
Christians and parents being investigated as homegrown terrorists, Law abiding citizens being prosecuted and fined for violating un constitutional "Rules" that are not laws, spying on political opponents...
You mean like a president they want to get rid of ?
They've certainly tried a lot so far.
Vlad after every single thing Jay says: "OhhKAYYY"
HOHKAY
O Kay he's a terrible interviewer. O Kay.
Interesting career
So annoying 😑
Because he knows he's full of shit
If every cop was like him the world would be a completely different place. What an extremely humble man
Wow, this guy sucks at giving interviews! 🤡🍆
It would be even better if there were less criminals and better citizens so we wouldn't need police, but shifting blame seems to be totally accepted these days.
The ATF did this man dirty. Shame on them.
He does all this work for our country & the ATF tries to frame him for arson!!! Unbelievable!!!
Well just look at what they did at WACO. Heck when an organization makes you start siding with a cult you know they be messing up. (Not to mention the whole Mexico gun fiasco)
Rat paid or not still a rat
Hats off to Jay and people like him. It takes guts to go up against organized crime. Cheers.
Big iron balls and yah, you have to be a certain kind of crazy.
I’ve read the book about his operation in the angels and all I can say is this man has balls of steel doing what he did he also seems like an incredibly nice guy
Isn’t this the guy that almost got caught with his recorder.. in the restroom?
The ATF is a disgusting pathetic agency though that has killed innocents and children and locked up many for victimless crime laws and unjust laws. The literally enforce unconstitutional laws too. An entire agency to enforce unconstitutional laws. This guy is by extention a horrible person.
That sounds kind of crazy, what happened @@scarface9617
He looks like he just did an 8 ball in one line
😂😂😂😂
His pupils is tiny. What kinda coke you been doin😂
This man operates from a place of humility and courage. Incredible interview. Bravo
Jay: "I was shot, almost died, my life flashed before my eyes."
-10 second pause
Vlad: "OK"
Scarface fbomb 223 times Vlad OKs 223×infinity still love him though
lol. so ridiculous. he could learn a lot rom Joe Rogan.
Exactly my thoughts. Vlad always has great guests but is horrible in interviewing and having zero interaction with his guests. Seems almost disrespectful.
Reminds me of AI, do we ever see Vlad?
@@irish80-93ok
0:47 when glad mentions the football achievements the smile on his face shows how proud the guest is of that!! 💯
I guess the bright orange Arizona University jersey would be a clue also.
Super interview. You give your guest time to talk without interruption. Key.
What a humble, and intelligent guy. All of my respect
I'm a longtime Tucson desert rat myself.....I'm 69 in '23 and lived here since 1st grade. I never met Jay....he was from the other side of town but I watched him catch many a football during his U of A playing career. This guy undersells himself......he was damn good. We're all proud of HomeBoy here....and the world would be a lot better if more people emulated his work ethic and attitude about life. God Bless him. joelintucson
whatever
Read his book years ago called "No Angel", great read! I already know this interview will be 🔥
Wild! He has a truly mind boggling story in so many ways. Should be a whole cable series on his career as a UC officer. He's being way too hard on himself for having an epic life and I doubt he's quite done with it yet. Maybe a series on corruption in law enforcement instead? Or both? All it takes is one good run JBird and you have what you need already. Much respect and keep it coming.
An HBO or Netflix series would be pretty cool. With a team of good writers and him to approve. It could be a hit.
I think he’s definitely rethought taking that settlement early on…. Much respect to him for pushing forwards with his career though
@@David_Allan_Trollhulu has it its called gangland undercover
he's lying fyi
@@rassoul420 Oh please do tell. About what?
jay is a wildly entertaining interviewee I have to say. he says everything with great conviction and everything he says just grabs your attention
He is a piece of crap. His job basically is to act like he is your friend. If you know this man on a personal level (as a friend?) - makes you wonder if he is acting, or not.
Sounds like the ATF are basically pissed off over him writing a book. Those ATF losers need the whole force disbanded for treating this man the way they did. They’re about as useless as the F.B.I.
Ehhh this guy was unmasked after he wrote a book and went public. He violated the rules first. It’s like someone paying you a bunch of money to go live in witness protection in Idaho and then a few weeks later you start a public access radio show talking about the reason why you’re in wit sec.
@saljablo2767 all 3 letter agencies are traitors to the American people!!!
I read jays book when I was 15 it was really good . Love this interview . Jays a humble cool guy . Respect
Best interview of 2023 on your platform!
The HA still swear that Jay and his partner never infiltrated them,but his story has never changed. I have seen several interviews and shows with Mr Dobbins, I have mad respect for what he’s done. Great interview
When Vlad asks about that, he says he doesn’t dispute that fact.
This is wild! He’s been through some crazy stuff.
Then he plays Mike from breaking bad years after all that happened
Man I've seen you interviewed before but I never heard about how the ATF outed you and left your butt out there on your own. That is totally F_____ up. As a civilian who worked construction and an OTR truck driver. I would have been head hunting for blood. Man have you got restraint. God bless you and yours. And thank you for your service Sir.
These are the interviews I consistently tune in to Vlad for. 🔥
God Bless you Jay
Vlad we want more federal agents interviewed! Peak content
I’ve never heard some describe a shooting as someone getting ventilated 😂😂😂 respect to this guy
Ventilated lol
😂😂😂 my first time hearing that term.
Bruh ass got aired out
Yoooooo my thoughts exactly, out of control 👀👀😂😂😂😂😂🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫
Basically buddy got aired out
Much respect to Jay. This guy was the real thing. Good to see you on this interview. Hopefully all is well. I met you and had lunch with you at a conference in San Diego back in the late 90s put on for our group outlaw m/c investigators. Be well and cheers from an original Sancatt member. Info only,not my real name on this account.
Vlad I love your interviews I learn a lot from them but how many times do you say OK during an interview just asking
He is right about people's commitment to the "CLUBS". My Uncle blue dressed up as a baby for Halloween, alongside my father as joke. They beat my uncle and my father within an inch of their life and kicked my uncle out of the "CLUB" he was in almost his whole life. Several months later he took his own life with a shotgun, leaving behind my aunt who had never worked and cousins who were barely just teenagers at the time😢. R.i.p Uncle blue I still remember you allowing me to sit on your motorcycle for the first time as a kid. Everyone stay blessed 🙏
What club was he in
Timeline is crazy lol sounds like a bunch of drunks
They kicked him out of the club because they dressed up as babies for Halloween?
You're my boy Blue
Thats the biggest load of shit I've ever heard....thanks for playing though
I knew him in HS, played against him, our rival at the time, knew several guys from Sahuaro. Years later I ran into him again, he was using a different name, had no idea who he was at that moment, zero. Then after he wrote his book I was stunned to know I knew both of him.
I'm conflicted... Not a fan of cops, but I like this fella. Seems legit, sincere and definitely tough.
What a legend. I watched this all the way through.
It’s crazy how this man did so much good for the justice system to take all these horrible people off the streets, and they just tried to do him so dirty
You say “this man…” I have a different term I like to use for his kind….. 🐖🐀🐖🐀
@@macysondheim We work for the real crooks the Gov
@@macysondheim thanks for commenting, I never knew trying to take down orginizations that kill people and really do no good at all made someone a rat, it's called a hero
@@macysondheimPig shit suits him better
@@rsoisaiah who says they do no good 😁
Let this be a cautionary tale for those who put blind faith in the government to “take care of you”.
"In my opinion, what those cops did to Rodney King was over the top..."
No shit Vlad.
Jay you didn’t make any mistake brother, you laid your life on the line to keep people safe, you did your job, 10 fold.
INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW!!! Wow great job VLAD and the Vlad TV staff 👏👏👏👏🔥
Someone explain to me why ATF unmasked his identifying information. I can't tell from the interview how his relationship with ATF went south. Based on the interview, it sounds like the Hells Angels had it out for him, put a hit out on him, and ATF for no apparent reason started treating him badly. If you can fill in the blanks, please help me out on that one. I can tell by the thousand yard stare he has, that he's witnessed some crazy stuff. God bless him for surviving. I've never been a fan of the concept of undercover work. You have to be phony, and gain trust of people, just to betray them in the end. You have some cops who realize that the criminals aren't as bad as they thought they were, and they turn dirty. Some things just don't mix, and need to be left alone.
According to Jay , his complaints of no protection from ATF , eventually pissed off his Supervisors because they just did not care and saw him as a nuisance. Before he knew it, they saw him as a enemy and treated him like one. edit The first legit death threat started it. The ATF took zero action and the problems snowballed from there.
@@allenh7835 I presumed it would take more than that to piss off ATF that much, but I see your point. In the culture of that profession, you don’t complain, just keep suffering through trauma and feeling unsafe, so they can put you in danger all over again. Rinse and repeat. They see it as the job he signed up for. That job is inherently unsafe. So, in other words he was kinda acting like a union rep and fighting for more protection and rights for undercover officers. He basically bruised the egos of management. They figured he got shot and didn’t sue, so he’ll continue to be the fall guy for their missions. Got it, thanks.
I was wondering the same thing.
This usually happens because the undercover starts dabbling in the lifestyle in such a way that you become a criminal and seen differently by your peers and lose respect for you meanwhile they don't know what's it's like to work undercover
@@tannermackenzie6440 I just don’t think that was it. He was put into that role by ATF, and he never seemed to cross the line into any real criminal behavior. It wasn’t until the undercover work was done and the case was already in court that the relationship between him and ATF went sour. It just seems he wanted more privacy and respect than the organization was willing to provide. They weren’t going to let him tell them how to run the business. In other words, he thought he was more important than he really was. He was just another cop to them, while he thought he earned some clout to dictate the rules.
No doubt, gotta appreciate people like him that sign up for dangerous situations.
Why was the ATF mad at him? Because of the book he wrote? Why did they pull the back stops an put his life in danger?
This guy is like a military veteran who defended this country and gets nothing in return.
The veteran statement you said is absolutely true.
I didn’t know how badly the ATF fucked him over after all the life-risking work he put in for them over decades. That’s beyond disgusting and he still has a good heart you can tell he’s a good man
The government and all its branches R the real criminals.
If he was smart he would of taken the millions lol
He did a lot of things he wasn’t suppose to do. He was going against the book and compromised a lot of the cases against the Hells Angels. That’s why after the bust hardly any HA members were charged. The ATF wasn’t happy with his actions.
I wonder how many good ATF candidates were lost after they were turned off by seeing how Jay was treated. If that's true that the ATF wasn't loyal to Jay in the end, who would want to join up as undercover and have that to look forward to?
just finished his book " No Angel" Amazing and well written...... I highly recommend this book if you are interested in a true story well told.
It's a good read..I agree 💯
Great and unique story. Thanks Vlad
I don't think Vlad is doing this dude justice. Really like this guy. Vlad is more enthusiastic with rappers
He's not a interviewer PERIOD..NOTE:: Certain questions he ALWAYS asks CERTAIN people that was not asked in THIS interview and many others
Vlad is a typical di** rider of the gangster bs
Vlad definitely enthusiastic about these guys too tf u mean?
I disagree.
Hard to believe that the ATF completely turned on Jay, released his info for hitters to get to him, and he still sings their praises.
He continually crossed the line during his 81 investigation, his story/book is full of lies. This dudes a BS'er.
Yeah this whole story reeks of barnyard 🐖 💩
It’s called being institutionalise
There’s plenty of stories like this happening.
@@smoovecatpack4353say it louder for the ppl in the back🎯
Dude played for a Power 5 and won All Pac 10 honors and thought he wasn't elite LOL too humble!!
I love this guy he's a real fkn hero not scared and does what he has to to execute a plan and job he should be uplifted and a movie and documentary as well!! We don't get enough stories about things like this but yet some of us uplift mfkas that do dirt smh I love this interview salute to you brother!!
I read this Man’s book… VERY VERY VERY GOOD!!!!!!
What a standup guy! Thank you for your service....Not sure I would've stayed on after getting shot once, but TWICE....Hero!
Interviewer sounds like a robot. The "Okay" every time he responds is like an ai call center program
He is a robot
Some say if you listen to the wind close at night you can still hear vlad saying “Fair enough .. fair enough .. fair enough “
Jay will always be a true american hero !!! Thank you sir .
Jay is a real guy! His book no angel is a great read- I love the sarcastic writing style!
Someone needs to do a movie on this guy
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FAST AND FURIOUS WITNESS...........BLESS AND KEEP HIM SAFE LORD....
I have never seen someone so intense they only blink 3 times in an hour interview, what a fucking legend!!!
😂😂😂😂
He has a "thousand yard stare." Look it up, it's interesting. You're witnessing it here. The result of a lot of trauma. Not just the trauma of being shot and run over, but whatever else he witnessed, his family almost burning in the fire, years of a stressful lawsuit and all that.
@@hiphopjewelsthe fire that he lit?. Flashbacks of all the brutal shit he did as a angel. Let’s not forget he was a hells angel. No one eats for free in that club. This guy did dirt no matter how hard he tries to convince us he didn’t.
He blinked a lot more than three times😂
Relax.
Thank God for people like this guy
yes, truly
This man has a lot of integrity with brass cojones to boot.
The same exact thing happened to me when I got shot and I can say that the chest tube they put in my side hurt 10x worse than the gun shot itself. Under anesthesia I remember having a dream that aliens were cutting into my side with a Boade and I kept begging them to stop only to come out of it and realize it was the doctor cutting into my rib cage it was the most horrible thing I have ever experienced.
Damn I felt this! In 2017 I was hit in the chest and robbed for everything except my draws!! I believe I walked about a mile up the street and passed out infront of church! Luckily for me the pastor was there getting new security cameras installed , and he found he me and drove me to the hospital himself! He even stayed during my surgery and help contact my family. Such a nice man and I’m so humbly grateful for him being there. But during my surgery they were stuffing that tube in my chest and he told me I was begging the drs to just let me die it was so damn painful! I experienced chest pains for years afterwards! And I’ll never forget that feeling! Of pure helplessness and despair while being operated on with no family around just a stranger with a huge heart and that’s why I still have so much faith in our humanity! There’s still a lot of really good folks out here! But I’m glad you made it through that fam and is here to still tell your story that’s dope asf peace & blessings to you💯🙏🏽✌🏽
That mf tube is the worst. I was beat by the police at 16 years old. Broke ribs and COLLAPSED LUNG. The reason I had to get that tube. And til this day I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
God DAAAAMN bro. That sounds f#¢king horrific. Glad ya survived the whole ordeal & it's all over now, f#¢k. That made me queasy just to think about
@@jamestaylor409That's terrible, bro. I'm sorry you had to go through that. The bastards. Hope you at least got some dough out of it (but I know that's prolly unlikely. For everyone you read about who can prove the cops report is lies, there's 5,000 who get f#¢ked up beyond anything, and the cops get a ribbon and a congratulations for it. Hope you been able to try & work through how traumatic that must've been. Maybe some emotionally-focused therapy for PTSD would help if you haven't tried that. But just glad it's over & you lived. Goddamn pigs.
Damn. I thought you are not supposed to feel that stuff???
That is a TRUE HERO.
I hope they have someone going undercover to get my aggressive stalker, harasser, crime committing abuser. He’s been in the game so long he can fool and manipulate anyone. I need a real one to stop this creep and remove his access to me. It’s sickening.
I love this guest. I just can’t hear OKAY one more time. I’m out to look for a different interviewer.
This was another great interview Vlad 💯.
Great interview. Man this guy hardly blinks ever.
No way, read this dudes book years ago, good story
The fact hes so humble is awesome. He says hes not that good but i bet hes better then he thinks he is
Good interview
Omg I’ve never heard a police shot 1st day on their job. Risk his and family life. Kick in the teeth by the department. God bless you sir thanks for your service
This man put his life on the line, got the ATF the Intel they needed them said you’re on your own. Man that’s cold
Why were the ATF mad at him? Why did they pull those back stops an put his life in danger?
Typical government agency. A cautionary tale for those who put blind faith in the government to “take care of you”
I’ve been procrastinating on reading this guys book. I think my procrastination is over… ordering that beauty today!!
Oh it’s outstanding. I read it when it first came out.
I’m glad he kept reminding Vlad certain situations And true inspired events never works off logic, common sense and hypothetically when dealing with real situations this gentleman been through is off real instincts and mind blowing intentions sometimes you just go you don’t think about the logistics of shit at these moments the choice is really on you. Raw ass interview Vlad you did that
You say “gentlemen….” I have a different word I use for his kind….. 🐀🐖🐀🐖
@@macysondheimtough guy
@@dadon3455 And ???? what's it got to do with you ...!!!!????????
The ATF does everyone dirty. Fact of life not to be trusted.
Dudes need a mini series
This man is sharp..
Great interview! Great dude! Your killing it bro!
Man, if he doesn't blink, he's going to give me a heart attack. Omg
I noticed the same thing 😂😂
That is crazy thanks for noticing
I thought it was just me.Who couldn’t tell he wasn’t an UC
😂🤣🤣😂🥳
He blinks 3 time at 8:30
I have only a handful of people I know that I truly believe are heroes. This guy is now one of my heroes! I have nothing but respect and admiration for this man!
Vlad should have gotten more into the Hell Angels
He knows better not too....that's one group u don't Wana hoot & holler about to much
No he should not have......and he knows it!!
I really like this guy , he shoots pretty straight in a type of work that relays on lies
I read his book 15-20 years ago- I got it from my Scottish born cousin, who is a high ranking member of the Hong Kong Police force. it’s an incredible read. I remember a nasty sounding character called ‘Rancid’, known as such because he refused to wash… I encourage anyone interested to check out his book.
Ummm you’re lying…. 🤥 the book was released in 2 February 2010…why would lie about this
@1dpick1because rancid was a Mongol....he's talking about a whole different book by a different aagent....called under and alone
Wow, his story deserves a movie! Frfr
Actually years ago the movie rights to his book was bought and Mel Gibson was to play him. Never was made for some reason.
Most comments miss the strongest point of interview, The ATF is scandalous AF 😒
At least the ATF stayed in character. They got what they needed then they turned on him. This is excatly why you dont trust or help the ATF. Just take the charge and be done
I have my own feelings about the ATF but I cannot deny that Jay Dobyns is an American Hero. Capital AH. Thank you for your service.
My man had to prove his loyalty to the Angels by doing blow one time too many
Jay is a well meaning,humble and genuine soul unfortunately he's also not the sharpest tool in the shed especially after what his own agency did to him and still believing 99.9% of law enforcement is good?
A true Patriot.Its the patriotism of the average American that still makes there country great.
Lol listening to this interview makes me wanna go back and watch Sons of Anarchy