The Hardest Punch I've EVER Experienced
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2019
- Peter Consterdine demonstrates his famous double hip punch, which is the hardest, most powerful punch I've yet experienced myself.
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Some observations from someone who has trained with Peter extensively and has a fair grasp on the method: I think a minority here need to re-watch the video if they think this is a “standard punch”. Such a statement is evidence they missed many of the points stated in the video.
Firstly, the axis of rotation is on the side of the hip, and not central as it is with most standard punching. Secondly, the kinetic chain is different in that the hip goes before the arm, and not at the same time as happens with most standard punching. If we look at basic physics, the greater the mass and the greater the velocity, the greater the impact. The link between the hip and arm ensures the most mass in motion at impact, and the greatest acceleration, hence the greatest force. There are a few other nuances too, but those are the key ones a few people seem to have overlooked. All these points are clearly made in the video, so I’m not sure why they are being overlooked. This method is markedly different from what is taught as standard … as those who have trained first-hand with Peter can attest.
It should be obvious, but I’ll make the statement any way … watching a UA-cam video of someone getting hit is not the same as getting hit :-) I’ve witnessed several hundred people get hit by Peter over the years. 100% of those people would agree with Rokas that being on the receiving end of those shots is a “road to Damascus” moment where they realise there is a whole new level of “hard” they were previously unaware of. I made the decision to become a student of Peter’s the first time he hit me. Just as Peter did when Shigeru Kimura (developer of the method) hit him.
Peter is also clear at the start that what is shown is a demonstration of the basics. The method can be used in explosive, free flowing combinations with fast and overlapping transitions. Again, this is something that all students of Peter know first-hand. Our training group consists of boxers, kick boxers, thai-boxers jujutsuka, karateka, MMA practitioners, etc. We all find the method to be highly applicable.
I hope this post is of some use and I’m sure other people with first-hand experience of the method will also help correct misunderstandings. For those who do feel this is “standard punch” and hence a method they are already familiar with, I would suggest re-watching the video with an open and attentive mind.
All the best,
Iain
I think that seeing a punch like that and feeling a punch like that really would change the way that you look on a martial art for example. The most tandible thing from having watched the punch was that he could generate the energy slowly, comparatively speaking, and still exert such force.
There's this process that needs to happen for someone trying a punch like this that the value might not seem worth the time going in: but I spent 45 minutes just rolling my hips and shifting the way that he did and I noticed a huge improvement in body connection. They really comes down to how much someone needs to be spooned fed on a topic like this. Some people need to go to 50 seminars and get all the information. Some people can do things from watching a couple videos and trying themselves. I'm not saying that I understand it after that but it's a deeper topic I need to explore.
His punch is def not a standard punch. It’s complete opposite to the stance and punch.
His ability to transfer kinetic energy and do it effortlessly is seemless. You can see it from the movement, or lack of. But it does all join up
Its definitely not a standard right cross or reverse punch very interesting demonstration
@practicalkatabunkai "If we look at basic physics, Force = Mass X Acceleration (not to be confused with speed; they are not the same thing). The link between the hip and arm ensures the most mass in motion at impact, and the greatest acceleration, hence the greatest force." Well, there may be a link between the hip and the arm, but there is none between the stated premiss and conclusion. It would be better to simply say, "Mr C provides an alternate way to punch hard. If you don't believe me, try it for yourselves." That would be preferable to throwing in random references to physics or biomechanics that say nothing upon examination.
I agree this is not like a normal punch, it is incredible how much power he is able to generate. I also think that power is not as important as some people think though, a regular straight right or left hook is enough to knock people out in most cases, especially if it hits flush and unprepared against. Bearing that in mind a person could come to the conclusion that timing and position are more important in striking than being able to generate huge amounts of power.
I contacted Peter earlier this year asking if I could train with him as a one-off, he got back in touch and offered me a private session. I travelled up to see him, took part in one of his kickboxing classes with his other students, it was a good class, they did things differently and wore very thin gloves to emphasise hitting with your two main knuckles unlike normal boxing/kickboxing. Peter took part in the class and was as fit as a guy in his 20s or 30s. I then received some one-to-one training with him where he demonstrated this strike on me as i held the pad, it was hands down the hardest strike I've ever experienced, incredible. Peter was one of the nicest guys I've ever met as well, I'll always class that day as one of my most memorable in all the years I've trained 👍
I took a weekend class with Peter and with Geoff Thompson. They focused on really simple stuff that worked in real life. One of them (I forget which one) demonstrated a punch on me, and I was holding a pad against myself like in the video. I went home a bit sore, but it wasn't until I woke up the next morning, hardly able to get out of bed, that I realised I had two broken ribs. Very impressive instructors.
Hahaha nice
Wooooww amazing bro
As someone from overseas(NZ), those of us in the know have respect for these Pommie hardmen. '' '' 'And that's saying something as we are tough nuts ourselves.
haha that is funny
Wtf he went defcon 5 on you or what
Glad it kept it simple I would hate to hear the complicated version
😂
It's actually all very simple if you focus and follow along with his description of it.
I thought it was very easy to understand when he said to imagine a wheel with your arms and hips then you reach down pull the pin from the hip, turn hip and bring stablizing foot forward to put more force than keep moving forward, grab the neck and smash his face in.
@D R Wow you're an idiot. If practice you could pull that punch out in 1 second while standing straight forward. You must be so stupid not to recognize it's a massive body punch with little prep and can be done in seconds. It just seems long because he's showing you how to do it so that you have the most power, dumbass. If he was just standing there and you approached he'd whip that punch out in the gut, you'd be gassed instantly, then fucked.
@@NoNewfriendss as simple as one chain link, and as complicated as chainmail. Lol
This is what we need. Martial artist thinking in terms of movement and using the head. Picking a simple punch and explore it.
"The end of one technique is the start of the next one." That's the true, true.
correct the fight doesnt stop till your opponent doesnt come back
@@bluenose007 it can also be predictable and unpredictable
Peter Consterdine knows what he is talking about. Him and Geoff Thompson, and a bunch of other BCA members are all ex-doormen, protection experts etc, very practical techniques. The ‘animal day’ stuff they do is hardcore, basically, suit up and beat the shit out of each other - the whole point is to see what really works in an aggressive attacker situation.
Well done @rockas for continuing to pick great teachers.
Those who think it is not a hard punch, remember that Peter is at least 65 year old, maybe already in his 70th. To punch like that at this age quite remarkable.
I'm impressed. I've never heard anyone explain a punching technique in this very mechanical way. The best part, it's quick and you don't see it coming. It's like a locomotive cam shaft.
I thought the same thing, and wished I had seen this a long time ago! It's all in the hips!! Fluid motion translates to greater power.
Still rocking it at his age... Amazing
Yeah the man is in his 70s and has clearly looked after himself, he can still wallop at his age which is a testament to his teacher and his own dedication.
What a delightful Man! I don't know how old he is, but he's a Great teacher! He's able to impart his knowledge with eloquence and clarity and keep the learner completely engaged and focused on the technique(s) he's imparting!
Definitely well spoken and easy voice to follow.
Yes his voice sounds like a British school educational video lol
He is in his early 70s, he was born in the late 1940s IIRC.
Fantastic information. Thanks for your time!
Great video and great to see Mr Consterdine still teaching after all these years. I still have one of his books from the 90s (Fighting Fit)
Great to see Sensei Kimura’s technique being demonstrated and explained. In essence it’s a slingshot of the shoulder which accelerates the punch. Awesome when you can do it. Impact work is still my favourite 👊🏻
Same here Philip, I trained with my kimura for yrs here in New Jersey, the man was years ahead of him time.
Kimura war mein Grossmeister. Urs Spörri, einer seiner Schüler schon in South Afrika, war und ist mein Lehrer. Kimura hat diese Technik sein ganzes Leben lang, er wurde 56 Jahre alt, weiterentwickelt.
Really look like a college physic lecture, such a great gentlemen
This is amazing dude. Nice edit. The slow mo was great.
Great video. I've been a martial artist for 40 years, mainly boxing and self-defense for the last 27, and this is wonderful stuff!
similiar here brother, 42 yrs continuous practice.... boxing and martial arts... began at age 18, im 60 now... I agree, great stuff!
I once held a pad for Peter at a seminar in the late 90’s, I thought I’d been hit by a car!
Did you hold them as poorly as this guy?
It could have been a car but you weren't paying attention.
Peter and Geoff both hit like a train.
I was lucky enough to hold the pads for Mr conderdine many forget trains and cars no body can hit that but Mr conderdine hits harder than anyone I ever trained with
Exactly 😂😂❤
This is absolutely awesome. I love every concept and the smoothness of his actions
Two thumbs up Rokas. Keep ‘em coming.
Oh my goodness, I’m glad you put “hardest punch” and “Peter Consterdine” in the same sentence. I’ve experienced it and felt like it ripped my soul out haha. These guys know how to modernise the mechanics of traditional MA practice
check out Maul565 [on YT] for some of the best footwork and body motion I have ever seen in 40 years of martial arts.
Big fan of Consterdine's partner Geoff Thompson. Strongly recommend his videos. These guys know what they're doing with self defense and karate
Thats right Im agreed with you
I’m totally nerding out here!!!
This man is a serious scholar of empty handed martial technique/pedagogy. May not be a great fighter (he's an old man, after all), but that's not the point. The real brilliance is is the fine understanding of efficiency of motion and the focused point of contact. He addressed up the high levels of understanding the japanese karate term "kime", the Chinese "soft style/internal" application, the more modern understanding of the "kinetic chain", AND the academic martial artists' understanding of stance all in one video.
This man is serious.
Bingo, spot on!
Makes me laugh that you equate old man to not a good fighter. HILARIOUS 🤣🤣🤣
He may be an elderly gent but he'd do more than hold his own in a fight...I'd say he'd fuck somebody up right & proper. He is extremely well versed and a great teacher. I agree with you. He's a serious cat no doubt.
He's peter fucking consterdine. He can fight
'He's an old man after all..lol, he'd probably hand you your ass..lol.
Excellent concepts with application. I’ve taught striking similar to this for a long time. The issue with most coaches in teaching these concepts is that they never learned them. I explain the striking as a sequence of things happening with the right timing. Leverage from floor into rotating ankle to rotating hip , elbow and only then allowing the fist to release into target. Properly done, the student will feel a hitch in shoulder as if an elastic band was released on the hook punch. Most coaches teach turning all the body parts at once. If properly done, the punch becomes much less telegraphic as a bonus, and require less distance for power. One way to think of this is that each rotation adds mph to your strike. If the motion is smooth and unimpeded the result is the sum of all those mph into your target. Another bonus is not having to load the leg as much with each punch, allowing for better balance and recovery. Btw, these same concepts apply to kicks, just in different sequence. Shoulder rotates before hip, etc.
This guy is just great. And he is for real! I really enjoyed him together with Geoff Thompson
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
Good shit. Keep these coming, man.
I've tried this technique and it really does make a hell of a difference.
Agreed. Punching power is all about proper momentum transfer. Using the whole body like a spring is the first thing you learn in boxing.
Excellent simplicity. 👍🏻
This video was enlightening....thank you
Lovely looking technique. Fast and powerful. Very nice. Love that hip action.
"The bad Elvis" is what we used to call this movement.
Brilliant. I was taught almost exactly the same by Grand Master Kwang Jo Choi. Thank you Peter.
Wow! Great evolution and understanding from this man. A lot to think about there.
An excellent video!!! Finally, now you are into the awesome staff (in my opinion). How to cultivate the most efficient movement the human body can make in order to produce the most power out of it. This happens through internal integration of the body and this is exactly what the so-called "internal martial arts" teach (when taught properly of course). Also similar principle with "kinetic chain" of the Russian striking systems. The first time I was introduced into those concepts was from Dr. Kacem Zoughari from Bujinkan Ninjutsu back in 2005, and it took me many years to finally get a grasp of those ideas. In classical Japanese methods of war, there is the concept of Seichusen (the central axis) and how to transfer it exactly as Mr Consterine describes, from the vertical center of the body to the shoulder-hip-knee side. This concept might be found under the term "nanba aruki" - ipsilateral movement.
Your previous understanding of what "traditional" MA is, was flawed. Yes Rokas, now you are in the deep waters :-)
OMG! I thought I would have arguments from my Wing Chun training.... BUT, this is almost exactly how traditional Wing Chun punch works!!! That chain punching is popular but not right as you see it done on most yt vids. "You use body weight and not the 5 pound arm" has been said to me by several masters you probably haven't heard of. Thank you so much for this! If you've ever felt the "arrow of force" Pierce through you by a guy half you're weight you know there are valuable pearls in the flowery mess of tradition. One 60 yo master just pretty much tapped me and my lip bled. Thank you thank you for searching for truth where you find it!
Yep it's classic turning punch tactics. It's the best thing about wing chun. Simple but direct and powerful body mechanics
@@KungFuKing166 like walking a washing machine even if it's full of water. That full body "choo choo" locomotion 😅
Love it! Great explanation. Thanks!
Nice breakdown
Thanks for this video. Peter Consterdine and Geoff Thompson are two absolute gems when it comes to practical martial arts experience, and both are so genuine and friendly.
This concept of strikes like a whip is a classic in many martial art since century. The body of a human is the same for all human. No more finding possible. Only find again. And forget again...
I had the chance to interview Geoff Thompson last year. He is an amazing guy. Now more in the philosophy than fighting. But got the chance to ask him about self defense - ua-cam.com/video/g5HwFu-By8w/v-deo.html
Fantastic
I find it tiring when so many of your videos are this doesn’t work etc. So happy to watch an excellent video on your channel. Well Done!
So that a lot of my videos came across as negative. I am doing my best to move away from that paradigm :)
@@MartialArtsJourney it’s clear your an intelligent thoughtful person 👍. I think you should try a bare knuckle boxing match and make a video on it.
That’s really good. Training different dynamics of punching except just 1 kind of way is important for martial artists.
Too many get stuck in 1 way.
Great stuff.
You could also disguise that left hip movement with a jab or a feint id you're worried about telegraphing.
Haven't heard the name Peter Consterdine in years. Glad he's still around and sharing his knowledge.
PLEASE, do see if you can have this gentleman on again for further demonstrations and deeper context of this, and any other useful techniques as well. This was extremely informative. Thank you.
This was certainly the best martial arts lesson i ever had.
Trained in Shukokai Karate for 20 years. Respect Sensei
Woooowww
Kimura !!!
I'm gonna teach this to all my oponents.
Nice!!!
This is a fantastic concept and application . Love that it's great to see Chinese martial art concepts being used more and more by coaches
I've had the privilege of training with Peter, a true gentleman and a beast in the combat arts!!!!!!!
I love those training moments where you get hit or thrown in a new way or by a different person and your response is "DO THAT AGAIN!, and again...Whilst smiling like a lunatic. Followed immediately by "I need to learn everything about that please." Where as I think most folks outside of the Martial arts would say "thanks, once will do" :)
Ace stuff, thank-you to you both.
Ohhh Goood i know the feeelibg
I remember that time. Got choked out for the first time in training and thought it was the greatest thing ever. Promptly used it on others and it felt wonderful.
Like getting a new toy when you were a kid.
Combination of punches with double hip is the most interesting part!
Its straight up Xingyiquan
I thnik so, but this is the Russian Systema Basics
Awesome teacher
So cool. Amazing video.
This guys hip mobility is so fluid, sharp, and surprising esp because of his age. He would be a great salsa dancer.
Jajajajajajajaj is true brother
This is incredibly interesting. He is formulating the punching technique that appears in Xingyi Quan called Beng Quan, but the thing that reveals that he is pretty much brilliant is that he performs the technique with such naturallity that it blows my mind. I find really hard to perform that strike and this man just does it all the time!
Thanks for the content Rokas!
Yes, similar to Beng Quan here!
Shall we consider his 60+ years of exeprience in martial arts?
Bin kang shing bang put him in a cage and watch him get murdered.
Thank you for your time
Kind of brings to mind Erle Montaigue's teaching about fajing. Thanks for helping me remember some good times practicing that hip shake.
While he's a Karate guy, he's actually demonstrating a lot of qualities a Wing Chun practitioner should have in his punch. He even angles his fist in a similar way.
Tendon strength through joint placement
@Robban bobban, peter train wing chun as well.
That's exactly what I thought. Hes got his own twist on it but it's still using the basic rooting and transferring energy concepts in WC and Tai Chi
@@yodaone5764 WC and TC are like very different... lol
That are simply the Russian Systema Basics for punching@@risennation1239
As a 25 + years martial artist practitioner ( Thai boxing and the last 10 years FMA), I still learned something today. Very clearly explained btw.
And at some of you : Don't challenge and old man, he might not want to fight and just kill you ;-)
This guys really good,I’m not just saying that .very knowledgeable and trained man who has a legitimate answer and explanation for every question asked
"Just a punch mate" 4Head - Really grateful for the upload. A blessing to the UK
A lot of what he is saying here correlates with what I am learning in Wing Chun, especially with how a circular shape is the most powerful force and the relaxation with it, Great video!!
Cuz it's gotta be brought back to you so you can feel better about yourself
Daaaaamn sorry you feel that way 😂I seen the comments of people mentioning and explaining what martial art there practicing so I did the same?
@@iamlukemcardle People hate on wing chun, you will see this everywhere. Best not engage the UA-cam warriors and just do your best at whatever you do.
@@theredninja2817 I think a lot of MA students try to equate/compare techniques from different styles/arts/teachers with what they've already been taught, to contextualise and understand them. Learning typically entails trying to assimilate new knowledge into current.
However, sometimes it's useful to approach such techniques with a fresh perspective, unburdened by what you think you know.
awesome!!!
this is "one of" the best videos on how to generate power I've ever seen.
use a set up,
make sure to stay totally relaxed and only tens up at the last minute and dont hyper extend.
Why did you put _one of_ in quotations?
Loved it!
I’ve always just naturally used this method and others similar to it and I will say that this works unbelievably well! This method is definitely an equalizer for smaller guys! It’s so cool to see somebody else doing this👍🏻
in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
yeah.. technique and applications are 2 different matters... techniques were never the problem on classical martial arts.
Man praise GOD for this video! Eye opener and also confirming of what I thought about self defense. Thank you Rokas!
Man’s a legend
Had the genuine pleasure and honour of exchanging this technique with the man himself around 10+ year ago and also utilising it in 20+ year long career, I can attest to its effectiveness. I can also attest to Peters delivery as being something well above average. An amazing person, teacher and martial artist.
I remember Pete from the old WADO RYU dojo in Manchester. He has quite a background in Karate, and one of the hardest punchers,
The way your head moved when hit said it all
I always get headaches after holding for Peter :-)
Yeah. Amateur.
Fantastic!
Very cool !!! Thx
Woah this guy knows a lot!!! Learnt some useful things
Never underestimate an old guy who knows martial arts .. nice one Peter 👍🏼🙏🏼👊🏼
Principles of motion. Thanks for sharing.
Good technique. Both the punch and slap this way are great for a initial strike in a defense situation
9:38 Stockton Slap
Within this technique, you can see elements of wing chun, systema as well as Karate. Which basically is more proof that all styles have elements to offer in the general paradigm of martial arts or fighting. Excellent.
Totally agree
Looks a lot like Shukokai, There's some video of Sensei Kimura demonstrating much the same thing in the 80's. In my onion if I left my head that open I'd get knocked the out though, so this would very much be limited to counter punch.
@@Jennifer-dw8hl Is this Kimura video still live on UA-cam? Curious which one. Pete did train under him, after all!
@@joenatale5513 That would explain the commonality wouldn't it. ua-cam.com/video/TlYok3A09HA/v-deo.html
@@Jennifer-dw8hl :-D
Thanks for this great video. I need to watch it over and over. I love that if you ran into him on the street, and looked at him w/ his gray hair etc., you would never think much of him at all. Ordinary looking regular guy. But I would never want to fight him, wow.
Would like to see a comparison with measuring equipment found this interesting ima try it
Done a seminar with Mr Consterdine & Thompson about 20 years ago in Coventry, he had them pad then. Hits like a mule for a older chap.
This seems interesting, I've never seen a kinetic chain on that axis used for a punch, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work
Definitely gonna test that out and play around with it
And that's how seminars make money off you
Mcdojo
@@markusdemerius8993 I'm not sure what you mean
I've had the opportunity to train with Peter Consterdine and to hold the pad for him when he executed double hip elbow strikes. The sensation was like what I imagine being hit by a train might feel like. The power was penetrating and different from anything I'd ever experienced when someone hit me.
Have fun testing and playing! (A playful approach is exactly right for this one, imho.)
@@jon...5324 what i mean is unless he shows this in sparring in a sressful situation everything he is saying is just theory and not applicable, it's something every mcdojo uses to sell "secret" techniques
@Markus Demetrius et al, the piston punch and power slap that Peter C. demonstrated are meant to be used as preemptive strikes for proactive street self-defense and not for give-and-take/back-and-forth sport sparring. When used with deception and surprise, the piston punch to the solar plexus will put an adversary down in pain, gasping for breath, sapping his will to fight; and with the power slap, this shot will clinically knock an adversary out like a good left hook to the jaw would. It’s all about context of application.
absolutely superb technique.
Two very gentle warriors. A pleasure to watch and learn from.
I think there is a misconception being purported here. While I fully agree that this is one great way to generate power in punches by adding one's body weight, I don't like that he's saying it the only way to do it.
There is more than one way to get all of one's weight into a strike. Shifting weight away from the back leg and over the front foot is only one way, and one that can be countered by pulling.
One can also lift the front the foot and essentially fall into punches. Which eliminates the pulling counter. Side stepping and redirecting are the answers in this case.
Another is the taichi method of whole body shifting. This defense is more subtle and goes beyond a mere few sentences. The bottom line is that there is a proper tool for every situation, and this is but one of them.
The dynamics of the vertical punch are found in Kenpo . Let’s not forget the striking zone . It’s along the centerline . With all of the principals of this strike in line and on target it can be devastating. I have dropped a few people in real time with this strike . I credit you for this video . The best one you have done
It's not about whether the punch is vertical, it's about the mechanics of moving body mass to transfer as much energy into the opponent as possible.
The mechanics shown have little to do with the centreline, and they work just as well for delivering hooks and slaps.
This was awesome.
That turning of the foot thing is something that's both very very evident and prominent in both Wing Chun and boxing
Leading the tool rather than following may be a way to generate power. In fact it is. But it's also an enormous telegraph. It's like watching a pitcher wind up a fastball.
If a boxer led with his hip like this he'd eat a defensive jab before the punch had passed his ribs. You can still apply the hip pivot and force from the extensor muscles of the back leg if you initiate the movement with the striking hand and follow the tool, your timing just has to be more precise.
I have no doubt that a punch like this is devastating if it connects. When I was twenty, my flying sidekick was devastating, but I only ever connected with it once when I fought a guy who always opened with an axe kick, so I knew exactly where he would be. I'm not a good deal more confident that a punch this telegraphed would have a higher success percentage than my old flying side kick.
I know, I know. I'm the only guy here who thinks this. I'm okay with that. I always had power, but never the speed of someone with a preponderance of quick twitch muscles. So I always had to worry about economy of motion and not telegraphing my technique.
It's only used for pre emotive strikes ,not match fighting. You're missing the context.
scarred10 aye what you said. Someone stomping up to get in your face to attack you would walk on to it
Who was the older gentleman Explaining these techniques. I would love to find more from him. Thank you for the knowledge
Peter Consterdine
I've seen this video before...this is much older than 6 months..didn't take notice then will definitely will now!!!
Amazing technique
Feels mildly like systema, how do you work this with a hands up boxing stance? Also, would the principle work better with a bladed stance overall? Like bill Wallace has?
Pretty sure it's designed to be applied _not_ in a formal stance, e.g. working a door, but I would think a looping overhand right or a hook would work just as well with maybe a slight change in the angle your weight is going.
But if you get into a boxing stance that negates the best feature if this, which is that it can be done without revealing your intention to throw a punch...by getting into a stance
@@mackhomie6 But he telegraphs the coming punch very early and long before the hit can reach the destination by pulling the arm back - i don't see any effectivness in that technique in a real situation where your opponent is looking at your every move. Boxers would dodge it to the left and counterpunch with a low uppercut to the jaw.( Easy to hit from under that hand and his weight being forward) Most judokas or jitsu practitioners would also probably try to sidestep it to the left but instead of an uppercut you would be getting your hand grabbed then transitioned to a neckchoke over the back of your head and after that theres a hundred ways it can go... i would advise against trying something like that unless you get a serious moment of surprise on someone. It's a risky technique.
@@henriht1147 you are correct in that if the other guy is watching for a punch already, this is not the way to go.
this was never intended for a ring fight and is instead a means of generating the most power at the expense of speed (surprise), which is why it's considered a bar fight punch, but an impressive one. that said, I look to people's feet to see if they're getting ready to throw one and this would certainly have worked on me
if that sounds contradictory, I'm trying to highlight he difference in footwork, but acknowledge that there's more of a set up _overall_
I would like to see some impact force measurements of this type of punch versus a standard boxing style straight punch. My hunch is that the boxing style straight would win. I would love to be disproven though.
I think this style is faster and therefore would dominate.
You may or may be right. I don't know. However the key point is the body dynamics. If you can do the straight right punch with the right dynamics, it's gonna be really powerful. It might be a bit different in a different kind of punch, but the basic principles he's talking about are going to be good in any punch. I feel maybe the issue of which one is harder might not necessarily matter so much because they're both hard enough to do the job.
That's the thing though, it's not necessary just the force that's so devestating but also the delivery. Like systema for example that weird looking punch is basically optimized for transferring as much energy as possible and having it sit heavily in your target vs trying to smash it outright. The main difference is this kind of punch is specifically designed with the element of how it effects your mechanical systems and your pain receptors so instead of one hard fast sudden hit that packs a wallop but you can kind of shake off this hit it almost feels like all that force hits you and lingers for a second and permeates.
The transition from one strike to another strike is how I was trained ,the was no standard competition, it was train to win , it was survival at all cost
That was awesome.