Hello everyone and thank for watching my video! Feel free to leave your thoughts and questions below! Some have asked good questions and raised good points, I do not want to overshadow the point made by Optimum and highly suggest you watch his video on the new software updates, and highly suggest checking out his other videos. He goes into in depth science backed analysis of the things I am only glancing over. Again thank you❤️
Honestly, by your logic, wouldn't features like a polling rate over 1000Hz be considered "scripting" as well? Keyboards, much like mice, require firmware to operate. The SOCD (Simultaneous Opposite Cardinal Directions) feature is a functionality provided by that firmware, not some form of unfair advantage or "scripting." Every piece of hardware today, whether it's a keyboard or a mouse, relies on firmware to deliver its full potential. If we start labeling the SOCD feature as cheating, then we would also need to consider high-polling rate mice, adjustable DPI settings, and even customizable macros as forms of "scripting." These are all advanced features enabled by firmware to enhance user experience. Calling SOCD cheating undermines the purpose of having advanced functionalities in our devices. It's about providing users with better control and responsiveness. If we consider SOCD to be an unfair advantage, then any modern enhancement in our peripherals could be viewed in the same light. It's all about leveraging the technology available to create a better and more efficient gaming experience.
High polling rate mice are extremely held back by human use. It comes down still to a user and their input. If you have good aim and get a higher pulling rate mouse you’ll still have good aim and vise versa. Also if you watch the channel of the video I pinned at the start he goes into great detail why polling rate does not really matter in FPS video games and can even hinder you. Hardly any pros care about it and still play on low pulling rates. I actually looked into this a lot recently due to buying a new mouse. My mouse is capable of being faster but I do not care. I think what you are talking about is something I briefly touched on in the video. Yes, there is a fine line between what gives you a reasonable advantage and what gives you an unreasonable advantage. Technology is great. Pulling rates don’t make you better than 99% of players and eliminate muscle memory for a game. I also touched on how this is not game breaking for most games, sadly the way CS works and is played this absolutely shatters the lower end of the skill ceiling while begging people to buy $200 keyboards. In my opinion companies should be more considerate of software and hardware capabilities. We’ve gone on for 20 years in CS before a company like wooting drastically changed how keyboards can work, BUT it didn’t break the game and allowed for human error. What you’re arguing is what people are joking about all over right now. Might as well install software that aims my mouse better for me, might as well use a monitor that has AI and makes the game easier for me without having to do anything at all. It’s just too far and ridiculous. It’s hardly a feature, it’s a hardware script. The same reason companies back in the day like Activision banned certain controllers from even being recognizable on XBOX, it broke the games people were playing by abusing code in the game with inhumane capabilities in the form of scripts.
Actually, macros other than jump throw in cs pro scene is indeed considered as cheating. SOCD and razer's snap tap is considered cheating as well because it is a built in script that cancels out the input of the user when there is another input. Human can do this manually by practicing but these scripts cancels out the human error part. Anyway, despite your disagreement on it being script, I can foresee the future of faceit and esea's anticheat detecting the perfect counter strafe made by players who use these features and bans them as their counter strafe input are exactly same every time thus indicating a script being used.
@@justin2751 One jump throws are binds and not scripts. Two jump throws have been (in writing) legalized within competitive CS. Otherwise you are semi-correct in your statement. Not to mention I think with how important they were in GO it was necessary because it wasn’t like CS2 where you could jump throw without the bind consistently.
one of the only videos i can find on it so far, I'm trying to find like the best way / case to use this in? during a peak then spam the opposite key? kinda confusing to get used to lmao
@Vulces I appreciate you watching and responding. The best implementation will be counter strafing like normal however there is no more specific input required on the counter key. So just tapping the key depending on the actuation point will completely stop all movement and make you as accurate as possible. Hence eliminating muscle memory. The spam tapping I was showing was to prove how accurate/OP this feature really is, I can hold down A and be moving technically always and still shoot accurately just by tapping D at the right time or spamming it.
@@nassolious Yeah that makes sense, it feels way better to normal counter strafe with it on as well, pretty much like you said. Thanks for the explanation
This is a difficult topic. I get the argument that SOCD is something that should be regulated by the game itself, not the hardware. That being said, I do have a Wooting 60HE. Rapid Trigger (key being deactivated when released) did make a small difference, I then tried their rappy snappy (the key being pressed the furthest is active) and it didn't make a real difference and lastly, I've been trying the SOCD and honesty... I don't think it makes any difference. Though, as I must state, I am not on the lower end of skill. Lvl 10, a few thousand hours, yaddayadda. So I suppose that might play a role, since I am so used to counterstrafing properly. I understand that some might consider it "pay2win" but honestly... Counter Strafing is pretty easy to learn and if you can't do it then buying one of those keyboards won't help you much either. There are so many different mechanics and skills to learn in CS (raw aim, crosshair placement, macro and micro positioning, communication, teamwork, utility and so on) that the very small advantage SOCD *might* give you... it isn't really that big of a deal. That is my personal opinion, not a fact.
@@nassolious except more configurable and more like an external script. I wish they didn't release this. Close to impossible to detect just like null binds. Also dumb fucking feature that'll get idiots to spend $250 on a mediocre keyboard that'll have issues within a year (Razer specifically) Obviously banned in ESL/Blast just like null binds but wonder what Faceit is going to do
I do not believe there will be any consequences for this feature in online games. Tournaments might ban this feature. But that's it. If a keyboard is breaking the rules of a game by simply releasing all other keys while pressing the latest one, then that is the game dev's problem. I have been playing CS since GO and counter strafing while it is a very good mechanic, was going to be automated anyday, and it has finally happened now with hardware.
@@befano691 thanks for typing! A lot of people think this was created in response to CS. Its not. It is simply a feature within keyboards that was just patched into them via software, this is a script via hardware. This is a problem that arrives solely in the way that CS is built and played for over 10+ years, so in a way your opinion in that “this is the devs problem” is somewhat right but in my opinion it falls apart at the fact this is how CS is intended to be played. It creates levels of play and separates great players from average. I could somewhat agree with you that this was bound to be a problem, however it already was a problem and has already been handled. Bhop scripts, null binds, and others have been frowned upon in the CS community for a long time, and some banned, which I bet you know. I like how you used the word automated, it’s a great word to represent why this is a big deal in the fact it’s not a human that is inputting this, it’s a computer script. We should never let the computer play the game for us they should simply be tools we sit at. This argument would work great in Valorant because that’s how it’s already coded, there is no counter strafing.
The issue is that it's actual human input that it operatos on... not a script. It depends on the hardware the actuation point and how it transmits the movement... which will be seen as a enhancement to how you control. Now there is a case where you could say oh yeah it's a skill that needs to be learned by the game, but now as hardware have become more adaptable to what you actually want to do it's obvious that it will be allowed because the actuation point and how it is handling the input of the user is based of the user. I don't see how they will end up banning this from tournaments.. I believe I will see more keyboards adapting to this kind of input instead as it's intended for gaming and we know what people want for gaming. For comparison... on controller in Apex legends they literally have software which gives the aim-assist... now that is a cheat and they allow it just so controller users can feel they are as good as mouse and keyboard users which is literally the dumbest move I've seen if it's intended for a skilled game.
@@bequiorra human input being “click a button” and get perfect movement is not good. Also this technology doesn’t care about your actuation point. Sure if it’s faster it maybe helps but people liked the low actuation points to get more control over movement, and relied heavily on actual human experience to the game, like making decisions, forming muscle memory, and just adapting. This is not that. This is scripting, and FRAME BY FRAME PERFECT MOVEMENT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE without the script, null. Just because you have to press a button doesn’t make it not, scripting has been in cs for over a decade and it was used with buttons then from software, and now it’s used with buttons updated from software to hardware. There is zero difference in the technical analysis of this technology. It’s exactly that, almost every pro and anyone who knows what they are talking about agrees, even from the original reviewer Optimum. This is an unfair advantage, forces a corner in the market, drawing consumers to $200 keyboards when people have been learning cs and getting by for decades without this. It’s cheating in almost any game outside of CS and FPS games. No one wants this who has any decent amount of hours in the game, decent skill, and value for the games culture. This doesn’t make you better, it creates the illusion that you’re better, which is the real problem.
Could you please tell me if this technology will be available on wireless keyboards in the near future? Or is a wired connection required for this? Thank you.
you are gonna feel its bad on normal keyboards because the wooting and those acutaor switches acitvate and know within nanoseconds. compared to the what .5ms it takes to press switches past the activation point. its awesome from a hardware pov
great video bro, just because its on the hardware level doesn't mean its not scripting from a third-party soucrece this is already embedded in the keyboard.
I didn’t realize I’ve been counter strafing wrong this entire time I hold a then keep holding a and d while I counter strife. Does this keyboard fix that?
To be fair you were just shooting the deagle too rapidly after turning off SOCD before the recoil reset. But still SOCD gives you so much more control over the game its rediculous. Although it does make counterstrafing easier it still doesnt make flicking and crosshair placement easier and if you dont time your shot with your counterstrafe it will still be inaccurate. It also allows for a different kind of stutter step aim to be consistent which pros dont currently use so this could change the aiming meta. While I think this makes higher level counterstrafing accessible to lower skill players, I also feel like pros will adapt and find new ways to use this movement that still requires skill and can seperate the best from the rest movement wise. Time will tell but this is certainly meta defining.
the feature works like this: press and hold A, then press D, when D gets pressed, the input for your A key is ignored, even though you are still holding down the A key. When you release D, your A key reactivates because you're still holding A down. The idea of using like this in the video is just to show how the actual feature works, when in-game you're obviously not walking around holding A or D and tapping either key constantly. However it definitely does give an advantage, the zero-ing time for your crosshair after you jiggle peek to start shooting is noticeably faster, I have the wooting myself and you can definitely feel how much faster it is, and how much easier it is to pickup. This is because without this feature, you are relying on muscle memory to time your jiggle with a or d key, but here the feature automatically turns off either key when it detects the other key has been pressed, it does this instantly with no delay like you would have from timing it yourself. I have 11000 hours and have played CS for most of my life, i'm not sure I go as far to say it's broken, but the muscle memory required for jiggling isn't really there anymore if you have this feature, for matchmaking on valve servers, this will be allowed, I don't see valve caring to do anything about it. As for faceit, it's already bannable you can go lookup recent faceit posts on it, i assume ESEA will follow suit, tournament organisers have also already stated it's a bannable offense. This will only be something you see in MM.
@@Vehzx great response thank you! You are correct in your last sentence but it makes me extremely worried for the future of CS. If every casual player who gets into the game thinks they need a $200 keyboard compete it’s a problem.
@@nassolious agreed, same can be said for cutting edge 540hz displays, it’s just what happens when new technology is uncovered, although with features like this they are in their own category of sorts. I don’t own a 540hz, only 240hz, but I’ve been able to play on a 540 before, and the difference is night and day, it was almost like looking through a window. In time keyboards with this feature, rapid trigger, DKS, etc will get cheaper and be available to a wider audience. If valve care enough they can hard patch this within the game but I’m doubting it
@@nassolious yeah the only 540hz you can get right now are TN/lcd panels, with the current 360hz oled panels i hear the response times are unbelievable, sub 0.1ms, which i think is why pros use them, because 360hz vs 540hz isnt a huge jump, but oled response time is incredible compared to lcd/tn
@sqoopo Thanks for replying, the main reason I think this new feature on keyboards is broken is because it eliminates muscle memory from the game. Something I didn't get the hang of, until roughly 2000+ hours into the game, can now be replicated in 1 hour of practice from brand-new players. CS is a game that while simple at its core is fundamentally difficult to master. These little things have separated the top talent from the rest of the player base. If everyone can replicate that feeling it won't feel special anymore, again IMO.
@@DiffGeoTopo exactly. I hate that, but that’s my opinion. Thats why CS players say aiming is so easy in valorant and this takes a lot of the fun/impressive skill out of CS.
@@nassolious I'm a valorant player myself (don't play a lot and this was the only game i came across) and i tried cs when socd wasn't out yet and I was struggling lol. These games have a big skill gap
i see it like it was gonna happen someday anyway. yes its not the same as it was supposed to be but to keep it competitive they need to find a way to stop it or make the game harder in some other sense or just reduce how op jiggle is.
@@sKtorielVal thanks for asking, this does not help in Valorant due to Valorant not having counter strafing and aim not being necessarily tied to it. I suggest watching the pinned video I linked at the start. He goes into much better detail and shows the science behind how this works and show the very minimal effect it has on Val!
@@finlandiaperkele8381 wooting has the exact same feature. However I do not think this feature will be around and supported for long with how much controversy is around it. Wait a few months and see what happens.
@@finlandiaperkele8381 it’s a software update for the hardware. Every keyboard has software nowadays that allows customization. You can edit things save it to the hardware and never touch the software again if you prefer.
Can i assign any different key rather than than A and D in SOCD/Snap tap? just in case if someone plays with different binds (i play with arrow keys xD).
@@abhinavjaiswal7462 I am not sure about this. Arrow keys maybe, but I think I saw somewhere that said it’s only A and D or side to side movement keys.
@@L15l713 that can be your opinion but counter strafe movement has been a thing ever since GO was released so in that since Valve didn’t mess up on CS2. Does CS2 feel worse? For sure, but this doesn’t “fix” anything in my opinion and just abuses scripts to gain an advantage in the game. Razer didn’t release this with the intention being for CS it works across all video games some more than others. Being that you have 8.2 k hours this feature is not for you, me or players that have knowledge and experience in CS. This is for new players, at least on CS.
Yes it makes the cs2 better and feel more like csgo. But only limited to players who have this feature on thus giving other players a disadvantage. Btw, you can use a null bind cfg to get the same result yet it is prohibited in pro scene. I was faceit level 8 back then in 2019 and stopped playing after cs2 released. 2k hrs in game.
there was a bind script to basically "desubtick" and it was the same machanic, but valve fixed it via update i think since 3 or 4 days ago. So you cant use these scripts anymore without buying one of the razer or wooting keyboards
etethere are binds for it and you can use those in normal matchmaking (premier, competetive) but you will get banned for it on faceit since it is considered cheating. They cant do anything against it being on the hardware though
@@inputvol.280 shhhh little bro. You're cranky. It's time for you to go to bed. Tomorrow you'll go and look up the rule set regarding binds on faceit and tournaments and then you'll realise that nullbinds are not allowed. Not on faceit, not in tournaments. Now you go get some sleep little bro, because you're being very cranky.
I dont play csgo i’d use this on literally everything else but hey I get where ur coming from if stop and aim is the whole point of the game then yeah this is basically cheating it literally lets u nudge walk n shoot. Pretty busted. My original intention was to use this keyboard setting to help adjust to keyboard and mouse coming from console. But I’m Ngl apart of me feels bad about the idea of using tech others wouldn’t be able to use until they upgrade the gear they use. But then again it’s kinda like using a high end setup verse a potatoe setup.
There's an open source my buddies working on, its public on github it's called snapkey, it's really well designed and I have the actual razer keyboard, it's not that much better than using the github snapkey on a bad crappy laptop keyboard
@@xdca thanks for asking, you can kind of see them in the video. The only thing I really have changed is my wasd changed to .5 and rapid trigger functionality is turned on. Some other keys have longer ones which is the number on the key you see in the video.
This just lower the skill gap evenmore. Cs 2already a noob friendky game where you run and still can hit shot. Ggwp im gonna be pro literally next month😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"breaks Counter Strike" - yeah you sound like 100% cs2 player using razer or wooting keyboard .... btw snap tap or socd kinda weird, i do much better when turning it off
@@nassolious nope .... you fear of some noobie with snap tap make strafing so easy for them, while you spend over 5k+ hours to master strafing skill ... so you hate snap tap, you feel it not fair for you
@@TamLe-oq5gi I said exactly what you said in your first comment basically in the video. “I don’t like socd, it feels weird, I’d prefer to play the way I’ve mastered to play over 5000 hours” I do think it’s unfair that my time to master such things just as everyone else has had to do for 20 years is now gone with a script software. You are acting like you know me, and you’re also assuming that only new players will use this??? This script and hardware will only be more lethal the more experienced you are.
Hello everyone and thank for watching my video! Feel free to leave your thoughts and questions below! Some have asked good questions and raised good points, I do not want to overshadow the point made by Optimum and highly suggest you watch his video on the new software updates, and highly suggest checking out his other videos. He goes into in depth science backed analysis of the things I am only glancing over. Again thank you❤️
null binds are now allowed in face it. i just tried it and it's insane lol
Honestly, by your logic, wouldn't features like a polling rate over 1000Hz be considered "scripting" as well? Keyboards, much like mice, require firmware to operate. The SOCD (Simultaneous Opposite Cardinal Directions) feature is a functionality provided by that firmware, not some form of unfair advantage or "scripting."
Every piece of hardware today, whether it's a keyboard or a mouse, relies on firmware to deliver its full potential. If we start labeling the SOCD feature as cheating, then we would also need to consider high-polling rate mice, adjustable DPI settings, and even customizable macros as forms of "scripting." These are all advanced features enabled by firmware to enhance user experience.
Calling SOCD cheating undermines the purpose of having advanced functionalities in our devices. It's about providing users with better control and responsiveness. If we consider SOCD to be an unfair advantage, then any modern enhancement in our peripherals could be viewed in the same light. It's all about leveraging the technology available to create a better and more efficient gaming experience.
High polling rate mice are extremely held back by human use. It comes down still to a user and their input. If you have good aim and get a higher pulling rate mouse you’ll still have good aim and vise versa. Also if you watch the channel of the video I pinned at the start he goes into great detail why polling rate does not really matter in FPS video games and can even hinder you. Hardly any pros care about it and still play on low pulling rates. I actually looked into this a lot recently due to buying a new mouse. My mouse is capable of being faster but I do not care. I think what you are talking about is something I briefly touched on in the video. Yes, there is a fine line between what gives you a reasonable advantage and what gives you an unreasonable advantage. Technology is great. Pulling rates don’t make you better than 99% of players and eliminate muscle memory for a game. I also touched on how this is not game breaking for most games, sadly the way CS works and is played this absolutely shatters the lower end of the skill ceiling while begging people to buy $200 keyboards.
In my opinion companies should be more considerate of software and hardware capabilities. We’ve gone on for 20 years in CS before a company like wooting drastically changed how keyboards can work, BUT it didn’t break the game and allowed for human error. What you’re arguing is what people are joking about all over right now. Might as well install software that aims my mouse better for me, might as well use a monitor that has AI and makes the game easier for me without having to do anything at all. It’s just too far and ridiculous. It’s hardly a feature, it’s a hardware script. The same reason companies back in the day like Activision banned certain controllers from even being recognizable on XBOX, it broke the games people were playing by abusing code in the game with inhumane capabilities in the form of scripts.
@@nassoliousSo at the end of the day your opinion is made for you by pros.
@@Dubulcle you’ve worded that weird. My opinion is strongly affected by the pro scene.
Actually, macros other than jump throw in cs pro scene is indeed considered as cheating.
SOCD and razer's snap tap is considered cheating as well because it is a built in script that cancels out the input of the user when there is another input. Human can do this manually by practicing but these scripts cancels out the human error part.
Anyway, despite your disagreement on it being script, I can foresee the future of faceit and esea's anticheat detecting the perfect counter strafe made by players who use these features and bans them as their counter strafe input are exactly same every time thus indicating a script being used.
@@justin2751 One jump throws are binds and not scripts. Two jump throws have been (in writing) legalized within competitive CS. Otherwise you are semi-correct in your statement. Not to mention I think with how important they were in GO it was necessary because it wasn’t like CS2 where you could jump throw without the bind consistently.
one of the only videos i can find on it so far, I'm trying to find like the best way / case to use this in? during a peak then spam the opposite key? kinda confusing to get used to lmao
@Vulces I appreciate you watching and responding. The best implementation will be counter strafing like normal however there is no more specific input required on the counter key. So just tapping the key depending on the actuation point will completely stop all movement and make you as accurate as possible. Hence eliminating muscle memory.
The spam tapping I was showing was to prove how accurate/OP this feature really is, I can hold down A and be moving technically always and still shoot accurately just by tapping D at the right time or spamming it.
@@nassolious Yeah that makes sense, it feels way better to normal counter strafe with it on as well, pretty much like you said. Thanks for the explanation
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This is a difficult topic. I get the argument that SOCD is something that should be regulated by the game itself, not the hardware. That being said, I do have a Wooting 60HE. Rapid Trigger (key being deactivated when released) did make a small difference, I then tried their rappy snappy (the key being pressed the furthest is active) and it didn't make a real difference and lastly, I've been trying the SOCD and honesty... I don't think it makes any difference.
Though, as I must state, I am not on the lower end of skill. Lvl 10, a few thousand hours, yaddayadda. So I suppose that might play a role, since I am so used to counterstrafing properly.
I understand that some might consider it "pay2win" but honestly... Counter Strafing is pretty easy to learn and if you can't do it then buying one of those keyboards won't help you much either. There are so many different mechanics and skills to learn in CS (raw aim, crosshair placement, macro and micro positioning, communication, teamwork, utility and so on) that the very small advantage SOCD *might* give you... it isn't really that big of a deal.
That is my personal opinion, not a fact.
@@allhailthecore3136 thanks for commenting
Same here. I'm a God in DM but can't play with it in a real game. I'm too quick.
To me this just seems like the old kz null binds but on a hardware level
@@x3rt816 yes that’s exactly what it is
@@nassolious except more configurable and more like an external script. I wish they didn't release this.
Close to impossible to detect just like null binds. Also dumb fucking feature that'll get idiots to spend $250 on a mediocre keyboard that'll have issues within a year (Razer specifically)
Obviously banned in ESL/Blast just like null binds but wonder what Faceit is going to do
This video popped off, good shit Nassol 😤😤😤
@@TheGoldenLegendz Thanks G😎
I do not believe there will be any consequences for this feature in online games. Tournaments might ban this feature. But that's it.
If a keyboard is breaking the rules of a game by simply releasing all other keys while pressing the latest one, then that is the game dev's problem. I have been playing CS since GO and counter strafing while it is a very good mechanic, was going to be automated anyday, and it has finally happened now with hardware.
@@befano691 thanks for typing!
A lot of people think this was created in response to CS. Its not. It is simply a feature within keyboards that was just patched into them via software, this is a script via hardware.
This is a problem that arrives solely in the way that CS is built and played for over 10+ years, so in a way your opinion in that “this is the devs problem” is somewhat right but in my opinion it falls apart at the fact this is how CS is intended to be played. It creates levels of play and separates great players from average. I could somewhat agree with you that this was bound to be a problem, however it already was a problem and has already been handled. Bhop scripts, null binds, and others have been frowned upon in the CS community for a long time, and some banned, which I bet you know.
I like how you used the word automated, it’s a great word to represent why this is a big deal in the fact it’s not a human that is inputting this, it’s a computer script. We should never let the computer play the game for us they should simply be tools we sit at. This argument would work great in Valorant because that’s how it’s already coded, there is no counter strafing.
@@nassoliousWdym there’s no counter strafing in Valorant. Would you say it’s beneficial to use SOCD in Valorant?
@@G3ca_ there’s no point in this technology for Valorant and Optimum goes over that in his video.
The issue is that it's actual human input that it operatos on... not a script. It depends on the hardware the actuation point and how it transmits the movement... which will be seen as a enhancement to how you control. Now there is a case where you could say oh yeah it's a skill that needs to be learned by the game, but now as hardware have become more adaptable to what you actually want to do it's obvious that it will be allowed because the actuation point and how it is handling the input of the user is based of the user.
I don't see how they will end up banning this from tournaments.. I believe I will see more keyboards adapting to this kind of input instead as it's intended for gaming and we know what people want for gaming.
For comparison... on controller in Apex legends they literally have software which gives the aim-assist... now that is a cheat and they allow it just so controller users can feel they are as good as mouse and keyboard users which is literally the dumbest move I've seen if it's intended for a skilled game.
@@bequiorra human input being “click a button” and get perfect movement is not good. Also this technology doesn’t care about your actuation point. Sure if it’s faster it maybe helps but people liked the low actuation points to get more control over movement, and relied heavily on actual human experience to the game, like making decisions, forming muscle memory, and just adapting. This is not that. This is scripting, and FRAME BY FRAME PERFECT MOVEMENT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE without the script, null. Just because you have to press a button doesn’t make it not, scripting has been in cs for over a decade and it was used with buttons then from software, and now it’s used with buttons updated from software to hardware. There is zero difference in the technical analysis of this technology. It’s exactly that, almost every pro and anyone who knows what they are talking about agrees, even from the original reviewer Optimum. This is an unfair advantage, forces a corner in the market, drawing consumers to $200 keyboards when people have been learning cs and getting by for decades without this. It’s cheating in almost any game outside of CS and FPS games. No one wants this who has any decent amount of hours in the game, decent skill, and value for the games culture. This doesn’t make you better, it creates the illusion that you’re better, which is the real problem.
Could you please tell me if this technology will be available on wireless keyboards in the near future? Or is a wired connection required for this? Thank you.
@@EvgenyElbert not sure if any are wireless now but most likely in future.
You should make the game volume louder next time so I can hear the keyboard
Seems like you can’t play cs2 anymore with this feature out it kicks you for “input automation”
you are gonna feel its bad on normal keyboards because the wooting and those acutaor switches acitvate and know within nanoseconds. compared to the what .5ms it takes to press switches past the activation point. its awesome from a hardware pov
great video bro, just because its on the hardware level doesn't mean its not scripting from a third-party soucrece this is already embedded in the keyboard.
I didn’t realize I’ve been counter strafing wrong this entire time I hold a then keep holding a and d while I counter strife. Does this keyboard fix that?
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@@tylersmith9868 how bad is that? Maybe explains why I’m faceit level 8 XD
I’ve been doing that 😢
To be fair you were just shooting the deagle too rapidly after turning off SOCD before the recoil reset. But still SOCD gives you so much more control over the game its rediculous.
Although it does make counterstrafing easier it still doesnt make flicking and crosshair placement easier and if you dont time your shot with your counterstrafe it will still be inaccurate. It also allows for a different kind of stutter step aim to be consistent which pros dont currently use so this could change the aiming meta.
While I think this makes higher level counterstrafing accessible to lower skill players, I also feel like pros will adapt and find new ways to use this movement that still requires skill and can seperate the best from the rest movement wise.
Time will tell but this is certainly meta defining.
@@CdnMoose3482 I was shooting the deagle quite slow in both tests. I was moving in my strafe and was use to the SOCD
So this is why I've been playing against insane people recently. (assuming they're not cheating, in 18k+ lobbys)
lol bought this keyboard a while ago cause it was dope. Never knew it would turn into this. Cats out of the bag. We are so fucked.
what if u stop pressing a or d? is it sort of the same effect?
the feature works like this:
press and hold A, then press D, when D gets pressed, the input for your A key is ignored, even though you are still holding down the A key. When you release D, your A key reactivates because you're still holding A down.
The idea of using like this in the video is just to show how the actual feature works, when in-game you're obviously not walking around holding A or D and tapping either key constantly.
However it definitely does give an advantage, the zero-ing time for your crosshair after you jiggle peek to start shooting is noticeably faster, I have the wooting myself and you can definitely feel how much faster it is, and how much easier it is to pickup. This is because without this feature, you are relying on muscle memory to time your jiggle with a or d key, but here the feature automatically turns off either key when it detects the other key has been pressed, it does this instantly with no delay like you would have from timing it yourself.
I have 11000 hours and have played CS for most of my life, i'm not sure I go as far to say it's broken, but the muscle memory required for jiggling isn't really there anymore if you have this feature, for matchmaking on valve servers, this will be allowed, I don't see valve caring to do anything about it. As for faceit, it's already bannable you can go lookup recent faceit posts on it, i assume ESEA will follow suit, tournament organisers have also already stated it's a bannable offense.
This will only be something you see in MM.
@@Vehzx great response thank you! You are correct in your last sentence but it makes me extremely worried for the future of CS. If every casual player who gets into the game thinks they need a $200 keyboard compete it’s a problem.
@@nassolious agreed, same can be said for cutting edge 540hz displays, it’s just what happens when new technology is uncovered, although with features like this they are in their own category of sorts.
I don’t own a 540hz, only 240hz, but I’ve been able to play on a 540 before, and the difference is night and day, it was almost like looking through a window.
In time keyboards with this feature, rapid trigger, DKS, etc will get cheaper and be available to a wider audience. If valve care enough they can hard patch this within the game but I’m doubting it
@@Vehzx A lot of pro players who can play on 540 do not. So I would be interested to see how drastic the change is myself like you did.
@@nassolious yeah the only 540hz you can get right now are TN/lcd panels, with the current 360hz oled panels i hear the response times are unbelievable, sub 0.1ms, which i think is why pros use them, because 360hz vs 540hz isnt a huge jump, but oled response time is incredible compared to lcd/tn
tbh its not broken at all kinda just something to make it easier
feel like the skill ceiling of getting it perfectly everytime tho is so high which is genuinely scary
@sqoopo Thanks for replying, the main reason I think this new feature on keyboards is broken is because it eliminates muscle memory from the game. Something I didn't get the hang of, until roughly 2000+ hours into the game, can now be replicated in 1 hour of practice from brand-new players.
CS is a game that while simple at its core is fundamentally difficult to master. These little things have separated the top talent from the rest of the player base. If everyone can replicate that feeling it won't feel special anymore, again IMO.
This setting basically makes cs movement like valorant lol
@@DiffGeoTopo exactly. I hate that, but that’s my opinion. Thats why CS players say aiming is so easy in valorant and this takes a lot of the fun/impressive skill out of CS.
@@nassolious I'm a valorant player myself (don't play a lot and this was the only game i came across) and i tried cs when socd wasn't out yet and I was struggling lol. These games have a big skill gap
i see it like
it was gonna happen someday anyway.
yes its not the same as it was supposed to be
but to keep it competitive they need to find a way to stop it or make the game harder in some other sense
or just reduce how op jiggle is.
Do you think this would be effective for valorant?
Yes, it’ll help with microstrafing and general movement
@@sKtorielVal thanks for asking, this does not help in Valorant due to Valorant not having counter strafing and aim not being necessarily tied to it. I suggest watching the pinned video I linked at the start. He goes into much better detail and shows the science behind how this works and show the very minimal effect it has on Val!
How come i do not have this SOCD on my wooting 60+he and how do i activate it to test?
@@1deagedepo you have to go into their beta wootility online and initialize your wooting and update it.
@@nassolious the company can not forcefully revert the update though could they?
@@akooma3694 They could roll back the software yes. Very unlikely now
Hey just a tip. Next time please make game sound lower, as I can barely hear your voice. Other than that, great vid
@@elvissirovatskis9251 thank you for the feedback!
should i still get the razer keyboard for snaptap or is wooting as good with this update?
@@finlandiaperkele8381 wooting has the exact same feature. However I do not think this feature will be around and supported for long with how much controversy is around it. Wait a few months and see what happens.
@@nassolious the razer keyboard snaptap doesnt work without the same kind of software update?
@@finlandiaperkele8381 I believe so.
@@nassolious just watched Optimum's take, and he said that the razer snaptap works on hardware level so i guess it works without the software
@@finlandiaperkele8381 it’s a software update for the hardware. Every keyboard has software nowadays that allows customization. You can edit things save it to the hardware and never touch the software again if you prefer.
Can i assign any different key rather than than A and D in SOCD/Snap tap? just in case if someone plays with different binds (i play with arrow keys xD).
@@abhinavjaiswal7462 I am not sure about this. Arrow keys maybe, but I think I saw somewhere that said it’s only A and D or side to side movement keys.
@@nassolious could you please confirm (with left arrow and right arrow) if you own one? nice and simple explanation video btw
@@abhinavjaiswal7462 it looks like you can apply them to any key. You can only pick two keys tho
@@nassolious You checked in SOCD right? (or Snap tap?), thank you
@@abhinavjaiswal7462 I googled because I don’t use SOCD and I’m away from my computer
VALVE released a bad game
RAZER fixed the game.
i have 8.2k hours in this game, faceit lvl 10, Premier 22k. Good thing released by razer
@@L15l713 that can be your opinion but counter strafe movement has been a thing ever since GO was released so in that since Valve didn’t mess up on CS2. Does CS2 feel worse? For sure, but this doesn’t “fix” anything in my opinion and just abuses scripts to gain an advantage in the game. Razer didn’t release this with the intention being for CS it works across all video games some more than others. Being that you have 8.2 k hours this feature is not for you, me or players that have knowledge and experience in CS. This is for new players, at least on CS.
Yes it makes the cs2 better and feel more like csgo. But only limited to players who have this feature on thus giving other players a disadvantage. Btw, you can use a null bind cfg to get the same result yet it is prohibited in pro scene.
I was faceit level 8 back then in 2019 and stopped playing after cs2 released. 2k hrs in game.
is there a way to make some sort of SOCD script and use it for a regular keyboard?
there was a bind script to basically "desubtick" and it was the same machanic, but valve fixed it via update i think since 3 or 4 days ago. So you cant use these scripts anymore without buying one of the razer or wooting keyboards
etethere are binds for it and you can use those in normal matchmaking (premier, competetive) but you will get banned for it on faceit since it is considered cheating. They cant do anything against it being on the hardware though
@@allhailthecore3136 stfu its just a nullbind script, tf2 has it since release and its allowed
@@inputvol.280 shhhh little bro. You're cranky. It's time for you to go to bed. Tomorrow you'll go and look up the rule set regarding binds on faceit and tournaments and then you'll realise that nullbinds are not allowed. Not on faceit, not in tournaments.
Now you go get some sleep little bro, because you're being very cranky.
Null-bind scripts. But these are considered cheating for games like csgo
I dont play csgo i’d use this on literally everything else but hey I get where ur coming from if stop and aim is the whole point of the game then yeah this is basically cheating it literally lets u nudge walk n shoot. Pretty busted. My original intention was to use this keyboard setting to help adjust to keyboard and mouse coming from console. But I’m Ngl apart of me feels bad about the idea of using tech others wouldn’t be able to use until they upgrade the gear they use. But then again it’s kinda like using a high end setup verse a potatoe setup.
CAN YOU GET BANNED FOR USING SOCD IN CS2 BANNED BY VAC OR FACE IT OR OVERWATCH?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????
@@movies1yt it’s undetectable but frowned upon by the community.
@@nassolious even if it is detectable would it be bannable
@@movies1yt if they could detect these easily it would be banned in a snap
@@nassolious Consider the fact that it is literally script that do the same input when counter strafe, I can see it being detected in the future.
@@nassoliousyo is there any updates is this bannable now can u get vac banned or banned on face it for using this or will they ban u in the future
can i use this with a normal keyboard
@@CesrR-kf8zv unlikely in the future
Just get a null bind cfg, it is the same but free. You can find one on youtube.
There's an open source my buddies working on, its public on github it's called snapkey, it's really well designed and I have the actual razer keyboard, it's not that much better than using the github snapkey on a bad crappy laptop keyboard
Play a real match, I want to see it in a real match. 😊
I tried this socd its awful really i wouldnt use it personally
hey can i have ur wooting profile code or whats ur wooting settings?
@@xdca thanks for asking, you can kind of see them in the video. The only thing I really have changed is my wasd changed to .5 and rapid trigger functionality is turned on. Some other keys have longer ones which is the number on the key you see in the video.
@@nassoliousthanks
why cause you're silver? learn how to play the game properly.
@@phearstahh2245 nd I’m def not silver “phearstahhh” LMAO
@@phearstahh2245 hello silver
this game is so laggy wtf
I have deleted faceit and steam accounts n quit gaming. Why gaming if you dont know whos clean and whos not, specially in CS.
This just lower the skill gap evenmore. Cs 2already a noob friendky game where you run and still can hit shot. Ggwp im gonna be pro literally next month😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"breaks Counter Strike" - yeah you sound like 100% cs2 player using razer or wooting keyboard .... btw snap tap or socd kinda weird, i do much better when turning it off
@@TamLe-oq5gi did you watch the vid?? Because my entire video is about how I hate it, don’t support it, and don’t use it. Pay attention brother
@@nassolious nope .... you fear of some noobie with snap tap make strafing so easy for them, while you spend over 5k+ hours to master strafing skill ... so you hate snap tap, you feel it not fair for you
@@TamLe-oq5gi I said exactly what you said in your first comment basically in the video. “I don’t like socd, it feels weird, I’d prefer to play the way I’ve mastered to play over 5000 hours” I do think it’s unfair that my time to master such things just as everyone else has had to do for 20 years is now gone with a script software. You are acting like you know me, and you’re also assuming that only new players will use this??? This script and hardware will only be more lethal the more experienced you are.