There is a common misconception about wether you move the monkey or the stage, what’s actually happening is that you are moving the monkey and the stage is standing still, there is a game mechanic called stage tilt, it creates the illusion of the stage moving when you move the monkey, if you play SMB1 or SMB2 with debug mode enabled, you can turn stage tilt on and off.
I've never played any of the SMB games prior to Banana Mania, and even I had a gut feeling that something was off with the way the movement felt while I was playing through the story mode.
I also agree taking out lives was a good idea for single-player (especially because every run has a mission that says to complete it in under a certain amounts of deaths) but i think they should add them again when and if they make local multyplayer
So on the money with this. This was a big part of childhood gaming with my siblings. Was so ready to relive the glory days with the fam. Guess I'll be digging out my Gamecube instead. Sad. What a poor way to serve such iconic games. Hope the mod community can fix some of this on PC. I'm fucked on console.
@@paperseagull4297 The touch screen controls are solid, not that hard to get used to. There's also a 3DS hack that uses the that console's analog nub that's solid
@@yoshimallow No placebo! It's actual 360 control that allows you to sneak, walk, and run without the run button There should be a GBATemp post by shoco about it if you search up "SM64DS circle pad patch"
@@yoshimallowpretty sure thats the default behaviour for all DS games, to allow the circle pad to be used like a D-pad. But people have also made actual patches to enable the circle pad to work with proper 360 degree input to these games.
When did the original music pack come out? I recently bought this deluxe edition and it came with the option for all the original songs… I don’t think I could fathom playing it without those tunes
This video is 1000% correct about the remake I'm surprised you didnt mention the overly tilting stages/camera in it, its so disorienting compared to the original
I prefer the originals, of course, but the remake is just more Monkey Ball for me. It doesn’t replace the originals, but I still think it’s great. If it played exactly like the originals, I wouldn’t have bothered. It’s just different, and the longer it exists, the more we’ll develop new strats for the new engine. I’m just glad they’re on the right track with this and Rumble.
Finally some mention hiw crazy they move inside a fast ball THATS WHAT I MISS I miss wheb im going fast and turning the monkey in the ball start to rotate and spin all kinds of ways
Agree they missed the mark on some of the details, but gotta applaud it for the attempt to get back to form. There is one great song on the soundtrack (unfortunately only one), Volcanic Magma, check it out.
I loved Smb 1 and 2 but since the wii-games there were this change in art design with this more childish and more plastic „lazy“ look and i cant stand it 😞 The rearranged music here is bland and even if i have to buy the DLC-classic-music there is the problem with art design…so no buy for me (unfortunately)
I played the originals. I played the remake. And I'm saying this take is a load of garbage. It seems to me that your hate stems from *checks notes* The graphics and the sound effects aren't the same...? Do I have that right? Which I'm chalking up to nostalgia blindness. The gameplay is the same. the levels are the same. This is the same game as before with a fresh coat of paint and I'm really not entirely sure why you seem to have such a vitriol towards it other than 'it's not the original'
I’ll fight tooth and nail in saying that this remake is very very different. The mechanics are different and gameplay is affected by such. Rolling feels off and I mean feels, meaning inputs are vastly different and me playing a level side by side will definitely have a different sloppier result. Also they destroyed the mini games monkey target does not work. Monkey bowling has overcompensating spin so you can even use that right either. I love monkey ball. Heck I love monkey ball jr on the gba. I was just more sad with the changes and how gameplay is in the remake.
Even as someone who never played a lot of Monkey Ball post-Banana Blitz and onwards (and also as someone who thinks the difficulty balancing in SMB1 could use a LOT of work (yes i'm yet another person that got walled by Exam-C)), I can't not see Banana Mania as a soulless recreation hoping to cash in on the same hype brought in by the originals. The originals were superb, Jr. was okay for what it was trying to be, Touch and Roll was also great *if you ignore the touch screen and just use the d-pad* , I haven't played enough of Adventure to hate it as much as other fans, but tbh I at least respect it for trying something new and failing as opposed to Super Monkey Ball 3D which is just Banana Blitz again but even worse. And I owned 3D before I even owned SMB1 (though i had Deluxe on a modded xbox), so if this was the Banana Blitz era at its worst, and its best doesn't look that much better, then what's the point in putting faith in a remake that is just a Banana Blitz in Sheeps clothing.
Honestly the only remakes that fit my standards are Fire Emblem Echoes, Link's Awakening, Pokemon HGSS and REmake. Remakes are 99% of the time soulless cashgrabs
The fact that Boiling Pot has dubstep music in Banana Mania makes me unreasonably upset. I've been playing Super Monkey Ball 2 on Dolphin, I installed a mod that turns 2 into Deluxe so I could get the first game's stages and Ultimate difficulty on a "gamecube." I tried actual Deluxe on a PS2 emulator and *holy 30fps with twitchy controls and lag, batman*
yea you're just complaining to complain I'm one of the ogs biggest fans and even though I think they're superior, the remake is just as stellar as those, hell I managed to get all the medals on SMB1's missions,, its a great game,, just a weird remake. But it's not bad, you're just really salty imo
Just be happy that Banana Mania was a huge step in the right direction. Now we’ve got Banana Rumble whose levels are reminiscent of the original two games.
Ok, your review is good but your video fell flat for me. Your language was uncalled for and so out of place. This game is a kids game and you dropped so many F bombs and vulgar language that you just came off as a word that I cannot type out of my comment wants to stay on YT.
If you liked this game then you really should seek out the OGs, either on original hardware or emulation, they are immaculate games (and you can play the main game with your friends too!)
I dunno, I kinda feel like you're expecting a perfect recreation of the games... It shouldn't really be. Not always of course, there are some valuable points, but what can I say, I get the vibe you didn't like some of the changes just because they were changes. Still a good video though
If you were porting games to modern hardware, wouldn't you try to keep them as accurate as possible? Who are you to change the intent of the original creators?
Which part is the unreasonable bit? This video tells me he's angry because the sound effects and graphics are not the same ones he has nostalgia for (which is to be expected, if you're releasing the same game with a new coat of paint, then why complain about the paint?). That's about the only complaint of substance I can find after reading between the lines.
@@ChiefMedicPururu Deluxe's biggest issue is the loss of the rolling sound, which isn't actually a big deal If you're talking about the 30 FPS and much worse graphics, those are exclusive to the mediocre PS2 version, the Xbox version is 60 FPS with almost all GCN graphics retained (the only thing missing is some reflection effects being missing)
There is a common misconception about wether you move the monkey or the stage, what’s actually happening is that you are moving the monkey and the stage is standing still, there is a game mechanic called stage tilt, it creates the illusion of the stage moving when you move the monkey, if you play SMB1 or SMB2 with debug mode enabled, you can turn stage tilt on and off.
I didn’t know about that debug mode, that’s interesting!
@@TurnstyleVideo yeah, I know quite a bit about monkey ball due to the fact that I am a monkey ball rom hacker.
I heard you actually control the gravity around the ball.
is the control in this switch game also just "off"? doesn't feel right?
@@TurnstyleVideoA new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble
I've never played any of the SMB games prior to Banana Mania, and even I had a gut feeling that something was off with the way the movement felt while I was playing through the story mode.
I also agree taking out lives was a good idea for single-player (especially because every run has a mission that says to complete it in under a certain amounts of deaths) but i think they should add them again when and if they make local multyplayer
So on the money with this. This was a big part of childhood gaming with my siblings. Was so ready to relive the glory days with the fam. Guess I'll be digging out my Gamecube instead. Sad. What a poor way to serve such iconic games. Hope the mod community can fix some of this on PC. I'm fucked on console.
That SMB bit was reeeeeeeally good, well done!
Honestly Touch n' Roll is goated. I think the structure of playing through 10 levels on set of lives is the most fun way of playing.
Playing SMB1 and 2 stages with the D-pad is hell lol. The music rocks though
@@paperseagull4297 The touch screen controls are solid, not that hard to get used to. There's also a 3DS hack that uses the that console's analog nub that's solid
'start passing around the wavebird" LOLLLLLL yesssss
dude how tf do u not have more subs and views, so well made. Idek abt super monkey balls. Great vid man👍
Haha thanks a lot! We appreciate the love!
A new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble@@TurnstyleVideo
I really like your voice and eloquence. This is a great video overall!
Ey, don't diss Touch N Roll. You know full well you can use the D-Pad.
There's also a 3DS patch that lets you use the Circle Pad with full analog control
@@ToaderTheToad Was it an actual patch or is it just the 3DS emulating the d-pad through the Circle Pad to create a placebo effect
@@yoshimallow No placebo! It's actual 360 control that allows you to sneak, walk, and run without the run button
There should be a GBATemp post by shoco about it if you search up "SM64DS circle pad patch"
@@yoshimallowpretty sure thats the default behaviour for all DS games, to allow the circle pad to be used like a D-pad. But people have also made actual patches to enable the circle pad to work with proper 360 degree input to these games.
This was an awesome review. And I agree, Monkey Billiards from SMB2 is incredible with one of the best songs from the franchise.
ever watch a gem of a video that reflects your own frustrations out of curiosity years later
When did the original music pack come out? I recently bought this deluxe edition and it came with the option for all the original songs… I don’t think I could fathom playing it without those tunes
This video is 1000% correct about the remake
I'm surprised you didnt mention the overly tilting stages/camera in it, its so disorienting compared to the original
I haven’t seen anyone talk about the game really. I was planning to get it eventually though, until I saw this vid.
Yeah if you have the means to play the original Super Monkey Ball you should make time for that instead
@@TurnstyleVideoA new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble
I prefer the originals, of course, but the remake is just more Monkey Ball for me. It doesn’t replace the originals, but I still think it’s great. If it played exactly like the originals, I wouldn’t have bothered. It’s just different, and the longer it exists, the more we’ll develop new strats for the new engine. I’m just glad they’re on the right track with this and Rumble.
A new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble
You gonna talk about the new monkey ball?
I found the assist mode prompt in banana mania so annoying that I made a mod to disable it.
These are great videos keep it up !!!
Thank you very much, we appreciate it!
@@TurnstyleVideoA new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble
Finally some mention hiw crazy they move inside a fast ball THATS WHAT I MISS I miss wheb im going fast and turning the monkey in the ball start to rotate and spin all kinds of ways
Amazing video. You deserve way more viewers!
Thank you!
@@TurnstyleVideoA new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble
Agree they missed the mark on some of the details, but gotta applaud it for the attempt to get back to form. There is one great song on the soundtrack (unfortunately only one), Volcanic Magma, check it out.
I wish they would fix the camera.
You described the issues perfectly, nicely done
Monkey ball would be a great series today if they would have just made good games up until now. They did this to themselves
I'm kinda blown away by the number of comments that just sort of.... missed the *entire* point of the video
Which was?
Best series review ever! I think if they'd kept making good sequels SEGA would force them to make them forever
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I loved Smb 1 and 2 but since the wii-games there were this change in art design with this more childish and more plastic „lazy“ look and i cant stand it 😞
The rearranged music here is bland and even if i have to buy the DLC-classic-music there is the problem with art design…so no buy for me (unfortunately)
I played the originals. I played the remake. And I'm saying this take is a load of garbage. It seems to me that your hate stems from *checks notes* The graphics and the sound effects aren't the same...? Do I have that right? Which I'm chalking up to nostalgia blindness. The gameplay is the same. the levels are the same. This is the same game as before with a fresh coat of paint and I'm really not entirely sure why you seem to have such a vitriol towards it other than 'it's not the original'
No
No bonk
I’ll fight tooth and nail in saying that this remake is very very different. The mechanics are different and gameplay is affected by such. Rolling feels off and I mean feels, meaning inputs are vastly different and me playing a level side by side will definitely have a different sloppier result. Also they destroyed the mini games monkey target does not work. Monkey bowling has overcompensating spin so you can even use that right either. I love monkey ball. Heck I love monkey ball jr on the gba. I was just more sad with the changes and how gameplay is in the remake.
It is not as bad as you think, do not listen to this if you like SMB Banana-Mania
Even as someone who never played a lot of Monkey Ball post-Banana Blitz and onwards (and also as someone who thinks the difficulty balancing in SMB1 could use a LOT of work (yes i'm yet another person that got walled by Exam-C)), I can't not see Banana Mania as a soulless recreation hoping to cash in on the same hype brought in by the originals.
The originals were superb, Jr. was okay for what it was trying to be, Touch and Roll was also great *if you ignore the touch screen and just use the d-pad* , I haven't played enough of Adventure to hate it as much as other fans, but tbh I at least respect it for trying something new and failing as opposed to Super Monkey Ball 3D which is just Banana Blitz again but even worse.
And I owned 3D before I even owned SMB1 (though i had Deluxe on a modded xbox), so if this was the Banana Blitz era at its worst, and its best doesn't look that much better, then what's the point in putting faith in a remake that is just a Banana Blitz in Sheeps clothing.
Thanks for the breakdown. I was thinking about getting it
come back and make a video on banana rumbleeeee
It might seem crazy what I’m bouta say
Honestly the only remakes that fit my standards are Fire Emblem Echoes, Link's Awakening, Pokemon HGSS and REmake. Remakes are 99% of the time soulless cashgrabs
Super Mario 64 DS should be on that list. It was a fantastic remake.
Kirby Super Star Ultra was also a great remake.
This isn’t though, kinda
The fact that Boiling Pot has dubstep music in Banana Mania makes me unreasonably upset.
I've been playing Super Monkey Ball 2 on Dolphin, I installed a mod that turns 2 into Deluxe so I could get the first game's stages and Ultimate difficulty on a "gamecube." I tried actual Deluxe on a PS2 emulator and *holy 30fps with twitchy controls and lag, batman*
Hey there
good soup, good vid
Thank you so much!
@@TurnstyleVideoA new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble
yea you're just complaining to complain
I'm one of the ogs biggest fans and even though I think they're superior, the remake is just as stellar as those, hell I managed to get all the medals on SMB1's missions,, its a great game,, just a weird remake. But it's not bad, you're just really salty imo
Its the artstyle / vibe
You’ve gotta stop calling the PS2 version an “enhanced port”. It’s trash.
Is it not identical minus the ball wobbling sound lol
@ Hell no. It’s 30fps, which throws the whole thing off. XBOX version is good.
Just be happy that Banana Mania was a huge step in the right direction. Now we’ve got Banana Rumble whose levels are reminiscent of the original two games.
Ok, your review is good but your video fell flat for me. Your language was uncalled for and so out of place. This game is a kids game and you dropped so many F bombs and vulgar language that you just came off as a word that I cannot type out of my comment wants to stay on YT.
Same language i use when attempting the master stages
This was my first monkey ball game and I loved it, if you wanted the originals then play them
If you liked this game then you really should seek out the OGs, either on original hardware or emulation, they are immaculate games (and you can play the main game with your friends too!)
@@TurnstyleVideoA new Monkey Ball game is coming out in june Called Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble
what a banger video
I dunno, I kinda feel like you're expecting a perfect recreation of the games... It shouldn't really be. Not always of course, there are some valuable points, but what can I say, I get the vibe you didn't like some of the changes just because they were changes. Still a good video though
I liked Banana Blitz
it was better than 2
This review is asking for the exact same as on the Gamecube, which is unreasonnable.
If you were porting games to modern hardware, wouldn't you try to keep them as accurate as possible?
Who are you to change the intent of the original creators?
Which part is the unreasonable bit? This video tells me he's angry because the sound effects and graphics are not the same ones he has nostalgia for (which is to be expected, if you're releasing the same game with a new coat of paint, then why complain about the paint?). That's about the only complaint of substance I can find after reading between the lines.
Honestly? I'd take a port of Deluxe to modern consoles over Banana Mania
@@ToaderTheToad Deluxe had many issues too. -_-
@@ChiefMedicPururu Deluxe's biggest issue is the loss of the rolling sound, which isn't actually a big deal
If you're talking about the 30 FPS and much worse graphics, those are exclusive to the mediocre PS2 version, the Xbox version is 60 FPS with almost all GCN graphics retained (the only thing missing is some reflection effects being missing)
Way too hard to be fun.
The og games are harder
Clearly you didn't play the originals then.