Panasonic Lumix G9II :: Hands on first look!
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Panasonic has released a new Micro 4/3 camera - and finally with Phase Detection Auto Focus! The Lumix G9 II is a photo-centric camera and the successor to the G9 from 5 years ago. The company also released 3 zoom lenses today - an updated Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 12-35mm f/2,8 with Power OIS, an updated Leica DG Vario 35-100mm f/2.8 ASPH with Power OIS and a brand new Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm f/5-6.3 with Power OIS that is teleconverter compatible.
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As a m4/3 user I am excited to see that it is not being ignored.
So happy to see this. My beloved G9 has been my companion for about two years now, and I love it more every passing day.
I think it still holds up perfectly.
I’m surprised to see the backlit screen on top of the body go away, as that was quite useful.
Anyhow, I think it’ll be very hard for me to not but this. It just seems like the perfect technical upgrade without breaking the bank.
Great job to you and to LUMIX!
There was a time where people were hesitant to adopt 35mm because of the small sensor size.
The actual name of 35mm was "Kleinbild" or "small frame". I still call it that.
The original DSLRs used 35mm film lenses and mounts but with sensors smaller than 35mm film. Then, in the early 2000s, DSLRs came out with sensors that matched 35mm in size. The marketing teams boasted that the new larger sensors could capture the "full frame". It's genius marketing - the term implies that it's the ideal size.
@@shigidab0p Yes and what are the chances that a format that was first used over 100 years ago - when film was far less sensitive, had much less dynamic range and resolution - would still be the ideal size today!
But as you probably know, but choose not to mention it, the lenses are much bigger and heavier @@phillipbanes5484
@@phillipbanes5484 sure, if you're interested in the best quality you should try large format film. 8x10 has around 60 times the exposed area of full frame and can capture much more detail. But there are benefits to smaller sensors too.
Happy to see that MFT is still alive and kicking. These days I shoot with Fuji system, but I have fond memories of shooting with Olympus. It is definately fun system to shoot with
I am very excited about this new G9. I had a GX8 years ago. It was one of my favorite cameras.
The Lumix cameras brilliant, fell in love with them since buying a GX85 initially for traveling and then upgrading to the G9, which is the best camera I've owned or used so far. Absolutely love the G9 for photos
I appriciate how much love you give to the original g9. A fantastic camera and like you said, still holds up. This second version looks awsome :) intresting times for mft. Can't wait to see if panasonic will come out with a gx9ii.
Wow I didn’t think this was ever going to happen. 😊 happy to see this.
Been watching many reviews of the GX9II recently and what really has strike me is the colors in the images, looks great :)
I’m happy to see them release a new MFT camera. Great review, thanks for sharing.
Thank you for an excellent overall review. I would love more of your thoughts on the G9ii, please.
Excellent review. You covered a lot of information. I’m excited for this camera even though it’s out of my price range. It shows some solid commitment to the MFT system. Thank you for your review!
Cool. Looking forward to the Kodak and Fuji LUTs. Thanks for putting in the work
Great camera and great review, I love M/43 system, I would love to test this camera.
I’m excited for the G9II. As one who schlepped FF & APS-C Pentax gear around, finding the G9 and MFT gear made going out so much easier on me physically. My G9 has been a faithful companion; I’m sure the G9II will be, too … and it was time, perhaps past time, for the update to the system.
This may be my next camera...thanks for the review!
With your full review, I would love a comparison between this, and your opinion of the closest competitors… For me, that would be the OM1 but you’re the expert.
Interesting camera, yes I want to see more. Thanks great video.
What I notice is that reviewers are genuinely enthusiastic about a) a nice camera and b) a good new m43 release. Tells me enough about the viability of m43. I agree with the lens size being the main benefit of m43. I have three cheap kitzooms giving me 9mm to 300mm continuous focal range (18-600mm FF equivalent) and good quality for landscape and hyperfocal type of overall focus. I will take a fast ultra wide prime for indoor shots and maybe a longer fast prime for bokeh shots. It fills just part of my backpack. There is a 100-400mm in my future, and a high end portrait lens and I guess the sky is the limit for image quality and budget in new lenses. But which system allows such a small package for basically everything, this cheap and this good? And I bet that, even if there's no Pen-F and no GX9ii for now, there are bound to be small m43 bodies again if there are buyers.
Great video! Agree on all points. You mention size of lenses as a key M43 advantage and I totally agree. Also important, to me, is the fact that they are usually far cheaper, which makes them more appealing to amateurs who don't make money from their hobby. One area to focus on is when and under what conditions would a full frame camera actually deliver noticeably better results. With AI increasingly improving, those conditions are lessening, methinks.
I think maybe lowlight that M43 would not be great. I've been using the GH5 and GH5s which are beautiful, but I'm looking at a GH6 or S5ii as my next camera. I'd like to see either a GH6ii or an S1Hii.
Perfect B cam for s5ii series and for long shots with zooms
to me it is a a cam to the s5 as i cant stand the 4k60 crop in the s5. for video g9 is better in any way
I had a Panasonic Lumix 15 years ago. Loved a lot about it. Size especially good. Image quality not so good. I’m definitely interested in this. I have a good large camera that I want to sell. And I’m going to check out this for sure!
Please continue this video series!
I am shooting mainly street these days, and Panasonic GX9 contrast detect works without fail. It has to be for those into video, I guess.
Right on the money :) lens size means a lot to me when traveling
I'd appreciate a deep dive into the G9 II's video capabilities. Thanks!
I wanted a sealed photo focused s5.ii with a mft sensor and got it. I love my mft lenses for architecture and portraits, to replace them would cost thousands upon thousands for used equivalents, and I'm not interested in spending that when I live the look older and newer mft sensors give. Some of my favorite portraits I've seen were shot with an Olympus E-M1 and E-M5.2 (baby E-M1) with a 45mm and 75mm f1.8 lenses. That photographer has used a range of cameras, but honestly I think the shots they have with the E-M1, E-M1.2 and e-m5.2 with the relatively cheap lenses blow even the recent shots with a Canon R5 away. Obviously the R5 images are technically "better", but the MFT shots have a connection I've only gotten from shooting 120mm film in my 645 cameras. My favorite abandoned interior shots were taken with a humble Olympus E-Pl7 and look fantastic.
If I love the look and my clients love the look when I do photo work, then why should I spend thousands "upgrading?" I'm stuck between a used OM-1 for around 600 USD less or the G9.II. I'm going to wait a few months and see what happens sales wise and maybe used or open box either way.
We want more G9ii content!
, I bought your fujified preset pack and have already converted them into. Cube files and have been using them on my S5ii to great delight! I love how they make my jpegs look, and I especially love how they even make my video look. I'll be really curious to see how you tweak them going forward. But even now, they look great.
Do you shoot LingGOP with the LUT?
Great video thank you! Can you tell me if the continuous autofocus works well while you filming slow motion in 4k 120fps or only works with manual focus mode?
I truly hope that there is an update to the GX9. I was a Canon 5DMk3 and 4 fanboy and tried m4/3 and haven't looked back.
Nice review! The G9 II kicks ass and takes names... The rumor mill is proven wrong once again. m43 is not dead! There is a LOT of pent-up demand among m43 lens owners for a top class m43 camera like this. Hopefully, they will build a version of it to replace the GH6 with a unit that has PDAF, real time LUTs, dual dual card slots (CF Express B x 2 PLUS SDXC II x 2), and all the other L-squared enhancements.
I never did use the top screen on my G9. This new G9ll could replace both my old GH5 and G9. Nah, I'll still use the GH5 letting it shoot video continuously while I get other clips with the G9ll. It helps me capture stuff I might otherwise miss.
Does this camera come with optical low pass filter?
I have one on pre-order. I need a backup to my OM-1 and a replacement for my E-M5iii for video. I shoot a lot of video and the 5.3 requires a grip/L-bracket for tripod use and a micro HDMI to full size HDMI dongle and plug protector and cable restraint as well as an external recorder for 1-2 hours unattended video. I could get another OM-1 but it still has the micro HDMI socket. The OM-1 just needs a tee shirt draped over it to keep it going in direct sunlight, 95F+ temp, when recording 4k internally. I doubt that the G9ii will overheat. Small sensors are great for video and for battery life. And the G9ii will work great with my Olympus 40-150f2.8 and 150-400 Pro lenses for video and photos. Besides, I've always wanted to try a Panasonic body for video instead of dealing with all the workarounds on the Olympus bodies. Thanks for the hands on first look.
Thank you.
I hope we don't have to wait that long for those presets as cube or VLT conversions. They look awesome :)
Very enjoyable watch Ted!
Hope you’re well Richard!!!
Great video.
4:25 How can I find the section mentioned?
Please respond.
Does the G9II also have a lag when pressing the video shutter button, similar to the GH6?
I am still a MFT shooter with a G95 and a GX9 but I still figure out one thing. How to shoot with flash on but with the display showing only the preview without flash. What I mean is for the camera to shows only the preview of what the exposure is like based on my setting iff I didn't turn on the flas. Anyone can help me here?
thinking of buying the Film Simulations for use in panasonic g9ii camera (and S5xii). it is mentioned in the video that they would be ready by Novemberish. But the website doesnt list RT LUT as an option. wondering if there is an update as of Jan 1, 2024?
thank you for the great channel.
Red border on the screen to show when recording video as per the upgrade to the G9?
Do you believe this focus updates will come to the s5ii?
I wish they’d revise the GX style bodies (I’ve owned both a GX1 and GX9). The small body and lens combination is great for street shooting.
Agree. I shoot street and gx9ii would be amazing. I'm still using GX8 but I miss the smaller GX7
Does Focus Bracketing with flash work with G9II? It doesn't work with the G9 which is a deal breaker for me as a macro photographer. Thanks in advance.
Do you have a link for where to buy this? Thanks!
Is PDAF in Continuous AF only like it is on S5ii?
At first glance, I might have made a mistake. I’m coming from the iPhone and wanting to shoot bird photography. I’m also a hobbyist. I purchased a used G9, 12-60 and 100-300 all for around $1k USD. This will allow me to practice, get some good shots and in time stay with the G9 or upgrade if I outgrow or find short comings. To this that get the g9 II, may you have a lot of fun shooting!
Perfect setup
You have a fine setup already. The more important thing is your knowledge of ornithology.
An exciting question! Can we use your LUTs for video? !!!!
I think it’s safe to sell the GX85 if I have that and the original G9 bodies
Good Sir
your watch looks interesting !
I'll always have a soft spot for mft, especially Panasonic, and no doubt the G9II is an elite level product, but I guess it's not the top 1% that decides if a system is popular and "alive".
Next year a weather sealed 42.5 f1.2 mk II….. please!
I love my G9 and was really excited about the Mk2 but so disappointed to see the 3 strikes and out: Way bigger body = Major Dealbreaker; Loss of eye relief = Dealbreaker; Loss of top plate LCD = Dealbreaker. Fingers crossed for Phase Detect versions of GX9, G100 or G80 with the new sensor (as a consolation prize). Thankfully, the Mk2 doesn't make the Mk1 a bad camera.
When's the new GX model tho?
Long live M4/3!
/ Saw you press day @ Cupertino CA .. Sick bro 😎 Rad Photographer- 😅
8:00 Spot on. The bodies range in size from tiny to... no tiny. But the small, light and let's be honest, cheap lenses are really what makes the m43 system small, light (and arguably cheap).
The G9ii will bring me back to Panasonic now that it has PDAF. At 60fps is there viewfinder blackout?
Nope, no blackout in 20fps and 60fps
I got a great deal on the original S5 recently, and it's a great camera with great image quality, but it's not worlds better than my G9. So many people who don't have extensive experience with MFT, I think, assume that the smaller sensor can't be very good. Trust me, that's not the case. I have owned or used the Canon 5DIII, Nikon D500, Canon R7 and a Ricoh GRIIIx, so I have first-hand experience with several other cameras. I'm not a video shooter, so I can't vouch for video capabilities, but I know about stills with these cameras. I wish Panasonic had not taken so long to add PDAF because that is a notable improvement, but as far as MFT goes, it's an incredibly capable system and the size and cost of the lenses is nothing short of phenomenal when the cost is factored in. The Lumix 12-35 and 35-100 f2.8 lenses are as good as any of the f2.8 pro zooms from Nikon and Canon. They cost half as much, they're a third or half the size and weight and the IQ is outstanding. Same for most of the MFT lenses. I'm even second guessing the purchase of the S5. I'm asking myself if I should sell the S5 to buy a G9II.
Except for one little thing - your MFT F2.8 lenses are equivalent to F5.6 FF lenses (of double the focal length). Would pros consider F5.6 to be "pro"? Often not.
@@gregsullivan7408 in terms of equivalent light-gathering, they’re still f2.8. I’ve been in low light situations where I can shoot at f2 or f1.4 with a prime on MFT, still have adequate DOF, and shoot at 1-2 stops lower ISO than my friends on their FF cameras. The greater depth of field turns into an advantage in that situation.
bad luck for me, just bought my second G9 5 months ago never thought there will be an upgrade to G9II
Cool
Except that for those two lenses the FF equivalent aperture (in terms of DoF & light gathering) is F5.6.
Light gathering does not change.
I'm still waiting to change my Gx80/85. Maybe i wait few years more or just buy small aps-c body from Fuji /Sony :)
The term “full frame” in analogy with 35mm only is wrongly used nowadays. It means a camera system I which the lenses fill the entire frame of the sensor/film area. It’s the case with all dedicated systems, so it’s also the case of Micro 43 which uses dedicated lenses that fill the frame
No it means it's equivalent to a 35mm frame
@@thelemon5069 no. This term was used to distinguish apsc vs 35mm because many early digital users wanted to exploit the full capacity/width of their older 35mm lenses and were expecting canon and Nikon to build a full 35mm sensor digital camera. When the D3, D700 and Canon 5D came out, the term full frame became slowly adopted to determinate 35mm cameras. So Full frame just means lenses that fill the frame of the sensor they were dedicated for. it just became a popular term for 35mm…
@@fthprodphoto-video5357but it DEFINITELY now refers to 35mm. It's become the convention, regardless of how much you may disagree with it.
@@gregsullivan7408 it became a convention due to the lack of knowledge of many newbies and the ridiculous pride of a few camera reviewers back in 2008 who switched from a DX Nikon to a FX Nikon D700/D3s and called it suddenly « full frame » but in real terms it just ment that their 35mm lenses finally filled the full sensor. I remember it very well because they were bashed in many forums for snobbing other users who still used « inferior APSC cameras » actually the micro 43 system and its lenses is a Full frame system, and any medium format system who uses dedicated lenses that cover their 645, 6x6, 6x7 or 6x9 sensor ate also FULL FRAME systems
Why would they remove the top LCD?! It’s so useful!
Because they use the same body as their full frame camera. Cost saving.
The LCD was never there in the first place since it’s the S5ii body
Okay, Panasonic. Now do the GX9M2. Thank you.
Is 4k 120 works with phase af?
Yes
Ooh ooh! I don't like the Adobe company's practices so I am an Affinity Suite user. One purchase, forever license, perfect. But they don't take Adobe preset files for RAW processing...how much do I need to pay you to create Kodakifying presets for Affinity Photo? ;)
I have and love a G9. But, what is very special is the sizes of the lenses. I look at the monster lens size line up of canon and think no way on this planet does a non pro need that sort of stuff.
Wait what ? They removed the top display ?... pfff.
GX9II..?
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I'm tempted. This looks better than the OM-1 for most people. The AF burst rate is faster at 60 FPS vs 50 (and I think it's the current winner among all general-purpose cameras), the buffer is larger, the price is lower, and it's competitive with PDAF, pre-burst, and amazing stabilization. I'm just not sure about the size; it's a lot bigger than my E-M1 II, which does raise the question of whether that larger size might justify moving to a larger format.
The body is getting close to full frame, but the lenses are still A LOT smaller.
@@bandofbros8112 Not just close. Its the same size as the S5 II and bigger than most FF Sonys. The first G9 was also big.
@@ZakWilsonYes. The G9II is larger than my Sony A7IV.
I have had an Olympus M1.2 forever. Before that I had both the M1.1 and M5.2. I passed on the M1.3 because no new sensor even though I wanted the improved video. Along the way I looked at the OM cameras and spent time with G9, GX8, and GH5II. Just got the G9II and love it.
Why can I not still get 422 8 bit on any camera in 2023? Give "me" choices. I´m a photographer and if I would film I would do it in 120p 422 8 bit base case. Why can I not get that in any camera? Loved the original G9 and hoping for this one to be better and cheaper!
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Why do you want 8 bit when 10 bit is available? A number of Sony cameras have 422 10 bit and this one has that, too
It doesn't overheat.
The G9 is $900 USD, while the new body is $1,900. The size and weight of the G9II is that of APSC and FF gear, so you don't gain a thing unless you are using longer lenses. When I think of MFT, I think of nice little rangefinder style cameras, like my PEN PL-8 or GX9, or even the Olympus EM-10. Smaller gear. This new camera seems pretty good. Alas, it competes now with some pretty good contenders in APSC and FF cameras -- it might be tough.
only thing I use my m43 for is longer lenses such as adapted canon 400mm 5.6 l & 100mm Tokina macro lens. It can do other things very good but that is what I found it to be very good at and video if you into that.
And the price will drop drastically just like the G9 did
Idk, I'll be picking up a g9 ii. It's great if you to shoot birds, a light weight setup, or video. If I want the wow factor or shooting to make prints, I'll grab my gfx.
1. The lenses remain tiny by Super35mm or Fullframe35mm standards. A bag of u4/3rds lenses is still going to be signifacantly smaller and lighter.
2. It's expensive enough to be a pro camera. That implies a full array of controls. I think we are discovering there is in fact a minimum practical size, and it derives not from sensor size but the space needed for controls and the size of peoples hands.
3. In a world where DSLR/DSLM sales are a small fraction of what they were ten years ago, manufacturers are going to want to reuse as much body/platform design as possible to cut costs.
Absolutely agree, the release of G9ii made me even happier with my E-P7 😉
If I was starting off and had to buy lenses, I would go the extra $500 and buy a good condition S1 or S5. The L mount lenses from Panasonic are fantastic and not much more than M4/2 lenses. And ignore Video. How many of us have a UA-cam channel, anyway? Serious hybrid choice is the GH5/6.
Show us AF with viltrox/Sigma 18-35! No one has yet tested this!
For me it's the body size that's keeping me away. If I'm going for neck pain I might as well get top-of-the-line flagship neck pain.
There is a real drought of compact cameras right now. Only the Sony seem to be scaling down with the a7CII and ZV-E1 with their frame bodies being X100V sized. While Fujifilm can't even make the X-S20 significantly smaller or lighter than the Canon R8 full frame. Not that Canon are off the hook with their massive aps-c bodies. Nikon have the Z30 at least, and there's always the Ricoh GRIII.
It's a great time to be a sports and wildlife photographer. These hybrids are perfect for sitting or locked off with high fps shoots. Terrible if you intend to walk about with your camera all day and do street, documentary, travel, or snap photography though.
I think I'll stick with just the GRIII for now, and hope we get something cropped in size and weight not just sensor soon.
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Also, James Popsys made the observation that Sony's EF lenses can be quite compact, and he now feels the weight & size advantage of MFT has diminished somewhat. (and in fact, he's now switched to FF Sony)
Everyone seems to talk these days as if it's m4/3 vs FF... but I honestly think that the best of both worlds was APS-C.
I do like m4/3 but I often look more closely in LR or whatever and think "Yeah... m4/3's quality..." It's just not QUITE there. 80% of the way, sure... but 80% is still 20% short.
Whereas APS-C is 95% of the way there, especially with the right lenses, and they're still not as big as FF. And now that we've ditched the mirror, there's even more opportunity to make small bodies that can capture stunning detail.
I agree that APSC should be the best format however the G9ii has better dynamic range than most APSC cameras and ISO performance is not far off plus most APSC cameras are garbage. Annoying for sure.
M43 should be high end DC, like RX100, for changing lens system, is too much overhead.
The Art of Photography, If you're going to make LUTs for this camera or whichever camera system, how about challenging yourself and create a LUT/LUTs that resemble the look of such films as the old spaghetti westerns, (with Clint Eastwood) and 'Breakfast at Tiffany's'. Now, that would be something 😊
The will prolong my need to go to FF. I have some good M43 glass, but spend $1900 on this? Idk
Wait six months for the inevitable discounted price. I did with the GH5 mkII
Super expensive for a M43 camera but I guess it's about the video advanced features. For stills the Lumix G95 for under $500 used is fantastic value.
@@hanumanguy I would not be surprised if a G95 mkII is in the works because of the smaller form factor. It would undoubtedly have some tradeoffs with respect to heat if they bumped it to 25MP but if they kept it at 20MP and had PDAF that could be a consumer winner.
@@josekuhn2819I'd certainly buy one.
The issue with really tiny camera bodies is that you need really tiny hands to operate them.
Mine are XL and regardless of how clever the Japanese are, they will not shrink.
The massive trend now of even using 20 year old digital camera technology proves that there’s something missing with all the new latest very small incremental spec changes that don’t impact actually obtaining a photo that we like and enjoy to add to our memories on a hard disk.
I want to be tempted back to real cameras I really do.
Not really. Just trendy.
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Compare to a6700 for size and features
The real question is if OM System will budge and finally be forced to considerably drop the price on the OM-1. I don't see how anyone would buy an OM-1 over the G9II now. The OM1 is priced USD300 more expensive. Let that sink in.
In Canada, both are now priced at $2600.
The whole point of a smaller sensor, is to have a smaller camera/lens combination. It's absurd that this camera, which has a sensor 1/4 the size of a sony full frame camera, is significantly larger than the sony.
GH5 till I die
G7 was the best camera lumix did
Basically Panny is just putting the “Leica” label on the “new” lenses.
At the end of the day everything is getting smaller and the pixels getting larger.... micro four third is here to stay and soon will have 100 megapixels...
The essence of the MFT is portability and lightness.
Panasonic has completely missed this essential feature.
You might as well get a fullframe.
For those people the GX-Series is the right line. I think it's good to have the choice between a really light and small camera with something like the GX-9 and a G9 if you want more capabilities. Two bodies, but the same lenses, which can be used.
Can't wait for UA-camrs to say Full Frame is dead!😀
I don't see the point
Hard sell, for about the same price you can get a s5 mk2.
if you have a bag full of micro 4/3rds lenses ......
@@alandargie9358 It depends, if you have pana leica like me maybe it’s to consider, but for anyone new you have to admit that a S5ii paired with a 20-60mm is currently less expensive.
@@alandargie9358And I do have a bunch of micro four-thirds lenses. When the S5 II came out I loved all of the video reviews of that camera and no way I was going to start buying L-mount lenses. Loved everything people said about the menus and the ergonomics of the body and the color of the images. So when they said that the G9II was going to be micro 4/3 sensor and lens mount and that camera body. I was in. All the way in.