Great summary as always. But like I stated in my review, for that price it should have an all metal heat-break not PTFE to the nozzle. You realistically only get 235°C max long term as PTFE will degrade. For all metal you have to spend $70 more for the S1 Pro.
Funny enough, as identical as they perform, the CR one does it completely differently in therms of the electronics: it uses an optical sensor instead of the Hal effect one of the BL Touch, being thus much less prone to interference.
I like the CR touch more. It doesn't feel as flimsy as the BL which is normally fine but my Sovol SV03 has bent the needle somehow twice on that. With the CR being a direct drop in replacement, it hasn't had that issue and being slightly bigger, the z offset was almost perfect whereas with the BL, you had to send a command to allow offset in the negative to get a proper level. So while it's simple to say it's just a knock off, it's better imo.
The s1 is my first 3d printer and It has made amazing prints for me right out of the box. I have printed the boaty and many other calibration type things and all of them came out pretty much perfect with stock settings and the pla filaments I bought to start with (overture brand). I printed a few articulated toys and they worked perfect first run. So far its way less of a pain than I was expecting it to be, very happy with it.
I have one. I can honestly say that I love printing on the S1. It's my first printer and I did a lot of research on UA-cam before deciding on buying. The second runner up was the FLSun speed racer. I wanted a delta printer, so after I attained perfection with the S1, I bought the FLSun. I could not be happier with these two printers. The FLSun is a fast, accurate, and amazing printer to watch. The S1 is just about as good as it gets. I do have to say, that the FLSun SR is especially nice because of the fixed bed. There is no need to level the bed, and one auto bed leveling operation is all you need to do. But getting back to the main topic of the S1. The S1 is worth the money and it's a beautiful piece of technology. I love direct drive extrusion too.
I've been in the same boat, watching and watching loads of reviews and researching and was about to pull the trigger on a prusa, but then saw the fl sun Sr and thought yes then saw the s1 and thought oh and now waiting for the s1 pro to come out, there were others in the line up but couldn't put a nail in the all rounder it's a nightmare trying to choose for a newb that wants to print and not continually tinker and up grade, those deltas look uber cool 👍👍
I love my S1 so much. I've had it operating almost 24/7 for the past month. I exclusively use mine for tabletop gaming scenery pieces so I have only been using PLA at 200/60 with 5%-50% infill depending on what I'm doing. I've been using pretty much the cheapest 10kg at $13/kg PLA+ available through it and haven't had a single issue with it that took longer than 15 minutes to resolve.
I’ve had mine for a week. And I’ve had all kinds of issues. Run out sensor will not work when connected to raspberry pie. They asked me to do a firmware update it will not update. All the sudden it totally quit printing altogether so I’m playing a cat and mouse game with Support kind of a pain in the neck. It would’ve been nice if they would’ve told us the pro version was available when I ordered this one last week but now they did not. Back to my Prusa
@@nmfireman out the box its worked good for me so far ,had it for three weeks,after so many hours the metal board didnt hold prints as well,got the glass from creality,that lasted three days and started crapping out,I know there's a handful of variables to watch for, definitely woulda bought the pro,this is my first printer,
@@tommychiletti8506 If you ever take it apart, be carefull not to break the small wires coming out of the heater block. (thermister wires). I was doing some testing and wasn't carefull enough. Now I need to replace my heater block and with no spares to find its just a pain
@D L What the hell are you talking about making anything up. I do love my Prusa and I also like my S1 one but we are having issues when we use it in Prusa slicer. When I start a print up if I don’t warm up the bed and nozzle first it will not print a purge strip. I don’t think the G code is exactly set up for the slicer I was asking for help on this. Why don’t you offer suggestions instead of BS
Fantastic printer - beats the heck out of my old Ender 3 pro. It really makes 3D printing practical. Super quiet, great UI, awesome bed adhesion, outstanding cable management, excellent print quality and very easy setup. I was printing in less than :20 minutes. Best investment I made in 3D Printing. Thumbs up!
I am completely new to 3D printing and that flexible bed made me feel like I was Insane and couldn't get the bed level. Finally realized it was the flexible bed and slapped the glass it came with on there and it's been perfect ever since. Love this thing
Have had the S1 for almost 2 months now and for the most part it does well. I did have an issue with the z offset that resulted in the stock bed taking some damage while trying to tune for petg. I've since replaced it with a rough and smooth pei flex sheet and both of those are working well. Note: features like pressure advance were disabled in the firmware and to avoid the constant back and forth of updating firmware, I switched it over to Klipper. Since the S1 is so new there were few resources to help with this, but it was worth the effort. It did highlight one issue, and this just might be my S1, but the USB-C connection drops sometimes. I've tried different raspberry pi's and different cables and the only time i have an issue with any of them is on the S1. I've never lost a print because of this, but sometimes it can take a few minutes to get it up and running. My plan is to replace the controller board with a BTT Pico if it gets any worse. Also, for taller prints, the nozzle would start hitting the previous layers. I ended up loosening up the vertical supports, clamping them in place with a couple squares, re-tightening things, and that appears to have taken care of it.
I like the machine, I have 5 of them. However, after 4 months of intensive use they started having problems, but the hardest part is to figure what is happening. Accessing extruders, nozzle, and so on is hard, takes time and replace the whole kit as a quick alternative will cost you at least $100. If I compare this machine and an original CR10 for intensive budget printing, I'd choose 100 times the original CR10. I have 2, after more than 5 years I just replaced the extruder kit and updated the bed. I know, the CR10 is ugly, bulky, and looks cheap but it's just reliable, with great quality and it's easy to fix. Once you level this thing you won't need to do it again. The S1 is a great design probably the best, in my opinion for light use but if you need printing large quantities, long term, this isn't the machine. If you still want to it because, I'll recommend paying for the insurance so you can replace it. I've replaced two of them already after 4 months of work and probably I'll need to replace another two this week. I have other machines industry grade, more expensive ($.1.2K) and the one that has given me the less problems is that cheap CR10 🤔.
Ive been printing with the ender 3 s1 since January. I've modded the heck out of it with sonic pad, gantry light, dual part fans, linear rails, better PEI build plates, upgraded springs, upgraded hot end, I love this machine and dont really get all of the ender haters
got one as my first printer, have put about 4kgs through it now and still love how it performs. ordered the pro hotend from creality as an upgrade. the only issue i have had is the bed not being relatively flat. on small prints it wasnt a problem, i could usually move the location of the print around to find good adhesion. but on bigger prints even with the auto leveling i would have some localized hills where the nozzle would make ghost lines and other areas where the filament would just pop right off. i have had to use a lot of rafts. the other issue is the little spatula that comes with it, mine was stamped metal and no burs were removed. i didnt inspect the tool and on first use trying to separate a part from the bed gouged a line into it. i havent used it since and havent even needed something similar because everything releases well with the spring steel. why even include it if the cheapness makes it a danger to the very product it is supposed to be used on. any suggestions for a bed upgrade? i love the ease of the spring steel type but if it means having a much flatter surface i might try glass.
Glass would resolve your bed lumps issue, but you'll have to fuss with glue sticks or hairspray whereas my regular ass flexible mat hasn't needed a spray-down/wash in... months. My bed is uneven in the center - a piece of tinfoil underneath solved it, now adhesion is *too* good.
Having one (my first 3D printer) I would say that NOT having a touch screen is great! The knob is fast, precise and - best of all - tactile! E.g. When adjusting z-offset I don't have to look at the screen. One minor gripe though; when moving between icons with the knob, I would have liked the the icon selection order to be go going round like an O; the 'Z' jump movement always surprises me. But. eh, whatever. I also like the SD-Card. Good thing they didn't do a micro!
I have a quite modified Ender 3 Pro and I'm quite happy with it. I'm looking forward for the S1 Pro that can print hotter and includes a PEI metal flex plate. The mods in mine makes it able to print nylon, but the S1 Pro seems like it would be more straightforward
Managed to get one of these for $200, and at that price point this thing is an absolute steal. My Prusa Mini is still a much better printer overall in spite of its smaller build volume (it prints better parts and is hours faster on jobs) , but right out of the box this eliminates 90% of the problems I had with my first Ender 3 (mostly bed leveling and underextrusion) and is actually very usable.
I have an Ender 3 V2, and an S1, and the S1 though more expensive gets a lot more work from me now than the V2. For me, it's just a lot more polished and requires a lot let maintenance.
I have had my s1 for a bit now as my first filament printer, I have had a few years with resin. The only stuff I know about filament going into it was a handful of UA-camrs. Alright out of the box the thing prints amazing. Once I switched from creality slicer to actual cura (for tree supports). I have done all kinds of stuff so far including some print in place stuff and it has been absolutely great. Only complaint I have is that it is that it is kinda hard to remove support filament from the build plate, but I'm guessing that is an inexperience issue more than a machine issue.
That comment at the end about it being in big box stores really got me because that's how I got mine lol. Bought it in Microcenter on sale for a hell of a steal
Totally agree with the bed surface comment. I have upgraded our S1's with the double sided PEI...they work "preety freaking" fantastic, currently putting the Build Plate from Wham Bam through its paces. Your fan comment is right on the money.... call me OCD but we clean our fan every 100 hours or so since our machines are running pretty much 24/7. Now if they only had Silicon Socks in stock for the South Pacific that would be nice. We did change a few settings for our PETG and carbon filament requirements, other than that we have only come across one issue...two of our machines bed plates will not heat up to the edges arrrrgh!!!!!!! that seems to be fairly common talking with others across the globe with the early releases; but realistically those sized and shaped prints are few and far between for us. Keep up the great work Joel, Sean and David.
I've had my Ender 3 S1 for about 3 weeks now and absolutely love it. Had to manually level the bed once because one corner was much lower than the others, but since then the auto level has been a dream. Considering that I spent the first 3 months with my original Ender 3 printing mods and ordering better parts, only spending an hour calibrating is well worth the price. Found a fantastic guide for setting up the slicer too and since then my prints have come out incredible. All in all, I absolutely love the Ender 3 S1!
We have that all working correctly with our firmware + LCD kit. We fixed all the issues with the software that Creality couldn't do: ua-cam.com/video/PhOI7ccm78U/v-deo.html
Great review Joel. I just wrapped up shooting my review last night and it’s hilariously similar in thoughts. Haha. Only difference is mine got a bit damaged in shipping. But that’s irrelevant to the actual machine. This is a solid “benchmark” in this price range.
Considering the price I am not a massive fan and definitely would not buy one. There have been people having issues with the extruder the cr touch and bed adhesion. How many are having problems I don’t know. You could get 2 Ender 3pros for about the same or buy one Ender 3 pro and mod it with a better all metal hotend and a new board and a better bed for the same price. I do agree that not everyone wants to mod things but considering the big price jump I would be buying a different make. See there is going to be a pro version of this with a all metal hotend at a ridiculous price. You can only review the printer you get I appreciate and I would not buy this at this price if it was a hundred bucks cheaper maybe. I have 2 Ender 3s a standard and a pro and to be honest they both print beautifully so at this price it does not interest me. Interesting to see all the different reviews though I have seen two others so far and do notice that each one does find the price to be too high.
I have the Ender 3 V2 but I still think the S1 is a better deal. I've had to do my own upgrades to boden tubes, bed leveling, and bed springs, but I still can't print flexible filaments and I occasionally suffer from sagging level on one side due to lack of the dual-z axis control. My Ender 3 V2, in short, has now cost about as much as or more than an S1 (not even counting my time investment) and it still lacks in areas the S1 would address.
I wonder if turning the fan upside down would help? But then the air would be going over the extruder motor, that often gets pretty toasty too... but it still might help!
@@TheKdcool The bearings on the linear rods on the prusa are going to last longer than the roller bearings that ride along the aluminum extrusions on the s1. That means more consistent prints that are truer to the gcode for many more hours. Which is important when you print a lot. So after about 200-400 hours the roller bearings are going to need replacing to get the same initial quality where as the Prusa will go well into 2000-3000 hours before you see any noticeable artifacts in prints.
Not sure why creality is still using the roller instead of linear rods. I assume the S1 will be like my other enders in that they work well out of the box, but start having problems as things quickly start to wear out. At this point, my ender 3 spends more time being adjusted than printing, and it still can't print as well as my MK3 which is never down. Not to mention that you need need to pay $100+ more for the Pro version to get the all metal hot end. At $500+, you're pretty close to the cost of Prusa MK3S+ It's actually significantly more than the Prusa mini
Beginners ask me all the time if they should buy an Ender 3. My answer is always yes if it's all you can afford, but if you can throw more money, buy a Prusa MK3S+ (kit). Its well worth the extra money in my opinion, and the instructions for putting one together are terrific, and I feel assembly helps people better understand how things work.
@@grantdeisig1360 That's what I seem to recall from the middle of January. If it ever drops down to a week or two I might still put an order in. In the meantime, contemplating a voron build.
At around $400 will love to see how it compares to a prusa mini as they are pretty close on price. Sure, it is not as large, but it has an all metal hotend as well as the PEI bed and the amazing support from Prusa. I wonder how it will stack up.
I can confirm that the Slice Engineering Copperhead g2 bimetallic heatbreak is compatible with this printer. They go for about $35 on Amazon and I would highly recommend it as a first upgrade. I would also recommend against buying a clone as the machining required to make a bimetal heatbreak work properly is super precise.
From 4:17 on, exactly why I'm not going for Creality anymore. I did learn a TON from the previous models, as they indeed needed not only mods.... but MODS! :) There's always something I have to throw in the bin (in this case the sheet and maybe a redesign of the fan) and I just don't like that. With the experience I'm just saving up for something better.
I have an S1 it's my first 3d printer and it fulfilled the reason I wanted it over the cheaper Enders at Microcenter, the easy set up. HOWEVER, I have had bed adhesion and tolerance issues. Also I accidentally set my first print too close and some of that first layer is still stuck in the texture of the build surface. Edit: Upon rewatching I remembered that the fan is also a concern of mine, I wish it cooled from multiple sides.
If you factor in the time and money it would take to upgrade an Ender 3 with all the S1 comes with, you might be ahead by just starting with an S1. And for people who just want to print with little to no tinkering involved, the S1 might just be the ticket.
I could've afforded the S1 a lot more easily than my Ender 3 Pro plus the Micro Swiss extruder and hotend and the SKR E3 Mini I added, but the most fun I've had with my printers came from modifying them. I wouldn't trade that even for a Prusa.
thanks for doing a straight review. a lot of other "reviews" involve a lot of narcacistic show off of some childish sort or another. You're just like "here's the product, here's my experience with the product, here's my opinion of the product"
I'm still pluggin away with my OG 3, adding upgrades when i want/need. Its great to see that creality has added some of the most popular as stock equipment here. That being said if this was out when i got mine, i wouldnt have been able to afford it since im eternally broke xD.
Same XD. I got a cheap used ender 3 at 1/3 the regular used price, that needed a LOT of tlc and work to get back to good quality prints. But we're there! Luckily ive had some good tools on hand, so it was all doable without extra cost. Will get something like a CR 10 next but im still doing better everyday with my ender
I have an 3 ender 5s and got my ender 3 s1 about a month ago .. it has been printing 24/7 for parts manufacturing and I have not had 1 problem yet .. only the bed .. the bed is too good . I have to run a blade under the purge line to get it off it sticks like i said tooo good
Thank you Joel! These low-cost printers are certainly getting dialed in…..but I ordered another Prusa kit❤…..which never need any necessary tweaking from print No1😎
with my ender 3 max neo, anycubic neo, and ender 3 s1.... the S1 has given me zero issues other than a nozzle change... anycubic has been a headache and ender 3 max has hiccups but i toss that to lots of large prints constantly running ... I still consider myself a noob and have to say hands down my S1 has been the MOST enjoyable to use
The Fan sucking up filament is a concern, however, the 'heat' being pushed through is not. ( I personally don't think) The reason why is, your printing at 200ish. Your bed at 100ish isn't going to have 100ish air above it (thermal capacities, dissipation, etc) and once you begin to circulate air, your mixing the 'hot' with 'cool' - the biggest thing is - the 'hot' air from the bed, is still COLD air compared to the printing temp, by about 100C if not more. It's like if your room heater kicks on pumping out 27C heat to keep the room warm, this is COLD compared to the print temps and bed temps, so if you have ABS going - your probably going to warp thanks to that draft - even though, it's 27C "Heat" What happens on the S1 is similar, your pumping out 100C "heat" being pumped into the fan to "cool" the 200C printing parts, which, doesn't matter, it's still colder than the print temp, so it is 'cold'. Even 'hot air' inside a PC helps keep other parts of the PC 'cool' by keeping the air flowing, it's when the air stagnates and can't move fast enough, and only heats up, that things 'overheat' in a PC. All that being said, I don't like the 'intake' being on the print side where wisps can be sucked into the fan, even if it doesn't hurt the print, eventually it's gonna clog that fan up. Also the price. the S1 is just.. not a friendly price range. It's a new concept of an old design, but still lacks some features that would be considered standard at that price range. The 500 to 600 dollar range should be basically the most reliable work horses ever, and the bed and a few other kinks are keeping the S1 from being that work horse. It's like a Prusa price, but without the Prusa reliability- which honestly is the only reason Prusa can be argued to be worth the price range (as the print quality is not drastically better than a stock ender 3 from 2019, but the reliability is years ahead of the ender 3) If it were $100 cheaper, I'd say go for it, it's not a "workhorse' but your definately getting what your paying for (and you'll probably spend a little on , better beds, etc) I just can't see the value in a PTFE lined Direct Drive system being more expensive than a non-PTFE lined (all metal) system being cheaper, no matter the gimmicky add ons. (almost all of which are basic improvements considered by the community, like dual Z) Also 2208's are nice and all, but most are suggesting 2209's in 2022, so they are using a still 'older' driver set and not quite pumping out what most "new" printers are pushing. (like Vorons, Ratrigs, SkTank, etc.) even though most are also moving to 'coreXY design" as the next ting, a good set of 2209's can go a long way. IF the price included 2209's I could say it was close to price range, the biggest issue then only being the PTFE lined hotend - which 100% should be all metal, and the minor problem of the fan angle. It's nice to see Creality listening to community, making changes, and trying to do better - but they seem to be skipping some of the biggest things desired (all metal hot end) in order for more profits in the long run. I would have rather liked to see this version of the Ender3 delayed 6 months or even a year, make all metal hotends stock, and change that bed out for the price they are asking, the 'fan position' would be a tiny TINY concern then, as the 'value for what I paid" would be tremendous. (assuming they didn't bump up the price) they are working on an all metal hotend anyway for the S1 - to be sold seperately, and I feel this will be like the glass bed the Ender 3 had, where "some" will come with it, and some won't depending on how old of a model you purchased.
Got one from micro center for just $200 and verry happy, thinking of swapping the fan with a 5015 centripital fan and getting a pei bed, but other than that its pretty good
Got mine a couple of days ok. Incredible upgrade on my E3V2. Like he said - build plate isn’t great and will get a pei plate sound. Well worth the £319 I paid.
I've got a 5 year old Cr-10S that I love. I will keep it until it no longer works, but I do want a second, updated machine. I'd prefer to go no smaller than 300x300... I'll still keep this in mind though!
Ended up here looking for S1 Pro review but S1 review was great enough. Certainly getting my first 3D printer. Gonna be an exciting journey. GG Content.
getting really tired of replacing things that break on my ender3 thermistors, tubing, hotends, nozzles, bed leveling all to get useful prints. and then replacment bed are annoying. i really hope this is more reliable and more than just conveniant
Looking to purchase my first 3D printer, and I know absolutely nothing about them... however, the multiple videos I've seen, it looks like this might just be the best beginner printer for me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the subject.
LOVE mine. Absolutely love it. $hits all over my Hemera on my cr10 pro with bltouch. All I am waiting for is the high temp heatbrake I ordered from creality so I can get back to printing my high temp filaments.
I just got the Ender 3 S1 Pro, and it's amazing. I've never owned or even used a 3D printer before, so it's taking a lot of learning to get to where I feel like I know what I'm doing, but the prints are great. The machine just works.
@@3DPrintingNerd any advice for getting ABS to stick to the build plate? I've tried all the settings, leveling, the hairspray trick, everything I can think of. It just doesn't want to stick.
Great review and I totally agree! I love hitting print and it just prints, no worries. I am about to put a pei sheet on it myself because I'm not a huge fan of buildtak surfaces, as they do crap out after a bit. Keep up the great work!
Don't worry too much. The pro really does not offer that much more. The print quality between the two are the same. If you want to upgrade to pro specs, you can, but I'd be happy with the S1.
Based on the glimpse of the screen UI shown, it somewhat resembles what Jyers was doing with the v2 firmware, probably they used his source code as base for this one.
I have one and yes I did replace the bedsheet. So far I have a problem where the back right of the bed is lifted so far that when I changed the nozzle to the ruby and had to reset the bed I noticed it. The fan has sucked up some stuff but it's okay. I wish that the fan duct was a full circle setup or even offer different setups. I would love to see this on the Ender 5 Plus or even the Cr 10, or even have this as a DIY upgrade system for other printers.
I was considering this one today, but this sold me. Thanks, I’ll be buying the S1 and laser too… I’m excited to try some basic laser engraving and see if I might invest in a Glowforge or something in the future.
Indeed I think it's a great printer, well thought about it by Creality, I think that the S1 Pro is even better/more improved. I do look forward to get my hands on this printer. Great video Joel
I’m looking into printers for Christmas, never had a 3D printer before but seems like a cool hobby. There’s a few ideas I have already like printing some Replica guns from the game series Destiny and put them on display cuz theres a few I would like to physically display cuz they look so cool. Maybe make some side money too by selling prints lol.
I have been using the S1 for a month now. Two issues that I have encountered: 1: The Sprite Extruder is NOT All Metal, and replacing the PTFE is a nightmare. 2: Bits and pieces of the build plate started coming out, after printing PETG.
PETG is weird, I've had the best results printing on glass with glue on top (proper liquid wood glue dried out mind you, not glue stick). Never tried plain glass from the horror stories, I remember trying PEI and it was also annoying. EDIT: I wonder if this bed would work properly with the PVA wood glue on top as I do on glass...
I own 3 Elegoo machines because of Uncle Jessy and am pretty new to the 3d world but have always been an artist. I have enjoyed my trails but man have I made so many costly mistakes. I am guessing you guys both have made mistake videos but I think you guys both should get peoples intakes on top of your own "OOOPS". I have plenty to offer of what not to do. ANd what to do do after you do a not to do! Oh and I am in Tacoma, would it be cool to visit some day?
I had so many people telling me to buy a Ender 3 when I was looking for a second printer next to my Tevo Tornado. “Yeah you can upgrade it and tinker with it.....” FFS I just want to print.. why should the printing hobby be about tinkering and making the printer better? I just want to print my designs and yeah that means i have to fix things now and then and tinker with temps/layer heights but that’s it. So this looks like a much better option for me. But I think there are better and cheaper options to compete with this.
I used to have one keyword USED to have on. It was a great machine but unfortunately it stopped heating both the nozzle and bed but everything you said about the s1 is all true it is a truly great machine but it is sad that it broke
Yo Joel are you ever going to do a review on the sprite extruder upgrade for the standard Ender 3 I bought the upgrade kit and it had been really great
I'm using the original spring steel sheet, but not the original surface. I ripped the coating off and replaced it with a PEI sticker. It's amazing. Took way too damn long though. Mine never got to the point of bad adhesion, the cat test print stuck so well that it took part of the surface off with it.
I said this a couple times but now I think I'm sure, this will be my next printer. I've had all the ender 3's, except this one, and right now I have the ender 2 Pro and CR6SE, which is almost the same, but I think I want direct drive for TPU.
Great summary as always. But like I stated in my review, for that price it should have an all metal heat-break not PTFE to the nozzle. You realistically only get 235°C max long term as PTFE will degrade. For all metal you have to spend $70 more for the S1 Pro.
Can the heat break be replaced with an all metal one instead of replacing the entire assembly?
I agree. I guess they were really hoping to delegate that function to the Pro specifically.
@@Quad_Father no
Fisheiyy why?
Its really too bad. An all metal hot end or heat break would have made this the shizzle. Not seeing value without it.
dying laughing over here... "It's like a BL Touch, but the BL has been replaced with a CR" hahaha
Funny enough, as identical as they perform, the CR one does it completely differently in therms of the electronics: it uses an optical sensor instead of the Hal effect one of the BL Touch, being thus much less prone to interference.
I like the CR touch more. It doesn't feel as flimsy as the BL which is normally fine but my Sovol SV03 has bent the needle somehow twice on that. With the CR being a direct drop in replacement, it hasn't had that issue and being slightly bigger, the z offset was almost perfect whereas with the BL, you had to send a command to allow offset in the negative to get a proper level. So while it's simple to say it's just a knock off, it's better imo.
Honestly pretty good description lmao
Jesus Christ the good lord loves you all :" )
The s1 is my first 3d printer and It has made amazing prints for me right out of the box. I have printed the boaty and many other calibration type things and all of them came out pretty much perfect with stock settings and the pla filaments I bought to start with (overture brand). I printed a few articulated toys and they worked perfect first run. So far its way less of a pain than I was expecting it to be, very happy with it.
How is the 3D printer holding up for you? I’m looking at getting one as my 1st printer
How's it holding up?
I have one. I can honestly say that I love printing on the S1. It's my first printer and I did a lot of research on UA-cam before deciding on buying. The second runner up was the FLSun speed racer. I wanted a delta printer, so after I attained perfection with the S1, I bought the FLSun. I could not be happier with these two printers. The FLSun is a fast, accurate, and amazing printer to watch. The S1 is just about as good as it gets. I do have to say, that the FLSun SR is especially nice because of the fixed bed. There is no need to level the bed, and one auto bed leveling operation is all you need to do. But getting back to the main topic of the S1. The S1 is worth the money and it's a beautiful piece of technology. I love direct drive extrusion too.
S1 for a 1st? Damn you went in swinging. I hope you're enjoying it
I've been in the same boat, watching and watching loads of reviews and researching and was about to pull the trigger on a prusa, but then saw the fl sun Sr and thought yes then saw the s1 and thought oh and now waiting for the s1 pro to come out, there were others in the line up but couldn't put a nail in the all rounder it's a nightmare trying to choose for a newb that wants to print and not continually tinker and up grade, those deltas look uber cool 👍👍
I love my S1 so much. I've had it operating almost 24/7 for the past month. I exclusively use mine for tabletop gaming scenery pieces so I have only been using PLA at 200/60 with 5%-50% infill depending on what I'm doing. I've been using pretty much the cheapest 10kg at $13/kg PLA+ available through it and haven't had a single issue with it that took longer than 15 minutes to resolve.
Source for that filament? Brand?
@@isaackvasager9957 I too would like the sauce for that filament.
@@BeyondBeleaf I too am curious.
We are collectively curious
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I have the original Ender 3 and have printed hundreds of things on it - this version looks so clean and awesome from the start. Thanks for the video!
It's also over 400 USD. Creality is great at 200 USD, it's a bad buy at 400+.
I’ve had mine for a week. And I’ve had all kinds of issues. Run out sensor will not work when connected to raspberry pie. They asked me to do a firmware update it will not update. All the sudden it totally quit printing altogether so I’m playing a cat and mouse game with Support kind of a pain in the neck. It would’ve been nice if they would’ve told us the pro version was available when I ordered this one last week but now they did not. Back to my Prusa
@@nmfireman out the box its worked good for me so far ,had it for three weeks,after so many hours the metal board didnt hold prints as well,got the glass from creality,that lasted three days and started crapping out,I know there's a handful of variables to watch for, definitely woulda bought the pro,this is my first printer,
@@tommychiletti8506 If you ever take it apart, be carefull not to break the small wires coming out of the heater block. (thermister wires). I was doing some testing and wasn't carefull enough. Now I need to replace my heater block and with no spares to find its just a pain
@D L What the hell are you talking about making anything up. I do love my Prusa and I also like my S1 one but we are having issues when we use it in Prusa slicer. When I start a print up if I don’t warm up the bed and nozzle first it will not print a purge strip. I don’t think the G code is exactly set up for the slicer I was asking for help on this. Why don’t you offer suggestions instead of BS
Fantastic printer - beats the heck out of my old Ender 3 pro. It really makes 3D printing practical. Super quiet, great UI, awesome bed adhesion, outstanding cable management, excellent print quality and very easy setup. I was printing in less than :20 minutes. Best investment I made in 3D Printing. Thumbs up!
great review! 👏
..if it only had full metal hotend at this price.. but I guess would be harder for them to market the S1 Pro then 👀
What is normal percent For X, Y and Z ?
I’ve had my 3S1 for about 2 months now and am SOOO happy I lucked into this as my very first experience with 3D printing.
I am completely new to 3D printing and that flexible bed made me feel like I was Insane and couldn't get the bed level. Finally realized it was the flexible bed and slapped the glass it came with on there and it's been perfect ever since. Love this thing
Have had the S1 for almost 2 months now and for the most part it does well. I did have an issue with the z offset that resulted in the stock bed taking some damage while trying to tune for petg. I've since replaced it with a rough and smooth pei flex sheet and both of those are working well. Note: features like pressure advance were disabled in the firmware and to avoid the constant back and forth of updating firmware, I switched it over to Klipper. Since the S1 is so new there were few resources to help with this, but it was worth the effort. It did highlight one issue, and this just might be my S1, but the USB-C connection drops sometimes. I've tried different raspberry pi's and different cables and the only time i have an issue with any of them is on the S1. I've never lost a print because of this, but sometimes it can take a few minutes to get it up and running. My plan is to replace the controller board with a BTT Pico if it gets any worse. Also, for taller prints, the nozzle would start hitting the previous layers. I ended up loosening up the vertical supports, clamping them in place with a couple squares, re-tightening things, and that appears to have taken care of it.
I am at the 3d meet up in sweden right now
I have been a very happy user of the Ender 3 V2 and I'm stoked to hopefully get an S1 sometime in the near future.
FINISHED! there is a line I have NOT heard in a printer review in a while....
This review is very helpful👍👍
I like the machine, I have 5 of them. However, after 4 months of intensive use they started having problems, but the hardest part is to figure what is happening. Accessing extruders, nozzle, and so on is hard, takes time and replace the whole kit as a quick alternative will cost you at least $100. If I compare this machine and an original CR10 for intensive budget printing, I'd choose 100 times the original CR10. I have 2, after more than 5 years I just replaced the extruder kit and updated the bed. I know, the CR10 is ugly, bulky, and looks cheap but it's just reliable, with great quality and it's easy to fix. Once you level this thing you won't need to do it again. The S1 is a great design probably the best, in my opinion for light use but if you need printing large quantities, long term, this isn't the machine. If you still want to it because, I'll recommend paying for the insurance so you can replace it. I've replaced two of them already after 4 months of work and probably I'll need to replace another two this week. I have other machines industry grade, more expensive ($.1.2K) and the one that has given me the less problems is that cheap CR10 🤔.
Ive been printing with the ender 3 s1 since January. I've modded the heck out of it with sonic pad, gantry light, dual part fans, linear rails, better PEI build plates, upgraded springs, upgraded hot end, I love this machine and dont really get all of the ender haters
got one as my first printer, have put about 4kgs through it now and still love how it performs. ordered the pro hotend from creality as an upgrade. the only issue i have had is the bed not being relatively flat. on small prints it wasnt a problem, i could usually move the location of the print around to find good adhesion. but on bigger prints even with the auto leveling i would have some localized hills where the nozzle would make ghost lines and other areas where the filament would just pop right off. i have had to use a lot of rafts. the other issue is the little spatula that comes with it, mine was stamped metal and no burs were removed. i didnt inspect the tool and on first use trying to separate a part from the bed gouged a line into it. i havent used it since and havent even needed something similar because everything releases well with the spring steel. why even include it if the cheapness makes it a danger to the very product it is supposed to be used on.
any suggestions for a bed upgrade? i love the ease of the spring steel type but if it means having a much flatter surface i might try glass.
Glass would resolve your bed lumps issue, but you'll have to fuss with glue sticks or hairspray whereas my regular ass flexible mat hasn't needed a spray-down/wash in... months. My bed is uneven in the center - a piece of tinfoil underneath solved it, now adhesion is *too* good.
@@ColdSig tinfoil is Genius holy
Even my ender 3 from 2018 worked really well and was quiet. I can only imagine how good this version is.
I can't wait for the Prusa XL video!! I've got one pre-ordered myself! 👍😁
Having one (my first 3D printer) I would say that NOT having a touch screen is great! The knob is fast, precise and - best of all - tactile! E.g. When adjusting z-offset I don't have to look at the screen. One minor gripe though; when moving between icons with the knob, I would have liked the the icon selection order to be go going round like an O; the 'Z' jump movement always surprises me. But. eh, whatever. I also like the SD-Card. Good thing they didn't do a micro!
I have a quite modified Ender 3 Pro and I'm quite happy with it. I'm looking forward for the S1 Pro that can print hotter and includes a PEI metal flex plate. The mods in mine makes it able to print nylon, but the S1 Pro seems like it would be more straightforward
Managed to get one of these for $200, and at that price point this thing is an absolute steal. My Prusa Mini is still a much better printer overall in spite of its smaller build volume (it prints better parts and is hours faster on jobs) , but right out of the box this eliminates 90% of the problems I had with my first Ender 3 (mostly bed leveling and underextrusion) and is actually very usable.
Same
you gotta review the S1 PRO!
I have an Ender 3 V2, and an S1, and the S1 though more expensive gets a lot more work from me now than the V2. For me, it's just a lot more polished and requires a lot let maintenance.
I have had my s1 for a bit now as my first filament printer, I have had a few years with resin.
The only stuff I know about filament going into it was a handful of UA-camrs.
Alright out of the box the thing prints amazing. Once I switched from creality slicer to actual cura (for tree supports).
I have done all kinds of stuff so far including some print in place stuff and it has been absolutely great. Only complaint I have is that it is that it is kinda hard to remove support filament from the build plate, but I'm guessing that is an inexperience issue more than a machine issue.
That comment at the end about it being in big box stores really got me because that's how I got mine lol. Bought it in Microcenter on sale for a hell of a steal
Totally agree with the bed surface comment. I have upgraded our S1's with the double sided PEI...they work "preety freaking" fantastic, currently putting the Build Plate from Wham Bam through its paces.
Your fan comment is right on the money.... call me OCD but we clean our fan every 100 hours or so since our machines are running pretty much 24/7. Now if they only had Silicon Socks in stock for the South Pacific that would be nice.
We did change a few settings for our PETG and carbon filament requirements, other than that we have only come across one issue...two of our machines bed plates will not heat up to the edges arrrrgh!!!!!!! that seems to be fairly common talking with others across the globe with the early releases; but realistically those sized and shaped prints are few and far between for us.
Keep up the great work Joel, Sean and David.
I've had my Ender 3 S1 for about 3 weeks now and absolutely love it. Had to manually level the bed once because one corner was much lower than the others, but since then the auto level has been a dream. Considering that I spent the first 3 months with my original Ender 3 printing mods and ordering better parts, only spending an hour calibrating is well worth the price. Found a fantastic guide for setting up the slicer too and since then my prints have come out incredible. All in all, I absolutely love the Ender 3 S1!
Could you share a link to that guide?
Do you have a link to the guide you used?
Thanks for your thoughts on the S1. I’d love to see you do a video on making the S1 work with octoprint with all the stuff like filament loss working.
We have that all working correctly with our firmware + LCD kit. We fixed all the issues with the software that Creality couldn't do: ua-cam.com/video/PhOI7ccm78U/v-deo.html
Great review Joel. I just wrapped up shooting my review last night and it’s hilariously similar in thoughts. Haha. Only difference is mine got a bit damaged in shipping. But that’s irrelevant to the actual machine. This is a solid “benchmark” in this price range.
Considering the price I am not a massive fan and definitely would not buy one. There have been people having issues with the extruder the cr touch and bed adhesion. How many are having problems I don’t know.
You could get 2 Ender 3pros for about the same or buy one Ender 3 pro and mod it with a better all metal hotend and a new board and a better bed for the same price.
I do agree that not everyone wants to mod things but considering the big price jump I would be buying a different make.
See there is going to be a pro version of this with a all metal hotend at a ridiculous price.
You can only review the printer you get I appreciate and I would not buy this at this price if it was a hundred bucks cheaper maybe.
I have 2 Ender 3s a standard and a pro and to be honest they both print beautifully so at this price it does not interest me.
Interesting to see all the different reviews though I have seen two others so far and do notice that each one does find the price to be too high.
I have the Ender 3 V2 but I still think the S1 is a better deal. I've had to do my own upgrades to boden tubes, bed leveling, and bed springs, but I still can't print flexible filaments and I occasionally suffer from sagging level on one side due to lack of the dual-z axis control. My Ender 3 V2, in short, has now cost about as much as or more than an S1 (not even counting my time investment) and it still lacks in areas the S1 would address.
@@aaronsteers my issues went away when I went with a 3 axis carriage. The stock carriage can become bent when leveling.
Appreciate the Ghostbusters Proton pack spin up sound.
YES!
I wonder if turning the fan upside down would help? But then the air would be going over the extruder motor, that often gets pretty toasty too... but it still might help!
Between you and Uncle Jessie your killing me - was all set to get Neptune 2s; then I see this and I'm doubting myself
I would like a S1 versus prusa!
Prusa gonna win for sure
@@MartinWolker Why is it gonna win, I really want to know
@@TheKdcool The bearings on the linear rods on the prusa are going to last longer than the roller bearings that ride along the aluminum extrusions on the s1. That means more consistent prints that are truer to the gcode for many more hours. Which is important when you print a lot. So after about 200-400 hours the roller bearings are going to need replacing to get the same initial quality where as the Prusa will go well into 2000-3000 hours before you see any noticeable artifacts in prints.
Not sure why creality is still using the roller instead of linear rods. I assume the S1 will be like my other enders in that they work well out of the box, but start having problems as things quickly start to wear out. At this point, my ender 3 spends more time being adjusted than printing, and it still can't print as well as my MK3 which is never down.
Not to mention that you need need to pay $100+ more for the Pro version to get the all metal hot end. At $500+, you're pretty close to the cost of Prusa MK3S+ It's actually significantly more than the Prusa mini
I picked one up as my first real 3D printer. Thank you for the review!
Beginners ask me all the time if they should buy an Ender 3. My answer is always yes if it's all you can afford, but if you can throw more money, buy a Prusa MK3S+ (kit). Its well worth the extra money in my opinion, and the instructions for putting one together are terrific, and I feel assembly helps people better understand how things work.
I was going to go this route, but the 2-3 month wait time was just too long.
@@nunyabizness6734 Is it that long now? I had to wait about 4 weeks a year ago.
@@grantdeisig1360 That's what I seem to recall from the middle of January. If it ever drops down to a week or two I might still put an order in. In the meantime, contemplating a voron build.
i got my ender 3 in august as my first printer and it worked great right out of the box
Really happy with my S1 ❤ prints like a champ and easy to get around!
I just ordered the Ender 3 S1 Pro Version here in Germany. Can´t wait
At around $400 will love to see how it compares to a prusa mini as they are pretty close on price. Sure, it is not as large, but it has an all metal hotend as well as the PEI bed and the amazing support from Prusa. I wonder how it will stack up.
I can confirm that the Slice Engineering Copperhead g2 bimetallic heatbreak is compatible with this printer. They go for about $35 on Amazon and I would highly recommend it as a first upgrade.
I would also recommend against buying a clone as the machining required to make a bimetal heatbreak work properly is super precise.
From 4:17 on, exactly why I'm not going for Creality anymore. I did learn a TON from the previous models, as they indeed needed not only mods.... but MODS! :) There's always something I have to throw in the bin (in this case the sheet and maybe a redesign of the fan) and I just don't like that. With the experience I'm just saving up for something better.
Very subtle "It works, untill it do not!". I did actually lol.
I have an S1 it's my first 3d printer and it fulfilled the reason I wanted it over the cheaper Enders at Microcenter, the easy set up. HOWEVER, I have had bed adhesion and tolerance issues. Also I accidentally set my first print too close and some of that first layer is still stuck in the texture of the build surface. Edit: Upon rewatching I remembered that the fan is also a concern of mine, I wish it cooled from multiple sides.
I litteraly just bought this so now im sitting here watching videos like this to provide myself with the greatest possible buyers remorse.
It could very well be the best Ender ever. At over twice the cost of the original Ender 3, I would hope so. :)
If you factor in the time and money it would take to upgrade an Ender 3 with all the S1 comes with, you might be ahead by just starting with an S1. And for people who just want to print with little to no tinkering involved, the S1 might just be the ticket.
@@nunyabizness6734 the s1 is harder to mod further tho
@@futuremapper_ True.
I could've afforded the S1 a lot more easily than my Ender 3 Pro plus the Micro Swiss extruder and hotend and the SKR E3 Mini I added, but the most fun I've had with my printers came from modifying them. I wouldn't trade that even for a Prusa.
thanks for doing a straight review. a lot of other "reviews" involve a lot of narcacistic show off of some childish sort or another. You're just like "here's the product, here's my experience with the product, here's my opinion of the product"
I'm still pluggin away with my OG 3, adding upgrades when i want/need. Its great to see that creality has added some of the most popular as stock equipment here. That being said if this was out when i got mine, i wouldnt have been able to afford it since im eternally broke xD.
Same XD. I got a cheap used ender 3 at 1/3 the regular used price, that needed a LOT of tlc and work to get back to good quality prints. But we're there! Luckily ive had some good tools on hand, so it was all doable without extra cost. Will get something like a CR 10 next but im still doing better everyday with my ender
Thanks a lot Joel, your voice was heard. Now we need a Creality end printer 400x400x400
I have an 3 ender 5s and got my ender 3 s1 about a month ago .. it has been printing 24/7 for parts manufacturing and I have not had 1 problem yet .. only the bed .. the bed is too good . I have to run a blade under the purge line to get it off it sticks like i said tooo good
Picked it up on sale for 389 AUD (255 USD) Very happy with it
Thank you Joel!
These low-cost printers are certainly getting dialed in…..but I ordered another Prusa kit❤…..which never need any necessary tweaking from print No1😎
with my ender 3 max neo, anycubic neo, and ender 3 s1.... the S1 has given me zero issues other than a nozzle change... anycubic has been a headache and ender 3 max has hiccups but i toss that to lots of large prints constantly running ... I still consider myself a noob and have to say hands down my S1 has been the MOST enjoyable to use
i have one and i love it i recommend buying the ender 3 s1
I love me Ender 3 s1 I bought it on sale at microcenter in the NYC area for 279.00 dollars. in December 22.
I've been looking into this because it has auto-bed leveling! great review!
I have a Ender 6 SE over a year now. And it has been awesome.
The Fan sucking up filament is a concern, however, the 'heat' being pushed through is not. ( I personally don't think) The reason why is, your printing at 200ish. Your bed at 100ish isn't going to have 100ish air above it (thermal capacities, dissipation, etc) and once you begin to circulate air, your mixing the 'hot' with 'cool' - the biggest thing is - the 'hot' air from the bed, is still COLD air compared to the printing temp, by about 100C if not more. It's like if your room heater kicks on pumping out 27C heat to keep the room warm, this is COLD compared to the print temps and bed temps, so if you have ABS going - your probably going to warp thanks to that draft - even though, it's 27C "Heat" What happens on the S1 is similar, your pumping out 100C "heat" being pumped into the fan to "cool" the 200C printing parts, which, doesn't matter, it's still colder than the print temp, so it is 'cold'. Even 'hot air' inside a PC helps keep other parts of the PC 'cool' by keeping the air flowing, it's when the air stagnates and can't move fast enough, and only heats up, that things 'overheat' in a PC.
All that being said, I don't like the 'intake' being on the print side where wisps can be sucked into the fan, even if it doesn't hurt the print, eventually it's gonna clog that fan up.
Also the price. the S1 is just.. not a friendly price range. It's a new concept of an old design, but still lacks some features that would be considered standard at that price range. The 500 to 600 dollar range should be basically the most reliable work horses ever, and the bed and a few other kinks are keeping the S1 from being that work horse. It's like a Prusa price, but without the Prusa reliability- which honestly is the only reason Prusa can be argued to be worth the price range (as the print quality is not drastically better than a stock ender 3 from 2019, but the reliability is years ahead of the ender 3)
If it were $100 cheaper, I'd say go for it, it's not a "workhorse' but your definately getting what your paying for (and you'll probably spend a little on , better beds, etc)
I just can't see the value in a PTFE lined Direct Drive system being more expensive than a non-PTFE lined (all metal) system being cheaper, no matter the gimmicky add ons. (almost all of which are basic improvements considered by the community, like dual Z)
Also 2208's are nice and all, but most are suggesting 2209's in 2022, so they are using a still 'older' driver set and not quite pumping out what most "new" printers are pushing. (like Vorons, Ratrigs, SkTank, etc.) even though most are also moving to 'coreXY design" as the next ting, a good set of 2209's can go a long way. IF the price included 2209's I could say it was close to price range, the biggest issue then only being the PTFE lined hotend - which 100% should be all metal, and the minor problem of the fan angle.
It's nice to see Creality listening to community, making changes, and trying to do better - but they seem to be skipping some of the biggest things desired (all metal hot end) in order for more profits in the long run. I would have rather liked to see this version of the Ender3 delayed 6 months or even a year, make all metal hotends stock, and change that bed out for the price they are asking, the 'fan position' would be a tiny TINY concern then, as the 'value for what I paid" would be tremendous. (assuming they didn't bump up the price) they are working on an all metal hotend anyway for the S1 - to be sold seperately, and I feel this will be like the glass bed the Ender 3 had, where "some" will come with it, and some won't depending on how old of a model you purchased.
Got one from micro center for just $200 and verry happy, thinking of swapping the fan with a 5015 centripital fan and getting a pei bed, but other than that its pretty good
Got mine a couple of days ok. Incredible upgrade on my E3V2. Like he said - build plate isn’t great and will get a pei plate sound. Well worth the £319 I paid.
I've got a 5 year old Cr-10S that I love. I will keep it until it no longer works, but I do want a second, updated machine. I'd prefer to go no smaller than 300x300... I'll still keep this in mind though!
Ended up here looking for S1 Pro review but S1 review was great enough. Certainly getting my first 3D printer. Gonna be an exciting journey. GG Content.
I was waiting for your review now i got a new ender thanks to you happy printing:)
getting really tired of replacing things that break on my ender3 thermistors, tubing, hotends, nozzles, bed leveling all to get useful prints. and then replacment bed are annoying. i really hope this is more reliable and more than just conveniant
Looking to purchase my first 3D printer, and I know absolutely nothing about them... however, the multiple videos I've seen, it looks like this might just be the best beginner printer for me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the subject.
LOVE mine. Absolutely love it. $hits all over my Hemera on my cr10 pro with bltouch. All I am waiting for is the high temp heatbrake I ordered from creality so I can get back to printing my high temp filaments.
It is not silent at all... get ringing in my ears. Other than this, it's super stable, great printer
just ordered mine and then came and watched this 😄
Great review Joel. I hope that Creality extend the upgrades from the 3 S1 to the other bigger models.
I had one in my uni lab. But the bottom rail has a few bumps, now we need to send it back. Sad story
Thank you so much I’m new to 3-D printing and I will be buying this printer
I just got an ender 3 s1 for $260, I’m so excited
Is the CR10 Smart Pro as good?
I just got the Ender 3 S1 Pro, and it's amazing. I've never owned or even used a 3D printer before, so it's taking a lot of learning to get to where I feel like I know what I'm doing, but the prints are great. The machine just works.
That’s great to hear!
@@3DPrintingNerd any advice for getting ABS to stick to the build plate?
I've tried all the settings, leveling, the hairspray trick, everything I can think of. It just doesn't want to stick.
absulately love you joe keep doing what you do
Great review and I totally agree! I love hitting print and it just prints, no worries. I am about to put a pei sheet on it myself because I'm not a huge fan of buildtak surfaces, as they do crap out after a bit. Keep up the great work!
👍 just for Jingle All The Way insert.
got mine about a month and a half back. huge improvement over the ender 3 pro.
Yay! Just bought the S1... aaaand now the S1 Pro is announced. Ugh!
Don't worry too much. The pro really does not offer that much more. The print quality between the two are the same. If you want to upgrade to pro specs, you can, but I'd be happy with the S1.
Based on the glimpse of the screen UI shown, it somewhat resembles what Jyers was doing with the v2 firmware, probably they used his source code as base for this one.
Its pretty much the UI from the CR 6se, just no touch screen
@@aaronbrenkus9126 Are you sure? Because I recall Jeyers making that type of layout for v2.
I have one and yes I did replace the bedsheet. So far I have a problem where the back right of the bed is lifted so far that when I changed the nozzle to the ruby and had to reset the bed I noticed it. The fan has sucked up some stuff but it's okay. I wish that the fan duct was a full circle setup or even offer different setups. I would love to see this on the Ender 5 Plus or even the Cr 10, or even have this as a DIY upgrade system for other printers.
I was considering this one today, but this sold me.
Thanks, I’ll be buying the S1 and laser too… I’m excited to try some basic laser engraving and see if I might invest in a Glowforge or something in the future.
I really liked this review, could you compare it to the Anycubic Vyper in the future because it is one other 3d printer I am considering.
Indeed I think it's a great printer, well thought about it by Creality, I think that the S1 Pro is even better/more improved. I do look forward to get my hands on this printer. Great video Joel
I’m looking into printers for Christmas, never had a 3D printer before but seems like a cool hobby. There’s a few ideas I have already like printing some Replica guns from the game series Destiny and put them on display cuz theres a few I would like to physically display cuz they look so cool. Maybe make some side money too by selling prints lol.
It is pretty cool this printer is still very good but a new great option is the ender 3 v3 se
I have pre-ordered this in Sweden, it's coming in May, costs $500
Thanks was literally trying to decide if I should get the S1
Hey! :) You should make a video talking about the new CR-10 Smart Pro which is one of the newest Creality releases ;) Great video btw.
Are you planning on reviewing the S1 Pro? It would be really helpful!
I gave up trying to avoid glue stick. It's far cheaper then replacing the bed and clean up in the kitchen sink only takes a few seconds.
I have been using the S1 for a month now. Two issues that I have encountered: 1: The Sprite Extruder is NOT All Metal, and replacing the PTFE is a nightmare. 2: Bits and pieces of the build plate started coming out, after printing PETG.
PETG is weird, I've had the best results printing on glass with glue on top (proper liquid wood glue dried out mind you, not glue stick). Never tried plain glass from the horror stories, I remember trying PEI and it was also annoying.
EDIT: I wonder if this bed would work properly with the PVA wood glue on top as I do on glass...
Use a flex plate pei bed. You can spray a little windex on it if the bond is too strong.
I own 3 Elegoo machines because of Uncle Jessy and am pretty new to the 3d world but have always been an artist. I have enjoyed my trails but man have I made so many costly mistakes. I am guessing you guys both have made mistake videos but I think you guys both should get peoples intakes on top of your own "OOOPS". I have plenty to offer of what not to do. ANd what to do do after you do a not to do! Oh and I am in Tacoma, would it be cool to visit some day?
I had so many people telling me to buy a Ender 3 when I was looking for a second printer next to my Tevo Tornado.
“Yeah you can upgrade it and tinker with it.....”
FFS I just want to print.. why should the printing hobby be about tinkering and making the printer better? I just want to print my designs and yeah that means i have to fix things now and then and tinker with temps/layer heights but that’s it.
So this looks like a much better option for me. But I think there are better and cheaper options to compete with this.
So close to my CR6-SE. I kind of wish it had a touch probe. The strain gauge can be a pain with bed detection.
I used to have one keyword USED to have on. It was a great machine but unfortunately it stopped heating both the nozzle and bed but everything you said about the s1 is all true it is a truly great machine but it is sad that it broke
Yo Joel are you ever going to do a review on the sprite extruder upgrade for the standard Ender 3
I bought the upgrade kit and it had been really great
I'm using the original spring steel sheet, but not the original surface. I ripped the coating off and replaced it with a PEI sticker. It's amazing. Took way too damn long though.
Mine never got to the point of bad adhesion, the cat test print stuck so well that it took part of the surface off with it.
I said this a couple times but now I think I'm sure, this will be my next printer. I've had all the ender 3's, except this one, and right now I have the ender 2 Pro and CR6SE, which is almost the same, but I think I want direct drive for TPU.