How much POWER does my KTM 690 SMC R make?! | DYNO RUNS
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
- Ahh yes the dyno, the illusive beast to witch we sacrifice our fuel, money and time to squeeze every ounce of power out of our machines..
Well in this case I lost HP and gained TQ?! How does that happen! Anyway..
71hp / 56tq..
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Motorcycle
2021 KTM 690 SMC R
Bike Mods
- FMF 4.1 Slip-On Exhaust
- Custom Install - Check my channel for the full video!
- DynoJet Power Commander 5
- Custom Tune from Rottweiler Performance
- Rottweiler Performance Fuel Dongle
- Misc. bling bits
- eBay Seat Cover
- Plasti-dip wheels
- Tekmo Carbon Fiber swing arm guards
- Tekmo Carbon Fiber Skid Plate
- Tekmo Carbon Fiber Engine cases
- ASV Shorty Clutch Lever
- ASV Shorty Brake Lever
- Amazon Parts..
- Berotec Cumpan Cockpit Assistant
- Rottweiler Intake
- Rottweiler SAS Delete Kit
- More to come!¬¬
Camera Gear
- Sony a7c
- Rode VideoMicro Mic
- DJI Mic
- Tamron 17-28 f/ 2.8
- Sigma 24-70 f/2.8
- Insta360 X3
- Insta360 GO3
- GoPro HERO 9
- GoPro Media Mod
- Hama Laptop Microphone
- DJI Mini 3 Pro
Riding Gear
- Icon Variant w/ Gold Chrome Visor
- Shoei X-14 Pull & Bear 73 edition
- Airoh Aviator 3 Helmet
- Oakley Airbrake MX Goggles
- Icon Contra 2 Perforated Leather Jacket
- Shift MX Gloves
- Alpinestars SP-2 v2 Gloves
- Alpinestars Track Suit - Авто та транспорт
when a manufacturer states their horse power its at the crank not to the rear wheel. so your bike is on par as to where it should be.
thanks for stopping by! glad we could help identify some possible issues with the tune! come back any time!
I'll have to swing by for a custom tune once the deep freeze lest up and we are riding again!! Thank you for hosting me and what a killer facility!!
but isnt in that the manufacturer hp ammount is not measured "on the wheel " ? the loss you see is friction, chan, aand rotation of the wheel and they measure HP without all that
Im excited for this one! Im guessing 80 before vid with our mods!
i have the gasgas 700sm 2023 euro version and here we are not putting pc5 on it but directly remapping the Keihin ECU and it's a lot more efficient as my gasgas is now running 81hp at the crank and 76 at the rear wheel with the tekmo full exhaust, the Rottweiler sas delete kit and the Dna open filter.
INSANE!! I feel like a few tune tweeks and it would come out a hare better but I'm going to try some different dynos come summer to see..
Replaced exhaust and "open" intake and program the ecu, do you get +5hp?
how did you make work DynoJet Power Commander 5 for 2021 bike? Is it EURO 5 ? Cause as I know it works inly for EURO 4 ?
Back when I ordered a PC they only had the 5, the 6 wasn't released yet, but I am not sure if it is EURO 5 compatible..
Great vid, don’t chase the hp dragon just go have fun, there is always something out there with more hp.
Couldn't agree more! This was pretty cool tho, have never had a bike on the dyno
Is it wheel horse power vs manufacturer quoted engine horse power, if that's the case your bike has improved?
The number from KTM is an engine number where I was able to calculate a wheel number. From what everyone else is saying its right on par? Dyno's are new to me haha
I have a 2019 Ktm 690, and about two weeks ago I took mine to a dyno & I got 80 hp.
Dang!! The guys told me that some of these numbers are "dyno dependent" based on the calibration of the actual machine.. So I think I'll have to try a different dyno to compare the numbers..
Hey. What kind of software you used for flashing ecu?
I use the DynoJet software for my Power commander 5, I'm pretty sure Midwest Tuning used/uses the same DynoJet software
Yeah you didn't lose any power. You gained power. Wheel horsepower is less than crank HP that the manufacturer tells you. I think around 13% less. So 71 wheel HP is like having is like 81 crank HP. I Have seen stock ones make 59HP on the wheel dyno.
Yes and no. The 71hp is already the power at the crankshaft. You are right, that the manufacturer's specification refers to the engine power and that the measurement on a Dynojet measures the power at the rear wheel. However, in this case the 71hp is a theoretical value, which is calculated by the Dynojet software to estimate engine power. A stock 690/701 makes between 70 to 75hp on the dyno.
9:00 interesting that the red (first?) run at the 4500-5000 rpm it’s at the 13 AFR then for the green/blue runs it has the lean spot there. Even notice the red line has more power due to the fuel in that spot as well
Also on Rottweiler’s video where they tune a 700 gas gas they have the afr at a very steadyhigh 12 low 13 through the whole run. LA and Chicago are only 200 feet apart in elevation so the afr should be similar
A Powercommander doesn't tune very stable with big load. Values can vary on every run because the crank signal for the rpm jumps pretty bad because it's a single cylinder and the pickup rate is too slow. At least that's what I noticed when trying things^^
@@oom_701 makes sense. An almost 2 AFR jump is a little concerning to me. Wonder if that’s why I’ve seen tuners tune these bikes closer to mid/high 12 AFR so you have a bigger safety net. So then I’m assuming this is only really issue on a 100% throttle run where the throttle is snapped open. Have you found then that it’s best to roll into the throttle (albeit very fast roll) to 100% than just to crack it open as far as trying to keep a flat AFR line?
@@WiscoSumo snapping the throttle open or rolling on the trottle doesn't make a difference. As soon the engine got load the rpm signal jumps up and down especially in lower rpm. But tuning from 12.5 - 13.2 afr should be fine
@@oom_701 thanks for the info!
SuWeet car! SuWeet bike!!
Thank you!!
great video, did you ever figured out what happened to the power commander that fucked up?
Nothing.. DynoJet never bench tested it and I assume just threw it out.. It was basically "ah well warranty for a new one"
@@LifeWellRidden hope the same thing doesn't happens to mine, I've installed it, winterized my bike and put a noco lithium battery in it but waiting on Rottweiler intake that is BO to start the bike. I must have some kind of disease or winter boredom because I can't stop upgrading stuff on the bike. Last week I've installed a scott's damper.
@@Mitchcay Hahah a disease 🤣 I ahve the same condition hahah winter is here and mods are starting..
might if been worth trying baffles in and out for your fmf pipe if it has one. with the baffle in on my wings it feels like its a bit happier and pulls harder but might be talking 2-3hp not major different.
That would be an interesting comparison.. I have never had the baffle in since install haha
@LifeWellRidden almost every bike will make more power with the baffle in.
@@daddysenpai681 interesting.. is that because of back pressure? I’d have to try it but hard to give up such a great sound!
@LifeWellRidden pretty much. It's not going to make it everywhere though. Typically you'll get a slight reduction in top end but a noticeable difference in low-mid torque. For 99% of people, low-mid range torque is where you want the extra power because it's actually usable.
@@daddysenpai681 you are so correct, the more power down low is way more usable! I’ll have to give it a shot 🤔 thank you!!
690 Ktm vs 701 Husky which should I go with????
same bike , pick the color you like ... ktm , husky , gas gas
Exactly what @796andy2 said, honestly pick the color and some small features.. the 701 has a loinger seat and square headlight, the GasGas 700 has solid wheels, no spokes, but other then the basics its based on preference!
They make around 60 on wheel stock, nothing to wright home about 😅
My guess is that the huge stock airbox creates resonance that helps the top end but not so much the mid range. I'd take the mid range.
Yeah I’ll probably take the mid range unless it’s a track day on a long track when I need it 🙃
What did you expect, you can't just put the silencer from a 450 on a 700. The volume of the FMF is far too low for the 690 and you can't solve the problem by just removing the baffle.
Sell the muffler and buy a used Akrapovic or Leovince designed for your model year. My 2019 690 makes 81hp and 62ft-lbs on the dyno with a Euro4 Akra I bought from eBay for less than half the price you paid for the FMF.
This is true.
more important question - how much vibration!
Youd be sup[rised its actually not THAT bad! Compared to a "street bike" its littel vibration but if you ride a 450/500 and jump on a 690 it feels smooth as butter haha
@@LifeWellRidden i'm currently stuck on 125cc _(157fmi)_ to make that thing goes anywhere i have to red-line it, so it's a pure pain 🫨
but in winter time _(with snow and ice)_ going fast is not so important, but for summer time i planning to buy used 690 w/o balancing shaft, hope it will be better 😑
@@chiboreache I think it will be wayyy better then what ya have now hahah a world of difference for ya!
mine made 83whp i had the rottweiler intake and an arrow exhaust. i think youre losing power on your tune. have a tuner put it on the dyno and tune your specific bike.
No way!! Alright then I have to have a pro do this..
Since no aftermarket performance parts are ever available for Ducatis I guess us 698 riders will just accept our position in life...............or...........maybe there is an extra 10-20% lurking in it like on all other modern Ducatis.
I bet that thing will be a beast! They claim an extra 7hp with an Akro exhaust?? That would be insane just from that!
And the lesson is, dont mess with factory settings they spend millions getting a motor reliable and efficient
71 whp is over 80 bhp
Not bad.. I feel like I need to do a better job on some of these informational videos when I have no clue how it works..
are you aware every single motorcycle / vehicle on earth thats sold by a major manufacturer is rated at the flywheel, not the tire/wheel.
anddd dynos's lose 15% hp when comparing to flywheel numbers.... that is why 707hp hellcats dyno at 580ish hp and so on. its like this for everything.
so you constantly stating flywheel numbers, then debating wht the wheel hp is, is pretty funny.
I know some about it but figured it would be fun to see haha not claiming to be accurate in my videos just trying to have some fun haha trust me you and almost everyone else on the internet know more than me when it comes to this stuff
@@LifeWellRidden right on man, wasnt trying to push buttons or anything, just thought it was funny.
but yes, all car/motorcycles are rated at the crank or flywheel... not the wheel/tire and there is a 15% loss between the 2.. brands do this so they can always "say" the highest hp.... but to customers in the real world, wheel hp, is all that matters.
you can compare ANY vehicles brands hp claims, then go watch a dyno video. dyno will ALWAYS be less than claimed brand hp number... example: 707hp hellcats only make about 580wheel hp.
@@707LAKE That is crazy to me.. I mean brands gotta do what sells best haha It's definitly been a fun learning experience and to see wherte this bike actually stacks up. Thank you for throwing the knowledge my way!
🤔 something doesn't seem right with this 🤔🤷
I kind of figured that too.. then again I have no idea the technical details around all the tuning/dynos/manufacturer power numbers.. but I would have thought to be more?
Exactly. I mean it's obvious it makes more than stock. You can feel that for sure. I am guessing those numbers would be about 7-10 less on a stock one tho
@@22smcrrider96 I agree.. I guess the biggest thing is the feel is better, power delievery is smoother and it's just fun haha
@@LifeWellRidden absolutely right! IDC what a Dyno says I know what brain says when I twist the throttle! It's def way better than Stock!
@@22smcrrider96 agreed!! It is hard to play the number games haha you want so much more but I’m not a good enough rider for more power 🤣