Genetic Testing and Disc Herniations for Dogs
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- Опубліковано 1 січ 2022
- Hey everybody. I got asked to make a video to hopefully clear up some points of confusion as they pertain to genetic testing for disc herniations in dogs. I figured I would spend the christmas holiday weekend using @DrCellini 's studio to film an episode for this topic. Let me know in the comments if anything is still unclear!
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I just saw you on your brother's channel!! I am so thankful for vets! My pookie lived to be 17!! You make the world a better place!
Thank you!
I'm so glad you spoke to charging breed shapes especially with Frenchies and other breeds who suffer from so many problems from this type of breeding.
Also, can you speak on why Greyhounds tend to have the propensity for ostosarcoma? I know other breeds tend to get cancer more than others too but I have a Greyhound so I worry about that.
Hello. 2nd year vet student. From the U.S. studying in the UK. Can't wait to learn from your channel! Thank you for filling this gap for future and current vets in the youtube community.
Thank you and good luck. Happy to help in your process any way I can.
I started with following your brother. Then, found your channel! This is one of the biggest surprises as I ultimately want to become a vet!!!
Happy to hear that!
I give my clients the same jelly donut speech, almost verbatim.
A tale as old as time
Love your channel!
Interesting! Thank you for your input.
Glad it was helpful!
happy new year Dr. Cellini
Thank you you too!
Good video, very informative 👍🏼
Awesome great to hear!
Great content as usual. Have you and Dr.Cellini thought about a video about the differences in clinical signs associated with disc herniation in dogs and humans?
no but wouldn't be a bad idea
Hi Dr!! Awesome video. It'd really be helpful to have a video on types of IVDD treatments for different stages of impact. My dog an 11 y.o. flat coated retriever got an IVDD surgery but his recovery is about 60-70%. There is so much misinformation on surgical and nonsurgical options. Having a Dr dispell some of the myths would really be helpful to owners
More Frenchies! Great video, easy to understand. Thanks for making the topic a little less scary, I'm sure that you put some minds at ease. Happy New Year! 💙
Happy new year and thanks for watching!
Think you won me over for favorite Cellini brother. Don’t tell Michael
think i will tell him actually
I’m following you from Honduras🇭🇳.
Wouldn’t it make sense that good nutrition (species appropriate diet) and exercise would slow down the degeneration process?
Breeders NEED to do health testing, care about health over looks! Thanks for the info!👍🏻
Worth mentioning though that disc aging causes back pain -- ask a 60-80 year old human! -- so CDDY dogs without IVDH probably do experience more bouts of back pain in their lifetime than other dogs. Counseling people to recognize this can help these dogs live better lives.
Love your videos!! Found your channel through radiologist Dr. Cellini. My dog had a great outcome from hemilaminectomy surgery and inspired me to shadow his surgeon and eventually become a vet myself!
That’s great! Are you a vet now or are you in process of becoming a vet?
@@DVMCellini Thanks for the reply! I'm in my first year out as a general practice veterinarian :)
Great video, like always, but still waiting for the Hamster one 😂
I know I know 😂.
Thanks for a great video! I found your explanation really useful and informative.
I have a follow up question and comment on exercise and prevention of IVDD/IVDH.
My question is why is it common sense that dogs who have experienced IVDD shouldn’t jump or use stairs anymore even after rehabilitation? What’s the common sense based on?
Looking at dachshunds, from Dachslife 2015 and the Andersen and Marx thesis, for example, the results show that dachshunds that were allowed to move freely and jump and use stairs had a lower level of IVDD/IVDH than those whose movement was limited. Hunting dogs who move constantly in uneven terrain also had lower levels.
Researchers such as Stigen, Proschowsky and Nørgaard have posited that circulation is needed to keep the nucleus of the discs from “drying out” and becoming calcified and movement stimulates this.
This seems like a catch 22 situation to me:
All Dachshunds with IVDD should limit movement to avoid IVDH - all Dachshunds have a degree of IVDD - ergo all Dachshunds should limit movement - but science shows that limited movement for Dachshunds result in increased risk of IVDH...
I’m a bit stuck on this conundrum, which leads me to my comment on IVDD prevention. More and more countries are implementing IVDD x-ray screening for dachshunds, because of the well documented connection between calcifications and higher risk of disc herniation and the fact that IVDD has a high level of heritability (ca 0.6). So, selecting the best half of the population with the least calcifications for breeding can reduce the levels of IVDD in the breed.
Excellent Content! Do you speak at any CE events?
I've done some local CE talks but nothing big. Wouldn't mind the opportunity though.
Can you make a video on “Pug Myelopathy”
Hi Dr Cellini, i am not a vet, i am a long time Dachshund lover. Did you read about the study that was done at UC Davis about disc disease(dachshunds and Nova Scotia duck tollers). Our family had dachshunds for ages. not all of them developed IVDD ! yet, all of them had achondroplasia. Another new-ish development: Some EU countries started screening dogs for IVDD (dachshunds): Finland and now in Germany: doing xrays and evaluating young adult dogs, before breeding them. Even at the age of 2-3yrs, there are already changes in some individuals. I was following your brother, but now i must follow you also! Our last Dachsie passed last year at age 19.5. he had 2 surgeries: one herniation in the neck and about a year later in the lower back T12-T13-L1. Surgery was done at the university of Guelph, Canada.
Yeah I’ve seen those studies you mentioned they’re all pretty interesting (and needed).
This was very interesting. So seems like maybe the test isn't necessary? Good seeing u at your brother's! Nice surprise!
I think its main use is to test dogs who you're going to breed, to make sure they're homozygous N/N (2 normal copies) and no CDDY mutations are present. Otherwise it doesn't really tell you much because it doesn't predict anything other than simply saying "risk is higher".
@@DVMCellini oh I see mostly useful when u buy a super expensive dog from a breeder. Thanks for the explanation 👍
Dex has back issues. Might have come from service, retired mwd I know people are surprised about a chi mix. We try to keep him not zooming and all that. But he needs daily baths because he has AD. I wonder if genetic testing might be useful? And no, this dog is not breeding. It’s more his life
Hello . Sending greetings from my country Kurdistan region of Iraq . Nice information .
Greetings to you as well! Thank you:
Hello from a first year vet student! Do you ever encounter rat terriers with spinal disease? We have a dog with what seems to be a degenerative disease and many docs and neuros are having difficulty with his complicated case.
Yeah rarely though. Kind of an uncommon breed to begin with.
I have seen a rat terrier with GME. He was treated successfully with immunosuppressive drugs. He ended up passing from kidney disease.
Have you ever seen a dog with a Pneumorrhachis? If so how did they present, what caused it and how did you treat it?
l don’t know what that is
@@DVMCellini gas accumulation within the spinal canal. I had a border collie with hindlimb ataxia so we did a CT. Images were sent to a radiologist and when we got the report back we were like, well what do we do with that. I resorted to googling cases and the ones I came across were seen in dogs with traumatic injury or recent surgery and I can say with absolute certainty my dog had neither. A hemilaminectomy was done and she did well but to this day I wonder what caused it.
Do you mainly work on dogs/cats day to day as a vet? What are some more uncommon animals you have as patients? Ever any farm animals?
These days it’s 99% dog and cat. I’ve seen and mri’d some farm animals before back in my New Mexico days as a resident. Those were wild cases - sheep with listeria, pigs with strokes, hawks with brain parasites. Wild stuff.
@@DVMCellini Wow that is amazing!!!! Thank you for the reply!
DR Chellini... what state do you practice in?. Would like to bring a pet to see you... thanks
email me at dvmcellini@gmail.com we can talk about it
Why the focus on French Bulldogs when other breeds like Dachshunds, Beagles, and Cavalier King Charles Spaniels are at a 97%+ risk? Just curious!
I am Japanese vet. I am going to go NCSU two weeks later. I want to know internship!!!
What do you want to know?
@@DVMCellini I have watched your video.ua-cam.com/video/pR6XmPSjxIs/v-deo.html
I want to know how to be chosen internship , for example English skill ......
You are his brother? Same last name. Aren't you in Australia?
new england. close.
Y do the spinal cord herniate up? I would think it would follow gravity, not defy it.
You mean the disc? The forces put on it by the spinal column squeeze it up (basically). Kind of like when you smush a toothpase roll in your hand. Or like how a stress ball gets smushed through your index finger and thumb when you squeeze it.
@@DVMCellini are the forces from the natural curvature of the spine? If so, what can be done to avoid it?
yes but sometimes the disc herniates in other directions too, its just that when that happens its not a big deal compared to herniating towards the spinal cord. we think reducing high impact activities can maybe help prevent it but certainly doesn't remove risk entirely. often times discs herniate for no obvious reason and its kind of a predestined thing.
@@DVMCellini when someone twists to pop their back, does that have any impact on this? Do dogs twist like that? Also, what does it look like if the nucleus pulposus causes stenosis on the cord? I know that would cause pain and maybe paralysis, but what about conflicting with action potentials for the nervous system?