Ep 8 | " Will amaZulu Let A Tsonga Lead Them " ?

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  • Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
  • Radical Conversations with Hlanganane Malungane is a South African Podcast that explores the deeper meaning into South African realities through conversation.

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  • @ZuluMason
    @ZuluMason 2 місяці тому +19

    This channel deserves more views, the most relevant. I am Zulu, I wish I could add a grassroot zulu perspective but ubaba nailed most of this.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +6

      @ZuluMason we comment added to the validity of the analysis. Straight from the source. ✅

    • @Azikhale_
      @Azikhale_ 2 місяці тому

      You're an ANC comrade you hate the MK you're pushing propaganda 😂😂😂 voetsek

    • @Sky-dv8mj
      @Sky-dv8mj Місяць тому

      MK is fighting for Zuma territory. Zuma ate the state money with his family alone. U can c that on his neighbours. People around him they surfferd in front of him, he chose to enrich Indian family than his nation but now the very same victims they are the ones spitting fire fighting for him to be restored as God. Bakithi what is wrong with us?

  • @mfanafuthimzulwini9311
    @mfanafuthimzulwini9311 2 місяці тому +38

    I am Zulu and an MK supporter, yes Zuma played a huge role in getting this party this far. I would gladly vote for Floyd if in future he becomes a leader, some of us voted for EFF in KZN CIC is not from kzn but we believed in what he represents

    • @NtangaMagalela
      @NtangaMagalela 2 місяці тому +1

      Hlophe he did

    • @Bennylebea
      @Bennylebea 2 місяці тому +1

      But as soon as MK came, eff lost a lot of kzn vote

    • @nontuthuzelombo1923
      @nontuthuzelombo1923 Місяць тому

      No there 's no iissue there ,the problem is brought by the media to make people not support the Mkp.You are mistaken. I'm not a politician but i support all progressive parties including Mkp

    • @sibongisenikhumalo8198
      @sibongisenikhumalo8198 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Bennylebeainteresting take 🤔

  • @herbertzwane-w8n
    @herbertzwane-w8n 2 місяці тому +17

    Yes we will vote for him if he is elected as a leader, we did to Mandela , Mbeki, Ramaposa , why not

  • @remembersambo3473
    @remembersambo3473 2 місяці тому +23

    But Zulus and Tsongas intermarry, and in KZN there's a lot of AmaThonga/VaTsonga. These 2 S.African tribes have a lot in common even their surnames are found in both Zulus and Tsongas.

    • @emmahbaloyi3558
      @emmahbaloyi3558 Місяць тому +2

      True

    • @Eddymaf
      @Eddymaf Місяць тому +2

      Shangaan is a nation wich was birthed from an integration of Zulu people sent to Mozambique and ,Tsonga,ndau,different ethnic groups merged in to the new nation hence some shangaan people have Zulu ,Tsonga,ndau,etc surnames

    • @remembersambo3473
      @remembersambo3473 Місяць тому +1

      @@Eddymaf Shangaan is not a nation but a clan among Tsonga people hence they speak XiTsonga. These people were Ndwandwes not Zulus but Ndwandwes were defeated by Shaka then their kingdom fell. Those Ndwandwes that left with Soshangaan later named themselves Shangaans after they assimilated to the Tsongas, those who remained became Shaka's subjects and assimilated to Zulu.

  • @olando120
    @olando120 2 місяці тому +5

    I am a proud Zulu from KZN and an MKP sympathizer...I am looking forward to Floyyd Shivambu future presidency, of the party and government!

  • @sabeloshabangu1485
    @sabeloshabangu1485 2 місяці тому +9

    Im Zulu i would vote for Shivambu any day his a very intelligent person

    • @Sky-dv8mj
      @Sky-dv8mj Місяць тому

      B4 anything u put tribalism first that's u. U don't care what your Zulu man did or not did u just go after like a sheep 😅😅

  • @nhlakahlongwane
    @nhlakahlongwane 2 місяці тому +8

    I'm a zulu and mkp member i don't see a problem with shivambu being an mk president

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      @nhlakahlongwane OK. Let's wait and see if the majority feels the same.

  • @somaphungarsa
    @somaphungarsa 2 місяці тому +6

    No this tribalism thing is over I believe we South Africans are no more near that except that you media we normally hear that from you but here on the ground we reject tribalism we are fully aware that we all Azanians

  • @governormadea5937
    @governormadea5937 2 місяці тому +34

    I lived in KZN for nearly 15 years as a none native and never had issues. Think the tribalism is overblown

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +3

      You should watch Seputla Sebogodi ( Kenneth Mashaba) interview on David Mashabela's podcast.

    • @ohlangeni
      @ohlangeni 2 місяці тому +12

      I know that interview. It says nothing surprising since Zulu, Swati, and Xhosa speakers prefer Zulu soapies.
      That is because the dialect spoken in Northern KZN (now called Zulu) is closer to all 3 dialect even to isiNdebele.
      It is arguably, the most "palatable" (i.e posh) among Nguni dialects.
      That is what drives the dominance of the Zulu language.
      Its true that Nguni people do prefer being led by a Nguni (as Tsonga, Tswana, Pedi people also do).
      However, I also believe the "Zulu tribalism" card is overblown.
      People are just gatvol of ANC of Ramaphosa.
      Compare the performance of the ANC led by Ramaphosa in 2019 where most ANC votes come from KZN.
      Yet, after poor performance (and selling out) of Ramaphosa, Black people (including people of KZN) flipped to new parties. Again, not to the IFP but to MK and EFF

    • @Inprogress_of_newbeginings
      @Inprogress_of_newbeginings 2 місяці тому +1

      Not sure what you're comment about living in KZN has to do with political loyalties.

    • @elvinnybonjovi10
      @elvinnybonjovi10 2 місяці тому +5

      I don't know as well why you start a conversation about tribalism which I think is far fetched

    • @TholeNdlovu
      @TholeNdlovu 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ohlangenithese two idiots are sitting on this podcast being tribalistic and claing us to be tribalistic. Even worse Tsongas have blood ties to us and that's how they think. Eff had more votes than IFP in KZN but we vote based along tribe lines

  • @briankubheka4424
    @briankubheka4424 2 місяці тому +11

    Wow. Yet the ANC won the kzn province for the first time under the precidency of Thabo Mbheki who as far as i know is Xhosa speaking...and to blame floyd for the perfomance of EFF in KZN is rather unfortunate. The party dropped nationally if im not mistaken.

    • @blackeror
      @blackeror 2 місяці тому +1

      No you are wrong the EFF only dropped ib the province of KZN in all the other provinces it did not drop the National Drop is actually coming from KZN.

  • @DingaanSebelebele
    @DingaanSebelebele 2 місяці тому +13

    This is pure teaching, street teaching. You gents are extremely intelligent.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the support. We planning on bringing you more informative content.

    • @sunnyboyselepe5525
      @sunnyboyselepe5525 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you very much

  • @machelarameetse7739
    @machelarameetse7739 2 місяці тому +4

    I think we need to Understand mk is not a province thing but national so there is nothing wrong about having a nun Zulu leadership. That is the truth.

  • @Princemazibuko664
    @Princemazibuko664 2 місяці тому +10

    This is foolish question sies! We voted Ramaphosa as a Pedi in KZN. we love all tribes this is not about Zulus. MK gets support from all tribes why can't Floyd lead MK

    • @lolo_0312
      @lolo_0312 2 місяці тому

      Go and swim....if u don't like what are the zulus are saying.....kingdom of the NGUNIs.....how bout that?

    • @sunnyboyselepe5525
      @sunnyboyselepe5525 2 місяці тому +1

      Ramaphosa is Venda, so if you voted him without knowing that, maybe revisit your argument.

  • @Gilbarco-o7i
    @Gilbarco-o7i Місяць тому +2

    Not if the Soshangana Rebellion never happened.
    This is mission impossible.

  • @justiscele6806
    @justiscele6806 2 місяці тому +13

    Mandela and Mbeki led us so why not Shivambu

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Let's wait and see. Maybe he'll lead.

    • @QhawelethuNgubane707
      @QhawelethuNgubane707 2 місяці тому

      𝙔𝙀𝙎 𝙃𝙀 𝘾𝘼𝙉 𝙇𝙀𝘼𝘿​@@NTVZ_production

    • @kennethkgole100
      @kennethkgole100 2 місяці тому +1

      Xhosa Nd Zulu same WhatsApp group

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      @@kennethkgole100 I agree with you same WhatsApp group.
      We are all South Africans.
      Different but still South Africans.

  • @phumelelomthimude8082
    @phumelelomthimude8082 2 місяці тому +5

    This conversation is not progressive, we don't care who leads if they have our best interest at heart then that's it.

  • @youthinactiontv647
    @youthinactiontv647 2 місяці тому +2

    Grootmans, the day you decide to discuss issues that affect our youth, please invite me to the show ❤
    I am the founder of a youth organization, and it would be an ecstatic privilege to be part of the wisdom u impart to us.

  • @zodwagumede5700
    @zodwagumede5700 Місяць тому +2

    Loyal supporters of the MKP are mostly amazulu we support Shivambu we are appreciate him he's welcome in Mkp

  • @lorramokoka7778
    @lorramokoka7778 2 місяці тому +1

    Woo shem what a lovely show post more political discussions that was very insightful. Please explain what do you mean there's no VBS

  • @thembamthimbanator8666
    @thembamthimbanator8666 2 місяці тому +4

    I am assuming that this recording was prior the Gauteng Ground Forces briefing that was held in Soweto cos most uncertainties were responded to. I love the content, great stuff.

  • @ngoakosemenya5890
    @ngoakosemenya5890 2 місяці тому +2

    re tla re ke dipitsi ra bona ka mabala 😂😂😂thanks my brother for bringing people like Mr selepe ❤❤❤

  • @PhilaniButhelezi-mm6fj
    @PhilaniButhelezi-mm6fj 2 місяці тому +3

    Remember the enemy is also commenting causing more divisions between the MK and Eff. Mk and Eff must work together so we bring land to its rightful owners

  • @ZiziphoLubelwana
    @ZiziphoLubelwana 2 місяці тому +3

    This is probably going to be one of your most viewed videos, beautiful conversation. new subscriber

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Welcome to the channel Zizipho feel free to express yourself. Even if you disagree with us. ✊

    • @mayormsuthu1465
      @mayormsuthu1465 2 місяці тому

      Not really

  • @SithembeleMadlala-j9f
    @SithembeleMadlala-j9f Місяць тому +2

    I want to open the poor suffering citizens of S.A. Iyes and change their mind set from depending in the so called Social grant and uplift the Unemployment organizations to Unite and fight fight against this inhumanity and crime which is the Strategic planning of this GNU confusion.

  • @TsholofeloPheto
    @TsholofeloPheto 2 місяці тому +4

    I ❤ the consistency. Already can't for Episode 9.

  • @MuziLanga-mt5fd
    @MuziLanga-mt5fd 2 місяці тому +4

    Even Soweto locations are located on tribes formation.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Muzi facts but when you bring that up people will accuse you of being tribalistic. Just by quoting facts, that's why we as South Africans are far from answers.

  • @ThaboDiki
    @ThaboDiki 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant analysis......spot on.....

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Wait until you listen to the next Episode. 🔥

  • @xolanimngcwabeothandaabazi6666
    @xolanimngcwabeothandaabazi6666 2 місяці тому +1

    Umhrabulo at its highest best, I'm proud of this guys,politically astute, till.next time

  • @princeshaun7725
    @princeshaun7725 2 місяці тому +1

    i love your content guys...much respect

  • @muapostolamashudushudu7991
    @muapostolamashudushudu7991 2 місяці тому +1

    Yaaaa mdala, you was a good listener at school, and you fit to be a preacher as well

  • @welilejiba316
    @welilejiba316 2 місяці тому +2

    amaZulu NOT ZULUS!!!! as black SAns, the least we can do is respect and understand how to address each other.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks Welile for the correct. We will fix it... Personally we didn't know the wording was offensive.

  • @jerrymasinga7829
    @jerrymasinga7829 2 місяці тому +1

    NTVZ production team, I hope you're doing well. I wanted to share some feedback with you about your show. I really enjoy the content and appreciate the effort you put into creating it. However, I think there's an opportunity to enhance the visual quality. Perhaps consider investing in better camera equipment or collaborating with a camera professional who can help optimize lighting and framing.
    I believe this would elevate the overall production value and make the show even more engaging for viewers. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to seeing future episodes

  • @sunnyboyselepe5525
    @sunnyboyselepe5525 2 місяці тому +2

    This is a conversation, don't critique only. Please give a different view from us

  • @NosiphoSibisi-j4v
    @NosiphoSibisi-j4v 2 місяці тому +7

    Umsangano lona okhulunywa lana mk yawowonke muntu South africa

    • @justiscele6806
      @justiscele6806 2 місяці тому +2

      @@NosiphoSibisi-j4v cha laba baphathi bohlelo babeke isihloko ukuthi sixoxe ngaso hhayi ukuthi sixabane

    • @QhawelethuNgubane707
      @QhawelethuNgubane707 2 місяці тому +1

      𝙐𝙢𝙨𝙖𝙣𝙜𝙖𝙣𝙤 𝙡𝙤 𝙬𝙖𝙣𝙜𝙚𝙢𝙥𝙚𝙡𝙖😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @thembinkosimngxale7580
      @thembinkosimngxale7580 2 місяці тому +1

      Ngizwe Mchunu, is this you😂😂😂

  • @thabanimkhatshwa
    @thabanimkhatshwa 2 місяці тому +8

    Tribalistic Question.

  • @sibusisosihiya9779
    @sibusisosihiya9779 2 місяці тому +4

    Another thing if MK wants to take SA, they must get rid of of what most people suspect (tribalism).Beside that forget it.

    • @ThandoLuthando-j2s
      @ThandoLuthando-j2s 2 місяці тому +1

      @@sibusisosihiya9779 Why IFP is not running the country since Zulus are a majority in this country. Why AMAZULU FC is a small club if we are tribalist . I think Zulus are more progressive and personally I'm very happy we have Floyd now and I know he will add value to our party. I think he was the brains behind the EFF. MK is a political party for all SOuth AFricans not a Zulu Kingdom which every Zulu need to protect. Let's not devide our people we need our land back everywhere it was taken from. Let's unite black people.

  • @LangaXaba-bf1po
    @LangaXaba-bf1po 2 місяці тому +2

    Where are you guys coming with all this

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      EIC statistics, reading, keeping up with current affairs, history and more.

  • @aarongunnz9513
    @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому +3

    Remember the last days towards elections, Dr Ndlozi was criticizing Zuma. He told Zuma to go home and enjoy retirement incentives

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah that could be the reason he is not going to MK. But yet again you know does no permanent enemies in Politics.

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому

      @@NTVZ_production yes, no permanent enemy but they know umsholzi

  • @barbaramotsepe45
    @barbaramotsepe45 2 місяці тому +1

    Good analysis, I will follow you

  • @sydwellnhlomulo2969
    @sydwellnhlomulo2969 2 місяці тому +5

    Tsonga and Zulu are one before 1300 to 1800 but now remember mzilikazi and Tsonga Robvi ....
    Will try to rebuild what made mzilikazi and changamire the Tsonga panther together become kings in Robvi state

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      Facts ✅

    • @sibusisondlovu7706
      @sibusisondlovu7706 2 місяці тому

      History is repeating itself - Zulus ( Under Soshangane ) and Tsonga s have Deep Bond - Zulus intermarriage with Tsongas is so smooth. It has happened before and will happen again. Floyd will take over Limpompo.

  • @lmconsultancy8036
    @lmconsultancy8036 2 місяці тому +1

    These guys are talking the truth

  • @Johannesnkanalegodi
    @Johannesnkanalegodi 2 місяці тому +1

    You are articuliating very well.

  • @jossykunutu2175
    @jossykunutu2175 2 місяці тому +1

    😂😂😂joooo I was asking myself the same question this is going to be interesting

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      It's an interesting year for South African politics. 🇿🇦😅

    • @jossykunutu2175
      @jossykunutu2175 2 місяці тому

      @@NTVZ_production let's wait and see

  • @MzansiUpdates018
    @MzansiUpdates018 2 місяці тому +1

    My favorite Episode so far (excluding Ep 2). Fire Mr Selepe ❤

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      We will be teaching History and Covering current affairs. 👌

  • @matsobanemosehla29
    @matsobanemosehla29 2 місяці тому +1

    We are too far from healing as a society. I mean we are all South Africans and a constitutional democracy for that matter. We cant at this time and age in South Africa be listening to divisive talks on the basis of ethnicity and tribalism. Where i agree with Mr Selepe is where he is of the view that the love is not lost between floyd and Malema.

  • @ruthndala5778
    @ruthndala5778 2 місяці тому +4

    But Tsongas or Shangani are cousins of the Zulus

    • @MthobisiAyandaMntungwa
      @MthobisiAyandaMntungwa 2 місяці тому +4

      Not even Cousins but we are one thing.

    • @Eddymaf
      @Eddymaf Місяць тому +1

      Shangaan is a hybreed nation birthed from a zulu faction wich went to Mozambique and integrated with tsonga people to form a new nation the shangaan nation.I think the other guy is having a blast topic .EFF is a new political party.Politics is unpredictable.It's a power game.The Topic is before time.

  • @thomasngwenya7242
    @thomasngwenya7242 2 місяці тому +2

    It looks like this man is promoting tribalism,MKP is not a ZULU PARTY

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      But somehow we predicted the appointment right. Mr. Selepe used Election statistics as the basis of his argument. Which indicated that South African who voted for Party reside in Zulu populated areas

  • @christinanxumalo6811
    @christinanxumalo6811 2 місяці тому +1

    Im Zulu and would vote for any party and anybody based on assessment other than the tribe of the candidate and/or organization

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Ok Christina but you have to agree that those who vote like that are in the minority considering the election outcome.

    • @christinanxumalo6811
      @christinanxumalo6811 2 місяці тому +1

      @@NTVZ_production that's due to lack of political education. Whose responsibility is it then 🤷‍♀️

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      True@@christinanxumalo6811and those are the determining votes.

  • @AkhonaGaladla
    @AkhonaGaladla 2 місяці тому +1

    I agree with most of what you have raised but I completely disagree with the notion that Malema's announcement of Floyd departure was an act, EFF have nothing to gain from the so called act.

  • @mfunekomnyani7288
    @mfunekomnyani7288 2 місяці тому +1

    I've always been bothered by the fact that Mandela only wrote one book in his rich political career, his Autobiography and a number of speeches popularized on TV and other platforms. Most African Political Leaders of his calibre left us with timeless books which are still relevant in today's political space. I could quote the likes of Kwame Kruma, Jomo Kenyatta and others. He's political career dependent mainly on his charisma and popularity. I don't remember in class as a Political Science student, coming across any material one could reference from the old man in an attempt to write an assignment on any subject, be it Political Economy, Philosophy Development Studies and so on.

  • @emmanuelnyokana1750
    @emmanuelnyokana1750 Місяць тому +1

    I also do not think so. Like they never liked Mandela .During the time of Mandela Zulus supported IFP. Mandela was not welcome in Kwazulu-Natal. Only when Zuma was promoted to be in charge of the province the started to shift to ANC.

    • @sideshow22
      @sideshow22 Місяць тому

      In the early 2000s, during election campaign they blocked roads & chased Mbeki away in KZN.

  • @sylviankomo3525
    @sylviankomo3525 Місяць тому +1

    QALA KUBABA❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉"

  • @ezethongonomsamotv74
    @ezethongonomsamotv74 2 місяці тому +2

    NOT SHIVAMBO but Shibambu.. qala kokubiza isibongo sakhe kahle bese wekela lento yakho yobuhlanga nokuxhwasa ezinye izinhlanga...
    MK is a Pan Africanist political movement not a tribal movement thats poor analysis and we are misled by a guest here

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      It's the 2024 Election result not tribalism, but facts.

  • @0761Siban
    @0761Siban 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting conversation, keep it up guys❤

  • @brightmatimbe5249
    @brightmatimbe5249 2 місяці тому +1

    Someone help me so MK is going to be led or run by ex eff leaders, what does this say about mk

  • @euginenyuswa4608
    @euginenyuswa4608 2 місяці тому +1

    Ama Zulu aqala ukuthutha bantu esabathutha ngo Risho abanye bethuthwa ngezihlibhi ezazidonswa izinkomo. Ngisho sekuyiwa ema thuneni umzimba ulayishwa esihlibhini zidonse izinkomo kuya emathuneni. Nolimele thuthwa ngesihlibhi. Sasingaziwa i stresh sasesbhedlela kodwa sasisakha esasiboshwa nge ntana. Zonke lezozimto sezaguqulelwa eslungwini. I Nkosi u Cetshwayo wafakwa u Queen Victoria emgedeni wama bhubesi angamudla bajika babhala ibhayibheli eselino Danyeli abangadliwanga mabhubesi. Banitshela ukuthi oyihlo mkhulu nonyoko khulu babizeni ngama dimoni ababo nibabize ngama ansisters navuma. Babenihlukanisa nesisekelosenu nihlupheka nje. Kudala bedlalangani labantu bezizwe. Ikubusisa kuphi ndaba yezimpi nemibango egceele bhaybhilini? Ikubusisa kuphi ndaba yendoda eyayihalela umfazi wenye indoda yaze yaybulalisa ngempi? Babelungiselela lesiskhathi banithole kahle senithothobele ni soft baniqhoqgobale njengoba beniqhoqhobele nje. Wake wezwaphi wena kuthiwa kukhona izwe lineziphukuphuku ezithengisa ngezwe lazo kwabokufika ukuze baziphathe?

  • @ZamaniA.Dlamini
    @ZamaniA.Dlamini 2 місяці тому +7

    This is pure tribal politic this old man is talking.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      Is the results of the Election. The political riots not a clear sign of the reality of tribal politics?

  • @jonathanjt8424
    @jonathanjt8424 2 місяці тому +1

    Further more Floyd did not resign from EFF but he just did renew his membership. As said he will always be welcome.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Including the fact that he is the founding father. I think something is going on that we don't know of.

  • @sandilemntungwa1538
    @sandilemntungwa1538 2 місяці тому +1

    I wonder why people are always trying to play tribalism card about MKP while we have PA of Gayton, CCC ,UDM but they never said anything about those parties. We are watching.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Sandile those are facts you're saying. The speakers said the similar facts, that most of our people prefer to vote for a party that has similar representation to them.
      That's were the question that will amaZulu accept Floyd leading since most of them voted for Zulu lead MK.
      Imagine if the president of the Patriotic Alliance was a Zulu South African. Would they accept that?

    • @Eddymaf
      @Eddymaf Місяць тому

      The roots of the ANC were Zuku and was began by Zulu's and the largest ANC votes have always came from the Zulu people.Majority of the eff votes came from Zulu people.I think the hosts need to do more reseach

  • @euginenyuswa4608
    @euginenyuswa4608 2 місяці тому +2

    U Bhodloza waziqalela uhlelo lukasigiya ngengoma . Kwakhulunya kwaze kwaphoqeleleka ukuthi kushinthwe igamalohlelo. Sabaneholidi i Shaka day hhay nakhona ma Zulu azenza ngcono. Lashintshwa igama leholidi nathi akube lamasiko. Nashintsha neholidi le Nkosi u Dingane i December 16. Sasungula I ANC nasintshontshela yona. Saziqalela i
    Mk sagxekwa sabizwa ngawowonke amagama. Noma sekuvotwa hhaybo vimbani ama Zulu angawini thuthani wonke amaphoyisa phathe izibhamu ayogada u Zulu. Noma esewinile u Zulu hhayii akwenziwe iklazathi kuhlanganiswe anc da ifp nani nonke sondelsni kuvinjwe u Zulu. Ngapha nangaphakuvinjwa u Zulu akangaphumeleli. Aniqali izinto ums eseziqalela into yawo ama Zulu niyajika nithi a triberlist anobandlululo kodwa futhi niyazifuna izinto azisungulile. Ngisho negama elithi i Ngonyama selajikwa lafakwa epolitikini. Umbozo uthi nifunani ku Zulu. Zenzeni zingane zika Phunga no Mageba? Icala lazo yini? Zolo lokhu benithi Zuma must fall. Wanitshela ukuthi abanye benu bayokhala. Kwakhalwa ngempela. Manje sekuthiwa Zuma is a best noselandelwa kakhulu. Niyazibonana ukuthi yini kanye nibandlululu ma Zulu. Inkinga iqala ekwehlulekeni ibuye ize mqondweni iqale inzondo engenasidingo. Ngiyaxolisa ukubhala incwadi yonke. Phambili ngo Zulu nobuchule nobuchwepheshe bokusungula izinto ezisiza bantu

  • @MuziLanga-mt5fd
    @MuziLanga-mt5fd 2 місяці тому +1

    Are they going to accept it if people called MK of Shivambu.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Lol I see what you did there. Like the ANC of Ramaphosa👌

  • @CredoMaxwell
    @CredoMaxwell 2 місяці тому +1

    Maxhego ndinimamele kwaye ndiyanithanda❤

  • @lehlohonologumede8953
    @lehlohonologumede8953 2 місяці тому +6

    There is a concerted effort to try to isolate Zulu people and you people are embarrassed that MKP is supported by all tribes in SA. Only FS, NC and GP old townships is free from tribalists, otherwise all of you are tribalists and make as if only Zulus ( generalization) . You used to call Zuma Zulu boy, that was tribalist, it was the beginning of the attack against Zulu people masquerading as attack on Zuma. You can't discourage people to join MKP as if it's IFP. Any of you fought apartheid? No, you were all in apartheid homeland always asking people their tribal affiliation.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you Lehlohonolo I respect that the fact that you not only disagree with the speakers, but you gave your perspective.
      The speaker states that the analysis is based statistics of voters. Who MK got from predominantly from Zulu areas. We have to acknowledge the fact our people were separated along racial lines.
      And those racial lines still play a huge role in how people interact with the world today.

    • @musandasikhwivhilu
      @musandasikhwivhilu 2 місяці тому

      100%Zulu boy

    • @harveyfuqua6633
      @harveyfuqua6633 2 місяці тому

      His supporters wore t-shirts saying 100% Zulu in Polokwane.

  • @paulisidore6639
    @paulisidore6639 2 місяці тому +1

    Even people who are not AmaZulu vote MK, so South Africans let us not conduct our politics along the tribal lines.

  • @Eye-for-anEye
    @Eye-for-anEye 2 місяці тому +1

    Yes they will, only if he is supervised by zuma...

  • @JohannesKhukhiMaloma
    @JohannesKhukhiMaloma 2 місяці тому +4

    Yes, all we interested in is to see these country economic growth changes

  • @DuncanMkhwanazi-gu3xe
    @DuncanMkhwanazi-gu3xe 2 місяці тому +3

    Stop making this about as if it about ethnicity. This issue is about South Africa for underprivileged South Africans. So stop being racist and focus on a bigger picture that is economic liberation for black people

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      I agree with you 100%, but not addressing these small issues can have a devastating impact on our liberation. And if we can't speak to each other about them openly without being emotional.
      How are we going to handle the economic business.

  • @bonganishezi3449
    @bonganishezi3449 2 місяці тому +3

    You analysis is appalling.. Zulu's are not the only members of mk.
    The same Zulu's voted for many years for ANC including Cyril Ramaposa..
    Your teaching is miss leading....

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      The speaker used EIC statistics as an analysis framework to his point of view. The election results show that clearly the vast majority of places where MK got it's vote are predominantly occupied by Zulus.

  • @Sbusiso-bw8nx
    @Sbusiso-bw8nx 2 місяці тому

    That's a very unfair question. It's full of inferiority, while many of those who claim to know better preaches the liberation of a black man if it suits them.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      The question are based on the outcome of the Election. They are facts based not inferiority based.

  • @valukufanduli6531
    @valukufanduli6531 2 місяці тому +1

    Ey politics can kill you haaaa mayeh kanti where are we makunjena ?

  • @hlenganihobyani4864
    @hlenganihobyani4864 Місяць тому +1

    Baba don't forget that Ace Magashule has got his own party so the fact that Ace was to Zuma Therefore Mkp should have gotten more vote in free State in that virtue it's become fuss

  • @NtokozoNtombela-v1d
    @NtokozoNtombela-v1d 2 місяці тому +5

    I overstand the hiStory of BaNtu and "Zulu" is a baby of +-300yrs. MKP overstand unity beyond being "Zulu" . MKP wants MAAT way of life or governance .with that being overstand ,Fylod can lead MKP.

  • @mndenibuthelezi5360
    @mndenibuthelezi5360 2 місяці тому +1

    yes we can if is a leader suitable to lead MK

  • @mfunekomnyani7288
    @mfunekomnyani7288 2 місяці тому +1

    Maybe Floyd used his time in KZN secrectly campaigning for MK. Hence the EFF performance in the province. Not that EFF would've autodone well there.

  • @lesibajohanneslanga8049
    @lesibajohanneslanga8049 Місяць тому +1

    Producer switched off the sound

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  Місяць тому

      It was UA-cam that cut the audio when it was cutting off the intro song but I reported it.
      They made it will be fixed. 👌

  • @DonnyDonald-eo7tr
    @DonnyDonald-eo7tr 2 місяці тому +10

    Well let me tell you I am pro Zuma support but I can assure you Floyd will be soon become our President in MK,dreamers and nay sayers keep on entertaining us we like it

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      Let's wait and see. Your Donald right MK has brought an interest to Politics to a lot of people who were not entertained by them.
      Hopefully I'll come back to this comment and say you were right... Or wrong 😁

  • @lungangamahle6036
    @lungangamahle6036 2 місяці тому +6

    Tribalist podcast and also JZ is too smart for yall to analyse. Many have failed

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      How so? When we are just analyzing Votes. The facts are there on the EIC website, we just adding having a conversation about them.

  • @michaelnyathi8086
    @michaelnyathi8086 2 місяці тому +4

    This guy doesn't know what he is saying,he is clueless

  • @sibongisenikhumalo8198
    @sibongisenikhumalo8198 Місяць тому +1

    But he is not looking to be king, merely a leader of a political party.
    My question to you guys if when using your narrative and logic and your reasoning, why is IFP not the 2nd largest political party in SA cause we all know it is a Zulu party that advocated for KZN independency and alot of people died and got killed for that idea

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  Місяць тому

      Personally I think violence associated with the IFP post 1994 make it hard for the middle class Zulu speaking South Africans to identify with them.
      Zuma is the first Zulu speaking South African president. He once represent all South Africans and a vast of them benefitted from that.
      So it makes sense for Zulus to take pride in him as a leader.

  • @nozibusisozikalala5070
    @nozibusisozikalala5070 2 місяці тому +1

    Nhlamulo? Is he not Shangane?

  • @joelmlaba512
    @joelmlaba512 2 місяці тому +3

    MK is for everyone in South Africa.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      We didn't say it wasn't
      We just said that the vast majority of people who voted for it. Are Zulu speaking South Africas Joel

  • @ThomasMnguni-fe6rc
    @ThomasMnguni-fe6rc Місяць тому +1

    These people who always accuse other tribes of tribalism, have a deeply embedded psychological problem. They yearn for the Bantustan days. The GNU scam is the same psychosis. A throw back to Apartheid days.

  • @MuziLanga-mt5fd
    @MuziLanga-mt5fd 2 місяці тому +1

    Tribes will always be there only ignorant people who will not accept it .

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому +1

      Facts Muzilanga, people get emotional when the truth is presented.

  • @Supervisor2Xone
    @Supervisor2Xone Місяць тому +1

    Its true mk voters are those disgruntled zulu or nguni anc supporters ,theyre ethnic indeed they disgruntled to anc because the man leading is a venda man. Anc has always presented controversies in its leadership styles but they never performed badly in kzn but this time its different story because anc is led by a venda

  • @bonneyg-s3816
    @bonneyg-s3816 2 місяці тому +1

    Sound Sound PLEASE

  • @ohlangeni
    @ohlangeni 2 місяці тому +1

    Its true that Nguni people do prefer being led by a Nguni leader (as Tsonga, Tswana, Pedi people also do).
    However, I believe the "Zulu tribalism" card is overblown.
    People are just gatvol of ANC of Ramaphosa.
    Compare the performance of the ANC led by Ramaphosa in 2019 where most ANC votes come from KZN.
    Yet, after poor performance (and selling out) of Ramaphosa, Black people (including people of KZN) flipped to new parties. Again, not to the IFP but to MK and EFF

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      But I think Zuma being in the ANC is the reason why a vast majority of people in KZN voted for them.

    • @ohlangeni
      @ohlangeni 2 місяці тому +1

      @@NTVZ_production Thabo Mbeki got more votes in KZN in the 2004 Elections than Zuma ever did as ANC and MK presidents.

  • @tumelolucky127
    @tumelolucky127 2 місяці тому +3

    Mara topic e so😢 kgane why, what's your agenda botse botse? Aowa banna

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому

      Agenda ke gore, a na Shivambu a ka etella MK kwa pele??

  • @Ginger4789
    @Ginger4789 2 місяці тому +1

    They can’t even lead themselves 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Azikhale_
    @Azikhale_ 2 місяці тому +3

    You're the real tribalists, you hate Zulus even when they've done nothing you accuse then of what is in YOUR mind mxm. It's disgusting but fine you can't smeer the movement. Gwaza Mkhonto for all South Africans ✊🏿

  • @Blocc187
    @Blocc187 2 місяці тому +2

    Stop trying to sow division Sir. No Zulu came out to say they dont want Floyd .

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      We didn't say all of them
      We said the majority of people who voted for MK prefer being lead by a Zulu speaking South African.
      It's just preference which a democratic country allows. A vast majority of colours who voted for Gayton M.
      It's how it is...we can't pretend it's not reality

  • @victorndlela8208
    @victorndlela8208 Місяць тому +1

    You must remember that really ANC was form at KZN bt people of KZN voted Mandela Mbeki and Ramaphosa look this MK is belong to the people of SA not for Zulus only MK is going to be a big party we ll support Shivambu.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  Місяць тому

      The 1994 South Africans shared a common struggle. Which was Apartheid that made it easy them to unite different tribes under one believe. Forward to the 2024 where modern South African feel less represented by the ANC.
      So where do they turn to?
      The closest person who they can identify with who happens to be from the tribe they are from.
      We don't question your support for Shivambu, but are you the sole presentation of all or at least the majority of people who voted MK to power?
      forward to the 2024

  • @PhilaniButhelezi-mm6fj
    @PhilaniButhelezi-mm6fj 2 місяці тому +1

    This is disgusting, at this day and age there are old men who are causing mistrust and hatred among people of this country. Why not wait and see, then comment about something happening. Some of us never see anything wrong with other Black South Africans that can make Zulus and Tsongas fail ti work together.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  Місяць тому

      Our aim was not that.
      Our aim is to analyze the election results which show people voted based on tribes on the 2024 Election.
      We are South Africans and we believe in the liberation of all South Africa's. Zulus and Tsongas.

  • @Thuthuka.kubheka
    @Thuthuka.kubheka 2 місяці тому +2

    ANC was supported by all racial groups nobody said this nonsense of tribalism Pres ZUMA IS UNITING people again the way ANC united people back in the days, since now people have been scattered by the ANC, i do not know why this nonsense of tribalism is an issue,

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      We just looking at the voting patterns of the 2024 Election.

    • @richardsiwela3185
      @richardsiwela3185 2 місяці тому

      There's no denying this ethnic chauvnism of the so called MK a stolen legacy....

  • @duncanntuli-qf7uo
    @duncanntuli-qf7uo 2 місяці тому +2

    We are not tribalist and Floyd will lead us to the promised Land.

  • @ayandagwala9529
    @ayandagwala9529 Місяць тому

    You guys are diving MKP

  • @LangaXaba-bf1po
    @LangaXaba-bf1po 2 місяці тому +1

    MK is a political party it can be led all tribes

  • @basedontruestoree
    @basedontruestoree 2 місяці тому +1

    why did you censor the part about the western cape. min 13:00 -14:25

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      UA-cam removed the intro song. I'll that part was affected that. But I reported it. Thanks for alerting me.

    • @basedontruestoree
      @basedontruestoree 2 місяці тому

      @@NTVZ_production how convenient for youtube. owners of YT have an interest in the Western cape, why are they censoring??

  • @nomvulalangasiki3927
    @nomvulalangasiki3927 2 місяці тому +1

    Let's c

  • @manayesh
    @manayesh 2 місяці тому +3

    Stupid question. How did the anc managed to powerful in kzn since the days of Mandela and Mbeki? Both xhosas.
    Zulus and Xhosas are more at loggerheads with each other than with any other ethnic group. You guys don't seem to be well versed with ethnic dynamics amongst SAns.

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому

      Zuma convinced them

    • @nomagcisacawe3297
      @nomagcisacawe3297 2 місяці тому

      Don't include the Xhosas in your nonsense. We are not at loggerheads with you. What makes you think so? Justifies why the Xhosa think of you as brainless. Asixakekanga ngani. Don't flatter yourselves.

    • @nomagcisacawe3297
      @nomagcisacawe3297 2 місяці тому

      Don't insult us. We are not at loggerheads with anyone. Always thinking about conflict.

  • @sibusisosihiya9779
    @sibusisosihiya9779 2 місяці тому +2

    SA will never be what it dream of, SA is suffering from tribalism politic, certain tribe thinks is better than other.We as African still have to clean our arrogance first.

    • @NTVZ_production
      @NTVZ_production  2 місяці тому

      Facts Sbu but we have to confront the truth first of our ignorance.

    • @ngoakosemenya5890
      @ngoakosemenya5890 2 місяці тому

      No bro is not only SA 😂is the whole world 🤞

    • @sibusisosihiya9779
      @sibusisosihiya9779 2 місяці тому

      @@ngoakosemenya5890 The only place I know is South Africa,since we are talking about MK and Floyd