Serving two life sentences consecutively either means, or used to mean, that as soon as the convict is eligible for parole for the first sentence, the second sentence starts, and it will be another seven years or so until the convict is actually eligible for parole.
I know right - our Sears closed only about 3 years ago - maybe its the Roebuck part. I did buy one of the big craftsman snowblowers when they were going out at like 60% off.
My great grandparents ordered a house from the Sears Robuck catalog in 1899 ,the year my grandmother was born. It was delivered by union pacific railroad and assembled near Logan Utah
@@timh8324 Yeah I agree it may have been the "Roebuck" part. Elder Millennial here, watched this movie back when TNT showed it 24/7, and even I got confused when Red said that. If the line had been "I'm a regular Sears catalog," I think the Octobers would've gotten it.
And then the line is immediately undermined by showing us that his hope was fulfilled. It was a lot more powerful in the book when you didn’t know for sure. It ended with the HOPE of a happy ending.
I think the reason they finally granted him his parole the third time was because the first two times they thought his speech sounded rehearsed or memorized. it was probably what they heard from every prisoner who was up for parole- "Yes, I'm a changed man. I've learned my lesson. I'm no longer a threat to society". But the last time, he sounded sincere, like he was really taking responsibility for his actions, especially when he said "I'd like to have a talk with that young man and tell him how things are". They knew he wasn't just saying what he thought they wanted him to say so he could get out. He was speaking from his heart.
Yup the first 2 times he was basically a little kid apologizing for doing something. They don't really understand what they did but they do know they are in trouble and act nice so they can get off without being punished.
The $10 for the hammer in 1947 is about $140 today. The $35,000 inheritance in 1949 is about $450,000 today. The $370,000 in 1966 is about $3.5 million today. Sears & Roebuck was a catalog department store. They sold almost anything. Like Amazon without the internet.
I too converted the $10 and $370,000..... AND, I also relate today's Amazon being the Sears catalog of 100 years ago. HAHA! Love it. Sears literally did sell EVERYTHING. They actually sold entire HOUSES in their catalogs. Every single item you need to build a house arrived, typically by railroad, and you would put it all together. "Sears Kit Homes"!! Very interesting.
I'm the Stephen King book, "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption," the character Red (Redding) is Irish. When director, Frank Darabont cast Morgan Freeman, they used the quote as an inside joke because of the casting change. Readers of the book immediately understood the meaning of the quote when they watched this scene in the film.
It's also a more basic surface joke to those unfamiliar with the short story. "Maybe it's because I'm Irish" - the joke being that red hair is an Irish trait, so works as a joke as he's clearly unlikely to have Irish heritage.
He could have Irish roots. I have plenty given that former irish prisoners were slave owners who mixed with my ancestors. Some of my family even has auburn hair and face freckles.
'The count of Monte Cristo' that is referenced by Heywood in the library scene is also an excellent movie to see if yall havent seen it! Guy Pearce, Jim Caviziel and a young Henry Cavill star.
In the parole office at the end, red told them he regretted every day and wanted to talk sense into that kid who was gone, but the only one left was this old man. That’s what convinced that. The murderer was gone.
I was convicted for growing Marijuana in the Orange Hills in California in1988. I was sentenced to 16 months in prison, first offense. I found jail to be much worse than prison, but my experiences are with a one yard, non-violent offenders. In jail, they haven't classified anyone yet, so you could be next to an accused murderer or other violent type.
Sears and Roebuck was a chain of huge department stores originally started as a mail order catalog in 1892 that would basically sell anything and everything. And that white stuff was de-lousing powder. I think Red got paroled because he finally told the parole board what he really thought, instead of what he thought the parole board wanted to hear.
How do you say this but omit the most obvious fact, which is that Sears and Roebuck is simply the old name for Sears, which is still around and that they probably know. As recently as the 90s when they were kids, Sears had huge stores everywhere.
@@everyonelovesmajima Yeah but @WarKrieg 11's comment is still valid. The reactors said they were born in 1992. Even though the Sears company had been in decline for awhile, the big wave of store closings didn't start until the 2010s (bankruptcy was in 2018). Also, Sears TV commercials were all over the place through the reactors' childhood and teen years. I guess maybe it's a "Mandela Effect" thing that a lot of people think Sears shrunk up and went away earlier than it truly did.
I LOVE this movie and saw it BOTH TIMES you posted it! 1994 was a GREAT YEAR in films with Shawshank, Pulp Fiction, The Client AND Forrest Gump. All some of my favorites. I was born in 77 so the 90's was my most impressionable movie years.
The first two times Red was denied parole it was because he wasn’t sincere in his response. He was just going through the motions, ticking the boxes, telling them what he thought they wanted to hear…and they knew that. He was approved because he finally was brutally honest and genuinely expressed remorse.
Hey Octobers, don't be wary of watching older films. A good story is a good story, no matter how old or when it was written....great reaction! Thanks very much! 😊
Agree! Some of the absolute best movies are older! These days movies are (usually) just high tech action constantly. A truly good movie (or show) doesn’t need all that.
You ae the first reactors to understand that the "Redemption" was Red's, not Andy's. The perfect script, the perfect actors, the perfect director=The Perfect Movie!!
One of the points of the story I think is that people in prison are still people. They're not animals. They're being punished for their crimes by being there. Thinking the things they are going through somehow count less because they committed a crime is wild. Stephen King is a great storyteller. Good reaction.
I was a Correctional Officer for 7 years. I was also a field trainer. This was the very first thing I told every new officer. We're here to keep everyone safe, not punish them. They're already being punished.
the additional life sentences do have a purpose. It extends the period of time they gotta serve before they are eligible for first parole hearing. If 1 life sentence requires 20 years served before parole, 2 life sentences means he has to wait 40 years for his first hearing. They rarely give out more than 2 because they will be so old it wont matter.
Exactly my point... but I guess even critics who understand nothing about the law can have their say-though it carries virtually no merit since these two don't bother to educate themselves on the subject at hand.
Some corrections and clarifications: A life sentence is 25 years. And they give life sentences either consecutive or concurrent. And they are given per count of murder. So 2 murders could give 2 life sentences that serve at the same time(concurrent) meaning only 25 years is required before parole or back to back(consecutive) meaning 50 years to serve. And they give multiple sentences to "hedge their bets", if you beat a conviction on one count, you still have to serve life on the other. So your last sentence is completely false.
None of these comments have anything to do with Andy's convictions, because he was given double life sentences without possibility of parole. The reason why this is done, is because convictions can be overturned on appeal. So, even if the convict beats on sentence on appeal, he's still doing life. The chances of beating both on appeal are astronomical.
Omg guys, I love your reaction, the most emotional and honest one i've ever seen. I relived all the rollercoaster of feelings troughout the movie thanks to you both, keep up the good work.
Great reaction like always, this is a masterpiece of cinema, A masterclass in pretty much every category. An incredible script, wonderful direction, gorgeous score and phenomenal performances by Freeman and Robbins. Some fun-facts about this movie, Stephen King sold the rights for $1,000. The baseball throwing scene took 9 hours The scene where Andy and Red are standing and talking outside whilst Red is throwing a baseball back and forth took a staggering nine hours to film. Morgan Freeman threw the ball endlessly the whole time. The following day, when he arrived at work, his arm was in a sling. Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford were considered for Red, and Brad Pitt audition for the role of Tommy but he pulled out of the role because of another movie, later Brad Pitr said he regretted that decision. Red’s mugshot is Morgan Freeman’s son , When you see Morgan Freeman’s papers at one of his parole hearings, there are mugshots of a younger Red attached. These are actually photos of Alfonso Freeman - Morgan’s son. He also had a small part in the movie. He was one of the inmates shouting ‘Fresh fish!’ Stephen King’s novella was titled, ‘Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption.’ This was shortened for the film because they didn’t want people to think it was a biopic about Rita Hayworth. This was proven to be true when several actresses applied for the ‘lead role of Rita Hayworth’. Keep up the amazing work.
The Sears and roebuck stores had a magazine that you could order anything from. Even a House. They would deliver it and you would build it 😅. When I was a child alot of people used the pages for toilet paper. Back when we had out houses.
A lot of channels try to keep their reactions to about half hour, which makes for pretty heavy handed editing. Glad you didn't choose to go that route. Good job..👍
It ran the same year as Pulp Fiction and Forest Gump. Gump got the Oscar. In fact, I believe Shawshank didn't even perform well in theaters, some attribute it to the movie title but had a big resurgence in rentals and tv.
Shawshank came out during a very heavy period of "tough on crime" in the states. Criminals weren't intended to be seen as people, just violent criminals that needed to be locked away. The masses had no desire to feel sympathetic towards criminals, so they stayed away
Glad you guys watch that movie, it's not just a classic but one of the best movies in history. It doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, if a movie is from the 80s, 90s or 2000s, if it's a great movie is all it matters and there are some great movies from the 90s n 2000s, probably a lot of great ones even older but not too familiar with those myself. Look forward to more reactions like this
If you guys are willing to gamble on a really good, but very old movie, "12 Angry Men" was made in 1957 and is probably in my top 20 best movies of all time. There was a remake in the early 90s which was... okay, I guess, but not as good as the '57 film starring Henry Fonda. It is old as hell, black and white, but I don't think I've ever met someone who gave it a shot and didn't dig the hell out of it.
I hear you, but I think you have the wrong preception of old cinema. The quality of storytelling is just superior. You really need to watch Casablanca, Breakfast at Tiffany's, To Kill a Mockingbird, Chinatown, etc. They will change your perspective. The 1970s and 1990s might be the two best decades for film, but the 40s-60s has some bangers. There's not a film in the last decade that holds a candle to any of these.
The reason Andy got two life sentences, is because they were treated as separate murders. It's also a way to guarantee that Andy stays in jail, in the event that he is later found innocent of one of the murders. Such as, if they later found out that Andy was innocent of shooting his wife, because it was determined that her lover was the one who shot her, and that Andy shot her lover for killing his wife. Andy would then have to still serve a life sentence for her lover's murder.
Not exactly. A "life sentence" is a minimum of 25 years. After that, a convict is eligible for parole. So two life sentences means a minimum of 50 years.
@@havok6280wrong... That's only in cases where it's life with the possibility of parole. Andy obviously was sentenced to life without the possibility. So, the reason for double life sentences, is to make sure he stays in prison in case he beats and overturns one of the convictions on appeal.
Glad you understand the meaning of this film. Redemption, Love, Friendship, HOPE. P.S. This film is rated as a Masterpiece and is the best film ever made. So when you both feel down watch this film again and you will have a beautiful life. I am a 71 old pensioner. 2024 and still watch this. Dave in Guernsey, Channel Islands.
The reason Red's parole was approved at the end was because his response was genuine, it meant something, it wasnt just a rehersed paragraph hoping to gain favor
Shawshank is a top tier movie. Often times people who commit these terrible crimes aren't the same people when they get out. Some people don't learn but once you've been in so long, the person getting out isn't even the same person who went in. How much have you changed in 20+ years.
5:20 comment, It's Macy's type store but owned by 2 guys. They had a magazine promoting their items and you could order from the catalogue and shipped to them.-Ernie Moore Jr.
there are many theories why red got parole at the end. i like the idea that he got it because he said he didn't care about it, basically admitting that he deserved to be in prison, which can be taken as proof of genuine remorse.
Great reaction! I gave other channels some flak for making me feel old when they said they did not know what Sears and Roebuck was. I admit when Red said all anyone needs outside is the yellow pages, I was a little scared. If either of you had said what are the yellow pages? I would have moved into an old folks home!
The movie was filmed at the (closed) Ohio Reformatory in Mansfield which is open to tours highlighting the locations used, and it is even said to be haunted. The tree and rock wall is not far from where I live. Several years ago a storm took out the tree, but it is neat to have a connection to one of the better movies of our time. “The Green Mile” is now a must watch for you two!!!
Sears & Roebuck started off as a catalog company that you could order from. They later became a department store... Sears & Roebuck which eventually just became Sears. 😅
Sears and Roebuck (or just Sears) is a department store. A department store is a large retailer that offers a wide variety of consumer products divided into different sections or departments.
I spent 3 years in USP Atlanta, a maximum security federal penitentiary. It's not exactly like Shawshank but similar in a lot of ways. In some ways it's better in other ways it's worse. It wasn't fun but it was an interesting experience... and I survived.
The 90s are a treasure trove of great movies: Philadelphia, Forrest Gump, The Green Mile, Office Space, Good Will Hunting, Jerry Maguire, and so much more. The 80s too!
When the policemen are saying "Goodluck Brooksie" it always makes me cry. His story is so sad and tragic... Then the movie brings your spirits back up👍🏼
Good morning. The reformatory used in the movie said it’s the old Ohio State reformatory in Mansfield Ohio. The street sings the market and the halfway house. We’re all here in Mansfield. I was fortunately enough to be an extra con in the yard. The reformatory and cell Block one is now a museum. You can tour it, they have mystery weekends, they offer overnight stays if you want to try it. They say it haunted. The premiere of the movie was actually held at the Renaissance theater in Mansfield, which is a 1929 restored movie house. From the Premier here that went to New York and then LA. An interesting sidenote is the fact that crows in the winter time come in from a seven county area and winter here. So we’re well acquainted with crows and Mansfield. I am now 75 with Parkinson’s and don’t get around much so enjoy listening to reaction videos on UA-cam. I’m sorry if the voice to text doesn’t always put the right word in. Very much enjoyed your review.
If I can recommend another movie that you will find very interesting and well worth it Spielberg’s Empire of the Sun. Outstanding photography great story line.
Sears and Roebuck was a full color in later days mail order catalog. At its peak it paid for the world's tallest building at the time, the Sears Tower in Chicago. Discover credit card was spun off from Sears.
The scene where the guy slipped money in an envelope in with the pie, was the guy begging the warden to not take the job for the Highway bc he needed it to keep his businesses going. The warden was putting people outta business bc the labor cost was next to nothing, so the guy bribed him not to take the job
6:17 Sears and Roebuck, which later became Sears, the once ubiquitous national giant department store chain found at every mall, and now defunct, started as a mail order catalog where you could buy just about anything: clothes, cookware, hardware, machine guns, and even complete kits to build houses. And these fresh convicts largely aren’t supposed to be in their 40s. Times was hard back then, people usually looked older than their actual age. They started smoking cigarettes when they were 10, they usually didn’t have adequate nutrition, if you grew up poor you often had to work laborious jobs outside or in a coal mine shortly after you could walk, and sunscreen really wasn’t a thing. You could have been 20 and looked 45 to a person of today.
Awesome movie guys👍after this one you have to react to The Green Mile, same director and the script is also based on a story from Stephen King just remember to keep the tissues close to you!!! Also today we celebrate Easter in my country so Happy Easter ❤
@@TheOctobersReact We don't search for eggs we paint them and since before Easter there was a 40 day's period when meat was forbidden we tend to eat and drink 😊
Shawshank is my all-time favorite movie. It's been previously posted but it bears repeating. This movie is one of three director Frank Darabont adapted from Stephen King. You MUST check out The Green Mile next. Another prison movie but a very different one. Have tissues ready when you watch it. The other movie is The Mist - that's a straight out horror movie - also worth watching. PS- The Red reference is a shout-out due to the book where Red was described as Irish.
Multiple life sentences make perfect sense, if you kill multiple people you deserved to sentenced for each crime no matter if you are alive to serve it, if one of the victims was your relative wouldn't you want them to recieve a sentence for it regardless of what ever else they got? Each victim deserves individual justice, it's that simple, and for example what if one of the cases got turned over later and he gets out, with multiple sentences he's going nowhere.
To answer the question why he got to life sentences or you will even sometimes hear people get 150 years in prison that’s because the judge wants to ensure that that person never gets out of prison so if you just lump it to one live sentence, you may have an issue later down the road with that charge somehow getting dropped because of a loophole and now that person is walking the streets if you give them to life sentences, one could be dropped while the other one still stands, and it just ensures that that dangerous person never gets out of prison. Or if you give them 100 years in prison, that’s probably because they had multiple different charges that on that person and they’re making them serve them consecutively so if the same thing happens like a loophole and a charge gets dropped again that person still not walking the streets
Oh, jeez, Sears & Roebuck is *that* far back!? Huge national department store in the U.S., and one of the original mail-order places (decades ago!). Their massive catalogues were famous! Still some around, I think, although the one nearest me closed a couple of years ago.
"What's a Sears and Roebuck?" 😅😅So young. Hey Octobers. This is the best movie ever made. Good to see you guys reacting to it. Remember me? Every Time I see you I say "More Dave Chappelle."
4:15 They give double life sentences so there is no chance for parole later on. Sometimes things can happen later on that may reduce someone's sentence, like good behavior, so they will give them extra time on top of the life sentence to make sure even if some time is taken off his sentence later on he will still be in prison for life. Basically they are padding the years he must serve so there is no chance he can get out later on.
Long before Walmart took over, Sears (popular department store and hardware store) was one of the most popular stores in the US. Sears and Roebuck company was their original name. Holiday catalogs would come in the mail (about 2-3 inches thick, 200-300 pages). My mom got me an electric guitar in 1980 from Sears and Roebuck. Just 6 years ago, the wife and I bought a refridgerator at the local Sears store in town (they tanked just a couple years ago. )
The other good Morgan Freeman movie is "Glory". It was aabout the first African-Americans recruited to fight in the US Civil War in the north. It's a pretty dramatic depicting how African Americans were treated at the time.. There are some gruesome battle scenes so be prepared if you think of watching. There are also a lot of stars you might recognize.
Well edited !...you managed to keep all pertinent parts so we didn't miss anything..brovo 👏👏👏... This movie was so well written and the actors did an amazing job..the cast was excellent as well... For a faster storyline check out 💥... Wanted...James McAvoy..Morgan Freeman.. Angelina Jolie.. Chris Pratt..Common...2008... I see other commenters have suggested Green Mile.. it's another great movie..Tom Hanks.. written by Stephen King... Thanks for this reaction to an excellent movie... 🌿🌿🌿
I think its one of the top movies of all time. Just a brilliant story showing the human condition. Superb acting. Excellent pacing. This is the art of timeless film.
The 90s was a great decade for movies, and do not apologize for saying you are open to watch movies of any era, you should not have to explain yourself, my favorite movie of all time was Forrest Gump, followed closely by THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION at #2, many more movies from the 90s you guys would enjoy, here is another gem you guys would love from the 90s "Last of the Dogmen", I dont even think I have seen any reactions for that one, trust me, you guys will love that movie, great reaction, take care guys!
This movie is filmed at the Ohio State Reformatory in Mansfield, Ohio. I got to take a private tour of the prison, a family friend was one of the people working on renovating it at the time, and got us a cool tour on the weekend once. Really cool to see everything from the movie. Seeing the cell blocks and the wardens office was cool af. And the tunnel through the wall is just a PVC pipe thats 6ft long. Lil Wayne also recorded his Go DJ music video there, and parts of Air Force One are filmed there too. They have ghost tours/haunts and in the summer they have a Tattoo and Metal Festival on the front lawn called Inkarceration Fest. Highly worth the visit if you're ever in that area.
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@2:39 It may not be a good thing to say, but it is the truth. He very well couldn’t perjure himself.
Serving two life sentences consecutively either means, or used to mean, that as soon as the convict is eligible for parole for the first sentence, the second sentence starts, and it will be another seven years or so until the convict is actually eligible for parole.
@@cog4life Oh yeah it definitely is!!!
If you're going to watch 1 B&W movie and only 1 B&W movie it has to be 12 Angry Men.
You'll like it as much as this. 10 ten material for sure!
Stab to the heart “What’s a Sears and Roebuck?” Damn I’m old.
I know right - our Sears closed only about 3 years ago - maybe its the Roebuck part. I did buy one of the big craftsman snowblowers when they were going out at like 60% off.
That's what it was called before they took the Roebuck off Sears and Roebuck damn I'm old LOL
My great grandparents ordered a house from the Sears Robuck catalog in 1899 ,the year my grandmother was born.
It was delivered by union pacific railroad and assembled near Logan Utah
I'm an Australian born in the 80s and even I felt that.
@@timh8324 Yeah I agree it may have been the "Roebuck" part. Elder Millennial here, watched this movie back when TNT showed it 24/7, and even I got confused when Red said that. If the line had been "I'm a regular Sears catalog," I think the Octobers would've gotten it.
"I hope".
The best final line of any movie ever.
Just plain best movie ever.
And then the line is immediately undermined by showing us that his hope was fulfilled. It was a lot more powerful in the book when you didn’t know for sure. It ended with the HOPE of a happy ending.
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False, it’s still great in the movie
@@daerdevvyl4314 you can do that when you direct your movie.
Nope, best line, "the last thing that went through his head, other than the bullet."
Over $370,000 USD in 1966 would have the same spending close to $4,000,000 in 2024.
And him living in Mexico, maybe 6 million?
"You shouldn't do this to yourself Andy...It's just a shitty pipe dream"....One shitty pipe later...
"Crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side"
You beat me to it!!
I think the reason they finally granted him his parole the third time was because the first two times they thought his speech sounded rehearsed or memorized. it was probably what they heard from every prisoner who was up for parole- "Yes, I'm a changed man. I've learned my lesson. I'm no longer a threat to society". But the last time, he sounded sincere, like he was really taking responsibility for his actions, especially when he said "I'd like to have a talk with that young man and tell him how things are". They knew he wasn't just saying what he thought they wanted him to say so he could get out. He was speaking from his heart.
My thoughts exactly
Spot on interpretation.
@@johnrogers4439 Thanks
Yup the first 2 times he was basically a little kid apologizing for doing something. They don't really understand what they did but they do know they are in trouble and act nice so they can get off without being punished.
Times had changed too, and people were less racist
Red at the end; "I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope...." His Red-emption. So brilliant! Stephen King & Frank Darabont genius!
Love the bus ride scene even though there is not much to it.
The $10 for the hammer in 1947 is about $140 today. The $35,000 inheritance in 1949 is about $450,000 today. The $370,000 in 1966 is about $3.5 million today.
Sears & Roebuck was a catalog department store. They sold almost anything. Like Amazon without the internet.
I too converted the $10 and $370,000..... AND, I also relate today's Amazon being the Sears catalog of 100 years ago. HAHA! Love it. Sears literally did sell EVERYTHING. They actually sold entire HOUSES in their catalogs. Every single item you need to build a house arrived, typically by railroad, and you would put it all together. "Sears Kit Homes"!! Very interesting.
I'm the Stephen King book, "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption," the character Red (Redding) is Irish. When director, Frank Darabont cast Morgan Freeman, they used the quote as an inside joke because of the casting change. Readers of the book immediately understood the meaning of the quote when they watched this scene in the film.
It's also a more basic surface joke to those unfamiliar with the short story. "Maybe it's because I'm Irish" - the joke being that red hair is an Irish trait, so works as a joke as he's clearly unlikely to have Irish heritage.
He could have Irish roots. I have plenty given that former irish prisoners were slave owners who mixed with my ancestors. Some of my family even has auburn hair and face freckles.
@@lavinder11 There were Irish slaves too.
'The count of Monte Cristo' that is referenced by Heywood in the library scene is also an excellent movie to see if yall havent seen it! Guy Pearce, Jim Caviziel and a young Henry Cavill star.
I agree. A definite must watch for the channel. Loved that it. Great book and movie.
Films come & go but I think "Shawshank" will forever be in the top 20 greatest films of all time for every generation. A classic 🥰
20 ? been top 1 for 30 years on imdb
That and The Green Mile, they’re companion pieces for me.😊
It's so good I felt personally affronted when Dune 2 knocked it off top spot on IMDb.
@@Washinyot Do note what I said. It's my number 1 & many others but I feel it will forever be in the top 20 for the rest of time
And yet this movie didn't win many awards because it came out the same year as Forrest Gump.
In the parole office at the end, red told them he regretted every day and wanted to talk sense into that kid who was gone, but the only one left was this old man. That’s what convinced that. The murderer was gone.
I was convicted for growing Marijuana in the Orange Hills in California in1988. I was sentenced to 16 months in prison, first offense. I found jail to be much worse than prison, but my experiences are with a one yard, non-violent offenders. In jail, they haven't classified anyone yet, so you could be next to an accused murderer or other violent type.
Had a buddy who did both - he, too, said he preferred prison, for similar reasons. Said he would rather do a year in prison than 30 days in jail.
If you are on trial and the judge declares "it chills my blood just to look at you", you probably won't get a favorable outcome.
Or if they say “I can tell you’re not a bad person,” you’re a bad person.
Yeah, the judge ain't gonna say that and go "But I think you should go free and I'm sorry for inconveniencing you"
If the judge says that out loud, especially in front of the jury, it should be considered a mistrial due to a biased judge.
Sears and Roebuck was a chain of huge department stores originally started as a mail order catalog in 1892 that would basically sell anything and everything. And that white stuff was de-lousing powder. I think Red got paroled because he finally told the parole board what he really thought, instead of what he thought the parole board wanted to hear.
How do you say this but omit the most obvious fact, which is that Sears and Roebuck is simply the old name for Sears, which is still around and that they probably know. As recently as the 90s when they were kids, Sears had huge stores everywhere.
There are literally 10 left in the entire United States.
God I feel old lol
One could also purchase an entire house through them lol
We used to get the Sears and Roebuck catalog growing up. It was thicker than the Yellow pages back in the day.
@@everyonelovesmajima Yeah but @WarKrieg 11's comment is still valid. The reactors said they were born in 1992. Even though the Sears company had been in decline for awhile, the big wave of store closings didn't start until the 2010s (bankruptcy was in 2018). Also, Sears TV commercials were all over the place through the reactors' childhood and teen years. I guess maybe it's a "Mandela Effect" thing that a lot of people think Sears shrunk up and went away earlier than it truly did.
When she ask what is a Sears and Roebuck. I’m like dang for real?! I’m old lol
Just what I was thinking 😂😂😂
I think it's because of the "Roebuck" part. It confused me too when I watched this as a teen in the '90s.
Mr. Hadley had 35,000 reasons to beat Boggs...
11,900 reasons... that's what Andy saved him in taxes (if inheritance would have been considered taxable income in 1949)
I LOVE this movie and saw it BOTH TIMES you posted it! 1994 was a GREAT YEAR in films with Shawshank, Pulp Fiction, The Client AND Forrest Gump. All some of my favorites. I was born in 77 so the 90's was my most impressionable movie years.
The first two times Red was denied parole it was because he wasn’t sincere in his response. He was just going through the motions, ticking the boxes, telling them what he thought they wanted to hear…and they knew that. He was approved because he finally was brutally honest and genuinely expressed remorse.
Hey Octobers, don't be wary of watching older films. A good story is a good story, no matter how old or when it was written....great reaction! Thanks very much! 😊
Agree! Some of the absolute best movies are older! These days movies are (usually) just high tech action constantly. A truly good movie (or show) doesn’t need all that.
You ae the first reactors to understand that the "Redemption" was Red's, not Andy's. The perfect script, the perfect actors, the perfect director=The Perfect Movie!!
Yup. Red is the protagonist of the film, not Andy.
There is a reason this is considered one of the greatest movies ever.
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One of the points of the story I think is that people in prison are still people. They're not animals. They're being punished for their crimes by being there. Thinking the things they are going through somehow count less because they committed a crime is wild. Stephen King is a great storyteller. Good reaction.
I was a Correctional Officer for 7 years. I was also a field trainer. This was the very first thing I told every new officer. We're here to keep everyone safe, not punish them. They're already being punished.
the additional life sentences do have a purpose. It extends the period of time they gotta serve before they are eligible for first parole hearing. If 1 life sentence requires 20 years served before parole, 2 life sentences means he has to wait 40 years for his first hearing. They rarely give out more than 2 because they will be so old it wont matter.
Exactly my point... but I guess even critics who understand nothing about the law can have their say-though it carries virtually no merit since these two don't bother to educate themselves on the subject at hand.
Some corrections and clarifications: A life sentence is 25 years. And they give life sentences either consecutive or concurrent. And they are given per count of murder. So 2 murders could give 2 life sentences that serve at the same time(concurrent) meaning only 25 years is required before parole or back to back(consecutive) meaning 50 years to serve. And they give multiple sentences to "hedge their bets", if you beat a conviction on one count, you still have to serve life on the other. So your last sentence is completely false.
None of these comments have anything to do with Andy's convictions, because he was given double life sentences without possibility of parole. The reason why this is done, is because convictions can be overturned on appeal. So, even if the convict beats on sentence on appeal, he's still doing life. The chances of beating both on appeal are astronomical.
Omg guys, I love your reaction, the most emotional and honest one i've ever seen. I relived all the rollercoaster of feelings troughout the movie thanks to you both, keep up the good work.
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Great reaction like always, this is a masterpiece of cinema, A masterclass in pretty much every category. An incredible script, wonderful direction, gorgeous score and phenomenal performances by Freeman and Robbins. Some fun-facts about this movie, Stephen King sold the rights for $1,000.
The baseball throwing scene took 9 hours The scene where Andy and Red are standing and talking outside whilst Red is throwing a baseball back and forth took a staggering nine hours to film. Morgan Freeman threw the ball endlessly the whole time. The following day, when he arrived at work, his arm was in a sling.
Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford were considered for Red, and Brad Pitt audition for the role of Tommy but he pulled out of the role because of another movie, later Brad Pitr said he regretted that decision. Red’s mugshot is Morgan Freeman’s son , When you see Morgan Freeman’s papers at one of his parole hearings, there are mugshots of a younger Red attached. These are actually photos of Alfonso Freeman - Morgan’s son. He also had a small part in the movie. He was one of the inmates shouting ‘Fresh fish!’
Stephen King’s novella was titled, ‘Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption.’ This was shortened for the film because they didn’t want people to think it was a biopic about Rita Hayworth. This was proven to be true when several actresses applied for the ‘lead role of Rita Hayworth’. Keep up the amazing work.
5:20 Sears and Roebuck (most people just call it Sears) were like Walmarts back in the day, they pretty much sold everything.
More like Amazon. They first opened as a mail order business.
Next one....
The Green Mile, (also by King ...and also an Oscar winner)
; and also with a "special twist" 😜
The Sears and roebuck stores had a magazine that you could order anything from. Even a House. They would deliver it and you would build it 😅. When I was a child alot of people used the pages for toilet paper. Back when we had out houses.
A film that’s pure acting and story. Nothing else needed.
A lot of channels try to keep their reactions to about half hour, which makes for pretty heavy handed editing. Glad you didn't choose to go that route. Good job..👍
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And game of thrones 3x03
Good Will Hunting is another great 90's movie
Without any question the BEST reaction ever. You kept fairly quiet and hit all the high points. This is one of the best three or four films EVER!
we really appreciate that
It ran the same year as Pulp Fiction and Forest Gump. Gump got the Oscar. In fact, I believe Shawshank didn't even perform well in theaters, some attribute it to the movie title but had a big resurgence in rentals and tv.
What a year for movies.
Shawshank came out during a very heavy period of "tough on crime" in the states. Criminals weren't intended to be seen as people, just violent criminals that needed to be locked away. The masses had no desire to feel sympathetic towards criminals, so they stayed away
For years, it has been number one on the IMDb list.
Sears and Roebuck was mail order from a catalog. Amazon before Amazon.
Sears and Roebuk was a major retail store.
Yes, the catalog business did eventually turn into a retail setting.
Glad you guys watch that movie, it's not just a classic but one of the best movies in history.
It doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, if a movie is from the 80s, 90s or 2000s, if it's a great movie is all it matters and there are some great movies from the 90s n 2000s, probably a lot of great ones even older but not too familiar with those myself.
Look forward to more reactions like this
If you guys are willing to gamble on a really good, but very old movie, "12 Angry Men" was made in 1957 and is probably in my top 20 best movies of all time. There was a remake in the early 90s which was... okay, I guess, but not as good as the '57 film starring Henry Fonda. It is old as hell, black and white, but I don't think I've ever met someone who gave it a shot and didn't dig the hell out of it.
You may what to check 12 Angry Men as for "old movies" this one still lives up to this day.
I hear you, but I think you have the wrong preception of old cinema. The quality of storytelling is just superior. You really need to watch Casablanca, Breakfast at Tiffany's, To Kill a Mockingbird, Chinatown, etc. They will change your perspective. The 1970s and 1990s might be the two best decades for film, but the 40s-60s has some bangers. There's not a film in the last decade that holds a candle to any of these.
The reason Andy got two life sentences, is because they were treated as separate murders. It's also a way to guarantee that Andy stays in jail, in the event that he is later found innocent of one of the murders. Such as, if they later found out that Andy was innocent of shooting his wife, because it was determined that her lover was the one who shot her, and that Andy shot her lover for killing his wife. Andy would then have to still serve a life sentence for her lover's murder.
Not exactly. A "life sentence" is a minimum of 25 years. After that, a convict is eligible for parole. So two life sentences means a minimum of 50 years.
@@havok6280wrong... That's only in cases where it's life with the possibility of parole. Andy obviously was sentenced to life without the possibility. So, the reason for double life sentences, is to make sure he stays in prison in case he beats and overturns one of the convictions on appeal.
Glad you understand the meaning of this film. Redemption, Love, Friendship, HOPE. P.S. This film is rated as a Masterpiece and is the best film ever made. So when you both feel down watch this film again and you will have a beautiful life. I am a 71 old pensioner. 2024 and still watch this. Dave in Guernsey, Channel Islands.
The reason Red's parole was approved at the end was because his response was genuine, it meant something, it wasnt just a rehersed paragraph hoping to gain favor
The tonal color shift when Red heads to Buxton is amazing. And the harmonica as he approaches the wall.
The guard Hadley is the voice actor of Mr. Krabs from SpongeBob.
Shawshank is a top tier movie. Often times people who commit these terrible crimes aren't the same people when they get out. Some people don't learn but once you've been in so long, the person getting out isn't even the same person who went in. How much have you changed in 20+ years.
How was the sewer pressurized when it was half full? What would Andy have done if there was a steel grate welded over the end of the sewer?
Part II 😁 Been meaning to compliment who ever does the editing!! Done just right everytime. 🕊️☮️
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The white powder they throw on them is delousing powder- which is to get rid of lice and other parasitic bugs/insects.
5:20 comment, It's Macy's type store but owned by 2 guys. They had a magazine promoting their items and you could order from the catalogue and shipped to them.-Ernie Moore Jr.
there are many theories why red got parole at the end. i like the idea that he got it because he said he didn't care about it, basically admitting that he deserved to be in prison, which can be taken as proof of genuine remorse.
My theory is that after knowing about all the corruption at the prison, even the parole process became more humane and understanding.
Brilliant film. Brooks story crushes me everytime. Thanx so much for another great reaction, take care, Peace
Great reaction! I gave other channels some flak for making me feel old when they said they did not know what Sears and Roebuck was. I admit when Red said all anyone needs outside is the yellow pages, I was a little scared. If either of you had said what are the yellow pages? I would have moved into an old folks home!
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In the novella, Red's name is Red because he's a ginger haired Irishman.
"Sears & Roebuck" was a department store that now goes under just "Sears". It's like a middle-class Macys.
Lol at this point Macys is a middle class Macys
The powder is delousing powder
The movie was filmed at the (closed) Ohio Reformatory in Mansfield which is open to tours highlighting the locations used, and it is even said to be haunted. The tree and rock wall is not far from where I live. Several years ago a storm took out the tree, but it is neat to have a connection to one of the better movies of our time. “The Green Mile” is now a must watch for you two!!!
Sears & Roebuck started off as a catalog company that you could order from. They later became a department store... Sears & Roebuck which eventually just became Sears. 😅
Sears and Roebuck (or just Sears) is a department store. A department store is a large retailer that offers a wide variety of consumer products divided into different sections or departments.
I spent 3 years in USP Atlanta, a maximum security federal penitentiary. It's not exactly like Shawshank but similar in a lot of ways. In some ways it's better in other ways it's worse. It wasn't fun but it was an interesting experience... and I survived.
"I hope" 😭😭
Such an amazing movie!! Great reaction guys!!
The picture of Marylin Monroe is from the movie "The Seven Year Itch," which you should watch when you start getting around to much older movies.
Such a pleasant suprise. Two of my favorite reactors reacting to this classic. My day is much better all of a sudden
I believe that what got Red paroled was when he stated, "A young, stupid kid who committed that terrible crime".
That's an expression of true regret.
I always wonder how many prisoners up for parole have tried to give that speech, hoping it gets them out!
The 90s are a treasure trove of great movies: Philadelphia, Forrest Gump, The Green Mile, Office Space, Good Will Hunting, Jerry Maguire, and so much more. The 80s too!
When the policemen are saying "Goodluck Brooksie" it always makes me cry. His story is so sad and tragic... Then the movie brings your spirits back up👍🏼
The movie left out the reason Brooks was locked up. He killed his wife and daughter after a bad night at gambling.
Good morning. The reformatory used in the movie said it’s the old Ohio State reformatory in Mansfield Ohio. The street sings the market and the halfway house. We’re all here in Mansfield. I was fortunately enough to be an extra con in the yard. The reformatory and cell Block one is now a museum. You can tour it, they have mystery weekends, they offer overnight stays if you want to try it. They say it haunted. The premiere of the movie was actually held at the Renaissance theater in Mansfield, which is a 1929 restored movie house. From the Premier here that went to New York and then LA. An interesting sidenote is the fact that crows in the winter time come in from a seven county area and winter here. So we’re well acquainted with crows and Mansfield. I am now 75 with Parkinson’s and don’t get around much so enjoy listening to reaction videos on UA-cam. I’m sorry if the voice to text doesn’t always put the right word in. Very much enjoyed your review.
If I can recommend another movie that you will find very interesting and well worth it Spielberg’s Empire of the Sun. Outstanding photography great story line.
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Sears and Roebuck was a full color in later days mail order catalog. At its peak it paid for the world's tallest building at the time, the Sears Tower in Chicago. Discover credit card was spun off from Sears.
The scene where the guy slipped money in an envelope in with the pie, was the guy begging the warden to not take the job for the Highway bc he needed it to keep his businesses going. The warden was putting people outta business bc the labor cost was next to nothing, so the guy bribed him not to take the job
55:08 #movedpastthat.... Oh God...I've been alive to long!!!!! (1971) lol....🤣🤣I love you guys :)
Still one of my favorite all time movies! Love the reaction, thank you!
6:17 Sears and Roebuck, which later became Sears, the once ubiquitous national giant department store chain found at every mall, and now defunct, started as a mail order catalog where you could buy just about anything: clothes, cookware, hardware, machine guns, and even complete kits to build houses.
And these fresh convicts largely aren’t supposed to be in their 40s. Times was hard back then, people usually looked older than their actual age. They started smoking cigarettes when they were 10, they usually didn’t have adequate nutrition, if you grew up poor you often had to work laborious jobs outside or in a coal mine shortly after you could walk, and sunscreen really wasn’t a thing. You could have been 20 and looked 45 to a person of today.
Awesome movie guys👍after this one you have to react to The Green Mile, same director and the script is also based on a story from Stephen King just remember to keep the tissues close to you!!! Also today we celebrate Easter in my country so Happy Easter ❤
Totally echo this post. Please check out The Green Mile.
happy easter! what do you do for easter in your country?
@@TheOctobersReact We don't search for eggs we paint them and since before Easter there was a 40 day's period when meat was forbidden we tend to eat and drink 😊
The green mile Is a masterpiece and it wrecks me each time I watch it 😂
Written by the same Person, Mr Stephen King - I adore when he writes like this, he just *Chefs kiss*
Shawshank is my all-time favorite movie.
It's been previously posted but it bears repeating. This movie is one of three director Frank Darabont adapted from Stephen King. You MUST check out The Green Mile next. Another prison movie but a very different one. Have tissues ready when you watch it. The other movie is The Mist - that's a straight out horror movie - also worth watching.
PS- The Red reference is a shout-out due to the book where Red was described as Irish.
Multiple life sentences make perfect sense, if you kill multiple people you deserved to sentenced for each crime no matter if you are alive to serve it, if one of the victims was your relative wouldn't you want them to recieve a sentence for it regardless of what ever else they got? Each victim deserves individual justice, it's that simple, and for example what if one of the cases got turned over later and he gets out, with multiple sentences he's going nowhere.
To answer the question why he got to life sentences or you will even sometimes hear people get 150 years in prison that’s because the judge wants to ensure that that person never gets out of prison so if you just lump it to one live sentence, you may have an issue later down the road with that charge somehow getting dropped because of a loophole and now that person is walking the streets if you give them to life sentences, one could be dropped while the other one still stands, and it just ensures that that dangerous person never gets out of prison. Or if you give them 100 years in prison, that’s probably because they had multiple different charges that on that person and they’re making them serve them consecutively so if the same thing happens like a loophole and a charge gets dropped again that person still not walking the streets
Oh, jeez, Sears & Roebuck is *that* far back!? Huge national department store in the U.S., and one of the original mail-order places (decades ago!). Their massive catalogues were famous! Still some around, I think, although the one nearest me closed a couple of years ago.
They gave him parole because he finally told the truth.
@15:00 It’s always a good fight, even if you lose, as long as you’re fighting for the right reasons.
"What's a Sears and Roebuck?" 😅😅So young. Hey Octobers. This is the best movie ever made. Good to see you guys reacting to it. Remember me? Every Time I see you I say "More Dave Chappelle."
4:15 They give double life sentences so there is no chance for parole later on. Sometimes things can happen later on that may reduce someone's sentence, like good behavior, so they will give them extra time on top of the life sentence to make sure even if some time is taken off his sentence later on he will still be in prison for life. Basically they are padding the years he must serve so there is no chance he can get out later on.
Long before Walmart took over, Sears (popular department store and hardware store) was one of the most popular stores in the US. Sears and Roebuck company was their original name. Holiday catalogs would come in the mail (about 2-3 inches thick, 200-300 pages). My mom got me an electric guitar in 1980 from Sears and Roebuck. Just 6 years ago, the wife and I bought a refridgerator at the local Sears store in town (they tanked just a couple years ago. )
The other good Morgan Freeman movie is "Glory". It was aabout the first African-Americans recruited to fight in the US Civil War in the north. It's a pretty dramatic depicting how African Americans were treated at the time.. There are some gruesome battle scenes so be prepared if you think of watching. There are also a lot of stars you might recognize.
SEARS was a large company that had store in most cities and you could mail order stuff from them....pretty much Walmart decades before Walmart.
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Well edited !...you managed to keep all pertinent parts so we didn't miss anything..brovo 👏👏👏...
This movie was so well written and the actors did an amazing job..the cast was excellent as well...
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Try movies from the 30-50's too. You are still growing and maturing. Eventually you will get there.
I love this movie ❤
Written by the BEST author... STEPHEN KING.
I think it won an Oscar as well... 😘
I think its one of the top movies of all time. Just a brilliant story showing the human condition. Superb acting. Excellent pacing. This is the art of timeless film.
this is still no.1 movie of all time is for reason because it's that good.
So glad you enjoyed this one, it's one of my favorites... 🙂
The 90s was a great decade for movies, and do not apologize for saying you are open to watch movies of any era, you should not have to explain yourself, my favorite movie of all time was Forrest Gump, followed closely by THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION at #2, many more movies from the 90s you guys would enjoy, here is another gem you guys would love from the 90s "Last of the Dogmen", I dont even think I have seen any reactions for that one, trust me, you guys will love that movie, great reaction, take care guys!
The 80s and 90s were the golden era for movies IMO.
Not an opinion, facts
This movie is filmed at the Ohio State Reformatory in Mansfield, Ohio. I got to take a private tour of the prison, a family friend was one of the people working on renovating it at the time, and got us a cool tour on the weekend once. Really cool to see everything from the movie. Seeing the cell blocks and the wardens office was cool af. And the tunnel through the wall is just a PVC pipe thats 6ft long.
Lil Wayne also recorded his Go DJ music video there, and parts of Air Force One are filmed there too.
They have ghost tours/haunts and in the summer they have a Tattoo and Metal Festival on the front lawn called Inkarceration Fest.
Highly worth the visit if you're ever in that area.
And tango and cash and Godsmack and many more