Colin Cowherd reacts to LeBron scoring his 30,000th career point | THE HERD
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- Colin Cowherd talks LeBron James. Hear Colin's thoughts on the 'The King' reaching 30k career points during his NBA career. Plus, hear what Nick Wright had to say about Cleveland's star.
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Colin Cowherd reacts to LeBron scoring his 30,000th career point | THE HERD
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Should the Cavaliers consider making any major trades?
The Herd with Colin Cowherd yeah trade I.T. Jae Crowder JR and TT for anywhere that fits. Keep Love because he plays well as a second option to LeBron
Trade everyone besides love. Even Ty Lue.
Trade Love, IT, and the Brooklyn pick and see if you can get George and Boogie or Deandre. They need a wing defender and a rim protector to compete with Golden State.
The Herd with Colin Cowherd can’t agree with that one. LBJ gets his whole team involved Jordan is Great LBJ IS Great too. Different styles but I’ll take LeBron
They better!
what it boils down to is that every nba great has brought their authenticity to the game. nick said it, only player to post 30k pts...7k reb...7k assist which both are bout to be 8k. the fact that he was able to do this coming straight out of high school!!!.... to me, greatness is a matter of authenticity. lebron is the only in any playoff series, let alone, the finals to lead both teams in all 5 categories. he gets my respect; keep doing what you're doing King James. #muchlove
Nothing better than Cowherd on LeBron
MICHAEL JORDAN HAS 32292 POINTS IN 14 YEARS IN NBA.... JAMES IS 15 YEARS IN NBA HAD ONLY 30021 HOW ABOUT THAT JORDAN IS BETTER!!! JORDAN>LEBRON
jero kitz did not listen at all?
+jero kitz and Jordan also averaged 12 more shots per game than LeBron...and 5 less assists. ....
@@BadTripHero passed him on less shots
@@BadTripHero Lebron better
LBJ is the Goat.. give Jordan the rings but LBJ is clearly the Greatest all around player of all time!!!
Callie Steele how so?
take the rings away MJ is better still
nottttttt!!!! he's lame
Even if we are not talking rings Jordan still has more achievements
Jordan > Lebron why because Michael Jordan Played in NBA just 14 year"s Got 32,254 point Lebron get 30,000 in 15 years... abdul jabar get 37k beacause he played in NBA 20 years!
Nick’s statement about LeBron living up to the hype is so true. Think back to when you were 15. How immature and inexperienced you were as compared to now. Now imagine being 15 and having the whole world know you. Imagine being 18 and entering the highest tier of basketball in the world, and EXCEEDING to the standards placed on you. This has always been to me the greatest thing about LeBron. Props for 30K points, and many to come.
40 year olds be like:
MJ is the GOAT
Realists be like:
LeBron is better at everything
I expect you're a kid, judging by your statement. I'm in my early 50s and there are valid arguments for Jordan being the greatest and valid arguments for LeBron being the greatest. (There are no valid arguments for Kobe being the greatest.)
@@Armygirlsdad this is the correct take
Lbj is a stat padder
Wait if lebron is the goat then whats giannis
@Joe Joe be like:dUuUr
Fast forward five years and Bron has passed Magic in assist, Kareem in points, and still playing at an elite level
Hold up.. James scoring is incidentally... r u high?? He’s has evolved soooooo much as a shooter..sooo much . It’s disrespectful to call his scoring “incidental “..
lol, "r u high?" it's kinda how i feel when people say this about his scoring. As if he didn't just reach freaking 30,000 points. Like he fumbles around with the ball and it suddenly appears in the hoop.
Real talk
Mervin Morgan, Jr. sometimes he says the dumbest stuff
What he means is LeBron is a pass first player.. Look at the players who scored 30k how many times they average 6 ast or more in a season?
LeBron had the greatest block of all time. 30k points. I'm with Colin we are LeBron fangirls
nope. Tayshaun Prince did it first. Do your homework son.
R D. Did what? Against the greatest reg season team ever? Na man.
R D did he do it to save the finals and set up kyrie to hit a game winner. Try again son
Bro I will cross you up on the court.
greatest block of all time is debatable. i gotta give that to nate robinson for blocking yao ming. how many people can say they blocked someone 2 feet taller
He's averaging 27 for a career....🤔 how's he not a scorer????
LeBron has averaged over 25 for now 14 years in a row...no ones ever done that...he's the most consistent scorer...
Asmosis Jones my point exactly so how's he not a scorer???
Cedrick Carson because his position is really a Point forward/Point guard. He prefers to find the open man and pass up his opportunity to score. Sooo it’s very impressive he’s the youngest to score from every point total from 1,000-30,000
With his ability, he could've been averaging over 35 ppg multiple years running. He's the only member of the 18k/8k/8k club. His first instinct is to facilitate. "He's not a scorer" means he doesn't have the mentality of a scorer. He has the mentality of a facilitator. His scoring comes second to his facilitating.
Imagine if lebron had 5 championships then he would be like tom brady
I liked the Emphasis on 'Think about that He's gunna pass the best Point guard in assist' wow good stuff
Lebron will be only player in the club 30k 10k 10k
Kinda makes him the goat maybe in 3 more years
LawrenceTaylorMachine he already the goat bro
I can see LeBron making 35k/9k/9k. Going 10k/10k is more chancy, but still doable. There is an outside chance he can go 40k/10k/10k. But he's already the only player at 18k/8k/8k (and all the other point totals up to 30k).
Here we are at 40/11/11
so impressive that hes in the thirty thousand thousand eight thousand ten thousand 20 thousand 50 thousand club... nick wright practiced all night to master that
of course lebron will probably pass magic johnson. magic johnson had to retire from the game at age 32 after 11 seasons. it will take probably take lebron until his 18th-19th season to catch magic. theres a reason why he is number 5 on the all time assist leader board. if he had a normal career johnson would probably be either number 2 or 1 and have 5000-6000 more assists.
average counts more than total, Magic 11.2 apg Lebron 7.1 apg
That only shows how much greater Lebron is, he's durable, he CAN play those games. Lebron is not my favorite player, but is accolades speak for themselves.
Anderson131100 its not like lebron is the ironman of nba history. i guess john stockton is greater than lebron then because lebron has already missed three times as many games as he has and lebron hasnt even entered his twilight yet so no doubt it will increase.
Anderson132100 You're acting like Magic was out because of a normal basketball injury. He didn't break a leg or throw out his back. He got Aids. Nothing related to basketball at all. Has nothing to do with durability
Anderson132100 wtf magic Had aids 😑 you can’t play with that lebron had a head start coming in after high school imagine Kareem mj or magic coming out of high school
Magic really played only 11 seasons.
LeBron shoots more than any teammate that He had. So He has been the focal scoring point all his career (specially early on). With that been said... He is obviously a beast. No one needs to change the truth to speak him up
PS - Nick Wright shouldn't be aloud to speak about Basketball after last year's comments. At least for a while.
Pedro Luna Freire Kyrie averaged more shots and more points per game last season then LeBron......
And took a loss to a Spurs bench.
You’re a LeBron hater
Real talk
Oh my god. I forgot LeBron has lost a Finals game, unlike MJ who couldn’t make it out of the first round without Pippen so he didn’t have that opportunity
Ethan Kirkeeng - Not gonna lie, Pippen was the man. There's a great video called, "Scottie Pippen - Mr. All Around".
TrooperJoe73 regular season
Obviously hes going to pass magic in assists. Hes played like 5 more seasons than magic, way more games, way more minutes
And Magic was a starting Point Guard, while LeBron is a starting frontcourt player.
Magic feeding the post to Kareem is an assist 80% of the time, and this happened for 9 years. Lebron assisting bums in Cleveland (his first 7 year stint) is an assist 8% of the time. Poor Bron was feeding Z Ilgauskas in the post. So it is a wash.
"He once had a commercial for CIGARETTES" lmao
Zydrunas ilgauskas part made me laugh
Magic is not the best PG ever. John Stockton is. Point guards pass and play defense. John Stockton holds the record for assists and steals and neither one of those records will ever be broken. Flashy passing is cool and all but the numbers dont lie.
Swiss Army Knife!!!!😅 got me rollin...
Magic = 19 pts and 11 asts a game. So 19 + 22 (each assist is 2 pts if not a 3 but for at least sake it’s 2). So that’s at least 41 pts a game scored or assisted on.
Jordan = 30pts and 5ast so 30 + 10 = at least 40 pts a game scored or assisted on.
Lebron = 27pts and 7ast so 27 + 14 = at least 41 pts scored or assisted on.
Now this all on average so I’m not cherry picking anything. They all got basically 40 a game through scoring and assisting.
I don’t know if anyone else comes close. Bird had 24 and 6 so that’s 36 and Kobe had 25 and 5 so that’s 35. Maybe Oscar but pace adjusted I’m not sure. Magic, Lebron, and Jordan were all equally great offensively on average they just got there a little differently.
Though Kobe and Lebron playing longer than MJ, Magic, and Bird actually brings their averages down. So they should get a boost for longevity.
Good analogy on mix of NFL players 👏💎
Stats alone he is already the greatest NBA player everrrrr! For all the haters let that sink in for a second!!!!!
Cowherd isnt putting down Magic...its just that hes a pg and lebron is basically a pf.. Thats what is amazing about lebron......The Goat
People act like brons longevity is a knock and that's insane. That bro is durable and plays forever good for him. Keep racking up these accomplishments player.
The major thing that many people forget is that jordan miss the 1986 with an injury and retire for 1 full season and the half of the other (1994-1995) and then retire again for 2 full seasons (1999-2000) so if he didn't retire from the game he should reach 30k points at 33 so he will be the youngest and he will pass by far the 40k
Yeah its impressive but keep in mind:
LeBron James in 42970 minutes of play he has 7858 assists and 30021 points
Magic Johnson in 33245 minutes of play he had 10141 assists
Michael Jordan in 41011 minutes of play had 32292 points
Devyn Corvington Okay and, Jordan's a better scorer, and magic was a more prolific passer, that's not news
You're right but Lebron is a more efficient shooter than Jordan, he just never shot nearly as much him. He's not a better passer than Magic but not many are. Also Lebron has 30,000 points 7,000+ rebounds and 7,000+ assists and he's the only one with those numbers.
with kareem
How about listing points for Magic and assists for Jordan for a better comparison. Also rebounds and shooting percentage. Just picking the best thing Magic did and the best thing Jordan did, isn't much of a comparison at all. Kareem has more points than Jordan btw, but points aren't the only thing that matter.
literally comparing to the greatest scorer and the greatest passer at the SAME TIME like that's gotta be a good thing
Can we stop the lies that LeBron isn't a scorer? All because he's passive aggressive in his basketball play-style doesn't mean he's not a scorer . How many SIGNIFICANT basketball games has LeBron had where his greatest impact wasn't scoring?
He's not Jordan, Kobe type of scorer. He's something beetwen Magic and Jordan.
Ivan Ok but to say "he's a pass first player " just because he can pass is a lie. If he was pass first D Wade would've averaged 30 the 1st year they played together same thing with Kyrie.
lol yeah hes not like them because he doesnt have as many moves but that doesnt mean much
Ivan he’s a more efficient scorer than Kobe. Just because he doesn’t jack up shots doesn’t mean Kobe is a better scorer.
yh I know that whole thing is little overblown. HE averages nearly 20FGA for his career
The only thing that I would dispute in Cowherd's rant is the notion that we have never seen another athlete with the awesome power and durability of Lebron James. That other athlete is the great Jim Brown. In his day, in his prime, there was absolutely no other athlete in a team sport that could compare with him. He played nine seasons and never missed a game. Coaches on opposing teams built their defenses to stop one man; and they couldn't stop him. He set the standard for all other professional footballers; and his records stood for twenty years, until they were ultimately challenged by players who had to play more games per season to amass the totals that would equal and surpass Brown's numbers. He was, without a doubt, the greatest physical specimen of his era (1950s-1960s).
Greatest football player of all time definitely greatest rb of all time. LeBron and Jim Brown have 1 major thing in common......each played in CLEVELAND!!!
This video is all facts man, MJ lovers need to accept that Lebron is just a better all around player and plays against harder competition in a better era
do you have any idea how soft the nba is today compared to the late 80's/90's? If you're too young to remember then that's alright. But i'm sorry, MJ was better at everything.
I truly don’t understand why You can’t mention Lebron being great without someone thinking your discrediting Jordan’s greatness ? If you want a pure scorer you obviously take Jordan, if you want a great all around player.. you take Lebron. It’s all preference but I’ll end this comment with this, in 1992/1993 The Bulls went 57-25, the year after WITHOUT Jordan they went 55-27.... now for Lebron, in 2009/2010 they went 61-21 the year after WITHOUT Lebron they went 19-63.... 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
GOKU4PRESIDENT stop with that bs. The bulls were much better then the the cavs so of course when lebron leaves they gonna take a hit. Plus they lost other significant players to. This argument only proves that Jordan had more stable help while lebron played with more talent.
NotAcasual BBallfan I agreed with you until the end. Lebron had less talent on his team, that’s why he had to go to Miami, to get talent around him. But yeah Jordan played on a team that was consistently good and had Pippen and great coaching, luxuries Lebron didn’t have.
NotAcasual BBallfan exactyl tf are you saying Lebron had more talent ?
The statistical truth always wins me over.emotion is untouchable but u can’t count out the stats guys
It's amazing how sports commentators don't know about rules in the 50's. They actually called "palming."
Colin, Chris Brown is the most talented person in Hollywood 😂
Can't act
Michael Garrison this Christmas? Takers? Stomp the yard? He can act, not the magnitude of Jamie but he can act
Harold G if its not the Magnitude of Foxx then its irrelevant to this convo
Alot of haters here.....like Colin said look who Lebron even played w for his 1st Seven years and was still able to reach this achievment and be the youngest to do it. Just sit back enjoy GREATNESS and thank Lebron for what hes done for the NBA for the past decade.
I'm sorry but yes, if you score 30000 points, YOU ARE A SCORER! LOL!
LeBron may get to 40,000 and at worst 38,000....saying he isn't a scorer seems dumb....doesn't he have a top 2 game 7 scoring average all time top scoring average in elimination games and top 5 playoff per game average and like top 6-7 regular season scoring average ...
Saying "he's not a scorer" doesn't mean he doesn't score. It means that's not his first choice. His first choice is to facilitate. He's a facilitator who scores.
Just like there will never be another MJ, there will never be another LeBron James...when will he retire we will never know but while he's still carrying the torch let appreciate what the man has to offer...
Colin on point as usual!!!
LeBron is not a "pass first" player. He averages 7 assist per game, not 15. Meanwhile Jordan the "ballhog" only averages 2 less assists. You mean to tell me the difference between ballhog and passfirst player is 2 lousy assists per game?
Antonio Sanders well, 2 assists per game is 40% more than Jordan so yes it is a big difference. Not to mention he is averaging almost 8 this year and over 10 last year in the post season.
He hasn't really played like the point forward he is his whole career. Especially not in Miami. But that is for sure his natural tendency, I think that's the point Colin was making.
It's about his playstyle and natural tendencies, not what he is forced to do by circumstance.
Kobe and Jordan were scorers, that doesn't mean they never got assists.
LeBron is a point forward, doesn't mean he never scores.
Mokujin Lebron has played point forward his entire career.
saying he is not a pass 1st player because he doesnt average double digit assist is unfair seeing how virtually no one does that. over time averaging 2 assist more a game does add up, for example, if lebron and jordan only played 10 years that average 2 assist turns into a difference of 1600+ assist.
not every pass is an assist
hard to pass first when there is no one to pass to. During all of LeBron's original Cavs years he was supposed to get 15 assists per night passing to......to whom? And which players would in turn go out and score all of the points to ensure that the team actually won games?
Have you ever actually watched him play?
Nick just repeated what Kellerman said. Lmao
Colin head game on ten right now
youre Great by yourself Cowherd, but with the boy Nick Wright youre the best talking head in US Sports history. Hands down
Don’t insult Zydrunas Ilgauskas like that
Nick and Colin ... Good Stuff!!!
Donald Glover instead of Jamie foxx now
In my opinion, if we are going to talk greatest ever, we have 1. Jordan 2-4. Kareem, Russell, and Magic 5. Lebron. Until Lebron passes any of those 2-4 in anything they are good at, then we will open up the debate for whether he is the GOAT. Magic = better passer/ ran best offense ever, 9 finals appearances in 12 years, 5 rings (Bron averaged less assists, less rebounds, less finals appearances as of now 8 in 11 years, 3 rings). Russell won more rings, 3 rings as a player/coach (Bron has 1), averages more rebounds and blocks, and is a better leader for the loads and loads of hof players they both played with (Ray Allen, Wade, Kyrie, Bosh and former allstars include: Rose, Korver, Love, Rishard Lewis, Shaq, Deron Williams). Kareem had more points, rebounds, mvps, blocks, championships than Lebron and beats him in every longevity category except assists and steals.
This is what mf lebron haters don’t understand he is the best ever in all those senses Colin’s analogy today was a great one taking off the championships
Lebron absorbs so much defence that he has open teammates who are NBA players. Magic Johnson is the best point guard ever but he was the best at assists and his career was cut short so Lebron getting more assists isn’t a big deal.
Championships are a team achievement, Michael Jordan didn't win any championships before Scottie Pippen . As far as a individual player in the league , LEBRON JAMES the greatest basketball player to put his feet on the court PERIOD!!!!!!!
Why be negative on greatness dnt make sense
correction: provided if LeBron stays healthy (and I hope he does), he is on track to beat Magic Johnson on assists.
LeBron is literally a prodigy. There's no denying that. Born with the physical gifts, superb athleticism, incredible basketball IQ, A great role model and has stayed on track despite the criticism and expectations, EXCEEDED THE HYPE.
I'm starting to think his unknown dad may be Jesus...
Those are good arguments. But now do the same with MJ's resume and see if it's still as impressive.
The youngest player to reach 30,000 points isn't a scorer? Lol. That's the perfect example of a contradiction. I get his point though. And a lot of people try to make this incorrect point. It's not that LeBron isn't a scorer. He clearly is! Again, he's the youngest to reach 30,000 points, with a pretty good field goal percentage at that, further proving the point. Anyway, the reason people get this wrong because he's a guy that can do most things really really well due to the combination of his athleticism, basketball intelligence, and strength. We're not used to seeing scorers posses these varying abilities. It tricks untrained eye into thinking LeBron isn't a scorer because we're forced to appreciate other factors of his game. But he's an amazing scorer, and an amazing passer, a winner, and so many other great things in basketball. So again, what is happening is people look at scorers like Jordan, Kobe, or whoever, and admire them for their scoring abilities. It's what shines when you think of those guys. Ask anyone what Jordan and Kobe were good at, and most will say scoring. The truth is, if Lebron averaged half as many assists and rebounds as he did for his career, he'd be considered a scorer too. I'm sure some will say, "but he's a pass first guy", "and we just mean that scoring comes second for him". Well guess what? He's 7th on the all time scoring list (youngest to get there), but 12th on the all time assists list. Just something to ponder.
He's not a scorer because that's not his first option. His first option is to facilitate. He's a facilitator who scores a lot.
just because you have greater net totals doesn't mean you're better, it just means you played longer
Kyle Moskowitz false Duncan played 20 years where is he at???
Donald Glover is more talented than Jamie Foxx somebody show Colin who Donald Glover is
Captainpuntymidgets Stay Woke.
But Jamie Foxx is a better singer and dancer than Donald Glover is an actor.
Jak Dee Donald is way more talented....Jamie foxx made blame it on the alcohol 😂😂😂
Jak Dee Donald Glover also created and writes and directs and acts in his Emmy winning show Jamie just....acts
Captainpuntymidgets and DG starred in Human Giant. Everyone has regrets in their careers. I'm just saying that I think Jamie's high points in his career are higher than Donald's. And until Donald can do what Jie did in Ray, Jamie should be considered more talented.
Colin breaks this down perfectly cuz Lebron's first 7 years he didn't have a talented team, but he's gonna beat Magic.
I love Colin he makes so many good points but he sort of contradicts his own statements, yes I agree the players today are a 100 times better than back then, nick young could beat bob cousy or someone of his era with just his left hand, personally, Anthony Davis would beat Kareem in a one on one easy. But yet, Colin says that Kareem is the greatest scorer ever, yea he scored the most amount of points by a stretch which is amazing but look at who he did that to, some of these bench players today would be legends if they played back then, nobody back then besides the 90’a players and late 80’s was that great
Comparison to TB12? Maybe just got getting to the final round. But TB12 has 5 rings, going for 6... much better record for when it counts. ;)
Shea Billadeau plays offense
what are you talking about lebrons not a scorer wtf
Trump Supporter that’s what I’m saying lol, lebrons an ll time great scorer too
never had a meltdown? bro 2011
Colin, more like Big like Cam Newton and fast like Mike Vick.
Its a stretch to say that lebron will pass magic in assist and lebron is my Fav player of all time......but he still has some time to go
Magic only played 12 seasons. Plus, in his time defenses were congested inside the paint so it was harder to find an open man. Today, defenses are stretched out, which gives better court vision. Yeah LeBron is great. But in passing, Magic > LeBron
Lee Brandt he said Magic was the better passer
NoIContact passing and triple doubles. LeBron is equal or better in most other categories including athleticism
Lee Brandt That's also only a half-truth. Look at how many open people Magic used to find right next to the ring in the half-court. Defenses back then would break down coz players weren't as disciplined. It goes both ways.
Patrick Mah not really. You could find open players in transition but not in set defenses unless you created a shot. I don't agree that they were less disciplined
Lee Brandt wrong Magic had the NBA all time scoring leader who happen to be the center with the most unstoppable move in NBA history! Set up the offense dump it in the post to Kareem sky hook! Magic had better players than most teams so Magics assist actually came easier! Know all of your history or don't tell half the history to support your narrative
He takes games off, never heard Larry Bird ever doing that. Lebron is a show with no substance.
NIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!!!
"Greatest overall player of alltime" why not just say "Greatest player of alltime?" Either he's not the greatest player of alltime or he is, don't add words thinking it means something different
Hopefully he touches on the fact that this is Lebrons worst stretch of games since his rookie season.
Nikelas Williamson this isn't about this season this is more a reflection of his career as a whole. Obviously he's struggling but that's something for another segment not this one
By the +/- stat. Its not a reliable stat. Just like defensive rating stat. Kyrie is rated 12th in the league. Yall think hes the 12th best defender?
He’s not saying it’s literally incidental , but instead is implying that Lebron makes it seem like it’s incidental lol
3-5!Whats next?3-6,3-7,3-8.Not a good resume.
i care for Lebron but James Harden will surpass this with ease #facts ..check his back ground
AMEN!!!!!!
GOAT
A remarkable achievement no doubt, but talk about a similar type of accolade (Westbrook triple double in relation to similar solo acknowledgement) last year and russ is “selfish, doesn’t think of the team” this is the worst stretch since lebron started in the nba. It’s about a team not an individual. I get these shows are about ratings but I’d like to see more of a balanced analysis of players rather than favouritism
Don't ever compare LeBron's game to Russel's, although both produce high numbers across the board, it's clear to see they are both very different in terms of IQ and efficiency.
lpfan23 I don’t mean to say Westbrook is better than lebron. Lebron is and will be an all time great. What I am critiquing is Colin’s bias towards Lebron. Yes he deserves the credit Lebron for an individual achievement. But Russell’s triple double last year was also an individual achievement and yet Colin criticised for RW accomplishing it.
I know you didn't imply Russell was better, what Colin critiques is the way in which Russell plays. His game often comes as a hindrance to his team, his decision-making is terrible at times.
But according to what he said in the video, Lebron is gonna have more assists than Magic Jonhson. So, team involvemnt.
Yes because we're all dying to see an in depth breakdown of the Hawks and Nets game
Is Colin on Lebron's payroll ???
It's easy to beat Magic in assists when Magic only played in 906 games vs LeBron already playing 201 MORE games and is still over 2,300 assists away from "passing" Magic... Ridiculous. Also, being the youngest to 30K is very impressive but MJ lost nearly his entire age 22 season and didn't play at age 20 in the league. MJ averaged over 2,500 points per season in his first 8 seasons he scored 26,055 pts, that's not counting his age 22 or 31 seasons where he only played 17 games due to injury and 18 because he was retired for almost 2 years. LeBron hit 30k in 15 seasons. Any of these historical stats can be broken if the player plays long enough. The per game averages is what matters to me. Magic averaged over 11 assists per game and scored just shy of 20 points per game. No doubt if he shot more and passed less Magic has LeBron's 27-7-7 stash line, instead Magic is 19.5-11-7
Jeff Hill the only problem with your argument is that Magic Johnson's efficiency would have plummeted. his game was free throw line in and he's probably the only player in history whose scoring was the direct product of his passing instead other way around. He averaged 19.5 because it would've taken him too many tries to put up those numbers consistently.
I have an issue with nick Wright guaranteeing that lebron will be in the finals this year
Magic didn’t play as long
hahahahahahaha jamie fox is the most talented person in hollywood.
magic johnson was better pg than Stockton but John had only Malone to pass. He created for too many scrubs his entire career. Jeff Hornacek came to Utah at age of 32. Before that Stockton had nothing but terrible players. Magic had waaaaay better help. magic better player but I put Stockton as better passer. by far.
Magic played about 12-13 seasons, lebron played 8 seasons with great players, with an extra 7 at the beginning in Cleveland. Of course he’s gonna pass magic, especially playing 15 years. Don’t make the point that he’s gonna pass magic of course he will. Besides Stockton is the all time assist leader not magic lol stop creating these analogies that don’t make sense Colin
he #1
Yeah of course he will overtake magic in assist becuase he will play 400 more games than him, bad logic
jedi And Russell Westbrook will play 500 more games then magic and won’t
Pass him in assists.
Curry will play 500 more games then magic and won’t pass him in assists, MJ played 300 more games then magic and has about half the assists magic has. Stop discrediting lebrons accomplishments and appreciate THE GOAT
Not discrediting at all, LBJ is top 5 greatest of all time if he retired tomorrow, just saying that average points is a better indicator than total points, thats all
Whos Magichedjabaar
LeBron in his prime and his team is 8 games over 500....
Central District he’s not in his prime. Dude is wore out every 4th quarter.
Central District he was in his prime 5 years ago and on the back end and still the best player in the world
Central District oh so 33 years old is a players prime now?? We’re just changing everything we know about basketball to fit our hater narrative???
"LeBron becomes the youngest player to earn 30,000 career points"
He entered the league at 18, of course he was going to be the youngest
Which of course is another compliment to Lebron. Most of the other all time greats weren't good enough to go straight to the NBA from high school. I doubt MJ would have been a 1st round pick straight out of high school much less the overall #1.
So why didn’t Kobe, KG or Tracy McGrady reach it faster then? They all came in at 18 also so your comment makes any no sense. Lebron is the best to ever do it just give him his props.
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I'll explain why those three didn't.
Kobe wasn't a starter the first two seasons of his career
KG wasn't a starter his rookie season
McGrady was on the bench in his first three seasons in Toronto and was not a starter until his 4th season when he was with Orlando.
LeBron has been a starter since Day One.
IJR Sports you just made HarpoSpoke's point even more. If they were good enough, they would have been starting and scoring like LeBron. They weren't, and neither was Jordan. And if you think they had the potential to be starting scorers but was held back by their coaches, does that make sense? Why would a coach not start players if they could contribute like a starter?
I understand what you are saying about those three but you realize that Jordan started from day one just like LeBron.
The only difference is that one joined the league at 18 and the other started at 21.
Overall career stats don't prove anything. Lebron can have the career records. Even Mark Jackson has more assists than Magic, Oscar, Isiah, and Payton. That doesn't make him better. Karl Malone has more points than Shaq, Wilt, and MJ. Doesn't mean he's a better scorer. Same with Lebron getting more career points than MJ.
Lebron will probably have most of the career records, but he doesn't measure up to the likes of Jordan in the playoffs and finals, where it actually matters most. Lebron in his prime, choked away the 2011 finals and was outscored by bench player Jason Terry, and this was while playing 11 more mins per game than him.
scoop245 facts. Analytics guys have pretty much looked at stats and advanced metrics to elevate LeBron over mj
scoop245 yea and I remember when miami focused their whole defense to stop Jason Terry.... Wait... 😒
scoop245 Jordan couldn't beat anyone before pippen 🤷🏻♂️
Captainpuntymidgets Jordan played against a dynastic Celtics team with 4 hall of famers. When you score 63 and still lose, then you're obviously not the issue
brandon chrisentery they didn't double LeBron that series. They played zone on him because they knew that he wasn't a good shooter
This is hilarious. Jordan played in a time when kids didn’t go straight to the nba. They had to go to college first. If Jordan played now with not having to go to college, with these rules, and a three point attack added to his game he would average 45 a game. That is the question everyone should ask. Could Lebron put up the same numbers in a more physical nba? We all know Jordan’s numbers would be better? Would lebrons be the same or better back then? Not a chance.
vogelrol Jordan couldn't survive in today's league he didn't have a 3 pointer till they moved the line in and they moved the line back out and it went to garbage...you lack knowledge
Captainpuntymidgets whoa there you lack basketball knowledge. No one ever said Jordan was a great 3 pt shooter. He was ok especially considering his era but thing is, he rarely took 3’s so that’s not a good argument. Btw he has the finals record for 3 pointers in a half and no the 3pt line was the same as it is now that year.
Captainpuntymidgets you also said Jordan would struggle in today’s league? Why was he getting 25 6 and 7 in the 2002 season up until he got injured? Why was averaging 20 ppg on 46% shooting at 40 against modern players ? Lol
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Captainpuntymidgets Dwyane Wade shot 17% from 3 in 2006..... he got finals mvp that year. This notion that you have that Jordan somehow wouldn’t improve his 3pt game the same way Kobe, Lebron, DeMarcus cousins, etc. did is quite laughable
Captainpuntymidgets You really think if Jordan played in today's game he would be content hoisting up 10 threes a game on his immediate defenders? Ever watch the defenses he and the Bulls went up against in the late 80s/early 90s? If Jordan wasn't afraid to drive to the hoop and get clobbered by those beasts of the East you favor to guess he would be hesistant to do so against some of today's team defenses? He wouldn't need to make his 3 from behind the arc. He'd get it the old fashioned way. Time and time again. At least 15 trips to the charity stripe every night. Jordan would RIP LeBron's (and everyone else's) heart out, squash it, stick his tongue out for good measure, laugh about it all the way to another 3-peat then retire early because he is bored of the competition and would rather spend his time gambling.
As the truly observant sports fans are likely thinking: If last night was not one of the most definitive microcosms of the LeBron James story, then I do not know what is:
A defining non-postseason, (non-team) personal achievement/moment for a superstar who seemingly never misses significant time from injury (because of tremendous strength/conditioning/other factors) while losing a game his underachieving team really should have won; possibly because of defensive/team chemistry/head coach's job status issues.
Wilt is the most overrated player of all time
The Yeti Wilt was a freak of nature. They literally had to change the rules because of him. He was a stat monster, not a winner like Russell. But he's hardly overrated. He once lead the league in assists just to prove he could.
The Yeti Kobe, Chris Paul by some, Kareem to an extent.
xbefri23 You sound stupid!
The Yeti
Wilt Chamberlain Accolades: 2 TIME NBA CHAMPION (1967, 1972), NBA FINALS MVP (1972), 4 TIME NBA MVP (1960, 1966-1968), 13 TIME NBA ALL STAR (1960-1969, 1971-1973), NBA ALL STAR GAME MVP (1960), 7 TIME ALL NBA FIRST TEAM (1960-1962, 1964, 1966-1968), 3 TIME ALL NBA SECOND TEAM (1963, 1965, 1972), 2 TIME NBA ALL DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM (1972, 1973), NBA ALL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR (1960), 7 TIME NBA SCORING CHAMPION (1960-1966), 11 TIME NBA REBOUNDING CHAMPION (1960-1963, 1966-1969, 1971-1973), and NBA ASSISTS LEADER (1968).
Wilt Chamberlain Career Statistics: 30.1 PPG, 54 FG%, 22.9 RPG, and 4.4 APG.
The Yeti Lebron fangirl
But he cant win the oscar 😏
magic only played 11 years....ugh..lebron lovers
Andrew Holt no he played 13 full seasons, and 15 seasons in total if you count the years he played in 1996 as a bench player
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LeBron the GOAT
Can’t wait to see what Colin has to say when Lebron lose to the Celtics in the east finals 👌
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And he doesn't have ankle issues. STEPHSEXUALS TRIGGERED 😱
Well magic had to quit bc of his aids so that’s why lebron will pass him in assists
Magic had to quit because he boinked over 1,000 different girls. He had no self-control and no desire to gain self-control. It's his fault he had to quit, not like a sports injury.
Kobe Da best, Lebron should just retire already, he aint gonna catch the mamba
Benjamin Rickards he passed Kobe in 2013
And your wonder why Lebron gets so much hate bc ppl like u who insist Lebron passed Kobe
Kobe isn't top 5.
LEBRON IS A SCORER. Why do we try to act as if he isn’t. Even IF he beats Magic in assists, Magic retired at 31 years old. Lebron has already played way longer and more. Stop this nonsense man.
Because if magic did it in that less of a Time and it takes LeBron longer to beat Magic's record in passing that proves how great magic was and if LeBron gets it that piece how great LeBron is at passing.