The Red and The Blue (1983)
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- The Red and the Blue - Impressions of Two Political Conferences, Autumn 1982
Broadcast by Channel Four on 1/10/1983, The Red and The Blue documents the 1982 conferences of the Conservative and Labour Parties, as seen through the eyes of a number of party delegates.
Copyright of Ken Loach and Channel Four.
Pat Wall, MIlitant MP, at 30:23. Probably the most honest, generous MP we've ever had.
it looks good. i will watch the rest of it later. Good job Ken Loach (as usual)
Very interesting the differences.
I love Tony Benn! Wish there were more like him around today!
He was more responsible than anyone for keeping Labour out of power for over a decade. He wrecked the party. Unless you're a Tory, you'd want him nowhere near the Labour party.
What a fascinating film
I'm not sure if i can watch the tories speaking.
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The music on the adverts are a scream.
Yes, I suppose it are
Fuckin hell i`ve just immediately skipped from 60s Wednesdy plays on youtube to this,it hardly seems different.
Interesting how "conserving the good things in life" always involves thr wholesale destruction of industries, services and institutions which benefit working people.
Any working-class person thinking of supporting the conservative party should watch this first.
The problem that the left has never understood is that with working class conservatives it isn't about economics. Many working class people (including many who vote Labour) are deeply, often repulsively socially conservative and always have been. To that extent, they are natural Tories and always have been.
@@zeddeka The working class tend to be prejudiced not because they were born thick but because of circumstances. Mainly because they are poisoned by terrible schools, the Tory press and institutional racism. Plus they have little time or training to read and educate themselves. But what you will find is that Socialist policies, such as nationalising energy compnies, raising the minimum wage and reducing unemployment, cut across the cultural issues, such as LGBT rights, race relations etc, which workers may not be immediately inclined to support. The figures show that most workers want Socialist policies, and when we implement Socialist policies then we can begin to tackle the social problems which produce racism, homophobia etc.
No wonder the tories ruled the 80's when labour was so split down the line. The roles were reversed in the 90s when the tories split over Europe, and labour managed to stick together
stick together? more like the right wing of the party succeeded in purging the left, leading to hegemonic Blairism. Remind you of anything nowadays?
My opinion is that there are two few parties in Britain, at that time barely two, that had to cater to everybody's taste. Obviously there will be internal strife. Here in Norway, there are many more parties, and thus easier to keep a party working together.
@@TelexToTexel Yes. Both the Labour Party and the Conservatives are very combustible fusions of what should be a number of separate different parties. They are held together only by the election system.
Really good film
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"Profit is not a dirty word". Yes, it's a disgusting word because one person's profit is another person's loss. All wealth is created by the working class and it's the parasicitical capitalists that steal a large part of this wealth (in the form of profits) that's the problem. Capitalism is about money (capital), socialism is about people - the clue is in the name.
You assume that there is a finite amount of wealth to be had in this world. There is not. Wealth is created, not transferred. What you want, as Mrs. Thatcher so often pointed out, is not for the poor to be richer but for everyone else to be poorer. Which would make even the most disadvantaged moreso in the long run. And ironic that Tony Benn who so often decried capitalism was one of the greatest beneficiaries of it. His book sales alone brought him millions.
“Outdated , miss placed, irrelevant to the real needs “