This is for one tick. Meaning for each dragon you have to spam 1 call in front of a rock at least 90 times or more. Its going to get old and grindy real fast.
OK one test I'd like to see is having numerous players around an active crystal all shouting & see if everyone gets a tick? This will test if it really is not campable.
That's a very good point! We'll see if we can get some people to try this with - it's easier said than done cuz so many crystals don't respond (and once they do, it's too late to ask other people to join the server) but it would be very good to find out how this works!
How have they managed to make this more tedious than flying around fighting over rare mushrooms… I wish it were a challenge of your skills, like flying through rings or a cave and doing it without crashing / in a certain amount of time rewards you with a tick. It could utilize your dragons skills like setting targets on fire, or locating a certain amount of cloaked ai SS as the FS. Obviously it would need a cooldown, but at least it improves your skill at the game and rewards you for it. Both iterations have been so mindless, convoluted, and easily camped.
Well, first you have to find a good crystal and then have to be able to defend yourself from other players in order to use it, I'd say that requires skill. Plus this is probably only the first step and there's probably more things you'll need to do.
Perhaps the individual crystals have a cooldown? If another dragon came to a crystal, used it, then left shortly before you attempted the same crystal, the cooldown timer could have still been running when you got there- leading to the crystal temporarily not reacting to you, for a time. To be honest, I have no idea how busy your server was, so you'd have to decide for yourself if there was enough activity for this to be plausible xd (or, if the crystals have a long cooldown? Could they have something like a five minute cooldown, or is it closer to the hour it took elder mushrooms to respawn?) I also wonder if the entire system could be color-based, with each species being able to get a reaction out of only some colors- perhaps the colors that more powerful dragons, e.g. flame stalker and inferno ravager, can use to elder are rarer in an attempt to keep too many op elders from coming into existence? I remember flame stalkers needing more elder mushrooms than the other species to elder, perhaps with that intention in mind. It'd be fun if certain crystals only activated at certain times, or certain weathers- it'd definitely give the system an added layer of complexity xd
Loads of great thoughts here! So regarding a cooldown; I didn't mention it specifically, but a crystal does turn 'off' (lose its color/rumbly noise) once it explodes. So it likely has some sort of cooldown until it can activate again, but others would be able to see that it's not active. A lot of the time when I was testing things out, I was also basically alone on the server - which is actually rather helpful in this case because I know someone else didn't do something with a crystal while I was away ;) You make a really good point that the colors a dragon has access to may have to do with the class of a dragon, like the mushrooms did - that hadn't crossed my mind yet but it would be a good way to make eldering larger/more powerful dragons a bit slower if they have less colors or rarer colors to choose from. Overall great ideas! I definitely need to keep my eyes open regarding time/weather as well with how some crystals sometimes activate and other times don't. And thanks for watching :D
Is it possible that the crystal's colour indicates what weather it needs to be used in? That way yellow could be sunny, blue, rain, purple maybe a thunderstorm, red possibly a sand storm and white fog and so on. I don't know if there are enough different weather types for that to work tho, so maybe the time of day matters too? E.g. yellow for sunny day, green for clear sky with the aurora at night and light and dark blue for rain at day and night.
Coincidentally I just tried a green crystal at night with auroras! When I saw the world turn green I had to fly back and try again, lol. Sadly no response :( Still might be weather and/or time of day related, I haven't focused much on that so far (so much to keep track of). There are a lot of possibilities there for sure.
Good news, because that method is still in the game! Receiving a tick every 12 hours is called passive eldering and will remain in the game on top of this active eldering method.
Thank you for this video; it's very thorough and informative! Does the weather or time of day affect the crystals? Do they have a cool-down timer? Maybe someone used that green crystal you were talking about, and it needed time to warm up again. Do they respond to different calls or a mix of calls, maybe? Does charge shooting them activate them (unlikely since only 2 dragons can charge)? My thoughts: bad idea. Large Clans will camp them, especially in caves, and kill off solo players or players from smaller Clans. Although the passive tick is annoying and the mushrooms were grindy, at least solo players could get elders from them. Here, you need to sit for a full minute screaming at a rock, giving your adult who has some progress a chance at being charge-shot by an SS or bitten to death by an IR or FS. This is especially true of ASDs, which can be one-hit by elder SSs you wouldn't have seen. Even if you get away, by the time you come back, it's changed color and locked you out. Remember even a 99% elder dragon has all the defenses/weaknesses of an adult. Not to spamming mention loud calls is annoying. People can also use their elders or throw away adults to grief servers by finding these statues and activating them then abandoning them, artificially locking them so no one can elder their dragon. A better solution would be to make eldering time-based like growing. 5 hours of game time = 5 hours of elder progress. This forces players to use their dragons and encourages them to play the game. It rewards people for putting their dragons in danger in PvP and it works on PvE. While my SS that has been through hell and back might only have 3.8% elder, someone else's elder SS could have done absolutely nothing but sit in a cave since it was nested in and then log in once every 12 hours.
Thank you for the kind words! I can address some of your questions / concerns: So far I've not paid close enough attention to time of day or weather to know for certain whether or not this plays a role. I'm definitely keeping an eye out for it. Most of the time when I was playing I was alone on the server, which is helpful because I know no one else touched the crystals. When a crystal does explode, it will turn off, so someone else coming by would simply be able to see that the crystal won't work. So far no emotes other than one-calls have worked for me though I'll admit I don't always try all of them on each crystal. For the update, the crystals will be more spread out over the map and there should be more of them too. That will at least make it hard for clans to camp all of them. I don't think it will be easy to prevent the entire server from eldering - though they can certainly make it harder (but maybe that's part of the pvp game). So far I haven't found a way to deactivate a crystal - just change the color, and multiple crystals can be active at the same time. I honestly don't understand the system enough yet to say if it can be easily camped or not. There may be layers to it I'm still unaware of that make camping harder than it seems right now. There do seem to be some risks, but I know the devs are aware of the camping issue with mushrooms so for now I'm holding out hope that they have improved on this with the crystal method. We'll have to see!
@@SyIvanix Thank you for answering my question! That seems odd only the 1-call would work. I really like the fs 3-call; it sounds like laughter. The blitz 5-call is pretty goofy. Just mate-calling the crystal for a minute would be funny and break up the monotony of it! I hope having them that spread out will help. My main concern about camping isn't that one Clan will always be on all crystals at all times (that's impossible), but that they may be on a few and will elder all of their dragons easily, and then just find the others and patrol them, preventing others from eldering their dragons. Even if other Clans could defend against said Clan, a solo player wouldn't be able to defend against multiple people. I don't think they had PvP/solo people in mind while coming up with this idea. However, it doesn't *hurt* to be optimistic, right? The meta will change, and so I guess we'll need to change with it. Maybe the devs will shorten the roar-time or add different calls or recall it altogether soon. Maybe they'll add a debuff to camping the crystals. For example, if you sit by a crystal for too long you'll lose HP and/or get a hit to your speed/damage output/stamina regen/bile regen/some other stat, and on top of all that you start glowing that crystal's color so people can see you. Really only time will tell.
@@VenomQuill What I do know is that the devs are great at listening to the community. Once we fully understand the system and it still creates unintended problems with clans, camping, not being possible solos on pvp etc. I trust that they'll listen and make adjustments as needed!
What im concerned about is how competitive it is going to be. If someone explodes a crystal can another dragon explode it immediattely or do they need to wait? Because if the crystals need time to recharge and cannot be shared then it will be no better than the mushroom method. Solo players will struggle with eldering because clans will kill anyone who comes close to the crystals.
The specifics are still not really clear to me, but I know that camping was a concern for the developers as well so I expect an improvement over mushrooms. What I do know is that after a crystal explodes, it deactivates - can't be used until it turns on again which they seem to just do when they feel like it. There's also a theory/assumption that everyone in the area will get a tick when a crystal explodes. Though I currently don't know what the range for this is. But that could greatly help prevent camping. Multiple crystals can be active at one time and in the live game, there will be more crystals and they'll be more spread out over the map. So clans will likely have a hard time defending all of them
Maybe! We have tried one-calling multiple times at a crystal but sadly no response, any time it did glow it did so right away. Though I still try a few extra calls occasionally, just to be thorough!
possibly bugged. The only ticks that you received in the video were purple. maybe the bug has to do with the changing of colors after the crystal fails or the timer runs out, maybe and if you received a tick from a different color crystal, it "was" purple before it changed color on the outside.
A fair point! But if you watch from 06:25, you'll see I received ticks from a white and green crystal as well. As well as a white and green crystal that I made glow but not explode and (many) purple & magenta crystals that didn't respond to me. If there were bugs, I wouldn't know of course - so it's possible. But considering how early this still is I think it's much more likely for now that we simply don't fully understand the system yet, rather than having run into a ton of bugged crystals already ;)
No release date is set, but during the developer livestream last Friday, Jao said he was hoping for September! Before the update, there'll still be closed combat testing for the blitz and I believe an open test as well.
Hi, welcome! This video was recorded on a version of the test server that wasn't publicly available, as part of the preparations for upcoming update 1.0.1. This dragon is called the Blitz Striker. It'll join the game in update 1.0.1 which is estimated for a release at the end of september! Shortly before then, there will also be an open test which is publicly available where you can try it out 😄
@@madgamester That's correct, the Blitz isn't in game yet! It will be once the 1.0.1 update comes out in likely about a month. Blitz isn't a starter dragon unfortunately, it is a DLC dragon, but you don't need the DLC to play it - you can still be nested in by others and play it completely for free :)
@@madgamester It depends on how you prefer to play and where you're located, honestly! I personally only play PvE but will play DvE once Elementals come out (a playable faction that's natural enemies of the dragons - DvE doesn't allow dragons to fight other dragons but it does allow dragons vs elementals). There's also PvP, of course. Then pick a server that's in/near your region :) Official servers don't have many rules whereas private servers can set their own rules, it's really personal preference which one you want to pick. I recommend trying some and seeing what you like :) Have fun! And look forward to update 1.0.1 - it's gonna be great
Non-existent! :D This dragon is called the Blitz striker and it's an ampithere - a dragon with 1 pair of wings and no legs. On the ground he slithers, kinda like a snake.
Many are waiting for fixes and more content! Once 1.0.1 releases I bet you many will return to try and elder their dragons. There'll also be a new dragon to try out, a new AI, much improved performance (allowing more people to play), combat fixes and more.
@@SyIvanix myea basicly what was promised earlier this year,i dont got any hope devs can actually pull it off since they are known to blatantly lie with impunity...the fact devs lied for months trying to fool people there was a way to elder but the community hasnth figured it out yet.it was a lie to get people to play this mess,even superrhino himself was spreading this lie.how u can defend blatant liars i dont get tbh.
Brilliant video and findings. I can't wait to see the community tackling this
Hello :>
@@firefox575 Hiya Fire Fox
Thanks Luse
This is for one tick. Meaning for each dragon you have to spam 1 call in front of a rock at least 90 times or more. Its going to get old and grindy real fast.
I think anyone in the AOE gets the tick
And that is why you shoukd choose a dragon with a call you like-
OK one test I'd like to see is having numerous players around an active crystal all shouting & see if everyone gets a tick? This will test if it really is not campable.
Yes this! I was coming to the comment section to request the same thing XD
That's a very good point! We'll see if we can get some people to try this with - it's easier said than done cuz so many crystals don't respond (and once they do, it's too late to ask other people to join the server) but it would be very good to find out how this works!
How have they managed to make this more tedious than flying around fighting over rare mushrooms… I wish it were a challenge of your skills, like flying through rings or a cave and doing it without crashing / in a certain amount of time rewards you with a tick. It could utilize your dragons skills like setting targets on fire, or locating a certain amount of cloaked ai SS as the FS. Obviously it would need a cooldown, but at least it improves your skill at the game and rewards you for it. Both iterations have been so mindless, convoluted, and easily camped.
Well, first you have to find a good crystal and then have to be able to defend yourself from other players in order to use it, I'd say that requires skill.
Plus this is probably only the first step and there's probably more things you'll need to do.
Perhaps the individual crystals have a cooldown? If another dragon came to a crystal, used it, then left shortly before you attempted the same crystal, the cooldown timer could have still been running when you got there- leading to the crystal temporarily not reacting to you, for a time. To be honest, I have no idea how busy your server was, so you'd have to decide for yourself if there was enough activity for this to be plausible xd (or, if the crystals have a long cooldown? Could they have something like a five minute cooldown, or is it closer to the hour it took elder mushrooms to respawn?)
I also wonder if the entire system could be color-based, with each species being able to get a reaction out of only some colors- perhaps the colors that more powerful dragons, e.g. flame stalker and inferno ravager, can use to elder are rarer in an attempt to keep too many op elders from coming into existence? I remember flame stalkers needing more elder mushrooms than the other species to elder, perhaps with that intention in mind.
It'd be fun if certain crystals only activated at certain times, or certain weathers- it'd definitely give the system an added layer of complexity xd
Loads of great thoughts here!
So regarding a cooldown; I didn't mention it specifically, but a crystal does turn 'off' (lose its color/rumbly noise) once it explodes. So it likely has some sort of cooldown until it can activate again, but others would be able to see that it's not active. A lot of the time when I was testing things out, I was also basically alone on the server - which is actually rather helpful in this case because I know someone else didn't do something with a crystal while I was away ;)
You make a really good point that the colors a dragon has access to may have to do with the class of a dragon, like the mushrooms did - that hadn't crossed my mind yet but it would be a good way to make eldering larger/more powerful dragons a bit slower if they have less colors or rarer colors to choose from.
Overall great ideas! I definitely need to keep my eyes open regarding time/weather as well with how some crystals sometimes activate and other times don't. And thanks for watching :D
Ooo, thanks for the info!
Is it possible that the crystal's colour indicates what weather it needs to be used in? That way yellow could be sunny, blue, rain, purple maybe a thunderstorm, red possibly a sand storm and white fog and so on. I don't know if there are enough different weather types for that to work tho, so maybe the time of day matters too? E.g. yellow for sunny day, green for clear sky with the aurora at night and light and dark blue for rain at day and night.
Coincidentally I just tried a green crystal at night with auroras! When I saw the world turn green I had to fly back and try again, lol. Sadly no response :( Still might be weather and/or time of day related, I haven't focused much on that so far (so much to keep track of). There are a lot of possibilities there for sure.
Call me pancake needs to hear this!! 0-0
I like the old elder method when all u had to do was log in every 12 hours and get an elder tick. 5:19
Good news, because that method is still in the game! Receiving a tick every 12 hours is called passive eldering and will remain in the game on top of this active eldering method.
@@SyIvanix Ok good. Cause it’s gonna take me some time to figure out those Crystals
Thank you for this video; it's very thorough and informative! Does the weather or time of day affect the crystals? Do they have a cool-down timer? Maybe someone used that green crystal you were talking about, and it needed time to warm up again. Do they respond to different calls or a mix of calls, maybe? Does charge shooting them activate them (unlikely since only 2 dragons can charge)?
My thoughts: bad idea. Large Clans will camp them, especially in caves, and kill off solo players or players from smaller Clans. Although the passive tick is annoying and the mushrooms were grindy, at least solo players could get elders from them. Here, you need to sit for a full minute screaming at a rock, giving your adult who has some progress a chance at being charge-shot by an SS or bitten to death by an IR or FS. This is especially true of ASDs, which can be one-hit by elder SSs you wouldn't have seen. Even if you get away, by the time you come back, it's changed color and locked you out. Remember even a 99% elder dragon has all the defenses/weaknesses of an adult. Not to spamming mention loud calls is annoying.
People can also use their elders or throw away adults to grief servers by finding these statues and activating them then abandoning them, artificially locking them so no one can elder their dragon.
A better solution would be to make eldering time-based like growing. 5 hours of game time = 5 hours of elder progress. This forces players to use their dragons and encourages them to play the game. It rewards people for putting their dragons in danger in PvP and it works on PvE. While my SS that has been through hell and back might only have 3.8% elder, someone else's elder SS could have done absolutely nothing but sit in a cave since it was nested in and then log in once every 12 hours.
Thank you for the kind words! I can address some of your questions / concerns:
So far I've not paid close enough attention to time of day or weather to know for certain whether or not this plays a role. I'm definitely keeping an eye out for it. Most of the time when I was playing I was alone on the server, which is helpful because I know no one else touched the crystals. When a crystal does explode, it will turn off, so someone else coming by would simply be able to see that the crystal won't work. So far no emotes other than one-calls have worked for me though I'll admit I don't always try all of them on each crystal.
For the update, the crystals will be more spread out over the map and there should be more of them too. That will at least make it hard for clans to camp all of them. I don't think it will be easy to prevent the entire server from eldering - though they can certainly make it harder (but maybe that's part of the pvp game). So far I haven't found a way to deactivate a crystal - just change the color, and multiple crystals can be active at the same time.
I honestly don't understand the system enough yet to say if it can be easily camped or not. There may be layers to it I'm still unaware of that make camping harder than it seems right now. There do seem to be some risks, but I know the devs are aware of the camping issue with mushrooms so for now I'm holding out hope that they have improved on this with the crystal method. We'll have to see!
@@SyIvanix Thank you for answering my question! That seems odd only the 1-call would work. I really like the fs 3-call; it sounds like laughter. The blitz 5-call is pretty goofy. Just mate-calling the crystal for a minute would be funny and break up the monotony of it!
I hope having them that spread out will help. My main concern about camping isn't that one Clan will always be on all crystals at all times (that's impossible), but that they may be on a few and will elder all of their dragons easily, and then just find the others and patrol them, preventing others from eldering their dragons. Even if other Clans could defend against said Clan, a solo player wouldn't be able to defend against multiple people. I don't think they had PvP/solo people in mind while coming up with this idea.
However, it doesn't *hurt* to be optimistic, right? The meta will change, and so I guess we'll need to change with it. Maybe the devs will shorten the roar-time or add different calls or recall it altogether soon. Maybe they'll add a debuff to camping the crystals. For example, if you sit by a crystal for too long you'll lose HP and/or get a hit to your speed/damage output/stamina regen/bile regen/some other stat, and on top of all that you start glowing that crystal's color so people can see you. Really only time will tell.
@@VenomQuill What I do know is that the devs are great at listening to the community. Once we fully understand the system and it still creates unintended problems with clans, camping, not being possible solos on pvp etc. I trust that they'll listen and make adjustments as needed!
What im concerned about is how competitive it is going to be. If someone explodes a crystal can another dragon explode it immediattely or do they need to wait? Because if the crystals need time to recharge and cannot be shared then it will be no better than the mushroom method. Solo players will struggle with eldering because clans will kill anyone who comes close to the crystals.
The specifics are still not really clear to me, but I know that camping was a concern for the developers as well so I expect an improvement over mushrooms.
What I do know is that after a crystal explodes, it deactivates - can't be used until it turns on again which they seem to just do when they feel like it. There's also a theory/assumption that everyone in the area will get a tick when a crystal explodes. Though I currently don't know what the range for this is. But that could greatly help prevent camping.
Multiple crystals can be active at one time and in the live game, there will be more crystals and they'll be more spread out over the map. So clans will likely have a hard time defending all of them
I wonder if the crystal depends on ur element like red for flamestalkers purples for blitz and ect
Maybe the different crystals need more calls to work?
Maybe! We have tried one-calling multiple times at a crystal but sadly no response, any time it did glow it did so right away. Though I still try a few extra calls occasionally, just to be thorough!
Here's hoping US1 isn't listening, or my favorite hunting ground will have too much competition soon.
possibly bugged. The only ticks that you received in the video were purple. maybe the bug has to do with the changing of colors after the crystal fails or the timer runs out, maybe and if you received a tick from a different color crystal, it "was" purple before it changed color on the outside.
A fair point! But if you watch from 06:25, you'll see I received ticks from a white and green crystal as well. As well as a white and green crystal that I made glow but not explode and (many) purple & magenta crystals that didn't respond to me.
If there were bugs, I wouldn't know of course - so it's possible. But considering how early this still is I think it's much more likely for now that we simply don't fully understand the system yet, rather than having run into a ton of bugged crystals already ;)
When is the update?
No release date is set, but during the developer livestream last Friday, Jao said he was hoping for September! Before the update, there'll still be closed combat testing for the blitz and I believe an open test as well.
Hi..am new to dod..may i knw ur server? and the name of the dragon😊
Hi, welcome! This video was recorded on a version of the test server that wasn't publicly available, as part of the preparations for upcoming update 1.0.1.
This dragon is called the Blitz Striker. It'll join the game in update 1.0.1 which is estimated for a release at the end of september! Shortly before then, there will also be an open test which is publicly available where you can try it out 😄
@@SyIvanix i tried and I got 2.. or 3 dragons as free and i couldn't find this one😑
@@madgamester That's correct, the Blitz isn't in game yet! It will be once the 1.0.1 update comes out in likely about a month.
Blitz isn't a starter dragon unfortunately, it is a DLC dragon, but you don't need the DLC to play it - you can still be nested in by others and play it completely for free :)
@@SyIvanix i would love to make a series of this game. I play isle and ark. Can u suggest me a good server of dod? Thanku
@@madgamester It depends on how you prefer to play and where you're located, honestly! I personally only play PvE but will play DvE once Elementals come out (a playable faction that's natural enemies of the dragons - DvE doesn't allow dragons to fight other dragons but it does allow dragons vs elementals). There's also PvP, of course. Then pick a server that's in/near your region :)
Official servers don't have many rules whereas private servers can set their own rules, it's really personal preference which one you want to pick. I recommend trying some and seeing what you like :)
Have fun! And look forward to update 1.0.1 - it's gonna be great
I thought it said Eldenring😭
Woops, sorry 😂 Unfortunately I don't know much about elden ring
Where r the dragon leggs?
Non-existent! :D This dragon is called the Blitz striker and it's an ampithere - a dragon with 1 pair of wings and no legs. On the ground he slithers, kinda like a snake.
ah yes screaming at rocks to elder... how inspiring...
This would be good if the game had actual players...game is utterly dead and boring.
Many are waiting for fixes and more content! Once 1.0.1 releases I bet you many will return to try and elder their dragons. There'll also be a new dragon to try out, a new AI, much improved performance (allowing more people to play), combat fixes and more.
@@SyIvanix myea basicly what was promised earlier this year,i dont got any hope devs can actually pull it off since they are known to blatantly lie with impunity...the fact devs lied for months trying to fool people there was a way to elder but the community hasnth figured it out yet.it was a lie to get people to play this mess,even superrhino himself was spreading this lie.how u can defend blatant liars i dont get tbh.