I tell you a Nifty little trick a plumber showed me years and years ago. It's taking old t-shirt and strip it into like half inch wide strips. Got to be a cotton t-shirt. And make sure the strips are about foot and a half long. Soak through strips in water and bring them out and around your fitting on the pump to keep it from overheating the Teflon and overheating anything inside the pump that might be rubber. Just taking wrap one of those just around the fitting not over where your soldering but around the fitting. Works like a champ man! If you got something you don't want to damage like a gauge or a valve that's got rubber seats in it. Like your valve up there you could have wrapped it with one of them and just that little bit of water will dissipate the heat from it and keep it from destroying anything inside of it. Great job mustie1. I've solder 3 inch copper 300 PSI for the first time about 5 years ago in our church. Scared the crap out of me.
I watched this video last because I didn't think it would help. That is until I saw the replacement pump from Gould. I have a Gould that lost it's prime. There is no other video that shows how to prime a Gould Jet Pump. As a single mom of 3 and the thought of getting someone out to fix it was my very last option. It did take me a few times to prime but I have running water again. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much. My first time replacing well pump. Yesterday our area got dumped on with 30+ inches of snow. All the plumbers were busy helping to restore heating, so long story short your video was a real saver for us. Thank you again.
thanks for posting this....you showed a "real" pump change out like what many of us will experience. So many video show things in a "best case" scenario, but you overcame a couple of set backs like your pipes not lining up. Thanks, real useful.
Good for you! I bought Goulds J5 today. i figured theres a few people out there like me who wanted to diy intall their own pumps..Im installing mine tomorrow. thanx for the video.
Once again, thanks for the video. Shortly after you posted this I installed a Shallow Well pump/pressure tank for a sprinkler system. Went really well, had the hard black hoses as well. I heated them up with the heat gun and they slipped right on. Money!
Wish my pump installs had gone that smoothly. The best ones I had were for the in well pumps. My in-house deep well pump lost it's prime and I had to prime again and again before it finally was able to pick it up from the well again. When you have no other water source, that is lots of trips back and forth to the spring with gallon jugs... Glad yours went smoothly. A very nice, clean installation.
So glad I found this video. Mine was bit easier to hook up the tubes, as my tubes are coming up from what is like a stone well capped off. I do what I can for myself. Thank you!!!!
Nice job D!!! I've had a lot of issues with my well system this summer but I had to replace a deep well pump (210 feet) which I had to have professionally changed. That looks like a better set-up because you can get at the pump easier.
Ya am a plumber these are Jet pumps they work fine but are a pain to prime at times. A union between pump and shutoff would be more serviceable .Good job Darren.
Shame about the old pump, sure lasted a while for you! New one probably won't last so long, but nothing is made as well anymore. Doing things like that yourself ought to be the way to go for all of us, but not everyone is as handy. Great job I wish I could solder as nice! I did a shower balance valve a few years ago, it about drove me nuts first one leg then another then another would leak finally got it all sealed up and realized the valve was a bit crooked and said $%$# IT! Still works fine.
Nice job on the injector pump replacement, I always double clamp my poly hose fittings with the gear mechanisms facing opposite each other and 180 degrees apart. Cheap insurance specially when burying the poly hose.
Thanks for the video. The well company in my area has been dicking around with my well on and off for years. I'm pretty sure they're just doing half assed job's to make sure we have to call them back. My pump just seized after them "re-doing" the well last year, and they're trying to convince me to drill an entire new well. Screw that, I'll just replace the pump! Thanks
Most cases its the pressure switch. Check it first. If you tweek the pressure settings see if the switch will shut pump off at a little lower pressure. Sometimes the screws will back out with temp changes. Ive had that problem and fixed a family members with a new pressure switch . Thanks for sharing
For most pressure switches, the larger screw is for adjusting the cut-on pressure and the smaller is for the cut-off. You want generally a 20 psi. differential from cut-on to cut-off (depending on your tank) for optimum pump performance. You got a good deal on a good pump, Goulds and/or Myers are basically the preferred pumps of professionals.
mustie1, Thank You very much for the excellent video. Maybe the next break down, I'll switch to copper, but probably not. Depends on money and enthusiasm and time.
Mustie1 did not install a deep well jet pump, rather he installed a convertible jet pump which can be used for either a swallow well jet system or a deep well system. In a shallow well system it would have an ejector mounted to the end of it and then attach via a single pipe out to the well. In a deep well system the pump would attach as shown within the video, but would have a back pressure regulator, such as can be seen on the old pump removed, which was not installed with the new pump. (It's the threaded rod with lock nut on the old pump.) The back pressure regulator regulates how much water goes back down the well to power the jet, which is what makes a deep well pump work. Mustie1 must have a fairly high water table for his 100' well or his 3/4 copper piping to his tank provided just enough back pressure to allow his pump to power the jet down the well. For this Goulds pump one would use either an AV1 or AV22 regulator. Note: In almost all cases when a jet pump will not build over 30lbs pressure it's not the pump which is bad, rather it's a plugged ejector, which is either on the end of the pump in a shallow well jet, or down the well with a deep well jet pump. Exceeding care should be exercised in replacing such a pump so as to not get ANY flecks of rust or mineral scale down the well, as that can plug the jet, requiring the jet to be pulled from the well to be cleared. Over 90% of deep well pumps bought by homeowners for self installation get returned, because it wasn't the pump which was the problem in the first place. The alternative is to call a well driller, not a plumber. A good plumber will attempt to install a new pump. A great plumber will tell you you need a well driller.
When I lived in PA.we had a water well.89 feet deep submersible pump,240 volt.Bad storm one night lighting hit the pole where power came fried the pump.Strange thing is the fuse in the power line did not blow!!.Not too difficult to replace the pump,just had to pull the darn thing up out of the well,put on the new pump,reconnect the wiring turn every thing back on.Luckily the water well was outside hidden in a small pump house,so had plenty of room to work.
I have a gould jet pump 20yrs old can't get it to pump, I'll try replacing per your install for reference, I wish I had the two hose lines like you, mine is vertical hard pipe.
Tell me about! Crooked along with half the walls and entryway tile work that was done waaaay back before I owned it! Whatya gonna do? It's an old house! LOL Great tutorial Bud, hope it helps somrone with theirs!
I just bought one of these goulds deep well pumps for my 85ft deep water well. Do you know or remember installing some kind of kit at the end of the pvc pipes that goes into the water well? Thanks for the video and any feedback appreciated.
We finally got city water about fifteen years ago. I sure don't miss our pump/tank/cistern. Of course, our water bill just went up. Ya just can't win sometimes. Nice work on the repair. I might have done a few things differently -- few more "bells & whistles" here & there... but at the end of the day, you have water. That's all that matters. Nice fix with the heat gun. I didn't think that was gonna work.
Smashing job mate :-), you allways underestimate your skill, it works and that soldering looks bloody spot on :-) :-) Do you have to filter the water from the well for drinking or is it not used for that purpose ? The old pump looked knackered, but the motor still works so you might find a use for it :-)
Nice work. The video was missing the conclusion to the 2 black input/output pipes though. Did the heat do the trick to give it enough flex? I replaced my pump 6-7 years ago and had a major struggle getting that black hose over the nipples. Any tips with that?
Great job brother ! You can't beat Gould pumps, they run and run and run. Glad you were successful with the replacement :) 2 thumbs up on this one sir !
While You're pushing the black hose, m ph, wiggle it slightly and it has worked for me many times. My system uses flex hose and the black comes straight up from the water inside a 5 3/4 inside dia white pipe. I still have to push and wiggle the gray ninety degree turn to get the hose and pipe each on all the way. If You lube it with water, that should be sufficient.
Did you go with 1/2 or 3/4 hp? I am in a similar situation and trying to decide what one to go with. Pros and Cons for each. Great video, this gives me more confidence to do the work myself.
you primed the easy way, usually not so lucky or have a footer valve that leaks slow without pressure holding it ;) tank pumped up too fast and was out of air, which you said you was going to check/add, valve cores/seals tend to leak and if you don't check them often enough it overextends the bladder and kerpoof.
I didn't take the forecast as seriously as I should have, as a consequence the very old indoor (garage) pump froze and now it's leaking badly from the "seal," and I guess the switch chatter is a result of pressure drop. The gauge reads 10 psi. Looks like new pumps come with pressure switches low and attached. Did your pump come with fittings? Appreciate the demo, we're going to try DIY.
my well pump stopped working on Sunday, I bought a Gould Pound as per the plumber. hopefully will have water by friday. How long did it take you to remove and change the pump?
Install went well until I turned the water off. The pump is cycling on and off constantly. I have great pressure and as long as I am using the water (have it running) it works great. Any ideas?
This is the same set up as mine, but i don't have the valve between the tank and the pump, so when i try to put the 28 psi in the tank, it goes straight to the pump and shoots out, any ideas? This is the first set up i've seen with a valve in between, but it seemed to work,
My wife and I have grown up on city sewer and city water. SO, no well's or septic. We are bidding on a house in a country town with both. The well pump is at least 17 years old. Can you tell me if that is near it's end of life?. I called a well guy and he didn't really give me an answer but said if it failed to call him. He said the price to replace the pump would be around $2500. Is this crazy? or normal?. Can I do this myself, IE buy a pump and have someone who knows basic plumbing skills replace it?. AND, should I replace it now or just wait for it to fail at some point?. Thank you!!!.
How long has the jet ejector at the bottom of your well lasted? I am in the process of putting a deep jet well pump in and I'm still trying to work out some maintenance related concerns.
I picked up a good used well pump it was Gould old one was too brought it down and realized old one one had the one suction at back and one on top that went to holding tank but used one has 2 suctions what can I do? Can I block off one and just use the other?
jase davids no they make adaptors for certain pumps. look at the website. i believe gould has a pump that will do shallow and deep well . you need to swap the head to provide the correcr inlet though
You're supposed to use a dry rag to get the excess solder away and get a nice looking seam. If you use a wet rag you are shocking the solder joint which makes a weaker joint.
Great job on editing videos. I am trying to find some kind of video editing program or something that will run. That's for Polish use. I don't seem like any Polacks make any software. At least not for video editing. You know the dummy books that they sell. Those are even pull up proof :-)
Pretty common, at least in the eastern part of the US, even for densely packed homes, to still use well water. Especially when your not that far off from sea level and its typically wet. Hence why stuff rusts and theres mud everywhere for a few months of the year haha. I'm sure it'd be a hell of a job to convince a city to setup a water treatment plant and bury pipe through hilly landscape just for something you already pump outta the ground for merely the cost of electricity and sanitation.
excellent video until you said "trigger it by hand". For anyone watching this video NEVER touch the contacts with your bare hands! You can use the plastic cap to move the contacts or a wood stick etc. Remember Safety first!
I tell you a Nifty little trick a plumber showed me years and years ago. It's taking old t-shirt and strip it into like half inch wide strips. Got to be a cotton t-shirt. And make sure the strips are about foot and a half long. Soak through strips in water and bring them out and around your fitting on the pump to keep it from overheating the Teflon and overheating anything inside the pump that might be rubber. Just taking wrap one of those just around the fitting not over where your soldering but around the fitting. Works like a champ man! If you got something you don't want to damage like a gauge or a valve that's got rubber seats in it. Like your valve up there you could have wrapped it with one of them and just that little bit of water will dissipate the heat from it and keep it from destroying anything inside of it. Great job mustie1. I've solder 3 inch copper 300 PSI for the first time about 5 years ago in our church. Scared the crap out of me.
I watched this video last because I didn't think it would help. That is until I saw the replacement pump from Gould. I have a Gould that lost it's prime. There is no other video that shows how to prime a Gould Jet Pump. As a single mom of 3 and the thought of getting someone out to fix it was my very last option. It did take me a few times to prime but I have running water again. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!
glad l could help
Thank you so much. My first time replacing well pump. Yesterday our area got dumped on with 30+ inches of snow. All the plumbers were busy helping to restore heating, so long story short your video was a real saver for us. Thank you again.
thanks for posting this....you showed a "real" pump change out like what many of us will experience. So many video show things in a "best case" scenario, but you overcame a couple of set backs like your pipes not lining up. Thanks, real useful.
thanks for watchin
I watched this when it came out 7 years ago and today it has come to help me.
Thank your for all the random “fix it” videos. IT WAS A HUGE HELP!!!
Good for you! I bought Goulds J5 today. i figured theres a few people out there like me who wanted to diy intall their own pumps..Im installing mine tomorrow. thanx for the video.
Once again, thanks for the video. Shortly after you posted this I installed a Shallow Well pump/pressure tank for a sprinkler system. Went really well, had the hard black hoses as well. I heated them up with the heat gun and they slipped right on. Money!
Wish my pump installs had gone that smoothly. The best ones I had were for the in well pumps. My in-house deep well pump lost it's prime and I had to prime again and again before it finally was able to pick it up from the well again. When you have no other water source, that is lots of trips back and forth to the spring with gallon jugs...
Glad yours went smoothly. A very nice, clean installation.
So glad I found this video. Mine was bit easier to hook up the tubes, as my tubes are coming up from what is like a stone well capped off. I do what I can for myself. Thank you!!!!
Nice job D!!! I've had a lot of issues with my well system this summer but I had to replace a deep well pump (210 feet) which I had to have professionally changed. That looks like a better set-up because you can get at the pump easier.
Nice and clear, straight forward. Should now be able to go on with my project. Thx
Ya am a plumber these are Jet pumps they work fine but are a pain to prime at times. A union between pump and shutoff would be more serviceable .Good job Darren.
Shame about the old pump, sure lasted a while for you! New one probably won't last so long, but nothing is made as well anymore. Doing things like that yourself ought to be the way to go for all of us, but not everyone is as handy. Great job I wish I could solder as nice! I did a shower balance valve a few years ago, it about drove me nuts first one leg then another then another would leak finally got it all sealed up and realized the valve was a bit crooked and said $%$# IT! Still works fine.
Nice job on the injector pump replacement, I always double clamp my poly hose fittings with the gear mechanisms facing opposite each other and 180 degrees apart. Cheap insurance specially when burying the poly hose.
Very helpful video. Thanks for taking the time to create it!
Thanks for the video. The well company in my area has been dicking around with my well on and off for years. I'm pretty sure they're just doing half assed job's to make sure we have to call them back. My pump just seized after them "re-doing" the well last year, and they're trying to convince me to drill an entire new well. Screw that, I'll just replace the pump! Thanks
HAHA, same thing as a cryo practor!!! they keep it some what fix/OK, it's so you have to going back to them....
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Thank you very much 4 your video. Very informative & easy to follow; great job!! : )
Most cases its the pressure switch. Check it first. If you tweek the pressure settings see if the switch will shut pump off at a little lower pressure. Sometimes the screws will back out with temp changes.
Ive had that problem and fixed a family members with a new pressure switch .
Thanks for sharing
For most pressure switches, the larger screw is for adjusting the cut-on pressure and the smaller is for the cut-off. You want generally a 20 psi. differential from cut-on to cut-off (depending on your tank) for optimum pump performance. You got a good deal on a good pump, Goulds and/or Myers are basically the preferred pumps of professionals.
mustie1, Thank You very much for the excellent video. Maybe the next break down, I'll switch to copper, but probably not. Depends on money and enthusiasm and time.
Mustie1 did not install a deep well jet pump, rather he installed a convertible jet pump which can be used for either a swallow well jet system or a deep well system. In a shallow well system it would have an ejector mounted to the end of it and then attach via a single pipe out to the well. In a deep well system the pump would attach as shown within the video, but would have a back pressure regulator, such as can be seen on the old pump removed, which was not installed with the new pump. (It's the threaded rod with lock nut on the old pump.) The back pressure regulator regulates how much water goes back down the well to power the jet, which is what makes a deep well pump work. Mustie1 must have a fairly high water table for his 100' well or his 3/4 copper piping to his tank provided just enough back pressure to allow his pump to power the jet down the well. For this Goulds pump one would use either an AV1 or AV22 regulator.
Note: In almost all cases when a jet pump will not build over 30lbs pressure it's not the pump which is bad, rather it's a plugged ejector, which is either on the end of the pump in a shallow well jet, or down the well with a deep well jet pump. Exceeding care should be exercised in replacing such a pump so as to not get ANY flecks of rust or mineral scale down the well, as that can plug the jet, requiring the jet to be pulled from the well to be cleared. Over 90% of deep well pumps bought by homeowners for self installation get returned, because it wasn't the pump which was the problem in the first place.
The alternative is to call a well driller, not a plumber. A good plumber will attempt to install a new pump. A great plumber will tell you you need a well driller.
Very nice video and turned out very nice. Glad it worked out for you so well.
You did a pretty good job there mustie. Great video mate
When I lived in PA.we had a water well.89 feet deep submersible pump,240 volt.Bad storm one night lighting hit the pole where power came fried the pump.Strange thing is the fuse in the power line did not blow!!.Not too difficult to replace the pump,just had to pull the darn thing up out of the well,put on the new pump,reconnect the wiring turn every thing back on.Luckily the water well was outside hidden in a small pump house,so had plenty of room to work.
glad i have city water.worked on my pumps all the time. dont miss them a bit.never miss the water till the well runs dry.
Thanks man. You really helped me out!
I have a gould jet pump 20yrs old can't get it to pump, I'll try replacing per your install for reference, I wish I had the two hose lines like you, mine is vertical hard pipe.
this video is a great help! THANK YOU!!!
Tell me about! Crooked along with half the walls and entryway tile work that was done waaaay back before I owned it! Whatya gonna do? It's an old house! LOL Great tutorial Bud, hope it helps somrone with theirs!
Great vid.much needed!
I just bought one of these goulds deep well pumps for my 85ft deep water well. Do you know or remember installing some kind of kit at the end of the pvc pipes that goes into the water well? Thanks for the video and any feedback appreciated.
Good job on the repair and the editing
Very informative thank you !
great video where did you buy that pump and what is the brand name
We finally got city water about fifteen years ago. I sure don't miss our pump/tank/cistern. Of course, our water bill just went up. Ya just can't win sometimes.
Nice work on the repair. I might have done a few things differently -- few more "bells & whistles" here & there... but at the end of the day, you have water. That's all that matters.
Nice fix with the heat gun. I didn't think that was gonna work.
congrats on the editing
A man of many parts.
You should check out the "cycle stop valve" out of Lubbock TX.
Great video !!
Smashing job mate :-), you allways underestimate your skill, it works and that soldering looks bloody spot on :-) :-)
Do you have to filter the water from the well for drinking or is it not used for that purpose ?
The old pump looked knackered, but the motor still works so you might find a use for it :-)
Nice work. The video was missing the conclusion to the 2 black input/output pipes though. Did the heat do the trick to give it enough flex? I replaced my pump 6-7 years ago and had a major struggle getting that black hose over the nipples. Any tips with that?
Great job brother !
You can't beat Gould pumps, they run and run and run.
Glad you were successful with the replacement :)
2 thumbs up on this one sir !
While You're pushing the black hose, m ph, wiggle it slightly and it has worked for me many times. My system uses flex hose and the black comes straight up from the water inside a 5 3/4 inside dia white pipe. I still have to push and wiggle the gray ninety degree turn to get the hose and pipe each on all the way. If You lube it with water, that should be sufficient.
In Canada we call that style jet pumps. Returns a portion of the water back to foot valve to help pull water up to house.
David Okanagan called that here, too. I used to work at a place that sells them.
Very cool, made it look easy.........tony
Did you go with 1/2 or 3/4 hp?
I am in a similar situation and trying to decide what one to go with. Pros and Cons for each.
Great video, this gives me more confidence to do the work myself.
Just replace with that was already there. I just seen that this was a comment made 4 months ago. Hope it all worked out for you.
you primed the easy way, usually not so lucky or have a footer valve that leaks slow without pressure holding it ;)
tank pumped up too fast and was out of air, which you said you was going to check/add, valve cores/seals tend to leak and if you don't check them often enough it overextends the bladder and kerpoof.
l had a 5 gal pail ready but this worked out much easyer
Hey, where do you put the fuel in for that VW pump?
thank you sir
I didn't take the forecast as seriously as I should have, as a consequence the very old indoor (garage) pump froze and now it's leaking badly from the "seal," and I guess the switch chatter is a result of pressure drop. The gauge reads 10 psi.
Looks like new pumps come with pressure switches low and attached. Did your pump come with fittings?
Appreciate the demo, we're going to try DIY.
you must have good water for no treatment or filters.
also nice neat job.
thanks
nice, i just did one in a shop that i work at and it was a big pump
Nice job !!
my well pump stopped working on Sunday, I bought a Gould Pound as per the plumber. hopefully will have water by friday.
How long did it take you to remove and change the pump?
2 hrs if that
Nice job.
thank you for this
Nice work
Is there a foot valve on the bottom of the suction pipe?
Looks like the video editing training was a winner.
Was the pump originally installed like that or was it in the ground?
Good job.
Install went well until I turned the water off. The pump is cycling on and off constantly. I have great pressure and as long as I am using the water (have it running) it works great. Any ideas?
This is the same set up as mine, but i don't have the valve between the tank and the pump, so when i try to put the 28 psi in the tank, it goes straight to the pump and shoots out, any ideas? This is the first set up i've seen with a valve in between, but it seemed to work,
My wife and I have grown up on city sewer and city water. SO, no well's or septic. We are bidding on a house in a country town with both. The well pump is at least 17 years old. Can you tell me if that is near it's end of life?. I called a well guy and he didn't really give me an answer but said if it failed to call him. He said the price to replace the pump would be around $2500. Is this crazy? or normal?. Can I do this myself, IE buy a pump and have someone who knows basic plumbing skills replace it?. AND, should I replace it now or just wait for it to fail at some point?. Thank you!!!.
thanks
even after your waters down, we still go and try to use it, its like having the power out and still flippin the switch when you walk in the room,,
How long has the jet ejector at the bottom of your well lasted? I am in the process of putting a deep jet well pump in and I'm still trying to work out some maintenance related concerns.
never had an issue, and l have been here 19 years,,
+TheLoner801 my injector has been down the well for 35 years
that would be a good idea,
lmbo!! Have a good one! Rog
Thanks!
thats the good part about editing,
Did you try a new pressure switch first? Dont throw that pump away,it may be fixable.
Did you cap off one of your line
nice job. you made short work of that.
A fine job D and not one plumber's butt crack!! Rog
thank
I picked up a good used well pump it was Gould old one was too brought it down and realized old one one had the one suction at back and one on top that went to holding tank but used one has 2 suctions what can I do? Can I block off one and just use the other?
jase davids no they make adaptors for certain pumps. look at the website. i believe gould has a pump that will do shallow and deep well . you need to swap the head to provide the correcr inlet though
Should a pump like that make an ongoing noise while water is running? It's a grinding noise & I thought they should hummm.
Before it cracked from the last hard freeze mine sounded the same.
What is the tubing between the two pipes coming from the wall? I have the water splashing out of it. Anyone knows?
Didn’t you have to prime the well line also?
You're supposed to use a dry rag to get the excess solder away and get a nice looking seam. If you use a wet rag you are shocking the solder joint which makes a weaker joint.
damp not wet
we have a whole house filter and a water softener,
and l needed it
good thing it wasent in the winter,,
Great job on editing videos. I am trying to find some kind of video editing program or something that will run. That's for Polish use. I don't seem like any Polacks make any software. At least not for video editing. You know the dummy books that they sell. Those are even pull up proof :-)
me too
same way
the switch was fine, the pump could no longer produce enough pressure,
Wow it looks like you live in the city there. You wouldn't be on city water?
Pretty common, at least in the eastern part of the US, even for densely packed homes, to still use well water. Especially when your not that far off from sea level and its typically wet. Hence why stuff rusts and theres mud everywhere for a few months of the year haha. I'm sure it'd be a hell of a job to convince a city to setup a water treatment plant and bury pipe through hilly landscape just for something you already pump outta the ground for merely the cost of electricity and sanitation.
this was a small one,, half ton,,
the valve is straight its the shower is crooked,,
Like
right, the one in the well is quiet but when it fails, it sucks
It look like you had two line that go to the well with your First pump but with the second pump it look like only one line.
broken ones
Expensive
excellent video until you said "trigger it by hand". For anyone watching this video NEVER touch the contacts with your bare hands! You can use the plastic cap to move the contacts or a wood stick etc. Remember Safety first!
thats the pump, the pump was $390
there isent a streight line in this house too