Top 10 Horrifying Facts about the ROMAN LEGIONS
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10. Their Military Training
9. Discipline through fear
8. The Decimation
7. Weapons and Armor
6. Battle Tactics and Formations
5. Sea Battles Fought on “Land”
4. Bellum Gallicum
3. Crucifixions
2. The Praetorian Guard
1. Making and Breaking the Empire
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But apart from the sanitation, the medicines, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
The little wascal has spiwit!
These are the Knights who say ni!
Yes!!!
Brought peace? :)
"Brought peace"....hahaha, such a fun movie...:)
I dont think being " cowardly " or falling asleep during guard duty can be called minor offenses. Falling asleep could mean half of your army being butchered before the other half even know what's going on
That's why punitive measures were necessary. Decimation? Discipline by fear but made the legions a powerhouse...plain & simple!
@Preston Whisenant A typical Roman guard detail was comprised of 16 soldiers. Legions would post 20 guard details around their position, rotating them out for fresh details every four hours. No excuse for falling asleep.
Fell asleep did ya?
Biden fell asleep on our Americans stuck behind enemy lines in Afghanistan.
It is, quite rightly, a very serious offence in any army.
I was totally horrified after learning that Roman soldiers protected themselves with shields.
You should be horrified- they were an invading army.
@@ianmarsden8568 and?
@@MrKert86 shields are cool
@@MrKert86 no..NOT THE SHIELDS! ahhhhhh
@@ianmarsden8568 THE ROMAN EMPIRE CIVILIZED the barbarians!!!!
Note to other former and current 11Bs: their Infantry did those daily19 miles in SANDALS. A platoon sergeant I had was almost obsessed with them. He talked about them A LOT.
The Roman Sandal was not like our modern one, they were laced to be tightly fit & somewhat easy on the foot, especially considering Italy's 100*F summers.
Caligae were only used in hot climate. They had closed boots for the cold.
Also... Their boots really resemble combat boots more than modern sandals. Basically it's an open top jack boot.
think about it 19 miles everyday
..this is obviously bull crap
@@aronbrook2316 Not so. This was referring to the Roman Mile, a distance of 1,000 paces. It is very much shorter than an English mile. Also note that a pace was shorter than ours. A typical Roman male was 5' to 5' 5". One of the junior officers of any Roman army formation would determine march distance by counting out the number of paces marched. As a result of all this, a typical Roman legion was expected to be capable of marching 20 miles (Roman) per day. This would be done typically over roads which Rome had made earlier and graveled and paved.
Distances through terrain with no roads or poorer road quality would be slower. But it would still be immensely faster than what the infantry of any other nation could do. For example, Julius Caesar was able to move an entire army out of northern Italy, across the Alps, through the Cevennes mountains in France to central France near where Paris now is in little over four weeks during the beginning of the great Gallic revolt under Vercingetorix n 52 BC.
@@colinhunt4057 is correct. You're looking at a maximum of about 35km in a day, forced march, even in modern times. Probably more than 40km has not been achieved except under the most exceptional circumstances, since that equates to 16 hours at 2.5km / h, in a day, bearing in mind rough terrain (which is most terrain). Probably only possible on paved roads.
The shields were quite clever. They were made from several layers of really thin wood, which was criss-crossed, so the grains would cross. This meant that even when a weapon could penetrate one layer, then get stopped by the second, without compromising the entire structure of the shield
So... Plywood?
Sounds heavy af.
@@huntclanhunt9697 Similar. They didn't have the technology nor the glues to make something like modern plywood. But then, a lot of modern plywood is rubbish using a thick central core of filler with very thin skins of veneer. The filler's only useful purpose is to keep the veneer layers apart. If you want to see something strong made of layers of wood set at angles, look at the British Royal Navy Brave Class torpedo boats. Their layered timber hulls were very strong. The bows could withstand 3 tons per square inch.
The Romans knew how to glue things together..
I think you will find he said 19 mile
I'm sorry, I'm not horrified, by the fact that the soldiers used shields, for example
nope no horror..but its rather boring...and made me soooo sleeeepy.......snoring...snoring...
The roman shield wall was weak
TheWolfPaladin more like smart. No one goes to war wanting to doe. So why should you when you can crush your enemies?
Yeah, many Gauls probably felt the same way. Did you shut your ears at that point?
The commentator continued about strategy.
In the other end of the spectrum is to scorn the enemy. To underestimate them as cowards and poor soldiers
with their big shields, realizing too late that they were a part of a greater machine that crushed brave but wreckless warriors battle by battle, over and over again.
I can't say the Gauls scorned the enemy to the extreme, but at least they couldn't find a solution to the Roman strategies and tactics.
Lord Gargamel they were mostly black
Brought peace? Yes. only during the times of the Roman Empire could you travel from France to Egypt and not worry much about being attacked by robbers or pirates.
Ramen Empire, lol
The Romans weren’t pirates?
@@huncheaux5828 No. Pirates are independent operators. Government-sponsored "pirates" are called "privateers!"
Ĺp
@@williamcummings948 ahhhhh bougie pirates… got it
I’m sorry, but what’s “horrifying” about their equipment or the way that they divide their units? The title is too hyperbolic and is misleading.
:gg;h:+0
Well it's more horrifying for Rome's enemies to be honest, knowing that an enemy army has superior technology and tactics will surely lower morale.
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About par for these timewaster sensational videos.
You dont think The Decimation is slightly horrific?
Nice video.
But Rome didn't collapsed primarily because of military. Internal struggle,civilian and economic crisis is what brought it down eventually.
And the Crusaders....mostly the Crusaders. Damn Venetians!
Mr. mistery
It was beaten by the Crusaders in the 1200's, not the 1400's. Then there was an Imperial interregnum for 40 years or so. They did eventually take back Constantinople but the Empire was already pretty much dead by that point and the Turks put the final nail in the coffin.
Actually, it is more complex than that. The "hordes of homeless barbarians who were running from the Huns" and "swept through their lands" came during the 3rd century. It was a major crisis but finally, the Roman get out of it and another period of peace began to last 3 quarters of a century.
According to modern historiography, the sack of Rome was only important in its psychological consequences but changed nothing. And it was a Roman army (of Wisigoths) who did it. The death of the last emeror of Rome in 476 is a comlete non evennement. The barbarian kingdoms saw themselves as Roman and pledged allegeance to the Roman Empire. Culturally, they where very romanised and the population they ruled where totally romans. What we used to call high-middle ages is now called late antiquity for that reason.
Sure! But since the Punic war, Rome had been a military state. There is not one evenement in Roman history that is not closely linked with the state of the military. The military is not the direct cause of the collapse (there are no direct causes but a series of very complex evenments leading to this), but it is for sure the first of many elements to examine if you want to understand the events.
And old images and school-teaching tend to show the demize of the Roman Empire as a single collapse. Nowadays, we know it is a long process of transformation lasting 3 or 4 centuries and begining in the 3rd century.
The death of Romanus Augustus in 476 is indeed a complete non-event although it has been considered the end of the Roman Empire and the beginning of the Middle Ages for centuries till modern historiography shows us it is not the case.
marvelfannumber1 yeah, sorry misremembered.
Totally misleading title. These are just general facts.
Most of them false...
So you don't find crucifiction, constant war, "working" for the military 24/7, decimation, slaying thousands of enemies, internal military autocracy (total power of the military in state affairs) and the army made up mostly of conquered enemies (at the end of Rome) horrifying? Then what exactly would you find horrifying? Some fictional horror movie about aliens or ghosts?
Nice 21st century snowflake perception of Ancient Rome.
fake past news
No, this isn't so bad. Especially since most of them are wrong.
They trained their military... how horrifying!!!
I know right
I don’t think the decimation is part of the training…
And 90 miles in 5 hours?! That’s 18 mph… it was 20.. and once a month they did 25
@@Sweet_T4u 19
0:13 After the sack of Rome by the Gauls, the Romans did reorganise thier army, but not in this fashion. At the time they abandoned the traditional hoplite phalanx formation that they learned from the Greeks in favor of the manipular system, much more tactically flexible. But the legion still remained essentially a citizen militia. What is described is the Marian legion system, fully implemented centuries later by Gaius Marius. These soldiers were indeed a professional standing army - arguably the first of it's kind - conscripted for years of service.
1:20 Tacitus writes about a nameless centurion nicknamed by his men "Cedo Alteram" roughly meaning "get me another", on account of his habit of breaking his vine stick over his soldiers backs. Surprisingly enough, his soldiers ended up murdering him and revolting.
lmao can only push ppl so far
Who disciplined the Centurion? An officer once struck my Ftaher...WW2...My Father had the right to bring charges to a tribunal and the Officer was sanctioned.
@@buddhastaxi666 Corporal punishment in one form or another was the norm in almost all militaries roughly into the late 19th century, actually. Flogging or beating with sticks was the most common, number of lashes depending on severity of the crime. Western armies had mostly done away with it by the early 20th century, at least officially...
In theory, the centurion would be answerable to the first centurion of his legion, the "First Spear" (Primus Pilus), to the camp prefect (Praefectus Castrorum) or the legion commander himself (Legatus Legionis).
Interesting video, partially misleading title. Romans wore armor, how horrifying
Amiir White lets not forget what they often fought against, men in cloth was the common soldier at the time of the expansion of rome
That is what Subermallis is for. Wear something under to save your skin.
Legio XXI Rapax
Sorry about that.
Legio XXI Rapax
Why RAPAX? Why not I ADIUTRIX?
While the ADIUTRIX can be traced back to the early days of the Republic. The legion's name was "LEGIO I ITALICA".
Hard work, discipline, masculinity, and honor..........how horrifying.
I'm trembling in terror
A well presented series of facts but we seem to disagree on the meaning of "horrifying." There was certainly harsh discipline but as that was the societal norm of the time, I cannot file it under "horrifying."
Neither can I, remember it was a long time ago,I find more horrifying things like the the BBC and modern MSM🤣
"They had armor and shields" also not too horrifying.
"Clickbait" is the magical word here, I guess.
He got the training bit wrong, and also the idea of them being professional during the era of the Hastati/Principes/Triarii. They were levies until the Marian Reforms professionalized them.
Normally when i see such videos i always assume it as horrifying but from OUR perspective, while keeping in mind that some of those things there probably normal during the time.
You forgot to mention how asterix fell in the cauldron of strength brew and finished off the Romans in Gaul. Really important historical facts left out.
Actually it was Obelix the big guy who fell in the cauldron
Nice clickbait...they had armor and weapons...wow
Jor2- And they trained themselves into being the crack army of their time period. Oh The HORROR!
Too Spoopy had a heart attack and died, had to escape my flesh as a reanimated skeleton to type this.
Would have worked if they said horrifyingly badass
Do you know what the word horrifying means?
It means more clicks.
it means "click here u insane lemmings".
You don’t know the feeling of horror,
It sure as hell doesn't sound pleasant.
Alex Constantellis no
Nothing could top decimation, something so severe that only ruthless commanders called upon it. Imagine either taking the short straw, voting on the odd man out, or following the commander's orders to eliminate one fellow soldier. Such was Crassus.
Marc Antony was another who called upon this form of punishment, both were Losers
That was an excellent video but I saw nothing that was "horrifying." As a thirty-year veteran of the U.S. Army and a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point who served four tours in Iraq, I didn't see a thing that was horrifying. Rather, I saw a template for military excellence worthy of emulation. The only thing I didn't like was soldiers giving their loyalty to their generals instead of to Rome. That's why everybody in the U.S. Military swears an oath of loyalty to a piece of paper, the Constitution, and not to any one person.
Replying to you since a fellow veteran and many to reply to lol, but I think some of what’s horrifying is more toward the enemies being horrified, which for the time period was vastly ahead of its era, lots of their training style is used in today’s world specially for the US. However a lot of these tactics are outdated today, even our own, because it’s based on war having rules that are honorable, while barbaric, guerrilla warfare, some militia, ect. don’t fight with honor, they fight to kill and cause fear of coming from anywhere, and never knowing who the enemy is, they don’t follow our rules of engagement. It’s what makes regular armies today so vulnerable, and weak frankly, both mentally and physically. The reason for so many deaths on and off the battlefield.
Yes, before WW2 Hitler made all German officers swear an oath to him, not any Constitution or government, or set of laws. Disobeying any command by Hitler would be breaking the officers' sense of honor. In the USA if a president, the Commander in Chief, ordered you to arrest or shoot members of Congress or the Supreme Court you would have to refuse that unlawful order.
@@davidkugel I cannot envision an American president demanding personal fealty as opposed to an allegiance to defending the Constitution. I also cannot foresee American troops abandoning their oath to defend the Constitution to execute the whims of their Commander-in-Chief. Just won't happen. That said, this was an excellent encapsulate of a Roman soldiers regimen.
@@Zimmy907 Ehh you’d be surprised what people can be brainwashed into, history shows a lot of that, and even our own soldiers at times have committed some terrible acts against innocents, Leavenworth is filled with a lot
@@Zimmy907 Wow. You must have lived under a rock from 2016 to 2020.
The only horrifying thing is the clickbait.
Ha!
Hey is clickbait?
I didn't sleep for weeks after seeing this.
Well, there was a brief mention of crucifixions but that's about it for the 'horror' part. And they didn't even go into detail on the practise itself or _why_ it would be horrifying, which I find rather lame. If you're promising horror, pour out the blood-curdling details, or suffer the mockery of the educated masses.
Yep. Clickbait title, gave it the usual downvote
What exactly is horrifying about Romans here ?
Just decimation, crucifixion and just how overpowered the legion was.
Deltahunter aye but like.... worked tho
Deltahunter they overexaggerated decimation, and how is their military power horrifying, crucifiction is scary but they said facts which is multiple but yet only 1 fact got near being horrifying.
So. There is your answer👍🏻
Lately there's this tendency to see the Romans a literal nazis.
how misleading the title is,that horrifying
Basically being in the Roman military entailed wearing amour, performing rigorous training, and occasionally being disciplined. How terrifying.
Their training would be just as hard as training like a marine and I know you wouldn’t be able to train like that thinking your all big texting on the internet 😂🤡
Marine training isn't hard though. It's just a basic fitness regime and disciplinary instruction
@@jsgames6843 If you actually look at the training they do compared to other branches they have more psychological torture and harder physical training.
@@masondixon797 none of the branches have hard training unless you have a physical disability. It is just a basic course in discipline. None of them are remotely close to psychological torture you get into that once you enter a more specialized MOS that requires it. The marine corps training is closer to air force training in physical and mental toll than it is to any spec-ops training
You just wait till Biggus Dickus hears about this!
he has a wife you know.
@@jakeammann7763 Wait until Coitus finds out!
I love Monty Python.
I love your attitude.
Hahaha!
Bad clickbait. BAD!
J K lol your here arnt you , couldn't have been that bad you clicked and not only that you took the time to comment , bad comment BAD 👍
Reaper Squad Gaming what the heck are you saying? At least try to form proper sentences.
Augustine Daudud you really couldn't understand what they were saying just because of a few grammatical errors? Yikes...
ok what else you re gonna do if not click this? sit under a bridge and think abt your wasted life?
bad mr kitty its a bad kitty
*Sigh* Goes to play Rome total war 2 again...
nice original comment ;)
Johnny Zhu One the best total war games ;D
2? nope.
YourMoraleBooster Heh, more like M2TW with a bellum mod ;)
Rome 2 is one of the worst in the franchise rofl
7: The chain mail (Lorica Hamata) was actually heavier. It weights around 12 kg compared to the 9 kg "plate mail" Lorica Segmentata. The Lorica Hamata had the benefits of being easier to repair and to transport because of its flexibility.
Hamata also is a lot more comfortable in hot weather.
The Corvus, though effective the first few times the Romans used it, was quickly countered as the Carthaginian navy simply outmaneuvered the heavier Roman ships with their more skilled Marines and brought their rams to bear, sinking the Roman ships. The Corvus also made the ships ungainly and clumsy, and resulted in the Roman navy losing several large fleets due to this fact coupled with Romans not understanding sea weather and how to sight bad storms. The Corvus was removed from further navies as its tactical advantage waned after the first few surprise encounters.
The most horrifying part of this video is the fact that it is pretty much blatantly copied, point for point, from a history channel video.
Lynea sad to see from such a big channel
Lynea everything is being copied nowadays..
not always 100% copy like this video...
Can you show us the original video that this one plagiarized?
Mercy, copied verbatim or just similar? Would it make a difference if all videos on UA-cam were public domain? There’s a lot of borrowed material here and elsewhere. TopTenz makes a video a day, I’m guessing if someone mentions an idea, and it sounds decent, they run with it with little or no time to fact check. Keep in mind also that Simon has three channels that I know of. I vote we cut him/them some slack. 😎
Cool facts or horrifying facts? lol
*****
You called it both. The title said cool, the narrator said horrifying.
@TopsTenz
its called being a politician, fighting for views instead of votes.
+beepIL no, actually it's not called being a politician
@@beepILvgp¹
10- Legions were awesome and the 1st professional army. Training and logistics plus great equipment❤
09- Professional army =discipline. Decimation was real and did happen(rarely)
1st professional? what are spartans then?
NOT TRUE.....THe spartans and many other were professional fighting forces way before Rome even existed!
@@crazywildman Greek city-state armies were actually militias...citizen soldiers, not professional armies. More like the Naational Guard.
@@williamcummings948 I don't disagree on that. But OP said legions were first professional army. While I said Spartans were bred to become warriors and they existed before Rome was ever there
@@crazywildman Roman soldiers were soldiers first. They were paid a full time "salarium" to be in the army and nothing else. That "salary" is what distinguishes them from being "professions" that is "Paid," and being a voluntary military force. Taking nothing from the Spartans, Mycenians, Macedonians, Syrians, Assyrians and others who formed formidible armies...they weren't "paid." The Persian army was also full-time, but they were slaves. I would point out that we are talking about the Roman Empire, so these remarks are not totally accurate if applied to the Roman Republic, which had both professional and voluntary armies at various times. One example of this was during the 2nd Triumvirate when Augustus, Marc Antony, and Leppidus were battling for ascendancy in Rome, which directly led to the Empire.
Hey, I noticed scenes from the tv series Rome and Spartacus Blood And Sand - both highly recommended of course.
Did you see the pic of Russell Crowe?
This one's actually mostly accurate. Well done.
The first cohort of each legion was slightly bigger, it had about 800 legionnaires.. but that was from about 100ad.. but nice vid!
TopTenz except for that samuria one...
TopTenz i meant the knight one srry
The samurai one also contained a lot of what I would consider half truths. Metatron did a pretty good video about it.
I don't doubt that you do your research and that you care about history, but it's hard to argue with the specialists when they correct your videos.
Their training isn't horrifying. The more you sweat in peace the less you bleed in war.
Awesome saying...thumbs up
Train hard fight easy we were told. Very true
Error404: no horrifying facts found.
Decimation....heeelllooooo..
Thanks nerd! Love your videos!
Ancient Rome continues to fascinate me to this day. I remember reading a book in my early teens about Marcus Aurelius and I've been hooked ever since. This video was surprisingly accurate. Good job :)
Accurate according to what? Mainstream history is based upon bombastic roman propaganda. It is not an accurate representation of reality.
I don't remember who said it but 'History is written by the winners' So yes, no one truly know how things wore back then.
FlankCobra
It's an overrated expression. As an example, the history of the Peloponnesian war was written by the losers.
@@FlankCobra That's why you're supposed to actually use your brain to analyze things that you read, instead of just regurgitating the information. You read the account, and you think about who wrote it, and why they wrote it, and what their biases were. Then you compare it to other accounts on the same subject, and you separate what is true from what is exaggeration and hyperbole.
@@unclejane7453 With what I’m hearing for at least for number 10 and 9 and 8 are very truthful and has physical evidence so you sound stupid 😂
What you didn't mention was that the Romans had near 200 ways of crucifying people. While researching this during my theology degree I was truly gobsmacked.
Dang, that's wild!
One might say you were... godsmacked.
Bau Bau-ul romanofonilor exactly, but if someone wants to believe what they say then they are welcome to :D
There are plenty of contemporary non-Christian sources to prove Yoshua bin Yosef existed, but most "atheist" ignoramuses still argue that he did not. A real genuine atheist has usually thought everything through at least to a point and at least knows some of the facts. I think it's a bit too much to expect the noisiest ones on here to know much though after all an empty vessel makes the most noise.
Gordon Lawrence What you remember before you were born will be exactly what you experience after death. Zero, nothing, zip. Dead is dead.
Enjoyed this!
For future scripts, "comprised of" is a howler. Correct English is either "composed of" or "comprised".
"Horrifying?" Stop with the click-bait language. You seem above that.
E Willy T "seem"
They could have called this "10 generally disturbing Facts about the Roman Empire" but then who would watch it?
I came here for the comments, wasn’t disappointed.
Each comment more horrifying than the last.
Reading comments is often wonderful & just awful fun :)
Often better than what topic is being discussed!
It's like staring at car wrecks, but every once in a awhile you find a puppy
Lol you are so right UA-cam quickly degenerates into a dumpster fire in the ole comment section. It can be entertaining
Excellent. Enjoyed that. Thank you.
In 390 B.C. I'm surprised anyone "had the Gaul" to attack Rome
Brennus did; it was a great chief who has occuped Rome , and says to the Romans VAE VICTIS ( Misfortune to the losers malheur au vaincus)
@@sergeehrhardt2964 yes, and after that quote he was kicked out of the city by Furius Camillus that said " Non auro, sed ferro recuperanda patria est".
@@rossellalaface492 not gold but iron will make Rome
Decimation and crucifixions fall under the category of "horrifying", the rest are military and political strategies/policies. I smell click bait!
Pierre00 agreed
Two outta ten ain't bad
Crucifixions horrifying? Not really not unless you think that hands and feet were nailed to the cross and if you do then you are wrong.
yup!
@@minners71 Actually a crucifixion victim whose remains were found in 1961 had been crucified in exactly that way. Large iron nails had been driven through his wrists, with lime wood 'washers' to stop the shattered wrists from slipping over the nails. Both feet had been held together as a single nail (again with a lime wood washer) was driver through both heels at once and into the wood of the cross, which must have been excruciatingly painful. The man would have hung with his body twisted to one side thanks to his feet having been nailed side on to the upright through the heels, as described above while his arms would have been spread and fixed to the horizontal bar. The experience would have been utterly agonizing and he would probably have asphixiated after several hours of suffering and public degradation. So yes - horrifying. Not military though, although the army did carry out the crucifixions of rebels and slaves.
The presenter is partially mistaken though. Crucifixion was a punishment normally reserved for escaped slaves and those who had taken part in rebellions (which to the Romans were the same thing). It was an 'exemplary punishment' deliberately designed to severely discourage others from doing what those being crucified had done. He has no evidence however for claiming that the two men crucified with Christ were anything other than thieves, as the only evidence for their existence says they were. The fact is that Pontius Pilate, the prefect (not procurator as Tacitus says) of Judea had a reputation for brutal treatment of the people in his province. The crucifixion of mere thieves would match with what the Jewish historian Philo of Alexandria says of the character of Pilate, before he had to rapidly change his tune when Emperor Tiberius found out what he had been up to.
Starting to see some facts being mispresented, Gaius Julius did not raise 8 legion privately, 3 of the legions was raised privately, 5 legions were provided by the Senate.
Brings back memories of taking 4 years of Latin in High School. Now that was horrifying.
@schallrd1: Seems like you also attended Catholic schools.
Be stromg
Most schools don't do that.
I remember getting in trouble (the only time!) in high school when our (truly ancient) Latin teacher corrected someone's pronunciation. The corrected student asked her, "Well, how do you know?"
Without thinking, I answered, "Because she was there."
Having to write "Insipiens humore uti non debet in genere." a thousand times was the punishment (fortunately, no decimation). To spare anyone using translate:
The witless should not use humor in class.
@@csb78nm
I hate [ with a passion ] Catlicks ...
I love your videos man
...Damn it; Time to re-install Rome: Total War (original)
Playing Rome as I'm watching :)
wish i was you two right now );
william arnold You could probably buy it on amazon for 15 or 20 $£€ with expasions included 🙂
Check out Rome 2, its actually one of the most solid TW games out now thanks to a lot, A LOT of patches. Very solid game now. Edit: Pretty sure Steam has its winter sale going. TW games are all on sale. Even Warhammer TW.
CrazyNikel My toaster... an AMD Phenom 2 quad core 1.6ghz 3gig ddr 2, Radeon hd 6450 DX11 2 gig vram, would explode trying to play RTW II...and yeah lol, that's what put me off upgrading, I had high hopes for RTW2 until I seen the hilarious reviews and A.I. gameplay around UA-cam, but as you say like many other TW fans have, its apparently all patched up and playing smooth. Mite build a new rig in spring/summer 2017, throw in an i7 and gtx 1080, R9 even and give it a go 🙂
You need to stop calling them HORRIFYING. Stupid title.
It's all about clickbaits these days.
Albert Brammer Us
Softy times like ours, these are considered horrifying.
dumb titll3
He needs to stop calling them facts as well. Some of what he presents is true. Other parts are suppositions posing as facts (i.e. factoids). The rest is BS.
Nice channel - very few out there but this is great!
Awesome video!!!!
This are just facts, not horrifying at all
Jorge Hanel well other than decimation...
Most of them aren't even accurate facts.
Horrifying only if you intend to fight the Roman Legions.
What are you talking about? They discussed the most horrifying thing of all: rigorous training, harsh discipline, and consequences.
ADvorak lol you can put them up again my squad. 2 240L talking in unison haha we'll give them a real run for their money.
90 mile march in 5 hours ? with all that kit ? average jogging speed is between 4-6 mph 4×5 =20 miles (min ) 6×5=30 mile (max). you sure it wasn't 9 miles in 5 hours.
Mr ward yeah agreed. 90 miles couldn't be right. also, num 10 is completely factually wrong.
Mr ward yes 90 miles in 5 hours is impossible, when I was in the marines they gave us 54 hours to do 60 miles with full gear with various tasks built in along the route
Mr ward are you sure he did not say 19
He said 19
19 miles isn't impossible at all.
The plate armour was much lighter than the chain armour lol
The pilum was NOT designed to bend on impact, although for a long time it was believed that it was. Experiments done over twenty years ago (and which have been published in the Journal of Roman Military Equipment Studies) proved that if the iron shank of the pilum is soft enough to bend on impact, the point of the weapon will not penetrate a shield, thus nullifying any usefulness of the weapon, which is designed to penetrate far enough through a shield that it reaches the body of the holder. The mistaken belief was based on the linking together by modern scholars of a mention by Caesar of pila which had penetrated two shields bending due the leverage from the shields being moved in different directions and a mistaken belief expressed by Plutarch that the heads of pila two centuries before he was writing were fixed with a wooden dowel which cracked on impact to cause the head to fall to one side. Surviving examples of pila from the period he was writing about had been made with flanges which show that they were designed NOT to be able to move out of alignment on impact.
I thought the pilum was used to also render other enemies shields useless by penetrating them and being to heavy to use or ineffective because of its inconvenience.
@@PlumbingPredator It was. Experimentation has shown that once a pilum has penetrated a shield, the wood quickly closes up again tightly around the shank, making it very difficult to remove.
Even if a pilum failed to injure a person, if it penetrated his shield it would be virtually impossible to remove under battlefield conditions. Added to that, as you say, the weight of the pilum would pull down on the shield and make it almost impossible to use effectively as the weight is the pilum would both slow and exaggerate the user's defensive movements of the shield, in addition to tiring the warrior out far more quickly. This would lead to the almost inevitable decision to discard the shield just at the point where the warrior would need it most.
@@Crispvs1 thanks for the further explanation! Such a awesome weapon for its time!
Ah, the glory of advanced apes finding better things to fling than stones, or their own crud!
Articulated armor was actually less difficult to wear than chain mail. That is because the weight of the articulated armor though heavier was distrtibuted through out the body whereas the entire weight of the chainmail was borne by the shoulders
Plus the thicker padding required for chainmail made it easely more heavy than the plate armor.
Thought that was the point in the belt with chainmail? Puts the weight on the hips too?
@@JoeWalker98 I thought better distribution of the weight was the point. Maybe we should try it out.
@@trajan75 Most armour actually tends to end up weighing more or less the same, due to the fact that a fit adult male can only carry and move in a certain weight of equipment for a sustained period of time. So a fully equipped legionary weighed in at about the same amount a medieaval knight did, just as a fully equipped modern solder actually does, as all are subject to the limits of a human body which has changed very little in the last hundred thousand years.
@@Crispvs1 I remember carrying about 90 lbs. Fortunately it was peacetime.
Gibbon says the Legion preferred war to peace because peace time training was so hard and brutal and the men got no plunder. The Legion was required to build roads and forts. Tacitus says that one German could easily beat one Roman but that 10 Romans could easily beat 10 Germans.
Well what Gibbon said makes a lot of sense. Of course soldiers would prefer booty over a standard salary.
ofc they would prefer killing people over, you know... making a decent living... thats like every professional soldier/mercenary ever in the history of mankind...
@@MojoBonzo It wasn't about the killing, it was about the plunder. For a Roman Legionary, going to war in the right place could be an EXTREMELY profitable venture. After Marius reformed the Legions to allow unlanded poor Romans to serve in the military, the reason most of them joined up was because they were hoping to get the share of plundering a wealthy city, and in order to plunder a wealthy city you had to go to war with it.
Being a Roman soldier during peacetime would be all the hard work of soldiering, with none of the benefits.
Idk about "easily". The individual legionary was certainly no pushover.
@@ryanbrown4053 Sedentaries get less nutrition than hunter-gatherers. Some of the first europeans that went to America described it as inhabited by giants.
The pretorian guard was not a legion, it was constituited of nine cohorts since it was not lawful for a legion to stay inside the city of Rome
Well I can give you one terrifying fact.
Facing a well trained & experience Legion under Caesar.
Any day gimme 5000 mongols job done
That’s more of a statement than fact
says horrifying facts in video but the title says cool facts???
Matthew Larrabee no, its cool
click bait
Decimation isn't horrific? How would you feel if you drew the short straw Bau Bau?
It's called clickbait.. lying about content for views. Thus... a dislike on general principle.
Yep - lets just call it what is is - lying
Ave true to Caesar
john Calderon is that a fallout nv reference XD
The Wabbajackle no
Pyro Paragon well how would u know? they say that a lot in that game...
Pyro Paragon i mean ik it was common in rome before nv obviously but still
The Wabbajackle the game reference real life, so he reference Rome, even if he used the context of the game
i love all your videos
I wouldn't want to go up against a Roman soldier in combat. I like being alive, it suits me.
5000 Serbian farmers took out the Otoman empire in the Region.
Don't underestimate farmers
Ninja Kuma - Let's Plays, Reactions, Parodies weren't ninjas farmers
Jack Shap Not exactly, they used many farmer tools as weapons but not all were farmers. They did this because Samurai wore heavy armor and used larger weapons, so using versatile tools was better than taking them on head-on
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Actually, Spartans were professional military. It was forbidden to the Spartan men to do any craft other than war. At least, the military caste of the Spartan society, the one most people think of when Sparta is mentioned.
KOSOVO IS ALBANIA
Stop using "horrifying", expand your vocabulary, and STOP using ALL CAPS in parts of titles. Your channel looks like its run by a group of 14 year olds.
Lawlz, the counter comment is real. :D
TopTenz Omg. Sweg. :'D
I am Roman
I am not lying
My issue was that the title said cool, but in the vid you said horrifying, which are two very different words which have different meanings
The armour and shield of your illustration of Roman training after Brennus retreated from Rome is from about seven hundred or so years later. As accurate as showing an Aztec Eagle Warrior directing traffic in Acapulco today.
Succinct, interesting and educational. I liked the explanation of decimation and the relevant fact that it was almost never used.
Why are these horrifying?
Because it's all fake.
because click bait
Horrifying is the word used to hook you and me. And it worked!
1:25 Those are Dacians :)
Avadhut Kasinadhuni Indeed and that weapon is the fearsome dacian Falx.Nice catch,dacian :)
IIt's been said that when the soldier complained of sword being too short, Julius Caesar told the soldier take a step forward.
At point 10
They weren't a professional army but more a well trained And equipped militia untill 105BC
Heck not even well trained, most Roman armies were green when raised and it was up to the commander to drill them.
The defeat at Cannae.
The Marian reforms, instituted by Gaius Marius, were what transformed them into a professional army.
@@darrenjpeters exactly
You forgot to mention that those armors/weaponry had costed a hell of amount of money during that period. Enemies of the Imperium were being shocked only by these.
it sounds like you said 90 mile march in 5 hours. You must have actually said 19 but still impressive.
I heard 19, either way 19 Miles is insane
It was a little horrifying, very well researched.
I like how the first image ever in the video is a painting of Rome asking for help from Cincinnatus, and you speak of lowly farmers. Which he wanted to be, but was so much more.
"Horrifying Facts" they made chainmail and they walked 19 miles in 5 hours.
Midnight tbh walking 19 miles sounds horrifying
@@jeffreybomber4251 rofl
@@jeffreybomber4251 lul
@@jeffreybomber4251 Uh it was normal for people of that time to walk more than that... Have you ever heard of the Bible? Walking from Egypt to Israel is pretty far!
Midnight lmao I thought I hear 90 miles in 5 hours. 19 makes more sense
Brilliant, finding this was very well timed as I am well on my way towards the English Channel in the Total War series "Caesar in Gaul".
The fact they could march across continents wearing sandals seems unbelievable.
Very informative
I wonder when The Metatron will spread his wings...and land to comment on this video! :)
*****
I was just thinking that! :)
Crucifixion?..out of the door, line on the left, one cross each.
Oddly enough, most crucifixions were done on "X" shaped frames or "T" shaped ones, not crosses.
Antifoul Awl Only if you've been a very naughty boy
you could say he was trying to look on the bright side of life!
Excellent. ♡ T.E.N.
Excellent presentation..
What's so horrifying about these facts? Misleading title.
Crucifixion is pretty horrifying, to be frank.
try one of these. youll get it
Its called "clickbait". You simply vastly exaggerate in title in order to fish likes / views. That's how marketing works and honest work doesn't pay off.
Good video, would be even better without a clickbait title.
haha come on man, top 10 intruiging facts... would have been a more suitable one. But hey I understand, views makes you guys grow and such, just marketing :)
Wouldn't have thought I would get a reply, let alone you guys taking the effort to change the name. Nice job :)
0:59 I'm sorry, but there's no way they did a 90 mile march in 5 hours. You are mistaken.
Edit: unless you said 19 mile march.
Yes, he said 19. I had to rewind it twice to hear it properly.
hope the next video is top 10 definitions of what horrifying actually means
Oh yes. Very horrifying facts. I am so horrified.
This clickbait treating us like were are idiots is obnoxious ! I'm not even subscribed to enjoy unsubscribing
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Bryan Bates ...but that upright wooden pole looks to be in very rough shape...
Not as horrifying as the obnoxious condescending tone of the narrator!
Having done historical reenactment, I can assure you mail armour is much heavier than plate.
Mail armour is heavier, but it is more flexible than mail, as you have full movement of your limbs.
Plate protects better, but because of all the armour joints, you have more limited rate of movement.
Your knowledge of this subject is spotty at best.
I already knew Roman military life was brutal. Rather than "horrifying" I would describe this video as a good, punchy history lesson that underlines the effectiveness of absolute discipline coupled with an imperial vision.
Just waiting for the libtards to call you out on colonialism & empire...
"Decimation" is where we get the word "Decimate" - the word has been misused (AKA "Mistaken for the word "devastation" for so long) that the original meaning (to kill 1/10th of) has been all but lost.
RedwoodTheElf 1/10 is about 8-14 people a century
"Misused"? We're speaking English, not Latin. Language evolves. Get over it.
@@indiansfaninpa Evolves? Is that what you call it when enough ignorant people misuse it that it becomes common? I believe that would be "devovles".
The Roman Military is by far the best, coolest looking military ever
Mikey Condry Spartans were the best military ever. Given Romans took almost all of the Greek ideas, they are damn near the same.
I reckon the Spartan warriors, Napoleon Bonaparte's Grande Armee, and the British Redcoats of the 18th & 19th centuries looked pretty impressive too.
the persian army is more badass
Tyrion Lannister Persians were a bunch of slaves given swords...
Mikey Condry though you are not fully wrong, the Spartans actually had the strongest and best military, mainly due to them fighting more than defending. The Romans had the largest military.
10: According to sources, the first 5 of the 25 years a roman enlisted for in the early empire era were spent with training, marching and camp and road building. only after that they were send into battle. makes sense when you realize that they enlisted with 15 years old so with 20 they are finally at peak condition.
9: No, thats not entirely true. they had severe punishments , yes, but they were NOT the main reason for the discipline. Discipline comes when you understand why discipline is needed and what the benefit of discipline is. Veterans were eager to show the fresh recruits that why, because if the guy next to you has no discipline he is a liability in battle that gets you killed and for that reason punishments for sleeping on guard duty for example were so severe. because that would get possibly the entire legion killed in the field.
8: aw come on! the decimation was only recorded a handful of times in the entire history of rome. and the last of them and most famous was under Crassus during the Spartacus uprising. there are (at least to my knowledge) no records afterwards of the use of a decimation.
7: mostly true, BUT... highly emphasis on the term partially replaced by the lorica segmentata. the iconic media armor was in fact rather rare. estimations are that even on the peak of their use, only one of ten legionairs wears one.
The crest for common legionares was only used on parades. only centurions weared them in battle and NOT for intimidation reasons but simply that the legionairs know in the heat of battle where the F their centurion is and when the sounds of the raging battle are so loud you cant hear him, you can at least spot him and his hand signals.
6: No, i will not comment on that. that was so bare bones and even that was partially wrong that i would need to write an 1000+ words essay to explain this.
5: hey! that was surprisingly accurate. thumbs up for that one
4: another one that could fill essays but for dummies its fine.
3: yepp, and it was more common than most people know today.
2: oh my... the most infamous elite unit in history.
1: the first half is mostly correct. but in the early empire era, thats the 100 years after Augustus, the legions were highly loyal to the empire and in that short era being an auxillary and owning the citicenship that way really was beneficial. records found from all the castellum along the limes wall show that fact. it was, when the era of the bad emperors came that the loyalty switched to the "generals" and auxilliary forces became disloyal because of that development. that was a major factor and the mass movement of germanic and rus tribes westwards brought down the western empire in the 300s AD. and the eastern one... in all honesty arround 500 ish AD you can no longer call that roman.
“For dummies it’s fine”… it doesn’t take a genius to understand history. The video is clearly shortened and simplified to save time and focus on the main points rather than to construct it in a way where a five year old could understand it..
Great information. PLUS you give sources for further reading. Hate to push it, but could you give a little bit more info about what each source contains? One sentence would do. Watching this was time well spent. Thanks for printing out the "10 Horrifying Facts" to make for easier learning and recall. Top quality. ALSO, there is so much information here that it could easily be expanded into a lengthy documentary or series of documentaries. After all, we're talking about, roughly, a period of 900 years!
The only thing that could be considered horrifying is maybe the decimation.
And even then for the time it was far less horrifying as it would be now
What about the crucifixion
Isaiah Reitan Decimation, i heard about that when they fought Spartacus...I must admit it came off horrific...I don't recall King Phillip of Macedon or Alexander the Great ever resorting to that practice...off course, they never really were on the losing end off battle...I can see Hannibal resorting to it...the pressure and stress of war
Isaiah Reitan bb
the last Roman Emperor,Constantin Palaiologos-Dragats,died May 29th 1453,defending Contantinople from the Ottomans
Arhos Roukounas the last Roman emperor was Romulus Augustus not constantine
The empire continued under east roman rule , the ones that 16th century historians called ''Byzantines'', which were people that were identifying themselves as Romans. After the rise of the archbishop of Rome namely the Pope and the following attempt to claim exclusivity of ownership of the imperium , the Caesars' (Rome's Emperors) authority for his own political manipulations, the story that Rome really fell under the rule Romulus Augustus was empowered. It was the era of the Investiture Controversy, and the stakes were high. Above all though the Constantinople based Ceasar had long lost the ability (not the will) to protect the Pope,So papacy having lost their natural protector (Roman Emperor) seeked protection to the west namely Charles King of Franks. BUT it can be only one emperor, because imperium is catholic(in greek means ''for all'' ''for everybody'').So papacy denounced the right full owner of the Roman Imperium and named Charles as Emperor, which of course was not recognise by any of the other bishopric of Christendom. Thus with the decline of the east empire and the following islamic take over the only free bishopric, the one at Rome, cut, paste and reformed history to her own liking. So technically yes, Constantin Palaiologos-Dragats,died May 29th 1453, defending Constantinople, ...was the last Roman Emperor.
There are actually several fields of thought regarding the fall of Rome. One particularly interesting one is that it never did actually fall, but was broken up, and reassimilated. Technically - after breaking into the east and west empire, and after the ottomans, it can actually be argued that Rome's culture itself was pushed north, into Russia. Meaning the actual fall of rome according to this field of thought, would align with the overthrow of Tsar Nicholas the second of Russia. ----- there are actually several points of view on when, where, and how rome fell.
the last roman emperor wouldn't have died if they hadn't left the gate open hahahaha
How was Romulus Augustus "the last"? I guess you are not even able to explain it.And certainly not without completely ignoring eastern half of the Empire which was not anyhow less a Roman Empire.
Every time I watch a old episode of one of Simon’s many many channels i still can’t get over how different he actually looks with his big beard today
Yeah I actually findyounger simon quite difficult to look at in that regard. He seems so much more majestic in his later beard-erations