The reason why is because of that launch just imagine how many times a day it gets ran that launch system gets extremely hot i personally think they should redesign kingda ka like they did the new top thrill that should calm down the excessive heat from the launch system by a good amount
I work at GA and every month they have a “rides party” where they pretty much have 3 rides open after hours just for employees… This is the last month we will have it and the three rides are, Ka, Green Lantern, and Twister. Definitely feels like a final goodbye
Yeah, it seems pretty clear those rides are toast. Really wish it would be a simple relocation to other parks that need them (like a new ride rotation program) but we all know it’s not happening.
Not gonna lie, if Kingda Ka gets removed, I'm not gonna be at Great Adventure for maybe another decade. There's just much better parks, and if I'm only really going for El Toro, its not going to be high up on my bucket list. This coaster is so iconic, and is basically a tourist destination. The fact how they aren't even announcing this is insane. Maybe we were too harsh on the Six Flags management. Not only that, but Kingda Ka is so unique. As cool as it would be to have an RMC or B&M giga, I just feel like that isn't good enough of a replacement. Maybe we'd be talking if it were a T-Rex, or even maybe another Intamin Giga. That is if they tear Ka down, obviously.
The fact that the rumors of the parking lot hotel have resurfaced amongst all the Ka stuff is fucking hilarious. Demolish your big draw for a hotel while building a hotel.
0:47 “the park would never do this” lets take a moment of silence for Volcano, operated for a month, then closed the rest of the season, and at the end the park announced it would close. No send off, no final rides (btw they treat Hypersonic XLC the same way, it operated for 2007 then it was gone for 2008 no final rides, no ceremony, just demolition. So yeah, you are correct in saying parks will just shut it down without all the drama.
I remember hearing that Intamin had made a bid on TT2 but wanted to expand the layout but Cedar Point didn’t want to sacrifice any rides for the space. Maybe Intimins bid went to Great Adventure and Green Lantern will be the sacrifice to the new King.
Yes they have the room to do a rear spike. However, they ain't going to use Zamperla lol. Yes, Intamin again. I don't think GL be will scrapped. It will be relocated to another park as a sitdown. I have a hunch B&M has a solution with a vest restraint and a way to lower the height requirement. This Penguin Trek train got me thinking.
@@ThrillCoasters305 Does Proposterous mean good or bad? Or is it Pemphistic? Anyhow whatever these big words mean - Zamperla could not do Kingda Ka anyway. NJ prohibits rides from one manufacturer from being redone by another. But yes Intamin changing the coaster still sounds possible. We shall see. I posted possabilities before two other places.
From what I've heard, the orange color of the markings indicates underground electrical work. Not construction or demolition. Maybe they are looking into redoing the power sources for Kingda ka and Green lantern.
Closing Ka without a formal announcement to allow their "guests" to plan ahead and ride it would ve a real slap in the face for an iconic, groundbreaking roller-coaster. Is this how you treat a "guest" Six Flags??
Orange markings typically indicate low voltage lines such as telecommunication and alarm wires. For all we know they're leasing out the Ka tower to Verizon, haha
One thing that intrigued me is a message from one local. They claim that some of the park’s antenna/communication hardware is in the parachute tower. Orange markings mean communication line work. He thinks they may possibly be planning new com lines so they can demolish the parachute tower. Is KK and GL still on the chopping block if they end up making it past this offseason? With the new management, yes, they may as well be going with the parachute tower if what was said is true. It’s just something that caught my eye and would make sense if that ends up being the case.
Maybe they want to transfer that gear over to Ka since it’s the highest thing there and that’s what all this is really about. I’m on the side of Ka either stays or gets LSMed….it would cost SF a lot less to do this than build a whole nother ride
Keep in mind that if they have to do construction near Ka, they might be shutting it down temporarily, and the rumors of ka closing permanently may be exaggerated.
@Tyler63532 why are you telling me to cope? I live in California. I really don't care about the ride I like construction projects. Everyone is guessing at this point. You coaster fan boys are the worst. Tell me you're a spoiled brat without telling me you're a spoiled brat.
@Tyler63532 He doesn’t need to copr cause it’s not gonna close, all of this is bull crap, there’s no evidence other than this which could be something else, two with ka’s current state it makes no sense at all to close it
My personal theory is LSM retrofit of ka by intamin (just new launch and trains same layout) to make it run more reliably and at a higher capacity but tear down green lantern and renovate boardwalk
Especially if they aren’t actually planning to tear it down. Something’s cooking but I don’t think these markers are demo-related. So they ride the hype of the rumor until season’s end, then make the big announcement. Smart
I forgot to say that Zamperla is not doing well this year. At my home park they add a famiiar ride named Go Go Bounce and like 5 times a day broke down, resets itself and ppl have to wait. Not mentioning the situation where the lap bar got stuck and employees have to release it by putting a metal piece and releasing it manually. New ride after 9 years. Such a pain in the 4ss
A couple years ago, a bunch of orange markers suddenly appeared at SFMM on Samurai Summit near Superman and the abandoned Laughing Dragon restaurant. People started predicting the demise of Superman, which was already aging and rarely operating. While not nearly as iconic or even as good of a ride as Kingda Ka, it was still a concern to a lot of park fans. As it turned out, they were just comm markers for the new 5G WiFi towers the park put up. Does that mean that Great Adventure isn’t really removing Ka? Not necessarily, but I am just sharing a similar situation that happened across the country at the flagship sister park. Great channel and video Colin!
Thanks for the intel! Unfortunately, that time and this time have the parks being run by incredibly different companies, so I would agree that things are probably different this time around for GADV.
If I had to guess they’re gonna remove green lantern to make room for some kind of expansion to Kingda Ka, I mean, there’s no way they get rid of their main attraction, AND their worlds tallest drop tower, right?!
I’ve never been on kingda ka and probably never will be because Im absolutely terrified of it but I really hope it doesn’t go it was an absolute beauty to see when going and I loved looking at it from afar when approaching great adventure!
MY FAVORITE PARK, AND COLLIN UR VIDS HAVE BEEN HELPFUL THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS SEASON, WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, WATCHING UR VIDS WERE AMAZING BUT KINGDAKA WAS THE KING OF THE COASTERS AT EVERY SIX FLAGS PARK AND WAS SUCH A FUN RIDE IF THEY GET RID OF IT, SIX FLAGS WILL BE SADLY NOT THE SAME, BUT AT THE SAMETIME IF THEY INVEST AND KIND OF REMAKE IT LIKE TOP THRILL 2 THAT WOULD BE NICE BUT AT THE SAME TIME I REALLY WANT SIX FLAGS TO KEEP THIS RIDE, I HAVE NOT WENT TO SIX FLAGS FOR 2 MONTHS, JUST BECAUSE OF SCHOOL AND IT SUCKS, BUT I RODE KINGDAKA 50 TIMES, I DEFINITELY WANT TO RIDE IT 100 TIMES.
I first went to GA back in 2021 got ride KingDa Ka. I live in central FL so I’m hoping the ride is still up for the beginning of the season so I can ride it one last time.
With how the markings are being laid out I actually think the Golden Kingdom area is going to change especially with the new white one near the front of the area
That one is near twister which is going to leave and I saw a few by Lateran. When you go near ka or ever just past that white marker at the entrance there are only red ones. There is also 3 that form a triangle where a spike would go for a conversion like top thrill. I believe lantern and twister will be taken down but ka will be overhauled with a back spike
I believe the rumors are 100% true. I question the decision though. Considering it's almost 20 years old, and how much it will cost to build a new comparable ride, I would think the most cost effective decision would be to keep running it until it's truly at the end of it's life cycle.
There’s no evidence other than this to support it closing along with the fact that this all appeared out of nowhere, two if you look at ka’s current state it makes absolutely no sense at all to close it
@@Usastrong1123 Well, I was there this past weekend, I was skeptical but I’m pretty sure it’s closing. Almost zero Ka merch, two train ops, 6F/CF executives onsite, markers only around Ka and Green Lantern. I’ve heard multiple reports of a crane arriving onsite Sunday evening, which I missed. I hope I’m wrong, but these things are not normal and given the totality of all these nuggets of information point to it being a more likely outcome.
Half of that stuff is how ka is always, they 90 percent of the time only run two trains and there has always been a small amount of merch. Those markers are orange meaning they’re for communication and wires,and I highly doubt any of that other stuff happened
@@Usastrong1123 well the executives were there. I saw them first hand. They wouldn’t be throwing down markers if they weren’t going to start digging. According to some regulars, they’ve only been running one train all year.
Ok maybe you did see executives there I’ll believe that, but. Sfgsdv is my home park, I’ve been there about 30ish times this year and ka has been on 2 trains all season with a 3rd on standby
Saw you guys there on sunday, I knew a vid was on the way. Shame that this is looking like its happening more and more. But the last 2 times Ive been out to the park to get on Ka were incredible, specially sunday that energy was infectious. Sadly I had to tap out after 14 rides though. LOVE LIVE THE KING
Survey markers. Each number represents the station on the set of plans. Looks like they just recently surveyed those areas. If I had to guess, these 2 coasters will be safe for 1 more season. Putting together engineered plans is not something that can be done overnight.
@@Tyler63532. Step 1 is surveying the land. Step 2 is engineering a new ride to go there. That step takes time. It’d be foolish to remove the rides before a replacement is ready to be built.
I think that maybe they will operate for a little bit of next year but that is unlikely and would be the best case scenario. The township of Jackson nj seems to like great adventure and think about how fast they got approved for flash last minute. The second their plans are ready enough to show off these rides are out. They might not operate next year just to save money.
Do you think that a refurbish of "Board Walk" area will include a new theme and rename for Superman? The scattering of the DC IP rides around the park has always felt like it was never thought out.
I can see Green Lantern being dismantled and shipped to another park that could use a B&M coaster whether it remains a stand-up or converted to a floorless without announcing it and not caring too much, but shutting down the parks 2 largest attractions without announcing it would be a big mistake on the park's behalf and possibly lose over half of their guests and passholders. I honestly think Kingda Ka and Zumanjaro will be around for at least another season before they make a decision on what to do with it.
I think they won’t announce it because how unreliable king could be. If they say u have till x date to ride then something happens or it gets to cold all of a sudden and they have to pull the plug it would lead to way more backlash
My crazy replacement is a little nuts. I think green Lanturn maybe gets relocated and made into a sit down coaster. What if they made Ka a full(er) ride. Extend the layout with a multi launch. Or a Giga coaster (with a lift headed towards GL) and a layout that ends with a LSM launch over the current Ka tower and airtime hill
If anything, I believe Zumanjaro closes without warning but Ka stays for another few years. I can see Green Lantern and Zumanjaro going this year. I keep saying it, but removing Kingda Ka this year would be a HUGE mistake. Edit: If they do end up removing both Ka and Green Lantern, I really do believe an Extreme Spinner or Stryker coaster would be the only models to live up to its hype, and even then maybe not by much unless they’d go all out
Im not saying I find it likely at all, but there is enough square footage in the plot for a Fury325 size gigantic. Would that be a good enough reason for you or would you still see this as a loss?
I think that they would have to put something massive in its place. When these two go (because it’s inevitable at this stage) they will only have a supporting cast of rides and we need a main event. I think that it would be great if we could see it for one more year and get a revamp/ new ride for its 20th anniversary, but I don’t think cedar fair wants to do that. We can only hope it stays but it seems like cedar fair might be removing it because they had it in competition against dragster for so many years and want to turn the page. I am praying ka stays open
Yeah, then babies at cedar fair can’t stand to see is doing better than their precious dragster, if anything they should close dragster instead of ka, dragster has been a lot less reliable and way more expensive the past few years while ka has been running phenomenal
Guys im pretty sure they understand the importance of Kingda Ka. Lets all hope that they wouldnt make this decision without knowing that whatever they have planned will be worth it
I’d bet $10000 they don’t demolish Kingda ka. If it does close it would just be some sort of remodel like TT2. But I really don’t see that happening this year. Maybe next year
The land that Green Lantern and Ka currently use is similar in size to the land occupied by Fury 325. I'd be more than fine with the changes as long as Six Flags follows through and puts up some great rides to replace them.
Kingda ka getting the same refurbishment that top thrill dragster got would be great, and if it does get removed, a coaster like millennium force would be an absolutely great replacement.
@@massachusettscoastersI believe Intamin made a bid on Dragster but only if they extended its layout and Cedar Fair didn’t want to take that route because they didn’t want to remove other rides. With the rumor of lantern getting removed I see that option plausible if that was the case.
The coaster that replaces it will be super elite. It will be a B&M giga, something on par with Mach's recent amazing output ( Voltron, Hyperia, or an Extreme Spinner), or something game changing from Intamin.
Considering reaching out to local news outlets to spread awareness for the possibility of closure. Am I able to reference/include your video when I reach out? I am unsure if they will take the story or not since it is mostly rumors, but there is always a chance.
The footprint of both of those rides is significantly bigger than the footprint taken up by Fury, whatever goes is going to be massive if they want to make up for Ka
4:47 you have 3 markers behind the station in a triangle formation. We also have one in the station. I also think it’s really suspicious that the park is being really quiet. What are the odds we could be looking at Intamin redoing Kingda Ka this time? You would have to redo the station and TT2’s spike was in that triangle formation. The other markers by Lantern could be for future development… just an idea
Also spoke to someone who built the ride in 2005 and told me it’s getting the top thrill 2 treatment. Take that as you will but that’s what I heard. Also employees at the park have no idea if it’s being taken down or what they just know it’s closing. I really hope we get a kingda ka 2
I can’t believe there is a possibility of it closing forever. I’ll never forget when they built this beast witch makes me feel old now if they take it down 😂😂
Nor he isn’t, there’s literally no evidence other than this, and if you look at ka’s current state it makes no sense at all to close it, this is also the perfect example of how people believe everything they see🙄
With this whole thing going on with Ka, I'm curious how the future of Xcelerator is looking like. I know Xcelerator is 3 times smaller than Ka but it still uses the hydraulic launch system. It'll be interesting watching the development of Ka and if Ka is indeed being removed, I'm curious to see how the future of Cedar Fair's last hydraulic launch coaster plays out but if I'm not mistaken, Xcelerator got new launch parts fairly recently.
Just my opinion, if the deconstruction stretches into next season, and given Ka's size it could, Superman could be closed for a part of the season for safety reasons. It's well within the zone should a crane loose control of a piece of Ka.
I can see great adventure not announcing the closure of Green lantern because coasters is really not popular no more But I could see them announcing closure of king da ka because so many people love it that if this is all true Please take this with a grain of salt
I don't understand why there isn't an announcement or statement at this point. El Toro, closed. Roarin' Rapids, closed. Log Flume, closed. A GIGA would be a logical replacement. Something that's as good if not better than Fury 325 at Carowinds. Maybe SFGA becomes the flagship park considering where it's located and all of the possibilities that the park holds, including possibly adding a hotel at some point.
@ColiwoodStudios do you know if ka will be open later than normal this year? I remember you mentioning this earlier but I don’t know if it changed since then. Do you think it will last through December as that is when I am trying to go. ❤ the vids
My theory in terms of removal is either yearly operating costs and or perhaps it's facing large updates. CF (SF now) spent a fair amount of money and time refurbishing Accelerator. If Ka is in need of such capital maybe it's far easier to pull the plug vs moving forward. I wonder what the impact to the park attendance will be if Ka is removed. When TTD was shutdown, it had next to 0 impact on attendance. Making their yearly maintenance ROI 0. SF has to make these parks profitable and if the cost per rider exceeds what they feel make viable business sense new SF Mangement will remove the ride. They won't be following the previous SF model. If you look at the last 14 years or so, CF removed many attractions across a good chunk of their parks where rides no longer fit into their business plan.
I agree that dragsters costs were extremely high (I was at a Q&A back in early 200's where Montey Jasper stated was the case). The previous CEO Dick Kinzel stated that it was one of his top regrets. As my home park, I wasn't a big fan of the ride due to it's down time. However, I felt it provided a much better ride experience than Ka. I am trying to understand what factors might be taking place as to why the company would be looking to remove the ride?
Would be awesome if they could extend the layout of ka, use the area of green lantern for a first section and maybe finish off with an LSM launch into the top hat Expecting the worst but hoping for the best 🤞🤞🤞🤞
They're more likely to announce its retirement at the end of its 20th birthday. That is how the people in charge do things. This is evident across every FUN closure since the PR failure of Geauga Lake, and that one was close to home for current management(CF HQ not far from Aurora. OH). They felt the sting from that, and still do, from guests.
Maybe they might get something bigger and better for replace both of them. I hope the Green Lantern was sending as the Batman rabbit standing up why I was lame anyway versus the American scream. Machine.
not sure if there's any truth to this - but quite a few people claimed to have spotted Zamperla officials on site this past Saturday. hope for the best!
I have a feeling they will put a b&m Giga coaster, or a RMC hybrid coaster but it is a big plot of land so I’m kinda leaning towards a giga or some giant mega coaster.
Maybe it’s around green lantern and ka because there gonna expand the park maybe? This is mostly what I want to happen rather than remove ka or lantern. Maybe they will add a coaster In that space of the parking lot since it’s not used very much. Wait is toro now closed for the season?
@ColiwoodStudios You know how Cedar Fair decided to extend top thrill dragster by adding additional launch hill? What if they are planning on doing the same to Kingda Ka? I mean, you mentioned no markings around the kingda Ka station, so what if they keep the station but may end up combining Kingda Ka and Green Lantern together, making it all one coaster by modifying them? I could be wrong!
That would be near impossible and wouldn't even work right. They will have to add hella trim brakes from going 128 down to like 60 or 50 to navigates Green lantern layout.
@@johnnytest9355that is not true. . The way intamin can work a tight spot is insane and that plot of land isn’t even tight and intamin doesn’t have bulky track like B&M. Parks are too advanced to not be able to do what they do. Trust me it can get done.
@Extremethrills It was just a theory, all though if it could be possible, it would have been a unique experience going up the hill and then over the track layout of green lantern. Only time will tell what they have in mind🙂 I tried to find the width or the track guage for both Kingda Ka and Green Lantern, but could not find them anywhere.
For everyone that is rooting for Intamin: A lot of their new rides in Europe have tons of downtime or only operated for just one week. So If you say Zamperla is bad... Intamin has the same issues.
I think for the long term viability of the park, this will be a good thing. Kingda Ka sucks up so much money. It probably will be painful in the short term with ride losses but I think the new Cedar Fair/Six Flags will finally put more capital into this park and give it a much needed refresh.
SAVE THE KING! lol honestly the top thrill 2 treatment would be a win IMO over trashing one of only 2 true StrataCoasters I don’t count superman sorry lol
Who really cares about Green Lantern? The bottom line is if they do take out Ka, then they better be ready to bring the HEAT. If they are not replacing these 2 coasters with a record-breaking giga, ground up rmc hybrid, extreme spinner, or amazing full circuit lsm coaster, i.e. velocicoaster, then this park can go pound sand. However, I am confident they will do something big. Will be fun to see how this one plays out.
El toro is closed for the season. That makes me not want to go anymore. Jersey devil, el toro, ka, and nitro are the 4 rides that make it worth it for me
Kingda Ka is the reason people come to Six Flags Great Adventure. If they get rid of it, then it is not great adventure anymore.
Not so great adventure lol
As someone who lives in Georgia, that coaster is the only reason I know that park besides Nitro
@ it’s that iconic
Yall cry now but will be geeking out about whatever they replace it with. Change is hard but then you grow up and get used to it.
The reason why is because of that launch just imagine how many times a day it gets ran that launch system gets extremely hot i personally think they should redesign kingda ka like they did the new top thrill that should calm down the excessive heat from the launch system by a good amount
I work at GA and every month they have a “rides party” where they pretty much have 3 rides open after hours just for employees… This is the last month we will have it and the three rides are, Ka, Green Lantern, and Twister. Definitely feels like a final goodbye
Yeah, it seems pretty clear those rides are toast. Really wish it would be a simple relocation to other parks that need them (like a new ride rotation program) but we all know it’s not happening.
Not gonna lie, if Kingda Ka gets removed, I'm not gonna be at Great Adventure for maybe another decade. There's just much better parks, and if I'm only really going for El Toro, its not going to be high up on my bucket list. This coaster is so iconic, and is basically a tourist destination. The fact how they aren't even announcing this is insane. Maybe we were too harsh on the Six Flags management.
Not only that, but Kingda Ka is so unique. As cool as it would be to have an RMC or B&M giga, I just feel like that isn't good enough of a replacement. Maybe we'd be talking if it were a T-Rex, or even maybe another Intamin Giga. That is if they tear Ka down, obviously.
The fact that the rumors of the parking lot hotel have resurfaced amongst all the Ka stuff is fucking hilarious. Demolish your big draw for a hotel while building a hotel.
If....they do remove most of track..
Mack or new vekoma launch would only be fitting
El toro is mad overrated. Ka was absolutely the best ride in the park
0:47 “the park would never do this” lets take a moment of silence for Volcano, operated for a month, then closed the rest of the season, and at the end the park announced it would close. No send off, no final rides (btw they treat Hypersonic XLC the same way, it operated for 2007 then it was gone for 2008 no final rides, no ceremony, just demolition. So yeah, you are correct in saying parks will just shut it down without all the drama.
I remember hearing that Intamin had made a bid on TT2 but wanted to expand the layout but Cedar Point didn’t want to sacrifice any rides for the space. Maybe Intimins bid went to Great Adventure and Green Lantern will be the sacrifice to the new King.
I hope 🙁
Yes they have the room to do a rear spike. However, they ain't going to use Zamperla lol. Yes, Intamin again. I don't think GL be will scrapped. It will be relocated to another park as a sitdown. I have a hunch B&M has a solution with a vest restraint and a way to lower the height requirement. This Penguin Trek train got me thinking.
That’s proposterous!!!
@@ThrillCoasters305 Does Proposterous mean good or bad? Or is it Pemphistic? Anyhow whatever these big words mean - Zamperla could not do Kingda Ka anyway. NJ prohibits rides from one manufacturer from being redone by another. But yes Intamin changing the coaster still sounds possible. We shall see. I posted possabilities before two other places.
@@markdaniels2123 It means Batman the Ride
So much insanity is happening... 🤯
Great video covering this situation! 👏
From what I've heard, the orange color of the markings indicates underground electrical work. Not construction or demolition.
Maybe they are looking into redoing the power sources for Kingda ka and Green lantern.
Orange is communication infrastructure such as fiber optics and telephone wiring.
Closing Ka without a formal announcement to allow their "guests" to plan ahead and ride it would ve a real slap in the face for an iconic, groundbreaking roller-coaster.
Is this how you treat a "guest" Six Flags??
Orange markings typically indicate low voltage lines such as telecommunication and alarm wires.
For all we know they're leasing out the Ka tower to Verizon, haha
One thing that intrigued me is a message from one local. They claim that some of the park’s antenna/communication hardware is in the parachute tower. Orange markings mean communication line work. He thinks they may possibly be planning new com lines so they can demolish the parachute tower.
Is KK and GL still on the chopping block if they end up making it past this offseason? With the new management, yes, they may as well be going with the parachute tower if what was said is true. It’s just something that caught my eye and would make sense if that ends up being the case.
Maybe they want to transfer that gear over to Ka since it’s the highest thing there and that’s what all this is really about. I’m on the side of Ka either stays or gets LSMed….it would cost SF a lot less to do this than build a whole nother ride
Keep in mind that if they have to do construction near Ka, they might be shutting it down temporarily, and the rumors of ka closing permanently may be exaggerated.
@Tyler63532 why are you telling me to cope? I live in California. I really don't care about the ride I like construction projects. Everyone is guessing at this point. You coaster fan boys are the worst. Tell me you're a spoiled brat without telling me you're a spoiled brat.
@@Tyler63532 Don't be a dick.
@Tyler63532
He doesn’t need to copr cause it’s not gonna close, all of this is bull crap, there’s no evidence other than this which could be something else, two with ka’s current state it makes no sense at all to close it
Thank you for keeping us updated! I'd be heartbroken if they removed Ka. I promised a friend I would take her on it next year :(
My personal theory is LSM retrofit of ka by intamin (just new launch and trains same layout) to make it run more reliably and at a higher capacity but tear down green lantern and renovate boardwalk
I kinda hope your right
Wow, turned out to be a very busy year for both the park and your channel. Amazing job keeping us updated all season!
I'm trying my best 😅, thanks for the support!
I feel it's great adventure playing along with the removal and making it so people will come to great adventure
Especially if they aren’t actually planning to tear it down. Something’s cooking but I don’t think these markers are demo-related. So they ride the hype of the rumor until season’s end, then make the big announcement. Smart
Nope
@iamRepublican2 well I know that now 😂
I forgot to say that Zamperla is not doing well this year. At my home park they add a famiiar ride named Go Go Bounce and like 5 times a day broke down, resets itself and ppl have to wait. Not mentioning the situation where the lap bar got stuck and employees have to release it by putting a metal piece and releasing it manually. New ride after 9 years. Such a pain in the 4ss
yall ready for king da ka 2 from zamperla estimated opening day 2047
2047 😂😂😂😂😂😂
2047 🤣🤣
ngl if zamp does come in, I'd be so shocked and I personally will laugh out loud
😂😂
That would be the best scenario but i think it’s getting demolished
A couple years ago, a bunch of orange markers suddenly appeared at SFMM on Samurai Summit near Superman and the abandoned Laughing Dragon restaurant. People started predicting the demise of Superman, which was already aging and rarely operating. While not nearly as iconic or even as good of a ride as Kingda Ka, it was still a concern to a lot of park fans. As it turned out, they were just comm markers for the new 5G WiFi towers the park put up. Does that mean that Great Adventure isn’t really removing Ka? Not necessarily, but I am just sharing a similar situation that happened across the country at the flagship sister park. Great channel and video Colin!
Thanks for the intel! Unfortunately, that time and this time have the parks being run by incredibly different companies, so I would agree that things are probably different this time around for GADV.
Closing green lantern and making a ride like Iron Gwazi would be sick
There is no iron on iron gwazi. There is no steel on steel vengeance
Uh yes there is🤣
@@LyndsieDances steel is made with iron and the metal parts of rollercoasters are steel lmao
Well he talking about the space of grean lantern what about the space of kindaka my favorite ride in the park im so sad that there removing it
I feel like people don’t truly understand how expensive it would cost to remove and replace Kingda ka with a new ground up coaster
We are talking upwards of 100 million dollars which when you see why the chains merged it doesn’t make sense
Not to mention it’s this bullshit giga coaster people keep talking about
@@Tyler63532it would be cheaper to use the structure of ka for the spinner which I kinda like the concept of
@@Tyler63532 please not that. It was a stupid concept
@JJJJ-he8bz
Exactly, it’s like trading a lambo for a Honda, it makes no sense
If I had to guess they’re gonna remove green lantern to make room for some kind of expansion to Kingda Ka, I mean, there’s no way they get rid of their main attraction, AND their worlds tallest drop tower, right?!
I’ve never been on kingda ka and probably never will be because Im absolutely terrified of it but I really hope it doesn’t go it was an absolute beauty to see when going and I loved looking at it from afar when approaching great adventure!
Omigosh its so awesome not that bad as it looks its too quick YOLO
MY FAVORITE PARK, AND COLLIN UR VIDS HAVE BEEN HELPFUL THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS SEASON, WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, WATCHING UR VIDS WERE AMAZING BUT KINGDAKA WAS THE KING OF THE COASTERS AT EVERY SIX FLAGS PARK AND WAS SUCH A FUN RIDE IF THEY GET RID OF IT, SIX FLAGS WILL BE SADLY NOT THE SAME, BUT AT THE SAMETIME IF THEY INVEST AND KIND OF REMAKE IT LIKE TOP THRILL 2 THAT WOULD BE NICE BUT AT THE SAME TIME I REALLY WANT SIX FLAGS TO KEEP THIS RIDE, I HAVE NOT WENT TO SIX FLAGS FOR 2 MONTHS, JUST BECAUSE OF SCHOOL AND IT SUCKS, BUT I RODE KINGDAKA 50 TIMES, I DEFINITELY WANT TO RIDE IT 100 TIMES.
I first went to GA back in 2021 got ride KingDa Ka. I live in central FL so I’m hoping the ride is still up for the beginning of the season so I can ride it one last time.
I appreciate the google earth work!!! Good job!!!
With how the markings are being laid out I actually think the Golden Kingdom area is going to change especially with the new white one near the front of the area
That one is near twister which is going to leave and I saw a few by Lateran. When you go near ka or ever just past that white marker at the entrance there are only red ones. There is also 3 that form a triangle where a spike would go for a conversion like top thrill. I believe lantern and twister will be taken down but ka will be overhauled with a back spike
Ill cry if they remove Kingda Ka thats my favorite ride in the world 🌎
I believe the rumors are 100% true. I question the decision though. Considering it's almost 20 years old, and how much it will cost to build a new comparable ride, I would think the most cost effective decision would be to keep running it until it's truly at the end of it's life cycle.
There’s no evidence other than this to support it closing along with the fact that this all appeared out of nowhere, two if you look at ka’s current state it makes absolutely no sense at all to close it
@@Usastrong1123 Well, I was there this past weekend, I was skeptical but I’m pretty sure it’s closing. Almost zero Ka merch, two train ops, 6F/CF executives onsite, markers only around Ka and Green Lantern. I’ve heard multiple reports of a crane arriving onsite Sunday evening, which I missed.
I hope I’m wrong, but these things are not normal and given the totality of all these nuggets of information point to it being a more likely outcome.
Half of that stuff is how ka is always, they 90 percent of the time only run two trains and there has always been a small amount of merch. Those markers are orange meaning they’re for communication and wires,and I highly doubt any of that other stuff happened
@@Usastrong1123 well the executives were there. I saw them first hand. They wouldn’t be throwing down markers if they weren’t going to start digging. According to some regulars, they’ve only been running one train all year.
Ok maybe you did see executives there I’ll believe that, but. Sfgsdv is my home park, I’ve been there about 30ish times this year and ka has been on 2 trains all season with a 3rd on standby
Saw you guys there on sunday, I knew a vid was on the way. Shame that this is looking like its happening more and more. But the last 2 times Ive been out to the park to get on Ka were incredible, specially sunday that energy was infectious. Sadly I had to tap out after 14 rides though. LOVE LIVE THE KING
Survey markers. Each number represents the station on the set of plans. Looks like they just recently surveyed those areas. If I had to guess, these 2 coasters will be safe for 1 more season. Putting together engineered plans is not something that can be done overnight.
@@Tyler63532. Step 1 is surveying the land. Step 2 is engineering a new ride to go there. That step takes time. It’d be foolish to remove the rides before a replacement is ready to be built.
I think that maybe they will operate for a little bit of next year but that is unlikely and would be the best case scenario. The township of Jackson nj seems to like great adventure and think about how fast they got approved for flash last minute. The second their plans are ready enough to show off these rides are out. They might not operate next year just to save money.
@Tyler63532
Ka just got a new train put on along with green lantern this year, and ka was closed for maintenance earlier this year, you sure buddy🤣🤣🤣
I went on kingda ka once in 2006. Live no where near there anymore so I guess I’ll have to cherish that time I did go on it.
Do you think that a refurbish of "Board Walk" area will include a new theme and rename for Superman? The scattering of the DC IP rides around the park has always felt like it was never thought out.
I would love to see that!
Well one thing we do know about Cedar Fair is that they get started on this stuff early.
I can see Green Lantern being dismantled and shipped to another park that could use a B&M coaster whether it remains a stand-up or converted to a floorless without announcing it and not caring too much, but shutting down the parks 2 largest attractions without announcing it would be a big mistake on the park's behalf and possibly lose over half of their guests and passholders. I honestly think Kingda Ka and Zumanjaro will be around for at least another season before they make a decision on what to do with it.
I think they won’t announce it because how unreliable king could be. If they say u have till x date to ride then something happens or it gets to cold all of a sudden and they have to pull the plug it would lead to way more backlash
My crazy replacement is a little nuts. I think green Lanturn maybe gets relocated and made into a sit down coaster. What if they made Ka a full(er) ride. Extend the layout with a multi launch. Or a Giga coaster (with a lift headed towards GL) and a layout that ends with a LSM launch over the current Ka tower and airtime hill
Great adventure trading the world’s tallest roller coaster for some stupid giga is just stupid, it’s like trading a Ferrari for a Honda
@ at least the e Honda is reliable
If anything, I believe Zumanjaro closes without warning but Ka stays for another few years. I can see Green Lantern and Zumanjaro going this year. I keep saying it, but removing Kingda Ka this year would be a HUGE mistake.
Edit: If they do end up removing both Ka and Green Lantern, I really do believe an Extreme Spinner or Stryker coaster would be the only models to live up to its hype, and even then maybe not by much unless they’d go all out
Im not saying I find it likely at all, but there is enough square footage in the plot for a Fury325 size gigantic. Would that be a good enough reason for you or would you still see this as a loss?
I think that they would have to put something massive in its place. When these two go (because it’s inevitable at this stage) they will only have a supporting cast of rides and we need a main event. I think that it would be great if we could see it for one more year and get a revamp/ new ride for its 20th anniversary, but I don’t think cedar fair wants to do that. We can only hope it stays but it seems like cedar fair might be removing it because they had it in competition against dragster for so many years and want to turn the page. I am praying ka stays open
Yeah, then babies at cedar fair can’t stand to see is doing better than their precious dragster, if anything they should close dragster instead of ka, dragster has been a lot less reliable and way more expensive the past few years while ka has been running phenomenal
I feel like it’s getting reimagined. . The markers are literally rearranging ka to a longer layout 😊 imo. .
Guys im pretty sure they understand the importance of Kingda Ka. Lets all hope that they wouldnt make this decision without knowing that whatever they have planned will be worth it
Hershey Park looking better for the money. You can’t change to passes that are expensive and aren’t good and also remove two coaster from the park.
I’d bet $10000 they don’t demolish Kingda ka.
If it does close it would just be some sort of remodel like TT2. But I really don’t see that happening this year. Maybe next year
The land that Green Lantern and Ka currently use is similar in size to the land occupied by Fury 325. I'd be more than fine with the changes as long as Six Flags follows through and puts up some great rides to replace them.
Has it occurred to anybody that those markings could mean that they're building something around Kingda Ka instead of on its exact plot of land?
Nope because everyone is just believe everything they see🙄
I really hope kingda ka will be around a bit longer, I still haven’t gone on it and I hope I’m able to before it leaves
Kingda ka getting the same refurbishment that top thrill dragster got would be great, and if it does get removed, a coaster like millennium force would be an absolutely great replacement.
If Kingda Ka is getting that Refurbishment better be by Intamin if that ends up happening
@@massachusettscoastersI believe Intamin made a bid on Dragster but only if they extended its layout and Cedar Fair didn’t want to take that route because they didn’t want to remove other rides. With the rumor of lantern getting removed I see that option plausible if that was the case.
The coaster that replaces it will be super elite. It will be a B&M giga, something on par with Mach's recent amazing output ( Voltron, Hyperia, or an Extreme Spinner), or something game changing from Intamin.
Considering reaching out to local news outlets to spread awareness for the possibility of closure. Am I able to reference/include your video when I reach out? I am unsure if they will take the story or not since it is mostly rumors, but there is always a chance.
Sure!
I was there on Sunday too! I wanted some last rides. I was upset they closed the drop ride though and also - why was el toro closed?
I wonder if there’s any mark out in the Hurricane Harbor lot, could be an expansion of the sky ride too 🤔
Looks like a survey for a integrating coaster (btw the two existing) that may cross the parking lot. Could be something big!
The footprint of both of those rides is significantly bigger than the footprint taken up by Fury, whatever goes is going to be massive if they want to make up for Ka
4:47 you have 3 markers behind the station in a triangle formation. We also have one in the station. I also think it’s really suspicious that the park is being really quiet. What are the odds we could be looking at Intamin redoing Kingda Ka this time?
You would have to redo the station and TT2’s spike was in that triangle formation. The other markers by Lantern could be for future development… just an idea
How do you know they have a permit? Also there are white markers down by latern but none near ka so if that permit is true could be just for lantern
Also spoke to someone who built the ride in 2005 and told me it’s getting the top thrill 2 treatment. Take that as you will but that’s what I heard. Also employees at the park have no idea if it’s being taken down or what they just know it’s closing. I really hope we get a kingda ka 2
@@jacobrotkowitz3978good point
@@michaelmoser2641 where did you see the permit?
I can’t believe there is a possibility of it closing forever. I’ll never forget when they built this beast witch makes me feel old now if they take it down 😂😂
Ka is staying relax. I'll bet the house on it
Your about to be homeless
Nor he isn’t, there’s literally no evidence other than this, and if you look at ka’s current state it makes no sense at all to close it, this is also the perfect example of how people believe everything they see🙄
Also a little of topic but sfot got the same marks around Diablo and la vibora
With this whole thing going on with Ka, I'm curious how the future of Xcelerator is looking like. I know Xcelerator is 3 times smaller than Ka but it still uses the hydraulic launch system. It'll be interesting watching the development of Ka and if Ka is indeed being removed, I'm curious to see how the future of Cedar Fair's last hydraulic launch coaster plays out but if I'm not mistaken, Xcelerator got new launch parts fairly recently.
Just my opinion, if the deconstruction stretches into next season, and given Ka's size it could, Superman could be closed for a part of the season for safety reasons. It's well within the zone should a crane loose control of a piece of Ka.
My friend suggested they can loop in lanterns replacement with parachute tower and twister. What’s your take on that?
I could definitely see it
I can see great adventure not announcing the closure of Green lantern because coasters is really not popular no more
But I could see them announcing closure of king da ka because so many people love it that if this is all true
Please take this with a grain of salt
I don't understand why there isn't an announcement or statement at this point. El Toro, closed. Roarin' Rapids, closed. Log Flume, closed. A GIGA would be a logical replacement. Something that's as good if not better than Fury 325 at Carowinds. Maybe SFGA becomes the flagship park considering where it's located and all of the possibilities that the park holds, including possibly adding a hotel at some point.
@ColiwoodStudios do you know if ka will be open later than normal this year? I remember you mentioning this earlier but I don’t know if it changed since then. Do you think it will last through December as that is when I am trying to go. ❤ the vids
I would go as soon as possible, as it’s unlikely to stay open much longer
It’s just gonna look so different with out that tower there 😔
My theory in terms of removal is either yearly operating costs and or perhaps it's facing large updates. CF (SF now) spent a fair amount of money and time refurbishing Accelerator. If Ka is in need of such capital maybe it's far easier to pull the plug vs moving forward.
I wonder what the impact to the park attendance will be if Ka is removed. When TTD was shutdown, it had next to 0 impact on attendance. Making their yearly maintenance ROI 0. SF has to make these parks profitable and if the cost per rider exceeds what they feel make viable business sense new SF Mangement will remove the ride. They won't be following the previous SF model. If you look at the last 14 years or so, CF removed many attractions across a good chunk of their parks where rides no longer fit into their business plan.
If anything they should pull the plug on dragster, it’s far more problematic and far more expensive
I agree that dragsters costs were extremely high (I was at a Q&A back in early 200's where Montey Jasper stated was the case). The previous CEO Dick Kinzel stated that it was one of his top regrets. As my home park, I wasn't a big fan of the ride due to it's down time. However, I felt it provided a much better ride experience than Ka.
I am trying to understand what factors might be taking place as to why the company would be looking to remove the ride?
Would be awesome if they could extend the layout of ka, use the area of green lantern for a first section and maybe finish off with an LSM launch into the top hat
Expecting the worst but hoping for the best 🤞🤞🤞🤞
When this merger happened I thought Six Flags would ruin Cedar Fair. The opposite has happened.
They're more likely to announce its retirement at the end of its 20th birthday. That is how the people in charge do things. This is evident across every FUN closure since the PR failure of Geauga Lake, and that one was close to home for current management(CF HQ not far from Aurora. OH). They felt the sting from that, and still do, from guests.
See I would believe that if Volcano didn’t happen exactly this this 😭
3:45 There might not be any conduit to mark there
Maybe they might get something bigger and better for replace both of them. I hope the Green Lantern was sending as the Batman rabbit standing up why I was lame anyway versus the American scream. Machine.
What does the orange triangle mean?
not sure if there's any truth to this - but quite a few people claimed to have spotted Zamperla officials on site this past Saturday. hope for the best!
I have a feeling they will put a b&m Giga coaster, or a RMC hybrid coaster but it is a big plot of land so I’m kinda leaning towards a giga or some giant mega coaster.
456ft tall coaster with a lifthill incoming.
El Toro won't be open this Saturday?
As far as I know, no
Maybe it’s around green lantern and ka because there gonna expand the park maybe? This is mostly what I want to happen rather than remove ka or lantern. Maybe they will add a coaster
In that space of the parking lot since it’s not used very much. Wait is toro now closed for the season?
They need to get a coaster as tall as Kingda ka or taller.Its a bout time we see a 500ft lift hill coaster.
@ColiwoodStudios You know how Cedar Fair decided to extend top thrill dragster by adding additional launch hill? What if they are planning on doing the same to Kingda Ka? I mean, you mentioned no markings around the kingda Ka station, so what if they keep the station but may end up combining Kingda Ka and Green Lantern together, making it all one coaster by modifying them? I could be wrong!
That would be near impossible and wouldn't even work right. They will have to add hella trim brakes from going 128 down to like 60 or 50 to navigates Green lantern layout.
@@johnnytest9355that is not true. . The way intamin can work a tight spot is insane and that plot of land isn’t even tight and intamin doesn’t have bulky track like B&M. Parks are too advanced to not be able to do what they do. Trust me it can get done.
@@Extremethrills But he wants it combined with Green Lantern. How tf is that possible when B&M track is bulkier than KAs?
@ oh that is impossible lol never in a million years 🤣 so GP
@Extremethrills It was just a theory, all though if it could be possible, it would have been a unique experience going up the hill and then over the track layout of green lantern. Only time will tell what they have in mind🙂 I tried to find the width or the track guage for both Kingda Ka and Green Lantern, but could not find them anywhere.
For everyone that is rooting for Intamin: A lot of their new rides in Europe have tons of downtime or only operated for just one week. So If you say Zamperla is bad... Intamin has the same issues.
Do you see Green Lantern being relocated to Michigan’s Adventure as a Floorless?
I work there. We are having a goodbye party for them on 11/8/24 for employees only. R.I.P
3 markers behind the Ka station sure look like the ZAMPERLA Spike.
Reimagine or refurbish KA…. I’m totally okay with them taking out Zumanjaro, and Green Lantern.
Wdym? Zumanjaros the frickin goat of drop towers
@ great ride but if it saves KA then see you later!
I heard Ka is done for the season.
Nope, it’s still running, was there yesterday
@@Usastrong1123I meant now
Nope, we still have another weekend (as far as I know)
I will still come to the park but I might be wearing discontinued kingda ka sweaters😢
I haven't ridden it yet and I can't come down til Holiday in the parks starts.
no wait, I can go there NEXT weekend. Will it be open then?
Next weekend (no later than the 10th) is your best bet
@@ColiwoodStudios their calander says they are open Thursday the 7th. is that true?
Bro they pull all the merch for Ka too??
They haven't restocked anything
@ColiwoodStudios gonna cry
Well, Canada's Wonderland closed the Extreme Skyflyer without any announcement.
it’s two rides not one…
I wonder if S&S could revamp this
Dude I’m dying to go to great adventure, and now ka is closing?
Red means electrical, White means demolition
Watch this just be a PR thing where it's to entice people to visit the park
Coliwood do you think that Six Flags is going to entirely do away with the Golden Kingdom?
I hope not!
It means that the park is getting a giga or a 200 ft woodie from the gravity group
I actually don't get it. Kingda Ka rarely had any issues
I think for the long term viability of the park, this will be a good thing. Kingda Ka sucks up so much money. It probably will be painful in the short term with ride losses but I think the new Cedar Fair/Six Flags will finally put more capital into this park and give it a much needed refresh.
SAVE THE KING! lol honestly the top thrill 2 treatment would be a win IMO over trashing one of only 2 true StrataCoasters I don’t count superman sorry lol
Who really cares about Green Lantern? The bottom line is if they do take out Ka, then they better be ready to bring the HEAT. If they are not replacing these 2 coasters with a record-breaking giga, ground up rmc hybrid, extreme spinner, or amazing full circuit lsm coaster, i.e. velocicoaster, then this park can go pound sand. However, I am confident they will do something big. Will be fun to see how this one plays out.
El toro is closed for the season. That makes me not want to go anymore. Jersey devil, el toro, ka, and nitro are the 4 rides that make it worth it for me
Flacons flight 2 is coming
Bring the record back home to the 🇺🇸USA🇺🇸
You’re going to hear this here first. SFGA is going to built the tallest giga coaster in North America. A Super Giga. Yup 😂
I don't think kingda am will go without a fight.
That's a GIGAGIGAGIGA THE T REX KIND