FAQ: Where are the slug shotguns/secondary shotguns? They'll both get their separate video, because I'll rank them on different statistics. Also thanks for all the support! We're almost at 400 subs :)
The shotguns were perfect around two seasons ago, as somebody who used them a lot. They were incredibly balanced, but since siege players weren't used to balanced shotguns, they demanded they get changed again. They are all so inconsistent now, and they were never "better" than any of the other weapons, but when they got buffed, nobody was used to them, so that's what they treated them like.
See i had the exact opposite problem and still do lol . I could and have had the shotgun point blank on someone and it would still tickle them at best. The supernova is the only one I actually feel like works consistently now
ten days later and it is almost at 50k views. wow guys it is weird that when a small channel actually learns how to make interesting videos, it gets views? how does this happen? jokes aside, glad he is improving his videos.
@@SSS333-AAA The views are going through the roof 👀 And what you're saying is right, my first two videos are mediocre at best, but if you try to improve something every video, you'll get better at it eventually :)
As a shotgun not enjoyer, I thought cav and ela shotgun would be up higher on the list, and i thought the british shotgun would reign supreme or something, still a great video though :)
Thanks! The placements might be a bit weird to some, because I ignore secondary weapons or abilities in my ranking. Cav's SMG is awful and her ability is made for close range fights, so it makes sense to use the shotgun. The stats of the British shotgun aren't too impressive, but combined with an SMG-11 it's really damn good
Oh my god, I've always kept away from certain shotguns because they had such low damage, but I never thought the spread of the bullets changed. This video was super helpful for me discovering better shotguns than the British Shotgun.
Also because most of the time you're rarely gonna get into close range fights, instead, you'll usually be doing long range AR fights from opposite ends of a large room or hallway
Note about the SG-SQB: The game assumes all shotguns have the horizontal grip by default if they can't atach any grip, so attaching the grip on the french shotgun actaully makes you slower, removing it makes you just as fast as any other pump shotgun
I have been using the supernova since Echo and Habana came out. It is one of my favorite weapons and has never let me down. I agree with your list whole heartedly.
This video was great and informative deserves more views. One idea tho showing the finished tier list at the start could make people click off early once they see their main
Omg, I nearly 100% agree with a tier list for once?!.. That's pretty rare.. Great video though, I really like your reasoning for each placement too! Keep up the great work.
I find the German shotgun fairly consistent. Personally I'd have ranked it a bit higher, as I find the fast rechamber speed worth the slightly less consistent damage. Love the vid ❤
I personally would have put the SPAS-15 in A-tier, it oneshots at decent ranges, plus I feel like it's Cav's stronger primary and for Thunderbird it's a solid option especially since you have the Bearing 9 to go with it.
My main issue with the supernova is the hip-fire spread, it's insane, if you aim it's super concentrated and can one shot from a mile away, if you don't the spread is terrible and the one-shot potential drops to about 5 meters
hey man idk if your gonna read this but you should totally do another tier list with another gun class, after watching all these other popular channels make lists i can firmly say you made the best one ive seen 👌
Love the tier list. Everything is perfectly placed. I just wish the mossberg had a tighter spread as it’s my all time favorite shotgun in game and for clay shooting
Idk how much testing you’ve done with these but I personally thing the spas-15 with its recoil changes is s-tier. It has similar first shot kill to lesions shotgun but with much faster fire rate and more predictable recoil. Makes it a very forgiving yet rewarding weapon
It could be that some things have changed, but for my testing (from about 3 months ago), I shot the shooting range dummy 25 times at 8 meters. The SIX12 did an average of 127 damage and the SPAS-15 did an average of 85 damage. The SPAS-15's fire rate is a lot better at 290rpm (vs 200rpm). So you can make a case for that, but personally, I'd take damage over fire rate for shotguns. I hope this clears some stuff up :)
One thing to add its that supernova has "Changeable" shot, when i mean by this is that from hip you can make well destruction, just for entering soft breaches, enemies to close range and barricades, but aiming it concentrate the shots, to making its pattern more closer, i noticed it, and some shotguns "Doesn´t have" this "changeable" function... maybe im bad or good, but it a good point im pointing
I agree 100% with this list. I tested all shotguns when new blood launched hoping they would give the ads spread benefit of the echo/Amaru shotgun, but unfortunately not. Since the laser change from hip fire to ads time, shotgun in siege are more inconsistent than basically any other fps that I played. The spread is too randomized and with no laser to make then a little bit better, led me to instances that I shot all 7 rounds of the spas15 on a finka at 5/6m and still not downed her. They need to add a foregrip that increases hipfire and spread consistency but slow your aim walking speed, so you can get better shotguns at range at the cost of slow ads strafe, to make it balanced (at least imo)
@@AlijnR6 yeah, having shotguns at this state reduces a lot the variety in game. I used to run elas shotgun even when the scorpion was crazy op, as well as frosts super 90. Also, I know it's a controversial opinion, but I prefered alibi/maestro/azami AA12 when it was buckshot, I got só many aces with that thing. Now that is slug, is more consistent but more boring, no one uses it aside from cheaters and people that uses that Cronus whatever device They should make it buckshot, 400rpm instead of 300, but 16 round drum instead of 32 I would definitely run it more often instead of only using mx4 or the vsn on azami
Thanks! That's actually the style of content I'm going for. And for the mic quality, I've got a shitty 30€ headset I bought 4 years ago. But I've promised myself I'll get something fancy when I hit 1000 subs.
I feel like the ITA12L is super inconsistent there have been 2 many times for me where it’s done an embarrassing amount of damage I personally feel it should be d tier I’d happily take any of the c tier shotguns over that one but other than that great video and tier list
Honestly surprised that the M870 isn't higher up I still use it and it's a fucking monster. Crazy damage, good spread, good fire rate, and sleek design.
I’m glad the super nova is getting the love it deserves. When Amaru was first added this shotgun was the actual worst now shotguns sucked back then all the way up until the recent changes but even when echo and Hibana first dropped nobody was touching those shotguns
Not gonna lie im a hard shotgun main and the laser pointer change has hit me emotionally. Walking around at max speed (not ads speed) and hipfire killing is something i miss
I don’t have all the ops, so I used to think the British shotgun was #1 the French #2 and the supernova I heard was good but never used it. This will let me use supernova more often
I loved using it a couple of years ago, but it got hit the hardest by the laser rework. Its spread is so big that you barely hit whatever you're aiming at
Where's the ACS-12 and the TCSG12? I know they work more like DMR's than Shotguns but they're still Shotguns at the end of the day. Or are you making a DMR video with these two instead?
Still confused why they thought "Let's give Fenrir one of the best SMGs we have AND a shotgun revolver, oh, and let's just chuck in the worst shotgun as another primary option. I'm sure the players will use a big variety of loadout options and definitely not MP7 and Bailiff literally every time."
My opinions Castle/Pulse/Ace/Thermite shotgun is B tier, reliable. Spas-12 is High A tier for sure! It is such a nice weapon that it makes me play caveira again!
FAQ: Where are the slug shotguns/secondary shotguns?
They'll both get their separate video, because I'll rank them on different statistics.
Also thanks for all the support! We're almost at 400 subs :)
Dude I’m sorry but the spas 12 just isn’t that good it rarely 2 taps at point blank range
Also super shorty and ITA12S
@@evanshaidnagle2727 yeah I was thinking the same thing
@@k_x163 Because those are never used for kills, they are site setup guns...
@@evanshaidnagle2727 Because those are never used for kills, they are site setup guns...
The shotguns were perfect around two seasons ago, as somebody who used them a lot. They were incredibly balanced, but since siege players weren't used to balanced shotguns, they demanded they get changed again. They are all so inconsistent now, and they were never "better" than any of the other weapons, but when they got buffed, nobody was used to them, so that's what they treated them like.
See i had the exact opposite problem and still do lol . I could and have had the shotgun point blank on someone and it would still tickle them at best. The supernova is the only one I actually feel like works consistently now
Now i want a tier list of SECONDARY shotguns!
That'll be coming soon 👀
isn't there just 2? Lol
@@mahoxer6887 There's the Bailiff, Super Shorty and ITA12S, so it might be interesting to make a short or 2-minute video out of it
of course you want one fatty
@@AlijnR6 maybe a youtube short? great video man! very well put together! you made me want to use shotguns lol
How does this have no views lol this should have more views trust me brother
Thanks mate! The video is only out for about 5 hours so we'll see 👀
Just appeared in my recommended, THE TIDES HAVE CHANGED!
ten days later and it is almost at 50k views.
wow guys it is weird that when a small channel actually learns how to make interesting videos, it gets views? how does this happen?
jokes aside, glad he is improving his videos.
@@SSS333-AAA The views are going through the roof 👀
And what you're saying is right, my first two videos are mediocre at best, but if you try to improve something every video, you'll get better at it eventually :)
@@AlijnR6 exactly. first small youtuber who isn't egotistical and actually realizes their videos flaws. based.
As a shotgun not enjoyer, I thought cav and ela shotgun would be up higher on the list, and i thought the british shotgun would reign supreme or something, still a great video though :)
Thanks! The placements might be a bit weird to some, because I ignore secondary weapons or abilities in my ranking. Cav's SMG is awful and her ability is made for close range fights, so it makes sense to use the shotgun. The stats of the British shotgun aren't too impressive, but combined with an SMG-11 it's really damn good
The British shotgun probably would have been higher on the list before the shotgun changes a couple of seasons ago.
Dude Elas shotgun is terrible
thanks for mentioning the operators that have the gun also
unfortunatly they're pretty much all C-D tier with some at A tier at best bc Ubi can't make good shotguns. Same story with XDefiant.
Yeah it's a shame that most shotguns are meh. I'd love to see some type of barrel attachment that decreases the spread like the old laser sight did
@@AlijnR6 a shotgun choke on attack shotguns would be fun
I use the shotguns more then any other weapon in the g
XDefiant shotguns go hard wdym? double barrel and m870 1-tap pretty far as long as you don't jump and remember to ADS, and AA12 is at least fun
@@tysonwhitman3303 they're too inconsistent, great potential but the number of time I ads in close quarter and do 30 damage is insane
please keep making more videos, these are so much more informative and fun to watch than like 90% of the siege videos on my feed
I remembered that after the ads buff to shotguns I tried the Six12 on Ying as a joke snd it was surprising how consistently it killed from a range.
I’ve started playing shotguns recently, gotta say this video helps out a lot, but m870 still has a place in my heart, love playing it on thorn
Nice Video 👍 I love Supernova especially with its suppressor, I feel like Anton Chigurh from No Coutry for Old Men when I’m using it 😂
Oh my god, I've always kept away from certain shotguns because they had such low damage, but I never thought the spread of the bullets changed. This video was super helpful for me discovering better shotguns than the British Shotgun.
Also because most of the time you're rarely gonna get into close range fights, instead, you'll usually be doing long range AR fights from opposite ends of a large room or hallway
Note about the SG-SQB: The game assumes all shotguns have the horizontal grip by default if they can't atach any grip, so attaching the grip on the french shotgun actaully makes you slower, removing it makes you just as fast as any other pump shotgun
Seeing the SIX 12s and Supernova in S tier is crazy considering what they used to be lmao
Six 12 is still garbage 😂😂
@@EPIKGamess my guy you are just straight up wrong
@@EPIKGamess my guy, i got an ace with it, its not garbage, you just have to use it correctly
@@EPIKGamess I’ll drop you with the six 12
@@MsKyliel that's cool, nothing wrong with dreams and aspersions
Excellent video - appreciate you including the operators that have each shotgun, because at the end of the day that's really what matters.
I have been using the supernova since Echo and Habana came out. It is one of my favorite weapons and has never let me down. I agree with your list whole heartedly.
Thanks! And I love the Supernova too. It's just a shame that I rarely play the operators that have it
This video was great and informative deserves more views. One idea tho showing the finished tier list at the start could make people click off early once they see their main
Damn, nice vid man...rly high quality! Im gonna subscribe
That was an insane Amaru Ace holy shit
Omg, I nearly 100% agree with a tier list for once?!.. That's pretty rare..
Great video though, I really like your reasoning for each placement too! Keep up the great work.
Thanks! I'll definitely make more of these videos :)
always nice to hear a dutch accent in english
Nice video man , i really love the british shotgun hits to hard
I don’t know how this man has 75k views and only 1k subscribers. This man has calm and good videos that a lot would enjoy to watch
Thanks! I'm really happy with the growth so far. Who knows where the channel will be after 20 videos 👀
I LOVE how u have the tier list ready at the start of the vid u earned a sub for that
Thanks! I don't want to tease people too much, so if they know the outlines they can already see the placements :)
That amaru ace is awesome
I find the German shotgun fairly consistent. Personally I'd have ranked it a bit higher, as I find the fast rechamber speed worth the slightly less consistent damage. Love the vid ❤
The SASG 12 basically just tickles.
I shot it at the shooting range dummy 25 times at 8 meters and it did 45 damage on average 🫣
I personally would have put the SPAS-15 in A-tier, it oneshots at decent ranges, plus I feel like it's Cav's stronger primary and for Thunderbird it's a solid option especially since you have the Bearing 9 to go with it.
My main issue with the supernova is the hip-fire spread, it's insane, if you aim it's super concentrated and can one shot from a mile away, if you don't the spread is terrible and the one-shot potential drops to about 5 meters
Nice video! I would definitely watch some more tier lists! You earned a sub❤
When you use the sauce you have to have iron sight, suppressior, angle grip, and laser. Ever time you shoot, you have to meow.
hey man idk if your gonna read this but you should totally do another tier list with another gun class, after watching all these other popular channels make lists i can firmly say you made the best one ive seen 👌
Thanks a lot! I'm currently working on a pistol tier list, which I'm also giving my own spin to :)
@@AlijnR6 hell yeah bro, cant wait to see it. lmao if it werent for you i would still think the british shotgun has the longest range
My friend, I also did my own study about shotguns and to be fair, I came with exactly the same conclusion.
Thank you , wanted that tier list
The strength of the SASG-12 is that if your opponent sees you running it you're 1000% more likely to get a Kapkan kill.
Love the tier list. Everything is perfectly placed. I just wish the mossberg had a tighter spread as it’s my all time favorite shotgun in game and for clay shooting
Awesome video bro! Quality is way to good for how many subscribers you have, you're absolutely gonna get huge someday!
Really solid in depth video. Keep it up bro!
Thanks! The next video should be up in 1-2 weeks 👀
Idk how much testing you’ve done with these but I personally thing the spas-15 with its recoil changes is s-tier. It has similar first shot kill to lesions shotgun but with much faster fire rate and more predictable recoil. Makes it a very forgiving yet rewarding weapon
It could be that some things have changed, but for my testing (from about 3 months ago), I shot the shooting range dummy 25 times at 8 meters. The SIX12 did an average of 127 damage and the SPAS-15 did an average of 85 damage. The SPAS-15's fire rate is a lot better at 290rpm (vs 200rpm). So you can make a case for that, but personally, I'd take damage over fire rate for shotguns. I hope this clears some stuff up :)
One thing to add its that supernova has "Changeable" shot, when i mean by this is that from hip you can make well destruction, just for entering soft breaches, enemies to close range and barricades, but aiming it concentrate the shots, to making its pattern more closer, i noticed it, and some shotguns "Doesn´t have" this "changeable" function... maybe im bad or good, but it a good point im pointing
Every shotgun is like that, aiming down sights decreases the spread, although laser does decrease the spread while hip firing
As one of the only remaining shotgun users I greatly appreciate this video man 🙏 amazing video
good video
also, are you dutch by chance?
Thanks! And yes I'm Dutch :)
Im sure you deserve more attention. I really like your dutch accent. You have a talent, keep going!
This tier list would flip upside down if it was based off of how zesty you have to be feeling to use them
They really need to buff mira’s shutgun
Keep up the good work. I really enjoyed the video it was useful. You deserve atleast 10k subscribers!
i’m your 400th sub! i hope you keep posting i would love to see more of these kind of videos
Thanks! I'll definitely make more of these videos :)
The tier list all of us needed
Are you dutch? I think i recognise your accent.
Great video btw
Thanks! And yes I'm Dutch
Please make other weapon class tier videos! I love this!
I agree 100% with this list. I tested all shotguns when new blood launched hoping they would give the ads spread benefit of the echo/Amaru shotgun, but unfortunately not. Since the laser change from hip fire to ads time, shotgun in siege are more inconsistent than basically any other fps that I played. The spread is too randomized and with no laser to make then a little bit better, led me to instances that I shot all 7 rounds of the spas15 on a finka at 5/6m and still not downed her. They need to add a foregrip that increases hipfire and spread consistency but slow your aim walking speed, so you can get better shotguns at range at the cost of slow ads strafe, to make it balanced (at least imo)
I'd love it if they made the spread less random and tighter, even if it's in the form of an attachment with a heavy downside
@@AlijnR6 yeah, having shotguns at this state reduces a lot the variety in game. I used to run elas shotgun even when the scorpion was crazy op, as well as frosts super 90.
Also, I know it's a controversial opinion, but I prefered alibi/maestro/azami AA12 when it was buckshot, I got só many aces with that thing. Now that is slug, is more consistent but more boring, no one uses it aside from cheaters and people that uses that Cronus whatever device
They should make it buckshot, 400rpm instead of 300, but 16 round drum instead of 32
I would definitely run it more often instead of only using mx4 or the vsn on azami
Just gained a subscriber. Good quality video 👍
Yep, now Saiga is certainly D tier, but I used to play with it a lot, it was great until then have removed laser's trait to reduce the spread
Aside from mic quality, I need something to replace Gregor. Subbed.
Thanks! That's actually the style of content I'm going for. And for the mic quality, I've got a shitty 30€ headset I bought 4 years ago. But I've promised myself I'll get something fancy when I hit 1000 subs.
Hey bro this is a pretty great video man. Waching this making me want to get back into siege it reminded me of iceycat ngl
Great video man. Subbed
great video! straight to the point and very concise
Actually good video, good job man
I feel like the ITA12L is super inconsistent there have been 2 many times for me where it’s done an embarrassing amount of damage I personally feel it should be d tier I’d happily take any of the c tier shotguns over that one but other than that great video and tier list
You should try a tier list on secondary shotguns
That'll be coming soon 👀
Definitely a underrated video 💯👍🏻😎
why do you dont have any subscribers this vid is fire
Thanks! I had 200 subs before I released this video so I can't complain :)
Love this video, all I play is shotgun, on defend and attack. Hit champ last season running shotguns only
Ima call it now, he is gonna be a big r6 youtuber in the future.
We shall see 👀
Rip super 90 on release. Gone but never forgotten.
The fact that in the first clip he took a damn shotgun to the face and took like 1/8 damage proves his point 😂
The SASG is awful xD
During my testing it once did 19 damage at 8 meters 😵💫
RIP the Sosig 😭😭😭
Great video I agree with it all. But did you miss the slug shotgun on azami and alibi
Thanks! I'll cover the slug shotguns in a different video because of how different they are from the normal shotguns
@@AlijnR6 oh ok my bad thanks for explaining 😁
Honestly surprised that the M870 isn't higher up I still use it and it's a fucking monster. Crazy damage, good spread, good fire rate, and sleek design.
Yea I agree with you, it should be a decent bit higher, I guess without and way to make the pellet spread tighter it's a little less reliable
From my testing it dealt about the same/less damage than the SPAS-12, with half of the fire rate. So I didn't wanna put it any higher than low B-Tier
i came through the yt short. just to let you know. also it was a nice short imp
That's great to hear! :)
According to UA-cam I got 330 views of my long form video thanks to my shorts, so I might try something like that again
Great video! You got my sub
I’m glad the super nova is getting the love it deserves. When Amaru was first added this shotgun was the actual worst now shotguns sucked back then all the way up until the recent changes but even when echo and Hibana first dropped nobody was touching those shotguns
new favorite r6 youtuber :0
Not gonna lie im a hard shotgun main and the laser pointer change has hit me emotionally. Walking around at max speed (not ads speed) and hipfire killing is something i miss
I miss that time 🥲
The laser sight even helped to tighten the spread when ADS'ed
This is very well made
I'm subscribing, I know which shotties to use more often now
3:06 the m870 is a really good shotgun in my opinion but really good video
shotguns are cool but i somehow i always do horribly with them lol, good video
Thanks! The most important tip for shotguns is to ADS with them, that makes them a lot more lethal and consistent
Great video dude! You forgot 2 shotguns though: Azami’s shotgun and the real king of all shotguns: The BOSG 😎
This is a list of buckshot shotguns. ACS12, BOSG and TCSG12 are slug shotguns and they should rather be compared to dmr's
@@thathyzeyet they are still shotguns
How do you get your graphics to look like that? Would be fire if you could make a video on it!
I needed this ❤
Great video especially for how small your channel is!
I don’t have all the ops, so I used to think the British shotgun was #1 the French #2 and the supernova I heard was good but never used it. This will let me use supernova more often
great video! :)
I hear fellow dutchman, i press like 🇳🇱
IMA GO TRY THE SD
The saiga-12’s falloff needs to be studied
I loved using it a couple of years ago, but it got hit the hardest by the laser rework. Its spread is so big that you barely hit whatever you're aiming at
@@AlijnR6it was bad the second they released the shotgun “rework”. The Sasg-12 lost half of its damage. It went from 50 to 24 damage
You should make more tierlists!!
Thanks! I definitely will :)
Great video!
Great video man!
yeah the m870 used to be my favorite shotgun but now i use supernova or the french shotgun
Where's the ACS-12 and the TCSG12? I know they work more like DMR's than Shotguns but they're still Shotguns at the end of the day. Or are you making a DMR video with these two instead?
They'll have their own tier list, because you can't compare them to regular shotguns
@@AlijnR6 are you gonna add them to the DMR tier list? It’s just 2 of them.
@@josueismad6778 There's also the BOSG, so I think I'll make a shorter video about it. I might be able to cram it into a short 👀
@@AlijnR6 Lol, you're right. I completely forgot about the BSOG.
Good video stay consistent
Still confused why they thought "Let's give Fenrir one of the best SMGs we have AND a shotgun revolver, oh, and let's just chuck in the worst shotgun as another primary option. I'm sure the players will use a big variety of loadout options and definitely not MP7 and Bailiff literally every time."
Sounds like Ubisoft ._.
A shotgun doesn't even suit his ability, so I have no idea why they gave him the worst one
My opinions
Castle/Pulse/Ace/Thermite shotgun is B tier, reliable.
Spas-12 is High A tier for sure! It is such a nice weapon that it makes me play caveira again!
As a shotgun lover this was a great video it just sucks that be cause of the laser change it’s harder to get one shots from range
nice vid i started using shotguns more and been enjoying them i'll give the supernova a try
The Supernova is definitely worth a try! The feeling of one-shotting someone from 10+ meters is wonderful
this is an amazing video i love it
The ela shotty should be higher in the list , even at range with the high firerate it can shred any unsuspecting victim
RIP to the Super 90 and M870, gone but not forgotten [ ]7