@@BigJordan92708 I agree, Nas is not only lyrically superior than most of his peers, he is also intellectually superior, so I definitely see him as a lone wolf type personality.
John MoyaSODMG didn’t say he wasn’t in a group, I said he doesn’t seem like a group guy, Nas wasn’t known for a group guy either, he’s known for basically being dolo.
Bitchs in this country have been though from a early age they can do whatever they want with their bodies it's no one's business and they shouldn't have any regrets about a damn thing ..
I didn't think nas was weak cuz of that.I say nas was weak cuz he made peace & worked 4 J who disrespected his daughter.Wut kinda bitch ass nigga does that!?!? No way in hell u gonna diss my family & we cool afterwards.
Irv can come off odd and irritating sometimes, but he hilarious and also I gotta respect this man’s efforts that he put into the culture. Definitely a creative genius. Salute 💯
That Guy How JayZ lose ‘the war’ when he was eventually Nas’ boss (as president of Def Jam). That man was signing Nas’ checks so that man could eat and pay his child support, bruh. 😂
@@sweetjones7631 You must not pay attention to well...Nas & Jay had a joint venture which precluded Nas signing to Def Jam...& what the fuck does that have to do with the battle idiot?
@@sweetjones7631 lol. Why are u making things up?? L. A. Reid was Nas boss and was signing both Nas and Jay's checks. Was Nas signed to Roc Nation?? Do some research and stop listening to fake narratives.
No he wasnt. LAReid was nas's boss. Nas declined presidency role at Atlantic records and LA reid paid nas north of 10 milly in bonus money (not advanced money) Those who know pretty much knows. But yall can keep talking fallacies so keep on cooking with that fake narrative😭😭😭
Jay had the whole industry behind him and I remember nas rant on the radio and nobody wanted to play his diss record the streets definitely help nas in that regard
Nas said nothing special.please quote some vicious lines that nas.this nigga said "cock a fella records" 😒🤦 he said the man had dick sucking lips 🤔🤔very suspect.nas said some wack ass shit but hov came with one verse of straight facts and 🔥🔥
Okay, I stated that they kind of had beef with the same certain individuals, so that kind of drew them together... That’s not spreading rumors... What are we, little kids ? Are we gonna get into a back and forth comment war about something that happened about 2 decades ago, between rappers ?
@@harvident5703 nigga that's business something most niggaz can't understand ..was Nas supposed to be stuck in some emotional state over a rap beef he didn't even want ..Nas didn't want the beef dude wasn't even feeling hip hop at the time his mother was dying of cancer and niggaz took shots at the kid..Nas didn't stress shit about a bitch that's why ether hit so hard he destroyed Jay with straight up facts ..yrs later u think both men who are father's and got big Bill should be still beefing hell yeah he signed with Jay Jay gave Nas and Jim Jones great deals ..Jay has always respected Nas talents ..
envyops it was a mob deep diss, the nas verse was a response to the stillmatic freestyle nas did. Takeover never stood a chance against ether. It’s really takeover vs stillmatic ether vs takeover
Now the “blueprint 2” track on the blueprint 2 album that’s what jay should’ve put out first. But the damage was done already. Jay just sounded desperate. Even though that’s my shit.
@@gocards2369 im not sure you know what lyricism means. Gay Z, cock afella and like an aids test not positive - is actually weak lyricism albeit sloppy I dont care if you mobb deep, i hold triggers to crews/cruise. You little f() ck I got money stacks bigger than you. That is real lyricism. Ether was nowhere near as lyrical as the takeover.
"I gave you power" is a top 5 track of all time, that song is in the same category as "Stan" and i got that from Busta, he was right, those are 2 songs that just blow your mind
@@cm725 Pete Rock, Statik Selektah [Who's Song With Nas Plays During The Trailer People Think It's Kanye West But It's Not] Kanye West, RZA, No ID, Pharrell, Swizz Beatz, And Many Others....It Drops On July 19th.
Beyond Beleef Bro, Irv’s name is etched in Ruff Ryders, Rocafella, Def Jam history, not to mention what he did wit Murder Inc. Irv got connections because he’s a genius, & ppl made so much money wit him
Sounds like to me Irv was partly the reason Jay lost that rap battle to Nas plus Irv put a strain between his brotherhood with Jay by trying to sign Nas. Stillmatic freestyle was still way better than Super Ugly even if they didn’t compare it to Ether 🤷🏽♂️
@@stevenjp911 Exactly! Jay Only Had One Verse Entirely Aimed At Nas On "The Takeover" The Person You Responded To Should Understand Why Does He Think Irv Gotti Said "If He Knew People Was Comparing Super Ugly Against Ether He Would've Did Something Entirely Different" Irv Is Saying "The Takeover" Is Better Because Jay Z Is His Friend From Way Back When. Why Would He Not Jay Also Helped Him With The Deal On Getting His Show "Tales" On B.E.T....... Yo Much Props For That Statement.....
Jay won the war tho. Ether was dope, but as Nipsey Hussle says, life's a marathon. And J is still relevant music wise too this day. That's all im saying about that!
Herbie Husker that won the war comment is always lame considering Nas & Jay are both considered 2 of the best to ever do it. Both are very relevant to this day and both are crazy successful businessmen. Looking at what Nas has done with his investments you’ll see why Puff said “Nas what you doing on Silicon Valley you done out hustled ME” lol
Haks Hustle he said “cause even in defeat” on a record and in an interview he said the Takeover was supposed to be like the four figure leg lock you shouldn’t be able to escape that or get out of it implying that Nas did. Like I did my best but Nas still got out of it and dropped a bomb as Nas says
Personally, I think takeover is better cause Jay was spitting all facts. Ether was more opinionated insults...like you ugly, girls wasn't messing with you, dame stupid... etc. Ether was more of a lyrical symphony and all but Jay was saying real life shit...Nas had the better sounding song I guess. But Jay ain't make the whole song's energy about Nas either. To me, the beef resurrected nas career at the time. Nas was steadily declining since "it was written" to me
I’ll say it again like I’ve said a million times before... All you mf’s do is regurgitate everything y’all hear out of the Jay-Z dickriders mouths, there was one fact in Takeover! One! The rest were opinions...
@@ncnyc4418 all the labels have had their time. Scary thing is Cash Money Records has been been relevant the whole time. The label For me? "Death Row is the label that pays me!"
@osher naim they're talking about their relationship with each other and trying to react in a professional manner when certain songs came out, it wasn't about being successful
@@markmercado89 You are an idiot. LA reid was Nas boss. You millenials are lazy. Do some actual research on how that whole def jam contract went down. Jay stans still struggling with ether. Let it go😂😂😂😂
@@radarinfinite1032 DSL= Jay had a penchant for using people for his come up. From Klein to Jaz to BIG... Cockafella = Naming themselves after Rockefeller is actually kinda questionable. It shows they were lost as black men by putting white wealth on a pedestal. But that's what happens when you take Nas at face value. Besides that what Nas was saying was facts that's why there's no Jay track addressing Ether the way he addressed H to the Omo.
Lost what? Dude might not be a better story teller, but he's def a happier man today. And that's the real war we rage in life. Fuck a 4 min song, jays sitting in the top 3 strong.
@@willsmooth1355 no i don't Will Snatch i mean smooth. Just look at his life. His choices, his mistakes, his strong loving wife. And in our society, its ok too live good when you earn the funds too do so. Cant you read peoples body language? . The guy is winning in life. A diss song burn doesn't deny that fact Willie. All in all, id say ether is my favorite of the song mentioned
Jay dissed his whole being......and his career(which is what Im more concerned with during a beef) Nas angrily ranted about him being ugly and insecure.....
...hmmm, perhaps you weren't (around) back then. It was a frenzy, sheer madness; without any social media and other technology. Jay hit with TAKEOVER like mid-to-late summer; Nasir didn't hit back until months later-- early December with ETHER. (Nas had a few mixtapes verses here and thete). Jay hit and countered with the spitfire truth of SUPERUGLY the very next day. Of course the media being the media and fans and spectators alike--- put ETHER up against SUPER UGLY because they were so close in their releases to the public--- who were fienin' and raging over the two Titans. Yes, I am a bit biased with the two--- I put HOV over NAS, moreover for his consistency, beat selections, ability to create on the spot, flow, lyrics, business acumen, philanthropic efforts, his truth in what he spits-- his growth, etc. Huge fact; he too, is from BROOKLYN, NY, USA
Lol. Jay is not as consistent as nas when it comes to songs and albums. Jay has a good amount of duds with Vol 3 being his 1st one followed by bp2, KC,Bp3, and that hot garbage MCHG. Hov still in my top 4 but no he aint consistent at all.
Irv is not admitting his motives in wanting to sign Nas. I remember an interview Irv did years ago where he was salty at his "brother" Jay Z for being the reason why Irv's dream supergroup with Jay/DMX/Ja rule never came to fruition. Jay was the first one to quit the group. Then, Irv spoke on his unhappiness with Jay when he quit a huge tour featuring himself, Ja Rule and Puff Daddy to headline the Sprite Liquid Mix tour on his own. So Irv knew what he was doing when he was working with Nas by trying to stick it to Jay. But it backfired.
@@HS32153 Jay only got dismissive of them because Lyor Cohen at Def Jam was getting into his and everyone's heads at that time. Rocafella, Ruff Ryders and Murda Inc were ALL moving units for the Def Jam back then and it was always friendly competition. All 3 labels were close at this time. But it turned sour when Lyor started pitting the labels against each other and that's when beefs started forming between each other. Irv spoke on this as well. Lyor pulled the divide and conquer tactic.
@@drestathagangsta8880 yep I remember that situation but let's be real Jay did some shiesty Shit to he was all set to go on the tour then cancelled at the last moment ..I'm thinking that's when Jah had 50 on his ass..Jah spoke about it in a bet testimony...
@@drestathagangsta8880 I've never heard that lyor was doing shit like that ..I know he pulled Jay far away from everyone else and after he did that alot of record label owners like Irv got the feds on their ass..
This is the correct take probably. In the end they squashed the beef anyways. And both still thrive. But people still talking about this beef years later lol
I always wondered what happened with this. "Nas is lord of the projects 'til the coffins drop in the ocean like a Amistad slave overboat when It's a new day ya should be scared I'm back with Stoute Southside, Queensbridge, the hood's in here"
@@miked3281 just stop. There is NOTHING about ether that is good. The beat is WACK. and the lyrics are corny. All he does is call Jay names over a wack beat for 3 minutes 😂😂😂. Fuck outta here. Jay actually drops FACTS over a superior beat. Cut it out and do your homework. I'll school u
@@arizonaFIREent stop. You're reaching and just arguing for sake of arguing. Now don't answer my question with a question.... But with an answer... Tell me 2 lines in ether where you're like OH SHIT THAT WAS HARD!!!..... don't worry I'll wait
Personally, I think takeover is better cause Jay was spitting all facts. Ether was more opinionated insults...like you ugly, girls wasn't messing with you, dame stupid... etc. Ether was more of a lyrical symphony and all but Jay was saying real life shit...Nas had the better sounding song I guess. But Jay ain't make the whole song's energy about Nas either. To me, the beef resurrected nas career at the time. Nas was steadily declining since "it was written" to me
No wonder 50 killed ja and murder inc so easily. Gotti isn’t the guy you want in your corner during a beef. It’s wartime after Ether how do you co sign on super ugly?
Nah they sample a Knocturnal song that was produced by Dr. Dre. Knoc says at the beginning of said song "Super Ugly", him be the title of Jay's response
Let’s settle this: hit the 👍 if Ether was better or comment if Super Ugly was better. Nas completely got Jay lyrically on that track and guess what Vlod, he picked a dope beat.
@@starbutterfly4147 very true, jay-z is the best & very instrumental in Nas career. but jay never lost...ever only Was was able to touch him now look at both of them, still alive and all this constant growth.
Yo come to think of it, I think him trying to sign Nas while doing the beef with JAY got him black balled also from the Roc Nation side of things. If it wasnt for that, he couldve still made moves with JAY late 2000's till now
Nas on murder inc dont even sound right 😂😂😂😂
trabucks not at all, he don’t seem like he would fit in with them, Nas doesn’t seem like a group type of guy lol.
@@BigJordan92708 I agree, Nas is not only lyrically superior than most of his peers, he is also intellectually superior, so I definitely see him as a lone wolf type personality.
John MoyaSODMG didn’t say he wasn’t in a group, I said he doesn’t seem like a group guy, Nas wasn’t known for a group guy either, he’s known for basically being dolo.
Agreed. When I first heard that Nas was flirting with the idea of joining Murda Inc I was like "What are you doing Nas?"
@@MrMuis06 sorta like Kawhi Leonard
Irv be looking like all that ecstasy never wore off
eklipsta lmaooo 😂😂
Bruh u ain't lying 😂
he is still high and gets high you can tell by how he acts and moves how he swallows and fidgets eye movement etc
😂🤦😂🤦😂😂😂 Facts!
Funniest shit I heard today🤣🤣🤣.
Just because Carmen slept with Jay doesn't make Nas weak... It just shows how women get when you turn your back Michelle
Bitchs in this country have been though from a early age they can do whatever they want with their bodies it's no one's business and they shouldn't have any regrets about a damn thing ..
Go*😎
@@mxsalm real shit
@@mxsalm Carmen and Nas werent even together when Jay smashed. Sloppy seconds isnt a good look, more like obsesssion.
I didn't think nas was weak cuz of that.I say nas was weak cuz he made peace & worked 4 J who disrespected his daughter.Wut kinda bitch ass nigga does that!?!? No way in hell u gonna diss my family & we cool afterwards.
That’s why nas backed out ...he knew that would cause a rift between jay and irv... chess move.. pay attention
Chess move my ass!! Lol
It ain’t that deep
Y'all niggas needa get off Nas dick sometimes
@@CustomFitted I say that about Jay lots of times.
Bruh. Stfu. Nas hated jay. He would’ve done it for that reason alone. You trying to be on some spiritual shit but sound stupid.
Carmen was happy she was mentioned on super ugly who she tryna lie to 😂😂😂
Ya mama ugly.
@@superspunkboyy8909 👌
LOL! word right
Irv can come off odd and irritating sometimes, but he hilarious and also I gotta respect this man’s efforts that he put into the culture. Definitely a creative genius. Salute 💯
yea he def a dude i'd chill wit occasionally seem annoying af after awhile
U still feel like that? Lmaoo
Nas won the battle by technical knockout! 😂😂😂 Jay's mom stopped the fight and said jay cant continue!😂 special guest referee gloria carter🤣🤣🤣
Sosa Ruhinda 😀😀😁
Lol fair and square
Supa ugly third verse destroyed everything nas said on ether. Just coz a bunch of women got upset doesn’t make it wack.
What TKO? Jay hit nas below the belt 😹 and the fight had to be stopped
C'mon savage but is facts
Ether is a classic...
No one is saying
"damn that rapper got takeover'd"
Very good point.
Hilarious!!
But they do say "smarted up Nas"
@@Milo63071 Who says that?? I never heard that from rappers or outside peeps.
Look,nas & j bof pussies so no biased here only facts & I've heard people say "U got ethered" & "It's the takeover".
20 years later that Ether turnin y'all into MC Shan 😂😂 take ya L & cry in the dark
Ya. But i don't think J'$ crying about it. If he is, im sure he has some Benny's too wipe his eyes with. Haha. Lmao
@@herbiehusker4624 Yea he shed all his tears on his Interview with Angie Martinez after the battle. Just traces of salt under his eyes now
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!! SALUTE, this so needed to be said!!!!!
RIGHT LOL!
In my opinion Ether over the take over all day
Super ugly was definitely an emotional response by Jay & it lost him the battle & the war..shit was done after Ether...
That Guy How JayZ lose ‘the war’ when he was eventually Nas’ boss (as president of Def Jam). That man was signing Nas’ checks so that man could eat and pay his child support, bruh. 😂
@@sweetjones7631
You must not pay attention to well...Nas & Jay had a joint venture which precluded Nas signing to Def Jam...& what the fuck does that have to do with the battle idiot?
@@sweetjones7631 lol. Why are u making things up?? L. A. Reid was Nas boss and was signing both Nas and Jay's checks. Was Nas signed to Roc Nation?? Do some research and stop listening to fake narratives.
@@willsmooth1355 I thought j was nas boss? Either way nas pussy ass made amends after j dissed his daughter🤦♂️.J a lame but damn nas a super lame.
No he wasnt. LAReid was nas's boss. Nas declined presidency role at Atlantic records and LA reid paid nas north of 10 milly in bonus money (not advanced money) Those who know pretty much knows. But yall can keep talking fallacies so keep on cooking with that fake narrative😭😭😭
Jay knew He had to come hard, he was going up against Nas..🤷🏽♂️ The only thing is he wasn’t a better MC and got bodied
factory
Super ugly was a better song in anything in that battle.
Jay had the whole industry behind him and I remember nas rant on the radio and nobody wanted to play his diss record the streets definitely help nas in that regard
Imo Takeover is the greatest diss track ever made.
Sug S be real with yourself man. Go listen to no vaseline and I’m sure you heard of hit’em up than come back and make a new comment brother
ETHER killed Takeover and super ugly....
And blueprint 2 killed all that
Yep. After Ether, it was all over. Nothing else mattered.
LRNA killed blueprint 2 and ended it all.
"I was scarface and jay was Manolo and it killed me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo."
By far
false
I know it's hard to admit BUT jay lost... Nas put hands an feet on him!!
Lost the battle but definitely not the war
@@droski9615 Stop wit the sideways talk...He lost straight up!
@@dj1835 his shit was all bunch of insults, Jay came back with facts
Nas said nothing special.please quote some vicious lines that nas.this nigga said "cock a fella records" 😒🤦 he said the man had dick sucking lips 🤔🤔very suspect.nas said some wack ass shit but hov came with one verse of straight facts and 🔥🔥
@@droski9615 False. Ether was filled with facts which is why Jay was shook after Ether dropped. Why would Jay be upset with childish insults?
Nas played Irv & Jay against each other and broke up their friendship. Chess move!😎
Jay and Irv got together with the show “Tales” lol
Jay don’t have shit to do with that show.. Don’t even try it.
That shit never looked right Nas with Murder Inc
That’s like when Mobb Deep went with G-Unit
But Mobb Deep kind of had beef with the same people as 50 Cent, so in a way, it’s like “ My enemy ‘s enemy is my friend “ Type Of mentality...
Okay, I stated that they kind of had beef with the same certain individuals, so that kind of drew them together... That’s not spreading rumors... What are we, little kids ? Are we gonna get into a back and forth comment war about something that happened about 2 decades ago, between rappers ?
True
Just like when M.O.P was with G-Unit it didn’t look right
Jay making Super Ugly was desperation at that point. Ether was burning him slowly
Both these dudes are delusional Takeover is cool but we all know Ether had Jay shaking in his S dots lol 😂
But what about super Ugly
1 year 30 ups... YOU'RE delusional takeover is superior!! Period
1 year 30 ups... YOU'RE delusional takeover is superior!! Period
@@charliebrown9489 I know Jay-Z is like your fucking idol or some shit but Ether was infinitely better than Takeover
@@lukethykim9964 Ether had a bunch of corny, childish disses. It’s mad overrated.
I swear Vlad talks more about Nas than any other human being ever in existence
Besides suge 😂
“Some say Hate is confused admiration” -Nas
That’s cause he will never get Nas or Eminem to do an interview on his show. Both Emcees hates his guts.
Nas killed Jay on Either , case closed !
*ether
Either? When that drop?
Plus he gets money off that record no lie so imo he won
Nah
😂😂
Ether left a lot of carnage behind! LOL.
Nas played chess
Pat big facts
How?... When Jay won in the long term....
@@ctcmonk won? Because he married the biggest pop star in music and uses her star power to get what he wants.
@@ricosalvaje5802 nope...won bc Nas signed to Jay after...
@@harvident5703 nigga that's business something most niggaz can't understand ..was Nas supposed to be stuck in some emotional state over a rap beef he didn't even want ..Nas didn't want the beef dude wasn't even feeling hip hop at the time his mother was dying of cancer and niggaz took shots at the kid..Nas didn't stress shit about a bitch that's why ether hit so hard he destroyed Jay with straight up facts ..yrs later u think both men who are father's and got big Bill should be still beefing hell yeah he signed with Jay Jay gave Nas and Jim Jones great deals ..Jay has always respected Nas talents ..
Takeover was a Mobb Deep dis with Nas thrown in like an afterthought. Nas had Jay off kilter from the beginning.
envyops it was a mob deep diss, the nas verse was a response to the stillmatic freestyle nas did.
Takeover never stood a chance against ether.
It’s really takeover vs stillmatic ether vs takeover
exactly, that shit did more damage to P than anything. nas came back and crushed him.
Now the “blueprint 2” track on the blueprint 2 album that’s what jay should’ve put out first. But the damage was done already. Jay just sounded desperate. Even though that’s my shit.
@@judahmourneth3211 Can't y'all see that he's fake, the rap version of td Jakes, prophesizin on your cds and tapes.
@@judahmourneth3211 stillmatic freestyle came out after takeover
Vlad doesnt understand what Irv was saying bout being brothers and beef.
Exactly, Irv was on another level in this and Vlad doesn't understand.
Vlad don't understand hip hop period
Nah, “The Take Over” was dope but “Ether” was way harder IMO
Imo takeover was lyrically superior. Ether was a solid diss but not as great as made out
@@sugs1191 how was takeover lyrically superior?? on ether nas was coming at jay z at every angle
@@gocards2369 im not sure you know what lyricism means. Gay Z, cock afella and like an aids test not positive - is actually weak lyricism albeit sloppy
I dont care if you mobb deep, i hold triggers to crews/cruise. You little f() ck I got money stacks bigger than you.
That is real lyricism. Ether was nowhere near as lyrical as the takeover.
@@sugs1191 what did he say in takeover all he did was flaunt his money like every rapper does in a beef.
@@saucegodnas7318 lol. U never listened properly to the takeover then.
Ether was better than take over
"I gave you power" is a top 5 track of all time, that song is in the same category as "Stan" and i got that from Busta, he was right, those are 2 songs that just blow your mind
Facts
Yeah true ..
Nas had a couple like that like “rewind” was another one
Nas The Lost Tapes Vol.2 Production Line Up Is Too Much For Vlad To Handle.....
Who on the joint?
@@cm725 Pete Rock, Statik Selektah [Who's Song With Nas Plays During The Trailer People Think It's Kanye West But It's Not] Kanye West, RZA, No ID, Pharrell, Swizz Beatz, And Many Others....It Drops On July 19th.
@@cm725 Matter Fact If You Haven't Peep The Trailer On Mass Appeal UA-cam Page Or Nas Instagram Page.
@@cm725 Nigga EVERYBODY and they momma on tht jawn cuzzin ITS BOUT TO GO DWN 🙏💪😂🔥🔥🔥
@@fairplayterrific147 That shit unbelievable
Super ugly was EMOTIONAL 😭 ....Takeover was mainly aimed at Mobb Deep....Ether is what happens when a Virgo is pushed to the limit...
Jay z could have had the best producer in the world and nas would have still abducted jay Zs soul
Fuck out here nas lost that beef with hov
Nas bodied Jay Z on ether, I dont wanna hear no shit.
Divide and conquer, Nas was slick like that back then!
Symha Syn Nas said keep your friends close enemies closer
@@kingnanaTV ua-cam.com/video/Fs5vpagu8pI/v-deo.html
Bet ya he never even considered to sign to Murda, just saw an oppertunity to drive a wedge between Jay and Irv.
Say what you want Irv a genius business man.
How, if he can't get Jay Z to speak for him? 🤔
Nah he ain't a genius. He just got friends who got power who get him in meetings with the rite people
Beyond Beleef more of a genius than you if you hear talking about him in UA-cam comments
Beyond Beleef Bro, Irv’s name is etched in Ruff Ryders, Rocafella, Def Jam history, not to mention what he did wit Murder Inc. Irv got connections because he’s a genius, & ppl made so much money wit him
Jamal Thomas speak on it bro
Irv is like that one friend you have that’s always competing with you even when you’re not competing with him. Watch those friends!!!
I got a co worker like this and I want to beat on him pause
Sounds like to me Irv was partly the reason Jay lost that rap battle to Nas plus Irv put a strain between his brotherhood with Jay by trying to sign Nas. Stillmatic freestyle was still way better than Super Ugly even if they didn’t compare it to Ether 🤷🏽♂️
"I told Irv Gotti to to sign Nas"
~TK KIRKLAND ~
Ether is 10× better then takeover
3 D bandz hell nah the takeover is thee greatest diss song ever
@@seankelly4594 when someone loses a rap battle mainstream or underground they say he got ethered foh
DMCdaJUICE and so what literally every rap diss song since then has been a fact-based song takeover started the fact bass rap diss
@@stevenjp911 Exactly! Jay Only Had One Verse Entirely Aimed At Nas On "The Takeover" The Person You Responded To Should Understand Why Does He Think Irv Gotti Said "If He Knew People Was Comparing Super Ugly Against Ether He Would've Did Something Entirely Different" Irv Is Saying "The Takeover" Is Better Because Jay Z Is His Friend From Way Back When. Why Would He Not Jay Also Helped Him With The Deal On Getting His Show "Tales" On B.E.T....... Yo Much Props For That Statement.....
@@seankelly4594 you sound dumb
Jay-Z admitted he lost the battle after Ether, nuff said.
Jay won the war tho. Ether was dope, but as Nipsey Hussle says, life's a marathon. And J is still relevant music wise too this day. That's all im saying about that!
No he didn’t he just apologized for going at his BM
Herbie Husker that won the war comment is always lame considering Nas & Jay are both considered 2 of the best to ever do it. Both are very relevant to this day and both are crazy successful businessmen. Looking at what Nas has done with his investments you’ll see why Puff said “Nas what you doing on Silicon Valley you done out hustled ME” lol
World Newz - case closed.
Lmao 18 years later and people still in denial about takeover and ether😂😂😂😂😂😂
Takeover was a better song but it was a small shot at Nas.
Ether hit on all Jay's insecurities😭.
@@a.m.m.4592 I know thats my point even jay admitted he lost😂😂😂
@@geno7572 no he didn't...
Haks Hustle he said “cause even in defeat” on a record and in an interview he said the Takeover was supposed to be like the four figure leg lock you shouldn’t be able to escape that or get out of it implying that Nas did. Like I did my best but Nas still got out of it and dropped a bomb as Nas says
@@11bornrich yes he did he said it in the interview with nas and sway
Vlad be Hating on Nas heavily.
alfred fowler fr man
No way is “Take Over” better than “Ether”
M. THOUSANDS both songs classic
Personally, I think takeover is better cause Jay was spitting all facts. Ether was more opinionated insults...like you ugly, girls wasn't messing with you, dame stupid... etc. Ether was more of a lyrical symphony and all but Jay was saying real life shit...Nas had the better sounding song I guess. But Jay ain't make the whole song's energy about Nas either. To me, the beef resurrected nas career at the time. Nas was steadily declining since "it was written" to me
I’ll say it again like I’ve said a million times before... All you mf’s do is regurgitate everything y’all hear out of the Jay-Z dickriders mouths, there was one fact in Takeover! One! The rest were opinions...
SIDub14 ether all day
It seems muder inc and rocafella would've been the biggest labels
@Kam Mike ...word lol ALL the labels had their time but that shit come n go
With all due respect the Roc/Inc wasn't on the level of Death Row or Bad Boy
@Big Dog no limit master p label sold hella units
@@ncnyc4418 all the labels have had their time. Scary thing is Cash Money Records has been been relevant the whole time. The label For me? "Death Row is the label that pays me!"
@@herbiehusker4624 cash money still around cuz birdman finessed everybody everytime
Jay Z making Super Ugly was a bad decision
Enlightenment Channel why
@osher naim they're talking about their relationship with each other and trying to react in a professional manner when certain songs came out, it wasn't about being successful
Naw...Jay Z fucking with Nas was a bad decision!
W A takeover was better then either, jay z picked on nas for a reason. Go back to the gift in the Curse
@@lifegoeson497 learn the difference between either and ETHER. the track will make a lot more sense
I always compared ether to take over not super ugly! Irv trippen 🤦🏽♂️
Nas easily won no comparison
Gotta learn to live with regrets 🎵🎧
I love Ether, Nas always will be fine! 💯💯💯💯
You like ether, i like you . Can we make it work?
You love ether. I love you. Can we make it work?
lol everybody and they mama knows ether killed takeover. It became a urban slang. “He Ethered” you
Facts
Yea u are right but nas let j disrespect his daughter when he peaced it out & started workin 4 j.They bof suckaz!!!
Mark Mercado hey listen, if he allowed him to talk about his daughter then that means he knew was he was getting into engaging in this beef.
@@markmercado89 You are an idiot. LA reid was Nas boss. You millenials are lazy. Do some actual research on how that whole def jam contract went down. Jay stans still struggling with ether. Let it go😂😂😂😂
Of course VLAD gon say he thinks TAKEOVER IS BETTER THAN ETHER🤨...IT IS NOT VLAD but the status that Jay is in now compared to NAS😤💯
Exactly! That Godfrey Interview He Did Is Proof Of Your Statement Holding Weight....
Takeover is a better song(sonically), Ether is the better diss(lyrically).
Antoine Ferrell takeover sounded like trash either way lol
@@randomcharacter6501 ether is not lyrical. There's nothing lyrical in ether! DSL, cockafella, y'all rock fellas please
@@radarinfinite1032 DSL= Jay had a penchant for using people for his come up. From Klein to Jaz to BIG... Cockafella = Naming themselves after Rockefeller is actually kinda questionable. It shows they were lost as black men by putting white wealth on a pedestal. But that's what happens when you take Nas at face value. Besides that what Nas was saying was facts that's why there's no Jay track addressing Ether the way he addressed H to the Omo.
Nas said “keep your friends close but enemies closer y’all don’t pay attention to lyrics smfh 😂😂😂
Nas said many years ago that he read The Art of War.
Takeover and the Blueprint 2 diss was tough . Most ppl sleep on Jay bars on that track.
This nigga said Blueprint 2, the tracc that Jay himself said he lost the battle in😂😂😂😂😂
The Blueprint 2 bars are 🔥🔥🔥
Irv Gotti is a Hip Hop Legend. If it wasn’t for him we wouldn’t have a lot of late 90s and early 00s hits
💯💯💯
Bro other people made all those beats get your mind right
@@FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezitAre you taking Irv Gotti productions off from Hiphop history?
@@DizzyMakavelli bro check it for yourself. There was other ppl behind the scenes actually making most of those beats. He was more like a p diddy
@@FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezit Nah dude, IRV was pushing the buttons.
Irv was using the drum machine.
Don’t try to discredit the man.
He’s not Khaled.
3:18 JAY-Z LOST GET OVER IT!
Lost what? Dude might not be a better story teller, but he's def a happier man today. And that's the real war we rage in life. Fuck a 4 min song, jays sitting in the top 3 strong.
Happier man?? Because he has more money?? Please tell me that this is a joke right?? You have no idea who is the happier dude.
@@willsmooth1355 no i don't Will Snatch i mean smooth. Just look at his life. His choices, his mistakes, his strong loving wife. And in our society, its ok too live good when you earn the funds too do so. Cant you read peoples body language? . The guy is winning in life. A diss song burn doesn't deny that fact Willie. All in all, id say ether is my favorite of the song mentioned
, one of the biggest lies in Hip Hop. Nas Ether is better then the Takeover
Ether>Takeover
Jayz admitted he lost, the majority picked ether over takeover by a landslide. Please just drop this joke of an opinion, it's been over.
They did a vote and ether won. While Jz was the higher selling artist. That means ether was better, period
@@PCSPITTER4NY Ether wins because everyone's tools....
Jay dissed his whole being......and his career(which is what Im more concerned with during a beef) Nas angrily ranted about him being ugly and insecure.....
“Spongebob is my brother. I love him”
The pledge remix is one of my favorite songs well done. I’m glad you made that Record
ETHER SPOKE FOR ITSELF!!! STILLMATIC ALL DAY!!
I was locked up when ether dropped jails went crazy everbody had they walkman on
Nas won fool.
How could u not know super ugly would be pitted against ether? C'mon, i call bs
Yea he full of shit. They thought they had that beef won but it was a dud that Nas didn't even have to respond to.
...hmmm, perhaps you weren't (around) back then. It was a frenzy, sheer madness; without any social media and other technology. Jay hit with TAKEOVER like mid-to-late summer; Nasir didn't hit back until months later-- early December with ETHER. (Nas had a few mixtapes verses here and thete). Jay hit and countered with the spitfire truth of SUPERUGLY the very next day. Of course the media being the media and fans and spectators alike--- put ETHER up against SUPER UGLY because they were so close in their releases to the public--- who were fienin' and raging over the two Titans. Yes, I am a bit biased with the two--- I put HOV over NAS, moreover for his consistency, beat selections, ability to create on the spot, flow, lyrics, business acumen, philanthropic efforts, his truth in what he spits-- his growth, etc. Huge fact; he too, is from BROOKLYN, NY, USA
Lol. Jay is not as consistent as nas when it comes to songs and albums. Jay has a good amount of duds with Vol 3 being his 1st one followed by bp2, KC,Bp3, and that hot garbage MCHG. Hov still in my top 4 but no he aint consistent at all.
Nas Is Better Than Jay Z Lyrically PERIOD! "STILLMATIC" (FREESTYLE) Is Underrated Out Of The Diss Records....
Better then jay lyrically nah b
Fairplay Terrific what up nasty nas ain’t nothing bunch cowards frontin I’m bout to smoke them cowards though it’s stillmatic👍🏽
Hell ya Nas is better lyrically!!! That’s a SUPER FUCK
@@SHARPEYE1 Yo Trust Jay Is Nice But Man Nas Takes It There....
Fairplay Terrific no bullshit there’s times I like nas more and times I like jay more
I still bang that "The Pledge" joint til this day. People sleep on Irv's producer skills, even though it was a sample.
That pledge remix my shit! The Ashanti and tah one str8 too.
I swear Irv's energy through camera screams SHIESTY bro lol, he just comes off as one of those dudes.
Irv is not admitting his motives in wanting to sign Nas. I remember an interview Irv did years ago where he was salty at his "brother" Jay Z for being the reason why Irv's dream supergroup with Jay/DMX/Ja rule never came to fruition. Jay was the first one to quit the group. Then, Irv spoke on his unhappiness with Jay when he quit a huge tour featuring himself, Ja Rule and Puff Daddy to headline the Sprite Liquid Mix tour on his own. So Irv knew what he was doing when he was working with Nas by trying to stick it to Jay. But it backfired.
Dresta tha Gangsta He also said that when Murder Inc starting blowing up Jay got to be dismissive of them.
@@HS32153 Jay only got dismissive of them because Lyor Cohen at Def Jam was getting into his and everyone's heads at that time. Rocafella, Ruff Ryders and Murda Inc were ALL moving units for the Def Jam back then and it was always friendly competition. All 3 labels were close at this time. But it turned sour when Lyor started pitting the labels against each other and that's when beefs started forming between each other. Irv spoke on this as well. Lyor pulled the divide and conquer tactic.
@@drestathagangsta8880 yep I remember that situation but let's be real Jay did some shiesty Shit to he was all set to go on the tour then cancelled at the last moment ..I'm thinking that's when Jah had 50 on his ass..Jah spoke about it in a bet testimony...
@@drestathagangsta8880 I've never heard that lyor was doing shit like that ..I know he pulled Jay far away from everyone else and after he did that alot of record label owners like Irv got the feds on their ass..
JAY Z WAS NEVER EVER GOING TO DESTROY NAS, NOT EVEN TODAY!!!!!!!!!!
Vlad you're a nas hater! Nas ate Jay up with ether
Nah...as a Jay-Z fan....there was nothing Jay could have done to out do Ether musically. What he did going forward was definitely a win.
This is the correct take probably. In the end they squashed the beef anyways. And both still thrive. But people still talking about this beef years later lol
No surprise Vlad like take over over ether... even tho nas totally exposed jay z with ether...
only he didn't
@@WizardDick yea. vlad might of been referring to takeover being better then super ugly. so a misunderstanding on my part.
He exposed what?? He was cracking jokes...Hov shit was facts💯
U need to listen to ether again and pay attention. Hov wouldnt cry like a bitch on hot 97 over some jokes.😭😭😭😭
Jay-z, Still Help Irv. With B.E.T.'s. Tales series
I gave you power was a incredible song
And super creative at the same time!!!
NAS PLAYED YOU FOOL....
He got at JAY through you ..
You hurt JAY feeling and now y’all are not friends anymore ..
NAS played you G
Glad, you're buggin'. "Either" is waaaay better than "Takeover" but I could understand why U like that one better.
Never have regrets in life ... that's how life plays
I always wondered what happened with this. "Nas is lord of the projects 'til the coffins drop
in the ocean like a Amistad slave overboat when
It's a new day ya should be scared I'm back with Stoute
Southside, Queensbridge, the hood's in here"
the pledge remix is still fire
Takeover is 10000x better than ether. Ether the most over rated dis track of all time
David Dixon you smoking hella crack fam ether killed takeover
@@miked3281 just stop. There is NOTHING about ether that is good. The beat is WACK. and the lyrics are corny. All he does is call Jay names over a wack beat for 3 minutes 😂😂😂. Fuck outta here. Jay actually drops FACTS over a superior beat. Cut it out and do your homework. I'll school u
David Dixon I wouldn’t say ether is whack, but it is over-rated as hell. Bunch of middle school level insults from a supposed intellectual
@@Edward.E.Nigma. take over is overrated regardless Jays lines were ehhhh at best
@@arizonaFIREent stop. You're reaching and just arguing for sake of arguing. Now don't answer my question with a question.... But with an answer... Tell me 2 lines in ether where you're like OH SHIT THAT WAS HARD!!!..... don't worry I'll wait
Personally, I think takeover is better cause Jay was spitting all facts. Ether was more opinionated insults...like you ugly, girls wasn't messing with you, dame stupid... etc. Ether was more of a lyrical symphony and all but Jay was saying real life shit...Nas had the better sounding song I guess. But Jay ain't make the whole song's energy about Nas either. To me, the beef resurrected nas career at the time. Nas was steadily declining since "it was written" to me
Vlad is not gonna interview a person if he can't talk about NAS🤣..#HATER
EITHER is King!
People, don’t get it twisted. The majority of hip-hop heads, say Ether was better.
Even the rocafella crew said ether was better. Camron and petey said ether was better.
This is an interview im looking forward to droppin fully cause every vid i have my opinion in which other interviews idgaf about period
"THE PLEDGE" WENT HARD 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Ether was way better. Everybody no dat nas, won the battle.
I just realized Irv has a long head (pause) Look at it when they do the side camera view. 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
No wonder 50 killed ja and murder inc so easily. Gotti isn’t the guy you want in your corner during a beef. It’s wartime after Ether how do you co sign on super ugly?
I' m with Vlad , " Super Ugly " was a mix of different beats Jay rapped on right ?
Nah they sample a Knocturnal song that was produced by Dr. Dre. Knoc says at the beginning of said song "Super Ugly", him be the title of Jay's response
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I cant lie, I'm loving this Irv interviews
nas spit one of his best verses on the pledge
Takeover eneded Mobb Deep career still to this day
Blueprint 2 was the proper response track for either, jay spoke nothing But facts
Gawd it was little too late, the damage was done. That’s my shit too but jay sounded too desperate
Facts that blueprint 2 was omg stright facts
He regrets it now because Nas did not sign. If it was like that with him and Jay he would not have ever tried to sign Nas
Look how happy Irv got when Vlad knew about a episode of tales
Just because Carmen slept with Jay doesn't make Nas weak... It just shows how women get when you turn your back "Michelle"
"Take Over" isn't better than "Ether"
Yes it is. Ether is just gay jokes. Takeover is far deeper
@@ChromeTecNina How is that gay i bet you're one sus lol 😂😁🤣
Irv and Jay couldn’t destroy Ether or else they would’ve.
When Vlad says “Oh yeah, I’ve interviewed them” beware of flashbacks 🤦🏾♂️
You KNOW it's coming! LMAO
Let’s settle this: hit the 👍 if Ether was better or comment if Super Ugly was better. Nas completely got Jay lyrically on that track and guess what Vlod, he picked a dope beat.
Irv known Jay for 30 yrs A Billion $ later Jay doesn't know him anymore
Jay got him his show on bet a couple yrs ago
Jay still fuck with Irv u idiot lol use Google
@@DUMBOUT20 Jay has to give a nigga a show 50 cent really destroyed that man smh real bosses ain't got to ask Jay for nothing lol
Super Ugly showed us that Jay-Z didn't take loss or failure well instead, he played dirty & look at Nas right now that boy "Shining"
rashad salaam Look at Jay tho hip hops first billionaire he shining more than nas ever could.
@@starbutterfly4147 very true, jay-z is the best & very instrumental in Nas career. but jay never lost...ever only Was was able to touch him now look at both of them, still alive and all this constant growth.
Yo come to think of it, I think him trying to sign Nas while doing the beef with JAY got him black balled also from the Roc Nation side of things. If it wasnt for that, he couldve still made moves with JAY late 2000's till now
I think he's with Roc Nation now. He had a Roc chain on Drink Champs.
@@westernuranda6252 Salute to you
Nas is too laid back to be under Murder Inc so I'm glad that didn't work