Here's this show off clown again. What he think he know's about electrics wouldn't fill an egg cup. Basic electrics for god's sake. Loves himself so much.
Has Chris offended you in the past, Roy? I’ve seen you comment on some of his other videos and can’t understand why you would bother watching if you feel superior to him.
If you don't love yourself ,you cannot love others .You will not be able to love others . If you have no compassion for yourself then you are not able to of developing compassion for others. That's the Delai Lama that is.
I don't know why this was recommended when im a bin man looking at dustcarts haven't got a clue what your talking about but found it interesting and entertaining im hooked great video stay safe 👍
I went to a new extention done by old Bob the builder to replace white sockets with brushed chrome. I found the ring circuit wired in 1.5mm on a type b 32a mcb. Told client the good news....she had a complete melt down when I told her it was dangerous and to contact Bob and the gang and her solicitor. Great video btw and to see you know your stuff especially testing the circuits before the board is disconnected and removed 👍
I'm a bricklayer so I've really no idea why I watched this? And I not even going to pretend that i understood any of it! 🤣 But I'll watch a few more videos anyway. 😎
I'm a spark and I've learned more from these types of videos than I did from my tradesmen! If you watch a few of these you'll get a basic understanding in no time, I always think it's a good thing to get a rough understanding of this electrical stuff
Take a sparky out for a pint...he’ll tell you about ring finals, loops, CPC, mcb’s, RCD’s, different cables, consumer units and.......if you want a laf...landing lights.
I'm a sparky and have watched a fare few bricklaying videos. Find the whole trade quite chilled and satisfying. In fact, trades that impress me most in order, bricklaying, joinery, electrical, plastering, decorating, cleaning, plumbing
Top top video really good for young sparks to learn as well. Patience and being methodical these jobs are where you learn the most and this is the kind of experience that you need that will pay off for future jobs, definitely worth spending your time on this job even if it takes longer than you expected.
Well done there mate! I’m a controls engineer on industrial machinery, fault finding looks a lot more difficult when everything’s buried in the house! And random junction boxes, who ordered those!! 🕺🏽🍻🍻
I once lived in an apartment complex where there was an old lady who had mild dementia. She got up in the middle of the night and rode her bike around town for reasons no one could understand and she fiddled with the circuit breaker box feeling it had strange powers. The landlord had to get a lock just to keep her out.
well done fellas...I'm retired now after 48 years, good to see " proper" sparks at work rather than "part P Percy's" as we used to call them. i used to draw a floor plan and note readings on it as i went around the property.....saved repeating tests, also found an R2 lead invaluable at times, i have subscribed now so keep up the good work and humour, (miss my old mate Keith for that)
Absolutely love your videos. I'm an automotive electrician, I've done a bit of wiring in the house but my god your videos really give me an idea of how little I actually know lol
I'm a 72 year old semi retired American electrician and boxes over here are supposed to be accessible unless the home owner deems that there now a qualified electrician and then creative wiring begins. In my 50 plus years I have made a lot of money on creative wiring. It continues as I speak. One example was the landlord that went into the creative wiring mode and had the neutral and hot on the same side of outlet and couldn't understand why the breaker tripped. Great video.
I thought my 1960s built house had bad electrics with only 3 fuses for the whole house but its far neater than that great video i will upgrade mine at some point think it needs it
Yeah buried junction boxes! It’s the worst, found a ton in the new house ended up moving them into new hidden locations so I could install them into single or double gang wall box and cap off. At least I don’t have to deal with rings over here! Good job, sorry James letting us down with the socks!!!!
Yep, I so sympathise, I'm in the middle of sorting what should have been a simple outdoor light install which has turned into "Guess the circuit" because all the wiring has been done by multiple DIY enthusiasts over many years and theres spurs from spurs, multiple cables going to random MCBs, it's a shambles!
How absolutely maddening that must've been. Admittedly I knew nothing about your wiring codes before this other than knowing your standard current was 230v so learning about ring circuits was pretty cool. Tell me, is hiding inaccessable boxes in the framing a legit thing to do? Anyway, thanks for the great content. cheers.
It's frowned upon. Not the done thing on new install although nothing technically wrong,but it can get you out of a pickle on a repair. It can't be a screw terminal joint, has to be a "permanent" connection ie crimp/ soldered / compression. Also if its buried in a wall it has to be horizontal or vertical to an accessory so it would fall into a "zone"
This reminds me of some dodgy electrics at my parents old place. When an extension was built they run one set of sockets off an upstairs bedoom! Also the shower pump could've run 5 showers (like the type you have in commercial gyms or swimming pools). Was a total nightmare!
Once more our intrepid heroes succeed wear others have failed. The sad reality is the cowboys out number the good guys. Still you’ll never be out of work , but it does mean you’ll spend a large part of your life putting other people’s crap right 😂😂😂 can’t wait to see what other crimes have been committed for you to solve. Best wishes as always 👍
Brilliant videos and very educational. With respect to down lighters, when should they be fire rated and what areas should they be fitted ? And is there a reference in the 18th edition to it ?
12:27 - It's funny because most sparks I come across think they're "spreads" "chippies" "structural engineers" "architects" "kitchen fitters" "decorators" just about anything, except none of them think they're plumbers hahaha!!!!
Great insightful video... A question on what you would do in this situation regards to charging the customer? Is this something you would write off and come back and install the CU on another day at your expense or would you discuss with the client and charge for that day?
Any reason you don't use a telephone line tone generator connected at the board? You can hear the tone through the wall (assuming the cable isn't MICC or in conduit)... Where the tone stops you find the break. Best £15 I ever spent - saves HOURS.
Great fault finding lads, bit like this house I'm working on presently, some donkey buried a junction box in the plaster!! Ye gods...why do they do it!!
At a neighbours' house over 25 years ago a dining room extension had been added and they'd split the ring to connect to sockets on either side of the extension but had just left it as two 2.5mm² radials on a 30A fuse. And at a current neighbour's house the cowboys who did the loft conversion ran all the sockets via an RCD FCU on the end of the unused immersion heater cable.
Normally a batten screwed underneath I use the Armeg solid board cutter all you do is drop a plastic plug back in when your finished as there’s a rim for the plug to fit in so it’s always accessible and you can write on the plug what’s below the floor
thats correct - my so called step dad who thought was great - put the cooker on the lights RCD ring and wonder why it kept tripping all the time. then the real electricians came and shouted when they needed to do a survey... and shouted HELP!!!! The electrics in this house is SHODDY!!!
Hi Chris i had live in Cornwall and needed a electrician i contacted Hendra Electrices. the guy Adam came and did the job and in conversation with him , i said i watch you on UA-cam , he said he met you at electrical fair . , he won some tools from you
It's because of structures like this that ALL Canadian Wiring (with VERY, VERY few exceptions) MUST be done after a Permit has been pulled by either a Licensed Electrical Contractor OR (for Residences) the Home Owner (Not the Tenant, the OWNER) and then Inspected by a City/County Electrical Inspector who then Closes the Permit IF the work is up to Code OR tells you off, maybe writes a Ticket/Fine and tells yo to fix it if it isn't up to Code... People that do work requiring a Permit WITHOUT a Permit can get HUGE Fines AND be forced to pull everything apart so the Inspector can see what was done (at their own expense of course)... ALWAYS GET THE PERMITS!!! Inspectors are NOT your enemy! Their Job is to tell you if the work you've done is safe or could cause the home to burn down (Electrical), mold/rot (Plumbing), blow up (Gas/HVAC) or fall down (Structural)...AND they keep you from having to make VERY Expensive repairs in the near future due to bad work as well as keep the Insurance Companies from being able to deny any Claims due to shoddy, Illegal work... Compared to that, Permits are CHEAP!!!
are junction boxs hidden in a floor like that allowed by code there? i know in canada its a big no no to have them loose let alone not accesablle like that
James needs to read the company dress code requirements that simply states "That all socks must be of multi-color and / or pattern, per approval of management." 👍🍺
19:14 are those spiders legs? Euggggh, have you ever had a fear of spiders, because I think subconsciously that may have prevented me from pursuing my interest in an electrician’s career.
I find that at work you're to focused on the task at hand to worry, when I'm at home spiders freak me right out I can't stand them but at work I've had bites and had them crawling on me dangling Infront of my face and it doesnt phase me whatsoever until later on when I remember it and then it creeps me out 😅
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan We have exceptions for maintenance free joints... but they're very restrictive. and none of this met the requirements or even approached them. And as an aside, i lived in both the US and canada for a while (5 yrs in USA and 7 months in canada) and the accessibility of the wiring made me happy. Some of the standards of work i saw, notsomuch.* *i was allowed by code to work in the US according to the city i was working in, and in canada i helped out a friend in a province where DIY was allowed, so i'm not a codebreaker :) lol
Blackfinger 2 A proper ring doesn't need junction boxes, and anyway, Junction boxes under the floor are illegal here too. Only maintenance free connectors may be used unless easily accessible - but as we have already established there is no reason to use any kind of connector on a ring.
Would it have made sense to leave a loop of extra cable and rewire to the socket? Then if you have to you can add the wago box and if not you removed the joint completely
Here's this show off clown again.
What he think he know's about electrics wouldn't fill an egg cup.
Basic electrics for god's sake. Loves himself so much.
Has Chris offended you in the past, Roy? I’ve seen you comment on some of his other videos and can’t understand why you would bother watching if you feel superior to him.
I think Chris is amazing how he brings humour to days work and not so bloody stressful and serious, I’d love to work with him .
Lets see your work Roy.
If you don't love yourself ,you cannot love others .You will not be able to love others . If you have no compassion for yourself then you are not able to of developing compassion for others. That's the Delai Lama that is.
Roy went phishing and caught 5 so far
That was really interesting, more like this pls.
Yeas the though process and fault finding is invaluable!
I don't know why this was recommended when im a bin man looking at dustcarts haven't got a clue what your talking about but found it interesting and entertaining im hooked great video stay safe 👍
Excellent bit of fault finding. Enjoyed that one.
Great Video Chris... Just shows that these jobs dont always go smoothly. Always test first, save yourself a lot of grief !! 👍
At least these bodge jobs make good video content 👍
Excellent CJR. The sheer determination to do it right.
I went to a new extention done by old Bob the builder to replace white sockets with brushed chrome. I found the ring circuit wired in 1.5mm on a type b 32a mcb. Told client the good news....she had a complete melt down when I told her it was dangerous and to contact Bob and the gang and her solicitor. Great video btw and to see you know your stuff especially testing the circuits before the board is disconnected and removed 👍
I'm a bricklayer so I've really no idea why I watched this? And I not even going to pretend that i understood any of it! 🤣
But I'll watch a few more videos anyway. 😎
"Lucky trowel" the brickie lmao 😅
I'm a spark and I've learned more from these types of videos than I did from my tradesmen! If you watch a few of these you'll get a basic understanding in no time, I always think it's a good thing to get a rough understanding of this electrical stuff
Take a sparky out for a pint...he’ll tell you about ring finals, loops, CPC, mcb’s, RCD’s, different cables, consumer units and.......if you want a laf...landing lights.
I'm a sparky and have watched a fare few bricklaying videos. Find the whole trade quite chilled and satisfying. In fact, trades that impress me most in order, bricklaying, joinery, electrical, plastering, decorating, cleaning, plumbing
Board looks perfectly fine to me 🤣
Great vid as always. Great seeing how you fault find as I've just come into the trade, and how things should be done . 👍
Top top video really good for young sparks to learn as well. Patience and being methodical these jobs are where you learn the most and this is the kind of experience that you need that will pay off for future jobs, definitely worth spending your time on this job even if it takes longer than you expected.
Well done there mate!
I’m a controls engineer on industrial machinery, fault finding looks a lot more difficult when everything’s buried in the house! And random junction boxes, who ordered those!!
🕺🏽🍻🍻
Great fault finding, well done, yes CJR10
I once lived in an apartment complex where there was an old lady who had mild dementia. She got up in the middle of the night and rode her bike around town for reasons no one could understand and she fiddled with the circuit breaker box feeling it had strange powers. The landlord had to get a lock just to keep her out.
At least your customer can see from the video what you had to go through 👍
The best thing this spark and his apprentice do is the making good at the end of the work, a very underestimated art.
well done fellas...I'm retired now after 48 years, good to see " proper" sparks at work rather than "part P Percy's" as we used to call them. i used to draw a floor plan and note readings on it as i went around the property.....saved repeating tests,
also found an R2 lead invaluable at times, i have subscribed now so keep up the good work and humour, (miss my old mate Keith for that)
Vary satisfactorily to finally get there. However, as a very green spark, this makes me very nervous.
Builders are too funny. just running cables here there and everywhere
How are you guys wearing shorts, I'd be freezing!!! Great video as always!
He's balancing that out with three layers on the top half of the body ;=)
Absolutely love your videos. I'm an automotive electrician, I've done a bit of wiring in the house but my god your videos really give me an idea of how little I actually know lol
I bet you've seen some bodgery yourself in your time
@@luviskol oh like you wouldn't believe.
Loving the lash ups there.
Consumer unit cover not on properly = back in the van.
Great fault finding yet again, thanks for sharing.
I loved watching this, well done and thank you.
How long do you go before you say to customer....
“Sorry, get your chequebook out”
I was absolutely stoked when you got continuity on the cpc!
Very good work, hope customer appreciates they are a lot safer.
Thanks for sharing.
I'm a 72 year old semi retired American electrician and boxes over here are supposed to be accessible unless the home owner deems that there now a qualified electrician and then creative wiring begins. In my 50 plus years I have made a lot of money on creative wiring. It continues as I speak. One example was the landlord that went into the creative wiring mode and had the neutral and hot on the same side of outlet and couldn't understand why the breaker tripped. Great video.
Great video guys.... Excellent fault finding
Glad I watched this now. I sometimes think it's just who gets shite like this.
And this is why a good trade costs money! Mashed my head watching let alone doing... great video chaps
👍
I thought my 1960s built house had bad electrics with only 3 fuses for the whole house but its far neater than that great video i will upgrade mine at some point think it needs it
:"losing the will to live on this one"... funny... made me laugh... been there before on projects (not electrical)
Good vid mate straight in no messing about no bs. What we come here too see ! Good content
Chris. Mind your feet on those “Jesus” carpet grippers.😎😂😂👍🏻
Yeah buried junction boxes! It’s the worst, found a ton in the new house ended up moving them into new hidden locations so I could install them into single or double gang wall box and cap off. At least I don’t have to deal with rings over here! Good job, sorry James letting us down with the socks!!!!
OMG - what a nightmare! Well done on your first set of troubleshooting.
Some man Chris, never give up
Builders and electrics what a combination 😩
Wow that was quick
I'm neither.. from watching your videos Any of my DIY takes pride. It seems trades get lazy 😦😦
So do I class myself as both 🤷♂️
Cracking video as usual Chris 👍
From what I’ve seen your more electrician than builder. Normal builders install the consumer unit with a lump hammer.
Makes a change from blaming DIY'ers!!!
Gotta love builders retro fit shit...lashed in!!
I love the improvise using the gas pipe to hold your metre love it
Job satisfaction on these types of jobs - hard work but nice when you can find the faults 👍 top video
Yep, I so sympathise, I'm in the middle of sorting what should have been a simple outdoor light install which has turned into "Guess the circuit" because all the wiring has been done by multiple DIY enthusiasts over many years and theres spurs from spurs, multiple cables going to random MCBs, it's a shambles!
Keep up the good work Chris and don’t let the haters get to you, they only hate because they can’t do better.
Don’t forget the code next time James, BUNDY10
Was going to say exact same thing!
BUNDY10 is the discount code for Kopex?
That hanging dead spider at the beginning really put me on edge 🤣🤣
Sneaky hands free continuity there to prove me wrong Chris 😃😂
👌🏻
Finish Hoovering up and them make like the Shepherd and GET THE FLOCK OUT OF THERE!!!
Bloody hell well done mate. My head still hurts watching that lol
Great video Chris!! Love this kind of content.
James you're going to have up your socks game 😆😆😆
Mate those ferret cams are a life safer, ive only used mine a handful of times, but it has more than paid itself back in those few times
How absolutely maddening that must've been.
Admittedly I knew nothing about your wiring codes before this other than knowing your standard current was 230v so learning about ring circuits was pretty cool. Tell me, is hiding inaccessable boxes in the framing a legit thing to do?
Anyway, thanks for the great content. cheers.
It's frowned upon. Not the done thing on new install although nothing technically wrong,but it can get you out of a pickle on a repair. It can't be a screw terminal joint, has to be a "permanent" connection ie crimp/ soldered / compression. Also if its buried in a wall it has to be horizontal or vertical to an accessory so it would fall into a "zone"
This reminds me of some dodgy electrics at my parents old place. When an extension was built they run one set of sockets off an upstairs bedoom! Also the shower pump could've run 5 showers (like the type you have in commercial gyms or swimming pools). Was a total nightmare!
Another enjoyable video.
You always go on about poor plug sockets . What makes a good plug socket? or can you recommend any ?
A classic example of "why the rest of the world doesn't use ring final circuits" 😉
Chasing broken earths on radials isn't that much more fun though... still, there's one less chance of screwing up a circuit.
A superb job sir well done
Nice work Chris and James 👍🏻
I spent a few years working plumbing pipe in domestic and chipboard floors still give me a queasy feeling.
How do you sort the chipboard holes? Do you sikaflex them in? Cos surely they'd just push through if you put them back.
Once more our intrepid heroes succeed wear others have failed. The sad reality is the cowboys out number the good guys. Still you’ll never be out of work , but it does mean you’ll spend a large part of your life putting other people’s crap right 😂😂😂 can’t wait to see what other crimes have been committed for you to solve. Best wishes as always 👍
CJR, Was watching a video a while ago of an LED light on a magnet. Have you got a link to the product?
Brilliant videos and very educational. With respect to down lighters, when should they be fire rated and what areas should they be fitted ? And is there a reference in the 18th edition to it ?
Well done. What a job
12:27 - It's funny because most sparks I come across think they're "spreads" "chippies" "structural engineers" "architects" "kitchen fitters" "decorators" just about anything, except none of them think they're plumbers hahaha!!!!
Great insightful video... A question on what you would do in this situation regards to charging the customer? Is this something you would write off and come back and install the CU on another day at your expense or would you discuss with the client and charge for that day?
Bloody heart breaking tracing a open circuit nice fix 😃
Any reason you don't use a telephone line tone generator connected at the board? You can hear the tone through the wall (assuming the cable isn't MICC or in conduit)... Where the tone stops you find the break. Best £15 I ever spent - saves HOURS.
Send the customer the bill and a link to this vid! , You earned your money on this one matey!
Chris and James - another day in paradise! Have you tried the 127mm Armeg solid board cutter and plugs for the access in chipboard floors?
Great fault finding lads, bit like this house I'm working on presently, some donkey buried a junction box in the plaster!! Ye gods...why do they do it!!
can't wait for part 2 !!!!!!
@PETER WILSON looks if it's going that way
Great work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and have a nice week
I took the ceiling down in my living room recently, only to find the builders 'extension' new electrics - I really wish I hadn't!
At a neighbours' house over 25 years ago a dining room extension had been added and they'd split the ring to connect to sockets on either side of the extension but had just left it as two 2.5mm² radials on a 30A fuse.
And at a current neighbour's house the cowboys who did the loft conversion ran all the sockets via an RCD FCU on the end of the unused immersion heater cable.
How do you adjust the cost when things like this happen ? Do you agree a set price with the client or just add on the extra at the end?
How did you secure the round cutouts back in the holes so that they are solid enough to stand on?
I'm guessing he fixed a nogging under the floorboard and then screwed the cutout to that.
I'd like to know too please.
4 wedges cut flush with the surface and some board dust mixed with Titebond to fill the circle!
Normally a batten screwed underneath I use the Armeg solid board cutter all you do is drop a plastic plug back in when your finished as there’s a rim for the plug to fit in so it’s always accessible and you can write on the plug what’s below the floor
thats correct - my so called step dad who thought was great - put the cooker on the lights RCD ring and wonder why it kept tripping all the time. then the real electricians came and shouted when they needed to do a survey... and shouted HELP!!!! The electrics in this house is SHODDY!!!
The Scuderia Ferrari of consumer units
We call them electro-painters!
Top video..
Love these kind of video's..
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Hi Chris i had live in Cornwall and needed a electrician i contacted Hendra Electrices. the guy Adam came and did the job and in conversation with him , i said i watch you on UA-cam , he said he met you at electrical fair . , he won some tools from you
Simple board change turns into a nightmare
It's because of structures like this that ALL Canadian Wiring (with VERY, VERY few exceptions) MUST be done after a Permit has been pulled by either a Licensed Electrical Contractor OR (for Residences) the Home Owner (Not the Tenant, the OWNER) and then Inspected by a City/County Electrical Inspector who then Closes the Permit IF the work is up to Code OR tells you off, maybe writes a Ticket/Fine and tells yo to fix it if it isn't up to Code...
People that do work requiring a Permit WITHOUT a Permit can get HUGE Fines AND be forced to pull everything apart so the Inspector can see what was done (at their own expense of course)...
ALWAYS GET THE PERMITS!!! Inspectors are NOT your enemy! Their Job is to tell you if the work you've done is safe or could cause the home to burn down (Electrical), mold/rot (Plumbing), blow up (Gas/HVAC) or fall down (Structural)...AND they keep you from having to make VERY Expensive repairs in the near future due to bad work as well as keep the Insurance Companies from being able to deny any Claims due to shoddy, Illegal work...
Compared to that, Permits are CHEAP!!!
Great video !! have access to under floor JB boxes do I have to change them and put in wago boxes also can if access is ok still put in older JBs
We having a mental breakdown at the moment. 😲 Gives us a moment to recover.
Nicely done Chris If you had to split the ring into two 20amp radials to the kitchen it wouldn't be so bad would it?
Are hidden junction boxes allowed there, or is that a cock up? Can't do it here in the US (or maybe Canada too)
Thanks for the video.
Been there!!! I don't start a board after 1pm
are junction boxs hidden in a floor like that allowed by code there? i know in canada its a big no no to have them loose let alone not accesablle like that
Wow 🙄 . Well done guys great fault finding video
James needs to read the company dress code requirements that simply states "That all socks must be of multi-color and / or pattern, per approval of management." 👍🍺
19:14 are those spiders legs? Euggggh, have you ever had a fear of spiders, because I think subconsciously that may have prevented me from pursuing my interest in an electrician’s career.
I find that at work you're to focused on the task at hand to worry, when I'm at home spiders freak me right out I can't stand them but at work I've had bites and had them crawling on me dangling Infront of my face and it doesnt phase me whatsoever until later on when I remember it and then it creeps me out 😅
Access hatches should always be in place when dealing with junction boxes,Mr builder.typical ex owners.
In Canada, their REQUIRED by Law - ALL Electrical Junctions MUST be Accessible at all times for trouble-shooting/maintenance/repairs...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan nothing about this installation meets the regulations or indeed the most basic legal requirements.
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan We have exceptions for maintenance free joints... but they're very restrictive. and none of this met the requirements or even approached them. And as an aside, i lived in both the US and canada for a while (5 yrs in USA and 7 months in canada) and the accessibility of the wiring made me happy. Some of the standards of work i saw, notsomuch.*
*i was allowed by code to work in the US according to the city i was working in, and in canada i helped out a friend in a province where DIY was allowed, so i'm not a codebreaker :) lol
When you put the circle of wood back into the hole in the chipboard, how is it supported?
that's why you were pulling your hair out on Instagram the other day!!! Looked like a nightmare but got there in the end, good video guys
Lotus on the drive mem cu from 1924 priorities 😂😂
The rincgcircuit systen is a cracy invention. Junction boxes hidden under the floor would'nt be leagal in Denmark.
Blackfinger 2 A proper ring doesn't need junction boxes, and anyway, Junction boxes under the floor are illegal here too. Only maintenance free connectors may be used unless easily accessible - but as we have already established there is no reason to use any kind of connector on a ring.
Can’t wait for the next instalment 😆
Would it have made sense to leave a loop of extra cable and rewire to the socket? Then if you have to you can add the wago box and if not you removed the joint completely
Ignore the haters Chris, I think your work and videos are brilliant