I've read a theory recently that Carl actually passed away after losing his house, and how the floating house representing his ascending to heaven and how Russell is actually his gaurdian angel helping him get there, and is also supposed to be the child that Carl and Ellie lost. Also the badge ceremony at the end represents Russell"earning his wings".
That actually makes a lot of sense. The character Carl is probably based off of a dead relative or friend of one of the writers, giving this story more meaning than what was originally intended. Boom.
IKR I was waiting for him to bring that up and I thought "oh here it comes" when he brought up the address again at the end. Then I was disappointed when he just brought up the town name. That aside I still enjoyed all the info and ideas brought up in the video.
At first I was like "Oh its just gunna be another theory that is moderately believable because some stuff doesn't add up and there are a few things pointing that are pointing to what is actually going on" but no, my mind was blown for this one. the facts were overwhelming!
Altermaster13 Well, the video showing Muntz getting discredited is BEFORE he even MEETS Ellie so he cant have imagined that. His skepticism for the existence of Muntz is therefore weakened. Also, he CANNOT imagine the boy as the boy appears with badges and adventurous spirit BEFORE he goes to court which is what allegedly made him insane. As for the snipe's existence, its genitalia is undocumented as its an undiscovered species so a child who hasnt even hit puberty and doesnt know bird genitals mislabeling a birds sex would be VERY believable. Hell, Im 20 and I cant tell you most birds' sexes. As for the balloons, it would be impossible to animate that many millions of balloons. Keep in mind we are dealing with movies that have talking cars, bugs, tree spirits, and animals. Sometimes its not all EXACTLY realistic. Also, if we consider the movie to have come out as a documentary sometime after the actual events transpire and we can also reasonably assume that the car wasnt new that year and the poster could easily be an older one, the age of Muntz/his placement in time would be off. If you add 4 or 5 years, Muntz would be 13. Since he did do alot of collecting, his family is likely rich to allow him to do it at such a young age. This would explain political influence that allows him to be with Roosevelt, WHO btw, was a skilled politician would give a skeleton to a boy who found it to gain political influence. Roosevelt was always more interested in live game anyway. Thoughts?
I have a problem with this: if he really lost his mind and started to imagine people why not Ellie too? he´s crazy so his logic wouldn´t mind that she´s long dead. why have your child hero and not your beloved wife?
vbiiiizfik He is imagining a possible "real" future for himself, so is constrained to what really happened in the past, and Muntz becomes a villain so Carl can become the hero of his own imagination
SuperCarlinBrothers so he is crazy but not crazy enough to be with his wife. that makes me sad. this whole theory makes me sad. now I´m sad. thank you very much..
vbiiiizfik Well, i think, even crazy, he understands you cant bring back the dead. And so, instead of dreaming Ellie, he dreams Russel instead. Its not Ellie, but he as he stated in the video, he was probably dreaming Russel as the kid they never had, so, he had a part of Ellie.
vbiiiizfik If he were to imagine Ellie back, then he'd know it wasn't real, sort of. It isn't a dream, he thinks it's all happening. And her suddenly being alive is again is actually MORE unlikely than the adventures he goes on.
vbiiiizfik He knows Ellie is dead. By bringing her back, he's basically proving to himself this new Utopia is fake. So, by creating a creature who is Ellie-like, he still gets to live in paradise without and pain of loss what so ever.
Lol I don't see it as "ruined". I just appreciate that I can see my favorite movies from a different perspective but my original perspective is still with me.
I've seen a few comments saying "It could've been FDR", which I initially thought as well, but then I remembered that FDR had polio and was in a wheelchair. I'd have to rewatch that scene to make sure there isn't anything to disprove it, but I think ALICE Roosevelt would be a good candidate. Alice was the daughter of Teddy Roosevelt, and she lived a very...scandalous life. She gambled, smoke, and did a lot of "unladylike" things. I feel like she might've been into going on safari, like her father, and playing gin rummy. (I suppose Kermit Roosevelt, her brother, is also a likely possibility, considering he actually went on safari with Teddy, but I find the idea of the Roosevelt being Alice particularly amusing).
Well, i had a thought that I don't think anyone has discussed yet. Possibly Andy's dad was a sheriff or some important military figure who died in action. This explains why Andy's dad is not seen in Toy Story and how he died. Because Andy and Carl are related, Andy's dad pulled some strings using his important status to let Carl go free of charge. i haven't fully thought any possible plot holes, so if anyone would like to pitch in that be great. ;D Also, his dad's position may also have some influence on Andy's childhood preference towards crime fighters i.e. Woody and Buzz.
Well, I really think this is a good though, but it really concerns me the fact that we never see anything from Andy's father in the film. I mean, there is no picture, medal, memories, like nothing at all. Unless Andy's family is really weird, I don't think they would have any reasons to not keep any memories of him, unless if he wasn't a good person at all...
I don't mean to rain on your parade with theories cos I love them but I read Andy's dad doesn't appear in the movie because human characters were just to expensive to make
My theory about Up: Basically, I hold that everything fantastical in this movie happened only in Carl's mind, starting at the point he lifted up his house with balloons. Let's take some points. - The movie Carl is watching in the beginning is clearly an adventure movie. It has a sensationalistic narration with a captivating storytelling. It doesn't sound like a documentary as it is superficially implied. Also, what kind of cinema shows documentary movies, especially talking about old black-and-white cinemas? It is no sin to say that it has all the elements of a film telling a fictional story. That's my first point: Charles Muntz is a fictional character, and Paradise Falls is a fictional setting of his adventures. He is no real explorer visiting a real (even though legendary) place. His airship, his rejection by the academia and everything else are just parts of a movie's fictional plot. - Carl and Ellie, consequently, would still had a common childhood hero, but a fictional hero. Perhaps they believed it was all real in their childhood, but when grown up they realized it wasn't. This didn't change their dreams much. Let's say: you don't need to actually believe a fictional saga is real to be truly fanatic about it; we got many well-known examples out there. - At the end, it is revealed that at the previously blank pages in Ellie's Adventure Book reserved for her adventures in Paradise Falls, she registered instead her marriage with Carl, turning it into a photo album. The album contains a note saying Carl must live a new adventure, what reinvigorates him in the final scenes. This further suggests not only that they knew everything was fictional, but that they tried to live their lives into this fantasy. - Ellie and Muntz' adventures was all Carl lived for. Moving to the retirement home, consequently, would mean that his life is over. But as it is shown, there's nothing he can do to avoid that. With this, it may be that when Carl saw his life finally getting to an end with everything being lost, he fell into a reverie before he could definitely immerse into this last, sorrowful stage of his life. Everything happened in his mind in the fashion of his childhood fantasies, but without Ellie's presence. Also important is that his bad thoughts managed to manifest through this reverie. What I interpret of this: - The fact Carl lifted his house with the balloons he used to sell when he worked with Ellie is the first step of his reverie: he gets away from his problems and floats calmly through the sky, remembering of his beloved wife. - Russell is Carl's picture of what his son would be: an innocent, mannered little boy. Carl is reluctant about him at first, but eventually shows to care about him as a father. - Finally, Paradise Falls and Charles Muntz as appearing in the film would be Carl's imagination of this childhood fantasy, being gradually consumed by sadness and darkness, as his hero is revealed to be a sickly villain and everything loses all the meaning. This represents his confront with the reality awaiting him, which he just remembered. - In the final scenes, Carl manages to forget most of his old past in order to happily live the last stage of his life. He does so by defeating Muntz and accepting that his home is now gone after landing on the Falls and fulfilling his promise. However, he takes some bits of his adventures with him: Russell, Doug and the other dogs, and the Spirit of Adventures. And that's it. Up is basically a movie about an old man's fight against his final fate by reflecting about the good and bad moments and dreams of his life.
The one thing I'm still wondering is if Carl idolized Muntz and idealized him in his mind, why did imaginary Muntz try to attack Carl? Why would his mind formulate that aspect of the story?
It may be that because his dream life with Ellie didn't turn out to be all he imagined it, in his mind nothing was good like he thought so he destroys the image of his idol himself.
Wait a sec, if Ellie was heartbroken over her inability to carry a child, doesn't that mean she wanted one in the first place? (I only ask this to prove a point) And if she so wanted to have a kid, why didn't she and Carl just get a surrogate or adopt or something? Wouldn't that make more sense than just giving up and saying "Well, since we can't have a biological child, I guess we won't have one at all...Let's start saving up for a trip to South America instead!"...?
Masqueradia It actually explains in the movie that the dude who wants Carl's house pulls strings to make things go smoothly for Carl if he goes to Shady Oaks. In big business, this isn't an unusual occurrence... hell, even disney pays off victims to keep quiet when bad things happen at Walt Disney World.
Masqueradia Muntz is supposed to be unbelievable. He's a LIAR. He's one of the old washed up adventurers who wants people to think he is still in his glory days. Old men exaggerate themselves all the time. it's called a fishtale. Your followers (namely, the kids) don't usually ask too many questions about it until it's too little too late and they've spent their entire lives believing some poor toothless lion's bs. He WANTS to be impressive. He's the opposite of Carl, who was more interested in actually going on an adventure to fulfill his lifelong dream in solitude, Muntz wants to project into history that this is all HIS doing, His Glory, His brilliance. It's why he's the perfect antagonist for Carl.
I once wrote a theory about how Carl is actually dying and Russel is leading him to heaven. He has to give up a lot to go UP! He loses his house on his journey. What if his childhood hero is actually Satan and he bumps into him on his way to the after life. In the beginning of the movie we see a replaying of Carl's life. It is sad that in the last 7 minutes or so of your life your brain will replay all of the moments (or important) moments of your life. What if the beginning where we see his past is those 7 minutes.
You also have to understand that some people don't believe in religion at all and maybe people at Pixar don't either so why would heaven and the satin have to do with this theory?
Did you forget about Franklin Delano Roosevelt? FDR was born in 1882 and died in 1945, and seeing as Muntz was born in 1911, (estimated) he would have been totally able to play gin rummy with FDR seeing as he was president between 1933 and 1945, so Muntz would have been 22 and the poster being dated December 1933, I think it is safe to say that Muntz isn't b.s.ing the audience and Carl in this case
I think Carl actually was more hurt from his fall in the original house in one of the first scenes with the balloon. maybe he got put into a coma or something and literally just imagined his whole life in front of him. it makes since because it would be life a dream where almost everything good goes your way, than his health in the coma gets worse and makes a turn for the worse, losing his wife, house, and freedom. it might sound extreme but I just started a theory and a fall 2 stories could make you go possibly in a coma.
Colin Doyle Carrrrrrrl , what is this red stuff in the lifeboat? Carl: would you believe it's strawberry milkshake? Paul: no Carl: melted gumdrops? Paul:no Carl: boat juice ? Paul: no Carl: gods tears? Paul: no
I'm intrigued by the whole " Up was Carl's fantasy" thing, but if its true I don't think Carl was necessarily sent to jail. We know that Carl was dead set on staying in his home, not wanting to sell. The company couldn't do much about it, and all they could do was offer as much money as they could. But when Carl hit their worker, the company saw their chance to get him off for good. Sure, the trial might have started with the threat of jail time, but that wouldn't be any good for the company. Carl would still be able to keep his home and property if he was sent to prison. By sending Carl to a retirement home instead, Carl would be forced to sell his house to the company (for much less than they had offered) and would be out of their hair. Now a retirement home doesn't seem like such a scary place to us. However, to a man who wanted to live a life full of adventure and freedom, a retirement home might as well be a prison. Its basically a place you go when you can't take care of yourself and when your time on earth his ending, something I think Carl fears a whole lot in the beginning of the film.
There's a theory that states that Carl is dead, and Russel is an angel trying to earn his wings by guiding Carl through limbo, and subsequently the last thoughts he had about his life
Assault is a petty crime. There's just no way he *wouldn't* just get to go home after sentencing. Heck, even repeat offenders wouldn't be sentenced to jailtime for it, unless they'd been there several times already. As a crime, it's barely one step above "I stole a candy bar", and multiple steps below "I stole a TV".
I actually see carl's journey as him making his way to heaven. The man lived a hard and more than disappointing life; from no child to no more wife, he deserved a balloon/house ride into a place he felt happy and calm. without getting too technical, i think this is a more satisfying theory and gives the story a more beautiful meaning weather it be true or not.
Fell Polley I agree. I heard a theory similar to this. The challenges he went through were supposed to be his trials on his way to heaven, AKA paradise. Gabriel was supposed to be Saint Gabriel.
Franklin Roosevelt was crippled by polio in 1921 and bound to a wheelchair, so couldn't go on a safari. Plus, like other person said, Teddy Roosevelt was Roosevelt known for being an explorer.
I think that you may have gotten street and town mixed up. The post card clearly says, "18 Shackleton" and "Bloomington, P.D." I believe that Shackleton is the street address, not the town because clearly Bloomington is the name of the town that Carl and Ellie met each other and grew up together in.
Wait, but the postcard is to Carl and Ellie. That means that it was meant to be sent BEFORE Ellie died. Which means Carl wouldn't be in jail, right? So the postcard wouldn't be sent to the police department. Other than that, this theory is great, though!
Before going into this, I was skeptical, but you've convinced me in less than 9 minutes that Carl is indeed crazy. About people asking about the Pixar Theory, I think having Carl be one crazy old man doesn't punch a hole through the entire thing--talking dog collars and the like could actually have been invented in Carl's time, and he could just be incorporating those into his fantasies as the human mind is prone to do.
Because Carl's subconsious had to make the fantisy belivible, if not realistic. Lossing his wife was one of the deffining momments of Carl's life, so having her just appear out of nowhere wouldn't work
Yeah exactly lol !!! This theory is pretty shit too....the Pixar theory I like and it's not dark, it's not about death or skitzos or mental people. Every theory nowadays is jus someone is crazy or dead.
That's because it is the 'low hanging fruit', so to speak. If you think about it, how hard is it to just look at any movie/book/etc and say the main character was actually acting all this out in their head? People want to make theories and try to turn stories into something else and this is the simplest way of doing it.
I I'm in between think about it, Charles hanged with Roosevelt when 8? What if he time traveled though and possibly even helped Boo find Sully [Monsters Inc.] and I believe he could've timed traveled and stayed on the forest because first, he could've found that bird a long time ago. With the technology he holds upon his dogs talking? I mean he could've gone any time to get his technology I don't believe there is capability of him randomly finding any source to make those collars. And those skeletons he has when he realized Carl's lying about Kevin. He could've killed those people not to take the bird so he couldn't go back and also not show himself again I doubt he wanted to go back and spend his time rather time traveling leading again how Boo found Sully in the end of Monsters Inc. [he could've been having an act the whole time tho in the movie but highly doubt that].
Wait wait wait WAIT!!! If he was crazy and imagined everything after the court scene, the whole theory of all the movies tying together can't happen? The dogs with the collars that allowed them to talk would never have existed so they could never connect with ratatouille right? I can't remember exactly if it was ratatouille that it was connected to, but I think you might get my point. PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS
OMG THATS TRUE!! but it wouldn't stop the whole timeline though and because it's about her theory not everyone going to believe it cause everyone crazy enough to expect talking cars but not a house taken away by balloons? I think his at court for something to do with the death and the owning of the house or something, so I think it's real
The ZIP Code can give us a clue as to where it is. The ZIP Code 67913 isn't in use. However, if it was in use, it would be near Liberal, Kansas. The first three digits in ZIP Codes represent a central postal facility where mail is sorted and sent to the individual post offices. In rural areas, the digits 01 are then assigned to the central post office in the largest city, and other ZIP Codes are assigned roughly alphabetically. (In urban areas, they just skip assigning the central post office as 01, and just go roughly alphabetically). ZIP Code 67901 is assigned to Liberal, Kansas in the southwest corner of the state, so 67913 would be nearby to facilitate mail delivery.
Pixar theory could still hold up, UP doesn't really affect the Pixar theory at all really. Besides this theory is silly lol i like the Pixar theory tho, but not this one.
Didn't Russell steer the house to Paradise Falls? Im not saying I don't agree with the theory that its all in his head but he doesn't just go to sleep and wake up in Paradise Falls, Russell says he took the house there using the compass so it wasn't just completely random as u described it was explained how the house got there
If this theory holds any water, then the whole Pixar Theory of everything in the same time line and animals getting smarter wouldn't be true, causing the entire Pixar Theory to collapse
+Syn~ I advocate the "Andy's family is related to them" theory, but I think Ellie is Emma Jean's sister, and Emma Jean is Andy's grandmother. This would go further into cementing Emily as Andy's mother, because it helps fill in/reduce age gaps, and the name "Emily" is similar enough to "Emma" to be a feminine twist on the male tradition of naming a first son "Blank-Blank-Last Name-Junior." Emma Jean feels sorry for her sister because she can't have children, and sends Emily to visit for a few weeks every year. This goes along with the "we" in the "We are having a wonderful time!" If we accept this theory, we can then conclude Carl and Ellie are like another set of "grandparents" to Andy. Now that the relationship is established, how does this explain Carl being crazy? What if it was sent AFTER Ellie died, and Carl had already gone crazy? In reality, the postcard is addressed ONLY to Carl, and he subconsciously puts Ellie's name there? To further this theory, the rest of the address has to be considered, what if "18 Shackleton" is the room number and name of the prison psych ward Carl was placed in? "Bloomington, P.D." is the final piece of that puzzle, although we are still lacking a state, but more on that in a bit. Your next question being "How does Andy get the postcard?" I'm going to shock you: Carl died before "Toy Story 3," and Andy kept it because he saw his grandmother's name on it, and possibly was from the last vacation they went on together with his dad. Going back to the "Bloomington P. D.," there is a "Bloomington, MN." That's right, I just added "Inside Out" to this mess. I blew my own mind with that one. - Knightsaysni
+Nicholas Peterman this doesn't makes sense cus we see Ellies name written on the postcard by Andys perspective, I mean, only if he was also crazy to see her name
+OMG ITS A LLAMA I advocate the "Andy's family is related to them" theory, but I think Ellie is Emma Jean's sister, and Emma Jean is Andy's grandmother. This would go further into cementing Emily as Andy's mother, because it helps fill in/reduce age gaps, and the name "Emily" is similar enough to "Emma" to be a feminine twist on the male tradition of naming a first son "Blank-Blank-Last Name-Junior." Emma Jean feels sorry for her sister because she can't have children, and sends Emily to visit for a few weeks every year. This goes along with the "we" in the "We are having a wonderful time!" If we accept this theory, we can then conclude Carl and Ellie are like another set of "grandparents" to Andy. Now that the relationship is established, how does this explain Carl being crazy? What if it was sent AFTER Ellie died, and Carl had already gone crazy? In reality, the postcard is addressed ONLY to Carl, and he subconsciously puts Ellie's name there? To further this theory, the rest of the address has to be considered, what if "18 Shackleton" is the room number and name of the prison psych ward Carl was placed in? "Bloomington, P.D." is the final piece of that puzzle, although we are still lacking a state, but more on that in a bit. Your next question being "How does Andy get the postcard?" I'm going to shock you: Carl died before "Toy Story 3," and Andy kept it because he saw his grandmother's name on it, and possibly was from the last vacation they went on together with his dad. Going back to the "Bloomington P. D.," there is a "Bloomington, MN." That's right, I just added "Inside Out" to this mess. I blew my own mind with that one.
+KnightsaysNi But what about Riley from inside out, if you watched his video on it, you would see the evidence that Riley is possibly Andy's mom. I just wanted to say this i dont really want to make it a huge deal i just wanted to make a point.
+Alexis Antonelli But Inside Out is obviously based on present times... Notice Dad's cell phone, etc. How does that work, unless Toy Story is based in the close future?
Not to mention he talks to his house like she’s his dead wife. In the move russle uses this to his advantage to persuade him to keep Kevin. And Carl isn’t denying Elle said that. The crazy thing is, he looks up at his house and says “but I told him no!” Like he’s the tough strick parent. Not to mention of Elle was alive she would argue with him about keeping the bird or not, so maybe it’s his way of coping with her death and keeping himself from going COMPLETELY insane with grief. There’s also a theory I can make to go with this. Is this Carl’s mind helping him get over Elle? And move on?
I have so many arguments about this video, however this "rant" is just my opinion. First up, the questions at 1:44 with the punishment. Yes, he does go there because he assaulted someone, but at that point he has nothing left. Ellie died, and he doesn't want anyone touching or moving his house. Also, the court may have a rule on a specific age they can put people in jail, and out of everything bad he could have done, that's the only thing as we the audience knows, except for maybe swearing. (There was a "swear" jar in the beginning of the movie when Ellie was alive and they had to use it for their car {See the Marriage of Carl and Ellie}.) Second, it's Pixar. Like most of the people who commented in the "towel section" say that Pixar do some crazy stuff, and I agree. At 3:00, with where Carl wanted to go, he didn't know until he hit the ground. Once looking out the window, there was just the sun, house with balloons, and clouds. Plus, he could have ended anywhere but Paradise Falls. Ellie planned to go there, and Carl promised that he would take her. He never thought about going. (Beginning where she's in his room and telling him where she got the picture.) With the badges that belong to Russell, what if they were a real thing in the movie? Russell couldn't have been his dream child because how could Russell have really dark hair when neither Ellie or Carl had what looked like brownish colored hair? With Kevin, his feathers could have been a coincidence, and she may have had a spouse then before Carl and Russel came to the Falls. With the Charles Muntz thing, its another non-realistic thing. Yes, people meet their idols, but with the ages of Carl and Charles, that can't be done. Before meeting Ellie, there was a video on Charles telling the audience in the film what he was like. Of course throughout the years, it could have been different, but sometimes people don't change. A lot of people live in the wild so they can get away from the "boring" life. The things that Muntz has and as to why he has so many is because he could have been an architect who found those bones. The Roosevelt thing could have been because old people could can have their information wrong, or maybe Roosevelt came across Charles when he was a kid and maybe became apart of Teddy's family. Stuff like that can happen, resulting to how Charles could have maybe received the Leopard Turtle and the blimp. Think about it!!! Finally, going back to the postcard, Pixar may have just made up a place in the USA. Why? Maybe there's another policy where they cannot use real addresses in movies, just to make sure that if it actually was, someone couldn't go to that house knocking on the door. And that is it! Again this is just my opinion, and I am NOT arguing that any of this information in this UA-cam video is or is not real. That is all I have to say. :) PS- If Carl was crazy, he wouldn't be behind bars. He would in an asylum.
Carl may have gotten his dream child, but he wasn't actually his child. So he had to create who the real mother was, so he may have imagined Russell's mom.
***** probably because all his fantasies of adventure that he never managed to achieve while Ellie was alive bring him pain to think about. So muntz is the personification of his pain?
Muntz could be referring to Franklin D. Roosevelt the 32nd president. This would be more logical because FDR died in 1945. Muntz would have been at most 34 making is tale a little bit more believable. But Carl is potentially crazy so only Pixar them self can confirm either argument
I kept waiting for you to mention how he slowly progresses physically and by the end he's climbing ladders and anchoring houses like its cake. so either he's crazy in the beginning because he thinks he needs his cane or he's crazy after he's arrested. good video, i love your connections
SuperCarlinBrothers But the point with the post card and Ellie is before the court house scene. The post card is even seen when Carl and Ellie are still young. stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1382177_o.gif Top right corner at the beginning and end of this gif you can see the post card in question.
Um.... If humans evolved into monsters in the Pixar theory... Is it possible that crazy Carl, on the way to monster, became a llama, and became Carl the Llama?
Nope. Carl is not crazy, and there are several reasons why. First of all, P.D. is an easter egg that stands for Pete Doctor. Second of all, the postcard appears in Andy's room in Toy Story 3. Why would Andy have the postcard of a crazy old man rotting in prison? Thirdly, The post card says, "We are having a swell time. Wish you were here!" If that card was sent from a prison, why would it say that? Fourthly, Muntz is probably the crazy one. I mean, come on! That makes much more sense! He scribbled all over his maps and is obsessed with a bird! The bonus features on the Blu-Ray/DVD literally stated that Muntz's air ship was like his mind, it gots darker as they went deeper. No wonder he hasn't got his facts strait! Also, Muntz was able to live longer thanks to Kenvin's eggs so... yeah... Lastly, and most importantly, Carl's house was able to float because of magic. No joke. If you believe the Pixar Theory (which, if you're reading this, you probably do) you hopefully know that magic, or something similar to magic, as existed throughout the Pixar Timeline. And what is one of the most important ingredients for there to be magic in the Pixar Universe? Wood! Carl's house is made almost entirely out of wood! He might have got the idea to fly his house with balloons thanks, in part, to all the time he spent with WOOD! So no, Carl has not lost all of his marbles, he's just eccentric because of wood. Game Set Match ;)
I'm starting to not like these theory while they are very creative I feel like they are sort of tainting the spirit of these films. I by no means am saying to stop them because they are interesting I guess they just aren't for me anymore at least
fletcherjeff55 Rockerdude17 I can totally see where you guys are coming from, we by no means want to take away from the enjoyment of the films and are really just super fans who like discuss different possibilities - They may seem nitpicky but what I love about Pixar is how detailed they are about everything, because its so precisely animated they have to make decisions about every little thing, like the date on the magazine or what address Carl will have. Their reasons could be totally random, but with the amount of intentional easter eggs in their movies its hard to think there is no meaning behind some of their details. When we do a theory vid like this we like to have as much evidence as possible so it doesnt come off like a Creepy Pasta post which often feel like mostly conjecture - but hey its just a theory!
SuperCarlinBrothers i totally agree Pixar movies are very keen on detail and i think its great that people can have fun playing around with these and making their own very creative and clever theories. i think you guys do a great job at coming up with these ideas just that i guess i like to keep believing in the magic and incredible nature of these movies. i'm a huge fan of your videos and you should definitely keep coming up with these really neat theories because obviously people love watching them as much as i assume you love coming up with them. i guess i'm just not a part of these people but i am looking forward to all your future videos. :) :)
I think that Paradise Falls is sort of like the lost world, time moves differently there. Remember Charles Muntz had specimens of what looked like giant sloths and extinct prehistoric mammals, and even Kevin looks like a prehistoric bird. This explains why Charles Muntz is almost the same age as Carl. Time has moved differently there. And remember that they even say it's "a land lost in time". This even explains why there is a storm barrier surounding paradise falls, and a mysterious mist, yet when you land there the sky is blue. Its also based off of angel falls in Venezuela, where they filmed the lost world. But hey, thats just a theory.. a film theory.
You have ruined the movie for me. Now all I can think about is " the man is crazy, this is all happening in his head" man. Should not have watched this video
ok, maybe Carl is not crazy. Maybe the idea of his house flying away is the process of his brain experiencing death. Theory Carl died. Maybe the boy isn't some random kid but the kid the his wife and him lost in the doctors office. helping him achieve his dream in a metaphysical sense to help process him in to the after life. Maybe the dog is just more of a messenger telling them to stay on track to go to heaven instead of being lured away to the dark side (hell) because there is no return.
The dog does not make scence. We’re you just looking at one of the guys conspiracy theory’s and think “hey, I should make up a crazy hell part that the dog is trying to help Carl find his way home,ok”. Because what if the dog didn’t have the collar?
Even if Carl was in the Psych Department [P. D.] I do believe Russell was real, and he and Russell did have an "adventure" and a bonded relationship. Carl was for Russell what his M.I.A. father was not, encouraging, and Russel was for Carl what his M.I.A. family was, caring. In many ways if the entire "adventure" were imagines, the ending had to have that depth for me.
+Julia Kurczyn Ur right, but we can all agree here that we understood what he wanted to say Also that it may not be correct saying that South America for example is another continent, but pll still say it and we all understand it.
im not into this pixar conspiracy shit but damn you had me at the end... i can at least believe carl is in a jail and nuts. i've never even seen the movie, and i believe what you say wow, you make a good point cuz it's actually pretty fucked up, maybe prophetic for us all.....WE ARE ALL CARL
Justin Ballinger Well, the video showing Muntz getting discredited is BEFORE he even MEETS Ellie so he cant have imagined that. His skepticism for the existence of Muntz is therefore weakened. Also, he CANNOT imagine the boy as the boy appears with badges and adventurous spirit BEFORE he goes to court which is what allegedly made him insane. As for the snipe's existence, its genitalia is undocumented as its an undiscovered species so a child who hasnt even hit puberty and doesnt know bird genitals mislabeling a birds sex would be VERY believable. Hell, Im 20 and I cant tell you most birds' sexes. As for the balloons, it would be impossible to animate that many millions of balloons. Keep in mind we are dealing with movies that have talking cars, bugs, tree spirits, and animals. Sometimes its not all EXACTLY realistic. Also, if we consider the movie to have come out as a documentary sometime after the actual events transpire and we can also reasonably assume that the car wasnt new that year and the poster could easily be an older one, the age of Muntz/his placement in time would be off. If you add 4 or 5 years, Muntz would be 13. Since he did do alot of collecting, his family is likely rich to allow him to do it at such a young age. This would explain political influence that allows him to be with Roosevelt, WHO btw, was a skilled politician would give a skeleton to a boy who found it to gain political influence. Roosevelt was always more interested in live game anyway. As for Shackleton, there are MANY Shackletons in the US. Also, if he was insane, explain why Ellie didnt come back or why he encountered so much hardship to get where he wanted to go. So many things could have gone so much better for him if he was insane but didnt. I am unconvinced by the evidence. Thoughts?
+Gabriel Corazza maybe Ellie didn't come back because it's his own imagination and sometimes in your by own imagination you symbolize stuff from real things I your life like the bird is to symbolize Ellie.
+Justin Ballinger The big shortcoming is that it's an easier assumption to say that Carl went to the Assisted Living Facility, they overdosed him on something because of the violent outburst (happens a lot believe it or not), Russell either found out that the crazy man went to the home or was visiting with his troop and found Carl. Russell, or his parent, or his troop leader points out the over-medicated man and they tone it down, but the end of the movie Carl's still in the home but the meds are gone and Russell's allowed to take him out for a while. Even easier is to just say Assisted Living Facility with Dementia, and it's even possibly what they were going for.
I've read a theory recently that Carl actually passed away after losing his house, and how the floating house representing his ascending to heaven and how Russell is actually his gaurdian angel helping him get there, and is also supposed to be the child that Carl and Ellie lost. Also the badge ceremony at the end represents Russell"earning his wings".
And that Paradise Falls WAS heaven, so he could be with his wife.
That makes more sense actually
I read that too!
That actually makes a lot of sense. The character Carl is probably based off of a dead relative or friend of one of the writers, giving this story more meaning than what was originally intended.
Boom.
i read it 2
As a wise and amazing man once said, "Of Course It's Happening Inside You'r Head, (Harry) But, Why On Earth Should That Mean It's Not Real?"
Who...?
Jaelyn Tot DUMBLEDORE
@@whitestorm8287 oof ok
that entire scene makes me cry so hard. Also when Fred died
@@jae4427 Muggles are not supposed to understand this.
P.D.- Psychiatric Department?
Forget that you saw this name tag. What's that mean?
P.D = Pete Docter
Kara Hill ohhhh
IKR I was waiting for him to bring that up and I thought "oh here it comes" when he brought up the address again at the end. Then I was disappointed when he just brought up the town name. That aside I still enjoyed all the info and ideas brought up in the video.
😱
The title: "Carl has lost his mind" works for both Up and The Walking Dead
Nah, that was just an eye.
Lenalyn and his mind
TheEdgyOnion CORAL
and llamas with hats
hmm, i believe he only got shot in the EYE.....not the brain owo
At first I was like "Oh its just gunna be another theory that is moderately believable because some stuff doesn't add up and there are a few things pointing that are pointing to what is actually going on" but no, my mind was blown for this one. the facts were overwhelming!
Altermaster13 No, not really.
Umm it was an opinion? I'm encouraged to have them?
Altermaster13 fletcher is entitled to opinions too.
Jokergeist Doesnt mean he can discredit someone else's opinion
Altermaster13 Well, the video showing Muntz getting discredited is BEFORE he even MEETS Ellie so he cant have imagined that. His skepticism for the existence of Muntz is therefore weakened. Also, he CANNOT imagine the boy as the boy appears with badges and adventurous spirit BEFORE he goes to court which is what allegedly made him insane. As for the snipe's existence, its genitalia is undocumented as its an undiscovered species so a child who hasnt even hit puberty and doesnt know bird genitals mislabeling a birds sex would be VERY believable. Hell, Im 20 and I cant tell you most birds' sexes.
As for the balloons, it would be impossible to animate that many millions of balloons. Keep in mind we are dealing with movies that have talking cars, bugs, tree spirits, and animals. Sometimes its not all EXACTLY realistic.
Also, if we consider the movie to have come out as a documentary sometime after the actual events transpire and we can also reasonably assume that the car wasnt new that year and the poster could easily be an older one, the age of Muntz/his placement in time would be off. If you add 4 or 5 years, Muntz would be 13. Since he did do alot of collecting, his family is likely rich to allow him to do it at such a young age. This would explain political influence that allows him to be with Roosevelt, WHO btw, was a skilled politician would give a skeleton to a boy who found it to gain political influence. Roosevelt was always more interested in live game anyway.
Thoughts?
I have a problem with this: if he really lost his mind and started to imagine people why not Ellie too? he´s crazy so his logic wouldn´t mind that she´s long dead. why have your child hero and not your beloved wife?
vbiiiizfik He is imagining a possible "real" future for himself, so is constrained to what really happened in the past, and Muntz becomes a villain so Carl can become the hero of his own imagination
SuperCarlinBrothers so he is crazy but not crazy enough to be with his wife. that makes me sad. this whole theory makes me sad. now I´m sad. thank you very much..
vbiiiizfik Well, i think, even crazy, he understands you cant bring back the dead. And so, instead of dreaming Ellie, he dreams Russel instead. Its not Ellie, but he as he stated in the video, he was probably dreaming Russel as the kid they never had, so, he had a part of Ellie.
vbiiiizfik If he were to imagine Ellie back, then he'd know it wasn't real, sort of. It isn't a dream, he thinks it's all happening. And her suddenly being alive is again is actually MORE unlikely than the adventures he goes on.
vbiiiizfik He knows Ellie is dead. By bringing her back, he's basically proving to himself this new Utopia is fake. So, by creating a creature who is Ellie-like, he still gets to live in paradise without and pain of loss what so ever.
This channel ruins everything I love, and I love this channel for it.
tHIs
Lol I don't see it as "ruined". I just appreciate that I can see my favorite movies from a different perspective but my original perspective is still with me.
same
Old people who are found crazy by the court don't usually get sent to jail. Just sayin
Yeah, but they would most likely be forced to go to a nursing home if they're hurting people.
or a... Psychiatric Department?
He wasn’t crazy he assaulted someone
@@strawberrys0da714 well he was forced to after the court
I've seen a few comments saying "It could've been FDR", which I initially thought as well, but then I remembered that FDR had polio and was in a wheelchair. I'd have to rewatch that scene to make sure there isn't anything to disprove it, but I think ALICE Roosevelt would be a good candidate. Alice was the daughter of Teddy Roosevelt, and she lived a very...scandalous life. She gambled, smoke, and did a lot of "unladylike" things. I feel like she might've been into going on safari, like her father, and playing gin rummy. (I suppose Kermit Roosevelt, her brother, is also a likely possibility, considering he actually went on safari with Teddy, but I find the idea of the Roosevelt being Alice particularly amusing).
Yelilow FDR wasn’t in a wheelchair until after Muntz left.
Muntz addressed Roosevelt as "he" and not "she."
Well, i had a thought that I don't think anyone has discussed yet. Possibly Andy's dad was a sheriff or some important military figure who died in action. This explains why Andy's dad is not seen in Toy Story and how he died. Because Andy and Carl are related, Andy's dad pulled some strings using his important status to let Carl go free of charge. i haven't fully thought any possible plot holes, so if anyone would like to pitch in that be great. ;D
Also, his dad's position may also have some influence on Andy's childhood preference towards crime fighters i.e. Woody and Buzz.
That's amazing I never thought of that!
+Dylan Verst That actually makes a lot of sense. It explains why the postcards are even there at all.
Nice!!
Well, I really think this is a good though, but it really concerns me the fact that we never see anything from Andy's father in the film. I mean, there is no picture, medal, memories, like nothing at all. Unless Andy's family is really weird, I don't think they would have any reasons to not keep any memories of him, unless if he wasn't a good person at all...
I don't mean to rain on your parade with theories cos I love them but I read Andy's dad doesn't appear in the movie because human characters were just to expensive to make
5:02 “He’s been living in a jungle for 68 years”
*C’mon buddy just one more year, you can do it*
NICE
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NO WAY ITS LOSER!!!!!! LOSER YOUR MY IDLE
69 funny haha now give me updoots
@@gmkproductions4035 that’s a FUNNY NUMBER _Wholesome Award_
My theory about Up:
Basically, I hold that everything fantastical in this movie happened only in Carl's mind, starting at the point he lifted up his house with balloons. Let's take some points.
- The movie Carl is watching in the beginning is clearly an adventure movie. It has a sensationalistic narration with a captivating storytelling. It doesn't sound like a documentary as it is superficially implied. Also, what kind of cinema shows documentary movies, especially talking about old black-and-white cinemas? It is no sin to say that it has all the elements of a film telling a fictional story. That's my first point: Charles Muntz is a fictional character, and Paradise Falls is a fictional setting of his adventures. He is no real explorer visiting a real (even though legendary) place. His airship, his rejection by the academia and everything else are just parts of a movie's fictional plot.
- Carl and Ellie, consequently, would still had a common childhood hero, but a fictional hero. Perhaps they believed it was all real in their childhood, but when grown up they realized it wasn't. This didn't change their dreams much. Let's say: you don't need to actually believe a fictional saga is real to be truly fanatic about it; we got many well-known examples out there.
- At the end, it is revealed that at the previously blank pages in Ellie's Adventure Book reserved for her adventures in Paradise Falls, she registered instead her marriage with Carl, turning it into a photo album. The album contains a note saying Carl must live a new adventure, what reinvigorates him in the final scenes. This further suggests not only that they knew everything was fictional, but that they tried to live their lives into this fantasy.
- Ellie and Muntz' adventures was all Carl lived for. Moving to the retirement home, consequently, would mean that his life is over. But as it is shown, there's nothing he can do to avoid that.
With this, it may be that when Carl saw his life finally getting to an end with everything being lost, he fell into a reverie before he could definitely immerse into this last, sorrowful stage of his life. Everything happened in his mind in the fashion of his childhood fantasies, but without Ellie's presence. Also important is that his bad thoughts managed to manifest through this reverie. What I interpret of this:
- The fact Carl lifted his house with the balloons he used to sell when he worked with Ellie is the first step of his reverie: he gets away from his problems and floats calmly through the sky, remembering of his beloved wife.
- Russell is Carl's picture of what his son would be: an innocent, mannered little boy. Carl is reluctant about him at first, but eventually shows to care about him as a father.
- Finally, Paradise Falls and Charles Muntz as appearing in the film would be Carl's imagination of this childhood fantasy, being gradually consumed by sadness and darkness, as his hero is revealed to be a sickly villain and everything loses all the meaning. This represents his confront with the reality awaiting him, which he just remembered.
- In the final scenes, Carl manages to forget most of his old past in order to happily live the last stage of his life. He does so by defeating Muntz and accepting that his home is now gone after landing on the Falls and fulfilling his promise. However, he takes some bits of his adventures with him: Russell, Doug and the other dogs, and the Spirit of Adventures.
And that's it. Up is basically a movie about an old man's fight against his final fate by reflecting about the good and bad moments and dreams of his life.
seems legit, the 1st point was superb never thought of it.
0YTMan Good job! that's an awesome theory
0YTMan Old black and white cinemas often showed newsreels, because many people in those days didn't have a TV
Ariadna Quintanilla he said what this video says
Wow that's true. It didn't feel real ...
The one thing I'm still wondering is if Carl idolized Muntz and idealized him in his mind, why did imaginary Muntz try to attack Carl? Why would his mind formulate that aspect of the story?
to get some action and to be the hero of the story
That's very true
It may be that because his dream life with Ellie didn't turn out to be all he imagined it, in his mind nothing was good like he thought so he destroys the image of his idol himself.
he might have made it up because he realized his idol will never come back, so he formulates an excuse to end that dream.
Make since
You would be good at cinema sins
Love me some cinemasins.
I'd think he'd be better at cinemawins
kmasterus Fuck that channel.
cracked.com(UA-cam channel) seems like more of his thing
P.D is Pete coffee director of up
Dosn't P.D mean Pete Docter.
yes
Yes
OMG your right
yes
Could mean "Postal Department"
Wait a sec, if Ellie was heartbroken over her inability to carry a child, doesn't that mean she wanted one in the first place? (I only ask this to prove a point) And if she so wanted to have a kid, why didn't she and Carl just get a surrogate or adopt or something? Wouldn't that make more sense than just giving up and saying "Well, since we can't have a biological child, I guess we won't have one at all...Let's start saving up for a trip to South America instead!"...?
Okay, so no surrogacy (through IVF, anyways) since it was 1934 (hadn't finished the video yet), but they could still adopt!
perhaps they couldn't afford adoption? it can be a very lengthy and costly process
WatchMePLayMinecraft ikr
A lot of couples who can't have children don't adopt, or have children through other means. They make peace with out having children.
Because the first successful surrogate happened in 1983.
That really felt like an episode of Cinema Sins...
MLSxEazoon Except not good.
Eazoon I know right? xD I was waiting for the *bang* to appear at any moment xD
It did but I liked it!
Yes.
My thoughts exactly.
Eazoon indeed
PD = Pixar Disney. This isn't a difficult question... Pixar loves shameless self promotion and Disney loves Pixar.
Masqueradia It actually explains in the movie that the dude who wants Carl's house pulls strings to make things go smoothly for Carl if he goes to Shady Oaks. In big business, this isn't an unusual occurrence... hell, even disney pays off victims to keep quiet when bad things happen at Walt Disney World.
Masqueradia Muntz is supposed to be unbelievable. He's a LIAR. He's one of the old washed up adventurers who wants people to think he is still in his glory days. Old men exaggerate themselves all the time. it's called a fishtale. Your followers (namely, the kids) don't usually ask too many questions about it until it's too little too late and they've spent their entire lives believing some poor toothless lion's bs. He WANTS to be impressive. He's the opposite of Carl, who was more interested in actually going on an adventure to fulfill his lifelong dream in solitude, Muntz wants to project into history that this is all HIS doing, His Glory, His brilliance. It's why he's the perfect antagonist for Carl.
Pixar cameos arent really 'shameless' theyre jokes that reward keen eyes
Bluetycon9 And they're EVERYWHERE.
No, Disney bought Pixar so people call the movies 'Disney's Pixar presents : movie name example' not the other way around
I am now thinking of an 8 year old Safariing with Theodore Roosevelt.
Me too XDDD
meh too😜
+Fangirl He obviously made a mistake, I'm thinking it's Franklin Roosevelt.
+FSS Square Either way it's hilarious.
Fangirl Well yeah, but it would be more interesting to see the president with polio doing that.
The reason why I don't watch UP that often is because of the court scene. It makes me feel so bad for Carl :(
PD: Pixar, Disney!
It is Pete Doctor, the creator of Up and Inside Out
Dang it.
+ACACIA LANCASTER And plus it's Disney, Pixar not Pixar, Disney
I thought it was Peters doctor
I was thinking that too!
I once wrote a theory about how Carl is actually dying and Russel is leading him to heaven. He has to give up a lot to go UP! He loses his house on his journey. What if his childhood hero is actually Satan and he bumps into him on his way to the after life. In the beginning of the movie we see a replaying of Carl's life. It is sad that in the last 7 minutes or so of your life your brain will replay all of the moments (or important) moments of your life. What if the beginning where we see his past is those 7 minutes.
Kailey Ross well this this just got depressing really quickly
Kailey Ross that's great!
After popularity of this comment theory I have searched for the full theory I wrote. I haven't been able to find it.
Stopped listening at "what if satan". Just grow up.
You also have to understand that some people don't believe in religion at all and maybe people at Pixar don't either so why would heaven and the satin have to do with this theory?
Its 1:40 AM. It's too early for this deep of a Disney theory.
Same it's midnight for me XD
4:20 AM For Me
7:57 for me.😊
00:21am here
Same
Watching this in September 2016 getting all the nostalgia from the old intro/set omg
Watching this in January 2020
I've literary been watching your videos all day, I have a physics exam tomorrow. What am I doing with my life?
wtf
You're watching videos with your life. It maybe you're going crazy too. I can't be sure...
Sian Williams Well, you're definitely not passing that physics exam.
Update: I got a B😂
Hahahha thank you!! I was sure I failed due to the lack of studying😂😂
Did you forget about Franklin Delano Roosevelt? FDR was born in 1882 and died in 1945, and seeing as Muntz was born in 1911, (estimated) he would have been totally able to play gin rummy with FDR seeing as he was president between 1933 and 1945, so Muntz would have been 22 and the poster being dated December 1933, I think it is safe to say that Muntz isn't b.s.ing the audience and Carl in this case
PD? As in the Peter guy who MADE this movie?
+Tiffany Larsen
THANK YOU.
Pete Docter
+Tiffany Larsen peter guy? did you mean peter griffin?.... lol peter griffin is from family guy
***** jeese i was just joking
Pete doctor
ikr
i just started watching the video and im guessing he was sentenced to house arrest thats why he had to take the house and fly away
omgggg you're an idiot thats why he wasnt sentenced to jail
nice catch
Aa
lauren rossi House arrest is not as common anymore. He would definetely have been sentenced to jail on counts of battery and assult
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But if Carl is Crazy don't this leave a giant hole in the pixar theory? You know, because of the magic-collar-speaking-dogs thing....
Dont means do not
The Anyaliss Yeah I know, I'm Italian, sometimes I screw up some phrases
The Anyaliss Yeah I know so what's wrong with my phrase? Is a question: don't this leave a giant hole in the pixar theory? What did I got wrong?
Doesn't. :) "this" is singular and the tense would be Present Simple.
Tuptaju Thanks c:
I think Carl actually was more hurt from his fall in the original house in one of the first scenes with the balloon. maybe he got put into a coma or something and literally just imagined his whole life in front of him. it makes since because it would be life a dream where almost everything good goes your way, than his health in the coma gets worse and makes a turn for the worse, losing his wife, house, and freedom. it might sound extreme but I just started a theory and a fall 2 stories could make you go possibly in a coma.
But hey, it´s just a Theory.
A Pixar Theory !
Thanks for watching!
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Simone Harris STEP INTO THE GAME THEORY, GAME THEORY, GAME THEORY, STEP INTO THE GAME THEORY, MATPAT GT!
Wurminator He should do some of his own pixar theories in the new film theory.
Caaaaaarrrrrrllll
Afangirl that kills people carl !
Colin Doyle Carrrrrrrl , what is this red stuff in the lifeboat?
Carl: would you believe it's strawberry milkshake?
Paul: no
Carl: melted gumdrops?
Paul:no
Carl: boat juice ?
Paul: no
Carl: gods tears?
Paul: no
Galaxy_Neko It's the nice elderly couple from the food area
Afangirl COOORRRRAAAAALLLLLL
Sam Septiceye shut it hippie
I'm intrigued by the whole " Up was Carl's fantasy" thing, but if its true I don't think Carl was necessarily sent to jail. We know that Carl was dead set on staying in his home, not wanting to sell. The company couldn't do much about it, and all they could do was offer as much money as they could. But when Carl hit their worker, the company saw their chance to get him off for good.
Sure, the trial might have started with the threat of jail time, but that wouldn't be any good for the company. Carl would still be able to keep his home and property if he was sent to prison. By sending Carl to a retirement home instead, Carl would be forced to sell his house to the company (for much less than they had offered) and would be out of their hair.
Now a retirement home doesn't seem like such a scary place to us. However, to a man who wanted to live a life full of adventure and freedom, a retirement home might as well be a prison. Its basically a place you go when you can't take care of yourself and when your time on earth his ending, something I think Carl fears a whole lot in the beginning of the film.
There's a theory that states that Carl is dead, and Russel is an angel trying to earn his wings by guiding Carl through limbo, and subsequently the last thoughts he had about his life
doesn't this ruin the theory if it is all his imagination?
EXACTLY!
he makes this world that was perfect like an escape or something
Crazy people have incredibly active imaginations.
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Assault is a petty crime. There's just no way he *wouldn't* just get to go home after sentencing. Heck, even repeat offenders wouldn't be sentenced to jailtime for it, unless they'd been there several times already. As a crime, it's barely one step above "I stole a candy bar", and multiple steps below "I stole a TV".
The only theory thus far I've found believable - keep it up!
I actually see carl's journey as him making his way to heaven. The man lived a hard and more than disappointing life; from no child to no more wife, he deserved a balloon/house ride into a place he felt happy and calm. without getting too technical, i think this is a more satisfying theory and gives the story a more beautiful meaning weather it be true or not.
Fell Polley I agree. I heard a theory similar to this. The challenges he went through were supposed to be his trials on his way to heaven, AKA paradise. Gabriel was supposed to be Saint Gabriel.
What if Roosevelt wasn't referring to Theodore, but Franklin?
Unless I am mistaken, wasn't Theodore the adventurer, though-not Franklin? I mean, teddy bears were named after the guy.
Franklin Roosevelt was crippled by polio in 1921 and bound to a wheelchair, so couldn't go on a safari. Plus, like other person said, Teddy Roosevelt was Roosevelt known for being an explorer.
i think it's Franklin
But Franklin had polio and was often in a wheelchair.
my thoughts exactly
I think that you may have gotten street and town mixed up. The post card clearly says, "18 Shackleton" and "Bloomington, P.D." I believe that Shackleton is the street address, not the town because clearly Bloomington is the name of the town that Carl and Ellie met each other and grew up together in.
Wait, but the postcard is to Carl and Ellie. That means that it was meant to be sent BEFORE Ellie died. Which means Carl wouldn't be in jail, right? So the postcard wouldn't be sent to the police department. Other than that, this theory is great, though!
7:59 "Let me know in the towel section below."
lol XD
You can argue that EVERY movie is the protagonist going crazy. Trust me, pick any movie, and try it yourself.
+Joaking WOW. You are right, that is SO universal.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic but i said that because this video is lame because of what i said.
Before going into this, I was skeptical, but you've convinced me in less than 9 minutes that Carl is indeed crazy. About people asking about the Pixar Theory, I think having Carl be one crazy old man doesn't punch a hole through the entire thing--talking dog collars and the like could actually have been invented in Carl's time, and he could just be incorporating those into his fantasies as the human mind is prone to do.
Can I just say one thing!
If he was imagining it why wouldn't he include his wife?
Comment done
I think It's because he only imagined non fully real things ( ohh wait, the child) and she was real?
maybe he still remember his wife's death, even with his mental problem.
His mind has to create a story that could still be "realisitic"
Because Carl's subconsious had to make the fantisy belivible, if not realistic. Lossing his wife was one of the deffining momments of Carl's life, so having her just appear out of nowhere wouldn't work
seriously guys, I don't think Carl is bonkers, I think he is an adventure book author. Thus explaining him going back to the city with Russell.
I thought they were hinting to Kevin being Ellie.
couldn't it have been FDR?
also just a note, shakleton is the name of the street, not the town. bloomington is the town.
+Ellie Bissell totally makes sense they'd buy a house on a street named after a famous explorer too
I hate all Theory's where it goes there crazy the hole time or there all dead or everyone's insane. There just be dark for no reason.
Yeah exactly lol !!! This theory is pretty shit too....the Pixar theory I like and it's not dark, it's not about death or skitzos or mental people. Every theory nowadays is jus someone is crazy or dead.
+Harree Siraj Or in a coma.
That's because it is the 'low hanging fruit', so to speak. If you think about it, how hard is it to just look at any movie/book/etc and say the main character was actually acting all this out in their head? People want to make theories and try to turn stories into something else and this is the simplest way of doing it.
+Vanitas Darkness theories* they're** whole*** they're*** they're*** ....and there shouldn't be a "be" before dark...
-sorry it just bothered me...-
"I'll send you a postcard from paradise falls!"
Who would imagine his idol the villian?!!!
That is a very good point
thank you
I don't know I guess because Carl was secretly jealous of the munts guy, as well as admirer in him?
so he could imagine himself a hero and be victorious
it's called his dream turned into a nightmare
I just have a really hard time accepting this... I mean, the stuff with Muntz and Roosevelt, Muntz could be a big fat liar.
he could be a liar, or he could also be crazy (i mean, hes been in the jungle for so long lol), or he could have been talking about franklin.
Zephammo
FDR had polio and was in a wheelchair for most of his life. it would've been nearly impossible for him to go on a safari
What if Carl was in a comma the whole time
Ms. Turtle he’d probably have to be on his period
Ms. Turtle No I think he would be in an exclamation mark
Atomic Music ah. i guess he probably would be. Thank you for interjecting
😂😂
comma theory hm great!
I I'm in between think about it, Charles hanged with Roosevelt when 8? What if he time traveled though and possibly even helped Boo find Sully [Monsters Inc.] and I believe he could've timed traveled and stayed on the forest because first, he could've found that bird a long time ago. With the technology he holds upon his dogs talking? I mean he could've gone any time to get his technology I don't believe there is capability of him randomly finding any source to make those collars. And those skeletons he has when he realized Carl's lying about Kevin. He could've killed those people not to take the bird so he couldn't go back and also not show himself again I doubt he wanted to go back and spend his time rather time traveling leading again how Boo found Sully in the end of Monsters Inc. [he could've been having an act the whole time tho in the movie but highly doubt that].
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Elite WaffleZ. true
I don't think I can ever watch that movie again.
Same. That just adds to the sadness of the movie.
Kate J Ikr? :(
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+knights of the silver dragon Lol, hi :)
+kacy “Derpypops” wheildon Lol. Harry doesn't take time to mess around with muggle trinkets like I do. He hasn't discovered UA-cam yet
To paraphrase Dumbledore:
Of course he's crazy. But that doesn't mean it's not real.
Wait wait wait WAIT!!! If he was crazy and imagined everything after the court scene, the whole theory of all the movies tying together can't happen? The dogs with the collars that allowed them to talk would never have existed so they could never connect with ratatouille right? I can't remember exactly if it was ratatouille that it was connected to, but I think you might get my point.
PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS
Are you talking about the shadow of dug in ratatouille?
+Disneylover2010 no, theyre talking about the Pixar theory. I suggest you look it up, its a good read
OMG THATS TRUE!!
but it wouldn't stop the whole timeline though and because it's about her theory not everyone going to believe it cause everyone crazy enough to expect talking cars but not a house taken away by balloons? I think his at court for something to do with the death and the owning of the house or something, so I think it's real
Well, what if Pixar is a made-up world? It's a world inside your mind that has a timeline and really events.
+Melody Wizz Yea that could be the real giffy and which makes anything like that in later movies inside a mind would tie with this?
The ZIP Code can give us a clue as to where it is. The ZIP Code 67913 isn't in use. However, if it was in use, it would be near Liberal, Kansas. The first three digits in ZIP Codes represent a central postal facility where mail is sorted and sent to the individual post offices. In rural areas, the digits 01 are then assigned to the central post office in the largest city, and other ZIP Codes are assigned roughly alphabetically. (In urban areas, they just skip assigning the central post office as 01, and just go roughly alphabetically). ZIP Code 67901 is assigned to Liberal, Kansas in the southwest corner of the state, so 67913 would be nearby to facilitate mail delivery.
All of the Muntz-related evidence could equally well be evidence that Muntz is crazy and/or lying.
P.D Stands for Pete Doctor, mate. *DE-BUNK'D*
He says that in another theory
Yea because LAPD means Los Angles Pete Doctor
+MLGAGT Yes it does, always has, and nobody can say otherwise.
But, then, this doesn't tie in with the Pixar Theory
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Pixar theory could still hold up, UP doesn't really affect the Pixar theory at all really. Besides this theory is silly lol i like the Pixar theory tho, but not this one.
Didn't Russell steer the house to Paradise Falls? Im not saying I don't agree with the theory that its all in his head but he doesn't just go to sleep and wake up in Paradise Falls, Russell says he took the house there using the compass so it wasn't just completely random as u described it was explained how the house got there
I've literally stayed up all night watching your videos.
Nice theory but why would he imagine his childhood hero to be evil
Maybe Carl is projecting himself into Muntz?
George Boulter Muntz is imagined as the villain so Carl can become the hero of his own imagination
+SuperCarlinBrothers That is some deep stuff.
If this theory holds any water, then the whole Pixar Theory of everything in the same time line and animals getting smarter wouldn't be true, causing the entire Pixar Theory to collapse
+Syn~ I advocate the "Andy's family is related to them" theory, but I think Ellie is Emma Jean's sister, and Emma Jean is Andy's grandmother. This would go further into cementing Emily as Andy's mother, because it helps fill in/reduce age gaps, and the name "Emily" is similar enough to "Emma" to be a feminine twist on the male tradition of naming a first son "Blank-Blank-Last Name-Junior." Emma Jean feels sorry for her sister because she can't have children, and sends Emily to visit for a few weeks every year. This goes along with the "we" in the "We are having a wonderful time!" If we accept this theory, we can then conclude Carl and Ellie are like another set of "grandparents" to Andy. Now that the relationship is established, how does this explain Carl being crazy? What if it was sent AFTER Ellie died, and Carl had already gone crazy? In reality, the postcard is addressed ONLY to Carl, and he subconsciously puts Ellie's name there? To further this theory, the rest of the address has to be considered, what if "18 Shackleton" is the room number and name of the prison psych ward Carl was placed in? "Bloomington, P.D." is the final piece of that puzzle, although we are still lacking a state, but more on that in a bit. Your next question being "How does Andy get the postcard?" I'm going to shock you: Carl died before "Toy Story 3," and Andy kept it because he saw his grandmother's name on it, and possibly was from the last vacation they went on together with his dad. Going back to the "Bloomington P. D.," there is a "Bloomington, MN." That's right, I just added "Inside Out" to this mess. I blew my own mind with that one. - Knightsaysni
+Nicholas Peterman this doesn't makes sense cus we see Ellies name written on the postcard by Andys perspective, I mean, only if he was also crazy to see her name
***** What of it? I credited the original person at the end.
***** I guess I could have put it in a more prominent place.
Aye its just a theory. Most of anything from this channel is just a theory. Calm ya tits.
I think Roosevelt is the name of one of his dogs. It’s a reference to a famous painting of dogs playing poker.
wait , kevin is a girl?
Yes, Kevin does give birth and male birds can't give birth
@@hollyreay02 what kind of bird is she?
A rainbow ostrich
No, a Snipe
Omg yass
if Carl is crazy, how does that fit in to the Pixar Theory?
+OMG ITS A LLAMA I advocate the "Andy's family is related to them" theory, but I think Ellie is Emma Jean's sister, and Emma Jean is Andy's grandmother. This would go further into cementing Emily as Andy's mother, because it helps fill in/reduce age gaps, and the name "Emily" is similar enough to "Emma" to be a feminine twist on the male tradition of naming a first son "Blank-Blank-Last Name-Junior." Emma Jean feels sorry for her sister because she can't have children, and sends Emily to visit for a few weeks every year. This goes along with the "we" in the "We are having a wonderful time!" If we accept this theory, we can then conclude Carl and Ellie are like another set of "grandparents" to Andy. Now that the relationship is established, how does this explain Carl being crazy? What if it was sent AFTER Ellie died, and Carl had already gone crazy? In reality, the postcard is addressed ONLY to Carl, and he subconsciously puts Ellie's name there? To further this theory, the rest of the address has to be considered, what if "18 Shackleton" is the room number and name of the prison psych ward Carl was placed in? "Bloomington, P.D." is the final piece of that puzzle, although we are still lacking a state, but more on that in a bit. Your next question being "How does Andy get the postcard?" I'm going to shock you: Carl died before "Toy Story 3," and Andy kept it because he saw his grandmother's name on it, and possibly was from the last vacation they went on together with his dad. Going back to the "Bloomington P. D.," there is a "Bloomington, MN." That's right, I just added "Inside Out" to this mess. I blew my own mind with that one.
+KnightsaysNi But what about Riley from inside out, if you watched his video on it, you would see the evidence that Riley is possibly Andy's mom.
I just wanted to say this i dont really want to make it a huge deal i just wanted to make a point.
Watch the video was how Inside Out fits into the theory. It could be along the same lines on how Up fits into it all.
+KnightsaysNi wow that makes sense!!!
+Alexis Antonelli But Inside Out is obviously based on present times... Notice Dad's cell phone, etc. How does that work, unless Toy Story is based in the close future?
I would say different Roosevelt but Teddy was the only Roosevelt manly enough to find a leopard-tortoise.
KnightCaster
plus, FDR had polio and was in a wheelchair for most of his life. it would've been nearly impossible for him to go on a safari
Not to mention he talks to his house like she’s his dead wife. In the move russle uses this to his advantage to persuade him to keep Kevin.
And Carl isn’t denying Elle said that. The crazy thing is, he looks up at his house and says “but I told him no!” Like he’s the tough strick parent.
Not to mention of Elle was alive she would argue with him about keeping the bird or not, so maybe it’s his way of coping with her death and keeping himself from going COMPLETELY insane with grief.
There’s also a theory I can make to go with this. Is this Carl’s mind helping him get over Elle? And move on?
Isn't it Shackleton like the explorer
Maybe by "Roosevelt," Charles Muntz meant the other Roosevelt - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who was president in the 1930s and 1940s.
I have so many arguments about this video, however this "rant" is just my opinion. First up, the questions at 1:44 with the punishment. Yes, he does go there because he assaulted someone, but at that point he has nothing left. Ellie died, and he doesn't want anyone touching or moving his house. Also, the court may have a rule on a specific age they can put people in jail, and out of everything bad he could have done, that's the only thing as we the audience knows, except for maybe swearing. (There was a "swear" jar in the beginning of the movie when Ellie was alive and they had to use it for their car {See the Marriage of Carl and Ellie}.) Second, it's Pixar. Like most of the people who commented in the "towel section" say that Pixar do some crazy stuff, and I agree. At 3:00, with where Carl wanted to go, he didn't know until he hit the ground. Once looking out the window, there was just the sun, house with balloons, and clouds. Plus, he could have ended anywhere but Paradise Falls. Ellie planned to go there, and Carl promised that he would take her. He never thought about going. (Beginning where she's in his room and telling him where she got the picture.) With the badges that belong to Russell, what if they were a real thing in the movie? Russell couldn't have been his dream child because how could Russell have really dark hair when neither Ellie or Carl had what looked like brownish colored hair? With Kevin, his feathers could have been a coincidence, and she may have had a spouse then before Carl and Russel came to the Falls. With the Charles Muntz thing, its another non-realistic thing. Yes, people meet their idols, but with the ages of Carl and Charles, that can't be done. Before meeting Ellie, there was a video on Charles telling the audience in the film what he was like. Of course throughout the years, it could have been different, but sometimes people don't change. A lot of people live in the wild so they can get away from the "boring" life. The things that Muntz has and as to why he has so many is because he could have been an architect who found those bones. The Roosevelt thing could have been because old people could can have their information wrong, or maybe Roosevelt came across Charles when he was a kid and maybe became apart of Teddy's family. Stuff like that can happen, resulting to how Charles could have maybe received the Leopard Turtle and the blimp. Think about it!!! Finally, going back to the postcard, Pixar may have just made up a place in the USA. Why? Maybe there's another policy where they cannot use real addresses in movies, just to make sure that if it actually was, someone couldn't go to that house knocking on the door. And that is it! Again this is just my opinion, and I am NOT arguing that any of this information in this UA-cam video is or is not real. That is all I have to say. :) PS- If Carl was crazy, he wouldn't be behind bars. He would in an asylum.
But it was addressed to both of them, Ellie died before the assault
interesting theory but theres one flaw at the end of the movie we see Russells mother how do you explain that
And doug
brian griebel Actually you might be seeing Phyllis in that scene.
Carl may have gotten his dream child, but he wasn't actually his child. So he had to create who the real mother was, so he may have imagined Russell's mom.
Could be Emma Jean, between his craziness he could have added the girl he was in love with before Ellie.
However if munce was the equivalent of all of carls childhood fantasies, why did he suddenly become evil?
I agree that is a big part he missed
***** probably because all his fantasies of adventure that he never managed to achieve while Ellie was alive bring him pain to think about. So muntz is the personification of his pain?
Maybe when that guy turned evil it was the same time doctors were giving Carl anti-hallucinogen meds.
***** Good Game Central SaviourInDistress Muntz becomes the villain so Carl can become the hero of his own imagination
SuperCarlinBrothers okay that makes sense, however I feel you should have mentioned that in the video as it is a big hole in your theory.
Muntz could be referring to Franklin D. Roosevelt the 32nd president. This would be more logical because FDR died in 1945. Muntz would have been at most 34 making is tale a little bit more believable. But Carl is potentially crazy so only Pixar them self can confirm either argument
I kept waiting for you to mention how he slowly progresses physically and by the end he's climbing ladders and anchoring houses like its cake. so either he's crazy in the beginning because he thinks he needs his cane or he's crazy after he's arrested. good video, i love your connections
Please just remember the postcard was in the house when Ellie was alive.
Eli Pierce The whole movie is his imagination, but what we see up to the point of the courtroom is true, what happens after is imagination
SuperCarlinBrothers But the point with the post card and Ellie is before the court house scene. The post card is even seen when Carl and Ellie are still young. stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1382177_o.gif Top right corner at the beginning and end of this gif you can see the post card in question.
I love how they both "talk" to each other like: "hey j" lel😂😂
This guy would be great at Cinema Sins.
Where else have I heard that sound that plays when their faces combine in the intro?
my sister walked in and read the video title, then told me "i accidentally chipped a piece of carl off the wall"
Nanci Shur'tugal I don't get it?
my sister is crazy
Nanci Shur'tugal
What
Me either
Um.... If humans evolved into monsters in the Pixar theory... Is it possible that crazy Carl, on the way to monster, became a llama, and became Carl the Llama?
Why Carl?
Nope. Carl is not crazy, and there are several reasons why. First of all, P.D. is an easter egg that stands for Pete Doctor. Second of all, the postcard appears in Andy's room in Toy Story 3. Why would Andy have the postcard of a crazy old man rotting in prison? Thirdly, The post card says, "We are having a swell time. Wish you were here!" If that card was sent from a prison, why would it say that? Fourthly, Muntz is probably the crazy one. I mean, come on! That makes much more sense! He scribbled all over his maps and is obsessed with a bird! The bonus features on the Blu-Ray/DVD literally stated that Muntz's air ship was like his mind, it gots darker as they went deeper. No wonder he hasn't got his facts strait! Also, Muntz was able to live longer thanks to Kenvin's eggs so... yeah...
Lastly, and most importantly, Carl's house was able to float because of magic. No joke. If you believe the Pixar Theory (which, if you're reading this, you probably do) you hopefully know that magic, or something similar to magic, as existed throughout the Pixar Timeline. And what is one of the most important ingredients for there to be magic in the Pixar Universe? Wood! Carl's house is made almost entirely out of wood! He might have got the idea to fly his house with balloons thanks, in part, to all the time he spent with WOOD! So no, Carl has not lost all of his marbles, he's just eccentric because of wood. Game Set Match ;)
Jet The Guy it was not sent from Carl and Ellie it was sent to Carl and Ellie from Emma Jean
"of course this is happening inside your head but why on earth should that mean its not real"
-dumbledore
did anyone else hear "comment in the towel section"?
I heard it too!
I hear it in EVERY epidode
+Skits, by Gabe yes. idon't get that at all. and both of the brothers do it. i wonder why?
Yes! (:
+Skits, by Gabe I always hear that
Wait... Do prisons let their old senile inmates mail postcards with inaccurate addresses? Or is toy story made up by Carl too?
Christopher Caldwell They can on certain occasions, depending on the circumstances of the arrest, imprisonment, and trial.
Either way that post card is addressed to Carl also not Andy
I'm starting to not like these theory while they are very creative I feel like they are sort of tainting the spirit of these films. I by no means am saying to stop them because they are interesting I guess they just aren't for me anymore at least
Rockerdude17 I agree. I'm not particularly scinicle, but these theories are getting a bit nit-picky.
fletcherjeff55 Rockerdude17 I can totally see where you guys are coming from, we by no means want to take away from the enjoyment of the films and are really just super fans who like discuss different possibilities - They may seem nitpicky but what I love about Pixar is how detailed they are about everything, because its so precisely animated they have to make decisions about every little thing, like the date on the magazine or what address Carl will have. Their reasons could be totally random, but with the amount of intentional easter eggs in their movies its hard to think there is no meaning behind some of their details. When we do a theory vid like this we like to have as much evidence as possible so it doesnt come off like a Creepy Pasta post which often feel like mostly conjecture - but hey its just a theory!
SuperCarlinBrothers A GAME THEORY! Er, Pixar, I mean, :P
SuperCarlinBrothers i totally agree Pixar movies are very keen on detail and i think its great that people can have fun playing around with these and making their own very creative and clever theories. i think you guys do a great job at coming up with these ideas just that i guess i like to keep believing in the magic and incredible nature of these movies. i'm a huge fan of your videos and you should definitely keep coming up with these really neat theories because obviously people love watching them as much as i assume you love coming up with them. i guess i'm just not a part of these people but i am looking forward to all your future videos. :) :)
I think that Paradise Falls is sort of like the lost world, time moves differently there. Remember Charles Muntz had specimens of what looked like giant sloths and extinct prehistoric mammals, and even Kevin looks like a prehistoric bird. This explains why Charles Muntz is almost the same age as Carl. Time has moved differently there. And remember that they even say it's "a land lost in time". This even explains why there is a storm barrier surounding paradise falls, and a mysterious mist, yet when you land there the sky is blue. Its also based off of angel falls in Venezuela, where they filmed the lost world. But hey, thats just a theory.. a film theory.
What about the end when Carl goes to the Boy Scouts place withe the little boy
he still crazy???
You have ruined the movie for me. Now all I can think about is " the man is crazy, this is all happening in his head" man. Should not have watched this video
at least it is not as bad as mario is mental theory *cough* game theory *cough
Seriously, you shouldn't have watched the video. YOU ruined it for yourself.
+Treven Stanley Yeah........
+Treven Stanley Yeah........
Well you know the title is pretty clear of what the video is about...
ok, maybe Carl is not crazy. Maybe the idea of his house flying away is the process of his brain experiencing death. Theory Carl died. Maybe the boy isn't some random kid but the kid the his wife and him lost in the doctors office. helping him achieve his dream in a metaphysical sense to help process him in to the after life. Maybe the dog is just more of a messenger telling them to stay on track to go to heaven instead of being lured away to the dark side (hell) because there is no return.
Please tell me your thoughts on this
The dog does not make scence. We’re you just looking at one of the guys conspiracy theory’s and think “hey, I should make up a crazy hell part that the dog is trying to help Carl find his way home,ok”. Because what if the dog didn’t have the collar?
Even if Carl was in the Psych Department [P. D.] I do believe Russell was real, and he and Russell did have an "adventure" and a bonded relationship. Carl was for Russell what his M.I.A. father was not, encouraging, and Russel was for Carl what his M.I.A. family was, caring. In many ways if the entire "adventure" were imagines, the ending had to have that depth for me.
note: the same continent. Don't divide America. We are one.
Julia Kurczyn I agree :)
+Ani0227 I'm so glad people are able to correct each other without hurling insults around.
Just because you want it to be one continent doesn't mean it is one
+Caitlin warren Atlas and world maps disagree with you.
+Julia Kurczyn Ur right, but we can all agree here that we understood what he wanted to say Also that it may not be correct saying that South America for example is another continent, but pll still say it and we all understand it.
I think Muntz was referring to....ya know, franklin roosevelt?
im not into this pixar conspiracy shit but damn you had me at the end... i can at least believe carl is in a jail and nuts. i've never even seen the movie, and i believe what you say wow, you make a good point cuz it's actually pretty fucked up, maybe prophetic for us all.....WE ARE ALL CARL
Justin Ballinger Well, the video showing Muntz getting discredited is BEFORE he even MEETS Ellie so he cant have imagined that. His skepticism for the existence of Muntz is therefore weakened. Also, he CANNOT imagine the boy as the boy appears with badges and adventurous spirit BEFORE he goes to court which is what allegedly made him insane. As for the snipe's existence, its genitalia is undocumented as its an undiscovered species so a child who hasnt even hit puberty and doesnt know bird genitals mislabeling a birds sex would be VERY believable. Hell, Im 20 and I cant tell you most birds' sexes.
As for the balloons, it would be impossible to animate that many millions of balloons. Keep in mind we are dealing with movies that have talking cars, bugs, tree spirits, and animals. Sometimes its not all EXACTLY realistic.
Also, if we consider the movie to have come out as a documentary sometime after the actual events transpire and we can also reasonably assume that the car wasnt new that year and the poster could easily be an older one, the age of Muntz/his placement in time would be off. If you add 4 or 5 years, Muntz would be 13. Since he did do alot of collecting, his family is likely rich to allow him to do it at such a young age. This would explain political influence that allows him to be with Roosevelt, WHO btw, was a skilled politician would give a skeleton to a boy who found it to gain political influence. Roosevelt was always more interested in live game anyway.
As for Shackleton, there are MANY Shackletons in the US. Also, if he was insane, explain why Ellie didnt come back or why he encountered so much hardship to get where he wanted to go. So many things could have gone so much better for him if he was insane but didnt.
I am unconvinced by the evidence.
Thoughts?
+Gabriel Corazza maybe Ellie didn't come back because it's his own imagination and sometimes in your by own imagination you symbolize stuff from real things I your life like the bird is to symbolize Ellie.
SuPerNatuRaL SiMMeR that doesnt make much sense. Could you explain it more?
And do you have any ideas on my other points
+Justin Ballinger The big shortcoming is that it's an easier assumption to say that Carl went to the Assisted Living Facility, they overdosed him on something because of the violent outburst (happens a lot believe it or not), Russell either found out that the crazy man went to the home or was visiting with his troop and found Carl. Russell, or his parent, or his troop leader points out the over-medicated man and they tone it down, but the end of the movie Carl's still in the home but the meds are gone and Russell's allowed to take him out for a while. Even easier is to just say Assisted Living Facility with Dementia, and it's even possibly what they were going for.
+SuperCarlin Brothers
The Postcard is addressed to Calr AND Ellie. So WHY just Carl being crazy?
on the safari with Roosevelt, only one kid could do it. Indiana Jones
Ok but how would this explain Charles muntz being the villain and turning on carl?
They gave him medication and his brain attempted to shatter his dilutions? Or based on the time period, electo-therapy!
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