When Repairs Go Bad

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  • @buster52
    @buster52 27 днів тому +14

    First mistake: Taking your new D35 to GC for repairs.

    • @TribalGuitars
      @TribalGuitars 27 днів тому +2

      Exactly

    • @ryangunwitch-black
      @ryangunwitch-black 26 днів тому

      One day I walked into a GC and saw my dad’s vintage 355 sitting out on a bench in the middle of the sales floor with its guts all hanging out. Like anyone could just walk up and start plucking off components. Lol My dad was not happy. Lesson learned. The tech who was working on it is actually a great tech and a really good guy.

    • @theguitarfather1837
      @theguitarfather1837 26 днів тому

      Yep...I got a story that you wouldn't believe....got a brand new Les Paul Classic out of it though lol....

    • @xray606
      @xray606 14 днів тому

      That thought instantly went through probably 75% of the people watching. lol

  • @Impulse21s
    @Impulse21s 27 днів тому +5

    I bought my Martin J12-40M in 1985 brand new from a mom & pop who's long gone now, and toured that thing all over the world. The Bridge has pulled up, the binding has come loose, I've chipped the front, worn out the nut, broken a tuner, ect. ect., but it's mine, and after 40 years I can't imagine not playing it. Every time I've taken it to a Martin repair shop expecting to pay, and every time Martin has covered it under warranty without me even asking. I don't know if that's not the norm, but I own 4 Martins now, and I'll be a Martin customer for life.

  • @homegrownson
    @homegrownson 27 днів тому +5

    What I always hated were people that were unhappy with Work, that remained Silent to Vendor but broadcast their dissatisfaction without ever giving Vendor a Chance to make it right

  • @thesparkedbrain
    @thesparkedbrain 27 днів тому +13

    Sweetwater does an inspection. If they missed unleveled frets on a high end guitar, my rep would have gotten me a new one in exchange immediately. They always go above and beyond when you have a good relationship with your rep. I would have never taken a new Martin guitar for any repairs. It is either perfect or I want another.

  • @SamHollidayV
    @SamHollidayV 27 днів тому +7

    So few good repair dudes out there

    • @bluegryp
      @bluegryp 25 днів тому

      Yeah that’s the issue. If you’re not in a major metropolitan area, you’re likely screwed. Had that issue with an amp tech. Could not find anyone to repair my vintage fender amp. Finally found a good local guy but if he ever retires i don’t know what I’ll do.

    • @SamHollidayV
      @SamHollidayV 24 дні тому

      @@bluegryp Dude even major metro areas it's hard for Amps. I'm in the Miami area, there is one fender warrantee approved Amp tech. He is super old and lives way up in West Palm, waiting list was 6 weeks.

  • @MarcStanton1
    @MarcStanton1 27 днів тому +2

    This person must be young and patient, as they’re trying to be kind. I’ve been married twice as long as Jonathan and would probably not able to hold back my anger. I would be tempted to talk to Martin let them know you’re buying a Taylor because your dream of journey buying a new Martin D35 is a freaking nightmare and this is BS (How does it get to 7 months for a saddle adjustment and fret job?). I don’t think it’s ever out of line for the customer to go around the shop to the manufacturer to make sure they’re getting what they need and want and deserve.
    Martin wants you to be happy with your purchase, I suggest you help them help you be happy.

  • @DK-rv5tt
    @DK-rv5tt 27 днів тому +4

    At the beginning, I would have asked for an exchange from the original seller, and at this point, I'd contact Martin and ask them to help sort it out since it was defective from the start.

  • @PaulEldridge1
    @PaulEldridge1 23 дні тому

    Love these types of stories - especilly when the lesson is universal. When I was much (much) younger (OK it was the 80's/90's), I worked with a bank. They used a management consultant to help change the way the bank dealt with clients (cradle to grave). Much of the approach was based around a book (obviously more than that) titled "Moments of Truth" (Jan Carlson's telling of how Scandanavian Airlines was bought back from the brink). The basic premise was that staff were empowered to deal with/solve customer issues "on the spot" - without recrimination. The dividend was across the whole client-base. One good deed (even if it "cost") could have a huge multiplier effect. Take a single hit and reep the rewards. Putting the customer first sounds simple, not everyone does it but when they do...I'm glad that this guitar owner's problems were dealt with in the way described.

  • @ludvanlazarz
    @ludvanlazarz 26 днів тому

    This is tough. Through a lot of disappointment and waiting in vain I eventually bit the bullet and tried to learn to do as much as possible myself. One part of this is training to look out for red flags and problems before buying something, and one part is not trusting repair people in general, its better to learn to at least set up your own instruments. There are some things I dont do such as refrets and finish work. Getting a super glued corian nut out of a clean Gibson etc. Other than that, no one touches 😂

  • @NappingDad
    @NappingDad 26 днів тому

    Have never tried it on a guitar, but if you get a dent in furniture (real wood, not the IKEA stuff) you can soak a folded up paper towel in hot water, then press it onto the dent and leave it there for an hour. The dent will usually come out or be much less noticable.

  • @rowbags3017
    @rowbags3017 27 днів тому +1

    I'd have contacted Sweetwater originally when the only problem seemed to be the high action. That would have made them aware early on that there was an issue and they could have rectified it themselves. The sad thing is that the owner may end up with a guitar that he'd set his heart on, but which has now lost its "magic" for him after all the messing about.

  • @Tony_Leonardi.
    @Tony_Leonardi. 27 днів тому +1

    whoever did the damage should be responsible and just take care of it

  • @larryshields2302
    @larryshields2302 27 днів тому

    Had a terrible terrible nut job done at Guitar Center…I bought an Fender American VII 61 strat and it had buzzing on a couple strings brought it in to Guitar Center to fix(worst idea ever) and they broke the nut during the setup.
    They installed a crappy cheap nut on it (without telling me) and handed it to me in terrible shape 😫. It played so bad and I realized the cheap nut swap(in store thank god) and a the huge gash in the fretboard that had created from taking the old nut off .

  • @honkytonkinson9787
    @honkytonkinson9787 27 днів тому +1

    I got a really nice strat 20 years ago that came with a fancy Floyd licensed fender trem. The one on my guitar wasn’t working 100% so I took it to my local shop that happened to be an authorized Fender repair shop. Fender sent them a replacement bridge for free so now I have a backup for parts it I need it, and it’s kinda rare.

  • @Gmarthe
    @Gmarthe 27 днів тому

    I had a Fender acoustic I got from Musician’s Friend and almost 2 years later, the bridge gave and they had me bring it to GC under warranty. They couldn’t fix it and they no longer made the model at the time so Fender shipped me a brand new next step up. Great service all around.

  • @gregbrown5987
    @gregbrown5987 26 днів тому

    I called your store and got the name a great repair guy who put on new loaded pickguard and did a really nice setup of a strat that my mom painted for me, treated it as if it were his own (cool guy to hang out and talk with in his shop as well)

  • @TommySG1
    @TommySG1 26 днів тому +1

    I’ve seen a few ‘repairs’ from GC and of course I’m not speaking for all of them because there’s some out there with a few decent techs. With that being said, unless you know who’s back there doing the repairs just don’t lol…..
    Find a reputable repair shop and if there aren’t any near you then ship it to one that is even if they’re in another state. Most repairs can be done yourself too if it’s something trivial like sanding back a saddle or even a nut slot that’s a tad bit too high with a few hand files.

  • @brettpennington2951
    @brettpennington2951 27 днів тому

    I've been fortunate. Every issue I've had with guitars or equipment the seller allowed timely returns. Except one, and that was a Reverb online sale issue case. As for my repairs, they have all been, thankfully, functional. Maybe not the most elegant, but fully functional.

  • @PeterMoore350
    @PeterMoore350 27 днів тому +1

    Another great video from my fave Bat Duo or should i say b@tsh1t crazyduo ??? 😂🤣😂🤣
    I could listen to you two prattle on for hours over a few beers.
    Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘

  • @JDTreadwell
    @JDTreadwell 27 днів тому +1

    Mistakes and problems happen. Good on the shop for fessing up and offering to fix it. Now, they really had an opportunity to make a customer for life but they blew it. Should have offered to fix or replace. Especially if he had his eye on something specific. Now even if they come back with that offer it’s after a big deal was made.

  • @joeandreana2645
    @joeandreana2645 27 днів тому

    My only local shop left (other than GC) left after the pandemic does reliable repairs but their staff is awful (one associate told me the Danelectro Pro I brought in for a setup was sold at gas stations). I wish I had the options your area seems to have!

  • @MrBigggs
    @MrBigggs 27 днів тому

    Had a brand new martin 000-28 that needed a slight drop in action from the saddle. Before I knew what I was doing I took it to a tech at GC. They tossed the saddle on a belt sander and basically took the saddle so far down the strings were on the frets entirely, the guy then rips a piece of cardboard off a used pack of strings and jams it under the bridge (with some of the cardboard hanging out and visible by the way) then hands it back to me and says “good as new” that was the last time a gc tech touched anything I own

  • @dylanlamb8710
    @dylanlamb8710 27 днів тому +1

    I’ve steamed out some pretty decent dents, and it’s an amazing technique for issues like this. So when they say they’ll “respray” it, I’ll bet they would just take a wet paper towel and an iron to that dent. Makes them disappear…better on bare wood, but works for all types of dents and finishes.

    • @TribalGuitars
      @TribalGuitars 27 днів тому

      That's what I was thinking. But, if it actually needed a respray then what the hell happened to it? Resprays aren't cheap and they take a LOT of skill, so to me it seems like they would just be sending it back to the factory to begin with and they could have gone with several options from replacing the whole top to swapping for a new one and they can swap the top and polish the whole thing and sell it for new, B-stock, open box, etc.

  • @19sickboy71
    @19sickboy71 26 днів тому

    The only time I have issues with repairs is when I do them..lol

  • @b3pahunter546
    @b3pahunter546 27 днів тому

    Took my 1st guitar to Johnny for a string change at the local guitar shop, who called me a week later to report that my guitar was trashed and asked if I wanted it back. I went to get it and he had somehow broken the bridge. It was an Alvarez. I gave it to a kid.

  • @noelmcmahon4566
    @noelmcmahon4566 27 днів тому +3

    Why would u not get Sweetwater to fix it originally. The mistake was going to GC

  • @rogertinker1813
    @rogertinker1813 27 днів тому

    Everybody is different, but when I was told the frets were not right, I might have got a second tech to look at it, then asked Sweetwater to replace it, thank you this was an interesting story though sad as well

  • @Bill-6033
    @Bill-6033 27 днів тому

    Good advice. Unfortunately I believe Casino is an exception rather than the norm at least in my experience dealing with guitar stores.

  • @paulh4954
    @paulh4954 27 днів тому

    I love the philosophy of Casino Guitars!

  • @tonepilot
    @tonepilot 27 днів тому +1

    The repair shop that caused the dent should have fessed up about it. At least they didn't accuse him of causing the damage but still. The shop that caused the damage should have offered him the difference between what he paid and what the current value would be without the dent. If he was done with this 'cursed' guitar by this point, they should have offered him the full used value (without the dent) against another Martin.

  • @garrysimmons111
    @garrysimmons111 27 днів тому

    My local shop (a fine shop BTW) chipped off a small bit of the neck when putting a new nut on my Telecaster. Evidently the new tech (the old/great luthier they had retired) didn't make sure that lacquer was cut everywhere before popping the old nut out. Sigh. He glued the chip back on after installing the new nut. It works fine and looks OK, but seeing that glued in piece still irks me years later. The shop only charged me for the cost of the new nut (no labor). Sometimes stuff happens. They were nice enough about it. But I haven't brought them any repair work since as they also managed to screw up the wiring on a pickup swap I had them do on the same guitar (prior to the nut swap).

  • @southernpanda33
    @southernpanda33 27 днів тому

    Johnathan, that’s an excellent shirt. Well done, sir.

  • @tonepilot
    @tonepilot 27 днів тому

    P.S. Love Jonathan's T. It was funny when a few months ago he was wearing the same short sleeved Wrangler shirt that I was wearing when watching the video. Yay for Walmart.

  • @AssuredHomeInspect
    @AssuredHomeInspect 27 днів тому

    Next time just by from Casino

  • @hod8931
    @hod8931 27 днів тому

    Two great shops for set up on new guitars, for me, wildwood and wildcat. 55 point inspection at a store i know....not so much!
    Had a 90's PRS McCarty 2 years ago got a ding in the corner, and a gash on the top.🤬
    Was at a friends mom and pop store with a sub contractor for repairs and set up..

  • @theguitarfather1837
    @theguitarfather1837 26 днів тому

    I now do all the set ups and neck adjustments myself....ill never trust my guitat with someone else ever again lol

  • @PeterMoore350
    @PeterMoore350 27 днів тому +1

    So Fender has the Mustang? Where’s the Fender Dodge Challenger or the Fender Plymouth ‘Cuda ?
    Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘

  • @jackrecht
    @jackrecht 27 днів тому

    Hey guys, I love the channel, but was wondering if you might consider getting better mics? The lava often make your voices sound muffled and hard to understand. I feel your content deserves to be heard clearly, and no shade intended. Thanks for your consideration.

  • @thomasallen832
    @thomasallen832 25 днів тому

    There’s some sweet water nightmare videos out there too! But only a fool would buy a guitar online to start with! And a fool and his money will soon part.

  • @petersouthwell5971
    @petersouthwell5971 27 днів тому +1

    Man I hate Guitar Center employees for real. And they're technicians are ridiculous idiots. I have stories but take to long to tell. But I have multiple stories. My experience at Guitar Center is pretty standard. I go in.. Can't believe how many guitars they have.. spend 40 minutes trying to get help... End up leaving the store swearing to never go there again.
    Sigh. Thank God for smaller stores that know what they're doing like you guys!

  • @TimTrutone
    @TimTrutone 27 днів тому

    6:44 for a minute I thought he was going to start singing "Live Forever" by Oasis. "I said maybe....!!!!"

  • @JiminTennessee
    @JiminTennessee 27 днів тому

    Deep Thoughts boys....

  • @MatthewBaron
    @MatthewBaron 27 днів тому +2

    It doesn't cost anything to NOT be an a-hole.

  • @jeffzimmerman2004
    @jeffzimmerman2004 26 днів тому

    What a cluster! Why wouldn't you send back to Sweetwater for setup?

  • @guywholikescheese97
    @guywholikescheese97 27 днів тому

    Man, at that price no amount of mental anguish is acceptable. No, this is your guitar now not mine.

  • @johnwashburn3793
    @johnwashburn3793 27 днів тому

    For what it's worth...my personal philosophy is to not mess with a new guitar for a good while. I want to allow the guitar to settle into its new environment. I thought the CEO 7 was a bit high when I picked it up from you guys, especially when compared to the 000-17 that was next to it. I am glad I did nothing as it is great two years later (I was just playing it while listening to you).

  • @JediJkB81
    @JediJkB81 26 днів тому

    I dropped a strat once. The gig bag strap broke and the guitar went down, breaking the strap button. I fixed it myself but it wasn’t pretty.

  • @Steve.Cutler
    @Steve.Cutler 27 днів тому

    I agree with just get him a new one and work out the old one later.

  • @TheDrunkenScoundrel
    @TheDrunkenScoundrel 26 днів тому

    Me: I think I would like to work on guitars.
    Me After Hearing This Story: Nope.

  • @bluegryp
    @bluegryp 25 днів тому

    Not quite the same thing but I bought a custom shop martin vts om-42. I noticed right away the intonation was off and the guitar just sounded dead. I sent it in to martin to look at it and they determined it needed a neck rest. I got it back and the guitar sounds better but intonation is still slightly off and now the heel binding doesn’t quite line up with the body’s binding. I brought it to the attention of Martin and asked that they remake my guitar or provide me with a refund. I didn’t feel it was acceptable for a $7500 brand new guitar to need a neck reset that I will now have to disclose if I ever sell it. Also I obviously didn’t find it acceptable that the guitar now had this cosmetic issue. Martin refused to fix the issues and refused to refund or remake my guitar. I don’t know if I’m being unreasonable but it still really irks me.

  • @misternobody4786
    @misternobody4786 27 днів тому

    It’s not the damage done per se, it’s what you do to repair the damage

  • @friedtaters8940
    @friedtaters8940 27 днів тому +1

    We can rebuild it stronger faster

  • @evalonious
    @evalonious 20 днів тому

    I had to take my baritine to two shops to get right...$$$

  • @ChrisC-v5z
    @ChrisC-v5z 24 дні тому

    Right boot.

  • @jackhood4448
    @jackhood4448 27 днів тому

    My dad said things went a little sideways when I was born

  • @DiegoOrtiz96
    @DiegoOrtiz96 27 днів тому +1

    Poor guy 😢

  • @umrmech84
    @umrmech84 27 днів тому +1

    Pretend you paid an extra $2k to have Tom Murphy relic it for you. Of course, I guess he probably doesn't do independent work anymore.

  • @danrunnoft6642
    @danrunnoft6642 27 днів тому

    I say, keep it and turn it into a relic.

  • @MayorMcCheese2000
    @MayorMcCheese2000 27 днів тому +1

    Baxter's suggested course of action is the only acceptable course of action for a shop. The fact that they damaged a guitar and then attempted to give it to the client without even disclosing the damage is red flag city! They're an authorized dealer which means that's on them and Martin to figure out, not the client, and they should have replaced his guitar with a new one ASAP as Baxter suggested and then dealt with the rest themselves. Them kinda low balling me would have been the last straw if I was this guy and I would have gone scorched earth on their asses!
    A french polished varnish wouldn't have this issue though... nobody else in the entirely of the woodworking industry uses Nitro on wood for good reason, and the cost of that poor decision should be placed squarely on the manufacturers shoulders and not the client.

  • @chrisfain3612
    @chrisfain3612 27 днів тому

    OK, I don’t run a guitar business. I’ve bought many guitars in my 50 years but if I take it to somewhere and they acknowledge that they damage the guitar and it was new I would expect them to give me a full refund or replace it with a brand new one. The money we’re talking about with guitars nowadays, unacceptable.

  • @explorervango880
    @explorervango880 27 днів тому

    Not the puppy! She loved my mom.

  • @James-js7fk
    @James-js7fk 18 днів тому

    For the free guitar - shouldn’t it be “six strings attached” instead of “no strings attached”

  • @b3pahunter546
    @b3pahunter546 27 днів тому

    P.S. not the Johnny in this video. It was 35 years ago in TN

  • @SteveR5954
    @SteveR5954 27 днів тому

    Hope Martin and Sweetwater just replace the guitar. Perhaps sweetwater could sort out a setup on the new one for the customer as well so he doesnt face the same process again of finding someone trustworthy to do it etc?

  • @kevinwalsh9974
    @kevinwalsh9974 27 днів тому +1

    Sweetwater would have taken it back at the start. I know from experience. He created this whole situation which is unfortunate

  • @TeeFetch
    @TeeFetch 25 днів тому

    "sometimes"

  • @Mooneydude75
    @Mooneydude75 27 днів тому

    Sweetwater missed it and the damage was done during a warranty repair. They need to be kissing his ass.

  • @user-lt4pw7rv2l
    @user-lt4pw7rv2l 27 днів тому

    If you get a guitar, that’s an acoustic and you don’t like the action on it. It’s usually not anything but neck angle. Send them back.

  • @thmmke6926
    @thmmke6926 27 днів тому

    It’s as simple as having your kid in a china shop, if you break it you buy it,

  • @tonepilot
    @tonepilot 27 днів тому

    13:53 So, you're giving away a guitar with no strings??? lol

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black 26 днів тому

    The solution? Just buy a Taylor (I Would Never TM) from Casino! ❤

  • @The11eleven
    @The11eleven 26 днів тому

    Give him a new D35. Then, if he wants to trade it in, it’s a separate issue. Fix the mistake first

  • @t.p.sheppard1270
    @t.p.sheppard1270 27 днів тому

    Cfta

  • @mikemorgan4774
    @mikemorgan4774 27 днів тому

    If his wife hadn't said something, (I think) he would have been okay with a minor ding. His "problem" now is all about keeping HER happy, am I right or am I right fellas? The truth is he can't ever make her understand why a guy needs a $3500 guitar, and fact that it's gonna get dings on it soon enough anyway.

  • @michaelpacinus242
    @michaelpacinus242 27 днів тому

    Banter = bad
    Staying on topic = good

  • @LekkerDops
    @LekkerDops 27 днів тому +1

    Do it yourself if.you can, most guitar tech work isn't that hard. I setup all of my guitars, better than a tech generally gets. L because I know what I am after. If you need a neck reset or more, find a professional luthier who knows what they are doing. That's not easy to do.

  • @PeterMoore350
    @PeterMoore350 27 днів тому

    Another great video from my fave Bat Duo or should i say b@tsh1t crazyduo ??? 😂🤣😂🤣
    I could listen to you two prattle on for hours over a few beers.
    Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘