Hey all! Just want to mention, because i forgot to in this video, that in the first combo, you summon Crystron Citree off of Tristalos in order to synchro 2 + 2 + 5 into Quariongandrax! Hope this video helped!
Also! For the sulf + discard combo, you can instead of sending tristalos off of sulfudhole, you can send thystvern, thystvern add trist, normal trist, and then you have the same endboard but with inclusion in grave!! For the just inclusion combo, you can do something similar to end on a better endboard!!
@@TristanShuffles thank you!! I set them ages ago, and then i think they rotated out of db so you cant get them now, so i was like “sure i’ll keep these” turns out, that was a great idea
Ah yes, this definitely looks a lot more reasonable than the extremely jank glaive blaster line I'd come up with... Tidal is absurdly good in the deck and I have no idea why I somehow wound up running it entirely as a small world bridge without even considering the effect, seems like it probably boosts every variant of the deck. Anyways, couple questions: -I'm not asking for a full decklist or anything, but I was wondering which of the other crystrons you'd consider running? Specifically, Prasiortle (the green one) seems sometimes nice as an extender off of sulfudhole (can send thystvern + prasiortle to essentially summon out any maindeck crystron you want), and it offers a unique level that you can't access elsewhere, but I'm not sure whether that's, good? Similarly, the other extra deck crystrons not mentioned here - Quandax probably requires Prasiortle or weird Rosenix lines to get out, but you're not machine-locked on the opponent's turn when using it, which could enable some weirdness (stardust warrior for summon negate after making inzektor?). Ametrix seems obviously awful, but Phoenix on the other hand is probably pretty good going into heavy backrow decks, and there's not really an alternative 5 to use to make it (catastor??) so I could see it being run, but it's a good bit of extra deck space. Maybe in the side? Also wondering if you're on Quan, it seems.. awkward, but again, unique level, and opens up more ways to banish 4 w/ Quariongandrax, but might be win-more. Obviously not every build would necessarily run all of these, just wondering if you think any subset is a good idea in any of the main varieties of builds. -Have you figured out any purely in-archetype ways to play around Nib while still making a respectable board? It feels like the only way to accomplish it off of a 1-card is to forgo Sulfefnir getting to pop itself, but the result of that from my experience is that you end on literally just Infinity and nothing more. It feels really *close* to being possible to do better though, so figured I'd ask in case I'm missing anything. -Do you think Scrap Recycler is a decent option for an additional starter? Summoning it to send Smiger seems like it gets you the same result as a clockwork knight line, and if you summon clockwork knight using it you can then get the effect off again, which seems really good to me, but given that it wasn't mentioned at all in the video (unless I missed it somehow) then it must be less good than it sounds. Is the issue just that it loses to veiler/imperm immediately whereas normal summon Smiger doesn't? Not that I'm endorsing cutting copies of smiger to fit recycler, not directly competing for space, just trying to compare against the most similar line. Anyways, great video! Definitely helped a lot in giving a solid basis to work off of regardless of the direction one chooses to go in with the deck, most everything else I'd run into was just infinity + dawn dragster every game ;-;
@@dp101 hey there!! yeah tidal is really good in the deck, though i havent really thought about using small world all too much. For the crystrons, i’d say in most builds you should be on the Prais as its level is relevant for Quandax and its grave effect comes up too. Quan i’ve tried to make work, but its sort of a clunky card to try and work with, but it can open up some lines. i just dont think its really worth it though. I like phoenix in the side, i know some people may main it but i prefer to have it in the side since its quite matchup dependent. I think a good answer to nib is using trist to summon a 5 and then make samurai destroyer, you at least get to summon out a machine from grave then which is nice. I think scrap recycler is a little eh. its easy to get hit by something like imperm or veiler, and while it’d prefer it to be scrap getting hit than something like sulfud, i think it would require drawing a lot more engine along with the scrap recycler for it to ever be consistently good. i think something like terrortop to make cherubini is a better starter than scrap recycler while also not using the normal summon!
adventure engine is quite interesting, but what do you think of Crystron paired with Runick? Any Runick spell with trist is a level 4 synchro which can be destroyed by trist and full combo
@@keksstar8362 sounds interesting! Though i’d be worried about the amount of space that would take up in the main and extra, but it’s definitely something i’ll try to test out!
Idk can we afford the bricks that the adventure engine gives and + we have to play rion which is also a brick Also u can get more with some combos where u haven't used the sulfanir effect yet when u ss the 2sulfanir from deck and trist from banish u can make the FA dawn then use sulf effect with whatever u added back with the lvl 7 sync (if u have add the trap then use another discard ) then summon another lvl 5 dude from the deck for infinity
@@moodq7733 yeah, those are other options you can take depending on what you have in your hand! Really just wanted to show some basic lines using 1-1.5 cards to help people who are new to the deck! and as for the adventure engine, while it does have bricks, i feel like a lot of secondary engines end up having 1-2 bricks. the way i see rion is that it can come up, for example i used it and sulfudhole summoned off sulfefnir to make a dragite into a board with a lot of backrow to help with board breaking, but rion just comes up more in the adventure build anyways so its better to just play it there really that said theres of course lots of ways to take crystron, so if you dont like the adventure engine, theres nothing stopping you from not running it and running what you prefer instead!! a lot of the deckbuilding decisions with the deck are gonna be up to player preference
@@JennieYGO yeah crystron is very flexable also Do u prefer the speedroid or the ice ruler I tried both The ice ruler makes strong hand stronger and also work if u draw purrelya and the speedroid is a one card combo from a dead hand and can also make hand better if one can afford the regules
@ i think for the adventure build i prefer tidal for sending enchantress, and also the adventure build just has more waters so you’re more than likely always going to have something to send off tidal i think terrortop is interesting! im not on it but i think its something that could slot nicely into most variants of the deck!
@@Brokizoide citree for sure!! And i’ve found the adventure engine to be quite good into high power handtraps (fuwa, shifter and lancea) which is why i prefer it atm i hadnt heard of a fiendsmith variant!
@@JennieYGOusing sulfenir and a discard leads to summon sulfhole frome deck and dumps rosenx. Rosenix summons a token. Token into clockworknight and 2 bodies into moon.
@@fifo2471 Legatia sometimes sees play in the deck as another machine synchro to make! it getting to draw and pop a monster can be beneficial, and its also just a big body there isnt really any specific combo regarding it, its more so just another synchro that can be made in the extra when needed!
Thoughts on Kash engine to start? Basically you go into Dracossack from Fenrir + normal summoned Riseheart, with the Dracossack tokens you make Cherubini, and still have enough bodies to go into an early s:p. Kinda like Terrortop, but you use your normal summon and require one more extra deck slot, in exchange for s:p and Fenrir's board breaking potential
Hey all! Just want to mention, because i forgot to in this video, that in the first combo, you summon Crystron Citree off of Tristalos in order to synchro 2 + 2 + 5 into Quariongandrax! Hope this video helped!
Also! For the sulf + discard combo, you can instead of sending tristalos off of sulfudhole, you can send thystvern, thystvern add trist, normal trist, and then you have the same endboard but with inclusion in grave!!
For the just inclusion combo, you can do something similar to end on a better endboard!!
Halq jumpscare with the sleeves. But for real, great combo guide!
@@TristanShuffles thank you!! I set them ages ago, and then i think they rotated out of db so you cant get them now, so i was like “sure i’ll keep these”
turns out, that was a great idea
Ah yes, this definitely looks a lot more reasonable than the extremely jank glaive blaster line I'd come up with... Tidal is absurdly good in the deck and I have no idea why I somehow wound up running it entirely as a small world bridge without even considering the effect, seems like it probably boosts every variant of the deck. Anyways, couple questions:
-I'm not asking for a full decklist or anything, but I was wondering which of the other crystrons you'd consider running? Specifically, Prasiortle (the green one) seems sometimes nice as an extender off of sulfudhole (can send thystvern + prasiortle to essentially summon out any maindeck crystron you want), and it offers a unique level that you can't access elsewhere, but I'm not sure whether that's, good? Similarly, the other extra deck crystrons not mentioned here - Quandax probably requires Prasiortle or weird Rosenix lines to get out, but you're not machine-locked on the opponent's turn when using it, which could enable some weirdness (stardust warrior for summon negate after making inzektor?). Ametrix seems obviously awful, but Phoenix on the other hand is probably pretty good going into heavy backrow decks, and there's not really an alternative 5 to use to make it (catastor??) so I could see it being run, but it's a good bit of extra deck space. Maybe in the side? Also wondering if you're on Quan, it seems.. awkward, but again, unique level, and opens up more ways to banish 4 w/ Quariongandrax, but might be win-more. Obviously not every build would necessarily run all of these, just wondering if you think any subset is a good idea in any of the main varieties of builds.
-Have you figured out any purely in-archetype ways to play around Nib while still making a respectable board? It feels like the only way to accomplish it off of a 1-card is to forgo Sulfefnir getting to pop itself, but the result of that from my experience is that you end on literally just Infinity and nothing more. It feels really *close* to being possible to do better though, so figured I'd ask in case I'm missing anything.
-Do you think Scrap Recycler is a decent option for an additional starter? Summoning it to send Smiger seems like it gets you the same result as a clockwork knight line, and if you summon clockwork knight using it you can then get the effect off again, which seems really good to me, but given that it wasn't mentioned at all in the video (unless I missed it somehow) then it must be less good than it sounds. Is the issue just that it loses to veiler/imperm immediately whereas normal summon Smiger doesn't? Not that I'm endorsing cutting copies of smiger to fit recycler, not directly competing for space, just trying to compare against the most similar line.
Anyways, great video! Definitely helped a lot in giving a solid basis to work off of regardless of the direction one chooses to go in with the deck, most everything else I'd run into was just infinity + dawn dragster every game ;-;
@@dp101 hey there!! yeah tidal is really good in the deck, though i havent really thought about using small world all too much.
For the crystrons, i’d say in most builds you should be on the Prais as its level is relevant for Quandax and its grave effect comes up too. Quan i’ve tried to make work, but its sort of a clunky card to try and work with, but it can open up some lines. i just dont think its really worth it though. I like phoenix in the side, i know some people may main it but i prefer to have it in the side since its quite matchup dependent.
I think a good answer to nib is using trist to summon a 5 and then make samurai destroyer, you at least get to summon out a machine from grave then which is nice.
I think scrap recycler is a little eh. its easy to get hit by something like imperm or veiler, and while it’d prefer it to be scrap getting hit than something like sulfud, i think it would require drawing a lot more engine along with the scrap recycler for it to ever be consistently good. i think something like terrortop to make cherubini is a better starter than scrap recycler while also not using the normal summon!
adventure engine is quite interesting, but what do you think of Crystron paired with Runick? Any Runick spell with trist is a level 4 synchro which can be destroyed by trist and full combo
@@keksstar8362 sounds interesting! Though i’d be worried about the amount of space that would take up in the main and extra, but it’s definitely something i’ll try to test out!
Great video, still doubting what version is the best
@@guillermopereira2045 thats fair!! There’s a lot of ways to take the deck, and i’d say it’s best to just go with the build that suits you the best!
Idk can we afford the bricks that the adventure engine gives and + we have to play rion which is also a brick
Also u can get more with some combos where u haven't used the sulfanir effect yet when u ss the 2sulfanir from deck and trist from banish u can make the FA dawn then use sulf effect with whatever u added back with the lvl 7 sync (if u have add the trap then use another discard ) then summon another lvl 5 dude from the deck for infinity
@@moodq7733 yeah, those are other options you can take depending on what you have in your hand! Really just wanted to show some basic lines using 1-1.5 cards to help people who are new to the deck!
and as for the adventure engine, while it does have bricks, i feel like a lot of secondary engines end up having 1-2 bricks. the way i see rion is that it can come up, for example i used it and sulfudhole summoned off sulfefnir to make a dragite into a board with a lot of backrow to help with board breaking, but rion just comes up more in the adventure build anyways so its better to just play it there really
that said theres of course lots of ways to take crystron, so if you dont like the adventure engine, theres nothing stopping you from not running it and running what you prefer instead!! a lot of the deckbuilding decisions with the deck are gonna be up to player preference
@@JennieYGO yeah crystron is very flexable also
Do u prefer the speedroid or the ice ruler
I tried both
The ice ruler makes strong hand stronger and also work if u draw purrelya and the speedroid is a one card combo from a dead hand and can also make hand better if one can afford the regules
@ i think for the adventure build i prefer tidal for sending enchantress, and also the adventure build just has more waters so you’re more than likely always going to have something to send off tidal
i think terrortop is interesting! im not on it but i think its something that could slot nicely into most variants of the deck!
Do you play Citree in this version or prefer quan because of the adventure token?
Does the adventure engine feel stronger compared to other variants such as Azamina or Fiendsmith?
@@Brokizoide citree for sure!! And i’ve found the adventure engine to be quite good into high power handtraps (fuwa, shifter and lancea) which is why i prefer it atm
i hadnt heard of a fiendsmith variant!
@@JennieYGOusing sulfenir and a discard leads to summon sulfhole frome deck and dumps rosenx. Rosenix summons a token. Token into clockworknight and 2 bodies into moon.
@ interesting, i’ll have to look into it
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Why i see legatia on this deck a lot? Combo ?
@@fifo2471 Legatia sometimes sees play in the deck as another machine synchro to make! it getting to draw and pop a monster can be beneficial, and its also just a big body
there isnt really any specific combo regarding it, its more so just another synchro that can be made in the extra when needed!
Thoughts on Kash engine to start? Basically you go into Dracossack from Fenrir + normal summoned Riseheart, with the Dracossack tokens you make Cherubini, and still have enough bodies to go into an early s:p. Kinda like Terrortop, but you use your normal summon and require one more extra deck slot, in exchange for s:p and Fenrir's board breaking potential
@@Vibe69420 i actually showed that at the end of the video haha
its okay, im not too into it but its interesting
@@JennieYGOaaand that's what I get for commenting mid video
Yippee crystron!