Why does God obscure Prophecies in Symbols | Revelation 12 | Part 2 | Lesson 26

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  • Revelation 12, a Biblical explanation from a Hebrew perspective. Tom Bradford, our Bible Teacher, will be addressing the symbology behind Bible prophecy. In this study, he will be focusing on Revelation 12, as we make our way through this episode. What does the God of Israel truly want to reveal to us?
    Join us in this study on Revelation 12.

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  • @imcat-holic10
    @imcat-holic10 2 місяці тому +5

    I absolutely love these teachings. Thankful to YAH for Tom. Bradford's willingness to teach the Book of Revelation. I uaed to be reluctant to read this Book but the LORD has now allowied me to come and see.

  • @judykoudssi9850
    @judykoudssi9850 Місяць тому

    If truth were different for each person, we could do like so many do and make the Bible say anything we want! Praise God for his amazing Word!!

  • @DavidFardenJr
    @DavidFardenJr 2 місяці тому

    Yah bless you all and stay strong in these times of sorrows.

  • @zlaticabrezinova6438
    @zlaticabrezinova6438 2 місяці тому +4

    Halleluyah. Amen. Can't wait to the end. Well done, faithful servant. We're not supposed to hang on, we are to work hard. Teacher, you couldn't explain better. 🙏😇🥳

  • @carolbyrnes4528
    @carolbyrnes4528 Місяць тому

    I so love your teachings & Yah bless you in abundance! ❤ South Africa

  • @mikehorton3664
    @mikehorton3664 2 місяці тому +4

    confirmation, thank you. God bless,matthew6:33,proverbs3:5

  • @tprestonmarshall4195
    @tprestonmarshall4195 2 місяці тому +2

    You Sir are an Excellent Teacher
    Thanx♥️🙏🏻🇺🇸

  • @emmanelson2406
    @emmanelson2406 Місяць тому

    Wow what a eye opener.

  • @rodrogers6895
    @rodrogers6895 2 місяці тому

    Put Dan McClellan into the UA-cam search and you will get several videos explaining Revelation.
    Amazing teaching! I can listen for hours.

  • @dehsa38
    @dehsa38 2 місяці тому

    Symbols also promote developing a stronger relationship with God. The better one you have, the more you perceive continuation of His thought; something to measure mere whim, or abstract idea, to.

  • @LindaMcDonnell-yq5pn
    @LindaMcDonnell-yq5pn 19 днів тому

    Enjoyed your exposition of Rev12. There is so many theories yours is balanced and I through my studies agree with your conclusion s. There is so few teachers of the word today there is indeed a famine of the word of God grateful that God has securely given me a few teachers I can be sure by discernment to listen too. Shalom

    • @TorahClass
      @TorahClass  18 днів тому

      Thank you for your kind words. Shalom!

  • @ChrisMusante
    @ChrisMusante 2 місяці тому +1

    The Lord's word 5:00 cannot be divided by separating good and evil... but separated by JOINING them. See Isaiah 45:7. We are in a 'fight' that cannot be won by 'fighting'. We must be 'still' that HE can fight 'for' us. Exodus 14:14.
    "Whoever is not FOR YOU is AGAINST YOU." And if we do not 'do nothing'... we will find ourselves fighting against God. Be anxious for 'nothing'. This is really bad... 😔

  • @truthmonger7
    @truthmonger7 2 місяці тому

    For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.

  • @michaelart4878
    @michaelart4878 2 місяці тому +2

    💘

  • @bethelshiloh
    @bethelshiloh 2 місяці тому

    8:00

  • @theomnisthour6400
    @theomnisthour6400 2 місяці тому +1

    What makes you think these are symbols and not very real supernatural entities?

  • @gabriellehoffman7572
    @gabriellehoffman7572 2 місяці тому

    Sequencing question:
    When the woman flees to the wilderness, my understanding was that she will flee to the cleft in the rock (Petra), which would be a clear symbol of the protection of Jesus Christ, the Rock.
    So is it that ALL of Israel will flee to Petra and THEN they will cry out for their Messiah and mourn for the one they've pierced? Or do I have the order wrong somehow?

  • @mrutledge50
    @mrutledge50 2 місяці тому

    are the beast NATIONS.

  • @deborahwinn1436
    @deborahwinn1436 2 місяці тому +1

    No matter what you can not change Bible prophecy. And the author of the G Bible was the living God and also God can not lie. Oh he's angry alright!!

  • @tonimurray2865
    @tonimurray2865 2 місяці тому

    I wonder why there are so many advertisements on this channel…?

    • @TorahClass
      @TorahClass  2 місяці тому

      Hello! We do not put ads on our videos and our channel is not monetized. Any ads that you see on the video are put there without our control or consent by UA-cam. We do not see a dime from these ads. If you would like an ad free experience, we would encourage you to watch on our website, TorahClass.com. Sorry for the inconvenience. Blessings and shalom.

    • @tonimurray2865
      @tonimurray2865 2 місяці тому

      I knew it was a UA-cam thing and not Torah class, but I was wondering why you get them all (a lot!) and similar channels gets none… maybe they want to discourage people from getting your information…

  • @rebeccawhite9395
    @rebeccawhite9395 Місяць тому

    Revelations chapter 12 is literal and happened in 2011. We are well beyond that time period in the unveiling known as the Apacalypse. Men repeat what other men have taught while God does mighty and myterious things, even men, fail to understand.

  • @eswn1816
    @eswn1816 Місяць тому +1

    Nowhere in Revelation does John's vision indicate a past event.
    Yes, the woman is Israel (Zion).
    Paul describes this "man-child":
    Romans 8
    19For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.
    20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope;
    21because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
    22For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.
    Sons of God?
    The Bride?
    144,000 in Revelation 7 & 14?

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 28 днів тому

    Satan tempted Adam and Eve but who tempted Satan? Did he just develop a bad attitude on his own?

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 28 днів тому

    Son means son not something else.

  • @RobertEdmunds-pz6ir
    @RobertEdmunds-pz6ir 2 місяці тому +1

    You misrepresented Classical Dispensaionalism.
    The woman is Israel.
    The child is the Lord Jesus Christ.
    1260 days is Israel in the 7 years tribulation after the rapture of the church.

  • @joemoto311
    @joemoto311 2 місяці тому

    the bible was never finished and closed up.....its a manifestation device like a spell....man religion and understanding...yet another idol

  • @ChrisMusante
    @ChrisMusante 2 місяці тому

    Thomas? I hope you see 36:14... 'on earth as it is in heaven'. And the 'time' is NOW!! And getting very very short brother... There is NO ONE 'like Job' on 'earth'.
    'We are in heaven NOW'... or... 'the Lake of Fire'. The choice is OURS. Please hear me... do not 41:06 let the decieving spirit to be the church. 😔

  • @sarahlynn4790
    @sarahlynn4790 2 місяці тому +1

    Isaiah says the woman is ZION/JERUSALEM not Israel…
    👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
    7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
    8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
    9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the Lord: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.
    10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:
    ISRAEL is represented by the crown of12 stars on her head.
    She is not her crown, her crown is her crown.
    She is Jerusalem above…
    The mother of all believers (Gal. 4:26).
    YOU MUST BE BORN FROM ABOVE…

    • @ChrisMusante
      @ChrisMusante Місяць тому

      The 'women' has BOTH seeds - and as a result of how or from which 'father' the seed is watered. The 'women' is INSIDE of us and represents our 'decisions'. I'd like to speak to you if possible - number is in my channel info.

    • @ChrisMusante
      @ChrisMusante Місяць тому

      All of interpretation is tied to the names... Zion means "desolate place", indicating a lack of knowledge and wisdom, as well as a place or time of struggle (birth pangs) and call for perseverance - a 'root' out of dry ground.

    • @sarahlynn4790
      @sarahlynn4790 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisMusante You are kind of correct. There are two Jerusalems in scripture Jerusalem that is now and Jerusalem above, who is the mother of us all (Gal. 4:26).
      People who are out of covenant are children of earthly Jerusalem.
      People who are in covenant are children on Jerusalem above.
      These are depicted as two women in the book of Revelation. The Rev. 12 woman and the harlot.

  • @jeromefalasca5118
    @jeromefalasca5118 2 місяці тому

    There is neither Jew nor Greek, nor man or woman neither slave nor free, for you are all one in Christ Jesus :Galatians 3. 28.All that believe are the heirs of Abraham ..thus Israel are all true believers…the woman , bride of Christ is the congregation of true believers

    • @Mr-Corey-June
      @Mr-Corey-June 2 місяці тому

      Yes no difference in Messiah Yeshua, but translators may have misunderstood the context of Galatians ch. 3. In verses 17-19 we are given a time of 430 years after the Abraham covenant.
      3 months after the 1st Passover, Exodus ch. 20. God spoke to the people and told them his laws. They got scared and asked Moses to be their go between, that's Ex.20;19. Now remember. They were told by God himself what those laws were. They had forgotten them while in Egypt. Joseph knew them, he wouldn't commit Adultery.
      Genesis 38;9 WMB
      9 No one is greater in this house than I am, and he has not kept back anything from me but you, because you are his wife. How then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?”
      Back to Sinai Ex 34. Moses didn't come down the mountain quick enough for them, so they made a golden calf, even after God told them his laws. Moses came down, then smashed the tablets. These Laws of God that has the 4th commandment, the sabbath was made holy during the 7th day of creation. They were before Moses.
      Moses plead with God Exodus 32;31-35, 34;1-7, the people were punished. When they set up the Tabernacle a new set of punishment laws were given, and God hit them in the belly. It was the dietary laws, unto the 3rd and forth generation. It was the only law that was added because of the transgression of the golden calf. And this opens up Galatians ch.3 and exposes the error the translators (Romans) failed to understand. The law that was "added" couldn't be the 10 commandments, Joseph proves that and so does Ex. 20. The only Law that was "added" 430yrs after Abraham covenant with God because of sin/transgression is the dietary law. In Gal. 2;11-21 they're talking about the eating customs of the Jews, aka the dietary law's rules. Jews don't eat with Gentiles or slaves.
      But through Messiah Yeshua, in Galatians 3;23-29 we are told the law taught to separate the clean and unclean, Jew and Gentile. We are all brothers in faith. The dietary law is done away with, Acts 10;10-16 & 28, 1 Cor. 10;25-32 and 1 Tim. 4;3.
      Many will say I'm wrong, LOL.

  • @lonecar144
    @lonecar144 Місяць тому

    Why is the truth hidden? One main reason is so that satan doesn’t know who he is. Satan is a power (Eph 6:12 (KJV)) not a self-aware being. If he is a fallen heavenly angel then this legitimate and pertinent question cannot be answered:
    “Why didn’t/doesn't/wouldn’t Satan read scripture the way that the world does and just NOT do what is predicted of him and make God and his word unreliable?”
    Satan was loosed (Rev 20:7 (KJV)) when he became more powerful than the dragon, represented by communist China (the stars), a people that believe that man has control of his own destiny and no need of God. Satan was loosed when he became more powerful than the beast, represented by Russia (the moon), the nation that sold its birthright (like Esau) to lead the world to God and salvation. Satan was loosed when he became eviler than the false prophet, represented by the Roman Catholic Church that does more evil in the name of God than any before. Satan was loosed in August of 1945 (Rev 13:13 (KJV)). Yes Satan does NOT know who he is:
    A demon is an evil thought i.e., a lie.
    A devil is a person that carries out that evil i.e., a liar.
    Satan is the POWER that these devils have i.e., the father of lies (John 8:44 (KJV)) U.S.A. (the sun) “in God we trust” and “one nation under God”.
    To believe that this nation (the most powerful nation that has ever been U.S.A.) is not prophesied in the bible, or is just a foot note, is to be naïve or blind. Seven times through providence God has raised a civilization under his name to a major power. Seven times it has turned its back on God and been destroyed by God (1 Cor 2:8 (KJV) (Rev 20:2-3 (KJV) and Psalms 9:15-17 (KJV) and today being the eighth (Rev 17:11 (KJV)).
    Most teach that these verses mean that God has no concept of time,
    8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
    9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness…
    2 Peter 3:8-9 (KJV).
    They couldn’t be further from the truth. God did not say “when I get around to it”; he has a timetable and his elect know this, 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Rev 10:7 (KJV).
    The world needs to quit reading the bible like a novel and seek the truth that is hidden in the stories, parables, and symbolism.

    All glory to God. Amen

  • @markhauserbible7168
    @markhauserbible7168 2 місяці тому

    If people would only study their bible, these things become much less complicated. Rev 12:1-6 Is simply telling the story of Israel giving birth to Jesus (Church body) Satan Immediately ready to stop him. >Mt2:13,16. Then the Church (Spiritual Israel) fleeing into the wilderness. (The world) 2000 years so far. This same teaching can be seen in Rev6:1-6, and Rev20:1-6. With different signs and symbols. Rev 19 is the END. PERIOD! Rev20 is simply repeating the SAME teaching. It's all about the N.T. Gospel given by Jesus to be a WITNESS to ALL the world. Then shall the end come. Mt24:14 There is NO pre-trib rapture and NO literal 1000 years in our future. To God be the Glory.

  • @ChrisMusante
    @ChrisMusante 2 місяці тому

    45:46 You CANNOT defeat GOD... the scriptures cannot be 'broken' (overcome) thus, by not obeying them our 'righteous right hand' is 'marked'. Have not the scriptures been given a voice to 'speak' ? "You are all gods... 'sons' of the Most High". This is really bad dude. Really really bad. Man is a maggot 50:30 and the son of man a worm (Job 25:6). Please call me. The Lord's Day... Amos 5:18 is as the 'times of Noah'. Darkness and 'not' light.

  • @rocdajacable
    @rocdajacable 2 місяці тому

    Boy Tom this must be an old teaching especially when you have irrefutable facts on Job
    And How Both 1-2nd chapters and the last 2 are Both ADDED TO THE WORD from a much later time frame and completely different hebrew text ..

  • @shekina9473
    @shekina9473 2 місяці тому +2

    Total bs

    • @ChrisMusante
      @ChrisMusante 2 місяці тому

      I'm sorry that you have been offended... but I am willing to trying to explain it to you.
      Jesus was the Messiah - son of God and a master and a teacher, who taught that the only way to win a battle was to not fight in any of them.
      As far as prophecy goes, there are (2) ways that they are fulfilled... either by waiting or by works, where in the later you have control over the outcome. This happened in Ninevah - where the prophet Jonah, whose name means 'dove', told the Ninevites that they would be 'overturned' in 40 days. Some say he was a false prophet because at first glance it would seem that they were NOT overturned. But they 'overturned' themselves - by repenting BEFORE the Lord's judgement came.
      All of the writings in the scriptures are scenarios of the things that happen in life, and proven to be accurate because these 'parables' are also historical facts. The point is that by studying them, and noticing the meta (data), one can tell what 'crossroads' are coming 'next', where a choice can be made as to which way is best to go.
      Some prophecies have no specific time in which they can be fulfilled, and why Jesus could truthfully say... "for YOU - ANYTIME will do."
      Thers is a prophecy that sounds nice but people don't see the darkside of it... because they discount the fact that God has absolutely NO POWER over the will of man, and someone who does not 'believe', in which case God will 'break' that person since His 'laws' cannot be 'broken'.
      The prophecy that is scary is this one...
      "And they studied war no more."
      We can either take charge and not war, or God can allow us to totally destroy ourselves and the earth - and thus there is 'nobody left... to 'war'.
      You do not like what you have known because you can see the conflict that is caused by people who do not understand their 'book' - which is good and proper for you to notice... that 'they' search rhe scriptures and find only 'death'. But as you have just learned... there is also 'life' in these writings if you know how to find it. Only those of the proper 'spirit' will find the peace, hope, and future in them... the others use the 'sword of truth' for war; a 'paper sword' that has much blood on it.
      Again. I am sorry that somehow you are offended - and I hope that you can find some peace from my words.
      I am a master and teacher - same as Jesus the Christ.
      Shalom.

  • @hermanehrentraut4956
    @hermanehrentraut4956 2 місяці тому

    Shalom, This video is hypocritical it says to understand Revelation one always needs to go to the OT, but yet it does not do this in identifying the dragon. No where in the OT is Satan called a dragon for that matter neither is the Devil. However two people are called dragon in Jer 51 Nebuchadnezzar is called the dragon and in Ezek 29 Pharoah king of Egypt is called the great dragon.
    Jer_51:34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
    Eze_29:3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.
    So following the rules of letting the Bible interpret itself as this channel claims instead of calling the Dragon of Rev Satan instead we should be looking for other people that are called dragon. Also there is a lot of symbolism in Rev 12 not the kind that one thing means another but the symbols used point to signs, specifically signs in the sky the constellations. This is done so those with understanding are able to identify when certain events foretold would happen actually happened. This is primarily done to keep from being deceived. The woman with twelve stars is the constellation in Greek known as Virgo, Crown in Greek is stephanos which were made of different types of plants, a laurel made of olive leaves signaled the birth of a male child, "rule all nations with a rod of Iron" is a reference to Rev 2:27-28 and is a reference to planet Venus, fiery red dragon is the constellation in Greek know as Hydra, 7 heads are seven stars in Hydra, ten horns is the constellation in Greek known as Cancer, seven crowns is a reference to the planet Saturn, "tail swempt away a thrid of the stars from heaven" is a reference to a meteor shower.
    All these elements must be considered in dating the prophecy
    Saturn 30 year cycle
    Venus 2 year cycle
    Moon at feet of Virgo
    Sun in Virgo
    Virgo horizontal in the sky
    Crater meteor showers
    These signs do not point to Yahshua HaMashiach but point to Oliver Cromwell and the roundhead movement that would play a role in the restoration of israel.
    This video puts attention on "a man child" which is the Greek arrhen and means male/man and the Greek uihos and means son, ignoring the other word in the same verse also translated as child which in Greek is teknon and refers to child from birth to adolescence.
    harpazo whle end time teachers love to say this is the rapture thus making its use anywhere in the Bible as being a divine act that is not the case
    The wilderness the woman flees to is North America which will later become the United States of America.
    Satan falling to Earth is a meteorite
    This prophecy begins during the inquisition which targeted protestants and Jews, but unlike protestants Jews were being driven from all nations in Europe and some Jews escaped the inquisition by coming to the Americas, now the puritan movement by Oliver Cromwell and his supporters, led to puritans trying to escape persecution by England to also flee to the Americas specifically North America. During Oliver Cromwell's life one thing he did was put an end to the expulsion of Jews from England for centuries, however later under the English monarchy not only were puritans at risk but also once again Jews. I mean realize that Jews had no land of their own but were subject to the laws of others who controlled the land, so when the American Revolution happened Jews had a vested interest in its outcome, had England won the Jews living in English controlled areas would be either expelled or enslaved just as they had been in other kingdoms/nations of Europe that now had colonies in the Americas. However because of England's defeat it now gave the Jewish people a place of refuge not just from England but all kingdoms and nations that persecuted Jews. This protection would only last until 1948 when the nation of Israel was born. This view did not go unnoticed by America or England, America identified itself as being the woman with the name Columbia, and England identified America as a woman depicting her as a savage. It is also noteworthy the English monarchy coat of arms is a red dragon even the Welsh flag is a red dragon
    Isa 14 is not a prophecy about Satan but is a prophecy about Nebuchadnezzar and it is done by comparing him to the morning star - the planet Venus how it rises and falls.
    Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

    • @markhauserbible7168
      @markhauserbible7168 2 місяці тому +2

      My experience with people that reply with MANY WORDS, know LESS than the ones that reply with FEW WORDS. You give about 3 scriptures, and immediately follow THEM with stupid unbiblical opinions. Rev 12:1-4 is the exact same thing as Rev6:1-4 and Rev20:1-4 with different signs and symbols. Its starts with JESUS bringing the N.T. Gospel. Then Satan immediately trying to Stop him. Mt2:13,16.

    • @rocdajacable
      @rocdajacable 2 місяці тому

      Craycray?

    • @jeromefalasca5118
      @jeromefalasca5118 2 місяці тому

      Again conflating nations and nationalities with the true family of believers…all nations states are under Satan just look at politics anywhere in the world ,(at any time) thus Our Lord says My Kingdom is not of this world. All that believe are Heirs of Abraham

    • @ChrisMusante
      @ChrisMusante 2 місяці тому

      What you do not understand perhaps is that the dragon is ANYONE that attacks the scriptures, which are truth and thus cannot be broken.
      In the case of Nebuchadnezzar, he was 'full of himself', and did not eat the food, the bread, which is the word of God.
      One does not need to eat - in order to be schooled about God - because the Lord is working from BOTH sides... through light AND darkness. See Isaiah 45:7.
      When you study scriptures you have to pay attention to the 'names', and as Thomas pointed out - everybody will see these writings differently, as the symbolism allows for tolerance of interpretation.
      With regards to the 'child' - it is best to think of it as 'good' being concieved... and if the spirit that 'watered it' is 'good' - then God will 'accept' the child. If the seed is watered with 'bitter water' - then a female is concieved... which is defilement with woman, and just results in 'more seeds'. This is the importance of the 1st born, and since all of a persons 'deeds' are judged in this way... the children of lady wisdom are then vindicated as it is written. Hope this helps.

    • @hermanehrentraut4956
      @hermanehrentraut4956 2 місяці тому

      @@ChrisMusanteShabbat Shalom, I do understand how anyone who attacks the scriptures can be seen as the Dragon. This is why when the Anglican Church or State Church of England where the King is both head of state and church is the dragon, and the puritan movement of Oliver Cromwell for a time put an end to this practice such as banning the Catholic tradition of Christmas, but when King of England was restored to power, Oliver Cromwell was caught up to God in that he died, and the puritans to avoid persecution by the State and Church of England fled to the wilderness of America. Now Oliver Cromwell believed the second coming of Christ was soon but he also understood the role Jews would play in it, which is one reason he ended the expulsion of Jews from England.
      However I did not want to get ahead of the series but I will for understanding of the Dragon. In Rev 13 it also speaks of the dragon, now going by the dragon in Rev 12 being England during the puritan movement up to and including the American Revolution where Church and State were separated thus giving a place for Jews to escape persecution where they were granted religious freedom/liberty. I mean this is why a major financier of the American Revolution was a Jew named Haym Solomon people might think the dragon of Rev 13 is also England.
      The dragon in Rev 13 is the Roman Empire specifically at the time of the Emperor Constantine when the state began its support of what is known as Nicene Christianity which did not preach the Christ of the gospels but preached another Christ or another version of Christ and this was done by those who said they were apostles but lied, as they claimed to be bishops but did not meet the requirements to even be a bishop.
      Not long after under Emperor Theodosius this replacement Christ would become the defacto Christ of the Roman Empire outlawing all other versions of Christ including the one preached by the apostles and to anyone who did not accept the union of State and Church they would be deemed insane have their wealth and property confiscated, would be banned from engaging in commerce (not able to buy or sell), loss of employment, those that did not die by starvation were killed by the Roman garrisons under order of State and Church. This all began in 380 AD Edict of Thessalonika. It is interesting to note that Paul wrote a letter to believers in Thessalonika that in the city's future these events would take place.
      This system of union of State Church would last for over 1,000 years and still exists today within some parts of Christiandom. However despite claims by most protestants they are not Catholic they in fact are perhaps they have rejected catholic doctrines and traditions but they all follow the defacto Christ of Nicene Christianity. It is this that the eccumenical movement is built on with the goal of restoring the universal church that existed until the schisms of the Orthodox and later Protestant movements.
      EMPERORS GRATIAN, VALENTINIAN AND THEODOSIUS AUGUSTI. EDICT TO THE PEOPLE OF CONSTANTINOPLE.
      It is our desire that all the various nations which are subject to our Clemency and Moderation, should continue to profess that religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter, as it has been preserved by faithful tradition, and which is now professed by the Pontiff Damasus and by Peter, Bishop of Alexandria, a man of apostolic holiness. According to the apostolic teaching and the doctrine of the Gospel, let us believe in the one deity of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, in equal majesty and in a holy Trinity. We order the followers of this law to embrace the name of Catholic Christians; but as for the others, since, in our judgment they are foolish madmen, we decree that they shall be branded with the ignominious name of heretics, and shall not presume to give to their conventicles the name of churches. They will suffer in the first place the chastisement of the divine condemnation and in the second the punishment of our authority which in accordance with the will of Heaven we shall decide to inflict.
      GIVEN IN THESSALONICA ON THE THIRD DAY FROM THE CALENDS OF MARCH, DURING THE FIFTH CONSULATE OF GRATIAN AUGUSTUS AND FIRST OF THEODOSIUS AUGUSTUS
      - Codex Theodosianus, xvi.1.2