The fight with Yu Yevon is the same reason why the fight with Jasper Twat Jr. fails so hard.- because it's not just the protagonists going through the unsatisfactory crawl of defeating them, it's YOU as well.
Same here. I played him in Utage and I gotta say he doesn't meet BASARA's standards for a good boss, but he is a damn good playable character with a decent moveset.
10. Completely agreed. I don't even waste my time on this guy anymore. 9. I personally think there are worse-designed ones, but yeah he still sucks. 8. ........ Am I the only one who hates Aztec Falcon for the opposite reasons? For how hard the Zero series is, I personally find this guy WAY too easy, even having played the original game first. And the time limit never once came close to 0 for me so I don't even think it's necessary. 7. Not gonna quote the stupid sound clip... 6. Haven't played Super Meat Boy yet, and to be honest this isn't tempting me to. Crap bosses tend to turn me off to a game very quickly. 5. This is how not to design an RPG boss, folks. 4. I don't own a 3DS yet so I'll just take your word for it here. 3. Wow... I like the Devil May Cry games but holy crap. This fight was just sloppy. 2. Now I know where Jasper Batt Jr. got it from. Except the more infuriating way. 1. And that's why I don't play Street Fighter, kids. I can barely tolerate bad bosses from other fighting games; this guy is hands-down one of the worst in history.
I don't really see why a bad final boss in a fighting game would derive from the franchise. Unless you play them exclusively for single player I suppose.
I'm not much of a competitive fighting game player; I don't have a brain for that stuff against other players, especially online. I can deal with some badly designed bosses in these games (for pete's sake, I can deal with Unlimited Hazama from BlazBlue without batting an eye), but Gil takes the fucking cake.
In my opinion, Undyne the Undying was a much better-designed boss in Undertale's Genocide route than Sans was. While Undyne's attacks were devastating if you got hit, they had some easy patterns to learn, and honestly, the fight was fun. Sans, on the other hand, is supposed to punish people for almost beating the game. How does that work? Oh right, it was a *bad boss made on purpose to prove a moral point*.
TheHeroOfTomorrow *cough* Gongora/Lost Odyssey *cough* Only. and I mean ONLY redeeming quality is his battle theme. That's the only reason he's not my least favorite boss period. (That being Ixtab from Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom), but Gongora is my #2
that's because safer sephiroth IS the final boss. the last bit is just for show. it's not meant to be a battle. it's a one button press deal. with yu yevon, it plays like any battle and it's meticulously done. it plays like any other fight, unlike the end of ff7
And if that weren't enough, Young Xehanort is considered by many to be the true final boss instead of the Armored Ventus Nightmare. Sure, the latter was more of a filler, hence infamy of the former, but even then he should be considered more as the final boss.
As much as I'd hate to say it, Ventus Nightmare was pretty much entirely cutscenes. It also has a surprisingly low amount of health and attack power for the boss coming after Y. Xehanort. While it is, by name, the final boss, he seems more like the victory lap after your victory against Y. Xehanort.But I'll admit, it was flashy as hell.
+Kirbachu5 he's still the last mandatory opponent of the game. the way i see it a game can have multiple final bosses that serve different purposes. also armored ventus nightmare can't be a cutscene since its fought like any other boss
10: *sigh* If only I went and faced Tenkai instead of this moron on my first playthrough of Mitsunari's story. 9. I hate the fight with Arlon more. 8. Yeah, I need to get the DS version. 7. There's no fail song in here. 0/10 6. Haven't gotten that far into Super Meat Boy, but I can say that aside from Boss 1, I am not impressed with its boss roster. 5. Demon Wall 2.0 4. No matter how much I love Lost World, I won't deny that this was a terrible fight. 3. Need to play this series sometime. 2. Oh, it's the Jasper Batt Jr. conspiracy all over again. 1. And people say Seth is the cheapest SF boss. Great list Mavy!
Demon Wall 2.0? no, it is actually an easy boss. Just two rules, to win: 1. Train your magic or take walnuts with you 2. the eyes become untargetable if they do specific actions. To sum it up, like many secret of mana bosses, it can easily be killed with spell-lockdown (the reason that was removed in secret of mana 2)
I actually hate Pit's Body more. Here's the scoop: You're using a giant sword club with melee attacks. Pit's Body is using a bow with melee AND ranged attacks! Cuz that's fair!
Please do more count downs like this. While the playthroughs are a nice change of pace, The main reason I watch is the count downs. Maybe you could switch back and forth, 3 lets plays and one count down. Or something like that.
Well, I had no intention of scrapping countdowns. I just do LPs to provide my viewers with something to watch while I work on major projects like this.
+MaverickHunterZero75 Would you like to make top 10 Xenoblade bosses, top 10 JRPG bosses, top 10 hated characters, top 10 favorite villains or a top 10 about Crash?
Two things: One, what you said about making a boss bad on purpose just for the sake of a message being stupid? I certainly agree! And Yu yevon isn't the only one guilty of this idiotic type of ideas! Jasper Batt Jr could be considered a bad offender as well... And the message supposedly conveyed was bad from the get go! And two, regarding Gill... RESURRECTION!! AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And also... Don't worry, Gill won't cause nightmares anymore. Why? Because Max beat him... AND FOR HIM, IT WAS TUESDAY!!!
I think the biggest problem with Aztec Falcon is that it is not all that difficult to get an A or S Rank on the first mission, so he will end up using his EX Attack (which the bosses only use when you have A or S rank to provide extra challenge). He isn't as bad without his EX Attack, but he is still a pain.
The thing about the plot defense for Yu Yevon is it doesn't portray that message well at all. Yu Yevon doesn't feel like a weakling, he feel like a normal boss battle, except you have permanent auto life... (and he lacks important boss immunities).
Number 1 would be every villain from Xenogears. Grahf, Miang, Krelian and Ramsus all feel like actual humans and the only other villains that I consider close to actual humans in terms of personality are Sephiroth and Egil.
Time Glitch Kefka does his job as a villain well, but he's not human. The only thing he wants is destruction, and why? Because he thinks killing is cool. Sephiroth on the other hand wants to show the world that he wants to be considered a person, not a killing machine, and that same motivation is also Ramsus's one. I love Kefka, don't get me wrong, but in terms of deep personality Sephiroth is better.
#9 Wait... Hades Heart for once isn't on this list? #8 OMG YUS!! #2 wait... people are defending this boss fight? Seriously this is about as arguably as bad as it's sequel final boss.
TOO many people. Go see the comments on that vid. Seriously, nearly everyone agrees on Jasper Batt Jr's irony being bad but with Yu Yevon everyone loves the irony?
+Daniel Thomas I don't get why even defend Yu Yevon in the 1st place. By bio Stats its not the best Final Boss powers, it gives Barthandelus Final form in his fight a run for it's money. When I 1st saw it, I was expecting Yu Yevon to ironically look like a man, not this weirdly Parasite-Metroid looking thing with Yevons Symbol on it.
I may love FFX but I'm not going so far to defend the final boss that is Yu Yevon. Trying to defend Yu Yevon is like defending the Final Boss/all the forms of the Final Boss that is FFX-2.
Ever since Colors, handheld Sonic games have only been ports of the console games of the same names, and the in the case of the 3DS ports, the consoles versions have been worlds superior
I hated Aurum Pyrrhon too. I actually had to google how to hit him because Pauletena and Viridi only tell you to jump and shoot. Any boss that I have to GOOGLE how to do damage to it deserves whatever hate it gets in my opinion.
11:00 The worst part of your experience with Zorr? The gyroscope probably read every turn the car made, throwing you off each time. Found out about that through OoT 3DS's bow controls.
Honestly I had no problems with Yu Yevon because it was so short. These days they would probably replace it with a quicktime event. Also I freaked out because I was spent after beating the Final Aeon, so the plot over gameplay device really worked for me.
Heh, when you mentioned Devil May Cry 3 I was certain you would choose Gigapede (giant flying tapeworm for those who haven't played the game) for being a boring boss fight in an excellent game. Then again I can understand your hate for Arkham battle - the worms are annoying, but Vergil can really help with them - thank GOD Vergil immortal in that fight. Suprised you didn't mention Arkham's homing projectiles-tentacle attack - they are pain to avoid. Still I do not dislike this battle, the concept is nice - Arkham's "true form" is as deformed as his heart (he sacrificed his own wife - that's messed up), I heard second player can control Vergil and music is nice. Sure, they could make it better but I still prefer it over Jester's bullet hell battles from special edition. Nice countdown anyway.
I agree. Gigapede was a super lame boss. No skill is required outside of dodging and jumping on its back to damage it. The Arkham fight really wasn't that bad to me. Honestly, I just bullrushed him and managed to win. Had to use a couple of items, but that was years ago when I as a gamer was more concerned with winning and progressing, even if the methods I used were cheap. Eh. Jester's bullet hell fight was annoying, but a few key dodges and parries, along with capitalizing on damage opportunities made it pretty simple. Honestly, the boss I probably hate the most in DMC 3 is Cerberus. The lack of mobility in that boss fight really frustrated me.
I actually defeated Gill in Third Strike a couple days ago. Is it weird that of all my attempts to beat him that he only revived himself out of all of his Super Arts?
Just imagine this scenario for #4: Officer: You know why I pulled you over? Driver: Why, sir? Officer: Your passenger isn't wearing a seatbelt. Driver: Sorry, officer, he's having to use the 3ds' gyroscopic controls for the Zor fight from Sonic: Lost World. Officer: Oh... well, I'll let you off with a warning, but next time, just play the best game for 3ds, Fire Emblem Awakening.
1. I found your original least favorite bosses list to be your first great video. The others ranged from decent to bad. & 2. You did a really good job here. this list may have had some entries i knew were gonna be here because of some of your past videos but there were just as many entries that caught me off guard. lastly I find it funny that you're new intro was done by Ty who also ranted on Aurum Pyrron (Yeah I know I spelled it wrong)
Aztec Falcon is only hard if you don't have to foresight to level up your Buster Gun and Z-Saber to at least be able to charge them. Seriously, it doesn't take long, the Gun can be done as early as before getting to the Golem in the opening stage.
Have to agree with #9. That whole chapter was my least favorite part of Kid Icarus Uprising. I didn't even know that I was supposed to destroy the green energy orbs in order to damage Pyrhon until I looked it up on the Internet. You'd think the game would have told you how to beat him like it did with just about every other boss in the game.
IMHO, Hades's Heart is the worst boss fight in Kid Icarus: Uprising! It is extremely frustrating, it is hard to see where the boss is going to go, his attacks are extremely cheep, you're fighting him in a compact maze environment, and unlike Aurum Pyrrhon, it does not effect anny progression of the story whatsoever! With the exception that your Three Sacred Treasures get destroyed very early on.
You know what I'd love to see you do? A countdown of the Sengoku Basara characters, from worst to best. Or at least your ten favorites. This could also include characters who (at least here in the West) have a greater presence in the anime series. I think that might be a nice change of pace, for a themed list.
honestly I was laughing the whole time at #1 cause 1 I was expecting gill, 2 I actually like gill (character wise) and 3 I was listening to his time while watching
It took forever between the insane difficulty and the fact I hadn't played megaman in forever, but after my 25th or so attempt I MADE AZTEC FALCON MY B!TCH and now that I play the DS version he's a pushover. god it's satisfying to be able to do a perfect run of the entire first Zero game! ...although if I weren't so fixated on that kind of thing I'd probably have beaten Zero 2 by now and 3 and even 4. *sigh* yep, Yu Yevon is still f#cking stupid. Narrative or not, symbolic or whatever, it's still unlike cloud's final showdown presented as a full on boss fight, meaning GAMEPLAY NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED. I honestly hate the final boss of another 3 for having no challenge whatsoever. Yes I know mother 3 isn't supposed to be a hard game, yes I know the final boss is purely for story purposes, but it's still a huge disappointment...
18:11 It's actually pretty easy to stop that super, especially if your character has a fast aerial attack that sends them extremely far(such as Ken's EX Tatsu)
Heh. Probably taking that Arkham battle too seriously. He's annoying, but the theme of it is that he is nothing to the Sons of Sparda, meaning that you don't need Devil Trigger or special styles to beat him. Yes, using the rocket launcher IS the best move. And as for avoiding the leaches? No challenge. You just jump. You jump out of the way and blow them to bits. Indeed, that is a bit repetitive, but think of it this way: You are humiliating this boss who thinks that he's all-powerful. You're making the statement that he is so below contempt that you don't even need special moves to beat him. With those telegraphed moves and predictable style? Yes, it is a disappointment, but only because he's an unworthy human.
my least favorite boss battle is surely Azazel, from Tekken 6... and for JUST. ONE. REASON: "AUTO-BLOCK"... seriously, how many times i tried to attack that thing in the middle of his attacks, and i see that block animation followed by his GODDAMN combos. And that's only the beginning, because it also has lasers, that mosquito projectiles, that rolling... there's not a single thing that i don't hate about this boss besides the endings where he dies for sure
maverick what gaming convention do you go to? I ask because think of the similarities we both have minus the fact that I haven't touched any final fantasy, odd world, animal crossing or harvest moon game. Let's see we both like non linear adventures 1, we both hate tails v eggman final 2, we both hate the bosses in diddy Kong racing. 3, we both love sonic the hedgehog franchise, 4, we both like kid icarus uprising that's 5 call me crazy but since my parents are planning on taking me to your home country this summer it is likely we will meet face to face at whatever convention you go to and I know from the face cam shots in your videos who you are (no creepiness intended) we will be besties when we meet there I love your work you make entertaining a segment that would lock even quarterguy fall asleep if anyone else were talking about it. you are the ho oh/broly/beerus/ Bill cipher of UA-cam (by that I mean anyone would be a fool to try to challenge you and I use these examples because they are strong it is just a coincidence that none of the comparisons I used are nice people/ pokemon/Egyptian dog things/triangle dream demons
If you think Gill is cheap you're going to lose your shit when you fight SNK bosses like Ignis from King of Fighters 2001 or the boss of King of Fighter XI which is literally a walking bullet hell.
there's is a difference between final bosses and last battles so it depends I agree that braskas final aeon is the final boss but yu yevon is the last battle, kinda like final fantasy 15 some consider ifrit the final boss, but theres another guy
Eh. I definitely consider Ardyn the final boss. It would've been harder for me, but at the end of the game I was WAAAAAAAY overleveled, so it made it too easy. Honestly, I wish Final Fantasy XV had other difficulties other than the default.
I played the Wii U version of Sonic Lost World. And while you have the option to make the bosses easier, only 2 of the 19 bosses were bad in my opinion. Coincedentaly those bosses were two of the three Zeena fights.
The sorrow boss fight from mgs3. It offers a great message, like yu yevan. Problem is how boring it is. The first time I played was the worst. I killef a whole lot of people so the battle was very. I played it once but forgot that if you save in a boss fight, you will start from the start. I then beated him but didn't know about the fake death, so back to the beginninf. I've finally beaten it the third time
"video games should never pick a message over gameplay " oh maverick you ate lucky you never fought rank 1 in no more heroes 2 because jasper batt junior is a worse final boss than yu yevon
I honestly disagree with Yu yevon being a bad boss fight, it perfectly encompasses the whole point of the character, he used the religon that sprang up around him, the summoners and their guardians to maintain his life and control over pretty much the entire planet through fear. Id argue that if they did make him really tough that it would have made less sense simply because if he was really that strong on his own he wouldnt rely on others so much to maintain his grip on power and life. The easiness of the fight shows how, after stripping away his "armor" he is nothing but a pathetic creature hiding behind others to seem powerful
I agree with the Aztec Falcon boss fight ugh time consuming especially if you aren't familiar with Zero's moves (and trust me that early on can be an issue since i rarely used zero in the X games). *Sees number 1* Yes yes YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I hate this boss fight everything about him screams rage quit especially that damn resurrection and his second super
The sonic lost world fight you talk about reminds me of King cut-out from dk64. Loved the game but with the annoying boozed he makes when he is bouncing around in his last part of the fight and then there is the crapy cannons you have to use. I guess it is better that you have all 5 kongs to your use. But you have to be fast in the last phase or you lose on of your kongs.
here's what I don't get ' you say that Yu Yevon segment being intentionally designed to be pathetic through gameplay doesn't work because FF10 is a video game, but isn't that the best way to show how weak the boss is? letting the player experience first hand how pitiful it is with how many ways Yu Yevons can die or even die to its own attacks? if not through gameplay how else would they show how pathetic Yu Yevon is? should the characters have just said it was easy? well that breaks the rule of show don't tell, the game can say whatever it wants but its more effective if the player actually experiences what is stated, for instance, (Spoilers for spec ops the line) would the white phosphorus attack have left nearly the same impact on the player if they were only told about what it did to its victims instead of the player actually seeing it for themselves? also against Yu Yevon, I think saying the player is only thinking about how bad the fight is is a bit of an assumption, wouldn't the player also be thinking of how easy the fight was thereby getting the message across that Yu Yevon is really just an over glorified tick? yes there are cases where using gameplay to convey a message can fail such as Jasper from No more heroes 2 where the message that revenge is never satisfying doesn't work because revenge was no longer Travis's main reason for fighting, but Yu Yevin doesn't really suffer from that kind of narrative blunder, the message is that its pathetic, and the player would definitely notice such through how easy of a fight it is sorry if I didn't represent some of your points accurately this is just how I felt about what was said
+MaverickHunterZero75 I was wondering have you played fire emblem fates yet? If so will you do a top 10 units list in that game like you did with Awakening?
I know this was made 6 years ago, but a little honorable mention I'd like to give is to Ryu in Street Fighter Alpha 3 - specifically when he's the penultimate boss of Sakura's Arcade Mode route. This boss fight just IRKED ME. Ryu just Hadouken spammed to NO END, and when I managed to get close to him, he either punched or Shoryukened me. And keep in mind, I was playing Alpha 3 using the 30th Anniversary Collection *_ON THE LOWEST DIFFICULTY SETTING._*
so still having difficulty with Crash Bash Maverick ? i can understand that some of the bosses in Crash bash were kinda in the cheep department but i never had difficulty with the komodo,bros i only ever had frustrations with bearminator and N.Oxide also i can understand gill being a prick for boss fights but really he is NOTHING compaired to some of the bosses i had to face Unlimated Hazama Paris,Lsia Geas Howard Choas ( FF Duodecumn 012 ) Goro the list could just go on but i totaly agree with you that gill is Cheep jerk
+MaverichHunterZero75 I know Sengoku Basara and my favorite characters are Tokugawa Ieyasu and Date Masamune (my favorite samurai in real life too). My favorite boss battles are Osaka Dragon Summer (fighting my two favorite characters and a giant mech), and the Sekigahara battles against Mitsunari (as they make me feel like I'm killing Mitsunari and becoming shogun), I never fought Kobayakawa Hideaki (always go with Nankobo Tenkai), and my least favorite boss battles are Amago Haruhisa (I like chasing bosses throughout the whole stage, but instead of having him run they have him hide and finding him is booooooooooooring!), and Naoe Kanetsugu (two words and a number: Yu Yevon 2). What about you? Are you with the West or with the East?
Wait a sec. at 6 you we talking about two bosses little horn and Larry... the binding of issac has a boss named little horn and a boss named Larry jr... has science gone to far?
Just for the record, I spoil the hell out of Crisis Core and to a lesser extent Final Fantasy X/X-2 past the Read More. Be aware of that, comment readers, though it's mostly stuff everyone already knows. If anyone actually reads all thist, please reply. Even if you don't say anything about it, I'll at least know I didn't waste my time with this essay. Aztec Falcon rails you because he jumps you early, not because of any particular difficulty he has to himself. Best you can do is to reject the mission, haul your scrawny red ass back to the lab, and shoot and/or slash robot spiders until you can slap birdy with charge hits. On Hard Mode, just, yeah, good luck with that. Never liked how Zero's Hard Mode works by gimping you instead of making everything else stronger, and ALWAYS hated the ranking system. Series would be so much better if it were just removed. Impossible-to-dodge magic is why I dropped Secret of Mana at Spiky Tiger. If you're going to have undodgeable attacks, just make a turn based RPG. Here's the big one... A better comparison for Yu Yevon than The Wizard of Oz would be the finale of Crisis Core. Genesis Avatar is Braska's Final Aeon, the big bad monster that towers over you but is nonetheless someone important, Genesis is the aeon battles, the battle against someone/something the lead(s) know and care about (though Zack obviously doesn't like Genesis personally the way that Yuna cared for her Aeons, he still goes through the bother of hauling his unconscious ass out of the Banora Underground after all is said and done) and the Last Stand is Yu Yevon, the finale where the outcome is already decided. Yu Yevon will be destroyed, and Tidus will disappear. Zack will lay dying in a pool of his own blood, bequeathing his Buster Sword and legacy to Cloud, gunned down by the very same organization that he spent a good chunk of his life fighting for. Yes, the tone of trying to contradict these outcomes is different. Trying to fight off the Shinra Army is completely hopeless and depressing, as you know that no matter how hard you try, they have enough (infinite) reserves to wear Zack down and put an end to him. This is how the narrative is supposed to run. Contradicting the inevitability of defeating Yu Yevon and sacrificing Tidus for the greater good is not like that because the narrative simply doesn't account for you petrifying your entire party on purpose solely to spite the game for setting the stage so that you could not reasonably lose. That's just how it turned out. Also, the Last Stand works better than Yu Yevon because, widely, nobody gives a fuck about Tidus. It is my understanding that most people like Zack a whole lot better than Tidus, so the fact that the only thing he has in store for him at the end of his game is a messy gank of a death at the hands of the corporation that betrayed him is depressing. The fact that Tidus cannot exist if the best course of action for the world at large is taken doesn't hit nearly as hard because it's Tidus. Also, Final Fantasy X-2 brings him back in the secret ending and the destruction of Yu Yevon/removal of Tidus actually accomplishes in destroying Sin for good, bringing a level of peace to Spira that would only be disrupted to a major degree (glossing over things like the petty disputes over spheres that occur between the Gullwings and Leblanc's posse) by Shuyin and Vegnagun, threats that simply do not have the legacy or ability to come back that Sin had, so Tidus' sacrifice pretty clearly did the world a huge solid that would not have been matched by him being around to punt Blitzballs at a giant robot moth. The death of Zack ultimately brings nothing of value. He is dead and not coming back (whereas Tidus does in the secret ending), Shinra got away with faking his death by making it a reality, and the only tangible thing anyone got out of it was Cloud getting a giant sword and an identity crisis. If Tidus had not disappeared by sparing Yu Yevon, Spira would have to continue banishing Sin until somebody else decided to nut up and take him out. If Zack had not died to the Shinra army, Gaia (the name of FFVII's planet) would be no worse off for it. To put it more shortly, Tidus' sacrifice doesn't work because it's a clear cut case of "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" and most people out-of-universe don't like him. Zack's death captures the tragedy that Tidus' disappearance fails to because most people who play Crisis Core actually like him, and he ultimately got murdered for no good reason, with his death accomplishing nothing of value. And I would argue that Crisis Core sacrifices gameplay to get its message across because of the sloppy way it handles the Last Stand mechanically. You CAN indefinitely stall because the DMW breaks are scripted to happen when Zack's health bottoms out. If you have Break HP Limit, 99,999 HP, the Genji Shield for permanent Barrier and M-Barrier and maxed VIT/SPR, then even on Hard Mode the helicopter's missiles are not strong enough to single-handedly cause a DMW break, meaning you can heal back to full health, meaning that you can keep at it as long as you want, meaning that you have to lean into the pitch to advance the scripts. The easiest way they could've absolved this would be to make the DMW breaks happen based on the total damage Zack has taken so that you CAN'T heal through it, and that even if you try your best, you WILL get worn down eventually, no matter how much HP you recover with your Curaga and Genji Helm's 0 MP Cost. So, in short, Yu Yevon is like a crappy version of Crisis Core's Last Stand moreso than a crappy version of the end of The Wizard of Oz.
My lest fave 2 is the men-o-arms in dragon quest monsters joker because he attacks twice every turn & our teams isn't up to par for it yet sence it's on the castle island
my worst bosses 10: dark gaia hd sonic unleashed 9: giant spider oogie's revenge you fight it twice for no reason boring 8: orochi long boss fight you play it 3 times 7: dark bowser pathetically easy final boss 6: petey piranha fourth boss and if you beat him without pulling your hair out you will likely only survive by one bro of 4 5: ghetsis level 54 hydreigon 4: red megaman x7 snk levels of cheap 3: narmer etrian oddesy 2: vile final megaman x 1: heart of Hades kid icarus uprising
I disagree Hideaki being the worst character personally. On his own yes he's lacklustre but his friendship with Tenkai was brilliant. I love Tenkai's character development and it mostly happens because of Hideaki.
Personally I think penance as ff10's true final boss but I guess you don't like super bosses that much. Also was you thinking about quarter guy and wii dude's collab video when you was talking about the lowering difficulty?
Really? The Pyrhhon battle? It's EASY! Don't get how that made your list over Hades' Heart, generally considered by almost everyone to be the worst boss in the game.
9. I had a feeling you were building up to him 8. That sounds HORRIBLE!!! Especially since you won't be able to properly play the game until you beat...-WAIT A MINUTE! How come YOU can have watermarks in your videos but I CAN'T? 7. That sounds EXTREMELY annoying 4. Only played the Wii-u version
The way I see it, watermarked footage should be a last resort, like if you can't find any better footage, and such was the case with this. I don't like using footage with watermarks; in fact, I hate doing it. But sometimes, you don't really have any better options.
I like to think of Yu Yevon and the Aeons as the last exposition "hey you beat the final boss, heres some extra fight just to calm down from the high of Jecht. Enjoy!" ya know? Thats my thought process at least :P
I was actually one of those defenders of Yu Yevon's patheticness, but I immediately said afterward that it doesn't excuse how terrible the boss is. I like that kind of symbolism, but at the same time I agree with critics of Yu Yevon and Jasper Batt Jr. in that such a message should never come at the cost of game design and the player's enjoyment.
yeah I see your point about Yu Yevon, but im in the majority of people who believe it being pathetic was the whole point, it even possessed your Aeon's in a vain attempt to kill you before being forced to fight you directly, granted it would of been cool if it actually was a threat and followed the great Braska's Final Aeon.
I realy don't like secret of mana that much, i played when i was a kid and i remember having fun until i get to the first boss, then i played again last year, and the boss was still horrible, i mean, what's the pointo of making a action rpg when you can move around, with unavoidable attacks? If you can avoid it, then they should've make this game a turn base rpg instead
Nice list, couldn't agree more with how obnoxious or tedious these bosses are . Also i'm Glad you gave secret of mana a try. with my nostalgia glasses off the game has A LOT of faults as you've mentioned, but for the most part it was a solid game. Though someone once pointed out that there seems to be stuff missing from the games story. Hope it gets a remake one day, fixing all the game play issues as well as mending the story and what seems to be missing.
Thing if Zeena wasn’t there I would’ve raged Wow wow wait, Zor, u still despise zeena though right, also what’s your top 7 of the bosses in the 3ds version
great list but a fun thing to mention if you and the fiery joker were to have a bout with your favorite characters from his side dynasty warriors and your side sangoku basara, who would be your picks, since I got a good idea sima yi would be josh's choice
I have to admit, I kinda expected you to make a nod to the demon wall from one of your previous lists, as in hindsight they are kinda similar. A wall that moves closer and closer to you until it finally puts you in an unavoidable situation and kills you. I dunno
I was gonna say your point regarding the Zor fight was stupid since you being on a road trip was the real issue, but then it occurred to me. That game is on a *handheld* , as in a system meant to be *taken on the go.* So yeah the developers should have considered the situations people might be in when playing that game.
I thought for sure that you would have mentioned the dumb one in skyward sword, but I guess it makes sense because what is so annoying is that it makes up the majority of the boss fights in the game. Nice that you still put it on the number screen.
Okay okay I get it, it's your opinion but Arkham's boss fight is in my opinion the best fight in the whole series. It's just that good to me. I love it.
The fight with Yu Yevon is the same reason why the fight with Jasper Twat Jr. fails so hard.- because it's not just the protagonists going through the unsatisfactory crawl of defeating them, it's YOU as well.
Jasper twat jr XD
I would say jasper’s worse
#10 brings shame on chefs and stag beetles.
When I was small I thought stags were beetles, not deer.
I actually don't mind Hideaki
Same here. I played him in Utage and I gotta say he doesn't meet BASARA's standards for a good boss, but he is a damn good playable character with a decent moveset.
Woah'. Changes in your intro! Did your avatar get taller?
I'm glad someone finally mentioned Aztec Falcon on this kind of list. I despise that boss with a burning passion.
for me, (with 3DS version of Sonic Lost World) I had to stand up while facing Zor AND/OR PLAYING THOSE ATROCIOUS SPECIAL STAGES!!!
Back in ze old daaayz
10. Completely agreed. I don't even waste my time on this guy anymore.
9. I personally think there are worse-designed ones, but yeah he still sucks.
8. ........ Am I the only one who hates Aztec Falcon for the opposite reasons? For how hard the Zero series is, I personally find this guy WAY too easy, even having played the original game first. And the time limit never once came close to 0 for me so I don't even think it's necessary.
7. Not gonna quote the stupid sound clip...
6. Haven't played Super Meat Boy yet, and to be honest this isn't tempting me to. Crap bosses tend to turn me off to a game very quickly.
5. This is how not to design an RPG boss, folks.
4. I don't own a 3DS yet so I'll just take your word for it here.
3. Wow... I like the Devil May Cry games but holy crap. This fight was just sloppy.
2. Now I know where Jasper Batt Jr. got it from. Except the more infuriating way.
1. And that's why I don't play Street Fighter, kids. I can barely tolerate bad bosses from other fighting games; this guy is hands-down one of the worst in history.
I don't really see why a bad final boss in a fighting game would derive from the franchise.
Unless you play them exclusively for single player I suppose.
I'm not much of a competitive fighting game player; I don't have a brain for that stuff against other players, especially online. I can deal with some badly designed bosses in these games (for pete's sake, I can deal with Unlimited Hazama from BlazBlue without batting an eye), but Gil takes the fucking cake.
15:44 Something something Jasper Batt Jr.
FUCKING GILL. Let's hope he won't be playable in SFV or the final boss of that game's upcoming Cinematic Story Mode.
+nifinland I think NOBODY wants to see him as DLC in any of the games and I swear if he is one in SF5 expect rage to ensure
+nifinland
Why don't you want to play as him? It's a free pass to utterly destroy every single character in the game with minimal effort!
Fuck. He's back. Gill's back.
nifinland Play as him!
Any honorable ( or dishonorable I guess) mentions?
You remind me of rabbidluigi (that's a good thing)
"Don't make bosses bad on purpose. No one likes bad bosses." (cough)JasperBattJr(cough)
+TheHeroOfTomorrow Or Lucein from Fable 2
In my opinion, Undyne the Undying was a much better-designed boss in Undertale's Genocide route than Sans was. While Undyne's attacks were devastating if you got hit, they had some easy patterns to learn, and honestly, the fight was fun. Sans, on the other hand, is supposed to punish people for almost beating the game. How does that work? Oh right, it was a *bad boss made on purpose to prove a moral point*.
Kirbachu5
To be fair, so was Jasper Batt, Jr. But the point Suda was trying to make was a stupid one that had already been made far more effectively.
TheHeroOfTomorrow *cough* Gongora/Lost Odyssey *cough*
Only. and I mean ONLY redeeming quality is his battle theme.
That's the only reason he's not my least favorite boss period. (That being Ixtab from Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom), but Gongora is my #2
TheHeroOfTomorrow ahem It's Bastard Twat Jr.
It's unsurprising that people consider Jecht/Braska's Final Aeon the true final boss of FFX. They do the same with Safer-Sephiroth in VII.
Funny you mentioning that, because the one on one duel between Cloud and Sephiroth was number one on his original list.
that's because safer sephiroth IS the final boss. the last bit is just for show. it's not meant to be a battle. it's a one button press deal. with yu yevon, it plays like any battle and it's meticulously done. it plays like any other fight, unlike the end of ff7
And if that weren't enough, Young Xehanort is considered by many to be the true final boss instead of the Armored Ventus Nightmare. Sure, the latter was more of a filler, hence infamy of the former, but even then he should be considered more as the final boss.
As much as I'd hate to say it, Ventus Nightmare was pretty much entirely cutscenes. It also has a surprisingly low amount of health and attack power for the boss coming after Y. Xehanort. While it is, by name, the final boss, he seems more like the victory lap after your victory against Y. Xehanort.But I'll admit, it was flashy as hell.
+Kirbachu5 he's still the last mandatory opponent of the game. the way i see it a game can have multiple final bosses that serve different purposes. also armored ventus nightmare can't be a cutscene since its fought like any other boss
10: *sigh* If only I went and faced Tenkai instead of this moron on my first playthrough of Mitsunari's story.
9. I hate the fight with Arlon more.
8. Yeah, I need to get the DS version.
7. There's no fail song in here. 0/10
6. Haven't gotten that far into Super Meat Boy, but I can say that aside from Boss 1, I am not impressed with its boss roster.
5. Demon Wall 2.0
4. No matter how much I love Lost World, I won't deny that this was a terrible fight.
3. Need to play this series sometime.
2. Oh, it's the Jasper Batt Jr. conspiracy all over again.
1. And people say Seth is the cheapest SF boss.
Great list Mavy!
What was so bad about Arlon?
Demon Wall 2.0? no, it is actually an easy boss. Just two rules, to win: 1. Train your magic or take walnuts with you 2. the eyes become untargetable if they do specific actions. To sum it up, like many secret of mana bosses, it can easily be killed with spell-lockdown (the reason that was removed in secret of mana 2)
The reason why Seth isn't worse than Gill is cause you can beat him with focus attacks.No such luck with Gill.
I actually hate Pit's Body more. Here's the scoop:
You're using a giant sword club with melee attacks.
Pit's Body is using a bow with melee AND ranged attacks!
Cuz that's fair!
Jack The Lightning Ripper and number 6 inspired the Larry bosses in the binding of Isaac
4:08 At least you don't have to deal with him screaming *"BURN! BURN! BURN TO THE GROUND!"*
Please do more count downs like this. While the playthroughs are a nice change of pace, The main reason I watch is the count downs. Maybe you could switch back and forth, 3 lets plays and one count down. Or something like that.
Even with what I said above, I would love to see you play a Final Fantasy game.
Well, I had no intention of scrapping countdowns. I just do LPs to provide my viewers with something to watch while I work on major projects like this.
+MaverickHunterZero75 makes sense.
+MaverickHunterZero75
Would you like to make top 10 Xenoblade bosses, top 10 JRPG bosses, top 10 hated characters, top 10 favorite villains or a top 10 about Crash?
+MaverickHunterZero75 What's your next Top 10 list going to be? Have you considered Heroes, Heroines, Anti-Heroes or Villains?
Two things:
One, what you said about making a boss bad on purpose just for the sake of a message being stupid? I certainly agree! And Yu yevon isn't the only one guilty of this idiotic type of ideas! Jasper Batt Jr could be considered a bad offender as well... And the message supposedly conveyed was bad from the get go!
And two, regarding Gill... RESURRECTION!! AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And also... Don't worry, Gill won't cause nightmares anymore. Why? Because Max beat him... AND FOR HIM, IT WAS TUESDAY!!!
Coincidentally enough, this video was also uploaded on a Tuesday.
+MaverickHunterZero75 Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!
***** Funny coincidence indeed.
+MaverickHunterZero75 Makes sense because you used footage from Max's Boss Rage video.
tim5fl And honestly? It was the HYPEST footage.
I think the biggest problem with Aztec Falcon is that it is not all that difficult to get an A or S Rank on the first mission, so he will end up using his EX Attack (which the bosses only use when you have A or S rank to provide extra challenge). He isn't as bad without his EX Attack, but he is still a pain.
The thing about the plot defense for Yu Yevon is it doesn't portray that message well at all. Yu Yevon doesn't feel like a weakling, he feel like a normal boss battle, except you have permanent auto life... (and he lacks important boss immunities).
I understand that Gil was annoying with his resurrection super, but have you played any of the KoF bosses? Those guys are ridiculous.
I personaly think Hades heart was worst than aurum pyron......and fuck Gill, he is in my list of characters I want to kill.
+TheGhostgodzilla You have to kill him twice thanks to Resurrection.
(I never played ANY street fighter games)
+CMG HD
If you prevent his special bar from filling he won't resurrect.
Yeah, I don't think any luck will come from trying to do that
(again, haven't played SF3)
You should do top ten favorite video game villains.
+ANIME BADNESS Yeah, he should!
+Shadow Garth the Time Razor I know right
Number 1 would be every villain from Xenogears.
Grahf, Miang, Krelian and Ramsus all feel like actual humans and the only other villains that I consider close to actual humans in terms of personality are Sephiroth and Egil.
Time Glitch Kefka does his job as a villain well, but he's not human. The only thing he wants is destruction, and why? Because he thinks killing is cool. Sephiroth on the other hand wants to show the world that he wants to be considered a person, not a killing machine, and that same motivation is also Ramsus's one. I love Kefka, don't get me wrong, but in terms of deep personality Sephiroth is better.
Time Glitch I know.
#9 Wait... Hades Heart for once isn't on this list?
#8 OMG YUS!!
#2 wait... people are defending this boss fight? Seriously this is about as arguably as bad as it's sequel final boss.
TOO many people. Go see the comments on that vid. Seriously, nearly everyone agrees on Jasper Batt Jr's irony being bad but with Yu Yevon everyone loves the irony?
+Daniel Thomas I don't get why even defend Yu Yevon in the 1st place. By bio Stats its not the best Final Boss powers, it gives Barthandelus Final form in his fight a run for it's money. When I 1st saw it, I was expecting Yu Yevon to ironically look like a man, not this weirdly Parasite-Metroid looking thing with Yevons Symbol on it.
Too be fair, that's because Jasper Batt Jr is frustrating, while Yu Yevon is just pathetic
I may love FFX but I'm not going so far to defend the final boss that is Yu Yevon. Trying to defend Yu Yevon is like defending the Final Boss/all the forms of the Final Boss that is FFX-2.
The Wii u version of lost world is actually really great, but it's bosses were the worst
Ever since Colors, handheld Sonic games have only been ports of the console games of the same names, and the in the case of the 3DS ports, the consoles versions have been worlds superior
+SloththeChaos666 the 3DS version of lost world was ass
Avi Haltmann i really enjoy the wiiu/PC version but i freaking hate the 3ds version.
Anyone else reminded of the Demon Wall by #5?
I hated Aurum Pyrrhon too. I actually had to google how to hit him because Pauletena and Viridi only tell you to jump and shoot. Any boss that I have to GOOGLE how to do damage to it deserves whatever hate it gets in my opinion.
11:00 The worst part of your experience with Zorr? The gyroscope probably read every turn the car made, throwing you off each time. Found out about that through OoT 3DS's bow controls.
Honestly I had no problems with Yu Yevon because it was so short. These days they would probably replace it with a quicktime event. Also I freaked out because I was spent after beating the Final Aeon, so the plot over gameplay device really worked for me.
That feel when almost all of the Gil fight footage is boss rage footage
Some of the only good quality footage of the Gill fight I could find.
***** I respect the choice. Only man on earth who could make fighting that monster look almost fair.
Heh, when you mentioned Devil May Cry 3 I was certain you would choose Gigapede (giant flying tapeworm for those who haven't played the game) for being a boring boss fight in an excellent game. Then again I can understand your hate for Arkham battle - the worms are annoying, but Vergil can really help with them - thank GOD Vergil immortal in that fight. Suprised you didn't mention Arkham's homing projectiles-tentacle attack - they are pain to avoid.
Still I do not dislike this battle, the concept is nice - Arkham's "true form" is as deformed as his heart (he sacrificed his own wife - that's messed up), I heard second player can control Vergil and music is nice. Sure, they could make it better but I still prefer it over Jester's bullet hell battles from special edition.
Nice countdown anyway.
I agree. Gigapede was a super lame boss. No skill is required outside of dodging and jumping on its back to damage it. The Arkham fight really wasn't that bad to me. Honestly, I just bullrushed him and managed to win. Had to use a couple of items, but that was years ago when I as a gamer was more concerned with winning and progressing, even if the methods I used were cheap.
Eh. Jester's bullet hell fight was annoying, but a few key dodges and parries, along with capitalizing on damage opportunities made it pretty simple. Honestly, the boss I probably hate the most in DMC 3 is Cerberus. The lack of mobility in that boss fight really frustrated me.
I actually defeated Gill in Third Strike a couple days ago. Is it weird that of all my attempts to beat him that he only revived himself out of all of his Super Arts?
Just imagine this scenario for #4:
Officer: You know why I pulled you over?
Driver: Why, sir?
Officer: Your passenger isn't wearing a seatbelt.
Driver: Sorry, officer, he's having to use the 3ds' gyroscopic controls for the Zor fight from Sonic: Lost World.
Officer: Oh... well, I'll let you off with a warning, but next time, just play the best game for 3ds, Fire Emblem Awakening.
1. I found your original least favorite bosses list to be your first great video. The others ranged from decent to bad. & 2.
You did a really good job here. this list may have had some entries i knew were gonna be here because of some of your past videos but there were just as many entries that caught me off guard. lastly I find it funny that you're new intro was done by Ty who also ranted on Aurum Pyrron (Yeah I know I spelled it wrong)
2:48 Does he run at you, make himself invincible or make clones that explode? No? OK, then. Hades' heart is worse.
And Phoenix has the jump-pad shenanigans WAAAYYY worse than Pyron
Aztec Falcon is only hard if you don't have to foresight to level up your Buster Gun and Z-Saber to at least be able to charge them. Seriously, it doesn't take long, the Gun can be done as early as before getting to the Golem in the opening stage.
Have to agree with #9. That whole chapter was my least favorite part of Kid Icarus Uprising. I didn't even know that I was supposed to destroy the green energy orbs in order to damage Pyrhon until I looked it up on the Internet. You'd think the game would have told you how to beat him like it did with just about every other boss in the game.
IMHO, Hades's Heart is the worst boss fight in Kid Icarus: Uprising! It is extremely frustrating, it is hard to see where the boss is going to go, his attacks are extremely cheep, you're fighting him in a compact maze environment, and unlike Aurum Pyrrhon, it does not effect anny progression of the story whatsoever! With the exception that your Three Sacred Treasures get destroyed very early on.
Kid Icarus: Uprising is still my favorite 3DS game though despite its flaws.
You know what I'd love to see you do? A countdown of the Sengoku Basara characters, from worst to best. Or at least your ten favorites. This could also include characters who (at least here in the West) have a greater presence in the anime series. I think that might be a nice change of pace, for a themed list.
For number 7, you should have brought back the "Fail" song from the first list
honestly I was laughing the whole time at #1 cause 1 I was expecting gill, 2 I actually like gill (character wise) and 3 I was listening to his time while watching
It took forever between the insane difficulty and the fact I hadn't played megaman in forever, but after my 25th or so attempt I MADE AZTEC FALCON MY B!TCH and now that I play the DS version he's a pushover. god it's satisfying to be able to do a perfect run of the entire first Zero game! ...although if I weren't so fixated on that kind of thing I'd probably have beaten Zero 2 by now and 3 and even 4.
*sigh* yep, Yu Yevon is still f#cking stupid. Narrative or not, symbolic or whatever, it's still unlike cloud's final showdown presented as a full on boss fight, meaning GAMEPLAY NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED. I honestly hate the final boss of another 3 for having no challenge whatsoever. Yes I know mother 3 isn't supposed to be a hard game, yes I know the final boss is purely for story purposes, but it's still a huge disappointment...
18:11 It's actually pretty easy to stop that super, especially if your character has a fast aerial attack that sends them extremely far(such as Ken's EX Tatsu)
HE LITERALLY POINTED THAT OUT SOON AFTER HE MENTIONED IT.
@@GlitchanBlack I specifically mentioned when you’re far away.
Heh. Probably taking that Arkham battle too seriously. He's annoying, but the theme of it is that he is nothing to the Sons of Sparda, meaning that you don't need Devil Trigger or special styles to beat him. Yes, using the rocket launcher IS the best move. And as for avoiding the leaches? No challenge. You just jump. You jump out of the way and blow them to bits. Indeed, that is a bit repetitive, but think of it this way: You are humiliating this boss who thinks that he's all-powerful. You're making the statement that he is so below contempt that you don't even need special moves to beat him. With those telegraphed moves and predictable style? Yes, it is a disappointment, but only because he's an unworthy human.
my least favorite boss battle is surely Azazel, from Tekken 6... and for JUST. ONE. REASON: "AUTO-BLOCK"... seriously, how many times i tried to attack that thing in the middle of his attacks, and i see that block animation followed by his GODDAMN combos. And that's only the beginning, because it also has lasers, that mosquito projectiles, that rolling... there's not a single thing that i don't hate about this boss besides the endings where he dies for sure
maverick what gaming convention do you go to? I ask because think of the similarities we both have minus the fact that I haven't touched any final fantasy, odd world, animal crossing or harvest moon game. Let's see we both like non linear adventures 1, we both hate tails v eggman final 2, we both hate the bosses in diddy Kong racing. 3, we both love sonic the hedgehog franchise, 4, we both like kid icarus uprising that's 5 call me crazy but since my parents are planning on taking me to your home country this summer it is likely we will meet face to face at whatever convention you go to and I know from the face cam shots in your videos who you are (no creepiness intended) we will be besties when we meet there I love your work you make entertaining a segment that would lock even quarterguy fall asleep if anyone else were talking about it. you are the ho oh/broly/beerus/ Bill cipher of UA-cam (by that I mean anyone would be a fool to try to challenge you and I use these examples because they are strong it is just a coincidence that none of the comparisons I used are nice people/ pokemon/Egyptian dog things/triangle dream demons
If you think Gill is cheap you're going to lose your shit when you fight SNK bosses like Ignis from King of Fighters 2001 or the boss of King of Fighter XI which is literally a walking bullet hell.
there's is a difference between final bosses and last battles so it depends I agree that braskas final aeon is the final boss but yu yevon is the last battle, kinda like final fantasy 15 some consider ifrit the final boss, but theres another guy
Eh. I definitely consider Ardyn the final boss. It would've been harder for me, but at the end of the game I was WAAAAAAAY overleveled, so it made it too easy. Honestly, I wish Final Fantasy XV had other difficulties other than the default.
I played the Wii U version of Sonic Lost World. And while you have the option to make the bosses easier, only 2 of the 19 bosses were bad in my opinion. Coincedentaly those bosses were two of the three Zeena fights.
The sorrow boss fight from mgs3. It offers a great message, like yu yevan. Problem is how boring it is. The first time I played was the worst. I killef a whole lot of people so the battle was very. I played it once but forgot that if you save in a boss fight, you will start from the start. I then beated him but didn't know about the fake death, so back to the beginninf. I've finally beaten it the third time
"video games should never pick a message over gameplay " oh maverick you ate lucky you never fought rank 1 in no more heroes 2 because jasper batt junior is a worse final boss than yu yevon
I honestly disagree with Yu yevon being a bad boss fight, it perfectly encompasses the whole point of the character, he used the religon that sprang up around him, the summoners and their guardians to maintain his life and control over pretty much the entire planet through fear. Id argue that if they did make him really tough that it would have made less sense simply because if he was really that strong on his own he wouldnt rely on others so much to maintain his grip on power and life. The easiness of the fight shows how, after stripping away his "armor" he is nothing but a pathetic creature hiding behind others to seem powerful
I agree with the Aztec Falcon boss fight ugh time consuming especially if you aren't familiar with Zero's moves (and trust me that early on can be an issue since i rarely used zero in the X games).
*Sees number 1* Yes yes YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I hate this boss fight everything about him screams rage quit especially that damn resurrection and his second super
The sonic lost world fight you talk about reminds me of King cut-out from dk64. Loved the game but with the annoying boozed he makes when he is bouncing around in his last part of the fight and then there is the crapy cannons you have to use. I guess it is better that you have all 5 kongs to your use. But you have to be fast in the last phase or you lose on of your kongs.
OneWingedAngel Disagree All You Want But Please Respect This
I Love Sonic Lost World.
Dear god, I feel so sorry that you had to play the 3ds version of Sonic Lost World. Fuck that game. FUCK IT.
🤔 you're kidding right? 3:00
well... how would you get Yu Yevon's message if you could change the execution?
It's just a finisher sequence like Sephiroth
I love how you put gill in this list! His theme is top 10 final boss themes imo
How about every enemy in the whole Batman Game series? That literally Want to Beat you Down!
Shawn Lowry
Every boss in Arkham Origins is amazing. Same with Arkham Knight, few bosses that there were. I haven't played the other two.
here's what I don't get '
you say that Yu Yevon segment being intentionally designed to be pathetic through gameplay doesn't work because FF10 is a video game, but isn't that the best way to show how weak the boss is? letting the player experience first hand how pitiful it is with how many ways Yu Yevons can die or even die to its own attacks? if not through gameplay how else would they show how pathetic Yu Yevon is? should the characters have just said it was easy? well that breaks the rule of show don't tell, the game can say whatever it wants but its more effective if the player actually experiences what is stated, for instance, (Spoilers for spec ops the line) would the white phosphorus attack have left nearly the same impact on the player if they were only told about what it did to its victims instead of the player actually seeing it for themselves?
also against Yu Yevon, I think saying the player is only thinking about how bad the fight is is a bit of an assumption, wouldn't the player also be thinking of how easy the fight was thereby getting the message across that Yu Yevon is really just an over glorified tick?
yes there are cases where using gameplay to convey a message can fail such as Jasper from No more heroes 2 where the message that revenge is never satisfying doesn't work because revenge was no longer Travis's main reason for fighting, but Yu Yevin doesn't really suffer from that kind of narrative blunder, the message is that its pathetic, and the player would definitely notice such through how easy of a fight it is
sorry if I didn't represent some of your points accurately this is just how I felt about what was said
How can Pyron be worst when Hades heart exists( i know it's his list).
What was your number transition theme in this countdown?
It's "Thanatos" from Soul Calibur IV.
+MaverickHunterZero75 I was wondering have you played fire emblem fates yet? If so will you do a top 10 units list in that game like you did with Awakening?
i still remember that fail song from the original least favourite boss battles it was a great remix
It's rare that Maverick covers something from an M-rated game.
Zor in the Wii Version was much better..
Arkham is Deviljho XD....except not good
6:14 I'd happily teach you... except I don't have Skype.
So... sorry. Can't help.
6:12
I know this was made 6 years ago, but a little honorable mention I'd like to give is to Ryu in Street Fighter Alpha 3 - specifically when he's the penultimate boss of Sakura's Arcade Mode route. This boss fight just IRKED ME. Ryu just Hadouken spammed to NO END, and when I managed to get close to him, he either punched or Shoryukened me. And keep in mind, I was playing Alpha 3 using the 30th Anniversary Collection *_ON THE LOWEST DIFFICULTY SETTING._*
so still having difficulty with Crash Bash Maverick ? i can understand that some of the bosses in Crash bash were kinda in the cheep department but i never had difficulty with the komodo,bros i only ever had frustrations with bearminator and N.Oxide
also i can understand gill being a prick for boss fights but really he is NOTHING compaired to some of the bosses i had to face
Unlimated Hazama
Paris,Lsia
Geas Howard
Choas ( FF Duodecumn 012 )
Goro
the list could just go on but i totaly agree with you that gill is Cheep jerk
Hey Mavy? Have you played the Wii U version of Sonic Lost World, or have you still only played just the 3DS version?
When you said Sonic Lost World was disappointing,did you mean the Wii U version or the 3DS version?
I hate Zeena as both a character and as a boss fight.
10:00 I FUCKING KNEW IT! I HATE THIS THING WAY MORE THAN I SHOULD!!!
+MaverichHunterZero75
I know Sengoku Basara and my favorite characters are Tokugawa Ieyasu and Date Masamune (my favorite samurai in real life too). My favorite boss battles are Osaka Dragon Summer (fighting my two favorite characters and a giant mech), and the Sekigahara battles against Mitsunari (as they make me feel like I'm killing Mitsunari and becoming shogun), I never fought Kobayakawa Hideaki (always go with Nankobo Tenkai), and my least favorite boss battles are Amago Haruhisa (I like chasing bosses throughout the whole stage, but instead of having him run they have him hide and finding him is booooooooooooring!), and Naoe Kanetsugu (two words and a number: Yu Yevon 2). What about you? Are you with the West or with the East?
Wait a sec. at 6 you we talking about two bosses little horn and Larry... the binding of issac has a boss named little horn and a boss named Larry jr... has science gone to far?
Just for the record, I spoil the hell out of Crisis Core and to a lesser extent Final Fantasy X/X-2 past the Read More. Be aware of that, comment readers, though it's mostly stuff everyone already knows. If anyone actually reads all thist, please reply. Even if you don't say anything about it, I'll at least know I didn't waste my time with this essay.
Aztec Falcon rails you because he jumps you early, not because of any particular difficulty he has to himself. Best you can do is to reject the mission, haul your scrawny red ass back to the lab, and shoot and/or slash robot spiders until you can slap birdy with charge hits.
On Hard Mode, just, yeah, good luck with that. Never liked how Zero's Hard Mode works by gimping you instead of making everything else stronger, and ALWAYS hated the ranking system. Series would be so much better if it were just removed.
Impossible-to-dodge magic is why I dropped Secret of Mana at Spiky Tiger. If you're going to have undodgeable attacks, just make a turn based RPG.
Here's the big one...
A better comparison for Yu Yevon than The Wizard of Oz would be the finale of Crisis Core. Genesis Avatar is Braska's Final Aeon, the big bad monster that towers over you but is nonetheless someone important, Genesis is the aeon battles, the battle against someone/something the lead(s) know and care about (though Zack obviously doesn't like Genesis personally the way that Yuna cared for her Aeons, he still goes through the bother of hauling his unconscious ass out of the Banora Underground after all is said and done) and the Last Stand is Yu Yevon, the finale where the outcome is already decided. Yu Yevon will be destroyed, and Tidus will disappear. Zack will lay dying in a pool of his own blood, bequeathing his Buster Sword and legacy to Cloud, gunned down by the very same organization that he spent a good chunk of his life fighting for.
Yes, the tone of trying to contradict these outcomes is different. Trying to fight off the Shinra Army is completely hopeless and depressing, as you know that no matter how hard you try, they have enough (infinite) reserves to wear Zack down and put an end to him. This is how the narrative is supposed to run. Contradicting the inevitability of defeating Yu Yevon and sacrificing Tidus for the greater good is not like that because the narrative simply doesn't account for you petrifying your entire party on purpose solely to spite the game for setting the stage so that you could not reasonably lose. That's just how it turned out.
Also, the Last Stand works better than Yu Yevon because, widely, nobody gives a fuck about Tidus. It is my understanding that most people like Zack a whole lot better than Tidus, so the fact that the only thing he has in store for him at the end of his game is a messy gank of a death at the hands of the corporation that betrayed him is depressing. The fact that Tidus cannot exist if the best course of action for the world at large is taken doesn't hit nearly as hard because it's Tidus. Also, Final Fantasy X-2 brings him back in the secret ending and the destruction of Yu Yevon/removal of Tidus actually accomplishes in destroying Sin for good, bringing a level of peace to Spira that would only be disrupted to a major degree (glossing over things like the petty disputes over spheres that occur between the Gullwings and Leblanc's posse) by Shuyin and Vegnagun, threats that simply do not have the legacy or ability to come back that Sin had, so Tidus' sacrifice pretty clearly did the world a huge solid that would not have been matched by him being around to punt Blitzballs at a giant robot moth. The death of Zack ultimately brings nothing of value. He is dead and not coming back (whereas Tidus does in the secret ending), Shinra got away with faking his death by making it a reality, and the only tangible thing anyone got out of it was Cloud getting a giant sword and an identity crisis. If Tidus had not disappeared by sparing Yu Yevon, Spira would have to continue banishing Sin until somebody else decided to nut up and take him out. If Zack had not died to the Shinra army, Gaia (the name of FFVII's planet) would be no worse off for it.
To put it more shortly, Tidus' sacrifice doesn't work because it's a clear cut case of "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" and most people out-of-universe don't like him. Zack's death captures the tragedy that Tidus' disappearance fails to because most people who play Crisis Core actually like him, and he ultimately got murdered for no good reason, with his death accomplishing nothing of value.
And I would argue that Crisis Core sacrifices gameplay to get its message across because of the sloppy way it handles the Last Stand mechanically. You CAN indefinitely stall because the DMW breaks are scripted to happen when Zack's health bottoms out. If you have Break HP Limit, 99,999 HP, the Genji Shield for permanent Barrier and M-Barrier and maxed VIT/SPR, then even on Hard Mode the helicopter's missiles are not strong enough to single-handedly cause a DMW break, meaning you can heal back to full health, meaning that you can keep at it as long as you want, meaning that you have to lean into the pitch to advance the scripts. The easiest way they could've absolved this would be to make the DMW breaks happen based on the total damage Zack has taken so that you CAN'T heal through it, and that even if you try your best, you WILL get worn down eventually, no matter how much HP you recover with your Curaga and Genji Helm's 0 MP Cost.
So, in short, Yu Yevon is like a crappy version of Crisis Core's Last Stand moreso than a crappy version of the end of The Wizard of Oz.
My lest fave 2 is the men-o-arms in dragon quest monsters joker because he attacks twice every turn & our teams isn't up to par for it yet sence it's on the castle island
my worst bosses
10: dark gaia hd sonic unleashed
9: giant spider oogie's revenge you fight it twice for no reason boring
8: orochi long boss fight you play it 3 times
7: dark bowser pathetically easy final boss
6: petey piranha fourth boss and if you beat him without pulling your hair out you will likely only survive by one bro of 4
5: ghetsis level 54 hydreigon
4: red megaman x7 snk levels of cheap
3: narmer etrian oddesy
2: vile final megaman x
1: heart of Hades kid icarus uprising
I hate Pyron Aurum...
But it's kind of hilarious he goes "RAWR" when he's killed.
I disagree Hideaki being the worst character personally. On his own yes he's lacklustre but his friendship with Tenkai was brilliant.
I love Tenkai's character development and it mostly happens because of Hideaki.
Personally I think penance as ff10's true final boss but I guess you don't like super bosses that much. Also was you thinking about quarter guy and wii dude's collab video when you was talking about the lowering difficulty?
Really? The Pyrhhon battle? It's EASY!
Don't get how that made your list over Hades' Heart, generally considered by almost everyone to be the worst boss in the game.
9. I had a feeling you were building up to him
8. That sounds HORRIBLE!!! Especially since you won't be able to properly play the game until you beat...-WAIT A MINUTE! How come YOU can have watermarks in your videos but I CAN'T?
7. That sounds EXTREMELY annoying
4. Only played the Wii-u version
The way I see it, watermarked footage should be a last resort, like if you can't find any better footage, and such was the case with this.
I don't like using footage with watermarks; in fact, I hate doing it. But sometimes, you don't really have any better options.
I like to think of Yu Yevon and the Aeons as the last exposition "hey you beat the final boss, heres some extra fight just to calm down from the high of Jecht. Enjoy!" ya know? Thats my thought process at least :P
I was actually one of those defenders of Yu Yevon's patheticness, but I immediately said afterward that it doesn't excuse how terrible the boss is. I like that kind of symbolism, but at the same time I agree with critics of Yu Yevon and Jasper Batt Jr. in that such a message should never come at the cost of game design and the player's enjoyment.
good grief, Zor looks like an ugly fusion of Zexion (Kingdom Hearts) and Siegfried von Shroeder (Yu-Gi-Oh).
Honestly, I never really had a hard time with with using an un-charged Z Saber on Aztec Falcon. Then again, I only did play on normal difficulty.
yeah I see your point about Yu Yevon, but im in the majority of people who believe it being pathetic was the whole point, it even possessed your Aeon's in a vain attempt to kill you before being forced to fight you directly, granted it would of been cool if it actually was a threat and followed the great Braska's Final Aeon.
I realy don't like secret of mana that much, i played when i was a kid and i remember having fun until i get to the first boss, then i played again last year, and the boss was still horrible, i mean, what's the pointo of making a action rpg when you can move around, with unavoidable attacks? If you can avoid it, then they should've make this game a turn base rpg instead
Nice list, couldn't agree more with how obnoxious or tedious these bosses are . Also i'm Glad you gave secret of mana a try. with my nostalgia glasses off the game has A LOT of faults as you've mentioned, but for the most part it was a solid game. Though someone once pointed out that there seems to be stuff missing from the games story. Hope it gets a remake one day, fixing all the game play issues as well as mending the story and what seems to be missing.
You forgot to mention that in the arkham fight you CAN NOT USE DEVIL TRIGGER in the second phase!
Will you look at that...The number 1 is a boss that i beated like 2 days ago with Akuma with my "Get fucked in a corner" trick
Thing if Zeena wasn’t there I would’ve raged
Wow wow wait, Zor, u still despise zeena though right, also what’s your top 7 of the bosses in the 3ds version
I remember commenting on one of your older videos about how poorly made they were. Now, you really improved and I take everything back. Great job!
great list but a fun thing to mention if you and the fiery joker were to have a bout with your favorite characters from his side dynasty warriors and your side sangoku basara, who would be your picks, since I got a good idea sima yi would be josh's choice
Why do I have the sudden urge to put Pluto's robot voice from SMTIV over Aruon Pyron's bossfight?
I have to admit, I kinda expected you to make a nod to the demon wall from one of your previous lists, as in hindsight they are kinda similar. A wall that moves closer and closer to you until it finally puts you in an unavoidable situation and kills you. I dunno
I was gonna say your point regarding the Zor fight was stupid since you being on a road trip was the real issue, but then it occurred to me.
That game is on a *handheld* , as in a system meant to be *taken on the go.* So yeah the developers should have considered the situations people might be in when playing that game.
I thought for sure that you would have mentioned the dumb one in skyward sword, but I guess it makes sense because what is so annoying is that it makes up the majority of the boss fights in the game. Nice that you still put it on the number screen.
Okay okay I get it, it's your opinion but Arkham's boss fight is in my opinion the best fight in the whole series. It's just that good to me. I love it.