Colorism is Not Getting Better
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Why are talking about colorism and not sexism? Oh, is because the list you showed had 37% of black males and females on the list and didn't fit your agenda?
I made playlist of melamined women artists. I had dig for them but I found so many from around the world.
Love this!!! By the way youre so right Dont ever debate trolls its useless and you will gain nothing from it. They are either being purposefully obtuse.. or woefully ignorant. Thank you For Harriet
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Let's also address the sad reality that "racial ambiguity" is simply a repackaging of whiteness. It's what the Kardashian's sell. It's what we're all buying. Instead of plain, whiteness now comes in 31 flavors.
TheZchristina97 😂😂31 flavors
Very well put.
LivingThe VeganLife There used to be unambiguous black musicians selling to white artists for most of the 20th century. And black males can be unambiguously black. This is all a recent (under 20 years) phenomenon. TLC was the highest selling female group of all time in America and the third highest selling in the world of all time and they were unambiguously black. Also the country is less white than it was in the past. Unambiguous black women were in entertainment from the 1950s-2000. Also music is a global phenomena, not just an american audience.
I don't buy it, at all but then again, I'm old (36) and I know better.
El Dominicano no she’s calling racially ambiguous people racially ambiguous. They may be black but on the first looks they could be Latina, mixed, south Asian, middle eastern, etc. they don’t have immediately recognizable black features
Someone on twitter said that "Racially ambiguous whisper singer should be it's own genre" at this point and I agree, lol. Looking back at the 90s and early 2000s I saw way more darker skinned men and and women on the screen and in music. Now half the time I see a black person on tv or in movies they're biracial. We keep being erased.
Thank god we can make our own content now 😌
Alex B. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Alex B. Being erased that breaks my heart
"racially ambiguous whisper singer" 😂😂😂😂😂
Haha y’all BLACK PEOPLE did that to y’all selves now deal with the issues
When u made the comparison between 1998’s hot songs and 2018 ones, it was pretty shocking seeing the vast decrease in representation for brown and dark skinned black women
I wasn't surprised - I watched it happen. That's how it goes when rappers and r'n'b groups decided that LSW and then racially ambiguous/non-black women are more 'commercially appealing' - I notice that talent and quality also nosedived - who are our legends of today? Who are the next Aretha's or Anita Baker's - who'll be honoured and remembered in times to come as one of the era's Greats? Very few people will have that kind of longevity. What I liked about the 90s was that EVERY shade of black women had shine - despite preferences that we know still exist. DSW just got more and more erased.
I was talking about the erasure of DSW, I know LSW have always had exposure. As for the second comment, who we see promoted in videos has an effect, of course it does, to say otherwise is just being willfully obtuse
But she just showed you the Hot 100 Billboard songs from 1998. R&B artists were all over mainstream pop radio. I remember those days very well.
This is a topic as a black man I've been speaking of for years since I was a little kid. Dark skin talented black female musicians like janelle monae, tank and the bondage, Kashdoll, cupcakke, jazmine Sullivan, Amara la negra, M.I.A., Rapsody, etc should of blown up the same way Ella Mai, Halsey and cardi b did. Every time I talk about it, I get called divise and drama in the black community when in reality I'm not. I'm concern what is this gonna effect on beautiful black girls into thinking that being beautiful is being light skin and racially ambiguous
Malcolm 1097 no lies detected!
If we're being honest, they should be blown up over Ella-Mai, and especially Cardi B.
*Tank and the bangas* excellent group there! Also, Ari Lennox, Shi Wisdom, King, Gwen Bunn. It's so sad...I support them however I can. I agree, we're not progressing whatsoever this is also why I will not support colorist artists, Lil Wayne, Sabrina Claudio, etc. too many talented people that need our support.
Princess nokia is also a good black reference? I think yes, but Im asking this just to be sure
Malcolm 1097 You cant divide something that is already divided sooo yeah...
This is one of the reasons why I stan SZA so much!! I LOVE her music it speaks to me deeply! BUT I also realize that she is like one of the few BROWN skinned females that are getting into mainstream music so I feel she should be protected at all cost!
KittieKat221* and she only got recognized because Chris Brown helped her get her more recognition.
So it seems it’s only when someone in the Industry who is black gives them the battery to really be popular
It must have something to do with the fetishisation of mixed race people and European features. The music industry, and particularly hip-hop are ruled by men. This is what happens when black men understand and want to fight against racism but don't think critically about messages they've internalised. Such as in order to make it and level up you must have close proximity to whiteness (by being with white women) or those who are racially ambiguous
Spot on!
Only after it was demanded by the ones who owns the company and the black men who stole their souls for money and fame, there is always a price to pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ash Dixson That's not true, even Q-tip, Nick cannon, 2 chains, etc have spoken out about it. They all have specifically asked to have darker skinned women in their videos. There's no more groups like Outkast requesting the Ki Toys or Jon B asking for black leads. It's gone, a wrap! The artists that do try and promote black beauty in all shades don't sell. I will not support Kevin Hart, Lil Wayne, Lil Boosie, Cryrese, Tank, T.I. and anyone else praising non blacks and racially ambiguous women above black women. Absolutely not!
Carla Denes True..
I have been concerned for a long time about how all the famous black women are light skinned or multicultural/multiracial and I’m not even black. As an Arab, I identify as a person of color yet on paper I’m “white”, when you look at me you know I’m not white because I’m so ethnically ambiguous.and because no one knows what middle eastern people look like, which is why I blame representation that only depicts as Muslims. So since I’m Christian I don’t wear a hijab so people get really suspicious or confused. I wish for a time wear we see true diversity with race, ethnicity, religions and body types in all forms of media.
Your beautiful. we love you, that's all that matters.
Drew I totally get what you’re saying. It’s so infuriating how people use the black experience for their own gains. Like those who welcome diversity in media and fashion are still using light skinned people because they fit the Eurocentric beauty standards. It’s unfair how there isn’t enough dark skinned women getting lead roles except when it’s a period piece. I’m just so glad Kim pointed it out because I thought I was the only one and it was annoying people when I pointed it out
Allie Era no many of us blacks know about it and speak about it but in America we blacks will always just be bled dry and pushed to the side, but thank you for not being black and acknowledging it too because it's rare that other will
megasexyhotbabe00 when I said that no one cares that I point it out I meant non-black people. I’m sorry, I should have clarified. Of course I’m going to speak up for all people, even if their struggles don’t affect me. As Kim says the revolution will be intersectional. Stay sexy!
What has happened to dark skinned women in media is happening to dark skinned men as we speak. In a decade our screens are going to be filled with their light skinned sons. They are are going to have the kid from Blackish' playing Kevin Heart in blackface.
Lacedra Minor 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I'm not worried. Unlike black women, black men will actually do something about it (other than complain). We will start our own media. The only risk is that this next generation of black men will be too broken (by feminism and matriarchy) to do what needs to be done.
Ash Dixson lol what are black men doing to change the "scary black thug" narrative that they get profiled for now? At the moment I see a growth of actual black women, especially dark skinned build their own platforms, but I haven't seen anything from black men except them trying to claim racial exclusivity as a "preference"
@@ashdixson1906 let's be serious... If it was meant to be done it would've been done already. The fact that black people spend time whining about Hollywood standards & have yet to crate their own shows they REALLY don't care...
You do have a point. Would Diana Ross, Patti Labelle, Gladys Knight, and Aretha Franklin have music careers if they were coming up today?
La Donna
Of course they would, they all possess jaw dropping talent!!
Shortmonee 312 I don't think that's the formula anymore
BelizeHunni
Sure it is, talent sells, sales make money. White folks who control the music industry are concerned about one color GREEN!!
La Donna hell no.
Shortmonee 312 and yet as you say that Cardi B, who doesn't even write her own songs, is topping the charts..... (No shade to the woman.)
I'm a 13 year old dark skinned girl and I love my skin color but it's hard being dark skinned. The boys have been so conditioned and taught by media that light skins are they way to go and dark skinned women don't really matter. I've been called so many names before and it's so sad. When people turn off the lights they be like "where she go?" and it's really sicking that children at young ages like mine are already being taught this, so imagine when all the 12,13,14,and ect get older, it's going to be a complete mess. We need to CHANGE THIS NOW, because it is only going to get worst is this is what is being put into the minds of our young men.
I am almost old enough to be your mother and I just wanted to say stay strong little sister. I honestly blame my generation and the generations older than me for not stopping this earlier. I hate to say this but black women have did a horrible job raising sons over the past 50 years and making little girls suffer because the boys weren't raised right.
Girl those ignoramuses are like peasants. Ima tell you like i tell my little sis. They are colorist, illiterate and lesser than. The type of ppl who you should stay away from. That is how you have to look at them. Usually they never become anything in life and wind up poor when they are adults. When you go to school walk with your head held high and don't even bother looking at those colorist boys and girls beneath you, b/c that's exactly where they will stay. Love your melanin; it protects you from the sun and gives you prolonged youth, something lighter people wish they had and was given to you as a gift from your creator. You might not see it now but if you stay focused you'll have a bright future ahead of you. Keep focusing on your studies and take care of yourself!
F our young men.....They are not the only males in this world...Dont waste your time trying to convince them of anything...Leave them behind...You should not waste a second of your time thinking about them...Enough of the pity party...Theres a whole world out there.
@@mariahholland2433 Exactly...enough of the pity party.
Young lady, I’m definitely old enough to be your mother and this is what I’ll tell you. It hurts seeing how people treat you because of something you had no control over. But you have to channel that energy in positive ways. Nothing wrong with being the “underdog”. Love yourself and your melanin even more fiercely. Use that pain you felt and let it push you forward in life. Get your education and do whatever it is you want to do. Don’t allow anyone to tell you no. You have the strength of your ancestors in you. You can’t lose.
And one more thing. Don’t allow any man or woman into your life as friends or relationship material if they have colorist views. They only seek to try to destroy your self esteem so they can feel better about themselves.
Black men promote and protect colorism under the guise of preference and Black women sat back and watched so we wouldn't look like haters lol . Young Black women have almost entirely been erased from the media but Black women still don't want to look like haters. 30 years of this behavior has done it's damage. Ironically, the J Cole's, Bruno Mars and Drake's and other non Black artists will take their place but they don't really care. Black women should start forming and creating their own production studios, talent agency's and guilds to promote our image. Everyone please stop waiting for Black men to pull their heads out their asses, it ain't gonna happen. Nor should Whites be expected to once again swoop in and save us from our problems when we have to the means to fix it ourselves. Black women we already have a ready and waiting audience eager for new stories and talent: it's us! So what are we waiting for. I'm sure this triggered a bunch of colorist in the comments section who have nothing of value to say, so I'm just letting you know I won't reply to nonsense lol
groolchick2 black men and black women both participate in propagating colorism in the black community. It is a community problem not a gender problem.
It' a Gender problem. Black men promote colorism and have no problem proclaiming their love for non-black women. Black women date out mostly due to the rejection of their own men.
Aliyah Williams a troll to who? You? I don't follow the crowd, I stand in my own truth regardless of who likes it or not.
Great comment, I agree
Excellent comment! Well said!!!
This happened because the black community loves inviting everybody to the BBQ. Black people cape hard as hell for other races, especially biracial people with black in them. Black people will argue that a half black half Arab woman is black when Arab people only claim full blooded people as their own. A half Korean and black girl is black to black people but mixed/half breed to koreans.
Black people complacently washed themselves out in the name of inclusivity. I also noticed that black men cape for mixed women but hate mixed men and definitely don't hesitate to disclaim biracial men as black. Soon, when rappers like lil pump, tekashi 69, and post malone become the new face of hip hop, then black men will be salty about not having full black representation in the media.
Jadasan Your comment is spot on. I wish more of our people knew and understood this. We cape for everyone but.....OURSELVES!
Drew you are right as well. At this point we are to blame for our non-visability in society because like you stated we as a collective have up our spot. So true. Count me in on the move to Jamaica! Lol 🤣🤣🤣
Jadasan I hate people who call mixed ppl black. Just because they have black in them doesn’t mean they’re black you can’t just ignore they’re other half too
Preach!
+Jadasan I would give you a million upvotes if I could. I particularly agree with other races being on code and only claiming those who are 100% like blooded. I also agree your prediction that Black Men will be erased from Hip-Hop/Rap. There's precedent for it- look at how we lost Rock n' Roll!
Thank you for talking about this topic. I've noticed this trend, too. This is why I'm rooting for Normani's next album.
You all really on here debating that Toni Braxton isn't dark skinned? What about the main point of the video people? Smh Some of y'all always want to find something wrong. Thank you for this video. I heard you and liked how you compared today's popular music for 9 year olds to popular music when you were 9 years old. Great points and proof shown. You really put time, effort, and research into your videos and I admire that. Can't wait for the next video!
THANK YOU for talking about this. I’ve been saying this for YEARS. YEAAAAARRRSSSS. It’s great to know I’m not the only one.
Something also to note is that younger dark skinned women who are getting shine and recognition right now are either 1) First generation/non-American: Issa Rae, Luvvie Ajayi, Yvonne Orji, Lupita Nyongo, the cast of Orange is the New Black, Cynthia Erivo, most of the women in Black Panther
and/or 2) Partnered with white men.
There’s something to be said for having distance from generational black Americanness while also portraying it.
LivingThe VeganLife that literally makes no sense especially since dark skin Africans are having the SAME exact conversation. Can you take your hate elsewhere? Like, to hell...and stay there.
Thank you tired of us black Americans being pushed out, everyone's agenda seems to be try and be us while cutting us out
That's whole other conversation.
When you include everyone under the black umbrella, colourism and black woman erasure is inevitable because systemic racism white supremacist patriarchy exists, the beauty hierarchy still privileges whiteness or anything close to that racist ideal of beauty.
Lacedra Minor this is it. Black men replaced black Women with mixed women in music and the mixed women will replace them with mixed men. Rap is shifting to non black Men I.e I like it cardi b and those guys
Including people of different shades under the Black American umbrella is fine because Black American culture was built by people of African descent but to different degrees. The problem arises when we treat this group like a monolith. We have different experiences and both our similarities and differences should be acknowledged. The entire collective should feel represented, not just one piece of the group. Also, black men are the faces of rap music but white men produce it and decide what images and artists are promoted or not. Black men don't have the power to replace black women with mixed women in the industry because they aren't the ones running the industry. People are only touching the surface of the issue when they mention light-skinned women and black men. Neither of these groups run American media. A lot of these so called Black music companies today are merely divisions of major white-owned, and often racist, companies.
Race, racism white supremacy and racial classification is not just an American thing, its a worldwide thing, but youre right about not wanting to black people to be deemed to be a monolith. Im sat in Nottingham in the UK ...this issues are a problem wherever we are on earth.
About Black patriarchy + Power: Its more nuanced than that...Black male artists do have some power to replace black women with mixed race women as they do have some say in who 'decorates' their vids, arms etc... many of them are happy to erase black women...and they did that back in the early 2000s, now they only tend to use racially ambiguous women/ asian women/white appearing women.
Black people dont run the music or entertainment industry but black men can be complicit in oppressing bw in a myriad of ways... let them be accountable.
You are absolutely right. Race, racism, white supremacy, and racial classification are not simply an American thing, and I understand that. It's just that since I had seen a number of comments like yours recently by Black Americans, and since your comment was under a video by a Black American, I made the misguided assumption that you were Black American too. When I made the comment, I thought I was reminding someone from my own culture of our history. If I knew you were from the U.K., I probably wouldn't have left that comment since the way black has been defined in the U.S. differs from how it has been defined in other places, resulting in a Black American community with a whole lot of genetic diversity and many different shades. In our community, someone of a darker hue doesn't really have the right to "kick out" someone of a lighter hue because black isn't merely a race here but an actual collective identity with a culture and a history attached to it. I understand that that isn't necessarily the case in other places.
And, yes, black men do have some say in what women our chosen as their love interests in their videos, but they don't necessarily have the final say, and that was really my point. If a black male artist wants a light-skinned video girl, but the company heads have a different girl in mind, those heads can overrule the artist's decision. On the flips side, company heads can also choose a lighter skinned girl against the artist's will. Yes, I am sure there are some black male artists that are complicit in the erasure of dark-skinned women, but I am also sure there are some black male artists who have non-black or light-skinned black women in their videos in part due to the fact that their company encourages it or wants to promote a particular look.
As far as the lack of dark-skinned black female artists in the music industry goes, that may have little to nothing to do with the views and/or preferences of black male artists. Black male artists aren't necessarily the ones discovering new talent. And even if they do discover an artist, those non-black company heads are the ones who decide whether to sign and promote that artist. They are the true gate keepers. The reason for the lack of black artists, at least in the U.S., is so much more complex than black men being self-hating or misogynistic. It has a lot to do with the lack of major black-owned music companies, run by majority black boards, that have an interest in the black community. In the U.S., we had major black-owned music companies run by black MEN. And not only did they promote black love interests in their videos--both light-skinned black women and dark-skinned black women--they also signed and promoted black female artists of darker hues. In the U.S. we not only are lacking in dark-skinned female singers but Black American singers period. This issue doesn't merely stem from self-hate but from a lack of black-owned and run music companies that care about the community and have the power to promote the images they want to see.
thehoneyeffect white women are better looking. Most men feel that way. Saying there is a white beauty standard is no different than saying whites succeed because of white privilege.
I feel like it started to go like this after that whole Tumblr snapback and chinos thing and Lil Wayne who was on top singing about "red bone" like 2008 times
It has been going like this for longer than that. I think the effect was starting to get stronger around the time you mentioned.
I watched a Tupac video called "I get around" not too long ago. That song is from the 90's. If you watch it you will see that the majority of the women in the video being shown as desirable were lighter-skinned.
The scene with a majority dark-skinned women had Tupac being chased around by dark-skinned women that were very overweight. One of the women had natural hair, too. The dark skin women were portrayed as undesirable and a joke in that scene.
Destiney Love Tupac was very colorist and misogynistic and perpetuated it toward darker black women only.. he reminded me of the “problack” man who slept light bright and damn near white but black ppl stay trying to put his ass on a pedestal like a black panther power to the ppl god 🙄
I believe it. He did date Madonna for a while.
Omg tumblr was the WORST! Nothing but lightskin mixed people all on the timeline for a while. And mixed babies
Ash Dixson stfu it’s black men just as much they’re the ones singing and rapping it
I definitely feel like there’s been a regression in the music arena.... I suspect it’s also because there are more white artists copying black style and taking those pop chart spaces. In the 90’s there were many fewer white artists taking on this music. They were listening and loving it, and that next generation of white vocalist came out with a style more like ours. I think reflexively it’s sort of turned the clock back to competing against white artists and more fair skinned and ambiguous women being promoted. Just something I suspect 🤷🏽♀️ im sure there are multiple causes.... even just the current politics being so regressive
If black women want more dark skinned black women on the charts, then you must start supporting those artists straight up. Black women have been Cardi B's biggest supporters since before she was a rapper. There are plenty of dark skinned black female artists to support and help become more visible in the mainstream, so it is time to begin actually supporting those women in place of just highlighting how many light-skinned female artists are popular because it is beginning to appear that you want less light-skinned women having popularity, not more dark-skinned women having popularity.
Support alone is not going to help a dark skinned artist achieve mainstream success. There are barriers set to prevent that from happening. Like the invisible glass ceiling holding women back from success.
The younger generation has accepted everything to be fake. hair, eyes, makeup and body shape. Don't believe me. Walk into a school in 1993 with a wig on or lashes...chile you will never do THAT again. These days, high schoolers are praised for their new lacefront, green contacts and 2 shades too light foundation w/ drag queen eyebrows. My daughters are some of the few who do not wear anything fake to high school and THEY are looked at strange. My girls are all shades and the lightest one wears locs down her back. You have to praise the children at home and stop allowing that mess to enter their heads because they want to fit in. But the parents have to follow those rules too. The 90's better represented and the 2000's stripped it all away with social media and instagram filters becoming the norm. When momma takes a selfie and adjust her shade before posting...we have a problem and we can't blame the media.
So true!!! Keep raising your girls the right way, it's for a good cause!
So true, as a substitute teacher I see this all the time. A lot of the black HS girls are wearing lace fronts. Then the Hispanic and white ones wear, long nails, pounds of make up and drawn eye brows and false eye lashes. It's really sad that they think they have to do all that in order to feel pretty at 14-18 years old. It wasn't like that back when i was in school. Then the HS black boys usually don't like the black girls b/c of the colorism and all the fake enhancements. Most of them have Biracial, latina and white girlfriends who wear their real hair but still wear tons of make up. Its all sickening to watch
@@mariahholland2433 Wow, that's really sad. What area do you teach?
This is like watching yourself get erased before your own eyes. Its pretty terrifying when you think about it
yep
I've been noticing this for years and I'm only 18. The dark skinned women artists have gone down tho there are still black women artists, there aren't dark skin like they are slowly knocking us down and bringing up light and mixed race artists. I also noticed that the more that happens the more light skinned and mixed race men go down in media and darker skinned men go up I'm media. Most media even characterise dark skinned black women as masculine and none feminine most of the time. I notice that also shows written by black men are also only showing light skinned and mixed race women, or non blacl as love interests in tv shows and movies and having dark skinned women be the angry girl in the background that's aggressive. Even a television show written by Donald Glover AKA Childish Gambino had a part in a movie where an dark skinned black woman was agressive and upset at a white woman for dating a black man.
The colorism is disgusting. And for some reason I notice done by a lot of black men.
You are very much correct. I am older than you by over 10 years and it was NOT nearly this bad in the 1990s. This has gotten WORSE in our lifetime. I honestly blame black people my age and older for allowing this. There were people calling this out in the early 2000s but they were basically gaslighted. I also believe black men in general have been far too over indulged
That's their agenda to keep Black women on the bottom.
My heart goes out the black children growing up nowadays. I had a cousin say to me not too long ago. “You got the good genes you don’t have nappy hair and not black black” no lie she’s 6/7? I was shocked! Being that she was a chocolate girl I definitely checked that, some people project insecurities even at a young age. She’s just going off of what she sees... that young! It’s crazy!
Someone taught her that. Find out who and keep them away from her
Everyone around het taught her that Facts
Her parents and family has to teach her self love and envelope her surroundings with beautiful Afrocentric images of dark skin black women and men. She should also limit any social media at this young age, and instead build up a positive image of blackness so when she is confronted with the Eurocentric ones then she will have the confidence and strength to challenge it
Toni Braxton is not dark skinned
Jo Dunk
Bro I hate when people refer to medium brown people as "brown" skinned as if all Black people aren't brown. The color brown come in literally over 1000 different shades...Lupita, Rih, Keke Palmer, Amara la Negra, Fantasia, Sza, Taraji P Henson etc are all a diversed pool of brown
And yes, Toni Braxton is a lighter shade of brown so she wouldn't be considered darkskinned, atlease not to Black people
Jo Dunk all black ppl are brown skinned... Toni Braxton is not dark skinned that is my point.
This is an unfiltered, UNRETOUCHED photo of Toni, she may not be dark as Lupita or Naomi but she is darker than the girls she was pointing out are popular today. People also need to realize that we dont come in 2 shades, its not just light and dark, it is a spectrum and Tonis color falls closer to the dark hue than she would a Ella Mai or Zendaya so you cannot classify her as light skinned. The key to light skinned is also being able to pass and or having eurocentric features and that is definitely not Toni www.imdb.com/name/nm0004772/
She's not light.
The only dark skinned woman I can think of off the top of my head are from the 90s and further back (besides Lupita)
I listen to Kashdoll, 3d natee, summerella, Remy ma, Teyana Taylor, la Porsha Renae, Ann Marie, SZA, H.E.R, Tiffany Evans, Janelle Monae, and Keke Palmer. Yes, colorism plays a part but if you look at who follow these women and hype them up its BLACK WOMEN. Black women will support these women before they actually support BLACK WOMEN that's the problem.
Not to be a pessimist or anything, but it seems like nothing is getting beter.
In the last month or so, I went from having innocent and joyful baby fever, and wanting chocolate babies to contemplating if it's fair to bring a dark skin boy into a world that wants to criminalize and kill him before he's even legal or a dark skin girl into a world that sexualizes her from infancy while simultaneously telling her she's ugly.
Right before watching this video, I spent 30 mins of my lazy Sunday hate scrolling through the tumblr blog of a black conservative. He hates the LGBT community, he thinks black women should get relaxers, and black people wouldn't get shot by cops of we just acted right.
Just yesterday I watched Seren's video where she read some sickening comments from Africans about AAs.
Non-black people always been antiblack. Now we got to worry about our "skin-folk" being antiblack too??
Colonization really did a number on us. Its mind boggling, really.
smh I just had to vent lol. Thanks for allowing me the space to do so 💜
Latino (latinx) is not a race. Being Black and Latino is not mutually exclusive. One can be both. Celia Cruz is an example of this.
You're right. I don't know any current dark skin black girls like that people are promoting.
All the people that popping in my head are rather established artists: Lauryn Hill, India Arie, meshell ndegeocello, Aries, Lira, Estelle, tweet... smh
I was just thinking about this... like, I remember when I was a kid there were so many examples of black female artists and actresses and shows that featured their voices and ideas... I remember growing up in the 90's and just having a lot of examples of black beauty... AND EVEN THROUGH ALL OF THAT I HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH MY BLACKNESS (fortunately I have an older dark skinned sister so even though I personally probably benefit from colorism I still got somewhat of a sneak peak into why it's harmful and alienating). Of course once the mid 2000's hit I noticed a dramatic shift... even the early 2000's felt like a giant shift for me so my weak foundation with this subject (I also grew up in a predominantly white area and experienced bullying from many of my black peers because of my... I'll just say identity and presentation so these aspects also played into issues I had) was tested and... honestly I feel like when I needed more representation as a black teen (especially as a member of the lgbt community) I had fewer examples than ever and that was honestly a struggle. But even during the peak of it when I was a child and had a lot more positive role models and examples than I feel kids have today... through all of those positive examples I STILL had a lot to overcome regarding internalized racism... because to be quite honest even throughout that era there was still an overtone of antiblackness in media and general society... so for children growing up TODAY with even less examples and more popularized incidents of hate crimes, violence, death, and terrorism I imagine they have so much more to overcome regarding race than I did as a child... and when I think about that I really kind of wonder if kids growing up today will be able to grow and love themselves the way people our ages did... I don't think they'll fair BETTER than us in as many ways as we'd hoped because colorism (along with other -isms) just feel... more extreme now... I just don't think that this specific era has enough for children to grow up feeling okay, especially if they're dark skinned black girls so friends and family unfortunately have to work to kind of... help heal and lead them in more positive directions, it's just a lot to unpack really...
Don’t forget in 1998 we also had Tamia, Lauryn Hill, Blaque, 702, Allure and he list goes on
And I think you are spot on. There was definitely a lot more brow and dark skin black woman representation on TV in the 90s and early 00s and if they were mixed there were more brown skinned like Mel B. I do think a lot of these women would struggle to get the come up now.
We need our own shttt!!!! So many of us believe that having a separate "reality" would deem us as being less than/inferior. But let's be REAL for a minute...We are verrry different from the caucasian...& other races for that matter!!! Our standards & expectations for ourselves is different, who & what we find attractive & tolerable may be slighty different...& you know what....IT'S TOTALLY OK TO BE DIFFERENT!!! We should stop all this assimilation shttt & just do/be us...on our own terms!!!!
YES!
Sza is Brown skinned. But colorism isn’t going anywhere sadly..I agree
98 was popping for music! As far as Krista Campbell, this is a clear example when the kids have more sense than the adults.
Its especially prevalent with Young black American women in Film. They are non existent or foreign. please discuss why casting directors continue to represent young black girls/women as biracial in film
Yes, colorism is getting worse. I think that social media plays a HUUGE part in that. I wholeheartedly agree with you on this video. And I love how you pointed out that the only actual dark skin representation that we are getting of women is not only the bare minimum amount, but also they are already older, like in their 40s, to 60s. Also the point about how the main young, black female social justice figures are all light skinned. Representation matters.
Black man here and I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said. And you especially brought it home when you showed us the Top 100 Charts from 1998 and the pics of the dark skin black women that were leading back then. Also the shows. Those shows were legendary. There will never be another period like the mid 90s to early 2000s as far as black media is concerned.
The music industry values being marketable over being talented. They value sexualisation over natural talent. They value trendiness over experimental or being original. That's just what I see right now.
thuglifeinc So true👏🏿👏🏿
Sza and Toni Braxton are not darkskin to me.. However, this is a very real issue Erica Campbell from Mary Mary husband was trying to get his sister a record deal. One of the A&R's said that they liked her music but she was too dark I was in shock like it's 2018 not 1960 😒.The main reason lighter skinned/racial ambiguous people get more visibility/success is because they are more palatable to different races. Also it gets them more success from the "mainstream" audience. Colorism will always play a factor in the music industry unfortunately which sucks cause there are so many dope talented bw like Sevyn Streeter and Normani. I'm pretty sure there is more but it's ashamed I can only come up with two on the top of my head smh..🙄
Shentel J. I need to find out who is spreading these LIES that brown or dark skinned women can't gain mainstream appeal. Whitney has 2 diamond albums on her resume. Lauryn Hill is the last black woman to win the AOTY Grammy. It can be done. Whoever is using this bullshadiddy excuse to not promote brown and dark skinned women has an ulterior motive...cuz that ain't it.
There were black women reaching the top of the charts from the 1960s-1990s. Unambiguous takeover has only been around since the 2000s.
Lies that darkskinned women are not appealing to other races...
Ryan Destiny from "Star" would be a good representation for your neice. She is beautiful, talented with a good head on her shoulders. The problem is she can't release music because Fox has her shooting year round and I think she's on contract. But there are references around but it sucks that they aren't mainstream and you barely hear about them. Justine Sky is kind of popular but not quite mainstream either.
I appreciate you so much for this video!!!
Janelle Monae an SZA are the MOST talented R&B artists of this decade. The MOST. In the 90s/early 2000s we had a lot more beautiful, dark-skinned artist (Lauryn, Fantasia, Missy Elliot, Mary J Blige the list goes on and on) that dominated the mainstream music culture. Not sure how to feel. Is society getting whiter or just progressively more brown than black OR white? It's a tough call. Your video is provocative.
''Is society getting whiter or just progressively more brown than black OR white?'' THIS was provocative, girl !!
The reason you cannot compare the 90s is because R&B and Hip Hop were not mainstreamed to white people. It was considered a taboo subculture that white people looked down upon or disassociated with. We had our own but now Hip Hop and “R&B” is gentrified to Pop and very geared towards the masses (white teens). Yes colorism is thriving but the music business is not geared or governed by black people. Colorism is the child of white supremacy and once white people control it these are the results. It is a new day and with streaming and the internet we the consumer choose who we put energy into. If you are looking for your music or artist via radio and tv it will be white washed. We should redirect our energy in supporting all the easily accessible talented black artist that are underrepresented.
Damn, the times have changed😮
We lost the little control we had over our music and other forms of media. We aren't in control of the images, sounds, lyrics, or artists that end up being promoted now. When we had more black owned companies we had far more artists being promoted and they were different shades, from different walks of life, had different sounds, and their lyrics addressed a variety of topics. If black people actually controlled our own media we could promote artists that reflect the diversity of the Black American community. As long as we don't own anything, we will continue to have these problems.
I understand your point. I was teen coming into the 90s and it was inspiring to see so many different complexions of black people being represented. However, me being fair skinned because I have a touch of albinism wasn't peaches and cream. I hear about dark skinned issues a lot, but albinos go through hell. From being mistreated and being embarrassed of from your own mother and family to your community giving you strong hatred. It's not enough to grow up with bad eyesight but we also I have to be called ugly, glow worm, razor face, etc. When you have to grow trying to prove your blackness and continue to be misuse and abandoned. I feel as a culture we need to do better for all complexions of black, not just limit it. It's an albino UA-camr that's in college doing natural hair videos. She just started and I had to support her and tell her to keep going because we need this. She is getting called bad names and everything else. People look at albinos as a race but it just means a lack of color which means we are still black. So yes we as blacks should do so much more, but first stop dividing lines within ourselves. If we support each other regardless of complexion we can do better. It took me a long time to accept my complexion and to love myself because I hated not being darker. I hated my mom not loving me because I didn't look like the rest of her kids. I hated for other blacks look at me in disgust. I grew up in the "darker the berry, the sweeter the juice"; "Pretty brown eyes" (my eyes are hazel grey) etc... I never seen a representative for myself. However, God gave me what I missed in others and showed me how special I am. So now that I'm in my 40s I embrace my uniqueness and don't care about whatever people say about me because it's about what I think about myself that matters. ❤️
You are so right! Not many black people consider what albinos go through! I'm also going to support that natural-hair-guru you mentioned! Thank you for your commentary
Normani is darker than Toni Braxton, though.
right. and I acknowledged that she's brown but I can't share the video with my nieces.
Kimberly, I love your commentary. The colorism in communities of color is brutal and I think that it really impacts women, in more salient ways than men. There are barely any WoC who are dark-skinned in movies or music, but there are plenty of dark-skinned men in music (who are likely dating white women and/or racially ambiguous women). I follow Chrissie on youtube; she calls herself a "colorism activist" and has a platform that showcases dark-skin Black women; her commentary on colorism is on-point. I don't always agree with her, in terms of what she says around feminism, but I very much value her perspective. I would be super interested in hearing an analysis from you about her colorism commentary . As a light-skinned Latina, I am represented everywhere in media, but for my nieces, who are of Browner complexion than I am, I worry about how colorism will impact them and how it has already impacted them.
We need black shows that are NOT stereotypical. That do not exploit our black women and portray our black men as hood, ghetto, inarticulate or ignorante. We need black shoes like the Cosby show with no cursing, that instills values and morals. Shows like Blackish Being Mary Jane and Empire are NOT good examples of that at all.
Colorism is actually part of the reason I am so nostalgic in my television and music preferences. But I hadn’t realized it for such a long time.
I want to watch all of the “Black” shows from “back in the day” because they represented women we hardly see on television anymore. I love our music from the 90s because it wasn’t out of the norm to hear women like
Lauryn Hill
Eryka
Braque
702
Missy Elliot
Debra Cox
Janet Jackson (more image than voice)
TLC
Xscape
SWV
Monica
Brandy...
Oh I could go on, but I have things to do.
Sad.
since when is toni braxton dark skinned?????
Dont be fooled by album covers and magazine retouching. Toni is definitely darker than what we are used to seeing. www.imdb.com/name/nm0004772/ She has a deep brown color, she would not be able to pass or get by on being light skinned if you compared her to a Zendaya. Now if you are comparing her to Lupita, you have a point. Toni is the same color as Regina King
Nah she's dark skinned. People get real confused by those hollywood lights and makeup
Caitlin Williams I think she means darker in terms of the color spectrum.
SHE IS NOT DARK SKINNED SHE IS BROWN SKINNED, SO SORRY NOT SORRY.
Not really that is your opinion, but with most people in the black community she would not be considered dark -skinned, because she is medium to light brown skinned. L.M.F.A.O.
As a mixed race person I've noticed that only light skinned blacks and mixed race woman get more fame in the music industry than dark skinned women.... Why can't we just look at each other for talent instead of a damn skintone? Humans can be so stupid sometimes... Having a light skin tone doesn't make you special, it doesn't define you as a person or your talent...
We can have personal preferences, but we should not be downgrading one another just because our skin it light or dark. And dark skinned women should stop complaining about how their oppressed to colorism and how light skinned women stole their spotlight. *Take the chance to steal your spotlight back and don't just stay silent!*
Dark skinned woman must continue making these colorism videos and spreading it around the world so that people will understand that they are the ones struggling with colorism more than anyone else, and black men are also the main ones that started this whole colorism thing.
The black community still needs a lot of work, and blacks must accept that no matter how light or dark you are your still black.
Biracial is the new black.
My nieces and I love RAY BLK (check out her song patience freestyle) - and also the rappers, Ivy Sole (check out the song everything to lose or life), little zims and Noname - I wish these four black women were more well known within our pop culture in the US and to our youth - but since I work with youth and well with my nieces I try to expose them to all these talented musicians that aren't recognized as much. - you made very valid points - representation in all platforms is necessary!
This was smart research, I never thought about that. I'm in the Toni Braxton generation and the list was bigger than the list you had for your generation. And in my mom's day bigger, so you are right!!! We are taking many steps back. Thanks for that this helps me understand the younger generation in my family. Again, wow!
Toni Braxton isnt dark skinned.
I think that you are referring to every woman of african descent who isnt Mixed Race to be dark skinned... and mixed race = light skinned.
As a black woman with 2 black parents, I dont feel represented by Mixed Race people .
same here!
i understand her point fully, I think that youre missing mine, Im just commenting on an inaccuracy that irked me... somewhat. I'll live though.
I think black women need to be careful not to contribute to their own erasure via misrepresentation ...however incremental.
“I’m not sure if she’s black, if I have to ask, she doesn’t qualify”
“Colorism isn’t getting any better by the way”
HahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAH
“Why aren’t Black women taking up the majority of the charts, a minuscule fraction of singers of half of 14% of the country should be taking up more than a moderately sized fraction of the charts”
Math’s a bit wonky there but whatever- it’s not like I’m the racist looking for songs made by people of a particular skin color xD
Eheroduelist Nah you are defo are racist. Ive seen you before. You are not that great of a troll either fool😂
That Girl why am I a racist? Quoting Black people is racist now?
Haha
Eheroduelist Not only are you racist but your comprehension level is trash too😂. Try to understand instead of just being a smart ass which you are not. But i have seen your comments on videos before. This wouldnt be your only dumb comment. So it makes sense.
A black person is visably black. VISABLY BLACK. and im sorry but a person with skin that is damn near white can never represent me.
I did this search for my daughter and was also incredibly disappointed.
Bro the fact that Kelela isn’t big yet, makes me feel some type of way. The song Frontline was featured on HBO’s Insecure and i just knew it was a hit. But apparently not.....
I love me some Normani, SZA and Janelle Monae but yeah the top charts are pretty beige or racially ambiguous overall in 2018 and probably beyond.
I have been waiting for someone to do this and I'm so glad that the someone is you. I am a 42 year old lighter skin Black American DOS. I have a 15 year old daughter and I recognized that she does not have role models that I had coming up. The music that she has to listen to is either sung by racially ambiguous women or white girls who sound black. It is definitely getting worse. Also, thank you for stating that racially women are being representing black women when they are not. They don't even show light skin black women anymore. They aren't showing hardly any black American women on TV or music. African women, that's another story as the media does represent of them more.
This was WELL done and thoroughly articulated. I loved how you broke it allllll the way down to the music charts with so many examples.
Girl...... preach ! I have 2 nephews and I try to do the same as a ds woman I don’t want my nephews who are talented athletically and also intelligent growing up despising women that look like myself and other family members and spreading black wealth with “others”.
Love your videos queen! I’ve met several people in the past few months and colorism always finds it way on the conversation list and it has people worried about the future of the black community. We need this dialogue and continue to push this narrative unruly enough of us is awakened and a solution will soon unfold.
@ For Harriet in The 90s you had large promotion of dark skin sistas representing. Music industry isn't about talent anymore. It's about who willing to sell their soul. Stop seeking validation from the main stream. We can do better.
I wish men would shut the fuck up about this "mainstream validation" line and realize that what happens in the mainstream directly correlates with what happens in our communities.
For Harriet Did I touch a nerve? No need to get on the defensive. This is a result of not having a black patriarchy. This is the type of promotion that will be marketed and as you can see it is not favorable towards dark skin sistas.
As always you are absolutely brilliant!!!
thank you
I’ve noticed this too. compared to the 90s dark skin celebrity women have faded to less. I had fewer references to give to my niece when she stated a few years ago that she wanted to be lighter and wanted to be mixed. It took a long time to convince her that she is beautiful with the complexion she has and she doesn’t have to be mixed to be considered pretty. I’ve experienced colourism growing up but it breaks my heart to see my nieces go through it the way that they are. My niece stated that the boys just want to be with the light skin mixed or Latina chicks. I know there are boys and men that like dark skin girls and ladies. I would love to see more representation of pretty dark skin celebrity young ladies. Then perhaps young ladies can see that and imagine themselves as beautiful. Representation does matter.
Hey I'm 18 and very confused about my color. I have never sided with a specific skin tone. Half my friends say I'm darkskin and the other half say I'm light skinned. Growing up color wasn't a concern of mine... but as I got older, I've realized the controversial aspects that come along with colorism. *why can't we just love each other*. It's crazy to see comments say that "light skin women are threatened" and "darkskin women are jealous and ugly" like wtf has this world come too. It's crazyyyyyyyy.
Even Beyonce's father admitted that if she was Kelly's complexion (specifically, "darker" he said) she would not be as popular. That's saying something ... even though everyone already knew that. LOL But, yeah, admission and honesty is always appreciated.
Thank you for this video! Representation matter.
I think the ways mixed race and multicultural black people are represented is odd and always elevates mixed race people who are light skinned. But mixed race people are also dark skinned and brown skinned. So that's more proof of Colorism. Plus, I'd really like to hear an analysis of Colorism in shows like grown-ish and misplaced (wondering, lonely) light skinned people in other media, like commercials and soap operas. [For example, all the commercials with a dark skinned mom, dad, and brother with light skinned little girls as the daughter. And The Bold & The Beautiful's light skinned characters, all young, all w/o any family present to claim them let alone dark skinned relatives. Plus grown-ish presents a college show void of dark skinned major characters. No campus is like this in real life! It's insanity.] Seriously, it's a bunch of light skin characters out there represented as without roots - unclaimed - and it's completely inaccurate. Like the clip from The Cambells, light and dark skin people "come from each other" and are in the same family. You can't separate them away from each other. To do so is a white supremacist dream and necessity for Colorism to continue. FYI, I'm light skinned and I notice!!!!
oh darn , I was hoping there would be possible solutions presented . .. I do still appreciate this perspective .
I really do not understand the obsession with light skin. Dark brown skin is so beautiful. It's glowing! Darkskin women are very blessed with their skin. We age beautifully. Lightskin women don't. Have you seen what Vanessa Williams and Whitley from a different world look like today? And also Hilary from the fresh prince?
They aged like white women.
Toni Braxton isn't dark skin...she actually has a darker sister, Towanda...
Love this video. Good topic to stir up!
Yes, colorism is getting worse! I’ve always felt the same way, and I’m glad this isn’t all in my head.
Like where are the todays Kelly Rowlands, the Jennifer Hudsons, the Brandy’s, the Lil Mama’s, the Lauryn Hils, the Whitney Houstons?
The only one I can think of is Sza, and she hasn’t relased new songs in a while. Some black people out here already saying she will be replaced by this ‘Boo’d up’ biracial singer from the Uk. Also, Sza did say she will quit music after her next album. Normani is our last hope but this white ass music industry will not allow her to shine. *We fucked.* 🙃
Bm tend to push away the problem of colorism but aren't even realizing that their erasure in the media is slowly taking place. The only top darksin male performers nowadays that I can easily think of are migos, kendrick Lamar, and 21 Savage. Lighterskinned male performers are the ones who tend to make the charts and are more known . Lil pump, Post Malone, Chris Brown, Bruno Mars, Drake, Logic, etc.
Also, a lot of biracials/light females didn't want to play in black panther because they didn't want to be bald headed warriors. Darksin women are often times depicted as masculine in the media, while lighter skinned women are depicted as feminine. So therefore lightskinned women weren't running to play in Black Panther. A good example is Amandla Stenberg who claimed to have stepped down from the role in order to give it to a darker girl. However, she didn't step down from the role of Starr in the movie "the hate u give" who was supposed to be a dark brown girl. Of course Amandla would want to play Starr who is not a bald headed warrior and is the main love interest. This just proves her hypocrisy, and how she doesn't care about darker skinned women.
Nina Simone who was played by Zoe Saldana is another perfect example of colorism. They black faced Zoe Saldana and gave her a prosthetic nose, when they could have easily found a darkskin woman to play her.
Even Amara La Negra, as beautiful as she is talked about colorism and how it's affecting her in the music industry. Wale also spoke about colorism in the music industry and how if he were lighter he would be more successful. Other celebrities have spoken about this issue.
Since colorism isn't an issue, I wonder how black men would feel if they took a historical black character such as MLK, or Nat Turner and let a racially ambiguous man play them in a movie.🤔
We were blessed being 90’s/00’s kids and teenagers... we got to see the last of the good and the beginning of the ugly.
I'm sorry but What were you expecting looking at Mainstream charts controlled by ytes? You should look up music from black artists from other countries. Melanin by Sauti Sol and Tiwa Savage songs. American mainstream music has been explicitly colorist for decades so be sure to expand to other nations too. You'd be surprised.
please cancel Ella Mai and Queen Naija. the former didnt have a single brown/dark skin woman but plenty of dark skin men and the latter is vile
I'm sixteen and I hope it improves soon. I've got big dreams to be a musician and an artist and it's like troubling. Sometimes I worry that if I ever half made it my skin would be too dark and hold me back. Hopefully there's a break through soon
Now you telling ur age I'm in from the 80s era and I saw the healthy dark skinned black women and I understand ur worry for the little sisters coming up now so it's up to you to show them the healthy way we came up, sometimes u can get the babies to listen to old school stuff they may even listen when they're by themselves.Keep up the good fight Kim ur work our work will show approved.✊🏿💚💛🧡
And Toni ain’t even THAT dark. Any of these light skinned women could get her color in a week out the Bahamas 🤷🏾♀️
When I was called racially ambiguous years ago, it was like a slap in the face. I was offended and upset that I could be seen as anything but black. I took a step back, took a look around me and did an evaluation of my life experiences/relationships. Have to admit being confused at first because the person who called me that was the same skin tone. She broke it down to me about my hair texture and my facial features/ body type along with my skin tone is viewed as racially ambiguous. It is what it is. I now know how many in the wotld see me. People may think I'm mixed with many things but all four of my grand parents were black in varing degrees og colors and dominate genes prevailed to make me. The world can be unsure or uncertain about what they think I am but I'm not. I am a black American woman (and not always in that order). My daughter who is dark skin with curly hair she also get the "2nd look" or double take when being examined for race identity. It sucks but its the current reality. Sorry for going off on a separate discussion, just had to get it out. The music today doesn't inspire me at all so I still play Missey, Lauren, SWV, Total, Escape and so on.
It’s amazing that with the growth of the interwebs and social media, the growth of glorification of racial ambiguity blew up. It’s almost like the 90’s/early 2000’s Black is Beautiful folks were content, MERELY content, with appreciation for all that melanin. Now, as the movement continues, the love thyself thinking has landed on shifty, shaky ground.
What about Kelela , Sudan Archives & Nao ? . I bet there is a ton of great dark skinned singers in Spotify.
I was very explicit about the fact that I was looking for women who are popular in the mainstream.
They’re not popping on the charts
For Harriet ,
Oh sorry I didn't catch that.
I understand the argument that dark skinned females are not part of the target audience and by that there isn't so many such singers in the mainstream culture. So some dark skinned girls have a relating issues.
Thus , I find it much more likeable to listen to non mainstream artists as well so that my music taste remains impartial to non musical elements such as popularity .
Dang. Black artists (particularly women) *DOMINATED* the hot 100 during my childhood.
Agreed sis. I get concerned about my niece and how she views herself in the world. We were so fortunate to be brought up in the 90's era. We need to take it back to that diversity of Blackness.
So insightful Sista!
I love the fact you like to share pop culture-oriented products with your niece. It's very important that artist may be able to release positive products relevant enough to transcend generations and inspire people.
I grew up watching reruns of black 90's shows in 2000s. However, I did notice in early 2000s white blonde women were in the thing and then it moved to just mix chicks now lol.
HER is really great Kim. She has some fun songs your nieces could bop to. And she's not ambiguous.
Blackish is the only thing we have on TV these days and they made the youngest, darkest character evil. It turned me off from the show.
You have made some really good points here with good social proof, wish you did this with the interracial vid
I have a suggestion. We should all know local dark skinned young women in the music industry who are not getting the shine they should. Let’s drop their Instagram in the comments. Check out SuperCoolWicked she’s a young dark skinned kickass young woman.
In my opinion, young black girls aren't really lisening to the mainstream music. There are plenty of darkskin female artists but they're less mainstream.
SZA (but she's mainstream) Rico Nasty (ok not really fitting for children and kind of racially ambiguous but she stays repping her blackness and black women in her music so I appreciate), Lizzo, Kelala, Lady Leshurr just to name a few of my current favorites and there are more choices the more you branch away from western and anglophone enviornments. It's true that dark skinned women aren't represented in the mainstream but I'm not sure it really matters anymore because we live in a digital age where we have almost 100% control over the media we consume and personally the media I consume is black female dominated. I'm not worried about the mainstream or stressing myself out about it, I'm focused on finding and pushing black creators putting out their work on more niche, digital platforms.
the 90s man :(
I have realized that there are just so many black music artists and bands that are very musical and talented, but just don't rank in popularity. Also, so, so, so many amazing black artists and bands from previous decades, who were iconic, now are barely known. I would have thought Estelle would be extremely popular by now. Just for one example.
The lack of representation is sad! I worked as a Child Protective Specialist for over a year and a half so I've been in many homes and spoke to many children. Young black girls (under 11), including my niece, stan Jojo Siwa.