The Plane Built for Hitler to Escape? - BV 238
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2021
- Perhaps the most remarkable achievement of the Blohm & Voss Company was its celebrated BV 238 flying transport floatplane, which stood out among war machinery of its time due to its sheer size. The BV 238 was the largest aircraft ever built by the Axis powers during World War II and also the heaviest up to 1944.
The development of the aircraft began in the middle of the war, but it was only completed in its last days. The enormous ship was more than capable of crossing the Atlantic and even reaching South America.
Concerned that Adolf Hitler or other high-ranking Nazi officials could flee the country before being captured, the Allied leaders set out to destroy any last resort that could help the enemy...
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"build a scale model"
"It didn't work"
"Eh whatever, go to full size."
THAT'S THE SPIRIT!
In 1/144 scale?
Most scheduled diversions just need to blow up well.
I want one !!!
@@oceanhome2023 Scale model or full size?
Famed Royal Navy test pilot, Eric 'Winkle' Brown was tasked with getting the only airworthy example to Britain for evaluation at the end of the war. It was a notoriously difficult plane to fly, so Captain Brown was in the cockpit with an experienced German co-pilot, and flight engineer who controlled the elevators, who Brown felt was a bit 'off'. The plane was on a fjord, just long enough for it to take off from. It became obvious to Brown as they thundered down the fjord, that the engineer had no intention of letting the aircraft go to Britain, and Brown had to have him removed from his station to release the elevators. Both Germans became a bit 'fighty' after this, and Brown taxied back to the start point, and put them off, replacing them with some RAF techs. and this time, took off successfully - the Germans had intended the plane to be wrecked on the rocks at the edge of the fjord.
That was a BV 222, there were no surviving BV 238's by the end of WW2
@@mistlight3168 - thank you, I wasn't sure, but did know there was only one 238 in existence. Whatever mark it was, Brown nearly died getting the flying boat back.
I chatted with Eric Brown in 2001. He mentioned flying the the Blohm & Voss 222. Also a six engine flying boat. He described it as being the largest “operational” flying boat in the world and dangerously light in the controls. If he had flown a B & V 228, he would have mentioned it.
The aircraft were very similar, with the Bv-238 being essentially a larger 222, so I can understand how they made the mistake
@@davidgifford8112 - You're a lucky bloke. Captain Brown was a long time hero of mine, and I never got the chance to meet him.
It had to be built so large so that Goring could fit.
More like so their balls could. Thumbing your nose at the international bankers isnt for the weak.
Gold is heavy.
According to Wikileaks (the only international news agency to never having been proved to have made a reporting mistake [at least yet]) and several books, Hitler escaped to Argentina by sub which he got into in the Mediterranean. He lived there for decades pretending to be an art dealer, I’d say one of these flying boats could easily hold a big percentage of the expensive art stolen by the third Reich….
He was a fat SOB
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ "stolen"
The real reason this plane was built is so you could grind Silver Lions in War Thunder.....
that's the Ju 288zc
Its not as useful as it was before though but man i loved using this thing back in the day
That would be the G-91/R4 with AGMs or ATAGs.
I use my g91 but om low level I use this beast then I cry for my gunners in the wings but God bless the bastard who comes at me I also get a few air kills even if I do go down
Thanks Gaijin, for making the grind so grindy
I swear, I think they've figured out half their viewers are War Thunder players
Yourself included it seems
So it seems, yes
I’m playing warthunder while waching this🤣
I'd like that 6 * 2400kg bomb loadout :o
I bet they have
I knew Ben Drew personally. The first time we met, I asked how a WW2 Fighter pilot got an "Air Force Cross" since the fighter pilots at the time received Army medals, the equivalent being the Army's "Distinguished Service Cross"! He explained this story and wasn't awarded the medal until 1983 when it was realized the 2 ME262 jets he shot down in the same mission went unrecognized! I have several items from him on display in my home
Could I ask what those items are? Your comment was very interesting I must add.
@@ferrete8967 I have several commissioned prints that feature him, the Detroit Miss and several of his missions. He signed them for me personally
I met him at an airshow in San Diego.
Awesome. It's honestly rare these days to learn about something new to me. Most military finds from the 40s I've already heard about. Thank you dark skies.
Yeah I didn't know about this. I that most high ranking definitely escaped to south America but I didn't know they tried this massive ship.
The only reason I knew about this was war thunder lol
float plane? that is a flying boat! there’s a world of difference.
No it's a floating plane
They called them"Flying Boats" but it's still a plane
They're actually called amphibious aircraft.
I’ve always understood that if the main body/fuselage/hull sits in the water it’s a flying boat, if the plane body sits out of the water on floats/pontoons then it’s a seaplane/floatplane. That would make this a flying boat. My understanding is “amphibious aircraft” only applies to ones like the PBY Catalina that can land in water but have retractable wheels that let them come up onto land (Catalina can also land on land). Happy to be corrected by the UA-cam brains trust.
Anal are we? Who gives a rats ass. If ya take off the wings it ain't going to be it to be much of a boat ( capsize and sink)and if the fuselage was damaged such that it couldn't float it still be a functional aircraft... As long as it was taking off from dry land.
Although I served in the U.S. NAVY I am no military expert, but from watching a few Dark Skies videos and a few PBS documentaries I get the idea that (at least during the 30s-40s) the designers of Germany's many war machines ALWAYS though that " big is good, but ridiculously HUGE is even better ".
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Powered by a SINGLE MW engine?? Now that , I' d like to see!
A 100+ton float plane with a single engine? Wow!
4:15 he specially says 6 engines
@@CoffeeConsumer643 specially? At 5:03 he specially says something too.
I think it was supposed to be " Single Row " MW Engines . Just a guess .
I also would like to see the Engine that could Drag that BEHEMOTH as a Single Engine !
The first model proposed had 6 engines, while the second never-made model had one.
Too bad. This aircraft would have been the crown jewel in any aircraft museum.
Yeah, it would be cool. I can totally see that, since I live near the museum with the H-4 Hercules in it (Spruce Goose). Too bad it was destroyed
Blohm and Voss also built U-boats, and after WW2 actually built washing machines.
B&V constructed the Bismarck, too.
And postwar, Messerschmitt built microcars. But B&V went back to building ships.
@@arshdeepsinghmalhi4554 - Try adding punctuation or was that just one convoluted sentence?
@@scootergeorge9576 Arshdeep Singh
@@Привид_Бандери Aussie English? ; )
What amazes me is this is the first I've ever heard of it.
Same
you never heard of it in war thunder?
@@papyfun5097 I guess he didnt play the game.
but thats fine you should try the game tho its a good game but takes a lot for grinding.
There is a lot lot about World War 2 you never heard of
Wow, I never knew there was footage of this beast flying.
Others: Build it and they'll come.
Germans: Build it and we'll find the use of it later.
Germans don't think like that. Is more of a case of "If it can be done then it should be done". Ie if its possible then it should be done.
i mean the germans were right
built it and find a use for it later
and now, it is one of the toughfest plane in war thunder
The speaking is INCOMPARABLY better than it used to be! THANKS! :-)
Must have been an interesting job, going through a metallic tunnel & fettling engines in flight !
I imagine you wouldn't be able to hear much for a few days/weeks afterwards !
You could do the same in the Hughes H-4 flying boat (Spruce Goose), as the wing was thick enough to walk upright inside.
@@mrb.5610 Yes, Don't think I have ever seen military personnel with ear defenders in any WWII footage!
@@dandare2586 Dad was a wireless operator on Liberators in RAF Coastal Command ... the longest flight in his log book was 16 hours - i imagine his ears buzzed a bit after that as well .... !
The WW1 guys had to walk out on the wings to add oil and service the engine's.. They also would get hot water out of then to make tea for the crew. Yum yum on those cold flights..lol
I grew up watching wings of the Luftwaffe! Great memories, the Blohm and Voss 238 was a cool airplane!
I have the episode about German Flying Boats on tape.
You are all amazing people and very interesting to see all of the amazing rare footage on this absolute fantastic channel with an excellent voice narrator you guys are killing it want an amazing storage of knowledge and it's amazing that it is being preserve for the passage of time.
I worked for Ben Drew back in the 70's and can remember him telling me about the encounter.
That 1/4 scale they built is awesome. Like to find out more about it.
Ah yes the flying aircraft carrier
No. A bird the size of a battleship . lol
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@@ethics3 I think he’s saying that bc in war thunder people land on it in planes mid flight lol
@@elliotsmith102 Whooosh
Even with a link
@@elliotsmith102 dude I love doing that
@@ethics3 I watched the link, I didn’t get the joke at first bc I didn’t want to spend an hour watching an old movie, now I do. R/woosh is probably the most boring subreddit there is anyways.
It's amazing how much footage of the prototype survived the war.
I don't think I've ever not heard decent, appropriate music for your videos - another gold star 👍🍻
I like to listen to these at half speed so I can pretend a very knowledgeable drunk is telling me detailed stories from history.
I watch them at 1.25 speed so I can get though the videos in 80% of the time. More time to watch other videos.
@@TrenchcoatSteve excellent idea
I tried this, spot on
I swear I was looking for this comment haha At least, his speech isn't terribly slow at normal playback
This was hilarious to do 🤣 It totally sounds like someone smashed and telling a detailed history
Love this series Dark Sky's
Dark
Suoer cool video about a super cool aircraft. Thanks for the info and great narration.
As usual, great & intrepid information! Thanks!
Love this channel. Thanks for creating it!! I have missed Discovery Wings since it was cancelled years ago to make way for more and more reality TV. As soon as I found this channel, I binged watched all back episodes, and look forward to your next upload. Could you please do an episode on the P47 Thunderbolt of WW2 at some point? Thank you.
So would it be safe to say that this was the Spruce Goose's Geman cousin, Fichte Gans? :)
It would be "Fichtengans", but not bad at all!
Spruce Goose was underpowered and barely capable of lifting off.
maybe the Gooses Mother, caus THIS one could fly ! ;-)
Exactly my thoughts !
I was thinking the same thing
Nicely designed video. Like the slower narrative. Good improvement
great little informative video not too long or boring, perfect thanks
My friend Maj. Urban Ben Drew destroyed the last of these giants on Lake Schaal in N. Germany in his P-51 D the day after he shot down his first of 3 Me-262 Jet fighters. He remarked that after strafing it 3 times he returned to base. He saw it the next day and the villagers were out on the Lake salvaging wood from the wrecked plane to fix their roofs and to build chicken coops!
It was constructed of all-metal, so that scuppers that story. More American BS.
@@nomdeplume2117 No it isn't. And America is by far the best country on earth :)
He shot down 3 Me262's , why I never heard of him ? What an ace pilot , or only a american story ?
@@5co756 two in a single engagement! His achievements were classified and although witnessed, and the Luftwaffe verifying the kills later, he was awarded the Air Force Cross years later. We spent years discussing his time over Germany and his duels with the Jets, and since I lived in Germany, I was able to walk the former Airfield in Achmer where he got the two kills and send him modern photos of the field, the landscape. He's gone now. The greatest generation are now almost all gone. I'm fortunate to have a glossy signed 8x10 of him in his Mustang holding up two fingers for the dual Jet kills and the three kill flags on his Mustang "Katzenjammer IV"
@@nomdeplume2117 Negative. Over 1/3 wood to include almost the entire frame and interior.
If it would have been put into production, the BV 238 would have been the largest aircraft that ever saw service during the war. Still, it proved to be an impressive engineering achievement, and it never transported fleeing German officials.
Or did it?
Hey Vsauce, Michael here.
is like they were wasting tons of other people money in the most gigantic project possible..... its like they never lost.... ahhh folow the money..... how they had so much money..... german money had no value and their economy was in the toilet....
Great Job! Thanks for posting!
Really fascinating I did not know of it till now , thank you .
What an amazing aircraft, it’s just such a pity it was destroyed and not actually put into production and used for the better good 👍👍
The deal was central banksters promised the complete distruction of all German manufacturing for the creation of Israel
А " благо", это, что в вашем понимании?😁
Dark skies’ grandson is gonna take care of this channel and make a video called “Fat Amy: the F-35 Lightning II”
Your content is great man. All your channels. Fyi the timmy comments are compliments
Amen, first I've heard of it. Thought the Sproose goose had the honors. Thanks.
Like a lot of Germany's wunderwaffen, the BV was an amazing piece of equipment that came about too little, to late.
Germany was superior in aircraft engineering in more ways than just war planes. The wind tunnel ingenuity brought us to understanding air turbulence to greater levels for commercial planes even
Indeed they only had a full mobilisation in 1942 they had been decieved by their blitzkrieg success in 1940. Also they were on that basis hopefull for a short war or a stalemate with Britain and limited hardship but attack Soviet Union in 1941 put paid to that . They didn't want to upset their social contract in the beginning by full war economy as they had bad memories of ww1
A version with a single engine??? Wow that would have to have been a monsterous engine
Could you imagine the size
Video game guys are both a curse and a blessing to history and the making of video like this...
Without them there wouldn't be as much support.
an excellent video. Made well in every sence.
First came the 'Spruce Goose' and then the much improved 'Fir Fuhrer' lol..
whats next? the "pine putin"?
Didn't realize they were still a company. They sure built some strange aircraft, (BV-141).
Just looked it up. That thing is based and redpilled as heck. Love it.
great video thank you.......
I'm so glad u made the video I was looking forward to this after I recommended u make this ill keep throwing suggestions ur way to help the channel I love ur content so much I benge watch ur videos every night while I'm at work ur channels are truly the best things ever
Man, I love flying boats.
So this is how my Great Grandfather escaped Germany to Argentina
Thank you for the video.
I remember 'Winkle" Brown was tasked with flying one back to the UK after the war. You can fly it? Six engines, but the only flying boat I've flown is a Walrus(Single engine biplane). He did it. Probably one of the best test pilots ever.
OOPS. It was a BV 222. Piere Closterman's Tempest Wing destroyed the BV238.
This thing could just have been used as flying anti aircraft batery
or a German AC-130
Well that just sounds like a fighter with extra steps
great video, bit of a struggle listening to the narration style!
love your video's , I'm a fan !
Kinda crazy how much more organized and productive people were without smartphones.
And its crazy to think when technology got better we were able to make afterburners, missles, medicap equipment, and robots that make life easier and faster thab without them
@@hpep9159 yeah man. I've been studying Nazi technology and dude. They were more advanced than we are today. They had video conferencing and all sorts of stuff that we only just started using today. They didn't have microchips you know. But the level of technology they had gave them access to things beyond what they are today. As crazy as it sounds Nazis were over 100 years ahead of everyone else. It's a bad measure, not really a good way to analyze or present things but it's not far off. Apparently one of the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima or Nagasaki was actually Nazi made.
That thing is like the blue whale of ww2 aircraft designs
That’s a very good description ☺️😉
Or a Spruce Goose.
@@nemojedermann2845 or a Spruce Goose Whale 🐳
This plane looks like Howard Hughes Spruce Goose. The difference is the German plane actually flew more than a few feet above the water.
Hercules
Well they both look like flying boats. This looks way more like the Mars though so seems every plane looks the same to you.
Hughes wasn't even supposed to do that, he only had clearance from the FAA to do taxi tests that day but he wanted to show the world that it would indeed fly after being attacked by Senator Brewster accusing him of building a plane that wouldn't fly and ripping off the American people by being a war profiteer, he knew Brewster had so much influence that there was a chance that he'd never have gotten clearance from the FAA to fly it and he wanted to prove to the world that he didn't build a plane incapable of flight.
If I won the lottery I'd buy the Spruce Goose and make it fly.
The difference is that the H-4 Hercules is a LOT bigger. 1/3rd bigger in both length and wingspan in fact.
Good Video/Info.
Great vid...
The germans had some outstanding engineers 👌
Really?
@shoah drinklestein Really?
@shoah drinklestein Has it not occurred to you that I know all about what you are saying?
Please Google "irony"
@shoah drinklestein Yes, that has occurred to me. Your point is...?
@shoah drinklestein Oh my, you are so clever. Run out of ideas and thoughts, did you, eh?
Didn't take very long, did it.
"Capable of even reaching South America"
Hmmmmm
great video
The metal version of the "Spruce Goose"
Blohm und Voss is pretty much directly descended from the Dutch East India Trading Company... its basically the same company. We build space ships now.
I can't get past the 'BB-8" that I keep hearing, regardless of it's actual name :P
Yeah... That's 'Gatling-Gob' - the narrator. He's both blind and clearly addicted to amphetamines.
@@Deebz270 lmao
@@Deebz270 lol@Gatling Gob ... you must be UK, my wife is Welsh and she says "gob" 😄
I generally really like your videos. One important suggestion: Make the music work for you. One important way to do that is to *not* read the transitional titles. In past videos when you did not read aloud the transition titles, the music and overall ambience was greatly improved.
You make videos instead of shitting on others who are.
@@acemccool calm down. He’s just giving an idea.
There is an impact to reading the title. It works for some videos.
@@acemccool So consumers shouldn't criticize anything unless they can make it themselves?
Great video.
I would LOVE to see a Dark Skies about Aerfer Sagitario 2
"But over a century later" WWII was about 80 years ago...
hmmmmmmm
@@AverageAlien Hahah! Just bustin' on you...
They were referring to the company that was founded in 1870’s
@@MyUAVisbetter You're almost certainly right but that's not how it came across....
@@MyUAVisbetter NO! It is phrased specifically - since the end of the war, as the 'quote' below...
"after the war ended it was believed that
blumen vos [sic] was finished
but over a century later the company
continues operations"...
An upper deck behind the cockpit would be grounds for immediate dismissal.
These are the people that thought putting a battleship turret on a tracked vehicle was a sensible idea.
You made me laugh. Thank you.
If a ship builder were to design and construct an aircraft, this is exactly what I would have expected. By the way, the huge Hughes "Spruce Goose" began as a joint project of aircraft designer Howard Hughes and ship builder Henry J Kaiser.
Interesting, would be a great idea for a Film!!!
I met the Mustang pilot who flew the mission to destroy the plane.He was so full of himself you couldn't talk to him."I'm here for the money and all people want is stories" he said at an IPMS show.
Sounds like the opposite. Like a man that would have rather you left him the fuck alone.
@@42pyroboy
Then why did he present himself to the public as the man who shot it down at an IPMS show?
Maybe he's just proof that you should never meet your heroes in life because they'll just wind up letting you down.
If he's not an actor, he seems like an asshole to me.
@@42pyroboy Most would.
@@dukecraig2402 This one did.He had vacuform model kits of the plane on the table and his flight goggles.Monogram Models made a kit of his airplane."Detroit Miss" was its nickname.Iy had a yellow nose with a red flash and white letter for the wtiting.It was him.I went home and found him on the internet.
That big ass plane was a cover for him sailing to Argentina
Check out what Forum Borealis and The Dark Journalist has uncovered on this topic.
U Boats don't sail lol.
Antarctica, no? With all the flying saucers.
I’m so glad he slow
Slowed down with his talking it makes the video so much better
Blohm & Voss certainly did specialise in aircraft oddities ...
My fav would be the BV-138
If you're using this in War Thunder, you just accepted yourself to getting rammed by trollers
Well if you really need to kill an bv 238 you have to have more than 6 12.mm machine guns or rockets if you dont you will be severely damaged before killing it Then ramming it is the best thing you can do
@@Feuervix or you get real smart and precise with big cannons and go for specific areas
@@blinimationstudios1717 you had to go headon wit it at 1 km if you get closer than that any experienced bv 238 player gonna hit you
@@blinimationstudios1717 even going in strange angles dont work Very well
@@Feuervix As a German main I laugh at people trying to take out friendly 238s. My Do-335 B-2 could make short work of it.
These things are always super hard to kill in war thunder, you have to so careful of its gunner.
just send a rocket and you get some nice 11k silver lions
@@rodod1917 Sadly, I can't aim them :(
@@frankzhang1246 dont fly at them in a any straight line. you want to come in as fast as you can in sweeping arch's
@@youthere7327 I generally wait till I'm above them and dive on them from the front, but it takes forever to get to that position, and by the time your done, either your whole team is dead or that the whole enemy team is dead. I generally just ignore them and let other people do kill it.
you can one tap it with the 37mm of a p-39 or a p-63
Man I love this channel! What Quality content.
I wish this thing had survived such a cool aircraft so many cool designs lost to history the FW 200 Condor is another example probably one of my favorite aircraft of all time but alas none have survived ☹️
I figured those would have ended up.being their heavy bombers out at sea.
My first thought, I'm sure the BV238 could easily slip through the allied air defenses. (Sarcasm implied).
Never see it coming
I'd like to see a more detailed comparison with the other flying boats you rushed by, especially the Hughes H4.
We live in just such a time. Outrageous leaders doing ever crazier things, with no concern for the consequences.
Like our current administration
Like trillions of dollars of deficit spending eh
They aren’t leaders,what you see are puppets.the actual so called leaders,are unknown to the public.this why we live in the most desperate and dangerous age ever.
He instead took a Sub to Antarctica and took off on a Rocket to the moon base on the dark side of the moon 🌝
Maybe I can still get his autograph. That gives me inspiration to rebuild my rocket and go back to the moon.
I miss aknarbalalalalafefadooo and want to hear more stories of the other side of the galaxy.
Ridiculous. He used the Nazi flying saucers.
‘Iron Sky’ IS a docu-drama.
Did you ever see that movie about the NAZI moon base, where descendants of escaped Nazi's still live, waiting to return to Earth to fight again? (Movie name unknown)
@@rongendron8705 that’s’Iron Sky’, (as per my previous comment). Great movie.
It was thought flying boats would be the future of commercial aviation after the war. They were huge and comfortable. Although things turned out differently they had bright days.
Indeed were the basis of long distance flying Also if had a problem could land at sea and be rescued even if plane was a loss
Thanks for not speeding up the narrating anymore. Sounds so much better!
Imagine wandering around the inside.
Well smaller than C-5 in length and height, but about the similar wingspan.
1947 a massive hydro plane was found in Argentina, that crashed into the ground. It crashed 2km in land, any significant markings were gone but further research found that it was a BV-238. There also was fractures of bones and clothing found near the crash site. It was later found to be German high ranking officers and the planes crew.
Very interesting
Ah yes, our favorite beast of an aircraft.
I even dream about this behemoth.
The way I feel about this plane is the same way Baron Bomburst feels about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
"I want it! I want it!! I WANT IT!!!"
The B-19 wing span also was larger than the Nazi flying boat highlighted in this video. It’s maiden flight was in June, 1941. Had a range of 7,500 miles, and flew often as a test bed. And IT was the largest military aircraft that saw service during the war! How about a video about the B-19 Superbomber?
Love this channel! Get up everyone and smoke some weed while enjoying the many offering of dark!
I always wanted to carbon fiber a Catalina, for a Sky Yacht.
I'll have one but I want my wings aluminum polished to a mirror shine. Carbon hull sounds great though. Can you also make it quitter than the original but more power obviously.
@@boycottjews well, its gonna be Noisy. I was thinking upgrade engines mainly to shed weight and trim.. better range and more weight for fuel. I mean its already a flying gas tank. Let's YOLO it
@@greatskytrollantidrama4473for a really long time I've dreamed about building a Hansa Brendberg flying boat replica. It was already tiny but in true budget fashion I was thinking 10% or less smaller. Could save a ton of weight with an aluminum engine. The orginal engine weighed around 500 pounds if I remember right. There was a lot of versions, but basically a canoe sized wood iron and fabric boat plane. A single seater pusher. They were extremely beautiful. Clearly a machine made for love, it's a shame brothers killed one another in them. I can imagine having several and going camping on an island with some friends.
This aircraft would have been awesome to see!
Adi, always happy landings
Do the minuteman or an ICBM
War Thunder players: *Vietnam flashbacks*
There is even an Arcade map in WT called Vietnam so, this works even better.
Wasn’t aware of this one and I have much better than average WWII knowledge.
Same....
Must have been an awesome site in the air.
Too bad that beautiful floatplane had only a short history of service.
It's a pity such a magnificent thing was destroyed. But war being war. And the Nazi's not being good people. It had to be done