I would love to hear a comparison of the different stock Shires, such as the Q series and the Chicago, New York, and Ralph Sauer Models, I am curious as to how the Q series holds up in comparison.
Yes, absolutely! The interchangeability/upgrade potential of the Q series is one of the bigger selling points in my opinion (besides the fact they play great!)
You would be able to order the detachable bell through any Shires dealer (including the Trombone Shop ;) ) The price for the bell and flat case is $1990.00. If you have any other questions or are interested in learning more feel free to shoot me a message at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com; thanks!
I went to all state band a couple months ago and saw the guy a chair in front of me start screwing his bell on and I was blown away because a detachable bell was such a foreign concept to me. I immediately asked him what brand it was and then he told me it was Shires and he even let me play it. Very nice instruments man, the sound is just so heavenly.
We tend to agree! The screw bell concept is really catching on and it is amazing what a difference it can make with the timbre and response of the instrument. Congrats on the all-state band BTW!
Could a shires bassbone fit in one of those slim cases? I'm looking into a detachable rose gold bell & It'd be really cool if I could get my bass in a case that small.
Marcus Bonna and a few others absolutely make cases for detachable flare base Trombones; they are a little bit bigger than the tenor cases but not by much. Detachable flares seem to really be gaining a hold in the bass trombone community; when I was visiting with SE Shires this summer they said 60% of players were choosing detachable flare basses!
Shires is able to do a detachable-bell setup on any tenor or bass bell, although they typically recommend going a bit lighter on the material gauge as the collar does add extra mass. I personally like how their detachable-bell combos play; especially with a lighter bell the collar adds core and stability to the sound and aids the color distribution that I think a lot of players are looking for right now. With the Shires cut-bell case or another similar design they are amazingly thin and compact as well...
Schmitt Music Trombone Shop thank you so much for the feedback. So from my understanding, it would be wiser to maybe use a yellow brass detachable bell rather than the Ralph Sauer red brass? The rest of my horn is pretty much all yellow brass so would it be too polarizing to add a red bell? I love your videos and you’re always very helpful, so thanks a lot!
I would be happy to chat about ways we may be able to help; feel free to email the Trombone Shop at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com and I would love to talk :)
According to Shires, no. With the way that they build their cut bells Shires says that the stem/flare fit can be subtly different for every bell; I’ve had folks ask about buying replacement flares and the answer to this point is that they aren’t available...
If I were to purchase any shires custom trombone, would I have to option to get the bell be detached or what that be extra? Also, do all of the Shires custom horns come with the Marco Magi cases?
A detachable bell is indeed available as an standard option, adding $200-300 depending on tenor or bass. As of the beginning of this year all custom Shires come with Marcus Bonna cases, including cut-bell options…
If we are talking about the Shires LW bell keep in mind that their LW is the same gauge as most other makers' standard gauge. From my understanding Shires will either use a completely different gauge for the screw bells or shave down the material to lighten things up a bit. I will ask for some clarification from them and let you know what I find out!
¡Gracias por el mensaje! Una campana desmontable de S.E. Shires tiene un precio de $ 1690 USD; si quisieras incluir el estuche extraíble Marco Magi, sería de $ 1990 USD. El envío a Perú sería de aproximadamente $ 325.00 USD. Si está interesado en aprender más, no dude en ponerse en contacto conmigo en tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com. ¡Gracias! Thank you for the message! A detachable bell from S.E. Shires is priced at $1690 USD; if you wanted the Marco Magi detachable bell case included it would be $1990 USD. Shipping to Peru would be approximately $325.00 USD. If you are interested in learning more please feel free to contact me at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com. Thanks!
I’m so confused on how you would assemble it. 1. How much is it with just the bell and the case, as you showed? 2. How would you detach the tubing from the other trombone? 3. Where would you buy this? 4. Could you detach the tubing from any other trombone?
Thank you for the message! To answer your questions: 1. The detachable-flare bell/case combo is $1990.00 2. S.E. Shires trombones are designed with screw collar connections on the main bell braces allowing for bells and valve sections to be exchanged. 3. We can order a detachable-flare bell/case setup from Shires; we don't always keep this combination in stock as Shires has a wide variety of bell designs available and players often have particular preferences. 4. Shires offers detachable-flare bells for large bore tenor and bass; these setups will work on any S.E. Shires custom or Q series large bore tenors or basses that have removable bells.
Keith, thanks for what you’re doing! I listen to videos like this on headphones so I can hear every nuance of the sound of the trombones you demo. I imagine many do the same. BUT, in this recording, in your excitement, you are emphatically speaking introductory words, like “BUT” ten times louder than the rest of your sentence! The result is that while I’m wearing my headphones, you are blowing my head off several times during this one video! Please stop doing that!
Thanks for the comment and my apologies for the "pops!" Since this video we have upgraded our recording setup significantly; hopefully the audio quality has become more consistent and less painful!
I would love to hear a comparison of the different stock Shires, such as the Q series and the Chicago, New York, and Ralph Sauer Models, I am curious as to how the Q series holds up in comparison.
Great vids! That's a nice looking case!
Is it possible to attach this bell to a Q Series trombone?
Yes, absolutely! The interchangeability/upgrade potential of the Q series is one of the bigger selling points in my opinion (besides the fact they play great!)
Schmitt Music Trombone Shop Cool. How would I go about ordering this detachable bell upgrade, and how much would it cost?
You would be able to order the detachable bell through any Shires dealer (including the Trombone Shop ;) ) The price for the bell and flat case is $1990.00. If you have any other questions or are interested in learning more feel free to shoot me a message at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com; thanks!
Schmitt Music Trombone Shop Can you attach it to artist models like the two new Alessi horns? Btw can u do a review on both of the new ones?
I went to all state band a couple months ago and saw the guy a chair in front of me start screwing his bell on and I was blown away because a detachable bell was such a foreign concept to me. I immediately asked him what brand it was and then he told me it was Shires and he even let me play it. Very nice instruments man, the sound is just so heavenly.
We tend to agree! The screw bell concept is really catching on and it is amazing what a difference it can make with the timbre and response of the instrument. Congrats on the all-state band BTW!
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop thank you!
Could a shires bassbone fit in one of those slim cases? I'm looking into a detachable rose gold bell & It'd be really cool if I could get my bass in a case that small.
Marcus Bonna and a few others absolutely make cases for detachable flare base Trombones; they are a little bit bigger than the tenor cases but not by much. Detachable flares seem to really be gaining a hold in the bass trombone community; when I was visiting with SE Shires this summer they said 60% of players were choosing detachable flare basses!
So I have a shires custom TBSCA model horn, can I put this on my horn? And would you recommend it?
Shires is able to do a detachable-bell setup on any tenor or bass bell, although they typically recommend going a bit lighter on the material gauge as the collar does add extra mass. I personally like how their detachable-bell combos play; especially with a lighter bell the collar adds core and stability to the sound and aids the color distribution that I think a lot of players are looking for right now. With the Shires cut-bell case or another similar design they are amazingly thin and compact as well...
Schmitt Music Trombone Shop thank you so much for the feedback. So from my understanding, it would be wiser to maybe use a yellow brass detachable bell rather than the Ralph Sauer red brass? The rest of my horn is pretty much all yellow brass so would it be too polarizing to add a red bell? I love your videos and you’re always very helpful, so thanks a lot!
Como conseguir um desses no Brasil?
I would be happy to chat about ways we may be able to help; feel free to email the Trombone Shop at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com and I would love to talk :)
Keith, do stems work with different flairs?
According to Shires, no. With the way that they build their cut bells Shires says that the stem/flare fit can be subtly different for every bell; I’ve had folks ask about buying replacement flares and the answer to this point is that they aren’t available...
If I were to purchase any shires custom trombone, would I have to option to get the bell be detached or what that be extra? Also, do all of the Shires custom horns come with the Marco Magi cases?
A detachable bell is indeed available as an standard option, adding $200-300 depending on tenor or bass. As of the beginning of this year all custom Shires come with Marcus Bonna cases, including cut-bell options…
Hi, if I play with red light Weight bell, I would have to play with extra light Weight Detachable Bell, wouldn't you?
Thank you in advange
If we are talking about the Shires LW bell keep in mind that their LW is the same gauge as most other makers' standard gauge. From my understanding Shires will either use a completely different gauge for the screw bells or shave down the material to lighten things up a bit. I will ask for some clarification from them and let you know what I find out!
Huh - that's pretty hip - maybe I purchased too soon... Can I trade in my 10 (12?) yo tenor?
Quiero saber el precio de esa campana con envio ha Perú 🇵🇪 saludos
¡Gracias por el mensaje! Una campana desmontable de S.E. Shires tiene un precio de $ 1690 USD; si quisieras incluir el estuche extraíble Marco Magi, sería de $ 1990 USD. El envío a Perú sería de aproximadamente $ 325.00 USD. Si está interesado en aprender más, no dude en ponerse en contacto conmigo en tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com. ¡Gracias!
Thank you for the message! A detachable bell from S.E. Shires is priced at $1690 USD; if you wanted the Marco Magi detachable bell case included it would be $1990 USD. Shipping to Peru would be approximately $325.00 USD. If you are interested in learning more please feel free to contact me at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com. Thanks!
I want to hear it played without the bell, just to see what it will sound like.
The next time I get one in I will do so!
I’m so confused on how you would assemble it.
1. How much is it with just the bell and the case, as you showed?
2. How would you detach the tubing from the other trombone?
3. Where would you buy this?
4. Could you detach the tubing from any other trombone?
Thank you for the message! To answer your questions:
1. The detachable-flare bell/case combo is $1990.00
2. S.E. Shires trombones are designed with screw collar connections on the main bell braces allowing for bells and valve sections to be exchanged.
3. We can order a detachable-flare bell/case setup from Shires; we don't always keep this combination in stock as Shires has a wide variety of bell designs available and players often have particular preferences.
4. Shires offers detachable-flare bells for large bore tenor and bass; these setups will work on any S.E. Shires custom or Q series large bore tenors or basses that have removable bells.
Schmitt Music Trombone Shop thank you so much! I’ll be buying one soon as I get the money for it! Thank you!
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Keith, thanks for what you’re doing! I listen to videos like this on headphones so I can hear every nuance of the sound of the trombones you demo. I imagine many do the same. BUT, in this recording, in your excitement, you are emphatically speaking introductory words, like “BUT” ten times louder than the rest of your sentence! The result is that while I’m wearing my headphones, you are blowing my head off several times during this one video! Please stop doing that!
Thanks for the comment and my apologies for the "pops!" Since this video we have upgraded our recording setup significantly; hopefully the audio quality has become more consistent and less painful!
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop It's not the equipment, it's your ffff BUTs!