Why Germans Fled to South America After WW2 | Animated History

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  • @TheArmchairHistorian
    @TheArmchairHistorian  Рік тому +235

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    • @AliAbbas_2009
      @AliAbbas_2009 Рік тому +2

      please uniform video

    • @Gemoron
      @Gemoron Рік тому

      can you rename the video to imply national socialists fled to south america? not Germans in general

    • @greatgrungustwo904
      @greatgrungustwo904 Рік тому +1

      that thumbnail tho

    • @doctorwoah9672
      @doctorwoah9672 Рік тому +1

      Hey, in the minute 8:26 you put the face of the Argentine dictator Videla, not the chilean one of the same lastname, they were not related, nice video though.

    • @jes3d
      @jes3d Рік тому +8

      no

  • @crosher1
    @crosher1 Рік тому +1731

    They always talk about how the Nazis went to South America or Argentina but they always forget that a large part of them went to the USA and the Soviet Union.

    • @Anselmer_
      @Anselmer_ Рік тому +158

      Yeah but the fact that any of them escaped due to US or British tax money should be more well known.

    • @Arrows_Of_Doom
      @Arrows_Of_Doom Рік тому +178

      And as a result we benefited immensely through Operation Paperclip.

    • @mikloridden8276
      @mikloridden8276 Рік тому +31

      @@Arrows_Of_DoomI wonder why they couldn’t just execute those war criminals after taking all their knowledge. Was it that hard to play nice temporarily?

    • @googane7755
      @googane7755 Рік тому +181

      ​​​@@mikloridden8276Then the other war criminals find out and none of them will cooperate. Plus the US, UK cared more about anti-communism than punishing war criminals.
      Also knowledge involving jets, rockets and nuclear technology are not something that's easily learnt and you need those specialised individuals working on it for decades.

    • @mikloridden8276
      @mikloridden8276 Рік тому +24

      @@googane7755 I get that but a lot of those guys ended up just retiring and not touching anything. Would have been cool if they just disappeared them during those times for Justice sakes.

  • @EzequielMinsburg
    @EzequielMinsburg Рік тому +1031

    One correction: the general used to represent Chile in 8:25 is actually an Argentine dictator, Jorge Rafael Videla, one of our most infamous dictators

    • @bengamerlsyolo6788
      @bengamerlsyolo6788 Рік тому +73

      Chilean here, can confirm

    • @MrBao-yt7bk
      @MrBao-yt7bk Рік тому +16

      If they have a Videla portrait, then dirty war video confirmed😳😳😳???

    • @Pucaramodels
      @Pucaramodels Рік тому +14

      ​@@MrBao-yt7bkprobably re-used from malvinas video (?)

    • @embreis2257
      @embreis2257 Рік тому +9

      8:58 another correction: the word the graphics guy wanted to write is _Gesellschaft_ (as in 'society') and not Gesselschaft

    • @bengamerlsyolo6788
      @bengamerlsyolo6788 Рік тому +23

      @@Pucaramodels No. The President they were probably searching for wad Gabriel Gonzales *Videla* someone must've gotten their reaserch slightly off

  • @scottanno8861
    @scottanno8861 Рік тому +837

    My brazilian grandpa was an electrician during ww2. He even had a helmet with lightning bolts on it!

    • @Kumimono
      @Kumimono Рік тому +225

      Two lightning bolts? Means he was an expert in both AC and DC. Skilled man. :)

    • @choopy8493
      @choopy8493 Рік тому

      Bah guri tche

    • @milkenthusiast.3486
      @milkenthusiast.3486 Рік тому +22

      @German_Empire_enjoyernot the Kaiser

    • @parrotconservative
      @parrotconservative Рік тому +5

      😂

    • @anjalE30
      @anjalE30 Рік тому

      Those 2 lightning bolts stand for the SS.....which they were the ones that ran ALL the concentration camps!!!
      Aka SKULL
      Research history
      Heinrich himmler

  • @gabicerulean
    @gabicerulean Рік тому +1100

    As a brazilian, I remember having a history class at 8th grade about ww2, and my teacher taught us about Mengele, and all the crimes he committed and was never punished for. That was for sure a very painful class to have, but a very necessary one imo

    • @yamataichul
      @yamataichul Рік тому +20

      I'm glad he didn't keep it to himself and even educate classes of people about such horror

    • @zanesc01
      @zanesc01 Рік тому +51

      I still remember reading mengele's Wikipedia Page thinking about it as the history of the far away european continent, as customary for anyone in the New World basically.
      Then I was shocked to read he died in fucking BERTIOGA, a beach town in my state where I've been to multiple times

    • @gabicerulean
      @gabicerulean Рік тому +35

      @@zanesc01 crazy to think the worst monsters in human history escaped uncharged for their actions, living free while not even feeling any remorse for the piles of corpses they left behind

    • @leighbelk769
      @leighbelk769 Рік тому +23

      @@gabiceruleanAt the very least, Mengele had a pretty horrific death by drowning. Shiro Isshi got to live peacefully and died surrounded by his family when he took so many people away from theirs.

    • @isaaclobo7311
      @isaaclobo7311 Рік тому +2

      Eu lembro de ter lido um artigo na Superinteressante há uns 10 anos sobre ele também
      Deveria ter morrido mt mais devagar do que morreu

  • @xaviersaavedra7442
    @xaviersaavedra7442 Рік тому +562

    As someone who gose to Mexico every other summer. It’s a great place to get away from it all. Especially rural towns. Latin America is definitely a great place to flee into hiding.

    • @EduardoEscarez
      @EduardoEscarez Рік тому +68

      The thing with Argentina/Brasil/Chile is that previous immigration waves made even easier to hide in cities though the integration of their culture in the local one, and also climate is quite similar in the southern regions, like in the cities around Llanquihue lake in Chile that almost looks like as if it were in Germany; so they could even speak in German without raising suspicions.

    • @xaviersaavedra7442
      @xaviersaavedra7442 Рік тому +6

      @@EduardoEscarez neat.

    • @lettuceman9439
      @lettuceman9439 Рік тому +17

      Revolutionary mexico is actually a interesting subject given how it was deadly against almost every radical movement and was extremely left leaning (at the time).
      Harboring trotsky and aiding the republicans in the spanish civil war must have deterred war criminals of the funny austrian very very cautious.

    • @sanexpreso2944
      @sanexpreso2944 Рік тому +6

      We are talking about the southern cone, I don't think anyone wants to hide in Mexico knowing that they have the side to the country with more larger espionage organizations.

    • @delarkaBCN
      @delarkaBCN Рік тому

      ​@@lettuceman9439 the only ones with the cojones to see Franco for what it was. A fascist dictador and part of the fuckin axxis.

  • @tuff9486
    @tuff9486 Рік тому +149

    People must also remember that the vast majority of Germans and Italians who came to South America, came before the war. This is why the Nations where sympathetic to these nations. Since they already had a large diaspora of those cultures

    • @anjalE30
      @anjalE30 Рік тому

      No no no
      Ppl better research history and pay attention
      Germany and the Italians and the CARTELS have been in business together for MANY YEARS!!!
      The Italian mafias run and own almost everything...as well as GERMANY!!!
      And this has been since ancient times.... the holy Roman empire

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 Рік тому +8

      Truth.

    • @EduardoAMarques
      @EduardoAMarques Рік тому +14

      Yes, the Germans started to arrive around 1820s and the Italians on 1870s… way before the wars.

    • @SuperCatacata
      @SuperCatacata Рік тому +3

      Yeah, that's why my grandpa has an SS uniform ☺

    • @orphancharmander1168
      @orphancharmander1168 Рік тому

      Yeah, and people have been fleeing to these nations ever since, from there wrongdoings 🧐👍🏻
      You should have shot them, on the border, but Indians have always been weak to pale hight males ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏾✊🏽✊🏿

  • @coolguy...
    @coolguy... Рік тому +384

    I must say it, I love all of your content. All from the roman wars, to the russo-ukrainian conflict. The time and effort you and your team put in to these videos is amazing, keep it up❤

    • @NorseGael1
      @NorseGael1 Рік тому +3

      His videos are quite biased and misguided., IMO

    • @franciscoacevedo3036
      @franciscoacevedo3036 Рік тому +2

      2:30 if only general Lee woulda been held to the Yamashita standard which the USA held Japan and Germany

    • @SpaceMonkeyBoi
      @SpaceMonkeyBoi Рік тому +20

      ​@@NorseGael1you wouldn't have said a word if the video was filled with stuff you only agree with. People only complain about bias when it's stuff they don't like. The guys at Armchair try their best to be impartial, but it's very hard to do so when talking about Nazis.

  • @giorgijioshvili9713
    @giorgijioshvili9713 Рік тому +71

    everybody gangsta till your Argentinian grandpa start's speaking fluent German

  • @belegthoron8603
    @belegthoron8603 Рік тому +301

    German inmigration and influence in Chile was already strong by late XIX century (For example, the Armed Forces were reformed and influenced by prussian military traditions). A great part of Chile's society admired german culture.This was one of the reasons why Chile mantained its neutrality for so long and only declared war on Japan in 1945, but not against Germany or Italy. German colonies already existed in Chile, especially in the southern regions, and some german-chileans even fought in the war (like Peter Adolf Caesar Hansen).
    Therebefore, Chile was a good place for nazis to escape and settle.

  • @AbstractHistory01
    @AbstractHistory01 Рік тому +14

    Cheers from Chile! I have been watching your channel for years, It's amazing to see how it has evolved.

  • @superpacocaalado7215
    @superpacocaalado7215 Рік тому +36

    Mengele lived for years in a mud brick house in a very poor neighborhood in the state of São Paulo, people said that he never talked to anybody, only when he went to the closest bakery to buy food.
    It is also believed that he traveled once to the city of Cândido Godói in Southern Brazil, the city is famous for being the place with the biggest amount of twins in the world.

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Рік тому

      Say the real reason.
      He had a job as a doctor and performed abortions. And not the good kind. The kind he performed cause he really missed the war. Wouldn't be surprised if some mothers died under his care (and obviously didn't know who he was) Gisella Perl he was never.

    • @loganicfilms1388
      @loganicfilms1388 Рік тому +3

      Oh that’s just swell.

  • @diegoontour
    @diegoontour Рік тому +42

    Love your content, it's so well researched. Thanks for making a video about LATAM again.
    Greetings from Chile! 🇨🇱

  • @mr.shadow8812
    @mr.shadow8812 Рік тому +48

    My great grandfather was german and apparently fled during the war (according to my grandma) to Colombia where I am from. I never was told if he was actually escaping the conflict or the loss…

  • @tekuaniaakab2050
    @tekuaniaakab2050 Рік тому +209

    The role of Latin America in WW2 often gets overlooked. Great vid

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Рік тому +189

    Biggest plot twist would be if it turned out Austrian Painter survived WW2 and his family is looking to regain power yet again

    • @indianajones4321
      @indianajones4321 Рік тому +20

      As an angry mustache model in Argentina

    • @MrHel-hf3nk
      @MrHel-hf3nk Рік тому

      I see you everywhere

    • @kingofcards9516
      @kingofcards9516 Рік тому +4

      Is this a reference to something?

    • @darksidedelta
      @darksidedelta Рік тому

      @HeisenbergFam
      No ! But his reincarnation will.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Рік тому +4

      Hitler has no children of his own. He only has one sister that died unmarried and childless. His one nephew (that we know of) enlisted in the US Navy around 1942 so that is a dead end...

  • @nothing-mm8ui
    @nothing-mm8ui Рік тому +410

    My Argentinian grandfathers work uniform has lightning bolts on it. Guess he was a really good electrician! Still wondering what the red flag in his attic is for though.

    • @titanlord9267
      @titanlord9267 Рік тому +86

      He might have been a gas worker. A hindu gasworker. A hindu gasworker who somehow has lopsided vision

    • @willfakaroni5808
      @willfakaroni5808 Рік тому +20

      Plot Twist: His grandfather was just an Argentinian Neo-Nazi not a real nazi

    • @beetlebg3759
      @beetlebg3759 Рік тому +6

      @@titanlord9267Wait hold on? Why you said Hindu gasworker? That symbol was stolen by the Nazis from India.

    • @xShadow_God
      @xShadow_God Рік тому +1

      @@beetlebg3759 Isn't Hindu an Indian religion though?

    • @beetlebg3759
      @beetlebg3759 Рік тому +1

      @@xShadow_God Yeah like that’s what it is and I was wondering why he did that because it might offend a lot of people.

  • @SamTaylor-vl8hi
    @SamTaylor-vl8hi Рік тому +208

    Great video as usual but as a long time viewer I’ve noticed you guys are really focused on the Second World War and the most popular content you can think of. I understand those get more views but I hope you guys know you have a loyal viewer base that will support whatever you want to do. Keep it up guys👍

    • @Nomadith
      @Nomadith Рік тому +10

      Agreed, I'd love some more German unification, Northern War etc - basically 1700-1800

    • @franciscoacevedo3036
      @franciscoacevedo3036 Рік тому +4

      2:30 if only general Lee woulda been held to the Yamashita standard which the USA held Japan and Germany

    • @WellBattle6
      @WellBattle6 Рік тому +5

      @@franciscoacevedo3036 Civil war is different from wars between countries. Plus the Confederates received a conditional surrender which legally protected them from treason convictions. Otherwise, the civil war would have lasted longer.

    • @franciscoacevedo3036
      @franciscoacevedo3036 Рік тому

      @@WellBattle6 so you wanted the United States to comply with a treaty??? The same country who tore up hundreds of native land treatises, the German empire conditional surrender, the 40 acres and a mule, the Cherokee representative in Congress??? All promises BROKEN. Not to mention that those British taxes taught in school were a result of the USA provoking the 7 years w4r after CONTINUOUSLY disregarding the British authorities and settling into native land. No, brother those W4R Cr8mln4ls shoulda been hog tied dragged through the dirt they whipped millions of black 🖤 people court marshalled in west point and húng. Those mofos are indeed a public nuisance that's the reasoning USA wanted to eradicated nassies from Germany. And btw the civil war is STILL dragging on socially. You got a good amount of the country h4ting on Kaepernick while elevating these monsters to school names busts statues military bases. If this country was Germany we would be elevating the Austrian failed artist while h4ting on Ann Frank

    • @sirllamaiii9708
      @sirllamaiii9708 Рік тому

      Mainly just because wwii has the biggest scale and the most detailed records

  • @JeSuisPasLui2407
    @JeSuisPasLui2407 Рік тому +56

    Come for the thumbnail, stay for the content

    • @Rn.Sq.Kn.
      @Rn.Sq.Kn. 7 місяців тому

      The thumbnail is literally fanservice for history nerds like us

  • @captaincole4511
    @captaincole4511 Рік тому +15

    That thumbnail lol.
    Love your stuff!

  • @annoyedbrox4851
    @annoyedbrox4851 Рік тому +14

    Yet another masterpiece by the armchair historian team. Love your work

  • @OSCARESCAPA
    @OSCARESCAPA 11 місяців тому +8

    I grew up in Peru and my best friend from high school has a german last name. He told me his family from the mothers side were germans that came to the Peruvian amazon just one generation ago. He told me stories about his uncle living in the jungle and being a crazy man. Now living in Peru as a child I didnt know enough about world history to connect the dots, but now that Im an adult living the US I realize that probably my best friends family were nazis that left Germany after the war. I havent seen him in years but next time I see him I will sure tell him "dude your family were nazis that left after ther war" lol we will probably have a good laugh about it... I want to add that my friend and his mom are probably the nicest and most caring people I have met in my life. His mom was a nice caring woman that dedicated her entire life to raise her children, when I was already an adult she once told me a very caring and heartfelt story about how my friends father had raised him. So there you go for being the descendants of people who the world have demonized in history, never judge people you havent met.

  • @thenewongoam2486
    @thenewongoam2486 Рік тому +70

    In Chile there was a German Commune known as Colonia Dignidad whose leader was a Former Nazi who fled Germany Outside was Normal but Inside was a Torture Chamber for Pinochet Secret Police.

  • @bengamerlsyolo6788
    @bengamerlsyolo6788 Рік тому +28

    8:26
    Small Correction.
    The man on the left is Jorge Rafael Videla, the Argentinan Dictator from 1976 to 1981.
    He was not a Chilean political figure or head of state.
    Personally, I would've used the images of Presidents Juan Antonio Rios or Gabirel Gonzales Videla.
    I'm not sure if the image of the Paraguayn representative is correct so maybe someone can help me out here.

  • @thecomradetrotsky
    @thecomradetrotsky Рік тому +32

    As a Brazilian with a German family I'm proud
    That they came from the HRE and Luxembourg in 1862

    • @TheBearInTheChair
      @TheBearInTheChair Рік тому

      I got family down there, too. Never do I miss the chance to tell people about my grandfather being in ww2 or about my Argentine relatives....
      He earned the Medal of Honor at the Battle of Ramagen, and part of us left for there after participating in The Hungarian War of Independence (1848-1849).

    • @mandiocatostada3859
      @mandiocatostada3859 Рік тому +1

      😮‍💨

    • @jaif7327
      @jaif7327 2 місяці тому

      HRE in 1862????? lmao

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Рік тому +25

    I've never been to South America myself, but I would like to visit the Andes in particular. Thank you for another interesting episode.
    God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

  • @brysonbennett1561
    @brysonbennett1561 Рік тому +5

    The quality on your new vids is insane.

  • @RingManofChaos
    @RingManofChaos Рік тому +6

    The thumbnail is amazing

  • @TasdonJoin
    @TasdonJoin Рік тому +5

    Amazing video once again

  • @joem4939
    @joem4939 Рік тому +43

    Surprised you never mentioned Martin Bormann since he’s the only one of Hitler’s close staff that has a debated escape story to Paraguay. Historians lean on the side of him being shot outside the train station in Berlin’s Government District, but there are some things that contradict that.

    • @SomeHarbourBastard
      @SomeHarbourBastard Рік тому +4

      It was used as a joke in _Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory_ (1971).
      When they announce the false fifth winner on the telly, the Paraguayan casino mogul, they bring up his picture, and it’s an old portrait of Bormann with the insignias all airbrushed off.

    • @christycullen2355
      @christycullen2355 Рік тому

      Watch Dr Mark Feltons videos on it. They believe he was killed in Berlin. According to Dr Felton at least and he's an expert on it

  • @cepv_2305
    @cepv_2305 Рік тому +18

    Hoping for a video regarding about Operation Condor, South America deserves more attention!

  • @akramgimmini8165
    @akramgimmini8165 Рік тому +3

    Thx for this great Birthday Present 😋👍🥳

  • @DPRK_NorthKorea
    @DPRK_NorthKorea Рік тому +5

    a new banger of a video 🔥🔥🔥

  • @notdancooper923
    @notdancooper923 Рік тому +120

    It makes me a little bit happy knowing that Mengele died in such a terrifying way - slipping underwater as he's unable to will his muscles to pull him to the surface, being fully aware of his fate

    • @mide8845
      @mide8845 Рік тому +39

      Should have been worse

    • @philippeszwarcbart6507
      @philippeszwarcbart6507 Рік тому +9

      It’s been rumored that he was assassinated and made to look like he drowned.

    • @roomyhaddock3245
      @roomyhaddock3245 Рік тому +31

      @@philippeszwarcbart6507Whether that's true or not, his afterlife would have still been the same, in Hell

    • @philippeszwarcbart6507
      @philippeszwarcbart6507 Рік тому +17

      @@roomyhaddock3245 100% he’s in hell. However there is something comforting about the rumor that Mossad may have had the last laugh and gotten justice by delivering him to hell.

    • @calculatedrage2819
      @calculatedrage2819 Рік тому +6

      It was still too good for him but too each their own.

  • @julianputnam8290
    @julianputnam8290 Рік тому +26

    They also went to NASA

  • @vasoconvict
    @vasoconvict Рік тому +8

    You are the absolute last person I would expect to reference wojaks anywhere, especially your thumbnail

  • @elchongo7213
    @elchongo7213 Рік тому +9

    8:25 why is Videla (An Argentinian) the one to represent Chile?

  • @jimc.goodfellas
    @jimc.goodfellas Рік тому +3

    That thumbnail is freakin amazing

  • @Thegoldenaerobar2
    @Thegoldenaerobar2 Рік тому +2

    I love the videos, they only go up in quality! ❤

  • @AhmetYildirim-b5w
    @AhmetYildirim-b5w Рік тому +4

    Nice work bro

  • @AT-zj2bp
    @AT-zj2bp 5 місяців тому +1

    This is the greatest thumbnail in the history of thumbnails since maybe ever.

  • @asetto15
    @asetto15 Рік тому +88

    "Not just beer and pretzels" lmao that needs to be used more often in your videos when the Germans have trouble with something.
    "They attempted to take Stalingrad but it wasn't just beer and pretzels"

    • @gamerdrache8741
      @gamerdrache8741 Рік тому +3

      Germany isn't just bear and brezels

    • @EntNatal
      @EntNatal Рік тому +8

      He’s used the phrase “sunshine and sauerkraut” a couple of times before, which is also a lovey phrase.

    • @JinTeutonic53
      @JinTeutonic53 Рік тому +1

      Yeah its so funny🥸hahahahaha🤦

  • @dasprowhite
    @dasprowhite Рік тому +4

    Finally,the perfect thumbail for a history video.

  • @MdArtsandGaming
    @MdArtsandGaming Рік тому +12

    Fun fact: among the last major incidents of Germans fleeing to South America happened in the early '90s with Erich Honecker and his family in Chile, though it was less "escape" and more "got off by technicality due to cancer."
    Apparently both Erich and his wife were given a sendoff worthy of the DDR there, with the surviving members of Allende's family in attendance.

  • @АндрейТопал-й5ф
    @АндрейТопал-й5ф Рік тому +1

    What a stunning animation!

  • @luciad.6487
    @luciad.6487 Рік тому +8

    Just wanted to tell you how your videos really helped me to get through the final exams in High school two years ago and introduced me to so much knowledge about history. Especially, being from south america i was surprised how little i was explained about WWI and WWII outside Germany, Italy and the UK. Here i am, two years later and I'm quite sure that after finishing university i'm gonna get a major in history

  • @Latin_American_Economic
    @Latin_American_Economic Рік тому

    I always wondered about this so thank you for sharing. It's a wonderful thing to do so thank you.. I personally appreciate it.

  • @HaloJumper7
    @HaloJumper7 Рік тому +9

    **Laughs in operation paper clip and NASA**

  • @conserva-chan2735
    @conserva-chan2735 Рік тому +18

    A vid on the Soviet-Afghan war would be amazing

    • @sergioventura2595
      @sergioventura2595 Рік тому +2

      Sup my man but on a different channel!

    • @conserva-chan2735
      @conserva-chan2735 Рік тому +2

      @@sergioventura2595 great minds think alike my good man

    • @sergioventura2595
      @sergioventura2595 Рік тому

      @@conserva-chan2735 What are your thoughts on the thumbnail? I thought it was mega funny

    • @conserva-chan2735
      @conserva-chan2735 Рік тому +2

      @sergioventura2595 very good, reminds me of Wow_Mao

    • @sergioventura2595
      @sergioventura2595 Рік тому

      @@conserva-chan2735 Your also fighting an up hill battle here too?

  • @Lumin08
    @Lumin08 Рік тому +5

    That thumbnail is perfect

  • @kingofthorns203
    @kingofthorns203 Рік тому

    Thanks for this video. It was super insightful.

  • @V1CTOR07
    @V1CTOR07 Рік тому +1

    Very good video friend from Brazil 🇧🇷🤙

  • @corbinmartin5693
    @corbinmartin5693 Рік тому +5

    Perfect thumbnail

  • @argentinepatriot
    @argentinepatriot Рік тому +1

    At 8:31, Jorge Rafael Videla (left) was actually leading Argentina during the years of 1976 - 1981

  • @hunterfalkenberg2837
    @hunterfalkenberg2837 Рік тому +34

    My Grandmother and her family left Argentina for the united states in 1960s, fleeing the peron regime. As much of her family was alive at the time there were plenty of stories. For example, my great grandmother who was a teenager at the time, saw a german submarine in the harbor in Mar Del Plata ( where we're from ), as the story goes the soldiers came ashore with their families, while the harbormen unloaded cargo from the sub, she didn't see it but apparently after all was said and done a tug pulled the submarine out of the harbor and was sunk. My grandmother who came to the states, traveled back whenever she could, to visit cousins and relatives. according to her, in the 70s you could still find towns where the majority spoken language was german, as well as the customs and architecture, mostly nestled in the mountains to the south east of where some of our family lived. the places they colonized had some really great skiing so I'm told

    • @eduardolamancusa2400
      @eduardolamancusa2400 Рік тому +10

      An actual persona from Mar del Plata here. What you describe is a well know and documented event, which happened at the end of WWII: the surrendering of U Boat 530 on July 1945. It didnt land any cargo or personnal, just the crew that was moved afterwards to the States with the ship. It's the center of many conspiracy theories unfounded and plain mistaken. They play right along in the hand of white/black history (an error that The Armchair Historian has incurred unfortunately in this video) when analysing latin american history in the forties and fifties.
      Perón, though close with many strong hand dictators, was never "simpathetic" with the Nazi cause. He was a ruthless pragmatic who actually sanctioned a war declaration right at the end of the War after some preassure from the US. However, he was marveled with prussian discipline and specialy germanic innovations -something rightly pointed out by the armchair.- There's actually one of the stories widely spread out here in Argentina: he tried to kickstart a nuclear program but was douped by the lead German scientist. The matter of fact is, and as someone from Chile rightly pointed out above, German influece (both cultural, linguistic, or otherwise) predates BY FAR WWII, its politics, and ideologies.
      I honestly believe that both South American and particualry South American polítics should be analyzed through local sources, not what mainstream US academia says.
      One more thing: before anyone tries to pointed out that Luna Park was the biggest rally of Nazi suporters as a way of discredit what I've said early, I would like to remind You that 20k nazies rallied at the Madison Square Garden.

    • @hunterfalkenberg2837
      @hunterfalkenberg2837 Рік тому +1

      @@eduardolamancusa2400 Thank you for the clarification, I hope all is well in Mar del Plata, I hope the winter isn’t too harsh, when I was last there it was summer and quite gorgeous. On the matter of peron I cannot speak to his sympathies, he was a dictator after all. However we can both thoroughly agree on the massive effect that German immigration and culture has effected South America

    • @eduardolamancusa2400
      @eduardolamancusa2400 Рік тому +2

      @@hunterfalkenberg2837 For now, weather is quite calm; cold, and humid at times as all coastal cities are, but not too harsh. As regards Peron and your charaterization of him as a dictator, I couldn't agree less: at best his politicts were fundamentaly strong handed, but never despotic. He wouldn't have been able to win two legally recognized elections, stop a civil war in the middle by resigning, and building the legal foundations of most unions in all key industrial sectors if he had been a "fascist" dictator, as most anglo-american academia portraits him. He wasn't an angel, as we said around here. However, his relevance as a political figure is regarded as important as Alfonsin, Illia, and even the Foundational Presidents of late XIX century.

  • @Peanutsaur
    @Peanutsaur Рік тому +2

    always a good day when Armchair Historian uploads

  • @colegilbert673
    @colegilbert673 Рік тому +4

    griffin knows what the most catchy thumbnails are 😆

  • @alicewonder5620
    @alicewonder5620 Рік тому +2

    Good video overall, but I found the ticking in the background at some points a bit distracting. I don't know if it's just the way my earbuds are balanced, but the ticking felt pretty loud and disruptive

  • @omarbradley6807
    @omarbradley6807 Рік тому +6

    You didn't mentioned Walter Rauff, he was responsible of the gas vans, and then worked for Chile's government with impunity without even hiding.

  • @soccerguy2433
    @soccerguy2433 Рік тому +2

    Love your videos. I know it's not much but I'm able to thank you

  • @Hrosters
    @Hrosters Рік тому +17

    Can you do an episode on the battle of Doiran? It is a very underrated battle of WW1.

  • @joshlesure3196
    @joshlesure3196 Рік тому

    Excellently informative video about a topic I knew little about! Awesome job, Griffin!

  • @bestcakes
    @bestcakes Рік тому +5

    Griffin said:
    " Let's check if a Mr. beast style thumbnail will generate more views. "

  • @Harbiyiete
    @Harbiyiete Рік тому +5

    This channel boutta rival oversimplified on history contents

  • @legendmotionman4964
    @legendmotionman4964 Рік тому

    freaking love the thumbnail and the refrence dude

  • @seba2541
    @seba2541 Рік тому +4

    8:30 That is the wrong Videla, that one is the argentinean one

  • @chobychapman
    @chobychapman Рік тому

    This channel gets better and better

  • @Josephbyrnehistory
    @Josephbyrnehistory Рік тому +17

    Always amazes me that there are lovely German style (very small) villages in southern Brazil

    • @Igor_054
      @Igor_054 Рік тому +6

      "Very small" applies to some of them. But Blumenau is 360k inhabitants, so not that small.

    • @slohmann1572
      @slohmann1572 Рік тому +2

      I’m from one of those towns. My ancestors came in the 19th century. Ir sucks having to explain that when I say I’m Brazilian of German ancestry 😅

    • @beat1riz
      @beat1riz Рік тому

      Probably they were nazis. Sad truth...

    • @josephshmoesinsky8610
      @josephshmoesinsky8610 Рік тому

      ​@@slohmann1572Lmao, I happen to know a dude who has some german physical traits. He's still Brazilian though.

    • @Kelsin5190
      @Kelsin5190 Рік тому

      ​@@josephshmoesinsky86105 million Brazilians are pure German

  • @Ictorman
    @Ictorman Рік тому

    Congrats on 2M, keep up the good work

  • @KangaKucha
    @KangaKucha Рік тому +32

    Think the answer is it was mostly neutral in the war (except Brazil who joined to make up for WW1 when they weren't as good as hoped, but in WW2 were more helpful. Look up the line "The snake will smoke" for more about it.) like Argentina, despite being democratic, was out of the war and took in many Nazis afterwards.

    • @GoldenOfHue
      @GoldenOfHue Рік тому +4

      And some south american nations only joined because USA asked, like how Turkey and Saudi Arabia joined to "help".

    • @titus_philemon
      @titus_philemon Рік тому

      Make up for WW1?? Germany literally blew up one of Brazil's ship although Brazil had declared neutrality. At that point, there was no option of staying neutral.

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero Рік тому

      there is no such thing as neutrality, only indifference.

  • @eggsaladsamich7396
    @eggsaladsamich7396 Рік тому

    Thanks for the new video. I've had a bad day and I could only listen to sad music until I saw this. Now I'm going to dive into history and great Animation to help me get over my slump

  • @Bleuthatup
    @Bleuthatup Рік тому +6

    You mixed Videla in Chile.
    Also, when you fail to mention that descendants of Germans in Argentina are a tiny fraction of the population and were a smaller fraction of the immigrants (no more than 5%), the vast majority being italian and Spanish, and that most German immigration to Argentina were pre WW2 (and pre WW1!!) Volga Germans, you help perpetuate the myth of Argentina as a country of german nazis which we see toxically used by American racists online.
    This needs to be mentioned because when your video says “German music and culture was integrated into certain areas” (it is!) it’s because of PRE WORLD WAR INMIGRATION, NOT THOUSANDS OF NAZIS FLOCKING POST 1945!
    Please, please, mention this in a comment or annotation because it’s damaging. (We could go on with more stuff such as the infamous state department blue book on Argentina but I digress)

  • @emperorkarlfranzrulerofthe2826

    great video, the thumbnail made me chuckle :D

  • @questionmark05
    @questionmark05 Рік тому +3

    Heinz beans. I get it! Thats funny.
    Argentina built a jet fighter in the 50s using kurt tank and a french collaborationist engineer.

  • @HepCatJack
    @HepCatJack Рік тому +1

    Former Confederacy rebels also ended up in Brasil founding a town called Americana. Some approached Secretary of State Elihu Root (R) in the early 1900's during a Diplomatic visit to Brasil to see if they could return to the U.S but he discouraged them from such an action saying that the U.S had changed too much.

  • @raptorstudio9731
    @raptorstudio9731 Рік тому +6

    10/10 thumbnail

  • @tartzmir7934
    @tartzmir7934 Рік тому +1

    Most fire thumbnails ever 🔥🔥🔥💀🗿🗿💯💯

  • @angusyang5917
    @angusyang5917 Рік тому +5

    Although Mengele was never captured alive, having died in 1979, in 1985, his remains were located and exhumed, and in a karmic twist of irony, his skeleton is now kept at the São Paulo Institute for Forensic Medicine for educational aid.

  • @Joebama-df9ve
    @Joebama-df9ve Рік тому

    Great episode can’t wait for more

  • @thiagocarvalho2928
    @thiagocarvalho2928 Рік тому +3

    In South America we have a joke that says you should never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or an argentine why his grandfather is german.

  • @Bulgarian_Coastline
    @Bulgarian_Coastline Рік тому +1

    Nice video!

  • @DonTitoNYC
    @DonTitoNYC Рік тому +5

    Can you do the Japanese or Italian migration on South America?

  • @starwarsisgreat9130
    @starwarsisgreat9130 Рік тому

    Mqn, been a while since ibe seen a raid ad, love the vids keep it up!

  • @PANZER-FAUST216
    @PANZER-FAUST216 Рік тому +6

    Hell nah that thumbnail 💀

  • @georgerothwell
    @georgerothwell Рік тому

    Great video guys

  • @slohmann1572
    @slohmann1572 Рік тому +3

    8:10 German speaking people (descendants from 19th century immigrants) were forbidden to speak their language in public. Some were randomly beaten or arrested. They’ve even come for their books and burned them. My grandma’s teacher, a Lutheran pastor who was a German national, was deported and died in the journey. It wasn’t fun for our people.

    • @dangi6516
      @dangi6516 Рік тому

      Well burning Europe and Asia wasn't fun at all for all people :)

  • @dendostar5436
    @dendostar5436 Рік тому

    Great episode, Griff!

  • @Freeplayone
    @Freeplayone Рік тому +4

    Fun fact. After the german reunification in 1989, east german officials also fleed to south america to avoid trail😆. Some Things never chance

  • @tomeknowakowski7051
    @tomeknowakowski7051 Рік тому

    Lovely content - thank you !

  • @lumbagogaming2129
    @lumbagogaming2129 Рік тому +11

    One of the best thumbnails I’ve seen from this channel 😂

  • @catnaut9035
    @catnaut9035 Рік тому +2

    Has there ever been a better thumbnail

  • @ez33kiel6
    @ez33kiel6 Рік тому +3

    Love the thumbnail

  • @artiomvv569
    @artiomvv569 Рік тому

    The thumbnail was just perfect

  • @Starboy13537
    @Starboy13537 Рік тому +5

    That thumbnail tho 😂😂😂

  • @redzard2015
    @redzard2015 10 місяців тому +1

    8:25 Such disrespect by showing Chile represented by an Argentine president

  • @TheKing-uu7jn
    @TheKing-uu7jn Рік тому +7

    “Papa have you ever been to Germany?”
    “Nein”

  • @mitchellgiles6869
    @mitchellgiles6869 Рік тому

    This question just so happened to pop into my mind just now and here's this video from less than 45 minutes ago. Perfect

  • @kpcomments
    @kpcomments Рік тому +11

    My family fled Germany before ww2 and were welcomed by Paraguay. Now I'm questioning the family history I've been told...

  • @jakebranch2599
    @jakebranch2599 10 місяців тому

    8:10- Rise, from the blood of your heroes
    You were the ones who refused to surrender
    The three, rather die than to flee, know that your memory
    will be sung for a century

  • @Kumimono
    @Kumimono Рік тому +20

    One would think, that one off the main factors causing increased emigration post-war, would be the fact that Germany was bombed to stone age.
    Also, South America only got the ones not good enough for Paperclip.