RINGS OF POWER Ending Explained, Season 2 Theories, & Unanswered Questions!

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  • In this video we take a deep dive into season 1 of Amazon's LORD OF THE RINGS THE RINGS OF POWER, explaining its ending, connection to the books and movies, and theories for season 2!
    0:00 Intro
    0:26 Who is the Stranger?
    2:31 Sauron's True Identity & What's Next
    5:39 The Rings of Power
    6:54 Numenor, Elendil, & Isildur
    8:53 Conclusion
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  • @ThinkStory
    @ThinkStory  Рік тому +74

    💍What did you think of the first season? 💍
    Check out my other Rings of Power video here: ua-cam.com/play/PLY9KJ1cFVs7ibSyrt28Qt0ZtTpb738ptQ.html

    • @Stevenisbelieven
      @Stevenisbelieven Рік тому +12

      The 1st season had some great moments, unfortunately there were too many slow moments that didn't add to the story, and should have been cut.
      The last episode was how the whole season should have been, it finally felt like the plot is moving forward. Season 2 should be awesome!

    • @marcogrady107
      @marcogrady107 Рік тому +3

      9/10

    • @marcogrady107
      @marcogrady107 Рік тому +9

      Now that his Halbrand cover is blown and Sauron is now revealed to Galadriel. Sauron will now shape shift into Annatar. I think the order of ring creation follows the verse, 3 Rings for the Elven Kings, then 7 for the dwarves and then 9 for mortal men and then the Last ring is the one Ring.

    • @QueerlyBeloved386
      @QueerlyBeloved386 Рік тому +1

      There are so many things to cheer for but man, when they drop the ball they drop the ball HARD. See you in Season 2.

    • @turinreza
      @turinreza Рік тому +1

      the mystics are Wights

  • @SorasBlog
    @SorasBlog Рік тому +687

    The most obvious hint that the Stranger is Gandalf ...
    Who else would send a Hobbit into an life threatening adventure?

    • @Missmurder8905
      @Missmurder8905 Рік тому +5

      Potentially in “spirit” the Gandalf we know (in hobbit and LOTR) is only 300 years old.

    • @AmanVerma-qh9jv
      @AmanVerma-qh9jv Рік тому

      @@thetraveler4513 could be 🤔

    • @user-ee1xn5zr3k
      @user-ee1xn5zr3k Рік тому +18

      ​@@thetraveler4513 Stranger says: "When in doubt, Elanor Brandyfoot, always follow your nose". This is almost an exact copy of an iconic Gandalf line from The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: "If in doubt, Meriadoc, always follow your nose". So ...

    • @oen2980
      @oen2980 Рік тому +1

      @@user-ee1xn5zr3k Yeah, that explains a lot.

    • @bellehealingmusic434
      @bellehealingmusic434 Рік тому +2

      He can't be Gandalf as Gandalf comes to the middle earth later after the ring war. He is one of the blue wizards and he cant be Saruman his appearance doesn't match

  • @bySaebraut
    @bySaebraut Рік тому +413

    i am just here to say that halbrand had no right looking this good in the end

  • @jr3dmodeling
    @jr3dmodeling Рік тому +95

    Also Isildur's horse apparently does not think he is dead.

  • @vicentedongo5575
    @vicentedongo5575 Рік тому +392

    Another clue about Hallbrand's identity I have not seen many people point out, is that in the tabern in Numenor, when the smiths ask him by which name should they refer to him, he says 'it depends on how close we are'. Then, after beating the sh*t out of them, he tells them 'call me Hallbrand'. Which implies Hallbrand is a name he uses with people he doesn't trust, hinting at the true nature of his relationship with Galadriel

    • @TestTest-zj9rv
      @TestTest-zj9rv Рік тому +10

      He is also mopping to spread the dust instead of cleaning the dust. The scene where halbrand and galadriel talking at night at smith place

    • @baobaivue9913
      @baobaivue9913 Рік тому +4

      Maybe you are looking too deep into it, but thats a great way to look at it about

    • @GoUtes92
      @GoUtes92 Рік тому +9

      Honestly I wasn’t suspicious until Galadriel figured out he wasn’t a king. I decided fully he must be Sauron when he said “I have been known by many names”.

    • @faebrookeglen5169
      @faebrookeglen5169 Рік тому

      Think you're putting more thought into it than the writers did

    • @f3rap365
      @f3rap365 Рік тому

      Dude don’t listen to these dumb asses saying ur “looking too deep” it makes sense writers have gone further than this for a hint.

  • @vietnamsounds10
    @vietnamsounds10 Рік тому +49

    Another hint The Stranger is Gandalf is the symbol the stars make on the parchment paper looks extremely similar to the symbol he drew on Bilbo's door with his staff.

  • @isnull_or_empty
    @isnull_or_empty Рік тому +291

    With Halbrand being Sauron it always brings me back to that line Frodo mentions in the Fellowship movie that an enemy would look fairer but feel fouler. I feel like Halbrand had too many red flags just in the types of things he said but overall looked like a "nice" guy.

    • @JusticiaD
      @JusticiaD Рік тому +18

      He looks nice, because he IS a nice guy and he deserves a chance 😌

    • @captivated1658
      @captivated1658 Рік тому +27

      @@JusticiaD He's defo more nice then Galadriel, thats for sure.

    • @benfits8768
      @benfits8768 Рік тому +2

      When dose Frodo say that ?

    • @drew284
      @drew284 Рік тому +4

      @@benfits8768 When Aragorn helps them evade the ring-wraiths at Bree, he leads them to Rivendell, but Sam is suspicious of "Strider." Frodo goes "I think the enemy would look fairer, and feel fouler." ua-cam.com/video/e4er8Edq2Go/v-deo.html

    • @drew284
      @drew284 Рік тому

      Merry* is suspicious

  • @anamkhan2603
    @anamkhan2603 Рік тому +347

    “I have found that it is the small everyday deed of ordinary folks that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love.”
    ~Gandalf

    • @brandadse.1741
      @brandadse.1741 Рік тому +12

      Nori telling him it’s what we do that defines us… Gandalf - what we do with the time that is given to us

    • @jimmyramos1989
      @jimmyramos1989 Рік тому +3

      One of my favorite quotes

    • @ibashcommunists6847
      @ibashcommunists6847 Рік тому +5

      Show is woke trash.

    • @jackhughes7637
      @jackhughes7637 Рік тому +12

      @@ibashcommunists6847 Why waste your energy on it then?

    • @ibashcommunists6847
      @ibashcommunists6847 Рік тому +5

      @@jackhughes7637 why waste energy on my post then??

  • @Zam_man
    @Zam_man Рік тому +422

    I think the strongest evidence that points to the stranger being gandalf is the fact that gandalf had a strong connection to the hobbits and now we know why: it was the proto hobbits - harfoots that helped him out when he first arrived

    • @mikewillis33
      @mikewillis33 Рік тому +48

      I thought the same. And explains his extraordinary faith in such important quest in The Hobbit and LotR when they are known to be anything but adventurous

    • @selenarodgers5667
      @selenarodgers5667 Рік тому +20

      Same I agree, this explains why Gandalf was keep telling the dwarves they needed a hobbit with them (on the hobbit movie). 😊

    • @wanderlust6810
      @wanderlust6810 Рік тому +2

      And plus he said he is a wizard...so that definitely make him Gandolf the grey as he is grey as well....

    • @KevinMichael
      @KevinMichael Рік тому +4

      @Jurgen van Gestel yeah but gandalf has a strong connection with nature as well. As seen with the ENTs in the two towers.

    • @rubensoeteman
      @rubensoeteman Рік тому +6

      True it's quite compatible if you treat it as fanfiction.. Nice idea.
      In the a tune in with the actual lore of the rings Gandalf comes way later to help with the Sauron problem after it's already established as a problem, together with the 4 other Istari.

  • @ElleryOmur
    @ElleryOmur Рік тому +104

    The talk of Galadriel's "light" in the finale was not backed up by showing her light in the first 7 episodes. I wish, rather than simply portraying her as a valiant sword fighter, they portrayed her as one who had some magical powers related to the use of light. Perhaps lighting the dark fortress in the first episode, lighting the darkness of Mordor in the seventh episode, or some other similar scene.

    • @ianlord7912
      @ianlord7912 Рік тому +14

      The writers may be intentionally saving that for next season

    • @endlessstudent3512
      @endlessstudent3512 Рік тому +16

      One of the big issues of the show. Yes, they should really stuck to the book description of her beeing adept at magic. Instead they made her more "villian male"...stronger than all the men in her entourage (as if, lol, magic would have been more believable), egoistic, childish, stubborn, proud, ruthless.....compared to her, Halbrand looked like a holy man. Difficult now to pull of the "evil Sauron good Galadriel" trope in the last epsiode, when neither protagonist reflected those characteristics beforehand in a noticable way.

    • @Surgelitex
      @Surgelitex Рік тому +1

      @@ianlord7912 that’s most likely what they are doing.

    • @Kserijaro
      @Kserijaro Рік тому

      Yeah, cus she was the strongest Non-Istari magic wielder

    • @saolairde396
      @saolairde396 Рік тому

      Probably emerges after she gets the ring I would think.

  • @tjgnkc
    @tjgnkc Рік тому +534

    Another clue to Halbrand being Sauron, in ep. 8 after the battle, the people yelled Hail, Halbrand, king of the Southlands, and now that it’s Mordor, he sure is.

    • @benjaminwelsh3092
      @benjaminwelsh3092 Рік тому +19

      For me the tell was when he said to galadreal “ bind it to my very being “

    • @rubensoeteman
      @rubensoeteman Рік тому +41

      When he talked about controlling others by playing onto their fears, in the Numenor jail cell was a big sign for me.

    • @rogue9318
      @rogue9318 Рік тому +3

      It was obvious but the scene that really really confirmed for me that he was Sauron was when Galadriel is taking him to Elven Kingdom, I just know what's about to happen there.

    • @OLLYZOG
      @OLLYZOG Рік тому +30

      @@Materva_ I don’t think you finished the show

    • @donpula6349
      @donpula6349 Рік тому +6

      @@OLLYZOG True, when Galadriel confronts and questioned Helbrand about his false identity as he of the Southland. He admitted to her and said that, "I had have many names". Doing something craftful (In the past he is being an ex-servant of Aulë the blackamith before he joimed Morgoth) in both Numenor and Eregion. Also the deaths of the Numenorean nobles. Its definitely Sauron in disguise.

  • @ej8867
    @ej8867 Рік тому +55

    I've always associated Gandalf with Hobbits. It would make me emotional if the Istar is actually Gandalf. I love the idea that this proto-Gandalf character came to ME as a powerful but blank vasal and the Harfoots imprinted their own kind of goodness/wisdom/sensibilities on him.

    • @sovelar57
      @sovelar57 Рік тому +1

      He is Gandalf. In the first movie of the lord of the rings Gandalf tells Frodo that when in doubt, follow your nose (what you smell) which is the same exact thing he says to Nori.

    • @prodigalfraudaddy
      @prodigalfraudaddy Рік тому +1

      So when does the blue wizards come ? 😂😂4th age ?

    • @dharmikayoga
      @dharmikayoga Рік тому

      I think that's why in the lord of rings and the hobbit series he shows great affinity towards them

  • @paulg9451
    @paulg9451 Рік тому +67

    There’s also the reoccurring theme of fire whenever the episodes involve “Gandalf” and as we all know Gandalf is a Servant of the Secret Fire.

    • @Frankje01
      @Frankje01 Рік тому +2

      well that would technically be true for all maiar who are not turned to evil. It woul more be a reference to Gandalf's Ring which is the third elven ring of power.

    • @obsidian7644
      @obsidian7644 Рік тому +3

      the flame imperishable erus all powerful weapon is the secret fire. I want to see eru and the other vainur on the big screen. Tulkas vs morgoth would be sweet.

    • @moriscondo5511
      @moriscondo5511 Рік тому

      @@obsidian7644 Tulkas, not Tarkus?

    • @obsidian7644
      @obsidian7644 Рік тому

      @@moriscondo5511 yes thanks for the spell check

  • @Cookie12670
    @Cookie12670 Рік тому +63

    I love your summaries. Always nice to hear your voice and thoughts on shows and movies. I will watch your videos whether I’m interested in the topic/ movie/show or not. Thanks for all the quality work.

    • @Robert-tl2vg
      @Robert-tl2vg Рік тому +1

      Dreadful and patronising videos in my view.

    • @free22
      @free22 Рік тому +1

      @@Robert-tl2vg That is your view.

  • @anamkhan2603
    @anamkhan2603 Рік тому +7

    and this is why galadriel had so much beef with sauron. my girl was betrayed badly. sauron being a red flag since day 1 but who could tell her when it was her who gave him the noble and nice titles lol I love PAIN.

  • @astralseraph101
    @astralseraph101 Рік тому +117

    Just to correct you, Narya (the Ring of Fire) was given to Cirdan by Gil-galad and it was Cirdan who gave it to Gandalf. Gil-galad wore Vilya, which was then given to Elrond.

  • @julianneyvonne560
    @julianneyvonne560 Рік тому +38

    Okay everyone has missed a symbol drawn on a log by the meteor Man. He is trying to show or tell Nori who he is and he drew the same exact symbol that Gandalf used in The Hobbit to put on Bilbo's door to market for the dwarves to find. When meteor Man is drawing on the log right before nori's dad breaks his but you can see the symbol it's like a backwards F. So meteor Man and Gandalf are the only two people I've seen use that symbol and timelines don't mean anything so it's probably Gandalf.

    • @future_teknokrat7585
      @future_teknokrat7585 Рік тому +5

      Bingo. Also the same constellation he was trying to form with the fireflies and embers was on the staff. And the fact Gandolf was a fire wizard.

    • @Tangerator
      @Tangerator Рік тому +6

      the problem is the showrunners said they are exploring a wizard that has not been seen much of.

  • @lillyschehen1398
    @lillyschehen1398 Рік тому +10

    I just finished watching Two Towers before watching this final episode, and noticed something in Two Towers about when Gandalf comes back as Gandalf the white. He says “I fell through space and time, and each day was a lifetime of man…” or something of the like. He comes back being like “oh yeah they used to call me Gandalf.” Maybe in some weird way, when he fell through “time” he lived a bunch of lives on middle earth possibly including the strangers life, in order to be brought back and to better understand the enemy? I don’t know, timey wimey stuff but still very cool!!

    • @Michal235
      @Michal235 Рік тому +1

      From what I remember from the lore, Maiars (for example Sauron or Gandalf) could take different forms in Arda (the Earth), since bodies were not more than temporary husks to them. Gandalf had been sent from the spiritual world to the Middle-earth with a certain task (as a counterweight to Sauron), so when his husk (Gandalf the Grey) has been destroyed and his spirit had been freed, it got intercepted by more powerful beings (probably by Valars) who decided that he's still needed and he's worthy of being sent to the Middle-earth again. It all has happened in the spiritual world, in which the phenomena of time loses its sense, thus the sense of millennia passed that Gandalf had.
      Also just a quick note - RoP is a fucking disgrace to the human race and the darkest page of 21th century cinematography.

  • @danielaf1487
    @danielaf1487 Рік тому +11

    Just finished watching the last episode of this first season last night and it turns out the character whose arc I am now most interested in is precisely Sauron's! Gandalf comes second and Elrond comes third, far behind the other two. Unfortunately, I'm not that bothered what happens to all the other characters.

  • @mtaturu
    @mtaturu Рік тому

    Thank you brother. This really helped me understand it.

  • @luffydaking2365
    @luffydaking2365 Рік тому +1

    7:31 “what is and was and will be” is in sync with the animation of the palantir 😂 Great review with awesome background info from the books! 💯

  • @frankenviews4069
    @frankenviews4069 Рік тому +34

    It really had the tone and pacing of the extended 3 hour each cuts of The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Not for everyone, but I found it very watchable. Not surprised by the Sauron reveal but really loved how it was executed. The writing for Sauron's character was amazing. Really going to miss seeing it every week.
    9 out of ten rings for the 1st season.

    • @Ray03595
      @Ray03595 Рік тому +2

      The pace was even slower than the extended cuts. Seems nothing happens until episode 6. The way they cut up the stories was pretty annoying too. Think it’s a mistake a lot
      Of shows do that all the “reveals” need to happen in the finale. A lot of time wasting in the harfoot story. They should’ve shortened it and wrapped up that storyline by episode 7.

    • @AmbikaMenon-eu6lm
      @AmbikaMenon-eu6lm Рік тому +1

      So did I. Enjoyed it. Loved it.

    • @Breadfan00
      @Breadfan00 Рік тому +1

      I liked it too, compared to most other people. Would give 7,5 rings though, still plenty room for improvement!

  • @billn.1318
    @billn.1318 Рік тому +22

    No one going to talk about how he says "‘From the shadows you came. To shadow, I bid you return"? Gandalf said somewhat the same lines against forces of evil when he fought the Balrog in LOTR " Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass". He seems all too familiar with enemies that hail from the shadow. You are welcome.

    • @naturefleur2062
      @naturefleur2062 Рік тому +2

      I caught that immediately!

    • @billn.1318
      @billn.1318 Рік тому

      @Dean Mitchell Very true. Though Gandalf is the only one that really makes a reference about the evils he has encountered in his lifetime. All I know is that.. they botched the show from the moment they decided to make this into a show

  • @linalove5915
    @linalove5915 Рік тому +1

    Great Explanation!

  • @christopherliverman8333
    @christopherliverman8333 Рік тому

    Thank you for explaining

  • @turinreza
    @turinreza Рік тому +5

    The first season went over the mechanism of how sauron would control the others via the bridging of the seen and unseen realms. This mechanism will be used in the rings. Then it showed how sauron gifted technology to make this bridging amplified by using circular pattern like ring or circlet crown. Finally it shows the spirit of sauron and his deception that will be imparted into the One ring that will control them all. The first season covered a lot about the rings of power if you dont focus on materiall ringss

  • @SeanWMODonnell
    @SeanWMODonnell Рік тому +8

    Saroman? was a great wizard before he was corrupted.

  • @illumina_studio
    @illumina_studio Рік тому

    Great review and beeakdown!!!

  • @marcogrady107
    @marcogrady107 Рік тому +18

    Now that his Halbrand cover is blown and Sauron is now revealed to Galadriel. Sauron will now shape shift into Annatar. I think the order of ring creation follows the verse, 3 Rings for the Elven Kings, then 7 for the dwarves and then 9 for mortal men and then the Last ring is the one Ring.

    • @jagatech9345
      @jagatech9345 Рік тому +1

      Which makes no sense because in the lore the 3 Rings were actually made last. The 3 were the most powerful, in part because Celembrimbor and his group had perfected and developed great skill while forging the other rings. So if the 3 are made first and are the most powerful, why would they need Annatars help in forging weaker rings?

    • @icoaguerre7076
      @icoaguerre7076 Рік тому +4

      I think the next season will be a flash back... Of Annatar anad Celebrimbor forging the other rings then gets killed by adar and assumes the form of Halbrand.... then coming back to Eregion to finish what he started.... also when he was in Annatars fair form he poisoned the tree and started spreading the rumors of the elves fading and using the urban legend of mithrill to force their hand some how.

  • @Benjamin-ti1sd
    @Benjamin-ti1sd Рік тому +18

    Best season ending ever. Epic. Can't wait for the other seasons.

  • @epexusJeffryDalisay
    @epexusJeffryDalisay Рік тому +10

    He is Gandalf. Remember When in doubt always follow your nose.

    • @TheNicoliyah
      @TheNicoliyah Рік тому +1

      I thought that too

    • @yuvrajmahendru2149
      @yuvrajmahendru2149 Рік тому +5

      I can't believe why no one's mentioning this lol. It's clearly Gandalf

    • @annikaki8305
      @annikaki8305 Рік тому +2

      And his love for the small folk.

  • @tracynickels164
    @tracynickels164 Рік тому +1

    Loved it!

  • @jo8134
    @jo8134 Рік тому +14

    In J.R.R. Tolkien's (Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age) it is told that aside from Saruman, Gandalf, and Radagast, there were "others of the Istari who went into the east of Middle-earth, and do not come into these tales." Tolkien also writes in (Unfinished Tales) that the two Wizards were sent to the East whose names were "Alatar" and "Pallando". Alatar was a Maia of the Vala Oromë who chose him to go to Middle-earth. Alatar asked his friend Pallando to join him on his mission later.
    In (Unfinished Tales), Tolkien wrote that the five Istari came to Middle-earth together in TA 1000.
    However, in (The Peoples of Middle-earth), they are said to have arrived in the Second Age, around the year SA 1600, the time of the forging of the One Ring.
    Their mission was directed at weakening Sauron's forces in the eastern and southern parts of Middle-earth, whereas the other Istari were focused on the west.
    Could this possibly be Alatar? Or perhaps your right and writers are just doing what they wish now.

    • @temporarilyUnknown
      @temporarilyUnknown Рік тому +2

      This is a solid theory, as a child of Orome would make sense with his tree abilities. I do still think it’s Saruman though, he spent some time in the East. He looks and talks like Saruman. And Saruman was “the other” (think of the Aesthetics line) one of Aule’s creation, the other being Sauron… Saruman is the Other

    • @boatymcboatface666
      @boatymcboatface666 Рік тому

      Thank you! Finally a person who is more familiar with Tolkien lore than the producers of this abysmal series.

    • @kenziefonnesbeck99
      @kenziefonnesbeck99 Рік тому

      @@boatymcboatface666 the producers know plenty, but Tolkien estate only gave them access to the lord of the rings and the appendix. They can not use any of the other works unless mentioned in LOTR or the Appendix which is why things are changed, or different. Blame Tolkien Estate for the inaccuracies.

    • @boatymcboatface666
      @boatymcboatface666 Рік тому +3

      @@kenziefonnesbeck99 then that just proves that this whole series is a travesty and should never had been made! No wonder those of us that love and respect Toliken's creation, despise this bs.

    • @bruceallenoatway
      @bruceallenoatway Рік тому

      A shame they didn't get access to the Simeralls...The writers are just doing whatever they want. Understanding that Hollywood process there's too many cooks in the kitchen. They could have at least borrowed Jackson's wig mistress.The Elven hair is way off in Brylcream land

  • @stevens26
    @stevens26 Рік тому +8

    I enjoyed your videos on this series I didn’t understand the first few episodes until I watched your summaries then got into the series

    • @davidmeszaros2120
      @davidmeszaros2120 Рік тому

      Read the book of Silmarils and You will understand not the just series, but EVERYTHING started with the creation of the world by Eru Iluvatar

  • @jackrobinson5201
    @jackrobinson5201 Рік тому +5

    I think Elrond was going to tell Galadriel, but you see that he spots the rings before he is about to. He loosens his grip on the scrolls and stays silent, the power of the rings ‘gifted’ by Sauron. Either clever directing or I’m inferring too much :)

  • @keithknows1809
    @keithknows1809 Рік тому +10

    The king of numinor thought Alicint was Rhaenyra, I don't know why, but something about that seems familiar...

  • @maxmillion6280
    @maxmillion6280 Рік тому +3

    SO MANY SUPPOSED READERS OF THE LORE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THE LOOP HOLES LEFT BY TOLKIEN ARE BEING WRITTEN NOW. none of the movies follow the books . Legolas was not in the hobbit , Aragon had an entire army of his people with him when he made the battle of Palenor fields in ROTK.
    Saurumon didnt die in the two towers. Just enjoy the fact we get to see.....

  • @mohammadidris5774
    @mohammadidris5774 Рік тому +71

    My theory is that The Stranger/Meteor Man is Gandalf but just not the one we are used to. This would be a Gandalf that is learning what's happening in Middle Earth and studying the situation there. I feel he will return to Valinor and come back to Middle Earth again as a wizard with the other 4 in the 3rd Age.

    • @oxxal7357
      @oxxal7357 Рік тому +3

      As we have seen with rings of power you can have any theory you want and it makes it canon when you say it. Fuck your theories and fuck this show. i kinda liked it until this season finale. When this hobo/gandalf said follow your nose i kinda lost it.

    • @mohammadidris5774
      @mohammadidris5774 Рік тому +17

      @@oxxal7357 i understand that you may not like it or disagree with my theory but who gives you the right to insult me?

    • @andres8900
      @andres8900 Рік тому +2

      I have the same feeling But, what if the Story continue 's and the stranger is not Gandalf but One of the Blue Wizards that would be a big surprise. There are so many people who are negative about this series just give it a chance.....

    • @jtfike
      @jtfike Рік тому

      @@mohammadidris5774 he didn’t insult you at all, snowflake. Not one single insult directed towards you. He was only complaining about the show.

    • @jtfike
      @jtfike Рік тому +1

      @@andres8900 people are negative because it sucks. People have given it a chance, hence the reason they are negative.

  • @shelleydwyer-murphy2281
    @shelleydwyer-murphy2281 Рік тому

    Thank you!

  • @SwivelHippie
    @SwivelHippie Рік тому

    Loved it

  • @Spartan-oj9dc
    @Spartan-oj9dc Рік тому +9

    The first season was quite a mixed bag in my opinion from ok to really quite bad in terms of dialogue and story . There were a couple of episodes that were really quite good in my opinion . I liked the final episode but what is lacking for me is the lack of magic . The whole point about the forged rings their powers are magical basically by enchantments. Sauron was trained as a Smith by the maiaar and he was also a sorcerer , so when he forged the one ring at mount doom , sauron put all his malice and evil into the ring by sorcery , his soul was in this ring which is what made the one ring so powerful that is could control the others . That is why when sauron had his finger cut off with the ring by ilsildur it destroyed saurons physical form . In the rings of power the three eleven rings we see forged in a physical sense in that the ores and mithril which is not lore gives the rings it's powerful properties which is not true . So hopefully in the second series they will bring in tolkiens magic into the series .

  • @thomaskg3802
    @thomaskg3802 Рік тому +5

    The Palantíri can in Númenor can only show one thing - The fall of Númenor. So we can assume that Eärien now knows.

  • @Fearinator
    @Fearinator Рік тому

    Loved it :)

  • @lowelotilano
    @lowelotilano Рік тому +126

    On episode three (30 min mark) Halbrand begs the blacksmith to give him work and even offered his service for free because he wants to start anew life in Numenor. This scene for me confirms that Sauron is definitely running away from darkness and just wants a chance to redeem himself, why would they even film that scene if it is not relevant. I've rewatched the whole show with the knowledge of Halbrand as Sauron , The redemption story actually fits perfectly. Also episode 8 (45 min mark) while Galadriel and Sauron talking on the raft, look closely at sauron's eye it becomes watery and evetually tears fell down, that I think he is telling the truth.

    • @joeyschinner4981
      @joeyschinner4981 Рік тому +60

      Sauron is literally known as the great deceiver. So it would be hard to prove.

    • @lowelotilano
      @lowelotilano Рік тому +9

      @@joeyschinner4981 Yes in the books. Its already given, everybody knows that already and it just so predictable what will happen next if thats the case. Wouldn't be interesting if they go for an original redemption story instead not limited to the tolkien legendarium, that way they can keep the viewers guessing what happens next purist and casual fans alike.

    • @fred4977
      @fred4977 Рік тому +7

      @@lowelotilano Yes, they could go for him still having a redemtion agenda with forces of good and evil fighting inside of him, and finallly after wearing the one ring for a while he ends up more on the evil side. But I find it difficult to pick up on that since he seemed pretty evil at the end of the finale. Him leaving Galadriel alive could be a sign of the goodness/redemtion agenda still being alive in him though.🤔

    • @SuperDaveP270
      @SuperDaveP270 Рік тому +7

      @Lowel Otilano - Then clearly you do not know wtf you are talking about.

    • @findingthatperfectspot4692
      @findingthatperfectspot4692 Рік тому +17

      @@fred4977 Or alternatively, him leaving Galadriel alive could be a sign that he still wants her for his queen. I don't think we've seen the last of that plot line yet.

  • @perrybarden3318
    @perrybarden3318 Рік тому +6

    With respect to the experts here, as I have not read the supporting lit for the books, I find it interesting that Gandalf did not get burnt in Moria when fighting the Balrog, which puzzled me at the time. His arrival in the fire in the meteor thing, again, not burnt. Another possible tell that the stranger is in fact Gandalf? And a Gandalf trying to figure himself out at that, and gain control of powers he already has, a language he already knows, like it was all instinctive.... faked me out though, Tom Bombadil was mentioned a few times in speculation as the stranger and the whole thing with the apples was odd. The writers seem to be having a blast with all this teasing us on.
    I liked the series but it did not grow on me well and its a bit graphic for my taste, wound up binge watching it till 3 am one night. Looking forward to a rewatch.
    Personally for me there are too many parallels indicating that the stranger is Gandalf. Characters are deepening as we go on, we are seeing more sides and more inner conflict, this is a sleeper show that is growing and I hope they take it all the way through and it gets a fan base.
    Lot of extremely good actors in this show including supporting roles. Must have been amazing for them to be in it.

    • @zf5567
      @zf5567 Рік тому

      I read the books sooo long ago but, I think they are both from the same original beings/spirit so hence, he can take it pretty much (=) something to that affect,

    • @shayrocket
      @shayrocket Рік тому

      Maybe Gandalf is a Targaryen? 🔥🐉
      🥸

  • @dannywild8838
    @dannywild8838 Рік тому +9

    Here is another clue for why the stranger could be Gandalf:
    The Mystics say that the fire is bending on his will. Combined with his lightblow from the staff it reminded me of one scene in LotR 1.
    Remember, when Gandalf fought Balrog on the bridge in Moria and what he said to him? That's exactly the same thing we got told in this episode.

    • @oakpope
      @oakpope Рік тому

      Gandalf had the ring of Fire during that time.

    • @dannywild8838
      @dannywild8838 Рік тому

      @@oakpope ohh, I didn't knew that 😁

    • @endlessstudent3512
      @endlessstudent3512 Рік тому

      Except Gandalf wasn't alive at that point of time. Series plays in the second age. Gandalf first showed up in the third age, so roundabout 1.000 years later. But considering, that the Nazgul were human kings that got corrupted by the rings they were wearing, it also makes no sense at all to have them stalking around the woods looking like female Eminem before the rings even existed. So nothing in the show has anything to do with what Tolkien wrote.

    • @dannywild8838
      @dannywild8838 Рік тому

      @@endlessstudent3512 Exactly that. I would have said otherwise that he wasn't just know at the second Age as Gandalf and over the time he becomes him. We'll see what the producers will fabricate here in the future

    • @klauskleber4001
      @klauskleber4001 Рік тому

      @@dannywild8838 but if they reley on the books. the first one who arrive wasnt gandalf it was saruman. curumo(Curunir)((Saruman)) was the first of them not Olorin(mithrandir.(Gandalf))

  • @61head
    @61head Рік тому

    Well done!

  • @dellymify
    @dellymify Рік тому +2

    I'm more convinced it's one of the blue wizards as he wants to get to rhun and in lotr gandalf states he's known by many names in middle earth, the east I have not set foot in though.
    Also in the scene with norri he mentions there many wizards/istari with stories to tell some here already, some still yet to come. (Along those lines as I recall)
    And as for the gandalf plot point, its a big show captivating point to gather attention n familiar surrounding with a such well known character, as you'll note with the LOTR Easter eggs. Which means in season 2 if the writers turn around and say he's a blue wizard it will generate new hype and attention around the show and yet again peak interest.

  • @MrEasterrabbit
    @MrEasterrabbit Рік тому +12

    I think sauron stole the mithril to forge the one ring. Seen at 18:45 in the last episode

    • @Daniel-gf5cr
      @Daniel-gf5cr Рік тому +1

      No they put it in the three elven rings

    • @MrEasterrabbit
      @MrEasterrabbit Рік тому

      @@Daniel-gf5cr Only the big chunk

    • @Daniel-gf5cr
      @Daniel-gf5cr Рік тому

      @@MrEasterrabbit I thought the other part was just a piece of rock? I dont really think the Mithril will make a big difference as Sauron pours his soul into the ring

  • @saiyanbob666
    @saiyanbob666 Рік тому +3

    Nori stated the mystics called him by Gandalf's Mair name "Olórin" in the season finale. Although she mispronounced it, it confirms he is Gandalf.

  • @tracynickels164
    @tracynickels164 Рік тому

    I Loved It!

  • @yowdhann7134
    @yowdhann7134 Рік тому +1

    Honestly, i really love it

  • @danieldominguez8135
    @danieldominguez8135 Рік тому +5

    Loved your videos all season! Thankyou for being objective, respectful and professional.

  • @Eunacis
    @Eunacis Рік тому +14

    It seems to me that they've retconned it so that the rings are forged in the order they're mentioned in the song.
    I expect Sauron might give the rings as payment for the mythril used to make them and then have his great success with corrupting the kings of men before getting yoinked back to Numenor and getting everyone wet.

  • @TraceyanneMcCartney
    @TraceyanneMcCartney Рік тому

    I loved it!

  • @b.p.879
    @b.p.879 10 місяців тому +2

    I assumed the Stranger is Gandolf because it would make sense that he would come to visit the hobbits later in life after they helped him in the second age (in Rings of Power).

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 Рік тому +20

    House of the dragon= Chess
    Rings of power= Checkers

  • @jannn6692
    @jannn6692 Рік тому +13

    Guys, the stranger is using the same line from LOTR 'When in doubt, always follow your nose” you really think they 're going to let him say that if it wasn't Gandalf..

    • @jeepsblackpowderandlights4305
      @jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Рік тому +1

      gandalf also likes halflings the most.. Hairfoots are haflings.. They protected him.. this explains why he likes them

    • @seiriosnub
      @seiriosnub Рік тому

      @@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Gandalf also famously mentions of kindness and other simple things in life while talking with Galadriel in FOTR. Probably referring to the ways of Hobbits.

  • @alej1dp
    @alej1dp Рік тому

    That "destroy it" had me weak 🤣🤣🤣

  • @dasritzoo9234
    @dasritzoo9234 Рік тому +1

    I'm just happy to be in this world again. It's not perfect, but I'm enjoying it.

  • @fireflithewitch
    @fireflithewitch Рік тому +28

    Sauron already has the mithril he needs for the one ring, he chipped it off in the last episode 👀

  • @MrT-xq4yb
    @MrT-xq4yb Рік тому +12

    Next season I think we will see Pelargir, Rhun as new locations. King Khamul of Rhun may be introduced, Anarion may be in Pelargir, and Isildur may find his way there as well. I wonder if Sauron will have a hand directly in crafting the other rings, or if it will simply be Celebrimbor using too much of his techniques for them to be tainted. Possibly more shady business with Kemen and Pharazon. Will they manage to corrupt Elendils daughter as well? If there are more guessing games in season two, it will be about who gets the nine rings, and who will be the WitchKing. My money is on the heavy built smithing dude, who said She-Elf. It seems that characters saying lines from LOTR is a thing in this show, and when he said she-elf like the Witch King, there was definately some foreshadowing there.

    • @ds1868
      @ds1868 Рік тому +1

      Sauron assisted in the making of the Seven and the Nine but had no involvement at all with the Three.

    • @marikka9347
      @marikka9347 Рік тому

      Not that the writers care too much about lore, but the heavy built Smith is not exactly what you'd call a great king, sorcer, or power player of men.

  • @ty_franklin
    @ty_franklin Рік тому

    Thank you Think Story!!! Amazing breakdown, really appreciate and look forward to your videos every week!

  • @jamesfitzgerald5875
    @jamesfitzgerald5875 Рік тому +18

    Man. This channel is the only time in ten years on UA-cam I repeatedly checked to see if a video was dropped over and over and over lol.
    I love LOTR and even tho I’m not sold on this series I’m still in love with it because it’s LOTR.
    Thank you sir for your effort in what you do.

  • @nolan8424
    @nolan8424 Рік тому +60

    I’m wondering how the the dwarves and mens rings will be created? Whether or not Sauron will have to take on an elf form to help celebrimbor make them?

    • @nickgreen4731
      @nickgreen4731 Рік тому +11

      I think 'Halbrand' will return to see Celebrimbor, who will let him in (not knowing he is Sauron).

    • @josh29221
      @josh29221 Рік тому +15

      @@nickgreen4731 yeah this is what i'm expecting as well. Annatar but probably under a different name since Amazon doesn't have the rights to Annatar (big thanks to Chris Tolkien making this show a fuckton harder to make than it should've been)

    • @boatymcboatface666
      @boatymcboatface666 Рік тому +10

      @@josh29221 then clearly should not have been made! It's a complete dumpster fire 🔥

    • @boatymcboatface666
      @boatymcboatface666 Рік тому +6

      @@nickgreen4731 how could he not know, now "Galadriel" knows and Elrond suspects something not right? This whole series is a mockery of Tolkien.

    • @bryancadents3559
      @bryancadents3559 Рік тому +5

      I think the Dwarves will make their own rings. They're good craftsmen, they have the mithril, they just need Sauron to show them. The Elves now have the Three, so they don't need the mithril anymore, and Sauron will convince the Dwarves they'll be behind the times and eventually subservient to the Elves if they don't keep up.
      Sauron will probably craft the Nine rings of Men himself. Plenty of Men showed they were perfectly willing to be ruled by Sauron, and the Southlanders went nuts when they got Halbrand/Sauron. They'll probably be perfectly happy to take the rings offered by Sauron when he tells them they'll need them to keep up with the Dwarves, Elves, and keep them safe from enemies like Adar. The eruption of Mount Doom will be too fresh on the minds of Men, they'll take the power when it's offered to them by their "king".

  • @erikwhite3651
    @erikwhite3651 Рік тому

    This is the best free software Ive seen. Respect.

  • @MrMegafly2011
    @MrMegafly2011 5 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic first season can’t wait for the rest

  • @Nepthu
    @Nepthu Рік тому +4

    I'm confused about what Sauron did prior to the show. Why was he a known evil already? Why'd he want Elven Rings made? How exactly do the rings keep that rot away? What was the rot?

    • @nicolekane623
      @nicolekane623 Рік тому +1

      So basically in the war Galadriel mentions in the beginning, they weren't mainly against Sauron, but Morgoth. Think of Sauron as like a Lucifer figure, he was a "angel" (or something close to it, Lord of the RIngs version) who fell from grace and worked with Morgoth against Elven forces in their big war when they got to Middle Earth, so he's a known evil because he was basically Morgoth's corrupted angel second in command. When Morgoth was defeated Sauron got away.
      Sauron didn't actually want the Eleven Rings made! He wanted to create the Ring (like THE ring, that one) because, like it's stated in the main series, that ring would make him uber powerful.
      So on the next parts honestly I'm not too knowledgable because the show diverges from book canon for it. The Elven Rings, in short, are Good. They give the Elves power, and as it shows in the lord of the rings trilogy, the elves were the only race to be able to control that power and have restraint. I think the rot is akin to the slow dying the elves experienced in Lord of the Rings, where when they get too far from their homeland they begin to die out, so the rings keep away the rot because it returned the power back to them.

  • @hilltop9524
    @hilltop9524 Рік тому +3

    My second guess for the Istar is one of the two blue, they're known to have moved East and stayed there (I think).

    • @avimohan6738
      @avimohan6738 Рік тому

      Given that both LOTR and the Hobbit gave almost no screentime to the Blue Wizards, this would actually be a good twist.

  • @calvin20877
    @calvin20877 Рік тому +1

    Loved this season ❤️ 👏 🙌🏻

  • @bryancadents3559
    @bryancadents3559 Рік тому +2

    Sauron/Halbrand will likely form an alliance with Durin IV, who is becoming estranged from his father King Durin III, to gain access to the mithril in Khazad-Dum (and eventually the awakening of the Balrog which will be Durin's downfall). Durin IV will exchange mithril in return for Sauron showing them how to craft their 7 rings of power. There could be several hooks to this - one being Sauron telling the Dwarves that the Elves no longer need their mithril because they've crafted the Three, and the Dwarves will need to keep up lest they be eclipsed by the Elves and their newfound power.
    Sauron would then also be able to make the Nine rings to be given to Men. Judging by the reaction of the Southlanders to Halbrand, men are desperate to have a strong king to follow and probably wouldn't hesitate to take the Nine rings to help put them more on par with the powers of the elves and dwarves, and to "protect" them from foes like Adar. We also know that many Men in the Southlands were happy to remain loyal to Sauron. I wouldn't be surprised if Waldreg turns on Adar when he meets Sauron/Halbrand, and Waldreg ends up becoming one of the Nine. I also wouldn't be surprised if Adar eventually becomes the Mouth of Sauron - his tongue is silky enough, he's not quite orc and not quite elf, he fits the bill in many ways.
    Interesting that Galadriel doesn't reveal that Halbrand is Sauron to Celebrimbor and Elrond. In the books, Celebrimbor eventually discovers what Sauron is planning with the One and somehow enchants the Three so that they'll remain hidden. The Nine become the Ringwraiths and the Seven dwarf rings are either collected by Sauron or destroyed by dragons.
    Ar-Pharazon is known to be the last king of Numenor. We know from the literature that Sauron somehow convinces Ar-Pharazon that he should attack the Undying Lands and take immortality for themselves... which results in the massive cataclysm that destroys Numenor. Elendil and the Faithful will remain loyal to Queen Miriel, and they'll be spared from Numenor's destruction. Elendil will be made king at some point by Miriel, and will establish the kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor. They will eventually form the Last Alliance with the Elves to fight Sauron and the One.
    I don't know where they're going with the Gandalf thing. Nothing in the books, to my knowledge, suggests Gandalf was living in the second age at all. We know he says the third age was his age, so I'm not sure where they're going with this. All I can think of is the Blue Wizards are once referenced to be somewhere in the far east. I can only speculate the wizards are going to meet up and eventually form the White Council.

    • @naturefleur2062
      @naturefleur2062 Рік тому

      Ah, I could see this twist happen. It will be interesting to see if it does play out that way.

    • @naturefleur2062
      @naturefleur2062 Рік тому

      And I really would enjoy seeing the Blue Wizards brought in to the story line in next season. It seems likely due to the direction that Gandalf and Nori set off in.

    • @naturefleur2062
      @naturefleur2062 Рік тому

      The twist meaning how Sauron uses deception and division and greed and paranoia to get the dwarves and men to create rings to compete for power with each other. I can see that happening. Great insights here.

    • @bryancadents3559
      @bryancadents3559 Рік тому

      @@naturefleur2062 You're probably right, considering the Blue Wizards are the only unexplored wizard characters in the lore (at least on screen). If Gandalf is around, surely we'll meet Saruman and Radagast at some point too.

  • @d.7416
    @d.7416 Рік тому +7

    I think it's funny that everybody is like 'im rooting for Sauron at this point' or 'he is so much more likeable than xyz'. Well yes?! That's actually the point and it does show that the series did a good job after all. Read the Silmarillion guys. He was fair, beautiful, charming, smart, convincing, deceitful and manipulating with words of kindness and wisdom while many Elves (of middle earth, not Valinor) were fighting, proud, selfish and even cruel in that age... I really liked the show.

  • @kennethnash598
    @kennethnash598 Рік тому +8

    Remember Gandalf went through a color change, starting as Gandalf the grey then becoming Gandalf the White. What if Gandalf and Saruman started as the blue wizards and explored the far east. They returned to Valinor after their exploration. They were then sent back as the wizards we know.

    • @martiniostramoga
      @martiniostramoga Рік тому +4

      that‘s at least not canon, the blue wizards seemed to have existed besides Saruman and Gandalf

    • @Holy_hand-grenade
      @Holy_hand-grenade Рік тому

      Pretty clear in the canon there are 5 Istari

  • @SmartKidsRiddles
    @SmartKidsRiddles Рік тому +1

    We enjoyed it.

  • @moviekris0426
    @moviekris0426 Рік тому +2

    2:45 “He’s Sauron” “Why do you say that?” “Cause he’s hot” 😂

  • @folorunsoayomide4476
    @folorunsoayomide4476 Рік тому +3

    Watching this will make the fellowship of the rings,the two towers,and the return of the kings more meaningful and interesting even though it already was

    • @gilesholt1382
      @gilesholt1382 Рік тому

      It really doesn't because it's not canon, the characters and their background don't follow tolkiens work, so they don't relate to the developed characters in the lord of the rings trilogy.

  • @nonagrey3422
    @nonagrey3422 Рік тому +21

    the problem is the writers don't have to get around anything because Tolkien's lore means nothing to them so there's nothing to get around.

  • @fernandom.6534
    @fernandom.6534 Рік тому

    I loved and enjoyed every episode

  • @donmcl2659
    @donmcl2659 Рік тому

    Loved it.........

  • @marysgalan
    @marysgalan Рік тому +23

    Very good video! Super objective and profissional! No unnecessary opinions about it. This show has been so torn apart..,its just nice to see it how it will be developed.

    • @yanami1241
      @yanami1241 Рік тому +6

      this show belongs to the trashcan

    • @user-jj4pm2wr6o
      @user-jj4pm2wr6o Рік тому +1

      @@yanami1241 why do you think that

    • @marysgalan
      @marysgalan Рік тому +4

      @@yanami1241 very simple....dont watch it!

    • @tioswift3676
      @tioswift3676 Рік тому

      @@user-jj4pm2wr6o because he watched Nerdrotic and RK outpost and others who spoon fed their opinions to him, he’s just repeating it as nauseam.

    • @user-jj4pm2wr6o
      @user-jj4pm2wr6o Рік тому

      @@tioswift3676 well some people did decide they weren't going to like it before they even watched the show i think because of the changes from the book that really had to be made. there are book changes that annoy me but the ones in this show really don't bother

  • @thomabow8949
    @thomabow8949 Рік тому +46

    The actor playing Sauron/Halbrand, as well as the showrunners, in recent interviews following the premier have commented and name dropped Annator, saying that while Season 1 had to have mystery and exposition, they understood the fans were expecting a certain storyline to happen, and they said that Season 2 is where that will be explored

  • @jbdsweet4186
    @jbdsweet4186 Рік тому

    I loved loved this last episode!

  • @benscadden
    @benscadden Рік тому

    Brilliant video, thank you. I loved the series. Your overview was really helpful to watch afterwards.

  • @HInc7647
    @HInc7647 Рік тому +4

    Sauron is fit - I’d follow him if he looked like that in human form 😝

  • @deadinside777
    @deadinside777 Рік тому +4

    Nothing in the show is canon, so it's silly to compare it to the book timeline. It's its own show, just based on Tolkien's work

  • @MichaelGarcia03
    @MichaelGarcia03 Рік тому +1

    sauron has one of the most menacing and coolest look for a villain in all of fiction

  • @anonymousannoyingmouse
    @anonymousannoyingmouse Рік тому

    woho!
    "so, it begins!"
    youtube notifications i m ready

  • @HomeChefRichie
    @HomeChefRichie Рік тому +4

    Regarding Halbrand as Sauron and clues... at 4:32 there is a closeup of Halbrand in a rage, I believe I see his eyes very "Sauron-Like" even if not the color of fire... That tipped it off for me.

  • @carolined5001
    @carolined5001 Рік тому +28

    Great recap and explanation! Can't wait for 2nd season!

  • @majorlouis956
    @majorlouis956 Рік тому

    I,m loving it big time , Roll on season 2

  • @klaushu7547
    @klaushu7547 Рік тому

    gosh, the true classic T-shirt ad was rather good. I watched the whole of it

  • @benbousa901
    @benbousa901 Рік тому +5

    It's Gandalf. He used the same quote from the trilogies. "Always follow your nose"

    • @Onous
      @Onous Рік тому +1

      It's Radagast the Brown. He came before Gandalf and was an angelic wizard. If this push Gandalf this early they just killed the series even more then they already have.
      Gandalf comes way way later in the story. Sauruman is also a possibility because as well shows up long before Gandalf.

    • @1337soundeZ
      @1337soundeZ Рік тому

      @@Onous He looks nothing like radagast

    • @1337soundeZ
      @1337soundeZ Рік тому

      @@Onous the qoute "Always follow your nose" gave it away, its gandalf

  • @JIMvc2
    @JIMvc2 Рік тому +3

    I think for season 2 we’ll see some conflict in Mordor. And Sauron going to lands to convince people to join him. Numenor could be destroyed but what cool is the dark color flags. That mimics there armor from the prologue of Battle of Last Alliance. I’m sure we’ll get cool battles between the elves and Mordor.
    Great view and good points :)
    You earned new subscriber 😁👍🏻

  • @burkles4456
    @burkles4456 Рік тому

    When I first saw the stranger I was sooo excited that we get Gandalfs (possibly?) origin. He looks like him tbh.

  • @davidquick7564
    @davidquick7564 4 місяці тому +1

    Okay the stranger is probably Gandalf. But I am still hopeful of it being Saruman. Being that he was sent by the Valar to challenge Sauron would bring it together. An yes in the end he was a power hungry villain. But he was not always. An going back this far could explain a lot of his fondness of Gandalf. Perhaps sees a version of his younger self? An maybe Saruman an the harfoots have less than a great goodbye. Would explain his lack of trust or interest in hobbits.

  • @Cambryn18
    @Cambryn18 Рік тому +8

    I don’t know maybe it’s me but I felt like Sauron didn’t star as a bad guy, and I felt that he really cared about Galadriel even thou he had a misconception of between healing and rulling. Maybe be it’s the ring which later makes his master completely evil

    • @Cambryn18
      @Cambryn18 Рік тому +2

      @TheTribal Kid yes you are right, he never lied to Galadriel, she assumed because those assumptions helped her get what she wanted, that was going back to middle earth. I think that Sauron would have been content to remain in Numenor at least for a time.

    • @annikaki8305
      @annikaki8305 Рік тому +5

      I think maybe he is so good at manipulating that nobody realized that he has his own plans behind his sad masquerade.

    • @PsyQoBoy
      @PsyQoBoy Рік тому +5

      No Sauron is a bad person. The word you have to use is "manipulate" . It's better to have strong companions than a dead enemy.
      He manipulated the Elves to create the Three rings. Needed to blend in to see what was on the other side and see how he get the ring to rule them all.

    • @Cambryn18
      @Cambryn18 Рік тому +2

      @@annikaki8305 maybe, but personally I want to believe that no every part or every person is evil, evil is made no born, and we all have capacity for good, so he must have some too right?

    • @Cambryn18
      @Cambryn18 Рік тому

      @@PsyQoBoy yeah maybe but I really like the idea that he is not all bad that would make the story more complex. A villain that is likeable 😅

  • @temporarilyUnknown
    @temporarilyUnknown Рік тому +18

    It’s saruman! Saruman spent time in the East. The Aesthetic says, “he is the other” referring to Aule’s other associated maiar, saruman. He’s also the first Istari to arrive after the blue wizards. I also think the blue wizards were in episode 1 walking East with the elk antlers…

    • @benjeffery9958
      @benjeffery9958 Рік тому +1

      So glad someone has said it and I'm surprised no one has as much... it has to be saruman

    • @jannn6692
      @jannn6692 Рік тому

      It's not. Why would they let 'saruman' use the exact same line as Gandalf in LOTR if not refering to Gandalf.. that would be crazy. 'When in doubt, always follow your nose”

    • @temporarilyUnknown
      @temporarilyUnknown Рік тому

      @@jannn6692 they could set up Saruman saying that to a freshly arrived Gandalf in season 4 or 5… they want you to think it’s Gandalf is all I’m saying.

    • @jannn6692
      @jannn6692 Рік тому

      Let him say the exact same words as Gandalf and then it wouldn't be Gandalf would be such a strange decision to make for the writers, would't make sense at all.

    • @benjeffery9958
      @benjeffery9958 Рік тому

      @@jannn6692 when did this series make much sense in terms of timeline etc anyway... gandalf doesn't arrive until the third age to middle earth so it's a bit distorted regardless

  • @MrMkim
    @MrMkim Рік тому +1

    Love the show

  • @shadesofjade
    @shadesofjade Рік тому +1

    ‘Stranger’ is freaking Gandalf. He said the thing about how ‘the nose knows’ or something. That’s a Gandalf saying.

  • @stephenthompson8373
    @stephenthompson8373 Рік тому +120

    I can't wait for season 2. I loved this series. I was correct about the stranger all along - I never believed he was Sauron. I still think he is Gandalf.

    • @empac8631
      @empac8631 Рік тому +9

      I think he’s Gandalf too, even the way he starts talking once he gets more of his mind back was very Gandalfish

    • @devanman7920
      @devanman7920 Рік тому +13

      God I thought it was mostly shite

    • @ivanjerganoff280
      @ivanjerganoff280 Рік тому +4

      If only they did not drag Tolkien's work into it.

    • @martinrehout9121
      @martinrehout9121 Рік тому +10

      100% he’s Gandalf - ‘always follow your nose’

    • @markkulke4551
      @markkulke4551 Рік тому +3

      Dear god, there’s going to be a second season. FFS