The search is for seaching values in the game to detect changes in the memory and attempt to change them. The same way we've hex edited game for decades, including trainers.
The SDB would probably be used for: 1. When swapping out a battery in a cartridge, you lose all save data. This way you can keep your progress if you need to change it out. Some re-sellers see it as a bonus to have old saves as well. 2. You need to sell a game but want to keep your progress in case you get another copy. 3. You share the cartridge and do not want to risk your saves being written over or deleted by the other person. 4. You have a really good save and want to trade with or give someone a head start.
Yeah all good cases. I also think another one would be to add essentially an extra save slot or more to a pokemon game since they only have one. Sort of like a backup but you can choose from multiple files to upload.
@@turkysanwtch This is true, I forgot you only got one. Was thinking you got 3 for some reason when thinking about Pokémon for use cases lol. Also considered using it to send yourself items or Pokémon over and over by using a second copy of the game.
First reason can only apply in part though. Most GBA games used the more advanced FRAM that didn't require batteries any longer. But some games still had old-fashioned volatile SRAM (and there are games where some units had SRAM, and some had FRAM (depending on availability at the time, one must assume))
probably the most common use for the save backup thing is more like, copy the save data, trade all my good pokemon from emerald to ruby, then restore the save so now they're on both games, or copy my save, do some gameshark stuff that might break the game, but have a backup just in case, lol
That's what I like to do (trade pokemon and then restore a save). Working on a living 'dex so backing up saves is a godsend. At the rate I'm going, will be long dead before I could even get close to completing it.
19:05 Suggestion, make a copy of the floppy and upload it to the web archive for anyone that might need it in the future, judging from the icon of the app, it's a self-extract file created with winrar or similar and should be possible to extract without actually running it.
I had a game shark for GBC growing up, when i saw the shark logo and the floppy disk i yelled at the screen that its a gameshark clone but you didnt hear me.
For 1. Loaning out your games to friends and family 2. Back up your save to start a new game fresh without loosing your old save 3. Backing up your saves at home in case your gameboy gets stolen or your game cartridge gets damaged
I’ve missed you ❤ 😂 man I love your videos been a fan since 2021 I remember first stumbling on your videos while my wife was in the hospital after giving birth and out of no where I started getting into handhelds . This was during the time you reviewed emulation handhelds 🔥
The backup tool would've been neat just to have different save files in pokemon. They only ever allowed you one save file so you wouldn't want to restart without a good reason.
11:51 That search function seems to me like a RAM/save value search. You can look for changed values in the games memory, to identify the places where important game information is stored(like HP, remaining lives, etc.), somewhat like CheatEngine on a computer.
oh hey! i have a save backup device like that, but for GB/GBC! i got it to backup pokemon saves, and i use it a ton. its great insurance against cart battery death induced save deletion, and it allows me to essentially have multiple save files per cart. wanna do a nuzlocke run? lending your game to a friend? just feel like fucking around in a fresh save for an afternoon? i can just backup my save to be restored later. its been an invaluable tool. for pokemon specifically, its also a fun way to clone pokemon. backup your save, trade the pokemon you want to clone to a different game, restore your save and bam! youve now got 2 of that pokemon. i can see it being a godsend for families where siblings share games that normally only have one save slot too.
i generate backups of my Pokemon games before migrating Pokemon to a more recent gen, so i can restore the save after migrating and still have my save as it was before migrating
That is correct, restoring a backup will bring you back to when the backup was made. This means you could transfer any number of mons off the game post backup, and restore back to get them back. Not a conventional way of cloning mons, but it works.
i gotta say i have to respect that you didn't use the rubber covers to try and fluff up the runtime. others would have spent at least 3 mins talking about them and use cases.
That SAGAME cartridge looks like the equivalent of the MonsterBrain Game Accessory that let you hack Pokemon games. I have fond memories of my level 100 Shiny Tauros with 4 different beam attacks lol.
save backup was probably useful if you let a friend borrow your game for example, they could start a new save. Also cant believe you've never heard of Game Shark. "Sagame" is a play on "Same", the japanese word for Shark, and Game. GameShark, a popular cheat device in the early 2000s
I have a Gameboy SP with the exact color, but mine is beat up scratched up the screen has burn in, i misplaced the backplate and the battery swole so idek if it works anymore.
You can potentially transfer the save file from the French version to English one. Your Pokemon would keep their French names, but it would otherwise work perfectly.
There was an AUS only dark green SP/emerald bundle that I got in California USA in 2006 from a target. At the time I didn’t know about it being rare it was just the perfect pokemon game boy bundle. In 2020 after getting back into Pokémon I tried to repurchase the same SP I used to own which is how I learned it was an AUS only color way I had
I saw one Surf Blue SP at the St-Eustach fleas market in Quebec, Canada. The seller told me it was a Walmart special edition, he was asking 300$ for it. He also had an imported 4 in 1 Donkey Kong Country Boardgame, the box was soo cool :')
if you ever care to figure out what the previous owner of the SDB was up to, that game id looks like it matches "SD Gundam G Generation Advance" and if you found a copy of it you could pick up right where they left off
catch rare pokemon, backup save, implant save on another cart, use that cart in another gameboy to trade a 2nd rare pokemon on first cart.. rinse repeat, bam! fighting team made up of 6 mewtwo's or yeah, keep save safe for battery swaps, corrupted carts, etc.
I wonder if Sagame was like a JP branch of Gameshark, that was immediately what I thought of when seeing the logo, the fact it's also a cheat device seems a little coincidental but could just be.
1:02 You should be able to back up ANY software you have purchased as long as you are not selling the backups. If the consumer does not have that basic right, then what would stop companies from just developing physical media that degrades faster over shorter time frames causing you to have to purchase the software again and again. This is why they push so hard for a digital only world so they can just say you do not own anything, and you have only paid for a long-term rental....cough, cough sony....cough. If purchasing is not ownership, then piracy is not stealing. LONG LIVE PHYSICAL MEDIA!!
I'm so glad Ashens swooped in and fixed the biggest problem in the video: not properly showing the rubber covers in action.
The search is for seaching values in the game to detect changes in the memory and attempt to change them. The same way we've hex edited game for decades, including trainers.
Oh yeah the same way cheatengine works no? I may have used that a lot back in the day
The SDB would probably be used for:
1. When swapping out a battery in a cartridge, you lose all save data. This way you can keep your progress if you need to change it out. Some re-sellers see it as a bonus to have old saves as well.
2. You need to sell a game but want to keep your progress in case you get another copy.
3. You share the cartridge and do not want to risk your saves being written over or deleted by the other person.
4. You have a really good save and want to trade with or give someone a head start.
It's also for just in case something happens to your cartridge
Yeah all good cases. I also think another one would be to add essentially an extra save slot or more to a pokemon game since they only have one. Sort of like a backup but you can choose from multiple files to upload.
@@turkysanwtch This is true, I forgot you only got one. Was thinking you got 3 for some reason when thinking about Pokémon for use cases lol. Also considered using it to send yourself items or Pokémon over and over by using a second copy of the game.
@@BlazingKhioneus That is fair, he said that one so did not want to be too redundant.
First reason can only apply in part though. Most GBA games used the more advanced FRAM that didn't require batteries any longer. But some games still had old-fashioned volatile SRAM (and there are games where some units had SRAM, and some had FRAM (depending on availability at the time, one must assume))
Ashens has been my favorite youtuber since 2006. Always happy to see him pop up.
Thanks for the surprise Ashens episode, David.
probably the most common use for the save backup thing is more like, copy the save data, trade all my good pokemon from emerald to ruby, then restore the save so now they're on both games, or copy my save, do some gameshark stuff that might break the game, but have a backup just in case, lol
That's what I like to do (trade pokemon and then restore a save). Working on a living 'dex so backing up saves is a godsend. At the rate I'm going, will be long dead before I could even get close to completing it.
ashens collab out of nowhere, wild.
Another "wild" NPC bot comment. Next say something "crazy" and call my comment "diabolical". Useless bot 🙄
19:05 Suggestion, make a copy of the floppy and upload it to the web archive for anyone that might need it in the future, judging from the icon of the app, it's a self-extract file created with winrar or similar and should be possible to extract without actually running it.
How do though? I ask as someone who used floppy disks a tiny bit for them old huge chunky 90's Apple laptops.
If I didn't own an Action Replay in the 90s I too wouldn't have a clue how this thing worked...
I had a game shark for GBC growing up, when i saw the shark logo and the floppy disk i yelled at the screen that its a gameshark clone but you didnt hear me.
He's called Dr. Ashen for a reason. Absolute mad lad, big brain.
For 1. Loaning out your games to friends and family
2. Back up your save to start a new game fresh without loosing your old save
3. Backing up your saves at home in case your gameboy gets stolen or your game cartridge gets damaged
I’ve missed you ❤ 😂 man I love your videos been a fan since 2021 I remember first stumbling on your videos while my wife was in the hospital after giving birth and out of no where I started getting into handhelds . This was during the time you reviewed emulation handhelds 🔥
Huh... So that's what a Japanese GameShark/ActionReplay looked like. Very cool find!
The backup tool would've been neat just to have different save files in pokemon. They only ever allowed you one save file so you wouldn't want to restart without a good reason.
and trading duplications of ur best to friends /selling i sold a mew once for 50p 😁proud moment lol!
I look away for 2 mins and when I come back Ashens is on my screen??
Fire.
David kinda looks like Elliot. 🤔😂
I guess the most useful thing about the savedatabank is that you could save you save file before switching the battery on the cart.
11:51 That search function seems to me like a RAM/save value search. You can look for changed values in the games memory, to identify the places where important game information is stored(like HP, remaining lives, etc.), somewhat like CheatEngine on a computer.
oh hey! i have a save backup device like that, but for GB/GBC! i got it to backup pokemon saves, and i use it a ton. its great insurance against cart battery death induced save deletion, and it allows me to essentially have multiple save files per cart.
wanna do a nuzlocke run? lending your game to a friend? just feel like fucking around in a fresh save for an afternoon? i can just backup my save to be restored later. its been an invaluable tool.
for pokemon specifically, its also a fun way to clone pokemon. backup your save, trade the pokemon you want to clone to a different game, restore your save and bam! youve now got 2 of that pokemon.
i can see it being a godsend for families where siblings share games that normally only have one save slot too.
Imagine asking Ashens to review a cartridge and you watch the footage he sends back and it starts with him burying a game boy in his garden.
that save editor has shown us all you've never used cheat engine on pc before 😂😂🤣🤣
Or never heard of a Gameshark XD and I don't think that's emulation teaching me.
You're a creative genius, no joke!
Yoooooooo that Ashens cameo took me by surprise, but I'm loving it.
A cheat device with a shark logo? Unheard of!
kids today...
wait is the shark thing a "cheat engine" program for the gba. thats pretty awesome.
Okay I wasn't expecting Ashens. 10/10
i generate backups of my Pokemon games before migrating Pokemon to a more recent gen, so i can restore the save after migrating and still have my save as it was before migrating
That is correct, restoring a backup will bring you back to when the backup was made. This means you could transfer any number of mons off the game post backup, and restore back to get them back. Not a conventional way of cloning mons, but it works.
Ashens crossover hype!!!
i gotta say i have to respect that you didn't use the rubber covers to try and fluff up the runtime. others would have spent at least 3 mins talking about them and use cases.
A random Ashens cameo!
10/10
The random cut to Ashens was perfect lol
Floppy disk flopping out was genuinely funny.
not fully related to todays items, but the egg-grip is one of the most hilarious accessories i have ever seen in my life - i want one of those so bad😂
I was not expecting Ashens in a video on this channel but here we are
didn't expect to find ashens at the end
Try GBA minecraft.
He already did long back
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Hahaha I did not expect an Ashens intermission. Amazing.
hope you the retro future are well-your video is very entertaining and well made and has good energy
The modern version of back-up are game save states that one can use on a flash cart like a Everdrive or Analogue Pocket.
I watched this twice and it still hits!
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I like the Ashens crossover, also my cousin had a og gameshark for the gba.
That SAGAME cartridge looks like the equivalent of the MonsterBrain Game Accessory that let you hack Pokemon games. I have fond memories of my level 100 Shiny Tauros with 4 different beam attacks lol.
ASHENS!!!!!!!! ♥
YEYYYYYYY!!! New RetroFuture vids is always exciting!!!!!!
Love the collaboration...
Keep it up gents!
Wow, random Ashens. This video has everything.
save backup was probably useful if you let a friend borrow your game for example, they could start a new save. Also cant believe you've never heard of Game Shark. "Sagame" is a play on "Same", the japanese word for Shark, and Game. GameShark, a popular cheat device in the early 2000s
Elliot gameboy content is my happy place 😂
I have a Gameboy SP with the exact color, but mine is beat up scratched up the screen has burn in, i misplaced the backplate and the battery swole so idek if it works anymore.
Oh and then the Voice Over!! Just gets better 😂
It's a GameShark it has a shark on it cause it's a GameShark come-on guys
Not exactly. What he has is more of a rudimentary save editor.
You can potentially transfer the save file from the French version to English one. Your Pokemon would keep their French names, but it would otherwise work perfectly.
There was an AUS only dark green SP/emerald bundle that I got in California USA in 2006 from a target. At the time I didn’t know about it being rare it was just the perfect pokemon game boy bundle. In 2020 after getting back into Pokémon I tried to repurchase the same SP I used to own which is how I learned it was an AUS only color way I had
Great stuff as always, David!
Just imagine, to have these when we were younger
I did not expect The Doctor. And, well, I didn't get him, but I did not expect Dr. Ashen(s) either.
That Gametech GBA Save Data device has nearly the exact same shape/case as my old GBAMP media player that uses Compact Flash (CF) cards. Cool.
All my favorite British youtubers are friends. I swear your island is about 2 miles across.
Awesome video, I can always count on you for high quality content
You could use the backup to restore the game data after replacing the battery
It's insane how much Gameboy cheat devices cost now
About as much as the console itself
These videos are always somehow a banger
Show me in law where making game backups for your own personal use is illegal. I will wait
Keep up the good work love your vids and hope to see many more
THE ONE WITH THE SHARK IS A GAME SHARK
Game shark was so cool back in the day
That's a pretty sweet t-shirt you're wearing.
I saw one Surf Blue SP at the St-Eustach fleas market in Quebec, Canada. The seller told me it was a Walmart special edition, he was asking 300$ for it. He also had an imported 4 in 1 Donkey Kong Country Boardgame, the box was soo cool :')
if you ever care to figure out what the previous owner of the SDB was up to, that game id looks like it matches "SD Gundam G Generation Advance" and if you found a copy of it you could pick up right where they left off
GGENE is probably a save for SD Gundam G Generation Advance
The existing save was for SD Gundam G Generation Advance.
catch rare pokemon, backup save, implant save on another cart, use that cart in another gameboy to trade a 2nd rare pokemon on first cart.. rinse repeat, bam! fighting team made up of 6 mewtwo's
or yeah, keep save safe for battery swaps, corrupted carts, etc.
LOL 😂 Your reactions in this video are perfect!
Suddenly, Ashens!
Paraphernalia lol
Pretty sure its not illegal to "duplicate" (backup/copy) your own games.
It's just illegal to distribute it.
Top 10 anime crossovers
ngl i love these varm and cozy videos :3
An excellent collabaration
I wonder if Sagame was like a JP branch of Gameshark, that was immediately what I thought of when seeing the logo, the fact it's also a cheat device seems a little coincidental but could just be.
I have a game save back-up for the GB or GBC. Just like the Japanese one you are showing. Mine was sold in the US.
(New retro future vid) Oh cool
(Suddenly it's an Ashen's collab) Oh COOL!!
Gee, two videos in one??
Also, I’m pretty sure the name is a play on Same (Shark), so the last pronunciation is probably the right one.
This video gave me battery anxiety.
That surf blue color reminds me of RoboCop 2 😅
how mutch GB stuff can one man have?
the legend is back ♥
23,000 views
OMG ashens! XD so unexpected!
Awesome video dude 😁
Huh. TIL Elliot's name is Dave.
wow and peace be upon you sir from me
1:02 You should be able to back up ANY software you have purchased as long as you are not selling the backups. If the consumer does not have that basic right, then what would stop companies from just developing physical media that degrades faster over shorter time frames causing you to have to purchase the software again and again. This is why they push so hard for a digital only world so they can just say you do not own anything, and you have only paid for a long-term rental....cough, cough sony....cough. If purchasing is not ownership, then piracy is not stealing. LONG LIVE PHYSICAL MEDIA!!
It's a backup, so more than one kid can play, and they only have 1 cartridge
10:09 is it a game shark?
11:26 it is a game shark!
It is not a gameshark. It's a save editor.
@silentassassin4815 the sagame is a gameshark/game genie, what ever you want to call it, it allows you to cheat
I need that egg 😂
Me and my brother had a game back up cartridge for the color and he ended up deleting my finished save for pokemon silver
FBI OPEN UP !!! YOU HAVE ILLEGAL CARTRIDGES !!!!!
PS : I miss your videos so much.
Amazing video Elliot❤
That egg is used for other purposes i bet