New series; HITC Sevens: Mythbusters. The show where Alfie debunks myths and common misconceptions that he has seen. Possible copyright problems, but would be great. Just rebranding this series.
James Cowley no just a series on this channel, everything stays the same, just the videos start with some graphic and slight changes. It’s still football talks
While I almost entirely agree with the video, I think you missed out an important aspect of his time at Bayern. While he wasn’t breaking world transfer records or anything, a lot of the signings were weakening his domestic rivals. Surely, it’s far easier to win the Bundesliga when you’ve taken Lewandowski and Götze off Dortmund
As a Bundesliga fan, I can guarantee you that Dortmund weakens their concurrents at least the same. There are actually statistics about that and they show that uses more players from rival teams than Bayern, they use the most from all teams in the Bundesliga, If I remember correctly.
@@battistoberhoel8839 Yeah I get that but BVB buy from multiple rival teams not just the biggest one. Anytime a star pops out of Dortmund they are linked with Bayern not too long after.
The argument that he couldn’t do it in league two is true, apart from the reasons Alfie said but also for the simple fact you need elite level players with elite mindsets and fitness levels, elite levels of dedication and a winning mindset. This is the same problem players who were world class players tend to have when they manage non top flight teams, they ask the players to do something or play a certain way but they simply aren’t capable. I think Lampard made a similar quote recently about Derby, Peps football requires 150% commitment and he ekes every last drop out of players.
I never really understood the “he couldn’t do it in league 2” thing. He can do it much better then other managers at elite football, surely that’s what’s important?
marcel c precisely, you need to spend big in elite football, and you can only expect to be on top if you have the right players for it. It’s nonsense to state that Guardiola or whoever should manage a lower tier team to prove his abilities.
Nate basically the wc was held in korea/japan and there was matchfixing for korea, e.g they faced italy in the last 16 Korean players fouled Italians the ref did not give any penalties even though there should have been The Koreans beat spain in the quarter finals due to more cheating I recommend you watch the 2 matches on youtube, I hope this gives you some context about the controversy surrounding the 2002 WC
@@JamesMC2323 exactly bro. Like he ain't won in a decade. What does the guy mean when he says "pep failure because he doesn't win cL every season". Like at least win it once without messi if you're the greatest manager
@@tyrkun1624 If you think Ole had surplus amounts of money, you're actually deluded. He is having one of the worst boards in the world in his hands with a team that was broken to pieces when he arrived. He is clearly doing a very good job so far considering what he had at his disposal and the injuries. Before the season started, if you said United would've been in the running for a CL spot with a semifinal in League Cup and is in the running to win the FA Cup and Europa League, most people would've called you stupid. The guy is clearly doing a very good job and I think it's only fair to criticise him at the end of his 3 year project and not now. As of now, he is very much on the up.
I remember seeing Barcelona back then and thinking " damn, this is the most dominating football I've ever seen". I remember watching Bayern back then and thinking "sh*t, this is the best football I've ever seen". I rember watching City some years ago and thinking " oh fu*k, I've never seen a team destroy team's like this". So yea, i think he might be doing some things right 🤔
@DEMONIC MACHINE are you stupid ? 1. You're the one who mentioned the name of 3 players. 2. 3 players you mentioned are even defenders so they themselves could not have stop the 7 goals . 3. Yes Messi played 1 full leg . He was just coming back from an injury and was not fully fit so pipe down . 4. I know Messi is only person . But that one person is difference between barca winning a match and barca losing a match . So calm down
@DEMONIC MACHINE When Bayern beat Barca 7-0 on aggregate, Tito Vilanova was the manager NOT Guardiola. Pep left the season before. Bayern beat Barca 7-0 in the 2012/13 season under Tito and mind you this was the time Tito was being hospitalized in New York from his cancer. Pep left the season before that, i.e 2011/12 season.
barca was so good becoz he had best possible players at his disposal at that time who were not in synchrony with raikad's tactics pep just instilled some good things which becoz of the players barca achieved everything. Going to his recent man city success. It was becoz of kompany at the back, dominant fernandinhio at the holding, the magician david silva and kevin in the middle and sergio uptop. Now you see man city they have spent a forture on their backline the take goals, and with david silva gone kevin is not able to create alone becoz the main magician was david, and with sergio injured there is no one to finish. It just proves that pep needs magical players who actually lead to team overachieving with some good that he does. But with same good things which he does he can't achieve big without magic players.
@@Jim-so3zm Pep is a great manager but he’s also always been put in ideal situations. Along with what you mentioned at Barcelona and Bayern, he’s pretty much got an open check book to sign whoever he wants at Man City. It more than likely won’t ever happen, but put Guardiola at a mid table club that either doesn’t spend a ton of money or can’t spend a lot, and that would speak dividends towards how good of a manager he actually is.
I've always said that Pep going to a second division team just to prove he's a good manager would be like working at the NASA building space rockets and then quitting just to go build home rockets with your son just to prove that you're good enough for the NASA.
@@pompastine100 Sir Alex won a lot with Aberdeen during a period when Celtic were a lethal respectable force that dominated Scottish league. Mourinho won UCL with Inter and Porto.
I agree, it's so annoying seeing people say that like its mandatory that he has to go to a smaller club to "pRoVe hiMsELf" he obviously wouldn't win stuff for a while if not ever, he cant play his style at Swindon town or something, he needs good players to fit the system, it's that simple, and good players cost a lot of money, he's not gonna go to Swindon town because Sancho_x_manunited on twitter begged him to stop winning trophies and go ruin his career, its ridiculous.
@@BetterDialLyle We're not talking about him going to Swindon Town though. We're talking about him doing something that isn't the equivalent of beginner mode on Fifa. I mean, he hasn't exactly had it difficult has he?
This is a bit different but it would be interesting. People need to understand the art of the regista role. A title could be... Setting the record straight on the regista role. eg. Sergio Busquets, Jorginho, Pirlo etc.
It would be cool to hear Alfie's take on it. But you go to the Tifo Football channel, you'll see that they've already made excellent videos on both the regista and raumdeuter.
Few things I want to add to this. If you think Pep needs a lot of money to be successful or he couldnt be successful without world class players, you should have started this video with what he did at Barca B. That is what lead to him being Barca's coach. He transformed that that Barca B team. Also its not about the money. its about having the right players to be able to implement your vision. None of Pep Guardiola's signings at Manchester City were marquee names. Look at the trajectory that players like Kevin De Bruyne and Raheem Sterling has had under Pep Guardiola. He has had players play in positions that they never have thought they would could. He had Messi play in a false 9 from a winger. He made Javier Mascherano and David Alaba thrive as center backs, a position which Alaba used even after Pep. There are a host of additional players as wel that have thrived under Pep's positional changes. Also I want to add that last season when Liverpool ran away with the Premier League title, it was Man City that still created the most chances amongst all the Premier League sides. The difference was that their finishing percentage was amongst the lowest. Again thats something out of Pep Guardiola's control. He put his team in the best positions to outscore the opponents. Pep for me was and is still the best coach in the world.
I'd love a video on football in England between the end of the first world and the start of the second world war. With all the turmoil of the 20's and 30's after a mass population loss from the great war, the Spanish flu pandemic and the great depression from the wall street crash. Hope all is good, Alfie
The fact that Bundesliga is pretty much a one-team league, it´s difficult to look at league-winning season as a huge success and that´s the issue with Guardiola too in Munich. Therefore failing to win the UEFA CL is looked as a massive setback. Putting things the way u did makes me look differently at his time at Bayern.
Hey man as a follower of your channel . Can I ask you to make a video on the football in india from its inception. As it has some of the oldest football clubs and oldest football club in asia. It's an ardent request as hugh fan of this channel. Thank you 😊
Can you please do a video that showcases how underrated Vicente Del Bosque accomplishments are plus working with superstar players and merging them together including his very bland character on the bench 😅
Loved the Barca side around a decade ago but that wasn’t due to pep. I loved Ronaldinho Eto’o etc. Then the evolution of Messi, Xavi (we know the list). That was the greatest team I’ve ever seen and it wasn’t due to the manager, they were all great players in their own right who suited perfectly. MSN afterwards also was a great team
@@tomgoodier2802 and Sol Campbell said he wasn't leaving totenham... and Ashley cole said he wasn't leaving arsenal... you should 100% believes everything a player or manager tells you.
I agree with the video but as a Manchester United fan I hated how unstoppable his Barcelona side felt specially against us in the 2 champions league finals. Respect to Guardiola.
Do not ignore what he did in his first coaching position, a 4th division Barca B side full of kids - won promotion and dazzled. A lie more than a myth that he needed big money signings
Great video. I always find it amusing that some people talk like Pep is the only manager in history to be able to spend money. Managers at PSG in recent years, Barcelona since they started signing 100+ million signings on a regular basis, Man United, Juve, etc. etc. don't all turn into Pep. Also, one thing I think people forget is that while he has managed great teams there has also always been very high expectations, and he has always met or exceeded those expectations by delivering multiple major trophies
Pep is a great manager but not the best coach. He has always had, in my opinion, the best team and a massive budget. Sure he didn’t spend much at Bayern but the club gave huge contracts to players for him and bought the best two players from his biggest competitor for him so that is saying a lot more than this video gives credit. Man City have won the league 6 times in the last 7 and yet he is still spending big money every window because he can. What more does that team need? Though just because you have an expensive team doesn’t mean you win. You only have to look at Chelsea to see that. So you can credit Pep for that. Pep isn’t a project manager though. He has never had a project in his career. He takes over teams that are already winning trophies. When he buys players he buys players that are already very good if not world class so he doesn’t really have to do much to improve them. If they fail under him then they fail and he just plays someone else because again he has a budget which has given him a nice bench. Arteta has Nketiah as a back up for Jesus and he nearly wins the league. That to me is a manager who can create wins from lack of depth and talent. Not Pep who has Alverez, Haaland, Grealish and Foden. 3 of those were big signings and world class before they came to him who would get in any team. What bothers me most is he times his jobs perfectly. Skipping over the obvious Barca team he took over. He takes over a Bayern at the right time. Then City when they are starting to become a very consistent PL trophy winning team. Mark my words in a few years time when City get done for all the rules they have been breaking then he will leave. By this time Newcastle will have gone through a couple more managers who have built a title winning team and boom Pep will swoop in, become Newcastles manager and remain a manager who has always had a great team with a huge budget and wins everything. This man is great but come on…. He is spoiled and always has been.
Before I go on, I don't not rate Pep, I think he's an amazing manager and has changed the game But, I will say, there are 2 things about him, 1, it's more of a pipe dream really, but I'd love to see what he can do without the funds, imagine if he had to operate on like Sheffield United's budget, or one even less, like Millwall or some budget like that, where they're weekly wage between all the players is probably under 120K and their budget on players is like, 5 million max, I'd love to see what Pep could do there But the one real criticism I have of him comes to one part of his man management, over his entire career I'd say he's only had 2 players with real strong ego's and "personalities" in Ronaldiniho and Zlatan, Ronaldiniho was sold basically immedinatly, and, well, he basically left Zlatan out to dry cause he wanted Messi central (seriously, he literally spends 60 odd million plus Eto'o and he doesn't play him, biggest mistake in Pep's career if you ask me) and he does tend to avoid the big egos to this day, whether it be out of a level of fear or a level of "I really can't be bothered" it is something that is noticeable, is it bad, probably not overall, but when Zlatan was at Barca, yes
Given what Guardiola did at Barcelona, and how Messi played through the middle, I'm not sure how you can say not playing Ibrahimovic was a mistake. There isn't much more Pep could have done at Barca.
@@HITCSevens not denying that Messi did amazing, but it is one heck of a big what if moment, we all know how good Messi is on the right, now imagine some of his crosses onto the head of Zlatan, we see what he's done with Suarez, it could've taken Barca to an even more unachievable level
@@BlazinBlz Your 1st point was answered very clearly in the video .. it is like asking Einstien to use my brain and top Putnam Competition... 2ndly ...every manager can have problems with their players.....u ppl don't want to look at the +ve side like how many players Pep transformed...Sterling, Kimmich, lord Otamendi, Delph, Fernandinho, Busquets, Pique, Kingsley Coman, Thiago, Boateng, Alaba... I can go on and on...... Nobody is perfect... And no manager get this much hate Pep gets because he wins trophies by dominating teams.... and not to forget he always backs his players defends their worst performances, unlike Jose.. and most importantly he brings joy to fans...Ppl don't buy tickets to watch bus parking... ppl watch football to get entertained...
I think the one valid criticism you can make of Guardiola is that he is actually too much of an idealist. He more often than not seem to have no plan B, if things don't go his way, which they mostly do I will admit. Surely adaptability of tactis etc. has to be a key element when judging a top manager. His stubbornness also sometimes seem to blind him. Putting Bravo in goal for City because he is "good with his feet", nevemind that he can't do the basics of goalkeeping! I respect Guardiola a lot for these very reasons, but these are also the reasons i prefer Mourinho.
I remember when he got appointed at Barca and replaced all the big stars with young unknown players. Everyone thought it was madness, and that he surely be sacked before Christmas
New series idea: team of the league. Unlike a normal "best player on each team", the task is to make a balanced team of starting XI, subs and possibly reserves with one player from each team in a league. Total player number depends on the league.
I think what people who are not watching every game misses is how Peps obsession with possession is an excellent way to raise the floor of performance and thus makes his teams great for long league seasons.
@@shyamaprosadbanerjee8626 Mario Gotze has never been that good. Etoo and Zlatan hadoff the field issues with Pep. Nothing to do with on field issues. No top coach likes to deal with players with big egos because they have their own big fat egos as well.
@@goodevil1227 No brother Eto and Zlatan had on the field issues. They were being played out of position and they have their point because they both were performing excellent in their own positions. Same with Thierry Henry. Another great player Ronaldinho. And truly speaking Zlatan and Eto are immensely hard working players and they give their all for the team. Except Pep every other coach in the world treasured Zlatan, as he was the leader and their voice on the pitch.
@@shyamaprosadbanerjee8626 Etoo and Zlatan openly spoke about their issues with Pep. Not denying their greatness as a player. Ronaldinho was out of control with lifestyle. He had to go.
I agree with everything you said but look at Xavi and Iniesta they won Euro 2008 at a time where Pep was not the Barcelona plus Xavi was the player of the tournament and in regarding Messi he came 3rd in 2007 for the Ballon dor and 2nd in 2008, At Bayern he inherited the European Champions and he signed players from direct rivals which made them weak
1. He is Catalan, not Spaniard. Nationalism is a complex thing, but many Catalans wish for independence from Spain. It's similar to if Great Britain was a country and Scotland wanted independence. It's really disrespectful to refer to him as Spaniard when he has on many occasions supported Catalan independence and was even fined for showing his support for political figures who were incarcerated for organizing a vote for Catalan independence. Ok, now lets go by his time at his three different clubs and analyse them a bit. First is Barcelona. 2. I agree with the point that talented players don't make a a good team. You need a sporting project as well as players willing to buy into it. Many clubs understand this now, that's why they have a footballing director, or sporting director. (Nevertheless that doesn't mean you put a head coach who has no say in transfers as opposed to a manager who does have a say, although maybe not the last word, that's a topic for another day) The first Galactico era was a good example. We don't even have to go back in time; look at the Barcelona team now. They bought Coutinho who was a coveted footballer and in the span of a year and a half zapped his confidence and shipped him to Bayern on a loan after he failed to impress. Anyway, that's a story for another time. The point is that the team that Pep inherited in '08 was far from great. Yes, they had a lot of talent, but for one thing, Xavi and Iniesta never played together because that midfield was seen as too weak in an era of physical football at the time in Spain. It was either Xavi or Iniesta, (usually Xavi) never the two together. Pep made it work, however. 3. I disagree with your assesement that Messi would have shone anywhere. Again, this is something that will never get credit for, but I would argue that he unlocked Messi's full potential. For one thing, Messi was a good, tricky winger when Pep first arrived. Nevertheless, he was very injury prone. He was like Dembele, injured every 6 weeks. The first thing that Pep did when he first arrived was change Messi's diet. That went a long way. There was also a change in training regiment not only for him but for all of the team as well. But I would argue the best thing he did besides that buying Alves and selling Ronaldinho, which brings me to my next point. 4. Selling Ronaldinho was necessary not only for the long term health of the club, but also to the development of Messi. by 2006, Ronaldinho had fallen out of love with the game for whatever reason. I mean, he had achieved pretty much everything he set out to achieve in the game. He had a world cup, a ballon d'or, champions league, etc. He was universally regarded as the best player on the planet at some point. I guess once he had that, he lacked any motivation to keep going. It wasn't until the 2007-2008 season that became evident, however. He had gained a lot of weight, was known to attend training sessions hungover after a night out on the town and was more known for partying than his professionalism. Not only him, but Deco as well. Pep didn't want Messi doing that same thing so the first thing that he did was kick both Deco and Ronaldinho out. Thankfully he had the backing of the board. Nowadays if you tell your board that you want to sell players because they've become toxic in the locker room you'll probably be the one getting the sack, look at Pochettino... anyway, moving on. Now, onto Bayern Munich. He won the double every year he was there, but he was still seen as a failure in spite of the fact that it's not like Bayern was winning UCL's every year before he got there. Yes, they had made the final 3 out of the last 4 winning one but before that, you'd have to go back a decade for their last finals appearance. Which brings me to my next point: 5. Not winning the Champions League with Bayern does NOT mean a lack of success. Following on from my previous point. People think that just because you won a league, or anything, you're going to keep on winning. You kinda hinted at it, but often times after a team wins the champions league, they don't really win it again for several years. One reason which is the obvious one is that the champions league is a knockout competition. We've already seen that one dodgy refereeing decision or one unlucky bounce can mean the difference between advancing or going home. We saw it last year with the no handball call on Llorente for Spurs' goal or this year with Liverpool going out even though they created enough chances to win 4 nil vs Atletico. In one year, they went out to Atletico Madrid in a similar fashion that Liverpool went out to them this year. In the year prior they went out to a potent Barcelona side featuring Messi, Suarez and Neymar back when they actually pressed and Neymar was still somewhat humble to want to work for the team. There's talks of brining Neymar back to Barcelona. That's a suicide mission with all three of them in the same team. They are kinda like Ronaldinho not in the sense that they are known more for their partying than their professionalism (except for Neymar) but in the sense that they think they can live off past glory alone. I don't want Neymar back and Suarez can leave. The only one we can allow not to press is Messi. Furthermore, mentality and motivation can mean the difference between winning or losing it. It's those intangibles that means you get to 50/50 balls quicker or give that extra edge when you have already won something. I'm not saying that players do it consciously, in fact its the opposite. That does influence proceedings. Nevertheless, I will say that it was a bit of a dick move to pry Gotze and Lewandowski from Dortmund. That strengthened your team and weakened the opposition. Although to be honest I don't really know how much influence Pep had over those signings. Gotze already had contract sign before Guardiola took charge and Lewandowski followed the year after on a free. I'm sure there was some tapping up the year prior by the Bayern hierarchy was they usually do (see Leroy Sane.) 5. Lastly, yes, there's been a lot of spending at Man City. That said, you also have to look at it in the context of what is going on all around them. They haven't spend 90 million pounds on a single player like what United was doing 3/4 years ago. Rather, they've been making smart buys for around the 50-60 range. 10 years ago, 80 million pounds go you Cristiano Ronaldo, a world class player (best player on the planet summer 2009) but fast forward 10 years, all that gets you is a good, but not necessarily world class defender. Let's be honest, Slabhead is a decent defender who only looks better than he is because there is no other solid CB available for an england call up, at least at the time he was sold. He is not better or at a similar level to Van Dijk who we can all agree is the best defender in the world right now. He is at leasy two rungs below. Let's be honest, there was a 10 million pound tax because he's British and a 20 million Man United tax. Anyway, I'll leave Maguire alone, it's not his fault the market is inflated, but that's exactly my point, the market is inflated. Spending 50-60 pounds for a player now is the equivalent of buying one for 15-20 pounds 10 years ago specially if you're at the top of the premier league and clubs know that you have money. They try to take all that they can, just ask Man United.
Well said, especially on the pressing part with neymar, messi, suarez, too many divas in a team isn’t good. Talented, yes, but that alone isn’t enough in this era.
Pep is the guy you bring in when you have a high floor but need to raise the ceiling. Not the guy you bring in for the purpose of laying foundations, raising the floor. Although I would suspect he could do that. But it would be something that ruins not enhances a reputation. Sir Alex Ferguson for example is criticised for raising the floor and maintaining a standard but rarely achieving the highest ceiling. But what he did is what made him great. Tearing down a tallented but not competative enough team at United, even going so far as having multiple bad seasons before he managed to build a core standard and push on. Lots of mistakes but magnificent relentless competativeness. Pep can maintain standards and is showing that at City, even having superb heights. You should never see him have to take over a club in a real crisis. He was very fortunate to be given the Barcalona chance with such great resources, but he made more of that chance than any rookie manager I caj think of.
I think this is overall a fair argument. I've never said Pep is less than a great manager. I do think Jurgen Klopp edges him for the best manager in the modern era, because he *has* won doing multiple job descriptions. At BVB, he took a mid-table side on the edge of insolvency, and through hard work and his football ideology, won multiple league titles and restored Dortmund to a global footballing brand. He didn't spend big. He primarily used players on hand or cast-offs from other clubs, and he won titles with players who frequently produced less everywhere else they played (Nuri Sahin). Then he went to Liverpool and won with Premier League resources, still playing football the way he believes it should be played. Like Pep, there were a lot of people who believed Gegenpressing wouldn't work in England. That the high lines would be suicide. That the tempo couldn't be maintained. But Klopp has done everything that could be asked of a manager at Liverpool. And held up well in hos confrontations with other elite managers like Pep and Mourinho. So for me, while I agree both are elite managers, if we're asking which is the best manager of this generation, I say Klopp over Pep.
His time at Barcelona needs no explanation. With Bayern he wiped out everyone domestically and reached the semifinals in all 3 years which is really good considering how much of a lottery that competition is, in 2014 a good Real Madrid kicked them out, in 2015 it was Messi's masterclass when he broke Boateng and in 2016 they lost to Atlético due to away goals (which imo is a rule that shouldn't exist, if it's a draw just go to penalties but it is what it is). Lastly with Man City he has broken national records in 2 out of his 4 seasons, reaching 100 points and then winning the domestic treble, 2 things no other team has done. In the Champions League it has been disappointing but once again, even though it can be better, it is a competition where pure luck plays a huge factor. We can round it all up with a single fact: Josep Guardiola is the most successful manager ever considering his trophies to seasons managed ratio (29 trophies won in 11 seasons as a first team manager, 2.6 per season).
Plus he has made so many players improve incredibly like Alfie said but not only those, I still haven't watched the whole thing but there's also Sterling, Bojan (had a great season leaving Zlatan in the bench, then succumbed to pressure), Pedro Rodríguez, Lewandowski evolved from a really good to a world class striker and I'm sure i'm forgetting about many other players who went from average to good, good to great, or great to world class.
Even with his flaws by far is a top 5 manager of all time. Imo my top 5 managers are: 1. Rinus Michels 2. Sir Alex Ferguson 3. Johan Cruyff 4. Pep Guardiola 5. Jose Mourhino
@@warlikebiscuit9113 We can agree to disagree as much as I love pep as a manager,he has only managed top teams and has even then struggled to win the champion's league with them (Bayern Munich especially) whereas klopp has taken the rather smaller teams to European success
@@PJ-cm8ix i get you man yeah what Kloop did at Liverpool and Dortmund is especially impressive but, for me one thing that messes Kloop up for me was his last season at Dortmund and he still hasn't officially won the league with Liverpool yet though they mostly likely will next month, but just from sheer trophies and plus imo the impact that Guardiola had in Messi slightly trumps all the players Kloop has improved, yes Guardiolas stock at City has dropped especially this season, but whole career wise Pep has been successful as manager almost five years more.then Kloop. More me Kloop Historically rn is just about 10th where as I still see Guardiola historically in the top five who knows he'll probably for me be just outside the top 5 or overtake Mourihno when he retires but as of right now he is outside of the top 10 only just.
Dude, can you run for President of the US? That was the best analysis I've about anything in a long time. 100% honest, as objective as possible from an admitted fan. Facts. I find it amazing that some people think he not a good manager. Nobody manages the best players in the world as good as he does and always maintains a level of composure and class in victory AND defeat. If he stayed at Barcelona, he would have won at least 1 more CLs giving him the most.
Guardiola being a “chequebook manager” is one of the biggest myths in football. Last time I checked Mourinho and Ancelotti have spent more than Guardiola and have been managing for longer, yet they’ve won fewer trophies.
5:22 How was that a master stroke by pep? The reasons for Ronaldinho leaving are debated to be him turning up to training drunk and Ronaldinho wanting to leave. Also, imagine that Barca side with Ronaldinho and Messi becoming unplayable. I say Pep took the MessixXavixIniestaxRonaldinho partnerships away from us too soon
when pep was in spain, spain national team was unstoppable, he went to germany and germany national team won world cup, then pep arrives at england and england team who harldy ever made progress in national competitions finished at semi's, coincidence i think not
Barcelona and Bayern were the basis of the last successful Spanish and German national teams, but Man City is barely involved with the English national team. So that one is a coincidence. And the first two had genius managers as well, in Vicente del Bosque and Joachim Löw.
I think judging Pep's success looking into a perspective of not winning the champions league with Bayern is a bit harsh because to a certain extent his job was to continue to set the standard at the Bundesliga. And at Manchester City his big money spending is due to the inflation in transfer fees
While I’m not blind to the fact that others truly believe Guardiola isn’t a good manager, I certainly think he is phenomenal. I also think your argument regarding his time at Barcelona in particular is very strong. However, I wish you would address the comparison between Guardiola and Klopp, because many people feel that Klopp is the best because he might be able to do a job like that of Chris Wilder and also bring a top team to the next level.
Pep is the best "short-term" manager in the world, imo (admittedly, I'm a Liverpool fan). I don't see him as the type that will stay 10+ years at a club & become it's foundation (like Sir Alex, Wenger or, maybe (?), Klopp), but he's the perfect manager, if you're a high-end club, to bring in for 3-5 years & produce some amazing football & many trophies from high-class footballers. He's kinda like Mourinho in a sense, but the exact opposite style-wise. In any way, though, he's an amazing manager & one of the best of our times.
@@UmarKhan-po6tn That was moreso because of all the players that Bayern poached from him (and there were injuries to guys like Reus & Gundogan that also helped wreck the season). Had that season actually gone even like the previous one had, I doubt Klopp would be at Liverpool right now, and my goodness, I'd love to see him with the squad Dortmund has right now.
@@UmarKhan-po6tn I don't think this will happen with Liverpool (though I'm biased), because I think he'll be more able to keep his best players & he won't have a truly awful season like 2014-15, so I could see him staying another 4-5 years & reaching a decade at Anfield. Though again, I'm a little biased...
Football will be great again once the transfer market is more regulated. This oligopoly of big club domination has been killing the game since commercialization went into maniacal hyperdrive in the mid 90s.
The biggest argument that Pep is a chequebook manager is pointing to the 16/17 season when you saw what he did without spending millions. He also ran away when Mourinho overhauled him in 2012 despite peak Messi. If he runs away to Juventus or PSG this summer after Klopp has gotten on top, it proves that he is a coward.
It has nothing to do with Mourinho. Pep Guardiola wanted to left Barcelona after the 10/11 Season but the board wanted him to stay. Guardiola wrote in his biography that was one of his biggest mistakes ever. And Pep spent over 200 Million Euros in the 16/17 season, the second most expensive transfer period when he began to coach City until now. In the 17/18 Season, where he won the league, he only spent 78 Million Euro.
New series; HITC Sevens: Mythbusters. The show where Alfie debunks myths and common misconceptions that he has seen. Possible copyright problems, but would be great. Just rebranding this series.
Doesn't need to be a new series just do some myth debunking videos
James Cowley why I said rebranding, more just rebranding, maybe a logo and intro idk. It would be cool as shit
@@dantespina7398 we don't need new logo's just the football 😂 not knocking your idea
James Cowley no just a series on this channel, everything stays the same, just the videos start with some graphic and slight changes. It’s still football talks
Before you decide to speak, you should think twice! As you are foolish!
He clearly hasn't seen my FIFA 20 road to glory with Macclesfield town
YO I DID THAT TOO LOOL CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNERS
He clearly hasnt watched Sir Barf
@@jakekavanagh08 or even masterbucks lol
muffin boy Sir Barf is 10x better
While I almost entirely agree with the video, I think you missed out an important aspect of his time at Bayern. While he wasn’t breaking world transfer records or anything, a lot of the signings were weakening his domestic rivals. Surely, it’s far easier to win the Bundesliga when you’ve taken Lewandowski and Götze off Dortmund
So? He's still tactically using his money
BVB signed Reus, Gundogan, Klopp etc. from other Bundesliga clubs. All clubs weakens their domestic rivals.
if u are saying he is using money, wasn't lewa on a free?
As a Bundesliga fan, I can guarantee you that Dortmund weakens their concurrents at least the same. There are actually statistics about that and they show that uses more players from rival teams than Bayern, they use the most from all teams in the Bundesliga, If I remember correctly.
@@battistoberhoel8839 Yeah I get that but BVB buy from multiple rival teams not just the biggest one. Anytime a star pops out of Dortmund they are linked with Bayern not too long after.
The argument that he couldn’t do it in league two is true, apart from the reasons Alfie said but also for the simple fact you need elite level players with elite mindsets and fitness levels, elite levels of dedication and a winning mindset.
This is the same problem players who were world class players tend to have when they manage non top flight teams, they ask the players to do something or play a certain way but they simply aren’t capable. I think Lampard made a similar quote recently about Derby, Peps football requires 150% commitment and he ekes every last drop out of players.
I never really understood the “he couldn’t do it in league 2” thing. He can do it much better then other managers at elite football, surely that’s what’s important?
@@jamesnorthcote3718 And Messi wouldn't get it done at league 2 either. No one from that Barcelona team would have except the CB.
What was the Lampard quote about Derby?
Nonsense - He did it first with a 4th division Barca B side that consisted of kids much younger than their peers and won the division & promotion
marcel c precisely, you need to spend big in elite football, and you can only expect to be on top if you have the right players for it. It’s nonsense to state that Guardiola or whoever should manage a lower tier team to prove his abilities.
7 players that had to retire before 25
Tom Brash I automatically think of Michael Johnson. Oh what could’ve been.. 💭
You wouldn’t get it too many pukka pies 🥧
If you extend the criterion by 5 years, then we have more players. Sebastian Diesler, Dean Ashton, Fabrice Muamba, Ruben De La Red etc
Pogba...
I love these videos, even prefer them over the sevens and would love to see them more often.
Can you make a video about the controversial 2002 World Cup?
Or
Phillip Lahm's Last Starting XI -
Where are they now?
U had 69 likes I just couldn't ruin that
JD Vlogs ok i don't care tho
I would like to see that video bc I don't know the controversy
Nate basically the wc was held in korea/japan and there was matchfixing for korea, e.g they faced italy in the last 16
Korean players fouled Italians the ref did not give any penalties even though there should have been
The Koreans beat spain in the quarter finals due to more cheating
I recommend you watch the 2 matches on youtube, I hope this gives you some context about the controversy surrounding the 2002 WC
@@saeed_05 u sound like a utuber mate i like it
Pep is the only manager ever who is a failure if he doesn’t win in the champions league every season.
Goofy he hasn’t won it in 12 years 😂😂😂😂fym talking about every season dumbahh
Considering his squads the criticism is fair
Still want to reconsider this?
Considering pep's been winning the CL for the past 10 years straight
@@AbdulK-kr2jv ?????? Bro he ain’t won in a decade+ what are you talking about lol
@@JamesMC2323 exactly bro. Like he ain't won in a decade. What does the guy mean when he says "pep failure because he doesn't win cL every season". Like at least win it once without messi if you're the greatest manager
been coming out with a couple of bangers recently. Love these type of videos
Also 10:54 is so true its painful
Lots of very good points very well made really enjoyable video
Doesn’t matter if he spends money to buy players....some managers even with surplus amount wouldn’t be able to produce the results that Pep produces..
Solskjaer has entered the chat.
Crazy Person what has he succeeded? 3wins against pep congratulations
@@nicb1359 You clearly didn't understand my comment. I meant that Ole is one of those who wouldn't succeed with surplus amounts of money.
@@tyrkun1624 If you think Ole had surplus amounts of money, you're actually deluded. He is having one of the worst boards in the world in his hands with a team that was broken to pieces when he arrived.
He is clearly doing a very good job so far considering what he had at his disposal and the injuries.
Before the season started, if you said United would've been in the running for a CL spot with a semifinal in League Cup and is in the running to win the FA Cup and Europa League, most people would've called you stupid.
The guy is clearly doing a very good job and I think it's only fair to criticise him at the end of his 3 year project and not now. As of now, he is very much on the up.
Adithya Prasad Ole may have an awful hoard behind him but you can’t ignore he immense amount of money he has to spend.
I remember seeing Barcelona back then and thinking " damn, this is the most dominating football I've ever seen". I remember watching Bayern back then and thinking "sh*t, this is the best football I've ever seen". I rember watching City some years ago and thinking " oh fu*k, I've never seen a team destroy team's like this".
So yea, i think he might be doing some things right 🤔
@DEMONIC MACHINE lol u suck Garbage uninstall Bro Who's jupp i dont know Who is it Bro Tell me
@DEMONIC MACHINE an injured Messi calm down
@DEMONIC MACHINE are you stupid ?
1. You're the one who mentioned the name of 3 players.
2. 3 players you mentioned are even defenders so they themselves could not have stop the 7 goals .
3. Yes Messi played 1 full leg . He was just coming back from an injury and was not fully fit so pipe down .
4. I know Messi is only person . But that one person is difference between barca winning a match and barca losing a match . So calm down
@DEMONIC MACHINE When Bayern beat Barca 7-0 on aggregate, Tito Vilanova was the manager NOT Guardiola. Pep left the season before. Bayern beat Barca 7-0 in the 2012/13 season under Tito and mind you this was the time Tito was being hospitalized in New York from his cancer. Pep left the season before that, i.e 2011/12 season.
barca was so good becoz he had best possible players at his disposal at that time who were not in synchrony with raikad's tactics pep just instilled some good things which becoz of the players barca achieved everything.
Going to his recent man city success. It was becoz of kompany at the back, dominant fernandinhio at the holding, the magician david silva and kevin in the middle and sergio uptop. Now you see man city they have spent a forture on their backline the take goals, and with david silva gone kevin is not able to create alone becoz the main magician was david, and with sergio injured there is no one to finish.
It just proves that pep needs magical players who actually lead to team overachieving with some good that he does. But with same good things which he does he can't achieve big without magic players.
This is genuinely the best video you have ever made.
I think Pep is amazing. What he has achieved speaks for itself tbh
Philthy Player When he achieved 6 titles in his first season, you knew what’s to come from this manager.
Yeah, with the greatest club side ever and a one team league where he weakened his domestic rivals.
@@Jim-so3zm Pep is a great manager but he’s also always been put in ideal situations. Along with what you mentioned at Barcelona and Bayern, he’s pretty much got an open check book to sign whoever he wants at Man City. It more than likely won’t ever happen, but put Guardiola at a mid table club that either doesn’t spend a ton of money or can’t spend a lot, and that would speak dividends towards how good of a manager he actually is.
Could've made the point that he took over a Division 3 team and got them promoted.
I've always said that Pep going to a second division team just to prove he's a good manager would be like working at the NASA building space rockets and then quitting just to go build home rockets with your son just to prove that you're good enough for the NASA.
Why you always Said that to pep and not to Ferguson or Mourinho or Ancelotti Bro just admit Guardiola the goat
@@pompastine100 Sir Alex won a lot with Aberdeen during a period when Celtic were a lethal respectable force that dominated Scottish league. Mourinho won UCL with Inter and Porto.
But come on, even Tony Stark had to build an arc reactor in a cave.. with a box of scraps
I agree, it's so annoying seeing people say that like its mandatory that he has to go to a smaller club to "pRoVe hiMsELf" he obviously wouldn't win stuff for a while if not ever, he cant play his style at Swindon town or something, he needs good players to fit the system, it's that simple, and good players cost a lot of money, he's not gonna go to Swindon town because Sancho_x_manunited on twitter begged him to stop winning trophies and go ruin his career, its ridiculous.
@@BetterDialLyle We're not talking about him going to Swindon Town though. We're talking about him doing something that isn't the equivalent of beginner mode on Fifa. I mean, he hasn't exactly had it difficult has he?
Hi Alfie, hope you’re keeping well during this bizarre period ! I would love to see a video similar to this dissecting the “Regista Role”. Cheers
2009-2010 Football Conference Teams: Where Are They Now?
Tito Vilanova,Tata Martino,Luis Enrique,
All inherited same or better players than Pep,
But the Mesmerizing Football left with Pep.
We all know Enrique wouldn't be held to a high regard if MSN wasn't a thing.
And now it's outdated
Pellegrini failed with De Bruyne, Yaya Toure, Aguero, and Sterling. It takes a top top manager to handle all these players.
Yaya Toure's best individual season came under Pellegrini.
Crazy Person I know mate
You could argue looking at their records that Pep hasn't achieved much more than Pellegrini at City.
@@Jim-so3zm are you high?
Toure was a beast under Pellegrini (2013/14 in particular)
This is a bit different but it would be interesting. People need to understand the art of the regista role.
A title could be... Setting the record straight on the regista role.
eg. Sergio Busquets, Jorginho, Pirlo etc.
KTBFFH also raumdaghter role
fz 69 raumdeuter
Jeshua Esher can’t spell for shit but you get what I mean
It would be cool to hear Alfie's take on it. But you go to the Tifo Football channel, you'll see that they've already made excellent videos on both the regista and raumdeuter.
Fadhili Deche it’s the definition not there opinions it’s what’s a regista or reumdeuter not how good is it and what’s its importance
Nailed on analysis!! I'm not a fan of guardiola but he is one of the best managers in the world and deserves more credit than he gets.
Few things I want to add to this. If you think Pep needs a lot of money to be successful or he couldnt be successful without world class players, you should have started this video with what he did at Barca B. That is what lead to him being Barca's coach. He transformed that that Barca B team. Also its not about the money. its about having the right players to be able to implement your vision. None of Pep Guardiola's signings at Manchester City were marquee names. Look at the trajectory that players like Kevin De Bruyne and Raheem Sterling has had under Pep Guardiola. He has had players play in positions that they never have thought they would could. He had Messi play in a false 9 from a winger. He made Javier Mascherano and David Alaba thrive as center backs, a position which Alaba used even after Pep. There are a host of additional players as wel that have thrived under Pep's positional changes. Also I want to add that last season when Liverpool ran away with the Premier League title, it was Man City that still created the most chances amongst all the Premier League sides. The difference was that their finishing percentage was amongst the lowest. Again thats something out of Pep Guardiola's control. He put his team in the best positions to outscore the opponents. Pep for me was and is still the best coach in the world.
I'd love a video on football in England between the end of the first world and the start of the second world war. With all the turmoil of the 20's and 30's after a mass population loss from the great war, the Spanish flu pandemic and the great depression from the wall street crash. Hope all is good, Alfie
The fact that Bundesliga is pretty much a one-team league, it´s difficult to look at league-winning season as a huge success and that´s the issue with Guardiola too in Munich. Therefore failing to win the UEFA CL is looked as a massive setback. Putting things the way u did makes me look differently at his time at Bayern.
Hey man as a follower of your channel .
Can I ask you to make a video on the football in india from its inception.
As it has some of the oldest football clubs and oldest football club in asia.
It's an ardent request as hugh fan of this channel.
Thank you 😊
Can you please do a video that showcases how underrated Vicente Del Bosque accomplishments are plus working with superstar players and merging them together including his very bland character on the bench 😅
Loved the Barca side around a decade ago but that wasn’t due to pep. I loved Ronaldinho Eto’o etc. Then the evolution of Messi, Xavi (we know the list). That was the greatest team I’ve ever seen and it wasn’t due to the manager, they were all great players in their own right who suited perfectly. MSN afterwards also was a great team
Whatever it id, even if pep spends a ton of money, no other football teans are so plaeasing to watch and yet dominate the game
Two Premier Leagues and 3 League Cups in 5 years... Wow what a dynasty.
Do 7 teams whose female teams are outperforming their male counterparts
The US in top spot 100%
Arsenal sad to say as I am a gooner
lyon
Ian Clinton none
Great Idea
When the going gets tough pep gets going 😁
Lloyd Fernandes yeah, going to another club
Tateybigmouth Reee which is why he’s said he’s staying next season and potentially signing a new contract but okay😂
Tom Goodier the fact you believe him 😂😂😂
Clemmy clemm hes said it multiple times saying he’ll be loyal so
@@tomgoodier2802 and Sol Campbell said he wasn't leaving totenham... and Ashley cole said he wasn't leaving arsenal... you should 100% believes everything a player or manager tells you.
I agree with the video but as a Manchester United fan I hated how unstoppable his Barcelona side felt specially against us in the 2 champions league finals. Respect to Guardiola.
Do not ignore what he did in his first coaching position, a 4th division Barca B side full of kids - won promotion and dazzled. A lie more than a myth that he needed big money signings
It angers me whenever I see somebody call Guardiola a 'chequebook manager'
Me too
I just dont like how he treats players he doesnt want or like
To put it simple,
Wasnt as interested in Football before Pep,wont be after,
Pep the only Manager to play the Beautiful Game with Aesthetics.
How old are you?
Jimmy McNulty lad you say “willy” you can fuck right off 9 year old
Great video. I always find it amusing that some people talk like Pep is the only manager in history to be able to spend money. Managers at PSG in recent years, Barcelona since they started signing 100+ million signings on a regular basis, Man United, Juve, etc. etc. don't all turn into Pep. Also, one thing I think people forget is that while he has managed great teams there has also always been very high expectations, and he has always met or exceeded those expectations by delivering multiple major trophies
Pep is a great manager but not the best coach. He has always had, in my opinion, the best team and a massive budget. Sure he didn’t spend much at Bayern but the club gave huge contracts to players for him and bought the best two players from his biggest competitor for him so that is saying a lot more than this video gives credit. Man City have won the league 6 times in the last 7 and yet he is still spending big money every window because he can. What more does that team need? Though just because you have an expensive team doesn’t mean you win. You only have to look at Chelsea to see that. So you can credit Pep for that.
Pep isn’t a project manager though. He has never had a project in his career. He takes over teams that are already winning trophies. When he buys players he buys players that are already very good if not world class so he doesn’t really have to do much to improve them. If they fail under him then they fail and he just plays someone else because again he has a budget which has given him a nice bench. Arteta has Nketiah as a back up for Jesus and he nearly wins the league. That to me is a manager who can create wins from lack of depth and talent. Not Pep who has Alverez, Haaland, Grealish and Foden. 3 of those were big signings and world class before they came to him who would get in any team. What bothers me most is he times his jobs perfectly. Skipping over the obvious Barca team he took over. He takes over a Bayern at the right time. Then City when they are starting to become a very consistent PL trophy winning team. Mark my words in a few years time when City get done for all the rules they have been breaking then he will leave. By this time Newcastle will have gone through a couple more managers who have built a title winning team and boom Pep will swoop in, become Newcastles manager and remain a manager who has always had a great team with a huge budget and wins everything.
This man is great but come on…. He is spoiled and always has been.
Before I go on, I don't not rate Pep, I think he's an amazing manager and has changed the game
But, I will say, there are 2 things about him, 1, it's more of a pipe dream really, but I'd love to see what he can do without the funds, imagine if he had to operate on like Sheffield United's budget, or one even less, like Millwall or some budget like that, where they're weekly wage between all the players is probably under 120K and their budget on players is like, 5 million max, I'd love to see what Pep could do there
But the one real criticism I have of him comes to one part of his man management, over his entire career I'd say he's only had 2 players with real strong ego's and "personalities" in Ronaldiniho and Zlatan, Ronaldiniho was sold basically immedinatly, and, well, he basically left Zlatan out to dry cause he wanted Messi central (seriously, he literally spends 60 odd million plus Eto'o and he doesn't play him, biggest mistake in Pep's career if you ask me) and he does tend to avoid the big egos to this day, whether it be out of a level of fear or a level of "I really can't be bothered" it is something that is noticeable, is it bad, probably not overall, but when Zlatan was at Barca, yes
Given what Guardiola did at Barcelona, and how Messi played through the middle, I'm not sure how you can say not playing Ibrahimovic was a mistake. There isn't much more Pep could have done at Barca.
@@HITCSevens not denying that Messi did amazing, but it is one heck of a big what if moment, we all know how good Messi is on the right, now imagine some of his crosses onto the head of Zlatan, we see what he's done with Suarez, it could've taken Barca to an even more unachievable level
@@BlazinBlz Your 1st point was answered very clearly in the video .. it is like asking Einstien to use my brain and top Putnam Competition...
2ndly ...every manager can have problems with their players.....u ppl don't want to look at the +ve side like how many players Pep transformed...Sterling, Kimmich, lord Otamendi, Delph, Fernandinho, Busquets, Pique, Kingsley Coman, Thiago, Boateng, Alaba... I can go on and on...... Nobody is perfect... And no manager get this much hate Pep gets because he wins trophies by dominating teams.... and not to forget he always backs his players defends their worst performances, unlike Jose.. and most importantly he brings joy to fans...Ppl don't buy tickets to watch bus parking... ppl watch football to get entertained...
By your logic Messi isn't a truly great players until he wins La Liga with a mid table team
Go through every prem team and pick their best ever player from each continent, could do a series of it.
I think the one valid criticism you can make of Guardiola is that he is actually too much of an idealist. He more often than not seem to have no plan B, if things don't go his way, which they mostly do I will admit. Surely adaptability of tactis etc. has to be a key element when judging a top manager. His stubbornness also sometimes seem to blind him. Putting Bravo in goal for City because he is "good with his feet", nevemind that he can't do the basics of goalkeeping! I respect Guardiola a lot for these very reasons, but these are also the reasons i prefer Mourinho.
Great video!
Ps. Imagine not listening to *both* Bob Dylan and Coldplay.
I remember when he got appointed at Barca and replaced all the big stars with young unknown players. Everyone thought it was madness, and that he surely be sacked before Christmas
New series idea: team of the league.
Unlike a normal "best player on each team", the task is to make a balanced team of starting XI, subs and possibly reserves with one player from each team in a league. Total player number depends on the league.
i love your vids
Love these types of videos!
I think what people who are not watching every game misses is how Peps obsession with possession is an excellent way to raise the floor of performance and thus makes his teams great for long league seasons.
You are the goat. Keep the controversial topics up mate
You didn’t mention once any of the players he bought that he failed to coach, and in doing so he shut them out
And what does they actually say? And how many of those players went on to become great players??
@@goodevil1227 Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Samuel Eto, Mario Götze.
@@shyamaprosadbanerjee8626 Mario Gotze has never been that good. Etoo and Zlatan hadoff the field issues with Pep. Nothing to do with on field issues. No top coach likes to deal with players with big egos because they have their own big fat egos as well.
@@goodevil1227 No brother Eto and Zlatan had on the field issues. They were being played out of position and they have their point because they both were performing excellent in their own positions. Same with Thierry Henry. Another great player Ronaldinho. And truly speaking Zlatan and Eto are immensely hard working players and they give their all for the team. Except Pep every other coach in the world treasured Zlatan, as he was the leader and their voice on the pitch.
@@shyamaprosadbanerjee8626 Etoo and Zlatan openly spoke about their issues with Pep. Not denying their greatness as a player. Ronaldinho was out of control with lifestyle. He had to go.
+1 Pep's wardrobe is a testament to the brand of football he likes to play.
I agree with everything you said but look at Xavi and Iniesta they won Euro 2008 at a time where Pep was not the Barcelona plus Xavi was the player of the tournament and in regarding Messi he came 3rd in 2007 for the Ballon dor and 2nd in 2008, At Bayern he inherited the European Champions and he signed players from direct rivals which made them weak
People say guardiola is a chekbook manager when ancelotti have spent more money than him
Make a video Italy World Cup winners where are they now
could you maybe do a video on Kjøbenhavns Boldklub , they hold the record for most danish league titles but now play in the fifth tier
apt analysis robert
He is a great manager period. Good video. Hope he continues to evolve
1. He is Catalan, not Spaniard. Nationalism is a complex thing, but many Catalans wish for independence from Spain. It's similar to if Great Britain was a country and Scotland wanted independence. It's really disrespectful to refer to him as Spaniard when he has on many occasions supported Catalan independence and was even fined for showing his support for political figures who were incarcerated for organizing a vote for Catalan independence.
Ok, now lets go by his time at his three different clubs and analyse them a bit. First is Barcelona.
2. I agree with the point that talented players don't make a a good team. You need a sporting project as well as players willing to buy into it. Many clubs understand this now, that's why they have a footballing director, or sporting director. (Nevertheless that doesn't mean you put a head coach who has no say in transfers as opposed to a manager who does have a say, although maybe not the last word, that's a topic for another day)
The first Galactico era was a good example. We don't even have to go back in time; look at the Barcelona team now. They bought Coutinho who was a coveted footballer and in the span of a year and a half zapped his confidence and shipped him to Bayern on a loan after he failed to impress.
Anyway, that's a story for another time. The point is that the team that Pep inherited in '08 was far from great. Yes, they had a lot of talent, but for one thing, Xavi and Iniesta never played together because that midfield was seen as too weak in an era of physical football at the time in Spain. It was either Xavi or Iniesta, (usually Xavi) never the two together. Pep made it work, however.
3. I disagree with your assesement that Messi would have shone anywhere. Again, this is something that will never get credit for, but I would argue that he unlocked Messi's full potential. For one thing, Messi was a good, tricky winger when Pep first arrived. Nevertheless, he was very injury prone. He was like Dembele, injured every 6 weeks.
The first thing that Pep did when he first arrived was change Messi's diet. That went a long way. There was also a change in training regiment not only for him but for all of the team as well.
But I would argue the best thing he did besides that buying Alves and selling Ronaldinho, which brings me to my next point.
4. Selling Ronaldinho was necessary not only for the long term health of the club, but also to the development of Messi.
by 2006, Ronaldinho had fallen out of love with the game for whatever reason. I mean, he had achieved pretty much everything he set out to achieve in the game. He had a world cup, a ballon d'or, champions league, etc. He was universally regarded as the best player on the planet at some point. I guess once he had that, he lacked any motivation to keep going. It wasn't until the 2007-2008 season that became evident, however. He had gained a lot of weight, was known to attend training sessions hungover after a night out on the town and was more known for partying than his professionalism. Not only him, but Deco as well. Pep didn't want Messi doing that same thing so the first thing that he did was kick both Deco and Ronaldinho out. Thankfully he had the backing of the board. Nowadays if you tell your board that you want to sell players because they've become toxic in the locker room you'll probably be the one getting the sack, look at Pochettino... anyway, moving on.
Now, onto Bayern Munich. He won the double every year he was there, but he was still seen as a failure in spite of the fact that it's not like Bayern was winning UCL's every year before he got there. Yes, they had made the final 3 out of the last 4 winning one but before that, you'd have to go back a decade for their last finals appearance. Which brings me to my next point:
5. Not winning the Champions League with Bayern does NOT mean a lack of success.
Following on from my previous point. People think that just because you won a league, or anything, you're going to keep on winning. You kinda hinted at it, but often times after a team wins the champions league, they don't really win it again for several years.
One reason which is the obvious one is that the champions league is a knockout competition. We've already seen that one dodgy refereeing decision or one unlucky bounce can mean the difference between advancing or going home. We saw it last year with the no handball call on Llorente for Spurs' goal or this year with Liverpool going out even though they created enough chances to win 4 nil vs Atletico.
In one year, they went out to Atletico Madrid in a similar fashion that Liverpool went out to them this year. In the year prior they went out to a potent Barcelona side featuring Messi, Suarez and Neymar back when they actually pressed and Neymar was still somewhat humble to want to work for the team. There's talks of brining Neymar back to Barcelona. That's a suicide mission with all three of them in the same team. They are kinda like Ronaldinho not in the sense that they are known more for their partying than their professionalism (except for Neymar) but in the sense that they think they can live off past glory alone. I don't want Neymar back and Suarez can leave. The only one we can allow not to press is Messi.
Furthermore, mentality and motivation can mean the difference between winning or losing it. It's those intangibles that means you get to 50/50 balls quicker or give that extra edge when you have already won something. I'm not saying that players do it consciously, in fact its the opposite. That does influence proceedings.
Nevertheless, I will say that it was a bit of a dick move to pry Gotze and Lewandowski from Dortmund. That strengthened your team and weakened the opposition. Although to be honest I don't really know how much influence Pep had over those signings. Gotze already had contract sign before Guardiola took charge and Lewandowski followed the year after on a free. I'm sure there was some tapping up the year prior by the Bayern hierarchy was they usually do (see Leroy Sane.)
5. Lastly, yes, there's been a lot of spending at Man City. That said, you also have to look at it in the context of what is going on all around them. They haven't spend 90 million pounds on a single player like what United was doing 3/4 years ago. Rather, they've been making smart buys for around the 50-60 range.
10 years ago, 80 million pounds go you Cristiano Ronaldo, a world class player (best player on the planet summer 2009) but fast forward 10 years, all that gets you is a good, but not necessarily world class defender. Let's be honest, Slabhead is a decent defender who only looks better than he is because there is no other solid CB available for an england call up, at least at the time he was sold. He is not better or at a similar level to Van Dijk who we can all agree is the best defender in the world right now. He is at leasy two rungs below. Let's be honest, there was a 10 million pound tax because he's British and a 20 million Man United tax.
Anyway, I'll leave Maguire alone, it's not his fault the market is inflated, but that's exactly my point, the market is inflated. Spending 50-60 pounds for a player now is the equivalent of buying one for 15-20 pounds 10 years ago specially if you're at the top of the premier league and clubs know that you have money. They try to take all that they can, just ask Man United.
Well said, especially on the pressing part with neymar, messi, suarez, too many divas in a team isn’t good. Talented, yes, but that alone isn’t enough in this era.
It's pretty obvious that a clubs quality will be diminished if you remove their 3 most valuable players. That ain't _rocket surgery._
Pep is the guy you bring in when you have a high floor but need to raise the ceiling. Not the guy you bring in for the purpose of laying foundations, raising the floor. Although I would suspect he could do that. But it would be something that ruins not enhances a reputation. Sir Alex Ferguson for example is criticised for raising the floor and maintaining a standard but rarely achieving the highest ceiling. But what he did is what made him great. Tearing down a tallented but not competative enough team at United, even going so far as having multiple bad seasons before he managed to build a core standard and push on. Lots of mistakes but magnificent relentless competativeness. Pep can maintain standards and is showing that at City, even having superb heights. You should never see him have to take over a club in a real crisis. He was very fortunate to be given the Barcalona chance with such great resources, but he made more of that chance than any rookie manager I caj think of.
I think this is overall a fair argument. I've never said Pep is less than a great manager. I do think Jurgen Klopp edges him for the best manager in the modern era, because he *has* won doing multiple job descriptions.
At BVB, he took a mid-table side on the edge of insolvency, and through hard work and his football ideology, won multiple league titles and restored Dortmund to a global footballing brand. He didn't spend big. He primarily used players on hand or cast-offs from other clubs, and he won titles with players who frequently produced less everywhere else they played (Nuri Sahin).
Then he went to Liverpool and won with Premier League resources, still playing football the way he believes it should be played. Like Pep, there were a lot of people who believed Gegenpressing wouldn't work in England. That the high lines would be suicide. That the tempo couldn't be maintained. But Klopp has done everything that could be asked of a manager at Liverpool. And held up well in hos confrontations with other elite managers like Pep and Mourinho.
So for me, while I agree both are elite managers, if we're asking which is the best manager of this generation, I say Klopp over Pep.
Last time I was this early, Pep Guardiola had a full head of fair
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Congrats on 250k :)
His time at Barcelona needs no explanation. With Bayern he wiped out everyone domestically and reached the semifinals in all 3 years which is really good considering how much of a lottery that competition is, in 2014 a good Real Madrid kicked them out, in 2015 it was Messi's masterclass when he broke Boateng and in 2016 they lost to Atlético due to away goals (which imo is a rule that shouldn't exist, if it's a draw just go to penalties but it is what it is). Lastly with Man City he has broken national records in 2 out of his 4 seasons, reaching 100 points and then winning the domestic treble, 2 things no other team has done. In the Champions League it has been disappointing but once again, even though it can be better, it is a competition where pure luck plays a huge factor. We can round it all up with a single fact: Josep Guardiola is the most successful manager ever considering his trophies to seasons managed ratio (29 trophies won in 11 seasons as a first team manager, 2.6 per season).
Plus he has made so many players improve incredibly like Alfie said but not only those, I still haven't watched the whole thing but there's also Sterling, Bojan (had a great season leaving Zlatan in the bench, then succumbed to pressure), Pedro Rodríguez, Lewandowski evolved from a really good to a world class striker and I'm sure i'm forgetting about many other players who went from average to good, good to great, or great to world class.
Wolves transformation? Next
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The last 7 top goal scorers for atalanta would be interesting.
Even with his flaws by far is a top 5 manager of all time. Imo my top 5 managers are:
1. Rinus Michels
2. Sir Alex Ferguson
3. Johan Cruyff
4. Pep Guardiola
5. Jose Mourhino
Jurgen klopp would like to speak with you
@@PJ-cm8ix im sorry as good Kloop is for me he's between 8 -15th in an all time manager list but he's top 3 if were talking this decade.
@@warlikebiscuit9113 We can agree to disagree as much as I love pep as a manager,he has only managed top teams and has even then struggled to win the champion's league with them (Bayern Munich especially) whereas klopp has taken the rather smaller teams to European success
@@warlikebiscuit9113 he will make it into top 10 soon.
@@PJ-cm8ix i get you man yeah what Kloop did at Liverpool and Dortmund is especially impressive but, for me one thing that messes Kloop up for me was his last season at Dortmund and he still hasn't officially won the league with Liverpool yet though they mostly likely will next month, but just from sheer trophies and plus imo the impact that Guardiola had in Messi slightly trumps all the players Kloop has improved, yes Guardiolas stock at City has dropped especially this season, but whole career wise Pep has been successful as manager almost five years more.then Kloop. More me Kloop Historically rn is just about 10th where as I still see Guardiola historically in the top five who knows he'll probably for me be just outside the top 5 or overtake Mourihno when he retires but as of right now he is outside of the top 10 only just.
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Dude, can you run for President of the US? That was the best analysis I've about anything in a long time. 100% honest, as objective as possible from an admitted fan. Facts. I find it amazing that some people think he not a good manager. Nobody manages the best players in the world as good as he does and always maintains a level of composure and class in victory AND defeat. If he stayed at Barcelona, he would have won at least 1 more CLs giving him the most.
Nah I disagree
video suggestion: 25 greatest managers of all time
Alexander lytle number 1, Fergie
Guardiola is like the kid who comes into the candy shop with rich parents
Thank you Alfie
Guardiola being a “chequebook manager” is one of the biggest myths in football.
Last time I checked Mourinho and Ancelotti have spent more than Guardiola and have been managing for longer, yet they’ve won fewer trophies.
“ThEy DiDnT HaVe MeSsI”
5:22 How was that a master stroke by pep? The reasons for Ronaldinho leaving are debated to be him turning up to training drunk and Ronaldinho wanting to leave. Also, imagine that Barca side with Ronaldinho and Messi becoming unplayable. I say Pep took the MessixXavixIniestaxRonaldinho partnerships away from us too soon
For 250k you should do a team or top 7 of your favourite players (not the best) but the ones you enjoy the most and have the most connection to
When the going gets tough, the stuffed get going, when the going gets rough, the stuffed get going
Make a video of every premier league club’s country with the most supporters outside of England
You forgot to mention specific players he's made from good to great. Thiago, Sterling, Busquets, etc...
when pep was in spain, spain national team was unstoppable, he went to germany and germany national team won world cup, then pep arrives at england and england team who harldy ever made progress in national competitions finished at semi's, coincidence i think not
Barcelona and Bayern were the basis of the last successful Spanish and German national teams, but Man City is barely involved with the English national team. So that one is a coincidence. And the first two had genius managers as well, in Vicente del Bosque and Joachim Löw.
It is also untrue that Pep buys the players at city. Txiki has all control over player recruitment
I think judging Pep's success looking into a perspective of not winning the champions league with Bayern is a bit harsh because to a certain extent his job was to continue to set the standard at the Bundesliga.
And at Manchester City his big money spending is due to the inflation in transfer fees
Lol bullshit
I think the main reason why people criticise him so much is because they're jelous
Should do one about the myths around Jose.
13:09 I think it’s robotic. Much prefer to watch Klopp’s teams, Bayern recently and Barca MSN before that…
Seven players who struggled at certain top club series, this series needs to come back.
There are a lot of ' worst players to play for...' Videos for every major premier league team but none for any major Seria A team.
7 most MOTM awards in the premier league era and where are they now
I dont completely agree with all your points but I do agree he's one of the elites in football management
Top 7 overhyped players
This one would be amazing
That’s pretty much just Liverpool’s 7 youngest players
Tom Breslin nah
By which criteria would you rank the players?
Eric Haland at top list
I hate the argument that he only manages great teams everyone thinks one day he’s going to decide to manage Fleetwood town
While I’m not blind to the fact that others truly believe Guardiola isn’t a good manager, I certainly think he is phenomenal. I also think your argument regarding his time at Barcelona in particular is very strong. However, I wish you would address the comparison between Guardiola and Klopp, because many people feel that Klopp is the best because he might be able to do a job like that of Chris Wilder and also bring a top team to the next level.
That he could perform the way he did at Mainz and also do the job he is currently carrying out at Liverpool is unique in my view.
As for the spending we have to say that during his Barca days money was less in the game, no criticism against the video
By not much he bought the likes of Sanchez, Ibrahimovic, and Villa for expensive fees.
Can you make a video on Zdenek Zeman
Wow. Thought 7 of Pep's most distant relatives who once had a palm reader tell them they'd be a famous footballer one day. Would be more appropriate.
Pep is the best "short-term" manager in the world, imo (admittedly, I'm a Liverpool fan). I don't see him as the type that will stay 10+ years at a club & become it's foundation (like Sir Alex, Wenger or, maybe (?), Klopp), but he's the perfect manager, if you're a high-end club, to bring in for 3-5 years & produce some amazing football & many trophies from high-class footballers. He's kinda like Mourinho in a sense, but the exact opposite style-wise. In any way, though, he's an amazing manager & one of the best of our times.
klopp? have u seen his last season at dortmund the burn out
@@UmarKhan-po6tn That was moreso because of all the players that Bayern poached from him (and there were injuries to guys like Reus & Gundogan that also helped wreck the season). Had that season actually gone even like the previous one had, I doubt Klopp would be at Liverpool right now, and my goodness, I'd love to see him with the squad Dortmund has right now.
@@UmarKhan-po6tn I don't think this will happen with Liverpool (though I'm biased), because I think he'll be more able to keep his best players & he won't have a truly awful season like 2014-15, so I could see him staying another 4-5 years & reaching a decade at Anfield.
Though again, I'm a little biased...
@@PhilipTheBigOne But he sold 11 players after he won the Bundesliga in 2012 and still reached the UCL final the next year
Is zidane better as a player or manager? Please make a video on this topic
Afcb first xi on final day of league two when we stayed up on the final day
I prefer a less idealistic more defensively sound style of football. This doesn’t mean Pep is bad, I think I’m just weird.
Football will be great again once the transfer market is more regulated. This oligopoly of big club domination has been killing the game since commercialization went into maniacal hyperdrive in the mid 90s.
My football manager save would say otherwise...
The biggest argument that Pep is a chequebook manager is pointing to the 16/17 season when you saw what he did without spending millions. He also ran away when Mourinho overhauled him in 2012 despite peak Messi. If he runs away to Juventus or PSG this summer after Klopp has gotten on top, it proves that he is a coward.
It has nothing to do with Mourinho. Pep Guardiola wanted to left Barcelona after the 10/11 Season but the board wanted him to stay. Guardiola wrote in his biography that was one of his biggest mistakes ever.
And Pep spent over 200 Million Euros in the 16/17 season, the second most expensive transfer period when he began to coach City until now.
In the 17/18 Season, where he won the league, he only spent 78 Million Euro.
@@mehmetakgoz6907 I am just stating some reasons why Pep could be seen as a chequebook manager, playing devils advocate.